
Backstory
By Toronto Reel Asian International Film Festival
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Backstory is written and hosted by Aram Collier and Kelly Lui, and is produced by Seungwoo Baek.

BackstoryFeb 25, 2021

Backstory Live! BIG FIGHT IN LITTLE CHINATOWN ft. Karen Cho and Friends of Chinatown TO
RA26 Film BIG FIGHT IN LITTLE CHINATOWN director Karen Cho sits down with RA programmer Vidhya Elango and Friends of Chinatown TO member Alex Hong to discuss the film's sprawling but intimate look at Chinatowns across North America. Karen, Alex, and Vidhya expand on joy and struggle and how these Chinatowns hold a special place in our cities and communities.
In the second half, Karen, Alex, and Vidhya collaborate to scarf down some cheung fun/rice rolls in our "Come Eat With Me" segment.
For more information about Friends of Chinatown Toronto and the Toronto Chinatown Land Trust go to https://www.instagram.com/friendsofchinatownto/ and https://bit.ly/TCLTLaunch
This episode uses or mentions the following multimedia samples and sources:
“Mulholland”, King Canyon "Keep On Movin'", King CanyonEdited by Aram Collier
Recorded and live mixed by Joseph Chung

Food for Thought with Jasmine Gui
Backstory returns after a post-festival hiatus to usher in the launch of the fourth edition of TACLA’s Youth Critics Initiative (YCI), an annual incubator that guides emerging writers over the course of six months to produce critical works in a variety of formats in conversation with Reel Asian’s festival programming. Recorded in October during preparation for the 26th edition of the festival and fourth edition of YCI, co-editor Jasmine Gui joins Kelly and Aram to chew on all things critical and reflect on the program’s evolution over the years.
On the menu: hamster facts, authorizing oneself and the process of scrutiny, what to do with absence and erasure, the origins of haterism, and why you should be on Team Rice.
Links:
“Critique as Care” by Mayanthi Fernando, discussed at 9:50: https://read.dukeupress.edu/critical-times/article/2/1/13/139235/Critique-as-Care
YCI IV Editors’ Letter by Jasmine Gui and Grayson Lee: https://medium.com/taclanese/yci-iv-letter-from-the-editors-6dc06ff5e15a
Find all the YCI pieces in Taclanese: https://medium.com/taclanese
For more on TACLA: https://tacla.ca/
For more on Reel Asian’s special projects: https://rarara.ca
Anthologies mentioned: “(re)Rites of Passages: Asian Canada in Motion”— https://www.reelasian.com/store/rites-of-passage-asian-canada-in-motion-anthology/ and “Reel Asian: Asian Canada on Screen”—https://www.reelasian.com/store/reel-asian-asian-canada-on-screen/
For more on Reel Asian’s special projects: https://rarara.ca
This episode uses the following samples and sources:
“Lost the way”, Horthy Kristóf
“Say Good Night”, Joakim Karud
“Morpho Diana”, Rachel Collier

RA26: Romeo Candido Artist Talk w/ Amanda Parris
To celebrate the launch of his inaugural Kalabaw Bursary for Filipinx filmmakers, long time filmmaker, musician, and do-it-all maestro Romeo Candido reflects on his career in this candid conversation with the also-super-talented writer/producer Amanda Parris. The conversation was recorded prior to the 2022 Reel Asian Film Festival where Romeo was honoured as the festival's Canadian Spotlight Artist. Romeo talks about the old days that weren't so good, how BIPOC film communities supported him when nobody else did, his creative approaches to film and TV writing and show-running, and what he hopes for the future.
More information on the Kalabaw Bursary guidelines and deadlines.
Episode recorded live by Joseph Chung and Jennifer Su
Edited by Haaris Qadri

Backstory Live! UNIDENTIFIED ft. Jude Chun
RA26 Film UNIDENTIFIED finds Jude Chun unraveling some of the mysteries behind his indie sci-fi feature, trojan horses in genre films, his round about journey to filmmaking, and how to plan and execute a globe-trotting set piece finale.
In the second half, Jude joins Aram for "Come Eat With Me" where Jude is reminded of a Toronto specialty of days past.
Mentioned in this episode:
Cloud Atlas dir. Lana Wachowski, Tom Tykwer, Lilly Wachowski (2012)This episode uses or mentions the following multimedia samples and sources:
“Mulholland”, King Canyon "Keep On Movin'", King CanyonEdited by Aram Collier
Recorded and live mixed by Joseph Chung

