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Alan and Brent talk about Modern Testing (which isn't all that modern, and not really about testing - except when it is). Every other week or so, A&B tell stories and discuss what's happening in the world of software - including a variety of topics like Agile, Lean, Delivery, DevOps, Data Science, Experimentation, Leadership, and more. Intro / Outro music on the AB Testing podcast is The One by Rivet. License: CC BY Intro / Outro music on ABT343 is from https://filmmusic.io “Werq” by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com) License: CC BY (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/)
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AB Testing – Episode 79: The Modern Tester Goes to Testbash

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Episode 182: Brian Pulliam and StrengthsFinders

Episode 182: Brian Pulliam and StrengthsFinders

We are joined by Brian Pulliam, and we go waaaay deep into StrenthgsFinders. It was fascinating and fun, and a ton of fun. Brian's website is https://refactorcoaching.com/, and you can find more about StrengthsFinders at https://www.gallup.com/cliftonstrengths/en/strengthsfinder.aspx

Jun 05, 202350:13
Episode 181: The AI Testing Podcast

Episode 181: The AI Testing Podcast

We talk a lot (again) about AI. Just like Agile was a disruptor when we began the podcast AI is a disruptor that you can ignore at your own peril, or embrace and ride the wave. There's some other good stuff here as well.

May 22, 202336:39
Episode 180: Brent is Mary Poppins

Episode 180: Brent is Mary Poppins

Apologies for the delay - anchor failed us for the first time (or maybe the problem was pbkac) - but posting 12 hours late regardless.


We spend a little time talking about our previous guest (chat gpt), whether AI is taking our jobs away, return to office, windows phone, and /finally/ a bit (abstractly) about Alan's new gig.

May 09, 202343:26
Episode 179: An Interview with Chat GPT

Episode 179: An Interview with Chat GPT

We talk almost entirely about AI, with the bulk of the time "interviewing" chat GPT about the modern testing principles. Lots of fun, and lots of fodder for future podcasts.

Apr 24, 202342:16
Episode 178: Testing vs Quality

Episode 178: Testing vs Quality

Beware - there are tangents and rambling. But - if you like listening to us talk about stuff in our lives, and eventually whether the emphasis should be on great testing or great quality, it should be fun.

Apr 10, 202335:36
Episode 177: How Alan quit his job

Episode 177: How Alan quit his job

We start with our (now) regular discussion of AI, and then talk about the deets of Alan leaving his job at Unity (and then more about AI)

Apr 03, 202341:03
Episode 176: AI, Migrations, and more Chat GPT

Episode 176: AI, Migrations, and more Chat GPT

It's a pretty rambly episode, but we talk more about AI and chat gpt (sorry), touch on a mailbag question about migrations, and hit a few dozen other subjects on the way. Hold on tight.

Mar 06, 202351:47
Episode 175: We're Doomed

Episode 175: We're Doomed

Brent puts on his tinfoil hat and talks about how tech and AI are going to doom us all.

Feb 13, 202343:58
Episode 174: Healing the wounds of layoffs

Episode 174: Healing the wounds of layoffs

We talk quite a bit about the layoff situation in text - and then tell some stories about "the old days" at microsoft.

Jan 30, 202342:31
Episode 173: The Mindful Dev w/ Dagna Bieda

Episode 173: The Mindful Dev w/ Dagna Bieda

We are joined by Dagna Bieda from https://www.themindfuldev.com to talk about coaching, burnout, and growth as a software engineer.

Jan 23, 202349:43
Episode 172: Dedicated Testers are a heuristic for slow feedback loops

Episode 172: Dedicated Testers are a heuristic for slow feedback loops

We spend the whole episode talking about the reactions to Alan's post describing why most software teams don't need dedicated testers. Bring the Hate!

Jan 09, 202349:12
Episode 171: 2022 Recap and Look Forward into 2023

Episode 171: 2022 Recap and Look Forward into 2023

It's our last podcast of 2022, so we look back on the year, talk about our 2022 predictions, and look forward into 2023. And we once again, talk quite a bit about chatgpt.

Dec 19, 202250:14
Episode 170: AB Testing meets ChatGPT

Episode 170: AB Testing meets ChatGPT

We try not to talk about https://chat.openai.com/chat the entire episode, but we mostly fail. 

Dec 12, 202240:22
Episode 169: Zencaster Holds a Grudge

Episode 169: Zencaster Holds a Grudge

We mostly talk about prioritization, but as usual, it's impossible for us to stick to a single topic.

Oct 31, 202241:28
Episode 168: Bubbles and Blowhards

Episode 168: Bubbles and Blowhards

We talk a bit about the bubbles we're in and the bubble's we're not in. And then finally, we talk about how people can move into experimentation and Modern Testing.

Oct 17, 202249:07
Episode 167: Oh my god! Get to the point!

Episode 167: Oh my god! Get to the point!

We record an entire podcast without getting to the point - or maybe we just created a lot of points. We talk about podcasting, how we learn, and async work - and about 30 other things.

Oct 03, 202256:13
Episode 166: The Modern Modern Testing Podcast

Episode 166: The Modern Modern Testing Podcast

We chat a bit about filling offices, then a lot about A/B testing, and share a few stories along the way.

Sep 15, 202234:09
Episode 165: It IS Modern, and it IS about Testing

Episode 165: It IS Modern, and it IS about Testing

After a very brief political discussion (apologies), we talk about what we'd do as testers today, and along the way, accidentally reinvent Modern Testing.

Aug 15, 202248:19
Episode 164: Matt LeRay from Speedscale

Episode 164: Matt LeRay from Speedscale

We are joined by Matt from Speedscale. We talk a little about his company, but talk a lot about everything else.

Important links

https://www.speedscale.com Speedscale on twitter - https://twitter.com/Speedscaleai Matt on twitter - https://twitter.com/matthewleray
Aug 01, 202249:31
Episode 163: Layoffs

Episode 163: Layoffs

Interspersed with a ridiculous number of tangents, we talk about layoffs.

Jul 18, 202252:35
Episode 162: Hanging out with Kirk Marple

Episode 162: Hanging out with Kirk Marple

We are joined by Kirk Marple, CEO of Unstruk. We talk about data mostly, but also baseball (which is also data) - and share a few microsoft stories.

Jul 05, 202201:06:09
Episode 161: msft stuff, and the state of modern testing

Episode 161: msft stuff, and the state of modern testing

We talk about a lot of stuff - including posting salary ranges for jobs, SDETs making devs cry, and the pesky Principle 7

Jun 20, 202253:35
Episode 160: The Modern Testing Podcast: featuring Bert Jernsen

Episode 160: The Modern Testing Podcast: featuring Bert Jernsen

We talk about...a lot of things. From testing podcasts to A/B (with the slash) testing to the idea of Internal Developer Relations. It's a lot, so apologies in advance.

