
Australian Design Radio
By Australian Design Radio

Australian Design RadioJan 16, 2022

Ep139 Ve Dewey (Adobe MAX21)
Our last episode on positivity (as part of Adobe MAX 2021) has Sumita and Matt talking with Ve Dewey in London about how she’s remained positive in her squiggly-line career.
Ve has worked for Adobe, Mattel, ReDesign Business and most recently as co-creator for Never Not Creative. In this discussion we look at how she ended up in London, being a ‘servant-leader’ and how the design industry still needs to grow up.
As always, a big thank you to Streamtime, our supporting partner, always finding ways to give back to the Australian design industry. Please give them a try at streamtime.net
Links
Ve's website: https://www.vedewey.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/vandewcandew/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/vandewcandew
Articles and podcasts by Ve: https://nevernotcreative.org/posts/tag/Ve+Dewey
Siddhartha by Hermann Hesse: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siddhartha_(novel)

Ep138 Kris Andrew Small (Adobe MAX21)
Our Adobe MAX21 mini-series rolls on with co-host, Sumita Maharaj interviewing Kris Andrew Small on his backstory, how his process is changing and what it means to be a role model for younger creatives.
Having worked for many large clients like Nike, Apple, Adidas, Channel 4, WeTransfer, Reebok and more, he’s also exhibited internationally at institutions like V&A and The Louvre. Yes, that’s right folks, The Louvre.
Make you check out his talks at Adobe MAX, where he’s doing a number of different sessions. Details in the show links below.
As always, a big thank you to Streamtime, our supporting partner, always giving moments of joy to the Australian design industry. Give them a try at streamtime.net
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Links
Kris’s website: https://krisandrewsmall.com/home
Adobe MAX 2021: https://max.adobe.com/speakers/
MTS9 - Meet the MAX Speaker: Kris Andrew Small: https://portal.adobe.com/widget/adobe/am21/sessions?search=MTS9
MB111 - CJ Hendry: Creative Inspiration (with Kris): https://portal.adobe.com/widget/adobe/am21/sessions?search=MB111
Kris Insta: https://www.instagram.com/krisandrewsmall/?hl=en
The Bloom by TDC. Ep 01: Jo Hook and Kris Andrew Small: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMp4DG1rzSQ
Ocean Bottle: https://oceanbottle.co/pages/earth-day
Kris Interview on The design Kids: https://thedesignkids.org/interviews/kris-andrew-small/
Streamtime: https://streamtime.net/adr2020

Ep137 Josie Young (Adobe MAX21)
1st episode in a new mini-series based on Adobe MAX and their 2021 theme of positivity. Co-host Sumita Maharaj interviews Josie Young about her work, living with chronic illness and stepping away from Christopher Doyle & Co. to start her own thing.
Go here to listen.
Make sure you tune into her presentation at Adobe MAX, aptly titled, ‘Notes on Invisible Illness and Making Work Work for You’ available live Thursday, Oct 283:30 PM - 4:00 PM AEDT and check out Josie’s new site to see her amazing work.
As always, a big thank you to Streamtime, our supporting partner, always trying to give back to the Australian design industry. Give them a try at streamtime.net
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Links
Design Atlas 012: Josie Young: Staying positive in difficult times
Adobe LIVE: Branding: The Exploration Before the Presentation with Josie Young
Adobe LIVE: Branding: The Presentation After the Exploration with Josie Young
Sydney Design Festival — International Women’s Day “Gentlemen Welcome” — Josie Young

Ep136 REISSUE Jo & Jason (For The People)
I really love doing ReIssue episodes. Pulling old soundbites and getting original guests to comment on them — it’s like digging up a time capsule.
This episode we have Jo Roca and Jason Little from For The People looking at our 5th episode. Jo was just ‘the girlfriend’ and Jason had just opened a studio with two mates. In the time between, FTP has gone on to become one of Australia's most awarded agencies, recently named 4th in D&AD design studio polls.
It hasn’t all been smooth sailing though. Jo and Jas are the first to admit their mistakes and the roads they wished they’d not taken. In this very frank and honest episode, we look back at the ups and downs of running a business and why they never stop learning and trying to improve.
As always, a big thank you to Streamtime, our supporting partner. Give them a try at streamtime.net

Ep135 Olivia & Sam (Studio ChenChen)
This is our final episode in the mini series on ‘how design can help combat stigma’ with co-host, Myla Yeomans. This time we have the pleasure of talking with Olivia Chen and Sam Wearne about the work they do with Studio ChenChen.
We spend a bit of time talking about Chattii, a dating app that prioritises humanity and safety in rejecting the stigma of disability and letting all people find love. This project really sums up Studio ChenChen nicely, where they really immerse themselves in understanding the client and what their needs are. It’s rare that you meet a design team that integrates themselves so completely in their clients. As Olivia says, they effectively become in-house designers.
As always, a big thank you to Streamtime, our supporting partner, a constant rock to the Australian design industry. Give them a try at streamtime.net
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Links
Studio ChenChen https://studiochenchen.com/
Chattii website https://www.chattii.com/
Studio ChenChen Instagram https://www.instagram.com/studiochenchen/
The Design Kids interview with Olivia: https://vimeo.com/582332826
Streamtime: https://streamtime.net/

Ep134 Peter Brennan (Electric & Analog/Heaps Normal)
This is our 2nd episode in a mini-series that looks at how design can help combat stigma.
For this episode we are again at the Design Conference in Brisbane, sitting on the turbine hall stage chatting with Peter Brennan, Founder & Creative Director of Electric & Analog and co-founder and head of brand for non-alcoholic beer Heaps Normal.
Pete has had an amazing career, right across the globe, from art directing for Quicksilver in South Africa, directing innovation at ATOMIC 212° in Australia and working at top agencies in the UK, he has had a wide range of experience across all parts of the industry.
It was through a few discussions that we thought Pete would be perfect for this mini-series, specifically around the role that Heaps Normal is taking in the alcohol category, where they are promoting mindful drinking, being conscious about what’s normal for you and trying to promote a sustainable change to Australia’s drinking habits. Their ad this July really caught a lot of attention where they suggested doing your best, cutting back, rather than complete abstinence — acknowledging that different things work for different people.
As always, a big thank you to Streamtime, our supporting partner, always finding ways to lift up the Australian design industry. Give them a try at streamtime.net

Ep133 Keisha Leon (Leon Design)
The start of a new mini-series, where co-host, Myla Yeomans, asks the question, ‘how can design help combat stigma?’
In this first episode, we speak to Keisha Leon, Founder and Director at Leon Design. Keisha cut her teeth in magazine design before taking up a senior position at Lorna Jane. In 2018 she moved to Carbon Creative before deciding it was time to do her own thing.
Being a Waanyi and Kalkadoon woman, Leon Design is a First Nations owned and operated creative consultancy, specialising in conceptual design. We get into the what, why and how in the interview.
As always, a big thank you to Streamtime, our supporting partner, consistently giving back to the Australian design industry. Give them a try at www.streamtime.net
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Links
Leon: www.leondesign.co
Keisha LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keisha-leon/
Cancer Australia: https://leondesign.co/projects/cancer-australia/
Family Planning: https://leondesign.co/projects/family-planning-nsw/
Streamtime: https://streamtime.net/

Ep132 REISSUE Christopher Doyle (Christopher Doyle & Co.)
This time we’re doing something a little different, with our first ReIssue. This means rewinding to an old episode, pulling out a few soundbites, and getting the original guest to comment on them.
The original guest in question is Christopher Doyle who joined us way back at the start, on our 2nd show. Chris has been an ADR guest a few times so it was a real pleasure to talk with him and explore what’s changed in the 130 episodes since we first recorded.
We cover the growth and success, but also how he’s needed to scale back to find his happiness again. Chris is, as always, extremely honest and open and it’s a fascinating look into what’s next for him and the studio he’s spent so long building.
As always, a big thank you to Streamtime, our supporting partner. Give them a try at streamtime.net

Ep131 Nicki Wragg (Swinburne)
In our last episode with Co-host, Stephanie Foti, and her mini-series on ‘what makes a great designer teacher,’ Steph and Matt talk to Nicki Wragg, the Chair of Communication Design at Swinburne University of Technology in Melbourne.
If you work in design education in Australia, there is a good chance you’ve come across Nicki. She is a leader in the field of teaching design and, as you’ll hear, has been doing it for more than two decades. One of the things she’s best known for is leading the team that managed to get Swinburne's Design course online. A momentous task that allowed people all over the world to experience that renowned course. She inspires both her students and her colleagues. And, has been a huge advocate for increasing the public's awareness of the value of design.
As always, a big thank you to Streamtime, our supporting partner—always giving back to the Australian design industry. Give them a try at streamtime.net At the beginning of the episode Andy Wright mentions an article where he spoke to Blair Enns, find it here.

Ep130 Felix Oppen (Tiliqua Press & Ligature Journal)
Part two in ‘what makes a great design teacher’ and this time, Matt and co-host, Stephanie Foti, are talking to Felix Oppen from Tiliqua Press and Tiliqua Studio, makers of the award-winning Ligature Journal.
Felix has taught in Universities for over 10 years and has a passion for teaching traditional techniques, specifically where type is involved. He’s concerned with making sure students understand the knowledge, but more importantly, are able to use it. And this is why he’s gravitated to teaching people in his studio, on the letterpresses, so they can get their hands dirty and smell the ink.
As always, a big thank you to Streamtime, our supporting partner, always finding ways to give back to the Australian design industry. Give them a try with a 20% discount, you won't be sorry you did.

Ep129 Frankie Ratford (Designer Bootcamps)
And we’re back! We’ve had a bit of a break while we started new full-time work, parented, and thought about what the future of ADR might look like. One of the big changes we’ve made is a new format that explores one topic over three episodes with three different guests.
On this episode, Matt is joined by Stephanie Foti to interview our favourite creative nomad, Frankie Ratford. We explore the question, ‘what makes a great design teacher,’ a perfect question for Frankie who has been holding Designers Bootcamps all around the world, allowing people to question what it is they want from their career and hit the reset button if they need to.
As always, a big thank you to Streamtime, our supporting partner, always finding ways to give back to the Australian design industry. Give them a try with a 20% discount, you won't be sorry you did.
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Frankie’s website / Frankie’s Insta / Designer’s Bootcamp / The Design Kids / The Aframe

Ep128 with Joyce N Ho
If you had to describe what Joyce does, which is incredibly diverse, you’d probably settle on creative direction and motion design, but we’d suggest going and checking out her personal website, joycenho.com — just to see the range of stuff she’s been involved in.
Many people in Australia will know her from her time at JosephMark and Breeder in Brisbane, where she started as a junior designer working her way up to creative lead before leaving for New York. Joyce’s position at Buck is pretty new when we recorded this interview, so we chat a little about how different it is from her freelancing gigs, of which she is best known for and has been doing in the States for nearly five years. We also have a chance to delve into some of her projects for Riot Games, Patriot Act and Semi Permanent.
As always, a big thank you to Streamtime, our supporting partner, not just for the support they give us but for the support they give the whole Australian design industry. Give them a try at streamtime.net/adr2020 and get a 20% discount just for being an ADR listener.
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Links
Joyce Web: www.joycenho.com/
Insta: www.instagram.com/joyce.n.ho/
Vimeo: vimeo.com/joycenho
Joyce’s artwork: vsual.co/shop/joycenho
Linkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/joycenho/
Buck: buck.co/
SP Workshop: www.schoolofmotion.com/workshops/abstraction-meets-radical-collaboration
Breeder: breederstudio.com/
JosephMark: www.josephmark.com.au/
Streamtime: streamtime.net/adr2020