Backstory Live! - THE GRIZZLIE TRUTH ft. Kat Jayme
RA26 Centrepiece Film THE GRIZZLIE TRUTH continues Kat Jayme's quixotic quest to keep the memory of the Vancouver Grizzlies alive. Reel Asian's Aram Siu Wai Collier is joined by Kat to get behind the scenes on the making of the film, the many characters met in her journeys (including "Swole Bibby"), her NBA analog, and possibly the quickest answer to our carb questionnaire. ***Conversation contains spoilers***
In the second half, Kat joins Aram for "Come Eat With Me" where Kat dishes over some dishes of tenuously related Grizzlie (and Raptors) snacks.
Mentioned in this episode:
Stories We Tell dir. Sarah Polley (2012) Cutie and the Boxer dir. Zachary Heinzerling (2013) "The Fab Five" - ESPN 30 for 30 "Friends" (you know, the TV Show)This episode uses or mentions the following multimedia samples and sources:
“Mulholland”, King Canyon "Keep On Movin'", King CanyonEdited by Aram Collier
Recorded and live mixed by Joseph Chung

Backstory Live! - RICEBOY SLEEPS ft. Anthony Shim and Seung-yoon Choi
RA26 Opening Night Film RICEBOY SLEEPS has been collecting awards on the festival circuit. Reel Asian's Aram is joined by writer/director Anthony Shim and lead actress Seung-yoon Choi to get behind the scenes on the making of the film, their inspirations, their guilty pleasures, and the eternal battle of whether rice is superior to noodles.
Anthony and Seung-yoon are the first Backstory guests to engage in a new segment called "Come Eat With Me" where our guests and host share a meal and talk shop with their mouths full, family style.
Mentioned in this episode:
Peppermint Candy dir. Lee Chang-dong (1999) City of Angels dir. Brad Silberling (1998) Norah Jones - Come Away With Me Anne Teresa De Keersmaeker / Rosas G.O.D. - Dear MotherThis episode uses or mentions the following multimedia samples and sources:
“Mulholland”, King Canyon "Keep On Movin'", King CanyonEdited by Aram Collier
Recorded and live mixed by Joseph Chung
Thumbnail photo: ALEX LUPUL / THE CANADIAN PRESS

Haunted Haw Flakes
Trick or treat? Kelly and Aram review each other’s favourite and most-loathed nostalgic Halloween candies, after sharing their memorable horror film watching experiences. Plus, some ASMR.
Happy Halloween from the Backspooky team!
Mentioned in this episode:
No Question: Unico Is The Most Horrifying Children's Movie Ever MadeThis episode uses or mentions the following multimedia samples and sources:
“Say Good Night”, Joakim Karud “Morpho Diana”, Rachel CollierEpisode cover art by Kelly Lui.