Jun 06, 202251:12
Episode 159: Darko Fabijan from Semaphore

Episode 159: Darko Fabijan from Semaphore

We have Darko from Semaphore - that's the good news. The bad news is that we lost the last 5-ish minutes of the podcast due to me not planning ahead. We will work with Darko to crash an episode of his podcast in the near future and complete the conversation.

May 02, 202241:00
Episode 158: Finding the Sweet Spot with Goal Setting

Episode 158: Finding the Sweet Spot with Goal Setting

We talk about setting goals...or commitments...or /PLANS/ for our team members.

Apr 11, 202253:33
Episode 157: Kanban - and then it gets boring...

Episode 157: Kanban - and then it gets boring...

We play the kanban game - but stop, because playing the kanban game (kanbanboardgame.com) on a podcast is super boring. So then we just gave up and started talking and wound up being even more boring. Enjoy!

Mar 27, 202245:26
Episode 156: Customers and Quality

Episode 156: Customers and Quality

We talk a lot about Modern Testing Principle number 5 - the one that says only customers can evaluate quality, and why - despite controversy, we believe it is true. We also discuss whether or not Deming would be a fan of the principles.

Mar 14, 202244:02
Episode 155: Quality Coaching with Anne-Marie Charrett

Episode 155: Quality Coaching with Anne-Marie Charrett

We are honored to have Anne-Marie Charrett join us this week to talk about quality coaching. 

Anne-Marie currently works at CultureAmp where she puts quality coaching into practice. You can find her on twitter (@charrett), and on her website. Her ongoing book on quality coaching is available here, with fresh installments monthly.

Feb 22, 202258:44
Episode 154: The Complete Software Tester w/ Kristin Jackvony

Episode 154: The Complete Software Tester w/ Kristin Jackvony

Kristin Jackvony - author of The Complete Software Tester - (https://www.amazon.com/Complete-Software-Tester-Strategies-High-Quality-ebook/dp/B09NGVVCJ9) joins us for a wonderful discussion on testing, testers, and the value of a music education. 

Feb 07, 202256:01
Episode 153: Quality Coaching with Henry Golding
Jan 24, 202201:03:09
Episode 152: AAB Testing with Al Shalloway

Episode 152: AAB Testing with Al Shalloway

We are joined by Al Shalloway. We talk about Agile mostly, but we finally get to talk about SAFE. You can contact Al at al.shalloway at successengineering dot works

Jan 10, 202258:34
Episode 151: Past, Future, and Covid

Episode 151: Past, Future, and Covid

It's our last episode of 2021, so we take some time to reflect on the last year, look forward into the next year.

Dec 13, 202151:31
Episode 150: Ramble On

Episode 150: Ramble On

It's our 150th episide. With absolutely zero celebration or anything else special, we ramble our way through discussions on Customer-Centric Monitoring, Alan's 3 biggest accomplishments in 2021, and our favorite video games.

Nov 15, 202147:02
Episode 149: Perks and Tips

Episode 149: Perks and Tips

We talk a little about work place perks (for reasons unknown), and then talk more about the new fun challenges with Alan's new org.

Oct 25, 202146:25
Episode 148: Us, Them, and the (new?) MT Principles

Episode 148: Us, Them, and the (new?) MT Principles

Eventually, we talk about how we could gear the Modern Testing Principles more towards development teams.

Oct 11, 202145:49
Episode 147: Coaching...and stuff

Episode 147: Coaching...and stuff

We attempt to talk about coaching and quality coaching...and we do - mostly.

Sep 13, 202151:35
Episode 146: The answer is always data

Episode 146: The answer is always data

We chat a bit about the rise (?) of Modern Testing practices in the industry, and then look at a few TestSphere cards - and eventually end up talking a whole lot about data.

Aug 23, 202154:11
Episode 145: Diversity, Safety, and Brent's grody stories

Episode 145: Diversity, Safety, and Brent's grody stories

We kick off the episode with 5 painful minutes of discussion on Brent's hernia surgery before making it into a discussion on fairness, diversity, psychological safety, and other stuff. And we talk about a lot of books.

Aug 09, 202148:01
Episode 144: Days of Future Past

Episode 144: Days of Future Past

We talk a bit about Alan's recent AMA on the future of test automation and then about his past with Microsoft Teams.

Jul 26, 202151:41
Episode 143: Questions from Larry

Episode 143: Questions from Larry

We dive (wade? splash??) into some listener questions on Theory of Constraints applied to different aspects of software development and Modern Testing.

Jul 12, 202144:10
Episode 142: Wild Ideas with Reflect

Episode 142: Wild Ideas with Reflect

We're joined by Nick and Todd from https://reflect.run to talk about the future of test automation (sort of) and developers creating UI automation. We loved having these folks on the show, and hope you enjoy the conversation.

Jun 14, 202149:26
Episode 141: Dichotomies and Tautologies

Episode 141: Dichotomies and Tautologies

In this episode, we discuss deep vs. shallow testing, choosing what to automate, and the future of testing roles (sort of).

The link we discuss is https://www.onetonline.org/link/summary/15-1253.00

May 31, 202151:35
Episode 140: AB DevOps

Episode 140: AB DevOps

We discuss Alan's experiences at TestingFestival, talk a bit about DevOps and answer (sort of) a mailbag question on BDD

May 17, 202146:44
Episode 139: The Genius of Tangents

Episode 139: The Genius of Tangents

We talk more about Lencioni's working genius model, and attempt to attach it to a mailbag question about how projects get done in a modern testing world.

May 10, 202152:52
Episode 138: So you want to "get into automation"

Episode 138: So you want to "get into automation"

We discuss one of the age-old questions of software testing. How does a "manaual tester" 'get into' automation. 

Apr 26, 202148:14
Episode 137: Personality Types
Apr 05, 202150:55
Episode 136: Learning stuff, and why testing isn't quality
Mar 22, 202147:08
Episode 135: Record, Playback, and Personality

Episode 135: Record, Playback, and Personality

We talk a bit about personality types (more on this in 136), touch on some thoughts on record & playback automation, and a few other tangential topics.

Books mentioned on this podcast include:

Accelerate (Forsgren et al) Radical Candor (Scott) Where Good Ideas come from (Johnson) How to Measure Anything (Hubbard) Lean Startup (Ries) The Leaders Guide to Radical Management (Denning) Drive (Pink)

One more for the bookshelf that we didn't call out is Principles of Product Development Flow (Reinertsen)

Mar 08, 202149:21
Episode 134: Easier, Faster, Safer
Feb 22, 202149:19
Episode 133: Test Ownership and Test Automation

Episode 133: Test Ownership and Test Automation

We reflect a bit on Alan's recent article (inspired by episode 132), and then talk quite a bit about the correlation of test automation ownership and quality. We hope you enjoy the show.

Feb 01, 202148:35
AB Testing - Episode 132: Mindsets and Metrics

AB Testing - Episode 132: Mindsets and Metrics

It's our first episode of 2021 - where we talk (a little) about the US political situation, then discuss mindsets and skillsets - and then wrap things up with a discussion on estimation metrics.

