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This week, writer and editor Dodai Stewart chats with us about everything from Korean dramas to dating in New York to iPhone games to drug stores in different countries, and more.  Come for insightful commentary on the state of digital media, stay for the puns.

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With the holiday season comes more awkward conversations with family, so we're bringing you an encore episode of our first ever call-in show where you, dear listeners, share with us how you're talking gender, race, politics, and more with your parents, aunties, in-laws, step-siblings, nephews, and more. And guess what: it's really hard! And messy! And you're not alone! We also got our homie Gene Demby of NPR's Code Switch on the line to talk through the now-public email exchange between Margaret Cho and Tilda Swinton about whitewashed Hollywood roles. It's a vintage beef that highlights the ever-relevant question: when will white folks stop making people of color do undue emotional labor?

And come to our Kwanzaa Spectacular live at the Bell House at 8pm on December 8th - get your tickets here. 

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Janelle James stops by the stude to chat with us about her new comedy album, Black and Mild, and we plan Girls Trip 2.  Then we bring you an encore episode featuring an interview with Janelle, the debut of a segment called White Devil's Advocate, and Stacy's Career Corner (during which Tracy finds an unexpected Google result...!).

And come to our Kwanzaa Spectacular live at the Bell House at 8pm on December 8th - get your tickets here.

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This week, we bring to you our conversation with living legend, Jenifer Lewis.  You know her from your favorite sitcoms like Fresh Prince, Girlfriends, and most recently, Black-ish, as well as iconic films like What’s Love Got to Do With It? (playing Angela Bassett’s mother), The Preacher’s Wife (as Whitney Houston’s mom), and Poetic Justice (as Tupac’s mom).  She has a new memoir out, fittingly called The Mother of Black Hollywood.  She chats with us about her illustrious career, navigating bipolar disorder, and learning how to properly self-care.  Plus, she shares with us some valuable insight on whether or not Tom Hanks is a black man, and you might hear her sing a song or three with Tracy (!).  

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This week, professional rabble-rouser Stacy-Marie Ishmael is back in the stude with Stacy's Career Corner. She responds to a range of listener questions, from what to do when you're labelled a "feminazi" at work, to how to handle white male bosses with unchecked power. Plus, we discuss sexual harassment, #MeToo, and fighting back.

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And, because we sold out our December 7th Kwanzaa Spectacular (thank you!), we've added a second Kwanzaa Spectacular live show on December 8th at 8pm at the Bell House. Tickets go on sale on Saturday at noon here: www.thebellhouseny.com. Come see us!



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This week, we bring you our first ever live show from Toronto!  BuzzFeed writer Scaachi Koul reads from her memoir, One Day We'll All Be Dead and None of This Will Matter, then tells us about her trip to the Juggalo March, her DMs from The Rock, and her obsession with Danielle Steele.  Plus, artist Maria Qamar aka HateCopy delves into the colorful world of auntie archetypes that she features in her new book, Trust No Aunty, and helps us answer the seminal question: do white people have family reunions?  

Special thanks to the HotDocs team for organizing such a dope podcast festival.

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We're thrilled to introduce a new podcast hosted by friends-of-the-show Bim Adewunmi and Nichole Perkins. In this inaugural episode, they examine the charms of Southern men. With a little help from Nichole’s friend Cynthia Harris, they jumpstart the conversation looking at the very juicy André 3000 before sifting through portrayals of the South in film and TV. Plus: a battle for fanfiction supremacy in Fanfic Wars—vote early and vote often for your favorite.

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Follow us on Twitter for thirsty GIFs. Bim is @bimadew and Nichole is @tnwhiskeywoman.
Our music is by Tanya Morgan.
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This week, writers and friends of the show Bim Adewunmi and Nichole Perkins tell us about their brand new podcast, Thirst Aid Kit.  They talk Comic-Con, Jeff Goldblum, and why thirst - for women of color in particular - is both fun and important.  

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This week, we bring you an encore episode featuring the return of Men Gotta Do Better (you know how males be), a Southern phrase quiz, and an interview with Tatyana Fazlalizadeh, the artist behind the Stop Telling Women To Smile street art project.  

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This week, we bring you an encore episode featuring Tracy's Animal Corner, Six Degrees of Housing Segregation with Gene Demby of NPR's Code Switch podcast, and an interview with investigative reporter extraordinaire and MacArthur Genius Award winner Nikole Hannah-Jones.  If you're interested in pigeons, pumpkin spice, and affirmative action, this episode is for you.  