Road Trip pt. 3 with Brian Hu (San Diego Asian Film Festival)
Backstory hits up the west coast on this edition of the Road Trip series, joining Brian Hu, Artistic Director of San Diego Asian Film Festival, to discuss the long history of Asian American cinema, the importance of film criticism in a world of takes, and the future of Asian American filmmaking beyond Hollywood.
San Diego Asian Film Festival is hosted by Pacific Arts Movement. Follow them on social media @pacartsmovement.
Mentioned in this episode (get your Letterboxd ready):
Brian’s article for the LA Times: "The 20 best Asian American films of the last 20 years" Asian American Filmmaking 2000–2009 - The Criterion Channel Saturday School podcast, hosted by Brian Hu and Ada Tseng, specifically season 8 on Asian-American sci-fi My Sight Is Lined with Visions: 1990s Asian American Film & Video, curated by Keisha Knight and Abby Sun, and its accompanying Criterion Channel collection Brian’s essay for My Sight Is Lined with Visions: "They Were Asian American, But…"More from the Road Trip series:
Part 1 with Selena Yip (Philadelphia Asian American Film Festival) Part 2 with with Melissa Bisagni (Washington DC Asian Pacific American Film Festival)This episode uses or mentions the following multimedia samples and sources:
“Sailing” by Telecasted “Anything You Can Dream” by The Whole Other
Something Fishy
Aram introduces Kelly to a quintessential Asian diaspora fast food meal. Plus, a preview of what’s to come on Backstory (more mukbang?).
This episode was recorded on video! Watch it on Spotify or YouTube.
Links
Writer Jane Hu on the Filet-o-Fish and her Chinese-Canadian upbringingThis episode uses or mentions the following multimedia samples and sources:
“Say Good Night”, Joakim Karud “Morpho Diana”, Rachel Collier
Songs for the Soul-stice
Kelly and Aram are back with another highly curated (and definitely not algorithmic) selection of k-pop tracks for the summer. Recommended for finding yourself (and discovering your inner bad boy) on a late night drive.
Check out the YouTube playlist here.
Links
From the Backstory archives: S2E05: “Play Me” and last year’s playlist on YouTube and Spotify For the TXT fans: TXT’s re-enactments of Weightlifting Fairy For further reading: writer Cat Zhang on “The Endless Life Cycle of Japanese City Pop” On city pop’s influence: Did you know Out of Time by The Weeknd samples Midnight Pretenders by Tomoko Aran?This episode uses or mentions the following multimedia samples and sources:
“Say Good Night”, Joakim Karud “Morpho Diana”, Rachel CollierKelly’s picks:
Good Boy Gone Bad by TXT C.I.T.T. by Moon Byul H.S.K.T. by LeeHi feat. Wonstein Good Night Good Dream by Nerd Connection SUPER TEARS by Bakyun the everydayAram's picks:
We Ride by Brave Girls 오랜만에 by George Lilac by IU (Citypop remix) Number 1 by Loona DIVE by Luli Lee
Road Trip pt. 2 with Melissa Bisagni (Washington DC Asian Pacific American Film Festival)
Emerging from our winter and covid lockdowns, we take an audio road trip to visit with film festival friends along the East Coast. We talk about the joys and challenges of our respective cities and festivals and detail the intricacies of how the (festival) sausage gets made.
Road Trip pt. 2 features Melissa Bisagni, Festival Director at the Washington DC Asian Pacific American Film Festival.
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Backstory co-host Kelly Lui calls in from a far away place!
Music:
“Sailing” by Telecasted “Anything You Can Dream” by The Whole Other
Road Trip pt. 1 with Selena Yip (Philadelphia Asian American Film Festival)
Emerging from our winter and covid lockdowns, we take an audio road trip to visit with film festival friends along the East Coast. We talk about the joys and challenges of our respective cities and festivals and detail the intricacies of how the (festival) sausage gets made.
Road Trip pt. 1 features Selena Yip, Festival Director at the Philadelphia Asian American Film Festival.
Music:
“Sailing” by Telecasted “Anything You Can Dream” by The Whole Other
The FuturePast
Is it too late to say Happy New Year? Kelly and Aram talk about new year traditions while reflecting on the past (festival) year and look ahead to what's to come. Including a possible truce in one of their long standing conflicts?
This episode uses or mentions the following multimedia samples and sources:
View of the Valley - Trevor Garrod Aerodynamic - Daft Punk
Beans, Rice, and Everything Nice
Grayson returns to help Jen host this special Asian Media Year In Review trivia episode, with Kelly and Aram battling it out to defend their carbohydrate of choice. Happy New Year from the Backstory team!
Links
Listen to the Backstory episode on Minari. For more on familycore / parentcore. The profile on Keanu. Take this quiz to find out which Keanu Reeves character you are!This episode uses or mentions the following multimedia samples and sources:
“Say Good Night”, Joakim Karud “Morpho Diana”, Rachel Collier Beans and Rice PSA Tampopo (1985)
Unsung Untold
Aram and Kelly are joined by Tony, Althea, Ammar, Jen, and Ange to celebrate 10 years of Unsung Voices, Reel Asian’s annual summer workshop for first-time filmmakers. They reminisce over the untold challenges behind their first films, before being put to the test in a round of Unsung Voices trivia. Tune in to the very end to hear more Unsung Voices filmmakers share their favourite memories.
Follow the link here for an extended shownote and transcription: https://bit.ly/unsunguntold