Jan 11, 202152:43
AB Testing – Episode 131: The 2020 Year End Extravaganza

AB Testing – Episode 131: The 2020 Year End Extravaganza

This is our last recording of 2020, so we reflect a little on 2020 and look forward to 2021.
Dec 07, 202047:08
AB Testing – Episode 130: The Pre-Election Episode

AB Testing – Episode 130: The Pre-Election Episode

We talk a bit about the upcoming U.S. Election, discuss ideal team size, and then workshop some ideas on what “advanced” training for Modern Testing may look like.
Nov 02, 202052:39
AB Testing – Episode 129: Alan’s Journey to Modern Testing

AB Testing – Episode 129: Alan’s Journey to Modern Testing

This time it’s the story of Alan – from music teacher to bicycle messenger to modern testing (and just a few steps in between). It’s another view into the origins of modern testing.
Oct 19, 202050:55
AB Testing – Episode 128: Brent’s Path to Modern Testing

AB Testing – Episode 128: Brent’s Path to Modern Testing

It’s origin story time. We talk about the early days of Brent’s testing career and how he found his way into the thing we now call Modern Testing.
Sep 21, 202052:15
AB Testing – Episode 127:  Brent’s Hand & Alan’s Org

AB Testing – Episode 127: Brent’s Hand & Alan’s Org

Apologies for the audio issues – Brent was having technical challenges. We cover stuff related to Alan’s growing team (and responsibilities) at Unity – plus the usual assortment of tangents.
Sep 08, 202054:04
AB Testing – Episode 126: Azure Powered

AB Testing – Episode 126: Azure Powered

We talk about what’s going on with Alan’s expanded role at Unity and answer (sort of) a mailbag question about bottlenecks in delivering mobile apps.
Aug 17, 202054:55
ABT 343 – Andreas Worm

ABT 343 – Andreas Worm

This time, Andreas Worm – aka @globalworming in our Slack group joins me for conversations, mostly about his experiences with scrum.
Aug 10, 202024:22
ABT 343 – Danny Faught

ABT 343 – Danny Faught

My guest for the ABT 343 is Danny Faught. We talk about his move out of being a dedicated tester, and well as the biography he’s putting together. Find Danny on twitter and read his blog.
Aug 03, 202032:07
AB Testing – Episode 125: P* Management and ATAOSQ
Jul 27, 202048:39
AB Testing – Episode 124: Learning with Maaret

AB Testing – Episode 124: Learning with Maaret

Brent and Alan are joined by Maaret Pyhäjärvi, who talks with us about her role, the role of testing in general, mob programming, and a whole lot of other topics. I hope this was the beginning of a longer conversation, and we hope to have Maaret as a guest again soon. Maaret’s blogMaaret’s book on […]
Jul 13, 202051:31
AB Testing – Episode 123: Sue Loh’s Evil Plan to Save the World

AB Testing – Episode 123: Sue Loh’s Evil Plan to Save the World

Sue Loh (@suedeyloh on twitter). Sue has a lengthy history of finding and fixing nasty performance issues across a lot of different operating systems at Microsoft, but we spend most of our time talking about her Evil Plan To Save The World Get a copy of Sue’s excellent book, Raven, today
Jun 29, 202044:43
AB Testing – Episode 122: Julian Bucknall and TestCafe

AB Testing – Episode 122: Julian Bucknall and TestCafe

We are joined by the CTO of Devexpress to talk about TestCafe.
Jun 08, 202053:30
AB Testing – Episode 121: Peter Senge is Old

AB Testing – Episode 121: Peter Senge is Old

We talk a bit about Covid (again), touch on a few random subjects, and then find time to answer a few mailbag questions. We also now have an AB Testing Podcast instagram.
May 18, 202050:53
AB Testing – Episode 120: David Bishop on Metagility
May 04, 202049:34
ABT 343 – Melissa Eaden
Apr 23, 202032:41
AB Testing – Episode 119: Retrospectives

AB Testing – Episode 119: Retrospectives

We, of course, talk about working through Covid-19, but we spend most of our time talking about retrospectives.
Apr 20, 202047:11
ABT 343 – Yuliya Bagriy (aviskase)

ABT 343 – Yuliya Bagriy (aviskase)

Yuliya Bagriy (known across the internet as aviskase) is my guest this time. We talk about her path into testing, a bit about her new role, and the origin of the alias, ‘aviskase’ – which includes a tangent on how she broke Postman.
Apr 09, 202032:20
AB Testing – Episode 118: Covid continues; and Velocity

AB Testing – Episode 118: Covid continues; and Velocity

We talk about Covid (because every meeting does these days). And we also (sort of?) talk about velocity.
Apr 06, 202053:55
ABT 343 – Chris Kenst
Mar 31, 202040:47
ABT 343 – Melissa Pohlman

ABT 343 – Melissa Pohlman

343 is back with Melissa Pohlman, who has thoughts for testers, advice for managers, and stories about a whole lot more.
Mar 23, 202030:18
AB Testing – Episode 117: The Covid-19 WFH Show

AB Testing – Episode 117: The Covid-19 WFH Show

We talk quite a bit about working from home, and a bit about test coaching / consulting in the Modern Testing world. We hope everyone is staying healthy and sane out there.
Mar 17, 202053:19
AB Testing – Episode 116: What’s the Deal with ISTQB?

AB Testing – Episode 116: What’s the Deal with ISTQB?

We have an in-depth discussion on the recently published Vision on the Future of Software Testing from ISTQB
Mar 02, 202051:21
AB Testing – Episode 115: Gates and Balmer and Satya (oh my)

AB Testing – Episode 115: Gates and Balmer and Satya (oh my)

This time, we reflect on the Gates, Balmer, and Satya eras at Microsoft.
Feb 17, 202044:29
ABT 343 – Conor Fitzgerald: The Sequel
Jan 22, 202027:51
AB Testing – Episode 114: Random Reflections and Reading

AB Testing – Episode 114: Random Reflections and Reading

Happy New Year! This week, we react to a 15 -year-old paper, and then somehow segue into talking about a few other papers. Papers mentioned: The Ongoing Revolution in Software Testing By Cem Kaner State of DevOps 2019 An Analysis of the Effect of Code Ownership on Software Quality across Windows, Eclipse, and Firefox by Nachi Nagappan
Jan 14, 202059:05
ABT 343 – Conor Fitzgerald

ABT 343 – Conor Fitzgerald

In this 343, Conor Fitzgerald and I talk about his experiences in testing, his experiences in Modern Testing, and a whole lot more. More info: Follow Conor on twitter: @conorfi Read his blog Also worth linking is Elisabeth Hendrickson’s Explore It!
Jan 06, 202035:26
ABT 343 – Perze Ababa

