
Disinformation Wars
By American Foreign Policy Council

Disinformation WarsAug 05, 2021

EPISODE 32: Bringing balance to reporting about Israel
In this episode of DISINFORMATION WARS, host Ilan Berman speaks with Jacki Alexander, Chief Executive Officer of HonestReporting, about how her organization is harnessing social media and badly-needed context in order to combat bias in reporting about Israel and its place in the Middle East.
Materials referenced in this episode:
— Report by Israel’s Channel 14 on the Palestinian Authority’s “prisoners project” (in Hebrew): https://www.now14.co.il/למחבלים-בלבד-שכונת-היוקרה-שמוקמת-ברשפ/
— HonestReporting’s expose on the “project”: https://honestreporting.com/obstacle-to-peace-palestinian-authority-approves-terrorists-only-settlement/

EPISODE 31: China’s global propaganda push
In this episode of DISINFORMATION WARS, host Ilan Berman speaks with Joshua Kurlantzick of the Council on Foreign Relations regarding his new book on Chinese media strategy, and the methods and means by which the PRC is shaping global perceptions.
Materials referenced in this episode:
Kurlantzick’s book, Beijing’s Global Media Offensive: China’s Uneven Campaign to Influence Asia and the World (Oxford University Press, 2022), available here.
The Associated Press’ investigative report into Chinese influence in Utah (accessible here).

EPISODE 30: Propaganda and the pandemic
In this episode of DISINFORMATION WARS, host Ilan Berman speaks with Michael Sobolik of the American Foreign Policy Council about China's efforts to shape global perceptions surrounding COVID19 at the start of the global pandemic - and how that war of narratives has now returned with a vengeance.

EPISODE 29: Information is a Russian weapon
In this episode of DISINFORMATION WARS, host Ilan Berman speaks with Ivana Stradner of the Foundation for Defense of Democracies about how Russia weaponizes information to achieve its geopolitical objectives -- and how the United States and its allies can begin to push back.

EPISODE 28: Israel’s upgraded digital diplomacy
In this episode of DISINFORMATION WARS, host Ilan Berman speaks with Amb. David Saranga, the head of digital diplomacy at Israel’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs, about how Jerusalem is using new media and innovative techniques to share Israel’s story with global audiences.

EPISODE 27: Russian disinformation is helping reshape Latin America
In this episode of DISINFORMATION WARS, host Ilan Berman talks to Joseph Humire, Executive Director of the Center for Secure Free Society, about how Russian narratives and tropes are resonating in the Americas - and what that means for local politics, as well as for American security.
Materials referenced in this episode:
— Ilan Berman and Joseph M. Humire, eds., Iran’s Strategic Penetration of Latin America (Lexington Books, 2016), https://www.amazon.com/Irans-Strategic-Penetration-Latin-America/dp/1498505988/ref=sr_1_1?crid=ON196ZVZL7HQ&keywords=iran%27s+strategic+penetration&qid=1671712687&sprefix=iran%27s+strategic+penetration%2Caps%2C63&sr=8-1.
— LatinoBarometer’s 2021 Human Development Report: https://www.latinobarometro.org/lat.jsp?Idioma=0&Idioma=0

EPISODE 26: Russia’s emerging exile media sphere
In this episode of DISINFORMATION WARS, host Ilan Berman talks to Roman Anin, Editor-in-Chief of Russian investigative outlet iStories, about the consequences of the Kremlin’s war in Ukraine, the moral and practical stakes involved, and the emergence of a new media ecosystem for Russian opposition journalists.

EPISODE 25: China’s expanding digital authoritarianism
In this episode of DISINFORMATION WARS, host Ilan Berman talks to Klon Kitchen of the American Enterprise Institute about how technology is enabling China’s deepening domestic repression, and how that same technology is becoming an important - and ominous - export commodity for the PRC.