Ep127 with James (Gilmore) Duru
This episode we focused on James, how he and DesignStudio ended up in Australia, his thoughts on leadership in design, what he thinks about the Australian design scene and why he’s passionate about teaching the next generation of designers.
As always, a big thank you to Streamtime, our supporting partner, always trying to give back to the Australian design industry. Give them a try at streamtime.net
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Links
DesignStudio: design.studio/
LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/james-duru-559a9912/
Semi-P: semipermanent.com/profiles/james-gilmore-semi-permanent-design-festival-2018
5 Things I wasn’t Taught at Uni: www.shillingtoneducation.com/blog/5-things-wasnt-taught-uni-james-gilmore/
Streamtime: streamtime.net/

Ep126 with Sam Bucolo
Sam is based in Brisbane and it was during a lockdown so apologies in advance for the bad audio quality. What we spoke about was amazing though, everything from what Sam’s PhD was all about, to his book about design leading the way and of course The Australian Design Council, why it’s been reformed and what they are planning to do with it.
Sam has an absolute wealth of knowledge in design and where it fits in within Australia. So, expect a number of tangents that focus on how we can help raise the value of design in the eyes of the public and decision makers.
As always, a big thank you to Streamtime, our supporting partner, helping keep the lights on in these strange times. Give them a try at streamtime.net
Links
Streamtime: streamtime.net/
Australian Design Council: australiandesigncouncil.org/
Are we there yet book: www.bispublishers.com/are-we-there-yet.html
Good Design Australia: good-design.org/about/design-council/

EP125 with Dan Agostino
Hailing from Perth, Dan joined The Brand Agency in 2007 and over the years his role has grown to Head of Design. The 150+ people agency has offices in Perth, Melbourne and Auckland and covers project management, creative and design, content and production, brand activation, PR and social, technology, media, search and analytics, strategy, UX and CX.
We spoke with Dan about the design scene in Perth and dove into some of the stand out projects they have launched including Active Armidale and the brilliant Hungry Puffs campaign for Foodbank. Dan speaks candidly about the purpose of the projects and also how and why they help deliver economic growth, opportunity, health and stability to society.
We hope you enjoy this first episode of ADR in 2021 brought to you by our friends at Streamtime. Support the podcast by supporting our one and only partner. If you haven’t tried it before, see how Streamtime can help you run things more efficiently. streamtime.net
Links:
Dan Agostino
www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-agostino
www.brandagency.com.au
Mentions:
Hungry puffs www.brandagency.com.au/perth/work/2020/hungry-puffs-foodbank
www.brandagency.com.au
www.brandagency.com.au/Perth/work/2019/the-city-of-armadale-active-armdale
www.brandagency.com.au/perth/brand-xp
streamtime.net/blog/10-tips-and-tricks-in-streamtime
www.adobe.com/max/2020/sessions/why-your-workplace-culture-is-probably-killing-you-od5132.html
ADR
www.facebook.com/ausdesignradio
bit.ly/youtubeadr
soundcloud.com/ausdesignradio
open.spotify.com/show/3lmn16MGbEdG31jbpYmebY
ausdesignradio.com

EP124 with Ros Moriarty
Their work includes everything from branding and digital products to curating public art and cultural design principles. They believe in location-specific relationships and outcomes, leading them to work with and engage Aboriginal stakeholders across the nation. This puts them in a very authentic position, being able to communicate legacy of place — something that has been ignored for too long in modern Australian society.
In this discussion, we dig into Ros’ background and how she moved from journalism to design, the meeting of John and being accepted into his family. We look in-depth at the studios offerings and consider how much has changed, but also, how much further we have to go in increasing Australia’s understanding of its First People.
As always, a big thank you to Streamtime, our supporting partner, helping keep the lights on in these strange times. Give them a try at streamtime.net
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Links
Balarinji: www.balarinji.com.au
Ros’ website: www.rosmoriarty.com.au
Ros’ publishers site: allenandunwin.com/authors/m/ros-moriarty
Ros Twitter: twitter.com/RosMoriarty
Ros LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/rosmoriarty
Moriarty Foundation: www.moriartyfoundation.org.au
Balarinji art and design collection: www.nma.gov.au/explore/collection/highlights/balarinji
Streamtime: streamtime.net
SBS Inclusion Program: inclusion-program.com.au

EP123 with Monique Kneepkens
We speak all about what it means to ‘do good’ and how they work with their clients. We look at shining a spotlight on indigenous artists and designers and how Australians can get more in touch with the real history of this beautiful island.
So prepare yourself from some slightly delayed laughter (as the stream catches up) and a difference in the microphone sound — thank you to Monique for being so patient.
Big thanks as always to our amazing partner Streamtime for keeping us going through tough times. Try Streamtime: streamtime.net
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Links
Carbon Creative web: www.carbon-creative.com.au
Carbon Creative FaceBook: www.facebook.com/carboncreativeau
Carbon Creative Instagram: instagram.com/carboncreativeau/
Monique LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/monique-kneepkens-90b09920/
Fries Need Mayonaise: friesneedmayonnaise.com
SBS Inclusion Program: inclusion-program.com.au/
AGDA QLD Design That Gives a F*ck!: www.agda.com.au/news/design-that-gives-a-f-ck-speaker-monique-kneepkens
Mirella at Vertigo: studiovertigo.com.au/
Mirella at Womentor: womentor.com.au/
Matt at Foundry LIVE: vimeo.com/myfoundry

EP122 with Michael Wong
We also delve into Michael's past and look at the experiences that formed Mizko. Growing up, somewhat of an outsider, we were keen to understand where his incredible energy and motivation came from. It’s a great story of never-ending optimism and seeing the opportunity in everything.
As always, much love to Streamtime — we love you guys. If you haven’t tried them out, do it now. Unsurprisingly, they were shortlisted for this year's Webbys. We have our fingers and toes crossed. ADR listeners get a special discount by following this link: streamtime.net/adr2020
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Links
Raw Studio: raw.studio
Raw on Dribble: dribbble.com/rawstudio
Raw on LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/rawstudioco
Raw on Twitter: twitter.com/rawstudioco
Mizko: www.mizko.net
Mizko on Insta: www.instagram.com/mizko
Mizko on Twitter: twitter.com/mizko
Streamtime: streamtime.net/
Streamtime Webby: streamtime.net/vote-for-streamtime-at-the-webbys

EP121 with Andrew Hochradel
Andrew is a brand identity designer from Los Angeles, CA, who creates visual systems that are sustainable, innovative, and engaging. He's often found speaking, teaching and entertaining at physical and online events like Adobe Live, CreativeMornings, Creative South and Circles.
Andrew's ability to entertain and teach is what got us talking in the first place, and this episode is no departure, we spoke about teaching online vs the classroom, stirring up creativity in others, semiotics, emu's and more.
Thanks to Streamtime for keeping ADR going especially during these unprecedented times! ADR listeners get a special discount if you use the following link streamtime.net/adr2020
andrewhochradel.com
dribbble.com/HochDotCo
www.behance.net/hochdotco
hoch.co/canceledcon
www.nevernotcreative.org/posts/research-covid-effects-study

EP120 with Nick Moir
Known as the ‘fire guy’, Nick has built a reputation on capturing award-winning imagery and being in the right place, at the right time. He passes it off as being lucky, but the passion of his descriptions and depth of his research suggests it's more about his genuine commitment and love of the profession.
Beginning at SMH at the tender age of 17, Nick co-founded the Oculi collective with other well-known documentary photographers. We look at why a group like this was needed and how it has evolved through the evolution of the web and social media. We touch on storm chasing and end up discussing the fires that dominated headlines at the end of 2019. Hearing Nick relate the experience gives you an insight into an event we shouldn’t soon forget. If you haven’t seen his work we’d suggest you check it out while you are listening to get the full experience.
Thank you to Streamtime for making ADR episodes happen, try it out and get a discount at streamtime.net/adr2020
Links:
Nick’s website: www.nickmoirphoto.com/
Nick Insta: www.instagram.com/nampix/
Oculi website: www.oculi.com.au/
SMH stories and features: www.smh.com.au/by/nick-moir-h10ewz
TAKE Magazine: www.instagram.com/take_magazine/
Great video of Nick talking through his shots: www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUFvFtNRMzY

EP119 with Alex Skougarevskaya
Alex has had just about every job title designer can have, from her start as a 'graphics monkey' to a 'speck' in the big world of Advertising before the Global Financial Crisis. She's been a web, visual, graphic and interactive designer before moving her way over to Atlassian.
We spoke to Alex in the lead up to her talk at NoBs conference where she'll be talking about the Atlassian Design System, so we spoke a bit about working with teams around the world to her new adventure moving to San Francisco.
We spoke about getting things done, which is what Streamtime does for us! If you don't already use Streamtime give it a go for free over at streamtime.net/adr2020
Heading to the NoBS conference? Use the link below for a special ADR discount at checkout events.humanitix.com/no-bs-conference?discountcode=ADR
twitter.com/skougs
www.linkedin.com/in/alexskougarevskaya
www.atlassian.com/team-playbook

EP118 with Tegan Wotton
Tegan has an interesting career path which we get stuck into straight away, growing up in the bush has given her a strong connection to her home and what the idea of home can be. Unsurprisingly she has found herself working with a band of likeminded designers at Space Between Melbourne, where is the design director.
Outside of her design role, she also co-hosts the Melbourne chapter of Ladies Wine Design, we touch on the importance of networks and space like this for women and non-binary people and spent some time talking about Eat Town, another side project of hers. Eat town is dedicated to cataloguing the best places in China town to eat. She even has a ramen tattoo.
Hosting this episode was Matt Leach and Flyn Tracy.
Support is thanks to our friends at Streamtime. Try it for free and if you like it use this link to get a discount: streamtime.net/adr2020
Links
www.instagram.com/eat_town
ladieswinedesign.com
spacebetween.com.au
www.carolynfraser.com/about
thedesignkids.org/interviews/space-between
Australian Charities for Bush Fire Appeal
www.redcross.org.au
www.wildlifevictoria.org.au
www.wilderness.org.au
www.wires.org.au
www.gofundme.com/f/fire-relief-fund-for-first-nations-communities

EP117 with Johanna Matt and Flyn
It’s that time of the year when everyone is winding down for Christmas… who are we kidding, everyone is frantically trying to get things finished before the enforced shut down. Either way, the ADR crew decided to sit down and chew the fat (as a vegetarian, Matt finds that somewhat offensive), review the year, pinpoint highlights and favourite interviews, before looking forward to what 2020 might bring. Can you believe it’s nearly 2020?!
We also just wanted to say thank you, to the listeners, for all the great support you’ve given us throughout this year. 2019 was a big period of growth for ADR with new presenters coming onboard, Johanna fixing our social and generally just getting better at running a podcast. All the feedback and suggestions we’ve received have been amazing. Keep it coming.
A massive thank you to Streamtime as well. Longtime supporters and friends of ADR, it’s been wonderful to have them involved for so long. If you’re new to Streamtime use this link to get an ADR discount: streamtime.net/adr2020
Links:
www.instagram.com/johanna_aneman
www.instagram.com/matt_leach
www.instagram.com/flyntracy
www.streamtime.net/adr2020
www.interbrand.com/au/work/g-ay-mate

EP116 with Craig Black
In this episode, we spoke with Craig Black a graphic designer, lettering artist and typographer.
Craig is Scottish born and after spending some time in London, he currently runs his own design studio in Gourock, Scotland. He has a diverse style and doesn’t seem to be tied down to any single medium or aesthetic. This has led to an impressive list of clients from all over the globe and a growing list of speaking gigs. Also, he’s just a great guy.
Quite early on Craig talks about how he feels it’s his responsibility to be helping others achieve their goals and encourages people to be proud of their achievements whatever they are. The culture of overtime, his approach to work-life balance and switching off. A big believer in positive affirmations, Craig talks about the value in congratulating yourself more in your work and for personal and professional achievements.
We spoke about how much people connect with artists and designers who put themselves within their work and the value of community including Craig’s initiative in Scotland called Creative Inverclyde, working with prisoners and the value of creativity.
Hosting this episode was Prue Jones and Flyn Tracy. Thank you AGDA for hooking us up with Craig Black during his speaking tour.
Support is thanks to our friends at Streamtime. Try it for free and if you like it use this link to get a discount: streamtime.net/adr2020
Links
craigblackdesign.com
www.linkedin.com/in/craig-black-28a89968
www.instagram.com/_craigblack
www.creativeinverclyde.com/team
www.instagram.com/prudencemjones
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gourock