ABT 343 – Perze Ababa

In this 343, I’m joined by one of the long-time listeners and supporters of the AB Testing Podcast, the one and only, Perze Ababa. We talk (mostly) about leading a quality culture, but as you’d expect, we take a few tangents along the way. Perze is @perze on twitter – follow him!
Dec 29, 201942:16
AB Testing – Episode 113: The 2019 Year End Extravaganza

AB Testing – Episode 113: The 2019 Year End Extravaganza

We reflect on our December 2018 predictions, look back on the wonderful year of 2019, and talk a bit about what we expect in 2020. Happy Holidays from the two of us to the three of you.
Dec 17, 201954:30
AB Testing – Episode 112: The Penultimate Potpourri

AB Testing – Episode 112: The Penultimate Potpourri

Lots of topics this time, including CI/CD, UI automation, and ABT ulterior motives. Notes (more to be added later): Rockstar language Advent of Code
Dec 11, 201944:47
ABT 343 – Maciej Wyrodek

ABT 343 – Maciej Wyrodek

Maciej Wyrodek joins the 343 podcast to talk about his experiences with modern testing, The Unicorn Project, and various rants about the state of software testing. Follow Maciej On twitter – @maciejwyrodek His blog – The Broken Test Also mentioned: The Modern Testing Principles mindmap Polish article on the state of testing
Dec 02, 201928:02
ABT 343 – Areti Panou

ABT 343 – Areti Panou

I am joined this time by Areti Panou. Listen in to hear more about her changing role, and her experience with modern testing. Areti’s blog is unremarkabletester.com, and you can folllow her on twitter – @unremarkableqa
Nov 25, 201928:13
AB Testing – Episode 111: Oredev, DevOps, and Stuff

AB Testing – Episode 111: Oredev, DevOps, and Stuff

We talk a bit about Oredev, some more about devops, controversies in the principles, and a bit more about Alan’s role at Unity.
Nov 18, 201954:59
ABT 343 – Dave Westveld
Nov 13, 201931:29
ABT 343 – Andrew Morton

ABT 343 – Andrew Morton

Our first real episode is a quick chat with Andrew Morton. Andrew is the Dev Boss at Ministry of Testing, and can be found at @testingchef on Twitter
Oct 31, 201918:48
AB Testing – Episode 110: PM, PM, and MT

AB Testing – Episode 110: PM, PM, and MT

We spend most of this podcast trying to understand each other while we wind through conversations on Product Management, Project Management, Program Management and how they all fit into quality.
Oct 29, 201952:43
AB Testing – Episode 109: The MT Guide to Promotions

AB Testing – Episode 109: The MT Guide to Promotions

Some discussion (and rants) on career maps (aka career ladders, levels, etc.) – and our experiences in how to make these fail spectacularly (and sometimes work).
Oct 15, 201951:35
AB Testing – Episode 108: Lack of Testers vs. Lack of Testing

AB Testing – Episode 108: Lack of Testers vs. Lack of Testing

it’s a mailbag show, where we talk about whether or not bugs in Windows 10 are due to a lack of a test team, and how you can apply MT principles if you’re a consultant asked to write automation. Once again, the audio isn’t awesome, but quality debugging continues.
Oct 01, 201955:29
AB Testing – Episode 107: A Plethora of Principles

AB Testing – Episode 107: A Plethora of Principles

Good news: We have a new episode!Bad News: I am doomed to never having another podcast without audio issues. My mic cable must have been lying across the speakerphone in the conference room, as it was picking up a massive amount of static. I was able to remove the static (you’ll thank me), but removing […]
Sep 16, 201947:37
AB Testing – Episode 106: Weapons of Math Destruction

AB Testing – Episode 106: Weapons of Math Destruction

Steve Rowe is back (for the third time!) on AB Testing to take part in a discussion on ethics in data science. Hope you enjoy.
Aug 12, 201949:54
AB Testing – Episode 105: A World of Modern Testing

AB Testing – Episode 105: A World of Modern Testing

Heads up – our technical producer (me) messed up levels and microphone choice and we ended up with a little bit of bleed between microphones that ends up not meeting our normally high quality standards. The next one will be better. For content, we talk a lot about what we’re seeing in the industry that […]
Jul 31, 201946:53
AB Testing – Episode 104: Leading Quality (with Ron Cummings-John)
Jul 01, 201945:15
AB Testing – Episode 103: The Croissants are Selenium (with Jason Huggins)

AB Testing – Episode 103: The Croissants are Selenium (with Jason Huggins)

We are joined by the inventor of Selenium, Jason Huggins. Listen in for stories about the early days of Selenium, Jason’s thoughts on our UI rants, and much much more. Be sure to check out Jason’s latest venture – Tapster
Jun 03, 201956:42
AB Testing – Episode 102: Modern Testing takes on UI Automation

AB Testing – Episode 102: Modern Testing takes on UI Automation

Alan recently took some heat on Twitter for disliking Selenium – or more accurately, how it was being used. This episode is a discussion and expansion of why Alan and Brent both have strong feelings about the industry infatuation with UI testing.
May 20, 201948:56
AB Testing – Episode 101: AB…not testing?

AB Testing – Episode 101: AB…not testing?

We realize during the intro, that this is the first time we’ve recorded an AB Testing podcast when neither Alan nor Brent are in a dedicated testing / QA role. What does that mean for Modern Testing? Turns out – not that much. Listen as we discuss.
May 06, 201943:41
AB Testing – Episode 100: The AB Testing Fanfest

AB Testing – Episode 100: The AB Testing Fanfest

Thanks to everyone who helped get us to this milestone episode. For episode 100, we share cast-time with all three of our listeners – who may or may not have been paid for their kind words.
Apr 15, 201954:53
AB Testing – Episode 99: Post-Modern Alan

AB Testing – Episode 99: Post-Modern Alan

This episode brought to you by Practitest – www.practitest.com. We spend some time preparing for episode 100, and talk just a bit more about what Alan may do next at Unity.
Apr 01, 201939:43
AB Testing –  Episode 98: Stuff about Alan and a Mailbag Question
Mar 12, 201947:59
AB Testing – Episode 97: Questions About Developers and Tests
Feb 18, 201950:44
AB Testing – Episode 96: Principle #8???

AB Testing – Episode 96: Principle #8???