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When we found out Los Angeles wasn't hosting any awards shows when we'd be in town (rude), we decided to throw our own - enter, "The Sauce Awards," where we celebrate renaissance woman Quinta Brunson, internet hero Victor Pope Jr., and the one and only Amber Rose!  Quinta talks about her collaboration with Shondaland in the age of Trump, Victor reveals the inspiration for his use of props on Vine, and Amber talks SlutWalk, feminism, ovulation apps, and more.  Come for the sauce, because the sauce is forever. 

And come check out our live show in Toronto - featuring artist HateCopy aka Maria Qamar and writer Scaachi Koul - on Saturday, October 14th at 9:15pm at the Ted Rogers Cinema.  It's a part of the Hot Docs Podcast Festival.  For tickets and more info, go here.

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In honor of Mental Health Awareness Week, we celebrate nature and the rejuvenating qualities of going outside.  Writer Rahawa Haile talks to us about hiking the Appalachian Trail (yup, the whole damn thing) and Kelvin Peña aka Brother Nature himself describes the origins of his YouTube-famous Deer Squad.  Plus, Tracy's mom Velva stops by the stude to tell us about an infamous family fishing trip. 

And come hang with us at our live show in Toronto on October 14th - get tix here!

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This week, Brittany Luse and Eric Eddings of the Gimlet podcast, The Nod, join us for a spirited PewPewPew session.  Brittany comes clean about her longtime use of transitions lenses, Eric explains whether or not casseroles are "good for the blacks," and we all celebrate the literary genius that is Zane.  

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On this week's episode, we bring you our first international live show ever!  We went to London for the Shout Out Live Podcast Festival where we sang the praises of British television (namely Tracy's newfound favorite show, "Embarrassing Bodies").   Then we chatted with writer Bolu Babalola about the beauty of creating dark-skinned black women characters in her stories, and actor Susan Wokoma (of "Chewing Gum" and "Crazyhead") on why she loathes being described as an overnight success.  Plus, a very special joint round from us both.  

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This week we bring you some bonus material celebrating over 100 episodes of Another Round!  First, our fabulous Production Fellows aka Fellies, Agerenesh Ashagre and Alex Laughlin, surprise us with some listener stories.  Then we share with you a special edition of PewPewPew, featuring...you guessed it...us!  And keep listening till the end if you want to hear the evolution of a very integral part of the show...!

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This week we celebrate our 101nst episode!  That's right, the 101nst.  Having made over 100 episodes, we wanted to take some time to reflect on where we've been, what we've learned, and how our airhorn noises have improved (tremendously).  Join us as we interview some very special guests (their names rhyme with Shmeben and Shmacy), and share with you some of our favorite moments from the show.  And we didn't have space to share all the fun stuff we wanted to share with you in this week's episode, so make sure you listen to next week's show for some bonus 101nst celebration conversations. 

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This week, we take some time to process what happened in Charlottesville, and talk about how to persevere in the age of emboldened white supremacy. 

Then we chat with April Ryan, the National Association of Black Journalists' "Journalist of the Year," on twenty years spent in the White House press briefing room. We check in with Vice News DC Bureau Chief Shawna Thomas and BuzzFeed political reporter Darren Sands about how they ask difficult questions and cover news in 2017.

Plus: HaSizzle, New Orleans' legendary bounce artist, reminds us that even in the darkest of times, booty-bouncing is healing. This show was taped live at One Eyed Jacks in New Orleans on August 10, 2017.

Read How To Be A Better Ally: An Open Letter To White Folks

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This week we're bringing you an encore episode featuring friend of the show and OG tech guy, Anil Dash!  First we have a little What Had Happened Was featuring young Heben (and the headaches she gave her parents), followed by a long conversation with Anil Dash about mangoes, representation on screen and in tech, and teaching his son about feminism (with a little tangent about Bee Movie).

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Tracy tells the story about her racist goldfish, and we chat with Audie Cornish, host of NPR's All Things Considered.

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This week we chat with writer and all-American internet guy Matt Bellassai about his new podcast, Unhappy Hour, where he demonstrates how complaining can truly be an art form.  In addition to discussing a variety of bodily functions, Matt reveals his go-to karaoke jams and the genre of Tweet that gets on his last nerve.  And in the spirit of complaining, instead of buying rounds this week, we cut people off.  You're cut off!  Jk, not you personally - come hang!   

