The A24 Podcast
The A24 PodcastApr 19, 2023
Nervous Laughter with Ari Aster & Joaquin Phoenix
Topics covered include: struggling to take a compliment, the pressure of the clock, unorthodox techniques for playing a character in physical pain, worst days on set, resisting comfort, Ari’s snappy attitude, Joaquin fainting mid-take with Patti Lupone, the experience of brutal humiliation, old school SFX makeup tricks, crying in front of the crew while filming Midsommar, doing weird shit in attics, and getting each other through moments when you don’t know what the f-ck to do.
If You Build It They Will Come with Brendan Fraser & Michelle Yeoh
Topics covered include: the magic of practical effects, living out of a suitcase, calculated risks, mapping the multiverse on a blackboard, Everything Everywhere and The Whale’s themes of forgiveness, films that open hearts, fighting to be original, total collaboration, lessons from Brendan’s favorite movie of all time Ratatouille, moving a literal mountain in China to get the perfect shot for The Mummy 3, working with Jet Li’s fight crew, pain as a smoke alarm, leaving stunt work to the professionals, awards season as a full-time job, giving the people what they want, going towards the danger, hyper-critical Chinese moms, the buoyant enthusiasm of the EEAAO cast, plus a brief cameo from Brendan’s dog PeeWee.
Great Joys with Ramy Youssef & Mahershala Ali
Topics covered include: Mecca, the art of walking a fine line, Ramy’s inner Arab negotiator, hot-button issues, mercy, relatable characters in unrelatable worlds, miracles of filmmaking, how Ramy beat Mahershala at one-on-one basketball, fractured attention, pimple management, comfort zones, Mahershala’s dream of directing, the urgency of the daily lunch order on set, killing vampires in Atlanta, and the Sheikh-Ramy fight scene we need to see in Season 4.
Strange Adolescence with Sadie Sink & Finn Wolfhard
Make It Come Alive with Isabella Rossellini & Willem Dafoe
Off To The Races with Daniel Kwan, Daniel Scheinert, and Daniel Radcliffe
Topics covered include: The Cheesecake Factory’s experimental tasting kitchen, navigating the technical logistics of the Butt Plug Fight Scene, child stunt doubles, Everything Everywhere as the greatest case for optimism, fantasies of bringing Swiss Army Man 2 to Broadway, Kwan’s mom’s meatballs, overblown headlines, Radcliffe’s karaoke track of choice (“The Real Slim Shady”), the Equus poster in his parents' bathroom, growing up on set of Harry Potter surrounded by legends, hating school but loving learning, hyper-specific personal email addresses, the influence of anime, the history of birds being witnesses in murder trials, and nominal predestination.
Light On My Feet with Jenny Slate & Nick Kroll
Topics covered include: being cavity-prone, Joe Rogan’s effect on the podcast industry, the distinction between porn and pornos, turbo output, cheaper vanities, nostalgia for Netflix’s DVD subscription model, experiencing a viral hit in 2010, licensing a song from the most litigious band in history (The Eagles) for Marcel the Shell, levels of emergency, living true beauty, parenthood, aging, and the potential for a PubLIZity reboot where Liz G. has fillers.
Fine Ingredients with Kogonada & Michelle Zauner
Topics covered include: Pocky versus Pepero, Kogonada buying Crying In H Mart for everyone he knows, the aesthetics of Ozu, the burden of representation, climbing the corporate ladder, knowing when to walk away, the nourishing process of making After Yang, Wong Kar-Wai and Agnes Varda’s influence, poeticizing kitchen sink reality, choosing joy, surrogate families, Colin Farrell's innate humanity, and 'belonging' as another way of ‘longing to be.’
How Do You Know My Name with Simon Rex and Angus Cloud
Topics covered include: escaping to Joshua Tree, the heartbreaking experience of being an Oakland sports fan, pre-Giuliani New York lawlessness, running a small business in Fort Greene Park, whether your DNA is safe with 23andMe, Internet bullshit, fake energy, losing friends to COVID conspiracies, the transactional nature of Los Angeles, Angus’s favorite movie (Holes), the judgment of vegans, shooting on deadstock Kodak film for Euphoria S2, parallels between Fezco and Mikey Saber, getting thrown into the deep end, and how to cope with being famous when you’re just a normal dude from The Bay.
Divine Frequency with Hunter Schafer & Lorde
Topics covered include: exquisite faces, rich inner worlds, being a Prada girl, dressing like a magician, nostalgia for Rookie magazine, the Jules special episode of Euphoria as trans girl canon, astrological turbulence, Scorpio eyes, metabolizing your emotions through art, peacing out on popular culture, the music of Arca and Sophie, Lorde being a First Reformed stan, and tracking orcas in Antarctica.
True Form with Paul Mescal & Honor Swinton Byrne
Topics covered include: the thrill and terror of acting without a script, the meta nature of The Souvenir movies, Joanna Hogg as genius puppet master, the return of real film, Paul’s “chill and kind” rugby-playing brother, Irish gatekeeping, drama school memories, slowly developing a bad back, being patient with yourself, getting off social media, the courage to be disliked, and Tilda's fish pie.