Happy New Year everyone – amongst catching up, we spend most of the time discussing and debating a potential eighth Modern Testing Principle.
Jan 15, 201944:41
AB Testing – Episode 95: The 2018 Reflection / Prediction Show

AB Testing – Episode 95: The 2018 Reflection / Prediction Show

Happy Holidays to each and everyone of our three listeners. We review and reflect on 2018, and talk about some things we think may happen in 2019. Listen all the way to the end for a cliffhanger from Brent. Thanks again for listening – in 2019, we will hit episode 100, our 5 year podacting […]
Dec 25, 201850:11
AB Testing – Episode 94: Modern Testing meets Context-Driven Testing

AB Testing – Episode 94: Modern Testing meets Context-Driven Testing

It’s the penultimate show of 2018, with a lot of (hopefully interesting) preamble on this one, but we spend a chunk of time reviewing the Context-Driven Testing Principles and how they relate to the Modern Testing Principles.
Dec 03, 201844:16
AB Testing – Episode 93: The Quality Culture Transition Guide

AB Testing – Episode 93: The Quality Culture Transition Guide

We eventually talk about a model Alan built to help a team discover where they need to grow in order to build a quality culture or move towards modern testing (they’re kind of the same thing). Some rants and ramblings also included.
Nov 12, 201853:26
AB Testing – Episode 92: Customers, Bugs, and Triangles

AB Testing – Episode 92: Customers, Bugs, and Triangles

We almost (but not quite) blast through the banter at the beginning, but eventually get a chance to talk a bit more about interpreting Principle #5, and dive into a James Bach talk on the Test Automation Pyramid.
Oct 22, 201843:09
AB Testing – Episode 91: Stories and Models and Things

AB Testing – Episode 91: Stories and Models and Things

We answer a mailbag question, begin to dive into what attributes make up a quality culture, and talk about other stuff. And we have a new intro.
Oct 08, 201852:32
AB Testing – Episode 90: A Lot About Nothing

AB Testing – Episode 90: A Lot About Nothing

It’s almost an all tangent episode, but we do (eventually) get a chance to discuss how ML and AI are changing testing and quality, and we pay our respects to the great Jerry Weinberg.
Sep 24, 201845:30
AB Testing – Episode 89: Modern Testing Mailbag

AB Testing – Episode 89: Modern Testing Mailbag

All mailbag episode as we answer questions about combined engineering teams, life after Modern Testing, and early project “data” samples
Sep 10, 201846:32
AB Testing – Episode 88: Testing Isn’t Dead (Testers, OTOH…)

AB Testing – Episode 88: Testing Isn’t Dead (Testers, OTOH…)

It’s the last of our deep-dive series on Modern Testing Principles. This time, we discuss the (sometimes controversial) principle number 7: We expand testing abilities and knowhow across the team; understanding that this may reduce (or eliminate) the need for a dedicated testing specialist. Not too many tangents this time. Next time, we’ll get caught up […]
Aug 20, 201846:47
AB Testing – Episode 87: The One About Data

AB Testing – Episode 87: The One About Data

On to the next principle in our deep dive series. Principle Number 6 says: We use data extensively to deeply understand customer usage and then close the gaps between product hypotheses and business impact. Note that episode 82 makes a nice listening companion.
Aug 06, 201855:25
AB Testing – Episode 86: Not the Customer’s Champion

AB Testing – Episode 86: Not the Customer’s Champion

We’re back to discuss another of the modern testing principles. We believe that the customer is the only one capable to judge and evaluate the quality of our product Discussions include a brief discussion of the Kin phone from Microsoft. Finally – if you missed it, the Modern Testing AMA recording is here.
Jul 24, 201844:00
AB Testing – Episode 85: The Community Principle

AB Testing – Episode 85: The Community Principle

Our dive into the Modern Testing Principles continues with a dive into principle number four: We care deeply about the quality culture of our team, and we coach, lead, and nurture the team towards a more mature quality culture.
Jul 09, 201853:26
AB Testing – Episode 84: Stories about Changes and Nets

AB Testing – Episode 84: Stories about Changes and Nets

On to Principle number 3 (full list at moderntesting.org). We are a force for continuous improvement, helping the team adapt and optimize in order to succeed, rather than providing a safety net to catch failures. As promised in the show, there will be an AMA on Modern Testing hosted by Ministry of Test on July […]
Jun 25, 201856:45
AB Testing – Episode 83: Accelerating the Team

AB Testing – Episode 83: Accelerating the Team

We’re back to the MT Principle Deep-Dives (which may just be medium dives). Principle #2 says: We accelerate the team, and use models like Lean Thinking and the Theory of Constraints to help identify, prioritize and mitigate bottlenecks from the system. We talk about that – but of course, there are a few tangents we […]
Jun 05, 201848:02
AB Testing – Episode 82: Brent Talks to Alan About Data

AB Testing – Episode 82: Brent Talks to Alan About Data

We are already taking an interlude from principle deep-dives to reflect a bit on the episode 81 feedback, and for Brent and Alan to have short (but in depth) discussion on how to get started creating actionable metrics. We’ll be back to Modern Testing principles in episode 83.
May 22, 201845:20
AB Testing – Episode 81: Business Rulz!

AB Testing – Episode 81: Business Rulz!

It’s time to deep dive into the Modern Testing Principles with #1 – Our priority is improving the business. We also dive into some experiences and observations from Alan’s recent trip to STAR East.
May 07, 201850:40
AB Testing – Episode 80: The Mailbag returns: Modern Testing questions

AB Testing – Episode 80: The Mailbag returns: Modern Testing questions

It’s a mostly mailbag show, and we talk about the role of a modern testers as a role that transitions an organization to following the modern testing principles.
Apr 23, 201850:25
AB Testing – Episode 79: The Modern Tester Goes to Testbash

AB Testing – Episode 79: The Modern Tester Goes to Testbash

We talk quite a bit about testbash, Modern Testing, and give deeper answers to a few of the questions that came up in around the first public appearance of the Modern Testing Principles.
Mar 26, 201851:09
AB Testing – Episode 78: Digging in on Modern Testing Principles

AB Testing – Episode 78: Digging in on Modern Testing Principles

We don’t reiterate the Principles directly (see the Episode 77 show notes for that), we talk a lot about how we are adapting the principles slightly based on feedback and discussions with the three – and how much better the principles are for the effort. We also discover that both Brent and Alan love to cook. […]
Mar 12, 201850:47
AB Testing – Episode 77: The Conception of the Modern Testing Principles

AB Testing – Episode 77: The Conception of the Modern Testing Principles

We discuss, vet, and rewrite (and not for the last time), the Modern Testing Principles. These are a work in progress, but we’re happy to share the current final form. Listen to the podcast to hear these developed in real time. The customer is the only one suitable to judge and evaluate the quality of […]
Mar 05, 201851:27
AB Testing – Episode 76: Communing with Testers

AB Testing – Episode 76: Communing with Testers

More on community, a few tangents, and a few strong opinions. Mentioned in this episode: Influencer: The New Science of Leading Change Situational Leadership – Training, etc can be found here
Feb 19, 201849:41
AB Testing – Episode 75: From Spider to Starfish

AB Testing – Episode 75: From Spider to Starfish

We talk about how testers (and test specialists) can use the power of community to discover what they don’t know they don’t know. And other stuff.
Feb 13, 201841:03
AB Testing – Episode 74: Where in the World is the Weasel?

AB Testing – Episode 74: Where in the World is the Weasel?