EP115 with Andrew Ashton
When it comes to the Australian design industry, there are few as supportive and as accomplished as Andrew Ashton. Across his 30+ professional years, he has consistently advocated on behalf of Aussie creatives and built an international reputation that has seen him awarded many times over. At 34, Andrew was made one of the youngest members of the prestigious Alliance Graphique Internationale, at that time, only the 8th Australian to be invited.
Andrew is great to talk to. Conversations with him tend to roam all over the creative landscape. His experience and thoughtful insight give a unique perspective on what is occurring in the industry. In this episode we dig into his past, look at design in the internet age and talk about what it means to be an Australian creative.
As a testament to his practice, Andrew raised the bar for our guests by turning up with a song playlist, an original poster and three poems that covered the main chapters of the episode. We got him to read the poems on air and they are definitely worth digging into to discover their meanings.
It was a real honour to sit and chat with Andrew, we hope you enjoy it as much as we did. As always, we’d love to hear your thoughts.
Thanks again to Streamtime, longtime supporters of ADR. If you’re new to Streamtime use this link to get an ADR discount: streamtime.net/adr2020
Links:
Work Art Life: www.workartlife.com
Power House Project: www.workartlife.com/project/powerhouse
Nite Art: www.niteart.com.au
Andrew on AGI: a-g-i.org/user/Andrew/view/projects
Work Art Life Insta: www.instagram.com/workartlife
Behance: www.behance.net/byworkartlife
LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/thinkingbyandrewashton
People Things Blog: peoplethings.com
Future underground people: peoplethings.com/andblog
Neo Koala: neokoala.com
Paper Tiger Exhibition: nas.edu.au/events/exhibition-paper-tigers

EP114 with Nick Gower and Saakshi Muralidhar
Mentally friendly is a group in Sydney that works with health, education, finance, and government to deliver wellbeing at scale. Nick is one of the founders of the business and an advisor to senior product leaders and clients, Saakshi is a senior organisational designer who started her career in product design, you’ll hear some of her journey in the episode.
Both Flyn and Matt have a long history with Mentally Friendly, Matt has known the founders, Nick and Jon longer from time spent at Billy Blue College of Design back in the day and Flyn worked with them on Tractor Design School. Don’t bother googling it, it doesn’t exist more. Wah.
We spoke about design and innovation, operational design, moving from task-based design to more team-based missions and ‘making good intentions real’ as Nick put it so well. We heard about Mentally Friendly’s hiring process where they look for softer skills rather than hard skills and often find applicants are better suited to roles they haven’t even thought of, which was backed up nicely by Saakshi’s story.
We hope you like the episode, let us know what you think!
Big thanks to Streamtime for their support. If you’re new to Streamtime use this link to get an ADR discount streamtime.net/adr2020
Links
mentallyfriendly.com
www.linkedin.com/in/nickgowermf
www.linkedin.com/in/saakshi
Nick Gower in episode 12 soundcloud.com/ausdesignradio/ep12-nick-gower-on-finding-opportunity-in-the-midst-of-chaos
www.mentally-healthy.org
The Paul Rand quote is “Don’t try to be original, just try to be good.” Flyn 0 – Paul Rand 1 www.logodesignlove.com/paul-rand-video

EP113 with Joe Macleod
With a 20+ year career in product design, both digital and tangible, Joe has a wealth of experience in UX and HCD. During his time at Nokia and as Head of Design at UsTwo, Joe became concerned about the end of the customer journey and started a campaign to make off-boarding as important as on-boarding. This ultimately led him to write a book called ‘Ends.’ and launch the World's first customer ending consulting business: ‘andEnd.’
In Joe’s own words, focusing on the end may seem counterintuitive and a hard sell to a client that is all about shipping product. So, throughout this episode, we unpack why ‘clean and considered endings’ should be seen as a competitive advantage, not as a barrier to sale. Joe has spent over 15 years thinking about this and has case studies galore but we also find time to relive the early days of UsTwo, when Nokia was the king of phones and how a “profoundly” dyslexic person went about writing a book.
Special thanks to our friends Streamtime for their ongoing support. Check them out at www.streamtime.net/adr2020 to get an exclusive 20% listener discount!
Links:
andEnd. www.andend.co
Twitter: twitter.com/mrmacleod
LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/josephmacleod
Ends. in print: www.amazon.com.au/Ends-Overlook-Products-Services-Shouldnt/dp/9163936445
Ends. in Audible: www.audible.com.au/pd/Ends-Why-We-Overlook-Endings-for-Humans-Products-Services-and-Digital-and-Why-We-Shouldnt-Audiobook/B07NJD1TCB
Include Design Twitter: twitter.com/IncludeDesign
UsTwo: www.ustwo.com
UX Australia: www.uxaustralia.com.au/conferences/ux-australia-2019/speaker/joe-macleod-2019/

EP112 with Chi Ryan
Chi Ryan makes meaningful products, services and experiences for humans, and humanity — and she’s passionate about empowering others to do the same. She has worked with many of the big names in service design including Fjord, Isobar and Idean and she is now the experience strategy lead at PwC.
We talked about Ancient Egypt and Graham Hancock, using video and motion to communicate, teaching and learning, the circular economy and how we can wake people up to think differently. Chi also shared The Circular Design Program and highlighted the responsibility designers have towards fighting to eradicate industrial waste and pollution.
Special thanks to our friends Streamtime for their ongoing support. Check them out at streamtime.net. Get a free account. Try them out. It'll be time well spent.
Links:
grahamhancock.com
Do What You Can’t
www.youtube.com/watch?v=jG7dSXcfVqE
Jodorowsky’s Dune Trailer www.youtube.com/watch?v=jg4OCeSTL08
Jodorowsky meets Kanye West www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7Qdc2ggPHc
The Circular Design Program
www.dezeen.com/2019/06/11/ellen-macarthur-circular-economy-designers/
Kaching Film
kachingfilm.com

EP111 with Steve Baty
Let’s just get this out of the way, Steve is a mad cyclist, so we begin there before he expertly links it back to service design, user experience and how to solve ‘dumb shit’ quickly. Steve has an uncanny ability to see the core of the problem and we talk through a range of case studies that explain Melds approach.
The team at Meld is incredibly diverse, with a wide range of experience and skills, not normally seen in a studio. We discuss this and also look at the importance of community and Steve’s role in UX Book Club, the Good Design Council of Australia, IxDA and the UX Australia conferences. At some point Matt manages to steer the conversation towards education (surprise surprise) and Steve’s multiple academic qualifications.
Special thanks to our friends Streamtime for their ongoing support. Check them out at streamtime.net. Get a free account. Try them out. It’’ll be time well spent.
Thank you also to Adobe for lending us their Adobe LIVE sound room to record in. Go to adobeapaclive.com to see their library of video tutorials.
Photo credit: Emma Nevison www.emmanevison.com
Links:
Meld Studios: www.meldstudios.com.au
Meld Studios Instagram: www.instagram.com/meldstudios
Steve Instagram: www.instagram.com/docbaty
Steve LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/stevebaty
UX Australia: www.uxaustralia.com.au
UX Book Club SYD: www.uxbookclubsydney.com/home
Good Design Council of Australia: good-design.org
IxDA: ixda.org
Streamtime: streamtime.net
Adobe LIVE: www.adobeapaclive.com

EP110 with Benni Weller and Mikey Hart
Benni and Mikey are both Creative Directors at Hulsbosch based in Sydney. Hulsboch is known for creating iconic brands and working with big-name clients throughout Australia and Mikey and Benni find themselves today as creative leaders.
We spoke about their different paths to where they are today, the pros and cons of specialising vs generalising as a designer, collaboration and the value of diversity in creative teams.
ADR episodes stay on time and on track thanks to our partners at Streamtime! It's creative project management software that works. Try it streamtime.net.
Links:
benniweller.de
linkedin.com/in/mikeyhart
hulsbosch.com.au

EP109 with Kenjiro Kirton

EP108 with Ben Johnston and Alex Naghavi
We began by talking about working and living in LA and projects with famous people, we spent some time at Adam Sandler’s Christmas Party and the gushed about the Hemsworth's.
We later got deep into the future of sex, getting old, sexual compatibility scores and our cognitive load, venturing and investing in people (rather than an idea).
ADR episodes stay on time and on track thanks to our partners at Streamtime! It's creative project management software that works. Try it streamtime.net.
Big thanks to guest host Prue Jones and The Design Conference for having us.
Links:
www.josephmark.com.au
www.alexnaghavi.com
www.instagram.com/thebrokecollector_
www.thefallsfarm.com

EP107 with Amanda Munilla
Amanda, not a designer by trade has had a non-linear path into managing at one of the biggest creative firms in the World. Deciding not to be a lawyer was only the beginning and she has since gone on to build a strong career in strategy. With that in mind, we get into what strategy means, how it’s changed and how Amanda explains it to clients.
Amanda is also a big supporter of Womentor. So we get into what it is, why she got involved and why it’s needed in the industry — now more than ever. We touch on the fact that Wolff Olin's office heads, around the World, are all female. Amanda has a lot to say on this and is passionate that diversity isn’t a token action.
Huge thanks to Prue Jones and Andy Wright who co-hosted, our mates at Streamtime and The Design Conference. You guys rock!
Check out streamtime.net. Project management software for creative agencies.
Links:
Wolff Olins website: www.wolffolins.com
Wolff Olins Insta: www.instagram.com/wolffolins
Amanda Insta: www.instagram.com/pilar24
Amanda LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/amandamunilla
TDCB recap: www.wolffolins.com/the-design-conference-2019-recap
Womentor website: www.womentor.com.au
Prue Insta: www.instagram.com/prudencemjones
Andy Insta: www.instagram.com/adwrighty
Never Not Creative website: www.nevernotcreative.org
NNC Insta: www.instagram.com/nvrnotcreative

EP106 with Tea Uglow
Tea Uglow is one of those very few people who genuinely make you rethink everything you thought you knew. This episode is full of interesting insights into how we can think about technology, inclusiveness, design, and accommodation.
We talk very briefly about her early days at Google in 2006 and how she didn’t particularly see herself working there for long, fast forwarding to today where she works in the idea of information, space and how digital works with humans, technology and culture. We covered how experimentation can be part success and part disaster, our relationship with truth in communication, ethics, inclusiveness and framing problems.
Big thank you to special guest host Prue Jones, our friends at Streamtime and The Design Conference Brisbane.
Check out streamtime.net to keep on top your projects. Admin without feeling like admin.
Links
teau.me
research.ambientlit.com
JFK Unsilenced campaign: www.thedrum.com/news/2018/06/22/cannes-lions-the-day-jfk-unsilenced-wins-creative-data-grand-prix-cannes

EP105 with Mills and Sinx

EP104 with Andrea Lau
We also spend some time on what it’s like to run a niche studio in an emerging area and why data specialists are becoming such hot property. Towards the end, we discuss the crossover point between data visualisation and art and look at how, as a studio, Small Multiples is trying to present data in non-typical ways — in boutique chocolates for example.
As always special thanks to Streamtime for their steadfast support and motivation. If you haven’t tried their software yet, well, you’re wasting time, literally.
Special thanks to John Allsopp from web directions for connecting us with Andrea.
Links:
Streamtime streamtime.net
Small Multiples: www.smallmultiples.com.au
Visualise Today: www.blog.smallmultiples.com.au
Bakedown Cakery: www.bakedowncakery.com
Hello Sun: www.hellosunapp.com
Not A single Origin: notasingleorigin.com
Immigrant maps: smallmultiples.com.au/projects/mapping-immigrants-birth-places
Framework for designing amazing maps: smallmultiples.com.au/articles/what-to-think-about-when-designing-maps
School planning: smallmultiples.com.au/projects/school-planning-assistance-tool
Tim Berners-Lee and data: 5stardata.info/en/ and solid.inrupt.com
We Feel Fine: wefeelfine.org/ and number27.org/wefeelfine