EPISODE 24: How the rest of the world sees China
In this episode of DISINFORMATION WARS, host Ilan Berman talks to Eric Olander, Editor-in-Chief of the China Global South Project, about how China is seen throughout the developing world - and why these views are so different from Western perceptions of the PRC.
MATERIALS REFERENCED IN THIS EPISODE:
— The China Global South Daily Brief is available at https://chinaglobalsouth.com

EPISODE 23: China’s global propaganda push
In this episode of DISINFORMATION WARS, host Ilan Berman talks to the Washington Post’s Josh Rogin about how China is working to reshape global narratives to advance its geopolitical agenda and improve its international standing.
MATERIALS REFERENCED IN THIS EPISODE:
— Josh’s book, Chaos under Heaven: Trump, Xi, and the Battle for the 21st Century: https://www.amazon.com/Chaos-Under-Heaven-America-Twenty-First/dp/0358699282/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1662421880&sr=8-1
— Josh’s August 17th Washington Post column, “The Chinese ambassador’s charm offensive is falling flat in Washington”: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/08/17/chinese-ambassador-disinformation-alternate-facts-taiwan/

EPISODE 22: China’s growing “discourse power” in Israel
In this episode of DISINFORMATION WARS, host Ilan Berman talks to Alexander Pevzner of Strategy Risks, a business risk consultancy, about the mechanics of how China has set about building presence - and popularity - in Israel, and what it might mean.
MATERIALS REFERENCED IN THIS EPISODE:
— The Pew Research Center’s 2019 survey of attitudes toward China: https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2019/12/05/attitudes-toward-china-2019/
— The Pew Research Center’s 2022 survey of attitudes toward China: https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2022/06/29/negative-views-of-china-tied-to-critical-views-of-its-policies-on-human-rights/

EPISODE 21: The rise and fall of Biden’s disinformation board
In this episode of DISINFORMATION WARS, host Ilan Berman talks to AFPC Fellow and disinformation specialist Monika Richter about the missteps that torpedoed the Biden administration’s latest initiative - and the underlying problems with how the U.S. and Europe approach today’s digital disorder.
MATERIALS REFERENCED IN THIS EPISODE:
-- Monika Richter, “Is Biden’s Disinfo Czar Qualified?” The Bulwark, May 6, 2022, https://www.thebulwark.com/is-bidens-disinfo-czar-qualified/
-- Matt Apuzzo, “Pressured by China, E.U. Softens Report on Covid-19 Disinformation,” New York Times, April 24, 2020, https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/24/world/europe/disinformation-china-eu-coronavirus.html

EPISODE 20: How Iran is influencing Israeli society
In this episode of DISINFORMATION WARS, host Ilan Berman talks to Israeli disinformation specialist Moshe Kwiat about recent terror attacks in Israel - and how they are linked to a broader Iranian media campaign to destabilize the country.
MOSHE KWIAT is an open source intelligence analyst specializing in disinformation, and a graduate researcher at Reichman University. He is a captain in the IDF reserves, and has worked on counterterrorism and international relations for Israel's Ministry of Public Security and the Israeli Ministry of Defense. His research and writing have appeared in such publications as the Israel Journal of Foreign Affairs, The Times of Israel, and The Jerusalem Post.

EPISODE 19: The roots of Russian dysfunction
In this episode of DISINFORMATION WARS, host Ilan Berman talks to veteran Russian journalist Yulia Latynina regarding the myths, misconceptions and errors that have helped shape the Kremlin’s current war in Ukraine.
YULIA LATYNINA is an award-winning journalist and literary writer who worked for decades in Russian media, most recently as a correspondent with the Ekho Moskvy radio station and the Novaya Gazeta newspaper. In 2008, she was awarded the U.S. State Department’s Freedom Defenders Award for her work on human rights and civil society in Russia.

Episode 18: Russia's new anti-NATO offensive
In this episode of DISINFORMATION WARS, host Ilan Berman speaks with Mollie Saltskog of The Soufan Group about how Russia is now trying to harness propaganda and disinformation to discourage the Nordic states from joining the NATO alliance.

EPISODE 17: A war of narratives with Russia
In this episode of DISINFORMATION WARS, host Ilan Berman speaks with Cliff May, president of the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, about the informational and ideological contest surrounding the current war in Ukraine, and its implications for the global order.

EPISODE 16: Russia’s shrinking information space
In this episode of DISINFORMATION WARS, host Ilan Berman visits once again with Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty president Jamie Fly to talk about how the war in Ukraine has served as a catalyst for a new, more restrictive media environment in Russia, and how U.S. public diplomacy is adapting as a result.