First show of 2018, with a variety of topics that are all mostly about Modern Testing. Items of note include the State of Testing survey, podcast plans for 2018, Alan’s presentation schedule, and the usual amount of tangents. Links: AST Webinar (Alan presenting) State of Testing Survey
Jan 29, 201848:35
AB Testing – Episode 73: 2017 Year in review and Predictions episode
Dec 18, 201750:27
AB Testing – Episode 72

AB Testing – Episode 72

It’s the penultimate AB show of 2017. More discussions about modern testing, a bit of a preview of what’s coming up in episode 73, the role of a modern tester in code craftsmanship, and a bit on this shift-left thing.
Dec 05, 201751:55
AB Testing – Episode 71

AB Testing – Episode 71

In this eclectic episode, we discuss college savings plans, personal finance (wtf?), definitions of “Modern Testing”, and recap the Unity Services Test Summit (where Brent presented on moving to a data-centric culture). Enjoy.
Nov 21, 201743:55
AB Testing – Episode 70

AB Testing – Episode 70

Steve Rowe is back for another visit, and he shares some of his experiences from STAR Canada, discusses logical fallacies, and we all chime in on the transition from traditional to modern testing.
Nov 06, 201749:24
AB Testing – Episode 69

AB Testing – Episode 69

We had a brief break in recording, but we’re back with another fun-filled fifty minutes where we take mailbag questions on the pros and cons of ISTQB certification, the impact of easy-to-create GUI tests on the testing pyramid, and whether or not you really need a data scientist.
Oct 16, 201749:13
AB Testing – Episode 68

AB Testing – Episode 68

We spend a chunk of time talking about a report (The State of Functional Testing), and how it aligns with modern testing. We answer a #mailbag question elaborating on the role of a modern tester, and we get to hear Brent functioning on just a few hours of sleep.
Sep 18, 201749:02
AB Testing – Episode 67: The Traditional vs. Modern Test Manager Debate

AB Testing – Episode 67: The Traditional vs. Modern Test Manager Debate

For this episode, we shoved Brent into a time machine and asked 1990s “Traditional Test Manager” Brent to have a conversation with “Modern Testing Manager” Alan. The usual arguments and antics follow.
Sep 07, 201747:02
AB Testing – Episode 66

AB Testing – Episode 66

A bit of a follow up episode with more management advice. We talk about how to give feedback to our employees and about frameworks and approaches we like for giving that feedback. This episode brought to you by STAR Canada. If you are thinking about attending, STARCANADA is offering 20% off your conference fees […]
Aug 21, 201701:03:43
AB Testing – Episode 65

AB Testing – Episode 65

It’s the AB Testing Management episode. We reflect a bit on our growth as managers and share some of the tools and philosophies that (we hope) allow us to succeed. Some of the books mentioned include (also note the link on the right for a free month of Audible): The Leaders Guide to Radical Management […]
Aug 15, 201753:44
AB Testing – Episode 64

AB Testing – Episode 64

We talk about Agile Testing (both the concept and the book), and how it relates to the “Modern Testing” we’ve talked about before. Also – there’s a mailbag question on Multi Armed Bandit Testing. This episode brought to you by the folks at Techwell. Attend Agile Dev East, the premier agile event covering the latest […]
Aug 08, 201750:29
AB Testing – Episode 63

AB Testing – Episode 63

More talk about data, CIRA (collect-inform-recommend-act), and Brent gives Alan free advice on maturing a data aware organization. We mention the great Douglas Hubbard book – How To Measure Anything This AB Testing brought to you by Kobiton Test your mobile app on real cloud based devices today! Kobiton is the complete mobile device cloud […]
Jul 18, 201748:11
AB Testing – Episode 62

AB Testing – Episode 62

It’s an all mailbag show, with questions (and answers) about Model-Based testing; if testers are being (or will be) phased out – or if the role of the tester is simply evolving and expanding (and if the expanded role needs a new name); and some expansion on the Collect-Inform-Recommend-Act model. This episode sponsored by the […]
Jul 10, 201757:28
AB Testing – Episode 61: INTP – Intermittently Normal Tangential Podcast

AB Testing – Episode 61: INTP – Intermittently Normal Tangential Podcast

It had to happen – it’s an all-tangent show! But, somehow we manage to cover a lot about technical testing, data science, tester mindset and more. Alan mentions a lot of books on this episode – here’s the list with amazon links. Steal like an artist Everybody Lies Wonderland What every BODY is saying And […]
Jun 26, 201752:50
AB Testing – Episode 60: #ATAOSQ – Information providers no more

AB Testing – Episode 60: #ATAOSQ – Information providers no more

Here at AB Testing, we like this episode a lot. Give it a listen and let us know what you think. More on modern testing, and we break down “accelerating the achievement of shippable quality” in the mailbag segment.
Jun 12, 201701:00:35
AB Testing – Episode 59

AB Testing – Episode 59

We are back with Rants, Rages, and Regurgitated information from the world of software engineering, and software quality. Topics include just a bit of chat about checking and testing, and then a deeper dive into the topic of “Modern Testing”. This episode brought to our listeners by Kobiton. Test your mobile app on real devices […]
May 29, 201741:14
AB Testing – Episode 58

AB Testing – Episode 58

Topics this time include a brief recap of episode 57, discussion on viewing a test organization as a community, and a mailbag question on dealing with budgets.
May 07, 201754:24
AB Testing – Episode 57: Hans Buwalda explains action-based testing

AB Testing – Episode 57: Hans Buwalda explains action-based testing

This time on AB Testing, we share the microphone with automation expert, Hans Buwalda. We talk with Hans a lot about his views on test design and test automation, including action-based testing (one of the other AB testing types), as well as his upcoming talks at STAR conferences. This episode brought to our listeners by Kobiton. […]
May 01, 201744:00
AB Testing – Episode 56

AB Testing – Episode 56

Took a while, but we’re back and ranting away. This time, we talk about the role of Test / Quality as, Accelerating the achievement of shippable quality, and, in a newly named segment called, “Alan talks about working at Unity”, Alan aswers a mailbag question about his approach to change working at Unity.
Apr 03, 201755:13
AB Testing – Episode 55

AB Testing – Episode 55

It’s the double-nickel episode of AB Testing. Included in today’s ramblings are: Alan and Brent talk about graduate school, and learning in general, as well as our thoughts on Dr. Seuss’s greatest works Our sponsor, Techwell, is offering a $250 discount on upcoming software training classes in Boston and Chicago using the promo code 17ABW – […]
Mar 06, 201745:35
AB Testing – Episode 54

AB Testing – Episode 54

First ever AB podcast with A&B working at two different companies. As expected, Alan talks about Unity the whole time.
Feb 21, 201745:16
AB Testing – Episode 53

AB Testing – Episode 53

Alan’s last day at Microsoft, Tequila, and a mailbag. Oh yeah – and this show sponsored by Techwell. Use the promo code ABTesting to get $200 off of you STAR East registration.
Jan 26, 201749:17
AB Testing – Episode 52