EP103 with Pip Jamieson
Many in Australia will know Pip as the co-founder of The Loop before she moved back to the UK in 2014 to begin the Dots. She’s incredibly curious, constantly learning new things and with a signature infectious laugh — it’s impossible not to be inspired by her. Especially when you consider she is dyslexic, which she considers her ‘superpower’. The Dots is fast positioning itself as the main alternative to LinkedIn so we also manage to get into the details of what makes them different and what’s next.
As always special thanks to Streamtime for their steadfast support and motivation. If you haven’t tried their software yet, well, you’re wasting time, literally.
Links:
Streamtime streamtime.net
The Dots: the-dots.com
Pip’s Wikipedia page: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pip_Jamieson
Pip in Marie Claire: www.marieclaire.co.uk/entertainment/people/pip-jamieson-578139
Creative Review Top 50 Leaders: the-dots.com/projects/pip-jamieson-named-one-of-creative-review-s-creative-leaders-50-of-2017-176795
Pip on Monocle: monocle.com/radio/shows/the-entrepreneurs/216

EP102 with Mark Stott

EP101 with Ben Miles
Ben has been with Interbrand for over a decade and during that time has seen it evolve and change — this is what Ben terms the ‘three horizons of Interbrand Australia’. We spend some time unpacking these periods, why people made the culture and how the studio has tried to ‘stand apart’ from what is expected of them. We also discuss the new ownership and how big data will further evolve the studio.
Matt often refers to Ben as the most optimistic designer he knows, thus the idea of optimism, blind or realistic, is discussed and how Ben’s view on it has changed. Throughout this episode we dig into specific projects (Telstra, G’ AY MATE and The Prince Akatoki), exploring the concepts and how the ideas developed. Ben is a big believer of ideas, but he always wants to know what happens next, how does it grow and get people behind it.
Special thanks to Streamtime for their steadfast support and motivation. If you haven’t tried their software yet, well, you’re wasting time, literally.
Links:
Streamtime streamtime.net
Ben Miles Instagram www.instagram.com/benmilesaway
Interbrand Australia www.interbrand.com/au
G’ AY MATE vimeo.com/266815002
Telstra Case Study vimeo.com/51031917
FITCH www.fitch.com/home
AGDA NEW vimeo.com/89462677

EP100 Katja Forbes on Strength and Gumption

EP99 with Zoë and Tash on Directing and Direction
Specialising in fashion, retail, luxury property and consumer goods eskimo design has been a colourful part of the Australian design tapestry for twenty years. Recently, Zoë and Tash have both taken a sabbatical, we unpack what that means, what’s next amid our jealousy.
We spoke about the years working together before eskimo at Vogue Australia, founding an agency 20 years ago and managing a business in a constantly changing and adapting environment.
We spoke about juggling mentorship and business growth, family and life before diving into women in leadership, support, change and photographing Kate Blanchett.
Big thanks as always to our friends at Streamtime. Without their support, we couldn’t do half of what we have. streamtime.net
Links:
eskimodesign.com.au
instagram.com/snowyzoeeskimo

EP98 with Rob Self-Pierson on Words and Verbs

EP97 with Carlo Giannasca on Limelight and Curtains
Carlo Giannasca is a multi-award-winning graphic and three-dimensional environmental designer. He is the Head of Urbanite, Design Director and one of the founder/owners of Frost*collective. On top of that, he is the joint chair of Sydney's SEGD chapter (The Society for Experiential Graphic Design).
In this episode, we chart Carlo’s introduction to design, from drawing on his bedroom walls to hassling Garry Emery into giving him his first job. With over 30 years of experience, Carlo has seen the industry dramatically change in Australia, we look at this but also explore why he made the move from traditional graphic design to environments.
We also delve into the idea of self-promotion. With all the success Carlo has had, he’s always preferred to stay out of the spotlight, preferring to keep on the tools as much as possible, taking an active part in building and shaping teams, rather than a profile.
Big thanks as always to our friends at Streamtime. Without their support, we couldn’t do half of what we have, or what we have planned for the next 97 episodes. streamtime.net
Also thanks to Kevin Finn (The Sum Of) who jumped in to co-host on this episode. thesumof.com.au
Links:
Frost*collective: frostcollective.com.au
Urbanite: frostcollective.com.au/urbanite
SEGD: segd.org
InDesign Live article w/ Nick Bannikoff discussing the state of XGD in Australia: indesignlive.com/the-peeps/state-ux-design-australia-nick-bannikoff-carlo-giannasca-convo
Foundry Live presentation: foundry.com.au/education/foundry-live/carlo-giannasca

EP96 with Mike Rigby on Disruption and Design
This episode could’ve gone in many different directions because when you talk Mike, you quickly realise he has a vast depth of knowledge when it comes to not only design but explaining and thinking about design. A master communicator, Mike can make the complex simple and the impossible seem possible.
We spoke about his time at University which Mike credits to teaching him how to think and The Chase where he learned how to design. How mike fell in love with design and what it can do, his time in the UK, Australia and a few selected projects happening at R/GA.
Big thanks as always to our friends at Streamtime who help make our episodes possible. streamtime.net 🤘
This is the last episode in a series recorded at #AdobeMAX co-supported by Adobe and HP, big thanks to them for getting us to LA as an #adobepartner! 🙌
Mike
twitter.com/mikerigby
mike-rigby.com/About-Mike-Rigby
instagram.com/mikerigby
Connected brands | TNW Conference 2018
youtube.com/watch?v=X_KOIt3TbPs
Mike speaking to the legendary Debbie Millman
soundcloud.com/designmatters/design-matters-with-debbie-millman-mike-rigby

EP95 with Jessica Hische on Encouragement and Bravery
Jessica hardly needs an introduction, she is a creative icon and well known for her illustration work, side projects and phenomenal client work. But for those out there who may not know her, she is described on her website as a lettering artist and author with a tendency to overshare and a penchant for procrastiworking.
We spoke about design and life, having children, coming up with ideas and her new amazing book Tomorrow I’ll be Brave. Where her thinking starts when creating a book and how it’s different than creating other design project work.
It truly was a pleasure to spend some time talking with Jess, the audio has a bit of background noise as it was recorded in the media room at Adobe MAX.
Big thanks as always to our friends at Streamtime who help make our episode possible. streamtime.net 🤘
Our Adobe MAX series is co-supported by Adobe and HP. Big thanks to them for getting us to LA as an #adobepartner! 🙌
Jessica Hische
jessicahische.is
instagram.com/jessicahische
tomorrowillbebrave.com

EP94 with Mark Heaps on Life and Fulfilment
In this episode, we spoke with Mark Heaps, designer and synergist.
Mark is an American designer from Austin Texas who studied art and design in the UK. With his wife, he runs a service group with a small team of designers and production experts. This episode was recorded in Los Angeles as part of our Adobe Max series.
We spoke about the beginning of his career and how when his friends were drawn to sketching transformers, he was recreating logos and type from he-man and music albums, his love for ketchup, growing up fascinated in technology, skateboarding, the DIY movement, music and being productive and never wanting to be bored.
Big thanks as always to our friends at Streamtime who help make our episode possible. streamtime.net 🤘
Our Adobe MAX series is co-supported by Adobe and HP big thanks to them for getting us to LA as an #adobepartner! 🙌
Mark Heaps
markheaps.com
instagram.com/lifebypixels
twitter.com/lifebypixels
Links mentioned
heshootshedrawspodcast.simplecast.fm/5f795982
voicesofimpact.com/mark-heaps

EP93 with Birgit Palma on Imagination and Impossibility

EP92 with Adam JK on We're Going to Die
In this episode, we spoke with Adam J Kurtz a designer, artists, author and more from Brooklyn. He is best known for the honesty and humour in his work and his books. True to his online presence, Adam was open, honest, funny and personal when we caught up for a sneaky chat in a press room at Adobe MAX.
We spoke about Adam’s history moving to New York, that time he built a fan site for The Veronica’s, the internet, design, depression, taking ourselves too seriously and the fun fact that we’re all going to die.
Thanks to our mates at Streamtime – it’s project management software we couldn’t live without. They’re also behind Never Not Creative who have a great podcast we think ADR listeners will enjoy.
Our Adobe MAX series is co-supported by Adobe and HP Australia – big thanks to them for getting us to LA as an #adobepartner! 🙌
Links
adamjkurtz.com
instagram.com/adamjk
twitter.com/adamjk
shop.adamjk.com/book
twitter.com/nvrnotcreative

EP91 with Lauren Hom on Juice and Squeeze
In this episode, we spoke with Lauren Hom a designer and letterer based in Detroit, schooled in New York, and raised in Los Angeles. Lauren is well known for her bright colour palettes, playful letterforms, and quirky copywriting. Lauren is highly intelligent, funny, passionate about what she does and has an infectious laugh that made this episode incredibly fun.
We spoke about her original plans to be a Creative Director and studied at The School of Visual Arts and how lettering was a ’thing on the side’ we spoke about some of her lettering projects, freelancing, picking up book deals, marketing and building a body of work.
Thanks, as always, to our good friends at Streamtime – It’s project management software we couldn’t live without. They’re also behind Never Not Creative who have a great podcast we think ADR listeners will enjoy. anchor.fm/nevernotcreative
Our Adobe MAX series is co-supported by Adobe and HP Australia big thanks to them for getting us to LA as an #adobepartner
Links
homsweethom.com
instagram.com/homsweethom
behance.net/homsweethom
streamtime.net

EP90 with Mark Conlan on Discovery and Refinement
Mark is a multi disciplined Illustrator from Dublin working and living in Melbourne Australia, Marks work is a combination of emotion, fantastic worlds, playful characters and a beautiful colour palate. Mark creates conceptual based illustration for products, editorial, publishing, advertising campaigns and one-off commissions for clients all around the world.
We spoke about his journey to where he is today, from always being curious and a ‘doodler’ growing up, his animation course in Ireland to graduating during the recession and working for a few years before moving to Melbourne with his partner. It was in Australia that Mark discovered and refined his style by working on one piece of work every day.
Thanks, as always, to our good friends at Streamtime. It’s with their support we’ve been able to get s**t done. It’s project management software we couldn’t live without. They’re also behind Never Not Creative who have a great podcast, take a look! anchor.fm/nevernotcreative
Our Adobe MAX series is co-supported by @adobe and @hpaustralia big thanks to them for getting us to LA as an #adobepartner! 🙌
Mark
instagram.com/markconlan
markconlan.com
Links Mentioned
madebyfern.co
vimeo.com/243244233

EP89 with Sally Spratt on Drawing Motivation
Sally is an illustrator with graphic design roots who found a following through a passion project entitled The Lust List where she drew images of products she lusted after but couldn’t afford. As well as being represented by Roxy Jacenko at The Ministry of Talent, Sally’s work for clients is incredibly diverse but often focused on speed and getting ideas down quickly, making her perfect for conceptual work and free-flowing watercolour imagery.
In this episode we spoke all about Sally’s backstory and how imposter syndrome is both a good and bad thing, giving us motivation to always over deliver. We look at making the leap to “follow your bliss” and how to get your friends to write your resignation letter. We also looked at some of the new announcements from Adobe that will positively affect her workflow (Project Gemini) and how she plans to diversify into other areas with the help of the new tech (Rush and Photoshop on the iPad).
Thanks, as always, to our good friends at Streamtime. It’s with their support we’ve been able to get s**t done. It’s project management software we couldn’t live without. Try it Streamtime.net
Our Adobe MAX series is co-supported by Adobe and HP Australia big thanks to them for getting us to LA.
sallysprattstudio.com
theministryoftalent.com
instagram.com/_thelustlist_
Adobe Project Gemini
theblog.adobe.com/introducing-project-gemini
A great video of Gemini in action
youtube.com/watch?v=VkBSgTez8Wc