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This week, we chat with actor/comedian Sasheer Zamata about trap improv, the wig room at Saturday Night Live, and her new stand-up special on Seeso called "Pizza Mind."  And we answer the question you've been dying to know: what's the whitest opening song lyric of all time?  Plus shout outs to street meats, cheese juice, and hard shells.     

Last but not least...come to our live show in London on August 5th!  For tickets and more information, check out www.solivefestival.com.

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This week, we talk with writer/illustrator/Twitter hero Jonny Sun about his new book, Everyone's a Aliebn When Ur a Aliebn Too, Twitter personas and bot theft, and why his dad loved the Danish Eurodance group, Aqua.  And, back by popular demand, we have for you another rousing game of Y'all's Parents Was Nasty...we're sorry but also, you're welcome.  Plus shoutouts to Heben's favorite condiment and Tracy's beloved hometown heroes. 

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This week, as a part of WBEZ’s Podcast Passport series, we bring to you our live show from Thalia Hall in Chicago!  Dr. Eve Ewing, sociologist extraordinaire, schools us on why poetry is not a luxury (shout out to Audre Lorde!), and plays a lil game we like to call Six Degrees of Education Policy.  Let it be noted that she plays this game like a BOSS.  Then we go with poet and vocalist Jamila Woods to the First Corinthian Leather Church of God and Christ in Obama - may we all be saved - and she tells us how she found her voice.  Plus, Tracy's Joke Time and a celebration of petty jams!

Special thanks to the WBEZ Events team of Tyler Greene, MK Julien, Ashley Thorpe, and Haley Carlson.  And thanks to the Thalia Hall crew of Pete Falknor, Jake Samuels, Tim Schoen, and Miranda Van Aiken.  We appreciate y'all!

And shout out to Kwame Brandt-Pierce for the dope church music. 

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This week, we invite writers Doreen St. Felix and Durga Chew-Bose to join us for a playful and pensive round of PewPewPew with Friends! We talk about Doreen’s New York Magazine cover story on Kara Walker (read it if you haven’t already!), and Durga’s new book, Too Much and Not the Mood (it's exquisite).  We study Heben’s perfect laugh, celebrate porch life, and figure out why white girls in the 90s all wanted to be marine biologists.  Plus we might even learn you a Gmail hack that will change your life…! 

ALSO: get tickets to see our podsiblings from BuzzFeed News and See Something Say Something at the Northside Festival!!  Tickets here: northsidereport2017.eventbrite.com

And don't forget: our next live show is in Chicago - June 21st at 8pm at Thalia Hall.  Get your tickets at wbez.org/events.

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This week we chat with Marcus Samuelsson - Top Chef, Red Rooster restauranteur, and maker of the world's finest mac & cheese (we've tried it...it's reallll good).  He dishes about Ikea meatballs, the flavors of Harlem, and answers Heben's hard-hitting question: is aioli really just gentrified mayo?  Plus, Tracy brings us a What Had Happened Was from her days as a college activist/troll for justice.  And rounds for furniture and just one thing - you know the one...not that one...thaaaat one.  You should probably listen to find out what the hell we're talking about. And we'd love to see you at our next live show in Chicago on June 21st at Thalia Hall!

ALSO: get tickets to see our podsiblings from BuzzFeed News and See Something Say Something at the Northside Festival!!  Tickets here: northsidereport2017.eventbrite.com.

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This week we bring to you the magic of our live show at NYC's PodFest!  We talk to writer and thirst correspondent Bim Adewunmi, denounce some things with comedian Negin Farsad, and even play a game with our pod brother, Ahmed Ali Akbar of the See Something Say Something podcast.  Plus, shout outs to being someone's person and Beyonce.com!

And we'd love to see you at our next live show in Chicago on June 21st at Thalia Hall!

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This week, we're bringing you a vintage episode with our very talented in-house musician, Jean Grae.  She chats with us about being a woman of many hats and why she can't get behind the term "femcee."  Then we try some dating apps - not at all because our love lives could use a lil boost, but instead strictly for, you know, podcast research.  Really.  You believe us, right?