AB Testing – Episode 52

Some bad recording (but only at the beginning this time), and some big news. Listen and find out the latest on AB Testing.
Jan 19, 201753:35
AB Testing – Episode 51: 2016 Year in review and Predictions episode
Dec 23, 201635:42
AB Testing – Episode 50

AB Testing – Episode 50

It’s the Big Five-Oh for Alan and Brent. For our golden anniversary, we talk about TLAs, PMs gone wild, the Concierge MVP, and Brent takes a scrum master quiz.
Dec 14, 201647:18
AB Testing – Episode 49

AB Testing – Episode 49

More about TestBash, and Alan (finally) gets into specifics on Microsoft Teams. And tangents….
Nov 21, 201643:07
AB Testing – Episode 48: Alan hosts the Three at Test Bash Philly

AB Testing – Episode 48: Alan hosts the Three at Test Bash Philly

Live from Test Bash in Philadelphia, this is VAMP Testing with three of the three (Vernon Richards (@testerfromleic), Michael Richards (@saltygunner), and Perze Ababa (@perze)). We discuss sessions at TestBash along with the appropriate number of tangents.
Nov 18, 201626:09
AB Testing – Episode 47

AB Testing – Episode 47

This episode includes a discussion of Alan’s new car (along with ideas on learning and saving), and a long discussion on Alan’s long journey to continuous delivery. And a mailbag.
Oct 24, 201601:00:21
AB Testing – Episode 46:  Steve Rowe discusses Data . . . and Stuff

AB Testing – Episode 46: Steve Rowe discusses Data . . . and Stuff

In episode 46, we have our very first guest, as Steve Rowe joins us for a discussion on his 3 years in a data science role (plus the usual tangents and random bits of trivia)
Sep 28, 201658:13
AB Testing – Episode 45

AB Testing – Episode 45

Pretty much more stuff on what it takes to become data-centric. And weirdly, Alan gives Brent a hard time.
Sep 09, 201647:13
AB Testing – Episode 44

AB Testing – Episode 44

This episode is dedicated entirely to the topic of how to transition from data oblivious to a data-centric organization. Very little Alan yelling at Brent, but a whole lot of Brent preaching goodness about how to use data to advance product quality.
Aug 26, 201649:34
AB Testing – Episode 43

AB Testing – Episode 43

Hey – audio is much better this time. Episode 43 includes discussions of test generation tools, learning, and whether or not Microsoft is a good example of advancing engineering. Don’t forget – use the promo code ABTESTING when you register for StarWest to get a $200 discount (or go to http://well.tc/starwestab)
Aug 17, 201645:13
AB Testing – Episode 42

AB Testing – Episode 42

First off, the audio on this episode has a few issues – we’ve taken steps to improve that in the future. The content includes Alan being Angry, the concept of “Feature Jam”, discussion about CDT, and a bit about data driven engineering.
Jul 25, 201638:29
AB Testing – Episode 41

AB Testing – Episode 41

Topics this time include Performance Reviews, Alan’s trip to the Better Software conference, the changing role of Program Management at Microsoft, and a shot out to the folks at The Testing Show.
Jun 20, 201648:52
AB Testing – Episode 40

AB Testing – Episode 40

It’s an(other) all mailbag show. And it’s episode 40. And it was recorded on National Donut Day – what else could you ask for?
Jun 07, 201648:29
AB Testing – Episode 39

AB Testing – Episode 39

Hey everyone… This time around, we talk a bit about Alan’s trip to Waterloo, and then we deep dive into Agile’s “longstanding and ongoing attack on the testing role” As you can expect, it’s a fun one.
May 20, 201649:50
AB Testing – Episode 38

AB Testing – Episode 38

An almost all-mailbag show, Alan and Brent discuss planning semesters vs. milestones, v-teams, and managing teams vs. managing features.
May 04, 201649:08
AB Testing – Episode 37

AB Testing – Episode 37

Live, on the air, we reply to a tweet that kicks off oneofthethree.slack.com. And then Brent (inspired by Patrick Prill aka @testpappy) asks Alan to define Quality, Testing, Test Cases, Testers, Integration Testing, and a few other terms that are difficult to define for most of the three, including (especially?) Alan.
Apr 18, 201656:35
AB Testing – Episode 36

AB Testing – Episode 36

It’s been two years, and 36 episodes…of the same stuff. Yet people still listen. This episode includes some discussion of shipping every day (or at least more often than once a week), open space work areas, and what could be our own AB Testing record for tangents within a podcast!
Apr 10, 201601:01:37
AB Testing – Episode 35

AB Testing – Episode 35

We’re baaaaack. This episode covers the one time when Alan was a developer, Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool, balancing quality, collective ownership, and developer owned quality. All in less than an hour.
Mar 15, 201655:40
AB Testing – Episode 34

AB Testing – Episode 34

Another AB Testing podcast in the books (and on the web). This time, we discuss the nature of bugs, why we don’t want our testers back; and in the mailbag session, discuss our role in backlog grooming and planning.
Feb 12, 201601:00:33
AB Testing – Episode 33

AB Testing – Episode 33

Happy new year. This blab-fest covers Star Wars, Fallout 4, straw man arguments, even more on Combined (or Unified!) Engineering, and why smart people do stupid things!
Jan 12, 201651:12
AB Testing – Episode 32: 2015 Year in review and Predictions episode
Dec 18, 201555:38
AB Testing – Episode 31

AB Testing – Episode 31

This episode includes a quick rant on tecking vs. chesting (or something like that), moving from predictive to adaptive, and the mailbag is back with a discussion on combined engineering.
Dec 05, 201542:35
AB Testing – Episode 30

AB Testing – Episode 30

This episode is all about “stuff Alan and Brent did” – or at least it started that way until we start rambling. Quick recaps of the Strata conference, Eurostar, Redfin, and Riot all find their way into our discussion.
Nov 20, 201542:55
AB Testing – Episode 29: LIVE from the Redfin HQ

AB Testing – Episode 29: LIVE from the Redfin HQ

From the offices of Redfin in Seattle, Washington, Brent and Alan deliver the first ever AB Testing roadshow. Sound isn’t fantastic, and the content, as usual, isn’t very original, but I’m sure one of us said something that will raise your eyebrows. Thanks to Evan and everyone else at Redfin for hosting us, feeding us […]
Nov 10, 201501:19:29
AB Testing – Episode 28

AB Testing – Episode 28

Yet another installment of AB Testing (including what I think is a world record for AB Testing release velocity). This episode includes another rant from Alan about dumb things people do at Microsoft, a long tangent on Alan’s music background that has no relevance whatsoever, and some discussion on upcoming public appearances from Brent and […]
Sep 25, 201550:50
AB Testing – Episode 27

AB Testing – Episode 27

In their patented pattern of pure randomness, Alan and Brent talk about the context-driven school of testing, the video music awards, upcoming test conferences, and pointy-haired managers! Errata: Lessons learned…came out in 2001 (not 2003 as Alan guessed on the show). A link to Ioana’s awesome CAST talk is here
Sep 04, 201543:44
AB Testing – Episode 26

