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By Jason Vest

Conversations with individuals around the world challenging the status quo in education
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Episode 21 - Jen Molitor

AfterEdAug 17, 2018

Season 2, Episode 4 - Tricia Pettis & Michaela Loo

Season 2, Episode 4 - Tricia Pettis & Michaela Loo

  Tricia Pettis & Michaela Loo

  • Personalized Learning Coaches at South View Middle School, just outside of Minneapolis
  • You can find them both on Twitter @triciapettis10 and @MichaelaMLoo

In this episode:

  •  The 30,000 foot perspective of personalized learning
  •  Misconceptions about personalized learning
  •  Example of personalized learning at it’s finest
  • How do students initially respond to this pedagogical shift? How have they evolved?
  • This is a big mindset shift for many teachers. What are some of the mental obstacles you think teacher’s face? How do we get over them? 
  •  Strategies to “go personalized” 
  •  Big picture/philosophical advice for teachers/administrators to implement personalized learning? 
Jul 25, 201932:27
Season 2, Episode 3 - Arthur Chadwick

Season 2, Episode 3 - Arthur Chadwick

 Arthur Chadwick 

Double Major at VCU, Mechanical Engineering & Disruptive Innovation 

Founder & President of Hyperloop VCU

Where to Find Arthur and His Work:

LinkedIn - Arthur Chadwick

In This Episode:

Hyperloop technology and the future implications for travel

Past educational influences and experiences

Hyperloop at VCU and Elon Musk

Learning from failures and successes

What do you do with a disruptive innovation major?

How do you balance it all?

May 24, 201932:57
Season 2, Episode 2 - Ted Dintersmith

Season 2, Episode 2 - Ted Dintersmith


Ted Dintersmith

Author, Speaker, Producer, Advocate

Find anything and everything about Ted at and on Twitter @dintersmith

  • What’s the disconnect between our personal passions for education and kids coming out great and what is stated about education in polls? Is it sign of our hopelessness rather than our not caring? Or is there something else going on entirely?

  • You’re a Virginia guy...a lot of times I hear people say “we can’t do that here.” So, let’s debunk some things what’s possible in the Commonwealth as far as innovation is concerned?

  • When you look at modern organizations that are truly thriving, a lot of the decision making is decentralized. I think of a few different things and maybe you can draw a connection with all of these, but I think of Toyota, Clayton Christensen’s work, lean startup principles from Eric Ries, and design thinking at IDEO. And yet, in education, if I have a great idea, I can’t implement without approval from 10 different people. I’m not flexible enough or agile. Why is that and what are the intended & unintended consequences? 

  • You were recently in the Richmond Metro area helping to launch the Virginia is for Learners Innovation Network. Would you talk a little about what the network is hoping to achieve and why?

  • Final question Ted. I want to be a voice for students for a minute. At some point in their school career, they will begin to hate school. What should students say and/or do about that? Or should they just sit down and do what they’re told?
Apr 10, 201938:02
Season 2, Episode 1 - Somiah Lattimore & Todd Nuckols

Season 2, Episode 1 - Somiah Lattimore & Todd Nuckols

 Todd Nuckols 

Executive Director, Lighthouse Labs

Somiah Lattimore

Managing Director, Lighthouse U

Director of Experiential Learning, VCU da Vinci Center

  • Self-introductions

  • What is Lighthouse Labs?

  • What is Lighthouse U?

  • Why the focus on colleges and universities?

  • What are the principles behind Lean startup?

  • How does someone think like an entrepreneur?

  • Can the status quo and entrepreneurship co-exist?

  • What do you hope the long-term outcome is from our upcoming panel, ReimagineRVA, on innovation, entrepreneurship, and reimagining the purpose of school?
Apr 05, 201927:43
Episode 30 - Julia Freeland Fisher

Episode 30 - Julia Freeland Fisher

Julia Freeland Fisher

Author, Who You Know: Unlocking Innovations That Expand Students' Networks

Director of Education Research, Clayton Christensen Institute


Twitter @juliaffreeland


Disruptive innovation

  • What is it?
  • Why should folks in education care?

You wrote a blog post at the beginning of the year titled: A Look Back At What We Learned in 2018. People can read the article, but I’d like to combine a couple of those questions into one:

  • What does the future of K12 and Higher Education look like?

Her book

  • How can social capital unlock student potential, what can we do to get it for students, and whose responsibility is it?

Innovation & ESSA( Every Student Succeeds Act)

  • What can & can’t be done in schools?
  • See the report HERE

Final Question

  • What conversations do we need to have in our own neck of the woods to move the needle in the right direction in education?
Feb 11, 201935:23
Episode 29 - 7th Grade Inventions & Innovations Class (Raw & Uncut)

Episode 29 - 7th Grade Inventions & Innovations Class (Raw & Uncut)

An end of the semester conversation with my 7th grade Inventions & Innovations class. We talked about some of their favorite projects, the purpose of school, and reimagining education. None of them are experts in the field, but they get the big picture. Tune in!
Jan 31, 201927:36
Episode 28 - Tom Vander Ark

Episode 28 - Tom Vander Ark

 Tom Vander Ark 

-CEO, Getting Smart

-First Executive Director of Education for Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation

-Former Superintendent

Where to connect with Tom:

-Getting Smart

-On Twitter @tvanderark

In this episode:

-Profile of a Virginia Graduate, Henrico Learner Profile, and how to use it

-Tom’s recent article titled “What Game Are You Playing: Improvement or Innovation?