This Odd Situation with Mike Mills & David Byrne
Topics covered include: the world of childhood, collaborators as playmates, blasting Remain in Light on loop, Mike’s innate desire to give everyone a hug, being allergic to bullshit, the Wim Wenders Easter eggs in C’mon C’mon, black and white movies as their own species, bingeing Hitchcock movies during the pandemic, David being a little dictator on the set of Stop Making Sense, putting ‘fringe’ into a different context, the pretentiousness of thinking that being a graphic designer would be radical, and finding new ways to enchant yourself, again and again.
Practical Magic with David Lowery & Elijah Wood
Topics covered include: the importance of letting your movie breath, hate-cutting The Green Knight, the fall of Troy, Grail mythology, a mom’s helpful nudge, old-fashioned movie magic, the epic oner from Eternal Sunshine, concentric circles of production and release, vegan animatronic boar entrails, New Zealand film crews (the best), mainlining horror movies in October, and why genre is the perfect playground for emerging filmmakers.
Stories We Tell with Lee Isaac Chung & Viet Thanh Nguyen
Topics covered include: career trajectories, seeing yourself through your children’s eyes, the traveling circus energy of a film set, paying to play, knowing failure, making art for yourself, the impact of the Hollywood stereotypes we grow up with, American hang-ups about the Vietnam War, the legendary Park Chan-wook, whether Isaac would make a Marvel movie, the artistry of Minari, and why every immigrant story should be considered an epic.
The Rest Is History with Kelly Reichardt & Kenneth Lonergan
All The Ways To Be with Bryan Washington & Ocean Vuong
Topics covered include: the purity of poetry, radical okay-ness, the alternate version of Ocean’s life as a straight man, why love wasn't a question in Memorial, the power of saying no, learning to choose yourself, the exoticism of suburbia, the upside of being small, letting another artist expand upon your vision through adaptation, and why being a writer is less a career than a miracle.
This Is Getting Good with Tim Heidecker, John C. Reilly, Fred Armisen & Jonathan Krisel
Animal Instincts with Nathan Fielder & Alexa Demie
Topics covered include: embracing your animal essence, what high school is really like, the Euphoria chili scene, learning cinematography from reality TV, the secret to acting like Nathan, fairy portals, approaches to cat parenting, the kindness of strangers, and crying so hard you laugh.
Everything Is Available with Nicholas Braun & Nicholas Britell
Topics covered include: performance anxiety, living in the body of a character, the annual Gathering of the Juggalos, how Cousin Greg got his rich vocabulary, Britell’s early gigs writing telephone hold music, getting out of your own head, and why you should just keep going when it feels good.
It Only Matters To Me with Janicza Bravo & Joi McMillon
Topics covered include: finding your creative collaborators, strip club breakfast buffets, editing as the final draft of a script, the Sundance party scene, why bad notes are better than no notes, meaningful nudity on screen, getting paid the least for doing the most, and what it’s like making a naughty movie when you’re a prude.
Seduce And Destroy with Josh Safdie, Benny Safdie & Paul Thomas Anderson
BONUS: Ari Aster & Robert Eggers Extended Conversation
Bergman Mission Accomplished. Here's the extended version of last week’s Deep Cuts with Ari Aster & Robert Eggers.
ROB & ARI'S WATCH LIST (in order of appearance)
The Servant (1963) dir. Joseph Losey
The Sacrifice (1986) dir. Andrei Tarkovsky
Cries and Whispers (1972) dir. Ingmar Bergman
Autumn Sonata (1978) dir. Ingmar Bergman
Persona (1966) dir. Ingmar Bergman
The Master (2012) dir. Paul Thomas Anderson
The Virgin Spring (1960) dir. Ingmar Bergman
Shame (1968) dir. Ingmar Bergman
Winter Light (1963) dir. Ingmar Bergman
Fanny and Alexander (1982) dir. Ingmar Bergman
Scenes from a Marriage (1973) dir. Ingmar Bergman
Smiles of a Summer Night (1955) dir. Ingmar Bergman
Andrei Rublev (1973) dir. Andrei Tarkovsky
Through a Glass Darkly (1961) dir. Ingmar Bergman
Ivan’s Childhood (1963) dir. Andrei Tarkovsky
Hour of the Wolf (1968) dir. Ingmar Bergman
From the Life of the Marionettes (1981) dir. Ingmar Bergman
Carrie (1976) dir. Brian De Palma
The Cook, the Thief, His Wife & Her Lover (1989) dir. Peter Greenaway
The Snowman (1982) dir. Dianne Jackson, Jimmy T. Murakami
Blue Velvet (1986) dir. David Lynch
A Clockwork Orange (1971) dir. Stanley Kubrick
Mary Poppins (1964) dir. Robert Stevenson
Conan the Barbarian (1982) dir. John Milius
Legend (1986) dir. Ridley Scott
Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope (1977) dir. George Lucas
Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981) dir. Steven Spielberg
Nosferatu (1922) dir. F.W. Murnau
The Bostonians (1984) dir. James Ivory
Maurice (1987) dir. James Ivory
The Seventh Seal (1957) dir. Ingmar Bergman
Lost Highway (1997) dir. David Lynch
The Dark Knight (2008) dir. Christopher Nolan
A Life in Suitcases (2005) dir. Peter Greenaway
The Falls (1980) dir. Peter Greenaway
Sawdust and Tinsel (1953) dir. Ingmar Bergman
The Silence (1963) dir. Ingmar Bergman
Seventh Samurai (1954) dir. Akira Kurosawa
Last Year at Marienbad (1963) dir. Alain Resnais
Deep Cuts with Ari Aster & Robert Eggers
Topics covered include: chasing the Bergman closeup, preferred aspect ratios, why Hereditary is unabashedly a horror movie, talking to press while intoxicated, the “trick” of Midsommar, the scene from Carrie that still gives Ari nightmares, dealing with the consequences of an A24 marketing stunt you did not consent to, the silver lining on a ‘D’ Cinemascore, why films are meant to be watched more than once, and the magic of being in dialogue with other filmmakers across history—and becoming more yourself in the process.