AB Testing – Episode 26

Recorded in downtown Bellevue, WA…Alan and Brent talk about a talk – and Alan asks Brent questions from a sample ISTQB test.
Aug 10, 201539:40
AB Testing – Episode 25

AB Testing – Episode 25

Discussions include Agile, Alan’s new job, developer testing, and we go to the mail bag (maaaiilll baaaaaag) for a quick discussion of Tension Metrics.
Jul 22, 201553:12
AB Testing – Episode 24

AB Testing – Episode 24

A trip report from STAR Canada; some discussion of whether or not test is dead (or if being dead is dead), and a trip into the mailbag to talk about monolithic test systems. And Alan fixed the bug that was hiding the media bar on the blog site.
Jun 30, 201552:27
AB Testing – Episode 23

AB Testing – Episode 23

It’s Alan’s 20-year anniversary at Microsoft…and he has a new job. We also talk preview Alan’s talk on A/B (with the slash) testing at Better Software, and attempt to get through some mailbag items without getting too distracted (we failed).
Jun 05, 201546:34
AB Testing – Episode 22

AB Testing – Episode 22

In this episode: Iterative is not Agile, Brent’s version of the penny game, and a short discussion of AB Testing vanity metrics. …and probably other stuff too.
May 18, 201543:02
AB Testing – Episode 21: Dysfunctional Central Organizations

AB Testing – Episode 21: Dysfunctional Central Organizations

Rants and soapboxes are back. This episode also includes a discussion of central organizations, why they fail, and how they can work. And other fun stuff too.
May 04, 201541:35
AB Testing – Episode 20

AB Testing – Episode 20

It’s our twentieth podcast, AND – it’s our one year anniversary show. We talk about logical fallacies, generalists, and a whole lot of other random topics.
Apr 09, 201548:10
AB Testing – Episode 19

AB Testing – Episode 19

In this episode, Alan and Brent talk about dashboards, scorecards, buzzwords, soapboxes, and Alan’s appearance on another podcast. Also included is yet another installment of silly things people do at work to incur the wrath of Alan.
Mar 24, 201551:18
AB Testing – Episode 18

AB Testing – Episode 18

Brent has a new job! We talk about what Brent does, discuss interviews, and what test specialists actually (may?) do. And other stuff. Here’s the link for the Data Science in the Cloud e-book mentioned in the podcast.
Mar 02, 201553:14
AB Testing – Episode 17

AB Testing – Episode 17

Eventually….Brent and Alan discuss their thoughts on the future of the Program Manager role at Microsoft. The journey there, as always, is interesting and perhaps even entertaining.
Feb 05, 201544:51
AB Testing – Episode 16

AB Testing – Episode 16

We’re back for our first episode of 2015…where we talk about almost nothing, but do manage to discuss management styles, holocracy, and what we did with our holiday break.
Jan 20, 201544:47
AB Testing – Episode 15

AB Testing – Episode 15

In our last podcast of Twenty-Fourteen, Brent and I talk about Generalizing Specialists, Specializing Generalists, and weird things Alan sees at Microsoft (and other random topics that pop up along the way). Happy Holidays everyone
Dec 19, 201445:44
AB Testing – Episode 14

AB Testing – Episode 14

We’re back! Topics this week include: Heroes vs. Teamwork Not Invented Here Syndrome Bean Counters The Mailbag And the completely bizarre story of Brent’s first days at Microsoft
Dec 09, 201447:47
AB Testing – Episode 13

AB Testing – Episode 13

If only you could hear what we left on the editing room floor… Instead, Alan and Brent talk about GTAC, meetings, and bring back the mailbag.
Nov 13, 201443:20
AB Testing – Episode 12

AB Testing – Episode 12

This episode includes discussions on peer feedback, the “Skill and the Will”, Alan’s favorite author, Steven Johnson, Not-Invented-Here, and learning organizations.
Oct 27, 201444:25
AB Testing – Episode 11

AB Testing – Episode 11

Alan and Brent are back. In this episode, they discuss interviews, data driven engineering, knowledge sharing and the usual grab bag of tangents and random topics related to software and software quality.
Oct 14, 201445:15
AB Testing – Episode 10

AB Testing – Episode 10

After a long break, Brent and Alan are back with Episode 10. This week, A & B talk about what changed at Microsoft this summer, what they think is going to change next, and talk a bit about the latest IOS bug. Note: the audio is a little wonky this week. Long story, but it […]
Sep 26, 201441:21
AB Testing – Episode 9

AB Testing – Episode 9

Last episode of the summer! Alan talks about git, roles of testers, and we talk about what may (or will) change while Alan is taking a long, long break.
Jul 09, 201445:09
AB Testing  – Episode 8

AB Testing – Episode 8

And…we’re back. this episode covers Brent’s IRRs, Agile Testing, and, as usual, a wide variety of tangents and rants.
Jul 09, 201442:50
AB Testing – Episode 7

AB Testing – Episode 7

In this “all-mailbag” episode, we talk more about change (specifically some changes in engineering approaches we see at Microsoft, including changes in the way we lead and manage people), and a variety of related (and not-so-related) rants. Enjoy.
Jun 16, 201452:02
AB Testing – Episode 6

AB Testing – Episode 6

Alan and Brent are back. This time they talk about work item tracking, QOS & QOE, the World of Warcraft guide to running v-teams, and Alan’s upcoming extended vacation.
Jun 03, 201429:17
AB Testing – Episode 5

AB Testing – Episode 5

Brent and Alan are back! In this episode, they discuss Alan’s trip to STAR East, the perils of automation, some ideas on leadership, and how not to tell your team that you’re “Agile”.
May 19, 201444:34
AB Testing – Episode 4: Leading Change, Learning Organizations, and Test Zombies

AB Testing – Episode 4: Leading Change, Learning Organizations, and Test Zombies

In this episode, Brent and Alan discuss Alan’s upcoming trip to the STAR East test conference, and a bit about using Kanban for chores. And then comes a question / statement about estimation that’s worth every minute.
Apr 28, 201449:29
AB Testing – Episode 3: Dashboards, Documentation, and Dumb manifestos

AB Testing – Episode 3: Dashboards, Documentation, and Dumb manifestos

In this installment, Alan and Brent talk about Alan’s trip to Florida, data driven engineering, and estimation. And Brent claims that he “hates the Agile Manifesto”.
Apr 14, 201443:31
AB Testing – Episode 2: What AND Why

AB Testing – Episode 2: What AND Why

In this episode, Brent and Alan talk about change management and the difference between Predictive, Iterative, and Adaptive software development models. And Testing!
Apr 07, 201436:13
AB Testing – Episode 1: Introductions

AB Testing – Episode 1: Introductions

Episode 1 – Two Software Testing veterans from Microsoft decide to start podcasting.
Apr 03, 201419:14