-Relationship between innovation and equity

-Future of work and its implications

-The value of an entrepreneurial mindset

-”Advanced” degrees and higher education

-The “Guidance Gap”

Jan 03, 201932:31
Episode 27 - Kelly Young
Nov 30, 201831:28
Episode 26 - Garret Westlake

Episode 26 - Garret Westlake

Garret Westlake, Executive Director of VCU da Vinci Center

In this episode...
-How’d you end up in RVA?
-For those that may not know, what does the Da Vinci center do?
-Could you talk about Hyperloop for a minute?
-You know I’m a middle school educator, why is middle school such a great time for creativity and innovation?
-Taking the education focus a step further: what’s working and what needs to go?
-Why should people be paying attention to what’s happening at VCU and in Richmond?
Oct 30, 201824:27
Episode 25 - Will Morris

Episode 25 - Will Morris

Founder & CEO, EdConnective @edconnective Google “edconnective” Email -Why did you create EdConnective? -Why aren’t principal observations good enough? -Part of what I tell my students and colleagues all the time is “some people are going to love what you do, but some are going to doubt your abilities and hate on you for trying to change things.” What do your haters/doubters say? -A friend of mine, Don Wettrick says that every student doesn’t need to be an entrepreneur but all of them should be able to think like one. What are your feelings about that? -What does a kid “need” to thrive in the real world? -If you could waive a magic wand and change one thing about K12 education, what would it be?
Oct 09, 201825:29
Episode 24 - Youssef Sarhan

Episode 24 - Youssef Sarhan

Designer, Founder of Zero Pattern

In this episode...
-You talk a lot about value. What is it and how do you provide it?
-More importantly, how do you monetize your value? And does it “matter” what sector you are in?
-How do you build trust on social media?
-How should people go about setting and reaching goals?
-If you could waive a magic wand and change one thing about K12 education, what would it be?

Find Youssef...
-On Twitter @YS

Check out Zero Pattern too..
-On Twitter @zeropattern
Sep 18, 201839:27
Episode 23 - Best of the After Ed Podcast

Episode 23 - Best of the After Ed Podcast

Just what it sounds like. A collection of some of the greatest moments from the first year of the AfterEd podcast.

If you enjoy the podcast, please take a minute to subscribe and leave a review. I understand how it's a bit of a hassle to leave your app and rate. Makes all the difference in the world to me though.

I hope you enjoy the "Michael Jordan Episode" aka the Episode 23!

Sep 05, 201822:31
Episode 22 - Rachael Mann
Aug 24, 201822:24
Episode 21 - Jen Molitor
Aug 17, 201833:39
Episode 20 - Jay Billy
Aug 09, 201825:04
Scrum in Middle School? Yup!
Aug 05, 201810:60
Episode 19 - Elisabeth Bostwick

Episode 19 - Elisabeth Bostwick

Author of upcoming book, #LEAPeffect
Maker Mentor for
Co-founder of #LeadUpTeach on Twitter and YouTube
Speaker with Ignite Your S.H.I.N.E.®
Member of the Teacher Advisory Group with the State University of New York
2016 New York State Teacher of Excellence
New York PBS Digital Innovator of 2017
NextGen Leader in Education Award in 2017

Questions You Will Hear Elisabeth Answer on this Episode

-How do we truly empower educators? Students?
-Talk about makerspaces. What should they How do they transition from superficial to substantial?
-What is innovation? Why is it so important ?Would you be willing to share a practical example?
-How do we get parents on board the “innovation train?”
-Look into your crystal ball and tell us what the future looks like and how we get teachers and students ready for it

Where You Can Find Her

Twitter - @elisabostwick
Website -
Jul 27, 201824:58
Episode 17 - Gopika Senthilkumar

Episode 17 - Gopika Senthilkumar

Bioinstrumentation student at University of Wisconsin-Madison Former Inventor's Club President Researcher What you will hear in this episode: - What innovation is & why she is so passionate about it at a relatively young age - How we ensure that we have a culture of innovation rather than just pockets -Why being innovative AND good at the school "game" go hand-in-hand for her -How their makerspace went to solving real problems, rather than just making trinkets -How younger students can be prepared for life AfterEd Also hear about: -Gopika's go-to playlist on her phone -Who she would take to Micky's Dairy Bar -The last book she recommended someone read You can find her on LinkedIn at
Jul 19, 201820:55
Episode 16 - Cath Fraise

Episode 16 - Cath Fraise

Founder & Executive Director, Workspace Education In Episode 16: -What is Workspace? -What is Workspace’s relationship with K-12 schooling? -What is “deeper learning?” How does Workspace get students there? -Why are innovation & entrepreneurship important areas for students of all ages? -My brother-in-law builds schools...we don’t need $40 million building. -How has the “space” of education changed? -Workspace plans for the future? Where to find Cath & Workspace Education: LinkedIn: Workspace Website: Instagram: @workspace_education
Jul 06, 201826:48
Episode 15 - Ashley Hawkins
Jul 02, 201823:04
Episode 14 - Shelly Sanchez