All In The Family with Ramy Youssef & Awkwafina
Topics covered include: lies we tell our families, the gift of cold hard cash, visiting Disney as an adult, pet monkeys (dream versus reality), Murakami, the Malcolm X watch, LA car culture, universality through specificity, connecting the dots, and the longing to know the places our parents' parents once called home.
A Bigger Canvas with Martin Scorsese & Joanna Hogg
Topics covered include: Bob Fosse's influence, the magic of Singing In The Rain (1952), strategies for evading journalists' questions, sequels that aren't really sequels, the CGI challenge of youthifying De Niro, Pesci, and Pacino in The Irishman, and the piece of advice from Arthur Penn that Marty will never forget: “Don't lose that amateur status.”
Shooting Stars with Rian Johnson & Claire Denis
Topics covered include: shooting a prison movie in space, the dark romance of L.A., good bread, why Claire went crazy working for Wim Wenders, films that must be viewed in the dark, shooting with yellow light, the romanticization of film stock, Tarkovsky’s Stalker, and the alchemy of cinema.
Don't Be A Stranger with Jonah Hill & Michael Cera
Topics covered include: the surreal experience of overnight fame, Spanish movie marketing, establishing boundaries, theater people, drinking beers with Elaine May, Jonah's fear of winged animals, on-demand pushups, degenerate gambling, and why everyone should own a digital copy of Mid90s.
Sound On with Daniel Lopatin & Mica Levi
Topics covered include: the process of scoring a film, growing up in a house filled with music, cinematic rhythm, cheesy scores, creating the sounds of an urban nightmare, and why electronic music is the best game ever.
Acting Your Age with Elsie Fisher & Molly Ringwald
Topics covered include: the highs and lows of being a young actor, Elsie’s audition for Eighth Grade, Bo Burnham’s Vine career (RIP), why social media should have stopped at Myspace, the impossibility of not saying “Um” and “Like,” Dungeons & Dragons, the Golden State Killer, coming-of-age on screen, and why we never stop craving connection—regardless of age.
The More You Know with Fred Armisen & Jason Schwartzman
Topics covered include: the nuances of American Sign Language, Icelandic stand-up comedy, fairies, trolls, superhuman athleticism, archaic medical treatments, and what Fred would do if he could travel back in time without altering history.
Catch And Release with Ethan Hawke & Alia Shawkat
Topics covered include: their new film Blaze, summers in Nova Scotia, art that tells the truth, the beauty of beginner’s mind, Alia’s painting, career advice from Steve McQueen, and the importance of giving it all away.
This Is How It Should End with Paul Schrader & Sofia Coppola
Topics covered include: Paul's unexpected career trajectory, ambiguous endings, stealing from the best, the challenges of writing without "nighttime additives," and what it took for Paul to finally make First Reformed—the movie he’s been waiting his whole life to make.
True Obsession with John Early & Toni Collette
Topics covered include: Toni Collette, Toni Collette, and falling in love with Toni Collette at age 10 after renting Clockwatchers from a Nashville Blockbuster.
High Anxiety with Jerrod Carmichael & Bo Burnham
Topics covered include: the internet, teenagers today, how to talk about a moment that is already a parody of itself, the FKA Twigs/Anderson .Paak/Spike Jonze Apple ad, whether or not Deadpool gets it, why Jerrod hasn’t seen Bottle Rocket, the filmmaking of Steve McQueen, Jerrod and Bo’s dispositional differences, Snoop Dogg’s new gospel album, the performance of an interview, and the value of not being present.
All the Way Home with Barry Jenkins & Greta Gerwig
Topics covered include: Elena Ferrante, medieval triptychs, things that make Greta uncomfortable as a viewer, shooting through fog machines, the skirts of Isadora Duncan, fast-talking ladies, Grey Gardens, the possibility of a giant bad mess, budgetary constraints, Sacramento, the special birthday plate, and the YMCA aerobics class on 14th Street where Greta discovered her calling.