EP88 with Alicia Souza on Enthusiasm and Creativity
Alicia is a Freelance Illustrator and Artist working and living in Bangalore India. Her career is a mixture of commercial illustration and running her online store, which has a constantly changing inventory of brands and products.
We spoke about life as a freelancer, her life travels from Abu Dhabi to Bangalore via RMIT Melbourne, her process starting with pen and paper, getting up early to finish client work at a reasonable time and more. Alicia has been in India for eight years now and we talk about how the creative scene has evolved over time, her dog Charlie and how jetlag totally, definitely exists.
ADR episodes stay on time and on track thanks to our partners at Streamtime! It's creative project management software that works. Try it streamtime.net.
Our Adobe MAX series is co-supported by Adobe and HP. Check out all the talks from Adobe MAX max.adobe.com/sessions/max-online and take a look at the zbook that Matt never got the chance to try www8.hp.com/au/en/workstations/zbook-15.html
aliciasouza.com
www.instagram.com/aliciasouza

EP87 Flyn and Matt Escape to LA
Follow us on Instagram for updates during the trip! instagram.com/ausdesignradio
Our episodes are on track and keep coming thanks to our friends at Streamtime – streamtime.net
Our trip is in part thanks to HP and the new laptops called zbooks which we can't wait to get our hands on over in LA www8.hp.com/us/en/workstations/workstation-ultrabooks.html

EP86 with Jeremy Lord on Deliberate Practice
In this episode, we spoke with Jeremy Lord, Illustrator, Designer and Teacher from Sydney.
Jeremy is a long time friend of the show and an amazing Illustrator, but he’s also a designer working with studios and agencies on projects from branding to packaging to straight-up graphic design.
We spoke about deliberate practice if you really want to improve a skill, skateboarding duck foot, drawing dragon ball z, Instagram, workload and workflow.
Streamtime
streamtime.net
Jeremy Lord
instagram.com/jeremylord_

EP85 with Prue Jones on Gender and Simulations
This session finds us still at the Adobe Symposium 2018, where we ‘finally’ got the chance to sit down with Prue Jones. She has been on our list since the first episode but for whatever reason we’d never been able to make it work. Well, the wait only heightened our anticipation and Prue did not disappoint.
Design and Creative Director of Fjord, Prue has over 30 years of experience in the Creative Industries. Starting in advertising she made the move to graphic/digital design and recently began balancing the roles of futurist and gender equality leader. Two topics she’s incredibly passionate about.
As you might imagine, with that backstory, this conversation went all over the place but somehow remained connected to what we, as designers, as people, can do to make things better. We talk sex robots, the singularity, living in a simulation and becoming a spokesperson for female creatives.
Special thanks to Streamtime for their continued support. If you haven’t started using their software… well, you are missing out.
Thank you to Adobe for having us along for the ride and to Jo Roca (freakin’ legend) for stepping in as co-host.
Prue Jones
linkedin.com/in/prue-jones-58991516
instagram.com/prudencemjones
Streamtime
streamtime.net
Jo Roca
forthepeople.agency

EP84 with James de Vries on Sea Change and See Change
In this episode we spoke with James de Vries, Principal Director of Strategy at Second Road. James has recently returned to Australia after six years working as Creative Director at Harvard Business Review, where his role centred around raising the voice of design and building the value and effectiveness of design in the company.
We spoke about the contrast between high school and design school, learning that design could be a lightning rod for strategy, how an understanding and sensitivity to good typography makes a good designer, starting a deluxe with his wife, working in the newspaper industry and learning to ‘speak editorial’ and also design, strategy and management. We also dove into his time at HBR, working with Fairfax and his new role at second road.
Special thanks to our mates at Streamtime for helping make this episode possible, checkout their approach to project management at streamtime.net
Special thanks to guest host Andy Wright for stepping in and Adobe for having us back stage at Adobe Symposium.
Listen to this episode straight from the website ausdesignradio.com or subscribe using iTunes or any podcast app. Search for ausdesignradio.
James de Vries
linkedin.com/in/james-de-vries-4ba9b03
secondroad.com.au
HBR
hbr.org
Streamtime
streamtime.net
Mental Health Study
bit.ly/mentallyhealthy18
Never Not Creative
twitter.com/nvrnotcreative
Andy Wright
twitter.com/adwrighty

EP83 with James Victore on Feck Perfuction
In this episode, we had the chance to grab an hour with James Victore backstage at the Adobe Symposium 2018 — and what an hour it was.
James is a designer, artist, educator and author but also an incredibly proud Father. Here we talk about dropping out of art college and going back to teach (at the same school). We look at teaching college students compared to adult professionals and how his teaching/client work has recently changed balance, to incorporate more personal growth retreats.
Most of all we discuss James’ outlook on life and how each day is a chance to learn for him, his book Who Died and Made You Boss? and his recently finished book Feck Perfuction and speaking tour of the same name.
Big thank you to our mates at Streamtime! Keeping us on track and episodes of ADR happening. Also Jo Rocca for joining this episode as guest host and Adobe for having us at Symposium!
James Victore
jamesvictore.com
instagram.com/jamesvictore
Streamtime
streamtime.net
Jo Roca
forthepeople.agency

EP82 with Estella Tse on Immersive Art
In this episode, we spoke with Estella Tse backstage at Adobe Symposium 2018 in Sydney. Estella is a Virtual Reality painter and designer with a background in Illustration hailing from Oakland California.
We spoke about how virtual reality affects your mind and infiltrates Estella’s dreams, how she became an Artist in Residence with Google's Tilt Brush, how swimming and yoga makes her a better VR artist and exploring how the great art masters may have used VR as a canvas.
Special thanks to Streamtime for helping make this episode happen and Jo Roca for being a guest host!
Estella Tse
instagram.com/estellatse
estellatse.com/about-estella
twitter.com/estellatse
Streamtime

EP81 Perth Panel on Work and Life
We spoke about work-life balance or lack thereof, burnout, how we deal with moving forward in our work, education, internships and industry and community issues.
This is a recording from a live event so the audio quality isn't perfect, but we believe the content from the panel was excellent and worth sharing.
Big thanks to our mate at Streamtime getting us to and from Perth to run this special event.
Kylie Timpani
kylietimpani.com
Mark Braddock
blockbranding.com
Becky Chilcott
chil3.com
Frankie Ratford
frankieratford.com

EP80 with DIA on Kinetic Identity
Meg and Mitch are incredibly organised and we look at how they manage their schedules so they have time for life/work and what it takes to run a successful consultancy and marriage at the same time.
We also look at their kinetic identity systems, how the concept originated and how their process has needed to change to incorporate a whole new way of working. We explore how they communicate the value of it to their clients and build in time to continually experiment.
Special thanks to Streamtime for helping us make this episode happen, Matt from TDCB for having us and Andy Wright for stepping in for Matt.
Follow the show on any podcast app by searching for ausdesignradio or stream straight from the website!
DIA
dia.tv
instagram.com/dia_studio
twitter.com/DIA_Studio
Streamtime
instagram.com/streamtime
Andy Wright
instagram.com/adwrighty
TDC
instagram.com/the.design.conference

EP79 with Jack Mussett on Words and Psyche
Jack has been on our infamous industry wish list since the beginning of the podcast so it was great to finally get a chance to speak with him in his hometown of Melbourne. We spoke about work-life balance, overdelivering on projects, working with friends, side projects, and diversity. We got philosophical with talk about critical thinking and the meandering brain.
We dove into a few projects including The World Cancer Congress the Melbourne International Jazz Festival as well as some of his personal projects including Word–Form.
Special thanks to Streamtime for helping us make this episode happen and Tina Victoria Afshar for joining Guest Host!
“It’s important to sometimes not have a goal and just enjoy the journey” – Jack
instagram.com/jackmussett
instagram.com/motherbirdstudio
instagram.com/wordformco
instagram.com/tinavictoria_
instagram.com/streamtime
twitter.com/jackmussett
twitter.com/motherbird
twitter.com/wordformco
twitter.com/tinavictoria_
twitter.com/streamtime
Web
motherbird.com.au
Word-form.com
tinavictoria.com
streamtime.net

EP78 with George Rose on Walls and Wunderlust
George is a multidisciplinary artist, well known for doing incredibly large walls, blending colours, gradients and textures through hand-rendered type forms. An incredibly honest and free spirit, we got into all things about having a career as a mural artist, how she makes her money and life on the road.
George has a background as a designer before moving over to the street art scene, having studied both art and design in University. We cover off how that move came about and discuss expiry dates and how long she can keep up the physical pace of leaping around ladders and scaling walls.
Thumbs up to Streamtime for making this episode happen, The Design Conference Brisbane for having us and Josie Young for guest hosting.
George’s Instagram
instagram.com/george_rose
George’s Facebook
facebook.com/GeorgeRoseIllustration
Great write up No Cure Magazine
nocuremagazine.com/no-cure-blog/2016/6/28/george-rose
Streamtime
streatime.net
Josie Young
instagram.com/josieyoung

EP77 with Bráulio Amado on Design and Reinvention
Bráulio Amado is a Graphic Designer and Illustrator from Portugal, currently living in New York City. He worked as a Designer at Pentagram NYC. Then joined Bloomberg Businessweek as an Art Director. Moved to Wieden+Kennedy. Now he works for himself.
We spoke about his journey from Portugal to Pentagram NYC, to Bloomberg Business Week and following Richard Turley from there Wieden kennedy. We spoke about some of his projects like working with Frank Ocean, Notting Hill Carnival and the Janelle Monáe New York Times cover and creating interesting and different type treatments using only a small amount of typefaces.
Special thanks to Streamtime for making this episode happen, The Design Conference Brisbane for having us and Josie Young for guest hosting.
Streamtime
streamtime.net
Josie Young
instagram.com/josieyoung
Bráulio Amado Design
badbadbadbad.com
instagram.com/braulioamado
Better Mail Bráulio
vimeo.com/76932423
Notting Hill Carnival
itsnicethat.com/articles/braulio-amado-boiler-room-notting-hill-carnival-graphic-design-240817
Janelle Monáe NYT Cover
nytimes.com/2018/04/25/magazine/behind-the-cover-how-janelle-monae-found-her-voice.html
Richard Turley
richardturley.tumblr.com
Tracey Ma
tracyma.com
Be Best
underconsideration.com/brandnew/archives/new_logo_for_be_best_by_melania_trump.php
Wieden Kennedy
wk.com

EP76 with Kris Sowersby on Foundies and Roundies
We cover everything from why he first fell in love with type, to why he remains independent and where the name Klim came from. Josie even gets to bully him into making round periods for Founders Grotesk. What she calls Foundies with Roundies.
Klim
klim.co.nz
twitter.com/klimtypefoundry
instagram.com/klim_type_foundry
pinterest.com.au/klimtype
klim-type.tumblr.com
Village: Fonts
vllg.com/fonts
The Letterheads LTD.
theletterheads.co.nz
PayPal Sans
bestawards.co.nz/graphic/design-craft/klim-type-foundry/paypal-sans
FF Meta Serif
typekit.com/fonts/ff-meta-serif
Thanks to Streamtime for helping make this episode happen!
streamtime.net
The Design Conference Brisbane for having us
thedesignconference.com.au

EP75 The Gig Economy Panel with Streamtime and Foundry
Panellists
Andy Wright – Streamtime
twitter.com/adwrighty
Vanessa Ward – Founder of Nomadism
nomadism.co
Anita McArthur – CD of SeeSaw
seesawstudio.com.au
Jim Antonopoulos – TANK
twitter.com/jimantonopoulos
Moderated by Matt Leach
instagram.com/matt_leach
Thanks to Streamtime, Foundry and the speakers.
streamtime.net
foundry.com.au