Asian Representation with a Tornado Kick Twist
Ever wonder about the origins of the ninja or what it was like growing up in a video rental store in small town Ontario? Aram is joined by Grayson Lee in this episode to discuss the legacy of martial arts in cinema, Ninja Turtles merch, empowerment through orientalization, and terrible films that are also very good. Follow Grayson on Instagram @grime_ninja.
Click here for an extended shownote and transcript.
For a list of the films mentioned in this episode, check out our Letterboxd list.
This episode uses or mentions the following multimedia samples and sources:
“Say Good Night”, Joakim Karud “Morpho Diana”, Rachel Collier Jack Vs the Ninja Ninja Assasin - Raizo Saves Miko
Play Me 🖭
Aram and Kelly exchange their summer k-pop playlists to chill away the heat waves. You can find Aram and Kelly's summer mixtape here (https://bit.ly/backstory-playlist) or here (https://bit.ly/backstory-spotify-playlist).
Follow the link here for an extended shownote and episode transcript: https://bit.ly/backstory-playme
This episode uses the following multimedia samples and sources:
"Say Good Night", Joakim Karud "Morpho Diana", Rachel Collier "Haru Haru", Big Bang "View", SHINee
Have You Seen This?
Kelly walks Aram through his first (and perhaps last?) watch of CRASH LANDING ON YOU, 2019’s love story of the year (arguably). Will his love for the show crash and burn, or paraglide and land on his summer heart?
This episode includes spoilers to the show CRASH LANDING ON YOU (2019). If you liked the format, please do check out Too Long; Didn’t Watch (@tldwpod on Twitter), whose podcast gave us the inspiration for this episode.
Content Warning: minor swearing
Follow the link here for an extended shownote and episode transcript: http://bit.ly/backstory-cloy
This episode uses the following multimedia samples and sources:
"Say Good Night", Joakim Karud "Morpho Diana", Rachel Collier Episode 16 of CRASH LANDING ON YOU (2019)
One Year Later (feat. kim hayung, Khanh Tudo, Seb Decter)
It has been a year, and so many things have happened between then and now. In this episode, Aram and Kelly talk to filmmakers and programmers who continued to create art through the past year.
Follow the link here for an extended shownote and episode transcript: http://bit.ly/backstory-1yearlater
You can find hayung (@kimhayungg) and Insomniac Festival (@insomniac_fest) on Twitter and Instagram.
This episode uses the following multimedia samples and sources:
“Say Good night”, Joakim Karud "Morpho Diana", Rachel Collier
The Serious Funny Business (feat. Franco Nguyen of TallBoyz)
Aram and Kelly talk with Franco about the new season of the sketch comedy show TALLBOYZ and the serious business of being funny.
You can find Franco on Instagram and Twitter @francowins, and you can watch the second season of TallBoyz for free on CBC Gem.
Follow the link here for an extended shownote and episode transcript: http://bit.ly/s2e3-shownotes
This episode uses the following multimedia samples and sources:
“Say Good night”, Joakim Karud "Morpho Diana", Rachel Collier "This is MY Chinatown", Arthur Yeung SUITE SUITE CHINATOWN. Dir. Aram Collier
Minari-acting
Aram and Kelly (and Seungwoo) talk about MINARI (2020) and give their earnest first reacts.
Follow the link here for an extended shownote and episode transcript: http://bit.ly/s2e2-shownotes
This episode uses the following multimedia samples and sources:
“Say Good night”, Joakim Karud "Morpho Diana", Rachel Collier "Rain Song", Emile Mosseri, Han Ye-ri
New Karate Kids on the Block
A new year is upon us. We are back and so is Karate Kid. Aram and Seungwoo talk about how they ushered in their new years, and why Cobra Kai was a part of the good beginning.
Content Warning: minor swearing.
Follow the link here for an extended shownote and episode transcript: http://bit.ly/s2e1-shownotes
This episode uses the following multimedia samples and sources:
“Say Good night”, Joakim Karud "Morpho Diana", Rachel Collier "Oasis" Excerpt from "Mercy" (Cobra Kai, S1E10)
We’re Back! The Reel Asian Film Festival in 2020
At the end of a momentous year, Kelly and Aram take a moment to reflect on what 2020 meant for the Reel Asian Film Festival and bring along some friends for the ride. First, guests Mimi Vuong and Josephine Cruz, the digital producers behind the scenes of Reel Asian’s digital festival. Meanwhile, we searched the farthest reaches of the globe to get an audience member’s perspective from superfan James Goh. In our last segment, Kelly and Aram share their own thoughts on what got them through the year and the carb questionnaire.
Content Warning: mild swearing
Follow the link here for an extended show note (incl. guest bios) and episode transcript: https://bit.ly/398tPIo
This episode uses or mentions the following multimedia samples and sources:
“Say Good night”, Joakim Karud "It's Only Love that Gets You Through", by Sade “Feel The Rhythm of Korea”, by Leenalchi and Ambiguous Dance Company "Anpanman", by BTS "Hug (Rock Version)", by SeventeenThis episode was produced and edited by Aram Collier.