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This week, we're trying something a little different: we team up with our friends at WNYC's Only Human podcast to find Tracy's roots. Growing up in Louisville, Kentucky, she always heard that her ancestors were, in her mother's words, "black, white and American Indian." But, like many black Americans, she's found it hard to trace her family heritage with ancestors forced into the American slave trade. So Tracy turns to DNA ancestry tests, and experts on DNA and race, to find out where she comes from. 

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Fresh Prince alum Karyn Parsons stops by the stude to chat with us about Sweet Blackberry, her non-profit that makes educational materials for kids featuring lesser known stories of black excellence.  Plus, What Had Happened Was is back, with Tracy’s Lyft driver from hell.  Come to find out if Carlton would have been a Trump supporter, stay to find out who was banned from The Underground Railroad Museum and Roscoe’s Chicken and Waffles.   

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Shoutout to Mozart (via YouTube user classicalmusicplace here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67-2pIXBNEw) for scoring Tracy's tweets with Violin Concerto No. 5 in A (second movement).

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This week, we take you back to our live show at SXSW!  First, Heben debuts her conspiracy theory that Donald Trump's entire presidential career is inspired by KFC.  Then, back by popular demand, is the return of Tracy's Joke Time.  Finally, the radiant and talented Lizzo chats with us about growing up religious, collaborating with Prince, and being body positive.  If you need a pick-me-up this week, put your headphones on and sit back - we gotchu.

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We never thought we'd do a single episode on both outer space and sexual assault, but that's because we hadn't met activist and aspiring astronaut Amanda Nguyen yet. She founded the organization Rise, to advocate for the rights of survivors of rape.

Did you know that in some states, untested rape kits can be thrown away after 30 days? Amanda tells us how legislation reflects rape culture, and how we can change this. When she's not busy fighting, Amanda is preparing herself for space travel. (Yup!) We talk about who we'd want to beam into the beyond, and remember that even in the darkest of times in this universe, we're never alone because we have each other. 

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This week, an exclusive, extra-long conversation with the one and only Remy Ma! She came by the women's club The Wing and opened up about her pregnancy struggles, the music business, the prison system and of course the thing everybody wants to know about: her Nicki Minaj diss track "shETHER." Nothing was off-limits and the all-women crowd at The Wing was here for it. 

We were especially honored to have a group of young women from the WomanHOOD project in the audience. WomanHOOD is a feminist leadership and media literacy organization for youth from the Bronx, where Remy's from! So sit back and enjoy, because the tea was hot and shit got real. 

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This week, we chat with Emmy and Peabody award-winning writer/comedian Jordan Peele about his directorial debut, “Get Out.”  Spoiler alert!  There are spoilers!  But we try to give you a heads up before, and also, if you haven’t seen the movie already, what are you doing with your life?!?  Come for Jordan’s take on the social thriller as a way to build empathy - especially in America's fucked up racial climate - and stay for his delightful appreciation of the man, the myth, the legend: Reginald VelJohnson.  Plus, shoutouts to nail polish, Marie Kondo, and getting through a long-ass week.

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Merch is back! Tees! Totes! They're so cute: shop.buzzfeed.com

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And check out the trap beat in today's episode here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYxezVsMDDw 

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Trump's Executive Order had so many in the streets this past weekend. With so much on our minds and hearts, we invite friends Ahmed Ali Akbar (host of our sibling podcast See Something Say Something) and Bim Adewunmi, reporter extraordinaire, to chat with us about Muslim identity and resistance.

Plus, an Iranian man whose in-laws were detained at JFK airport walks us through the experience, and a pair of civil rights lawyers offer tips on how you can help if you're feeling helpless.

Follow Ahmed Ali Akbar at @radbrowndads and Bim Adewunmi at @bimadew.  Catch up on episodes of See Something Say Something at buzzfeed.com/seesomethingsaysomething.

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Resources from the See Something Say Something excerpt:

Zahra Billoo is a civil rights lawyer and community organizer who leads the California chapter of  the Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR). Follow her at @ZahraBilloo.

Ramzi Kassem is a professor of Law at CUNY School of Law, where he directs the CLEAR project, which stands for “creating law enforcement accountability and responsibility.” Follow his work at @CUNY_CLEAR.

Here's the infographic Ahmed mentions: CLEAR's Guidance on the Executive Order.

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We revisit our episode from early 2016 featuring clapbacks, "rememberlutions," and the great Margaret Cho.

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