EPISODE 15: How the West is responding to Russia's new war
In this episode of DISINFORMATION WARS, host Ilan Berman speaks with Bill Browder, CEO of Hermitage Capital and one of the world's leading anti-corruption crusaders, about the economic pressure the U.S. and its allies are bringing to bear against Moscow in an effort to deter Russian aggression.

EPISODE 14: Making sense of Putin’s war against Ukraine
In this episode of DISINFORMATION WARS, host Ilan Berman speaks with leading Russia expert Michael Kofman of CNA about the strategic realities and media optics surrounding Russia’s military offensive against Ukraine and the new war in Europe.

EPISODE 13: Telling Israel's story
In this episode of DISINFORMATION WARS, host Ilan Berman speaks with lawyer and digital activist Arsen Ostrovsky about the state of Israeli public diplomacy, the messaging challenges facing the Jewish state, and the future of regional engagement.

EPISODE 12: The trouble with Al-Jazeera
In this episode of DISINFORMATION WARS, host Ilan Berman speaks with Amb. Mark Wallace, CEO of the Counter Extremism Project, about the origins and influence of Al-Jazeera, as well as its role as an instrument of Qatari foreign policy.

EPISODE 11: Israel, Hamas, and the media war
In this episode of DISINFORMATION WARS, host Ilan Berman speaks with Jonathan Schanzer of the Foundation for Defense of Democracies regarding the May 2021 war between Israel and Hamas, and how Western media misreported the true contours of that conflict.

EPISODE 10: The Islamic Republic's social media strategy
In this episode of DISINFORMATION WARS, host Ilan Berman speaks with Iran democracy activist Mariam Memarsadeghi about the message that Iranian opposition forces are trying to send to the world in their struggle for freedom... and how the country's clerical regime is working overtime on the World Wide Web in order to stop them.

EPISODE 9: Media in today's Afghanistan
In this episode of DISINFORMATION WARS, host Ilan Berman speaks with Andres Ilves of Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty about the media environment in Afghanistan since the Taliban takeover this Fall, and the political and informational challenges now facing the country.

EPISODE 8: Getting Iran outreach right
In this episode of DISINFORMATION WARS, host Ilan Berman speaks with Alex Vatanka of the Middle East Institute about the current problems afflicting America's official broadcasting toward Iran, and how we can do better in messaging to the Iranian people.

EPISODE 7: Misunderstanding Iran
In this episode of DISINFORMATION WARS, host Ilan Berman speaks with Jason Brodsky of United Against Nuclear Iran (UANI) about the real political state of play within the Islamic Republic of Iran today, and how Western media is missing the big stories taking place within the country.

EPISODE 6: Tech and terrorism
In this episode of DISINFORMATION WARS, host Ilan Berman speaks with Erin Saltman of the Global Internet Forum to Counter Terrorism (www.gifct.org) about the state of extremist media today, how Islamic radicals have learned to harness social media for their own ends, and what messages are resonating with global publics.

EPISODE 5: Terrorism and extremism, two decades after 9/11
In this episode of DISINFORMATION WARS, host Ilan Berman speaks with Katherine Zimmerman of the American Enterprise Institute about the state of global terrorism, extremist thought, and jihadi messaging on the twentieth anniversary of the September 11th attacks.

EPISODE 4: Information and power -- the view from Moscow
In this episode of DISINFORMATION WARS, host Ilan Berman speaks with renowned Russian journalist Andrei Soldatov about Russia's information warfare strategy, how the government of Vladimir Putin sees the West, and the future of our "battle of ideas" with the Kremlin.

EPISODE 3: The Russian-Estonian cyberwar, revisited
In this episode of DISINFORMATION WARS, host Ilan Berman speaks with former Estonian President Toomas Ilves about Russia's 2007 digital offensive against his country, and the current threat to global information posed by the Kremlin.

EPISODE 2: The Kremlin's war on U.S. broadcasting
In this episode of DISINFORMATION WARS, host American Foreign Policy Council Senior Vice President Ilan Berman talks with Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty President Jamie Fly about the Russian government's efforts to shut down the broadcaster, and what they signify.

EPISODE 1: The ISIS message… and how to succeed in Mideast media
On the inaugural episode of Disinformation Wars, host Ilan Berman speaks with Amb. Alberto Fernandez, the former head of U.S. government broadcasting to the Arab world, about the resilience of jihadi propaganda and the enduring importance of a compelling American narrative.