EP74 with Catriona Burgess on Ideas and Purpose
From a Journalist at channel 7 to public affairs roles with Sydney Water and government organisations she eventually, perhaps inevitably made her way to Emery Vincent where she has spent 15 years and what is now called Frost Collective.
We spoke about purposeful brands and the importance of ideas, we spoke about the shift away from the industrial model of the past to today’s connection economy. We also spoke about equality in the workplace, embracing flexible and inclusive work schedules and how far we’ve come from needing employees to be chained to a desk to add value to a business.
Head to ausdesignradio.com to listen now or subscribe using any podcast app. Shout out to Guest Host Josie Young, Streamtime for lending us their studio to record and supporting us this year.
Catriona Burgess
twitter.com/catsydney
instagram.com/catsydney
Josie Young
josieyoung.co
instagram.com/josieyoung
twitter.com/josieyoung_
Cat’s Defrost Talk
youtube.com/watch?v=KfjofeoU7xE
Cox Architecture
coxarchitecture.com.au
Marimekko
marimekko.com
Seth Godin
sethgodin.strikingly.com
Sheryl Sandberg
amazon.com/Sheryl-Sandberg
Roxane Gay – Bad Feminist
goodreads.com/book/show/18813642-bad-feminist
Massimo Vignelli
eyeondesign.aiga.org/massimo-vignelli-design-quote-if-you-do-it-right-it-will-last-forever
The Design Conference
thedesignconference.com.au

EP73 with Vanessa Ward on Nomad-life
Now living in Hobart, Vanessa has had a life of travel, study and exploration. A respected strategist, product designer and thinker, Vanessa has worked for some of the most exciting design firms in the World, such as BMD (Bruce MayDesign) and FuseProject before setting up Nomadism in 2016 (with Sandy Oh and Dr Stella Humphries).
This episode charts a biographical path, from Vanessa’s entry into design via Architectonic Jewellery up to the recent building of her first home and what that taught her about design, permanency and sustainable technologies. It’s a roll-a-coaster of a life that is equal parts careful planning and happenstance.
Nomadism: nomadism.co
Behance: behance.net/VanessaWard
BMD: brucemaudesign.com
L’Oréal UV Sensor: fuseproject.com/blog
Architectonic jewellery: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Architectonic_jewellery
Streamtime: streamtime.net
Never Not Creative: medium.com/never-not-creative

EP72 With Andrew Johnstone on Photocopying with a Pencil
Flyn had been called away due to a project he was working on so we called in previous guest, Andy Wright to co-host.
Andrew, now living in Launceston, has had a wild and varied career, but one, upon reflection, that could be categorised by following his gut. This ‘gut-feeling’ has led him to establish some of Australia’s most influential events, communities and magazines where he’s sought to expose new talent and shine a light on the more obscure parts of our industry. It’s also led him to walk away from some ventures because it no longer felt right.
In this frank and honest interview, Andrew talks about these beginnings and endings. The highs and the lows. Giving us an amazing insight into his thought process and hints about what could be next.
Links:
Personal Website: andrewjohnstone.com
Instagram: instagram.com/andrew__j
Design is Kinky: designiskinky.net
DiK Instagram: instagram.com/designiskinky
Foundry: foundry.com.au
Foundry Instagram: instagram.com/myfoundrylife
Lume Magazine: lumemag.net
Lume Instagram: instagram.com/lumemag
Take Magazine: instagram.com/take_magazine
Take Instagram: instagram.com/take_magazine
Mike Campau: mikecampau.com
Semi-Permanent: semipermanent.com
Flint: flintsydney.com

EP71 with Tom Carey on Humanising Brands
We spoke about his early graduate days, sending out more than 100 emails to try to get his first gig, until finally landing his first job working with A+B studio (now Wiedemann Lampe). He then moved onto Hat-Trick, (Jim Sutherland's studio) and later Pentagram before moving to Melbourne and ultimately Sydney.
We covered his time working on the Sydney Opera House rebrand where he worked with renounced typographer Laurenz Brunner to create a unique typeface Utzon in product design software Rhino, working with Landor and talked about designers saving the world.
tomcarey.co
twitter.com/tompaulcarey
instagram.com/thomaspaulcarey
wiedemannlampe.com
thechase.co.uk
interbrand.com/au/work/sydney-opera-house
lineto.com/The+Designers/Laurenz+Brunner
rhino3d.com
collider.com.au
landor.com
agda.com.au/events-awards/events/nsw/march/positive-impact-%E2%80%98powered-by-pecha-kucha%E2%80%99-sydney/
alinavision.com

EP70 with Shannon Bell on Voices and Words

EP69 with Ngaio Parr on Making Nice

EP68 Tarra Van Amerongen On Elephants And Turtles
Tarra has recently had a baby boy so we started there, talking about the change a baby brings and how she wants to redesign the complete hospital experience.
As you might expect, Tarra is an incredibly big thinker and in a position to bring about change through her role with Fjord, her teaching at UTS and her work with the RSA (Royal Society for the encouragement of Arts, Manufactures and Commerce) – a 260 year old networking group ‘dedicated to enriching society and shaping the future’.
Interestingly Tarra didn’t take the standard design journey, instead studying business and management, working as an Investment Analyst and managing CBA’s Innovation Lab, before moving into more typically creative roles. This experience puts her in a unique position to understand both sides of the corporate/creative divide and we discuss how she navigates it.
Matt first met Tarra through an AGDA panel they were on during VIVID in 2017 entitled Can Technology Make us more Human – you can see that panel at agda.com.au/inspiration/agda-tv/can-technology-make-us-more-human-panel-discussion
Fjord: fjordnet.com
2018 Fjords Trends: trends.fjordnet.com
RSA: thersa.org
CBA Innovation Lab: commbank.com.au/about-us/innovation-lab.html

EP67 with Jordan Stokes Design and Passion

EP66 with DesignStudio – I'm with the Brand
We spoke about their history growing up in the same small town in Englands’ north and moving to London to start their careers to working at small and large studios to finally getting together to create DesignStudio.
DesignStudio are a powerhouse with clients such as Twitter, Airbnb, EPL and Deliveroo to name a few. Their philosophy is to create a meaningful difference with the brands they work with, to the point where they feel that they become part of that brand and ethos. We also spoke about how to immerse yourself into your clients users, thinking about entire ecosystems and keeping a diverse and balanced workplace.
Thanks to our friends at Streamtime for keeping this episode on schedule and us on track. We’re taking ADR on the road this year, if you want us to come to you, or have someone you really want us to speak to on the show, go to streamtime.net/adr and have your say.
DesignStudio
www.instagram.com/__designstudio__
www.instagram.com/dspaulstafford
www.instagram.com/ben_designstudio
design.studio/
Streamtime

EP65 with Wade and Leta – Follow to the Leta

EP64 with Tim Clapham on Motion and Experiments
Motion Designers rejoice, we sat down with Tim Clapham of Luxx. If you’ve searched for a tutorial for motions design chances are you’ve heard Tim’s voice guiding you through some new feature or process. Tim is an industry heavyweight so we brought own on motion expert Ian Haigh along to ask some pointy questions.
We spoke about Tim’s relationship with Maxon and his experience as part of the beta testing team, his approach to tutorials and why he does them. We also spoke about making titles for Adobe MAKE IT, collaborating with other creatives like (friend of the show) Mike Tosetto, Ash Boland, Patrick Clair and studios like Spinfx.
This episode was made possible thanks to Streamtime, without them we would never be on time. Stay on track of your projects and check them out.
streamtime.net
The app! It's awesome streamtime.net/blog/streamtime-ios-app
Visit Tim
twitter.com/helloluxx
luxx.tv
helloluxx.com
We're planning a tour of Australia, should we visit your town? Is there someone from your community we should be talking to? Get in touch via twitter.com/ausdesignradio or regular ole email

EP63 with Beck Feiner on The 123 of A-Z
Beck is an illustrator as well as a high-concept Art Director, with a work history with some of the top agencies in Sydney, today Beck follows her true passion, Illustration.
We spoke about award school, the importance of connections and relationships in her career, her experience moving to London at the beginning of her career with no portfolio and ending up at Blink studio, working with amazing Directors before finally working as a Graphic Designer at Moon in London before making the move to Moon Sydney.
We also covered some of her recent solo and partner projects including Mum’s Milestones and the Aussie Alphabet, the success of the projects going viral and the problems that come along with success.
Beck Feiner
www.instagram.com/beckfeiner_illustrations
www.alphabetlegends.com
www.facebook.com/AustralianAlphabet
www.instagram.com/mumsmilestones

EP62 with Kitiya Palaskas on Craft and Design
We spoke about podcasting goths, goth dads and being a goth in the United Arab Emirates, yep, with Kitiya Palaskas you never know where the conversation will go. This episode was recorded at the Adobe Make It conference in Sydney. Ian Haigh sits in for Flyn, who was busy helping run the event.
Kitiya has long been on our list of must-haves and she did not disappoint. In a wide-ranging conversation we discussed building signature styles and working out how to describe what you do, so clients can find you, even when you find it hard to describe yourself. She’s recently tried to sum it all up under ‘craft-based designer’ but, as she points out, the SEO stats aren’t great on that term. We also talked about working freelance, setting up a workspace and getting in the right frame of mind in order to create.
Head to the ADR website to stream the episode or subscribe to ausdesignradio.com
www.kitiyapalaskas.com
www.instagram.com/kitiyapalaskas
Her book: www.hardiegrant.com/au/publishing/bookfinder/book/pinata-party-by-kitiya-palaskas/9781741175295
Her talk at Adobe MAKE IT: youtu.be/KVK04zrHjUw

EP61 with Nicole Tung on Composure in Conflict
Warning, we talk about people and experiences in war zones and PTSD which may be triggering for some listeners.
We were lucky enough to be at the Australian Adobe Make It conference and managed to get some time with Photographer, Nicole Tung. Flyn was involved with running the conference so we grabbed our good friend Ian Haigh to help co-host this episode.
We spoke a lot about what she does, how she does it, and why she keeps doing it. Being shot at, dealing with PTSD and reintegrating into western society are just some of the topics we covered as we got a good insight into the life of a war photographer.
One of the calmest, collected and open personalities we’ve had on the show. If you want more of Nicole there is a great NetFlix doco she features in called Conflict. You can see it here on RedFitz
Films site: watch.redfitz.com/conflict
www.nicoletung.com
www.instagram.com/nicoletung
twitter.com/nicoletung6
ketchup.net.au
twitter.com/ianhaigh
Nicole's talk at Adobe MAKE IT 2017
youtu.be/g1gw_2ZNyy4

EP60 with Nuno Silva on Framing and Perspective
We caught up with Nuno at The Design Conference Brisbane earlier this year and talked about his background in graphic design and how he transitioned into photography, we spoke about Stocksy and how Stocksy saw an opportunity to lift the whole profession it’s set up very much in the artists' favour.
We spoke about his time travelling in Australia before getting a bit personal and spoke about battling cancer and his unique way of dealing with it.
www.nunosilva.ca
www.stocksy.com

EP59 with Lauren Carney on Work and Wonder
Lauren’s playful approach to her work is in stark contrast to her work savvy and approach to promotion and business acumen. She has an appreciation for all things arty, crafty and vintage which shows through her work.
We spoke about Lauren’s approach to treating social media followers well by trying to reply to everyone, working in isolation from home to speaking onstage and interacting with new and existing audiences. We also spoke about Wacom’s Next Level Competition, The Design Conference Brisbane, freelance life and tuning out with music.
www.instagram.com/dizzylittledotty
www.studioghibli.com.au
thedesignconference.com.au/breakouts/lauren-carney