Irrational Summer Loves: It's Love that Never Ends
In preparation for his summer movie showdown last month, Aram had trained for weeks on end. He’s visited every local waterfall to train under, sparred with burning logs and smouldering bbq pits, and reached out to his closest confidants about their secret takes on Karate Kid II. In this episode, Aram shares with Backstory podcast the conversations he’s had with his friends and loved ones about their shared nostalgia and memories of Karate Kid II.
Content Warning: mild swearing
Follow the link here for an extended show note and episode transcript: http://bit.ly/ep6b-shownote
This episode uses the following multimedia samples and sources:
“Main Title”, The Karate Kid Part II - Original Score, by Bill Conti “Honor Very Serious”, The Karate Kid Part II - Original Score, by Bill Conti “Daniel’s Triumph”, The Karate Kid Part II - Original Score, by Bill Conti
Irrational Summer Loves
Aram and Kelly share their summer movie picks with each other. What starts out as a congenial display of friendship and shared love for the cinema devolves into a thunderdome-styled fight to the bitter end of their friendship in defense of their honour and film tastes.
Content Warning: horror, violence on screen, gore, decapitation, body mutilation, nudity, death
Follow the link here for extended show notes and the episode transcript: https://bit.ly/ep6-shownote
This episode uses the following multimedia samples and sources:
KARATE KID PART II (1986), dir. John G. Avildsen HAUSU (1977), dir. Nobuhiko Obayashi STAR TREK III: THE SEARCH FOR SPOCK (1984), dir. Leonard Nimoy "Be Mine", by Amine Maxwell "All The Stars", by Kendrick Lamar, SZA "Main Title: Theme from 'Jaws'", by John Williams
Big Sky, Wild Mushrooms (feat. Howie Shia, Anne Koizumi) -- pt. 2
Aram and Kelly continue their talk with animator extraordinaire Howie Shia and master puppeteer Anne Koizuimi in an attempt to answer the question: "what is an animation?” This episode includes Anne Koizumi's live commentary of IN THE SHADOW OF THE PINES (https://youtu.be/nI85ahkSmSA). The first part of the conversation included Howie Shia's live commentary of MARCO’S ORIENTAL NOODLES (https://youtu.be/IobYgrLpCX8). Both of their works can be found on YouTube and on CBC Gem.
Follow the link here for an extended show notes and episode transcript: https://bit.ly/ep5-shownote
This episode uses the following multimedia samples and sources:
SPIRITED AWAY (2001), dir. Hayao Miyazaki IN THE SHADOW OF THE PINES (2020), dir. Anne Koizumi “Say Good night”, Joakim Karud “Jar Hut”, Morusque
Big Sky, Wild Mushrooms (feat. Howie Shia, Anne Koizumi) -- pt. 1
Aram and Kelly talk with animator extraordinaire Howie Shia and master puppeteer Anne Koizuimi in an attempt to answer the question: "what is an animation?” This episode includes Howie Shia's live commentary of MARCO’S ORIENTAL NOODLES (https://youtu.be/IobYgrLpCX8). The second part of this conversation, which includes Anne Koizumi's live commentary of IN THE SHADOW OF THE PINES (https://youtu.be/nI85ahkSmSA), will be available next week. Both of their works can be found on YouTube and on CBC Gem.
Follow the link here for an extended show notes and episode transcript: https://bit.ly/ep4-shownote
This episode uses the following multimedia samples and sources:
AGO Creative Minds: Art and Social Justice (LINK) MARCO'S ORIENTAL NOODLES (2017). Dir. Howie Shia “Say Good night”, Joakim Karud “Jar Hut”, Morusque "Slowly", Smith the Mister
#untiltomorrow (feat. Chris Chin)