Episode 14 - Shelly Sanchez

Bio, What to Expect, & Where to Find: -Shelly Sanchez Terrell is an international speaker, elearning and digital learning specialist and author -How to “move the needle” on the status quo (i.e. the industrial model of schooling) -Innovation -Why is social important for professional growth? -Superficial vs substance -Getting students ready for the future aka “AfterED”. Url- Blog- Twitter- @ShellTerrell
Jun 28, 201835:48
Episode 13- Natasha Che
Jun 18, 201834:05
Episode 12 - Cheats - RVA Spotlight
Jun 04, 201821:05
Episode 11 - Tom Murray

Episode 11 - Tom Murray

-Proud Husband & Dad -Director of Innovation at Future Ready Schools, Alliance for Excellent Education -Author of Learning Transformed: 8 Keys to Designing Tomorrow’s Schools, Today -2017 “Education Thought Leader of the Year” -2015 “Education Policy Person of the Year” @thomascmurray
May 25, 201838:32
Episode 10 - Ben Gilpin - Be a "disrupter".

Episode 10 - Ben Gilpin - Be a "disrupter".

Principal, Warner Elementary (Michigan, United States) Podcast co-host with Dr. Brad Gustafson called UnearthED Top 100 Influential Voices by BAM Radio Network SIG Admin, MACUL @benjamingilpin on Twitter & Instagram Connect with Ben on LinkedIn Here UnearthED Podcast Link Here
May 15, 201801:05:38
Episode 9 - Jon Harper: "You're good enough just the way you are."

Episode 9 - Jon Harper: "You're good enough just the way you are."

-Assistant Principal in Dorchester County, Maryland
-Nationally board certified teacher
-Student taught in New Zealand. Wow!
-Host of the "My Bad" podcast on BAM Radio Network
-Co-Host of Teacher’s Aid podcast

Find Jon on Twitter @Jonharper70bd
May 01, 201852:29
Episode 8 - Rebecca Chambers
Apr 24, 201844:16
Can A Wearable Change The Game?

Can A Wearable Change The Game?

Check out the behind-the-scenes sounds of my 8th grade innovation class at VCU Siegel Center. They are working on a project attempting to answer the question: “Can A Wearable Change The Game?”

Students tested out sports science equipment (basketball, soccer ball, baseball bat) and will use this information to help improve the performance of an athlete. In addition, they will create a prototype of the wearable, marketing campaign, and Shark-Tank-style pitch for their product.

Check out @innov8HC on YouTube, Twitter, and Instagram to see/hear the presentations.

Apr 13, 201811:55
Episode 7: Barbara Bray - Rethinking Learning
Apr 12, 201850:33
Episode 6 - Anthony Gabriele

Episode 6 - Anthony Gabriele

Listen to Anthony Gabriele, Supervisor for Learning, Development, and Professional Growth for Garnet Valley School District (oustide of Philadelphia, PA). He talks about his journey with @ajjuliani, working with the Penn Literacy Network, how blended learning has changed the game, and his modest love of the Super Bowl champion Philadelphia Eagles.
Apr 03, 201853:51
Episode 5 - The Reeds (Innovation Class Parents)

Episode 5 - The Reeds (Innovation Class Parents)

It's one thing to hear it from me. It's another to hear it from the parents of my students. Listen to The Reed family talk about how an innovation class has made a difference in their son's life. Spoiler alert: it's made a HUGE difference!
Mar 28, 201819:51
Lester & Tre'

Lester & Tre'

First ever student episode!
Listen to two of my 8th graders talk about which team they think will make the NBA Finals, school safety, old school versus new school hip hop, relationships, and life as a teen in 2018.
Mar 19, 201821:39
Episode 4 - Dr. Katrise Perera

Episode 4 - Dr. Katrise Perera

Self-proclaimed lifelong learner and 2015 NASS Superintendent of the Year Award Winner Dr. Katrise Perera sets the record straight on innovation, instruction, and what we need to do to TRULY prepare our students and country for the future.
Mar 11, 201825:22
Episode 3: Don Wettrick (Re-Release)
Mar 01, 201825:59
Episode 2: A.J. Juliani

Episode 2: A.J. Juliani

Author of Launch: Using Design Thinking to Boost Creativity and Bring Out the Maker in Every Student, Empower: What Happens When Students Own Their Learning, Inquiry & Innovation in the Classroom, and Learning By Choice. In addition to being an educational consultant for ISTE and speaker, he is currently the Director of Technology and Innovation for Centennial School District. You can find him at and @ajjuliani on Twitter.
Feb 10, 201817:39
Episode 1: Who Am I Anyways?

Episode 1: Who Am I Anyways?

Students from my 8th grade Innovation class put me on the spot and ask me questions about education, if I could beat my principal in one-on-one, and which family member I would take with me on a deserted island!
Jan 31, 201824:24