EP58 with Graham Barton on Spock and Kirk
Folk is a 30+ strong independent brand identity and UX design consultancy in Sydney. Graham’s focus is on brand strategy and its creative expression. Thoughtful design. Ideas and keeping things simple. Searching for the surprisingly obvious.
Prior to his now six years at Folk, Graham was seven years as design director at Principals, plus other stints including The Partners and Enterprise IG (Horniak and Canny).
We spoke about Folk’s 2016 Poster’d project, UX ‘design’ and visual design, AGDA, and the need for graphic designers to stand up and be heard.
Graham shared his experiences of being prepared to look stupid, the ‘just right’ amount of ego, letting the back of the head do the thinking (and talking), and that everything always comes down to Spock and Kirk.
All of which, yes, does sound illogical, captain.
Graham’s website
grahambarton.com.au
Poster'd project 2016
www.folk.com.au/_clients/folkworks/posterd/index.html
Jobs for NSW project
www.folk.com.au/work/jobs-for-nsw
Folk
www.folk.com.au
Graham’s Pecha Kucha
agda.com.au/inspiration/agda-tv/how-creativity-saved-my-life-graham-barton

EP57 with Mark Gowing on Creating with Purpose
As big fans of Mark Gowings work over the years, we giddily spoke about his membership to AGI (Alliance Graphique Internationale) and the impact it has had on him, publishing, inspiration and art objects, changes at Formist, working without clients and becoming self-generative.
We also spoke about minimalism, reduction, restraint, starting with notes and drawing for projects and finding the balance between listening to yourself vs listening to clients.
Formist
formist.co
formisteditions.co
formistfoundry.co
Alliance Graphique Internationale
a-g-i.org
David Lancashire Design
davidlancashiredesign.com.au
Lars Müeller
lars-mueller-publishers.com
Preservation Music
preservation.com.au
Vaughan Oliver
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaughan_Oliver
Peter Saville
petersaville.info
Neville Brody
brody-associates.com
Hopscotch
markgowing.com/images/work/21/markgowing_hopscotch_3.jpg
Klim Type Foundry
klim.co.nz
Dinosaur Designs
dinosaurdesigns.com.au
Gemma Smith
gemma-smith.com

EP56 with Ian Anderson on People and Audiences
tDR is a graphic design studio based in Sheffield, England, founded in 1986 by Ian Anderson and Nick Phillips, best known for Electronic Music logos and album artwork.
Flyn spoke to Ian about visiting Australia for the speaking tour through AGDA, his influences and methods towards design, breaking the rules, finding a visual language through music, people watching and why he prefers to work with a small team.
thedesignersrepublic.com
facebook.com/thedesignersrepublic
Warp Records
warp.net
Aphex Twin
twitter.com/AphexTwin
Watchmen
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watchmen
The Shock of the New
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shock_of_the_New
Wipeout
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wipeout_(video_game)
Otaku
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otaku

ADR Review EP03

ADR Review EP02

ADR Review EP01

EP54 with Nick Bannikoff on Immersive Environments
Starting as an industrial designer, Nick moved into environmental design and saw the transition from that slightly confusing name into how it is now known, as experiential design. Yep, nothing to do with sustainable green environment work with Greenpeace.
As an experiential designer (the first we’ve had on the show), Nick is involved in the end-users experience of space and how they transition from place to place. This was a perfect chance for us (who have no idea about this stuff) to dig in and find more about what Nick does day to day and how these types of design decisions affect our engagement with space.
Nick is also Co-Chair (along with Carlo Giannasca of Frost) of the Australian chapter of SEGD (The Society for Experiential Graphic Design), a not-for-profit professional association dedicated to increasing awareness of experiential design to the public and other design professionals. The chapter is only a few months old so we took the time to explore why Australia needs a professional body like this and what they plan to do in the near future.
BrandCulture - brandculture.com.au
SEGD - segd.org
Carlo Giannasca - linkedin.com/in/carlo-giannasca-797b648
SEGD Sydney chapter - segd.org/chapters/sydney
The Design Kids - thedesignkids.org/interviews/brandculture/
MediaBank Pam - pamwayfinding.com

EP53 with Chris Laws on Generally Managing

EP52 with Nick Rudenno on Subscribing to Life
Nick is now Senior Designer at Interbrand Sydney after four years of running Nowhere Famous with business partner and best pal Mig Sicari. Nowhere famous is known for their tactile and craft based approach from a book about delivering content online for google to physical anamorphic projections.
We spoke about not sleeping when you have a kid, how Nick went through his design career backwards to writing, naming your studio based on a Simpsons reference, taking the time to think about the problem and how sometimes to get to the good idea you need to over deliver.
nickrudenno.com
nowherefamous.com
Anamorphic Projection
behance.net/gallery/19881923/Project-Five-Volume-5
Interbrand Sydney
standapart.com.au
Design is Kinky
designiskinky.net/
123klan
123klan.com
Empty Magazine
emptymag.com
Smith Journal
smithjournal.com.au
Paul Garbett Talk
vimeo.com/199596967

EP51 with Gemma O'Brien on Culture and Authenticity
Gemma is one of the most well known illustrators in Australia right now. Over the past five years or so, she has been constantly in demand for her murals, illustrations, artwork and speaking gigs here in Australia and also around the world. Her work takes on a variety of forms, from calligraphic brushwork, illustration and digital type.
We spoke about the value of temporary works due to their fleeting nature, the challenge of keeping up with what the industry is craving, living in an experience driven age when it comes to cultural value, the inevitable commercialisation of authenticity and much more.
Find Gemma
instagram.com/mrseaves101
jackywinter.com/artists/gemma-obrien
Andy Goldsworthy
visualmelt.com/Andy-Goldsworthy
Tracey Emin’s Bedroom
saatchigallery.com/artists/artpages/tracey_emin_my_bed.htm
Seb Lester the Calligrapher
instagram.com/seblester
David Jones
davidjones.com.au/Campaigns/Youth/Artists/gemma-obrien
Jacky Winter Group
jackywinter.com/artists/gemma-obrien
Levine/Leavitt
levineleavitt.com/artists/gemma-obrien
Who gives a crap
au.whogivesacrap.org/pages/christmas
Gemma speaking at Adobe Max 2016
video.tv.adobe.com/v/16654

EP50 with Frankie Ratford on The Road Less Traveled
In this episode, we catch up with our very first guest and good friend, Frankie Ratford from The Design Kids.
We interviewed Frankie in our very first ADR episode and since then, Frankie has been on a mammoth two-year trip, covering New Zealand, the United States and Canada, connecting designers, building TDK cities and spreading the Aussie design love.
When we sat down with her she had two days left before she headed back to her seaside shack in Tasmania for a much needed break. It was the perfect time to gather her thoughts about what she had achieved in that time and hear the crazy stories of what life on the road can be.
thedesignkids.org
instagram.com/thedesignkids
instagram.com/frankieratford
Hitchhiking signs
Search #tdkthumbsup on instagram
Brand New Conference
tinyurl.com/huk3whg
Will Bryant
willbryant.com
instagram.com/willbryantplz
Kate Bingaman Burt
katebingamanburt.com
instagram.com/katebingburt
AIGA Conference
aiga.org/2016conference

EP49 with Timothy Goodman on Designing for People
Recorded during the second day of the Adobe MAX conference in San Diego we took some time away from activities to sit with Tim and talk through his recent projects and his thoughts on design as a practice, not a profession.
Tim is well known for his collaborations with Jessica Walsh on the cult 40 days of dating and the more recent 12 kinds of kindness in which they explored projects to increase their understanding of empathy. Tim’s second book, The Sharpie Workshop explores his love of the permanent markers and how they have influenced his work and writing.
Unfortunately, Flyn had to run for a flight but our good friend Frankie Ratford (from The Design Kids) was able to fill in.
tgoodman.com
instagram.com/timothygoodman
Lynsey Addario
lynseyaddario.com
Janet Echelman
echelman.com
Quentin Tarantino
tinyurl.com/jfpthm8
Collins
wearecollins.com
40 days of dating
fortydaysofdating.com
12 kinds of kindness
12kindsofkindness.com
Sharpie Workshop
tinyurl.com/gvnyxn9
The Design Kids
thedesignkids.org

EP48 with Dan Stiles on Letting Things Unfold
In this episode, we spoke to designer and illustrator Dan Styles from Portland, Oregon.
This was recorded during the Adobe MAX conference where we were surrounded by some international superstars, so we broke some of own rules and made Dan our first non-ANZ guest. We also took the opportunity to give a quick run down of what we were seeing on the first day of the conference and how we were feeling about it.
Dan is best known for his music posters which have been recently collected into a book entitled ‘One thing leads to another’ which perfectly sums up his creative process and approach to life. We also speak about Portland and it’s creative community, the need to keep connected, children’s books and how terror keeps us going.
danstiles.com
instagram.com/danstiles
Dan’s book
danstiles.com/mainshop/anpggqyeioi3dnszrmxfi0tuttwkiq
Dan Stiles Adobe MAX talk
tinyurl.com/zs4axn8
Rocket Magazine
historyoftherocket.wordpress.com
Art Chantry
spd.org/2015/03/interview-art-chantry.php
Coop
theartofcoop.com
Frank Kozik
frankkozik.net
Put on your shoes
danstiles.com/mainshop/put-on-your-shoes
Draplin
draplin.com

EP47 with James K Lowe on Control vs Delegating
James is the first New Zealand creative to come on the show. We met James while visiting San Diego for the Adobe MAX Conference and found the time to sneak away for a chat. James is often referred to as a technical photographer and his work speaks for itself.
We spoke about photographers that James gets inspiration from outside of the fashion world, building sets, giving up control vs delegating on projects, inventing sign language to communicate with models on a shoot, the dark side of social media and being on the other side of the camera.
jamesklowe.com
instagram.com/jamesklowe
artnet.com/artists/philip-lorca-dicorcia
derekhenderson.net
davidwhitestudio.com
echelman.com
instagram.com/dailydougie

EP46 with Chris Panzetta on Interactive Experiences
S1T2 today stands for Story 1st Technology 2nd which is an apt name for a company that tinkers with new technology to tell stories. S1T2 operates from Surry Hills in Sydney and we focused on the Virtual Reality and emerging technology side of the business.
We spoke about experiential technology and how people feel when they physically interact with physical installations and objects. We covered real time design and development, embedded systems, post rationalisation and reverse engineering projects and how it can be different to a typical brief and deliver process.
s1t2.com.au
twitter.com/S1T2
Sydney Swans Wrist Band
tinyurl.com/hsjmd4k
Kept VR Game Teaser
keptgame.com

EP45 Andy Hoyne on The Competitive Spirit
Hoyne is a design agency in Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane specialising in corporate/retail branding and property marketing agency.
We spoke about writing and making books, bringing 3D developers in the house, peacemaking, risk, passion, perseverance and grit. We also talk about his new Sydney space, designing and marketing for property and having your name on the door.
hoyne.com.au
au.linkedin.com/in/andrew-hoyne-1a5a02
static.ipaustralia.com.au/store3/7/39/739705.1.high.jpg
The place economy www.instagram.com/p/BLuGBbZgi0R/
habitat.org.au

EP44 Andy Wright on Storytelling and Feelings
In this episode, we spoke with Andy Wright of For The People. A design and strategy agency focused on getting businesses closer to people through design, storytelling and technology. Andy Founded FTP with Damian Borchok and Jason Little.
We spoke about Andy’s history in history, his years in marketing in Slough (UK) through to working with R/GA in Sydney and finally with For the People. We touched on their book club and agency gaming breaks, hierarchy and flat organisational structure without the organising bit, his on-stage performance review at The Design Conference Brisbane and his CreativeMornings talk on Risk in which Andy spoke about recent health issues and shared some genuinely personal and powerful thoughts.
twitter.com/adwrighty
forthepeople.agency
creativemornings.com/talks/andy-wright
Books
goodreads.com/book/show/48654.Story
goodreads.com/book/show/23158207-how-google-works
goodreads.com/book/show/18077903-creativity-inc
goodreads.com/book/show/23317538-rising-strong
goodreads.com/book/show/11.The_Hitchhiker_s_Guide_to_the_Galaxy

EP43 Christopher Gregson on Colocated Production
Space66 started in the UK, has now arrived in Sydney and focuses on digital production and provides agile marketing support. Glug events are community get-togethers that kicked off recently in Sydney the day after this recording.
We spoke about how something like Space66 works in building teams, creating content quickly and the need for multidisciplinary skills. We asked Chris about his views on agile marketing and in-house vs agency models before chatting about the first Glug event in Sydney and where it might go.
www.space66.com
glugevents.com
twitter.com/chrissygregson
agilemethodology.org

EP42 Julian Melhuish on Starting with Words

EP41 Linda Jukic On Trust
For the past two years, Linda has been Creative Director with Hulsbosch focusing on brand, strategy and design. She's also Vice Chair of the Australian Graphic Design Association (AGDA). Before her current role, she was Creative Director at Moon for 10 years.
We spoke about the differences between the Creative Director role vs designing in the trenches, what it's like to work for one studio for 10 years and moving to another, rebranding, designers, writing and finding out which 2016 predictions came true.
lindajukic.com
au.linkedin.com/in/linda-jukic-183a619
hulsbosch.com.au

EP40: Flyn and Matt on The New Shiny
Every now and again, we like to take a moment to recap on some of the things we've learnt so far. We're usually too busy listening to our guests to really have a chat and digest some of the recent episodes.
We spoke about the last ten episodes and some of the key takeaways, we discussed the rebrand and website launch and how it went down, thanked a bunch of amazing people who actually did all the work and more.