In celebration of Asian Heritage Month, Aram and Kelly take a trip down memory lane(s) to reconnect with friends of the festival. They talk with Chris Chin, festival and operations manager for Reel Asian, about the festival's latest archival campaign "#untiltomorrow", which bring together works featured at past Toronto Reel Asian International Film Festival.
Content Warning: light swearing
Follow the link here for an extended shownote and episode transcript: https://bit.ly/ep3-shownote
Visit us at reelasian.com/untiltomorrow for more information.
This episode uses the following multimedia samples and sources:
BLADE RUNNER (1982), dir. Ridley Scott “Say Good Night”, Joakim Karud “Jar Hut”, Morusque “Warm Water”, Underbelly “Guitar Loop_rnbchord”, TRHZ
Creative2Creative, Take One (feat. Albert Shin, Gloria Ui Young Kim) -- pt. 2
We continue on our conversation with Albert Shin and Gloria Ui Young Kim, delving deeper into the themes of creative distance and formative films. Albert and Gloria interview each other and become the first ever guests to make the gauntlet run of “7 RA Questions”.
Follow the link here for the episode transcript: https://bit.ly/backstory-ep2-transcript
Content Warning: mention of abuse, sexual violence, kidnapping.
Plugs
Disappearance at Clifton Hill (2019) is now available for streaming and download on iTunes, Google Play, and other major digital platforms in Canada. Watch the trailer at https://youtu.be/TjNYN5bqi8I. Queen of the Morning Calm (2019) will have a virtual screening on May 28th, at 9PM Eastern Time, hosted by the Canadian Film Fest. Check it out on SuperChannel. Watch the trailer at https://youtu.be/pILn_gorUHY.This episode uses the following multimedia samples and sources:
"Paul Newman", Inside the Actors Studio (1994), Dir. Lou Del Prete "Say Good Night", Joakim Karud "Jar Hut", Morusque
Creative2Creative, Take One (feat. Albert Shin, Gloria Ui Young Kim) -- pt. 1
In this inaugural episode, Aram and Kelly host Albert Shin (Disappearance at Clifton Hill) and Gloria Ui Young Kim (Queen of the Morning Calm) to talk about their respective works. Albert and Gloria interview each other and become the first ever guests to make the gauntlet run of “7 RA Questions”.
Follow the link here for the episode transcript: https://bit.ly/backstory-ep1-transcript
Content Warning: mention of abuse, sexual violence, kidnapping.
Plugs
Disappearance at Clifton Hill (2019) will be available for streaming and download starting May 4th on iTunes, Google Play, and other major digital platforms in Canada. Watch the trailer at https://youtu.be/TjNYN5bqi8I. Queen of the Morning Calm (2019) will have a virtual screening on May 28th, at 9PM Eastern Time, hosted by the Canadian Film Fest. Check it out on SuperChannel. Watch the trailer at https://youtu.be/pILn_gorUHY.This episode uses the following multimedia samples and sources:
Love Letter (1995), Dir. Shunji Iwai Disappearance at Clifton Hill (2019), Dir. Albert Shin Queen of the Morning Calm (2019), Dir. Gloria Ui Young Kim "Say Good Night", Joakim Karud "Jar Hut", Morusque
Backstory
This is where our story begins.
We will be here last Thursday of every month, with a few exceptions.
Backstory podcast is written and hosted by Aram Collier and Kelly Lui. It's edited and produced by Seungwoo Baek, and is presented by Toronto Reel Asian International Film Festival. If you have any questions or want to say hey, reach out to us at backstory.ra@gmail.com.
The episode uses a sample of "Welcome" by Anno Domini Beats.