EP39: Dave Foster on A Journey With Type
Dave is an independent designer based in Sydney who we all know about thanks to his typographic work through Foster Type. He draws typefaces and lettering for design studios, type foundries, brands and individuals around the world.
We heard about how Dave became a type designer, and along the way, we find out what the difference is between a typographer, a letterer and a type designer is – he just happens to do all three. We also talk through some of his most recent jobs, working with Re: on the Optus rebrand and his personal project Tour De Fonts, where he designs a new typeface to match each stage of the Tour De France – within the time that it takes them to ride it (about 4 or 5 hours).
twitter.com/fostertype
instagram.com/fostertype
fostertype.com
jackywinter.com
klim.co.nz
imdb.com/title/tt1772925

EP38: Lara Allport On Work And Life
Lara Horsley/Allport arrived in Australia in 1999 and found her start in niche publishing houses focused on sound and technology. It’s here she met Simon Barrett and formed a friendship that led to running and owning two influential design businesses together. On top of this, she’s a devoted Mum (of two boys under three) and an illustrator/artist in her own right.
The National Grid has just turned 10, so we get a chance to explore what’s changed over that time and lessons learnt. In particular, we look at how to create a great environment for the team and the importance of work/life balance in an ever-busy industry.
au.linkedin.com/in/lara-horsley-2807207
thenationalgrid.com.au
thedrawingarm.com.au

EP37: Nigel Macquet On Unified Experiences
Originally from South Africa, Nigel began his 16-year design career in print, but quickly made the move to digital and is probably best known for his award-winning work on the relaunch of SBS sites (over 100 of them) and their video on demand service which now runs on over 21 different platforms. This job led him to be noticed in the user experience circles and landed him a job at News Corp where he heads up product development, style guides, and design architecture.
We talk about the biggest issues he’s facing, how he manages the day-to-day and what he’s planning for in the digital future. When we originally contacted Nigel, he was actually at a Mexico retreat with many of the Worlds largest news service UX leaders. So we get into a bit of what happened there (what he can tell us at least) and what it’s like being part of the UX Illuminati. On top of this, we geek out on StarCraft, GoT, and 100 other small tangents.
au.linkedin.com/in/nigel-macquet-352b3121
newscorpaustralia.com
sbs.com.au

EP36: Murray Bell On A Semi - Podcast
Semi-Permanent is an event many of us are familiar with and we spoke a lot about the early days of the conference, to where the platform of SP is now and where it's going in the future. We found out that some people sat next to Banksy and Shepard Fairey at one of the earlier conferences without even knowing it. [mind = blown]
We covered time Murray spent creating Movement Magazine, growing up deaf, leaving design is kinky, and some of the obviously amazing folks speaking at SP this year like Industrial Light and Magic (amazing), Ethan Eismann, Jon Lax and more.
au.linkedin.com/in/murray-bell-60a43824
beta.semipermanent.com

EP35: Matt Haynes On Why Epicness Is Only Forged In Hell
Matt runs The Design Conference, an event experience, tailored to the creative industry. He also runs Analogue Digital, a global network of 30+ experts who work in collaboration to deliver creative solutions for businesses, councils and the community.
Matt hails from sunny Queensland and a lot of what we spoke about centres around the culture in Brisbane, The Sunshine Coast and the Gold Coast. Matt gave us an insight into the design scene in the north and what he and others are doing to create positive change. We also spoke about the upcoming design conference and some of the speakers attending the conference including Jessica Hische, Alex Naghavi of Joseph Mark and Timba Smits.
au.linkedin.com/in/matthew-haynes-31934594
thedesignconference.com.au

EP34: Mike Tosetto On The Mic With Mike
Quite possibly one of the most down to earth and nicest people we've spoken with on ADR, Mike Tosetto also happens to be a wildly talented motion designer, specialising in 2D and 3D motion graphics. Mike started his rise to prominence at Interbrand, in the company of some exceptionally talented individuals and friends of the show Chris Doyle and Chris Maclean. Waving the motion designer flag, Mike made a name for himself within the industry for helping communicate branding to clients and their audiences.
We spoke about his transition from full-time studio life to starting his own business, making his first hire, his roller coaster of a career from playing the didgeridoo at Glastonbury to running tourist tours in the Northern Territory.
twitter.com/MikeTosetto
neversitstill.tv

EP33: Gabby Lord On OMGLORD

EP32: Chris Doyle On What A Conversation About Design Looks Like

EP31: Jess Huddart On Nothing Ventured Nothing Gained
With offices in Brisbane, Sydney and Los Angeles, Josephmark was founded by Ben (Joseph) Johnston and Joshua (Mark) Capelin in 2004. They first gained national recognition when Twitter bought their music finding application, We Are Hunted but went on to best that by being handpicked to redesign Justin Timberlake’s MySpace. These days they balance their client work with a number of in-house ventures, the most recent being Vest, a site dedicated to shining a light on Australian start-ups.
Jess joined Josephmark in 2005 and has been instrumental in their success. In 2014, she spoke at TedX SouthBank and wowed the audience with her open and honest account of vulnerability and dealing with people’s reactions when she started dating her boss (Ben). In this episode, we discuss her decision to go there, especially when public speaking is one of her least favourite things.
Along the way we talk about Jess and Ben’s organic farm, Falls Farm, working in the States and growing in-house businesses.
twitter.com/jesshuddart
josephmark.com.au
youtube.com/watch?v=HhZq1n0E-kE

EP30: Maggie Tang On Design And Devotion To Sound
Maggie made a real name by getting involved in the local industry, Sydney Creative Mornings and through working on large clients within Moon and then later at Frost before heading overseas to join Font Font, a foundry of the famous FontShop.
Big believers in happenstance we were lucky enough to bump into our dear friend, Maggie Tang. Maggie was on holidays in Sydney from Berlin where she moved nearly three years ago, so we jumped at the chance to sit down and find out how it happened and what it’s been like living and designing in Germany. Maggie also talks to us about what it’s like to work for a company full of software engineers and developers devoted to sound.
twitter.com/mmctang
ableton.com/en

EP29: David Trewern On Tech Toys And Trewern

EP28: James Noble On Being Noble By Nature

EP27: Chris Maclean On Branding A Frame Of Reference

EP26: Vince Frost On Chillin' With Frost
Vince is arguably one the most famous designers in Australia. Before starting Frost* Design in London in 1994, Vince was the youngest Associate Director at Pentagram. In 2004, he relocated to Sydney and, as Creative Director of Frost* Design, has lead a wide range of projects for clients such as Deutsch Bank, Qantas, Frasers Property and Sydney Opera House.
We spoke with Vince about bringing The Nest into the Frost fold and expanding out Frost Design to include Urbanite, we covered his vision of 'Designing success by Inspiring Ideas to Life' and how this concept plays a part in the business vision. We also spent some time discussing The Alliance Graphique International of which Vince is a member and head of in Australia.

EP25: Michaela Webb On What Goes Round
Michaela is an internationally recognised designer with over 18 years experience and has worked at some of the world’s leading brand and design agencies. Her work has won numerous local and international awards and appeared in feature articles for Idea Magazine, IDN and Visuelle.
With a history of working for arts and cultural clients, we spend time talking through how creatives work for creatives and what sort of give-and-take is needed. Round also has a habit of linking clients together, creating something entirely new and different. One such venture is the pairing of the Melbourne Symphony Orchestra with another of their clients, Chef Andrew McConnell to produce a music/food sensory event - one of the most talked about events at The Melbourne Wine and Food Festival, yet another of their clients, last year.

EP24: Tony Prysten On Two Sides Of The Same Coin
Originally an industrial designer, Tony evolved into the world of digital leading his own agency Igloo for 20 years. Tony has worked on significant digital strategies, campaigns and implementations for Metro, Mazda Australia, Cricket Australia, Quit Victoria, VicHealth, Cancer Council Australia and Red Cross Blood Service.
We found out about Tony’s roots in industrial design and how he evolved from industrial to branding and graphics, then digital and now is championing digital design in the advertising world.
Tony has unique perspective from running a design studio for two decades and then not only moving to advertising but also from employer to employee.

EP23: Jim Antonopoulos On Why You Don't Need A Title To Be Vital
Tank is a B Corp company based in Melbourne that is hard to describe since Jim and the team don't believe in hierarchy. Their multi-disciplined team includes storytellers, writers, designers, design researchers, producers and technologists.
Jim himself has had a zig-zag career, jumping between many different specialisations and this gets us talking about the idea of Full-Stack Employees, although check out this article for a differing view of whether it’s just a generalist.
Tank is well known for it’s written content with Hello Tomorrow, both on their blog and in printed journals they provide to clients and the lucky few. These journals bring together much of their learnings from projects and helps strengthen the relationship between studio and client.

EP22: Justin Smith On Why The End Is Just The Begining
End of Work is a Sydney-based studio working accross branding and design, communications, digital and film and interiors. Justin has two other businesses which are Get Commando Fit and The Online Chairman.
We spoke about 'us' as a design industry here in Australia, free pitching, the value of design and loving what we do and being inspired to come to work. Justin also shared a personal experience with getting some particularly bad news and finding ways to turn that into a positive.

EP21: Nick Hallam On Uncoated Positive Sex

EP20: Matt And Flyn On Rest Is For The Week

EP19: Matt Jackson On Affecting This
Affectors facilitate highly interactive workshops with organisations and individuals to lift performance and inspire action.
We dig deeper into his businesses and the difference between an effect and an affect, and why creatives need to be thinking more about the difference. Matt’s also just opened a school, Affectors Academy and we discuss how this came about and why it’s the right time for more specialised offerings in the Australian education industry.

EP18: Buzz Usborne On A Buzz By Any Other Name
Buzz (real name Pete) is well known in the digital design and user experience sectors having worked for digital giants such as Campaign Monitor, Mentally Friendly and Skype. He’s also the founder and product lead on Prevue, a much-loved presentation tool in many digital agencies.
In this conversation we discuss the conception of Prevue and what it’s like to grow a digital product over the last eight years, how much the industry has changed in that time, and when he knew it was a sustainable product, not just a start-up.

EP17: Rich Davy On The I In UX
Rich is a well-known entity in Australian digital agencies with his LinkedIn page reading like a who’s who of the industry; DT, Deloitte Digital, Reactive, Isobar to name a few. Since recording Rich has taken a new position as Associate Creative Director at Huge in NYC.
In this conversation, we spend a lot of time talking through his design journeys in London and New York, Rich’s own studio, Red Afro and what insights he was able to bring back to the Oz industry. Obviously, UX featured a lot throughout the 45 minutes as we delved into digital transformation and the importance of language in design.