
Behaviorbabe
By Behaviorbabe
Behaviorbabe (aka Dr. Amanda Kelly) is an ethical advocate for the accurate dissemination and application of behavior analysis. Dr. Kelly is a PhD-level, Board Certified Behavior Analyst (BCBA-D); the first to be licensed in the state of Hawai’i. This podcast features conversations, discussions, and brief presentations by Dr. Kelly related to behavior analysis, education, sustainability, public policy, and more. For more great info, visit www.behaviorbabe.com.

Behaviorbabe Oct 05, 2020
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19:15

Nasiah Cirincione-Ulezi on Doing the Work
Dr. Nasiah Cirincione-Ulezi joins the show to discuss what it means to show up authentically and what it looks like to “do the work”. Dr. Cirincione-Ulezi talks about how “doing the work” means learning to sit with one’s emotions —even when they don’t feel so good. Dr. Cirincione-Ulezi shares how, through the use of ACT, she is learning to evaluate the rules in her life, explore their origin, and to sit with the discomfort of doing so. Dr. Cirincione-Ulezi describes the rewards of doing the work for her are freedom, self-expression, and perhaps a bit more joy from embracing ones own humanness. To learn more about Dr. Cirincione-Ulezi visit inquiry-inc.com.
Sep 17, 202339:10

Rashida Biera on Hue-man Expressions
Rashida Biera joins the show to discuss her frustration —which turned into inspiration. While working as a technician and now analyst, Rashida realized there were not (m)any instructional materials representing children or adults who were black or brown. Many images and instructional materials either featured stick figures, cartoons, or images depicting white individuals. Rashida, along with the artistic talents of her husband sought to change that by creating Hue-Man Expressions. Hue-Man Expressions uses high-quality, detailed images and educational materials featuring black and brown kids and adults for use in therapy and instructional sessions. These materials are great for ABA therapy, speech therapy, and special education lessons. To learn more visit www.huemanexpressions.com.
Aug 06, 202331:51

Jerome Chiu on Establishing Standards of Care
In this episode, Jerome Chiu joins the show to talk about the need and value for establishing standards of care in the field of applied behavior analysis. Jerome shares knowledge he’s gained serving as an advocate and clinician, as well as from his experiences working for major health plans. From his vantage point, Jerome shares what he sees as concerns for our field, as well as identifies some solutions for moving the field forward. Jerome has a breadth of experience advocating and working with agencies on elevating clinical and operational outcomes. To learn more about the work he and his incredible team are doing visit www.RadBX.com.
May 11, 202341:20

Patricia Wright on the Theory of Well-Being
Dr. Patricia Wright joins the show to share about her new role at Proof Positive and how she’s committed to improving well-being for the autism community. After 40 years in the field, Dr. Wright shares that she is not seeing the life outcomes she was expecting. With mental health impacting many adults, she found herself asking, “What can we do”. In this episode Dr. Wright discusses the PERMA™ theory of well-being and the importance of learning techniques to increase overall health and happiness —for ourselves and our clients. To learn more, visit www.ProofPositive.org.
Apr 04, 202336:20

Dash McKenzie on Expressing Ourselves Through Art
In this episode, Dash joins the show to share his passion for art. He discusses how he designs his creations and the inspiration behind his artistic expressions. On the show, Dash shares his specific style of animated art. He and Dr. Kelly also discuss their mutual love of art and fondness for having lived in Hawai’i, as well as to what Dash is up to now. To see some of Dash’s creations and to continue the conversations, visit www.patreon.com/Behaviorbabe.
Mar 16, 202328:29

Tyra Sellers on Professionalism & Taking the Reigns at APBA
Dr. Tyra Sellers joins the show and shares about her “twisty turny, incredible journey” in behavior analysis. Dr. Sellers also discusses the beauty of choice-making (even when we make the wrong choice), which we won’t know until we “check it in the rearview”. On the show, Dr. Sellers further explores topographical definitions of “professionalism” and discusses how traditional parameters around professionalism have historically been used to “other” people. In addition, Dr. Sellers describes the growing pains our field is going through and shares her hopes for the future, as we move forward with her in the role of CEO for the Association of Professional Behavior Analysts (APBA).
Feb 25, 202345:07

Emaley McCulloch on Entrepreneurship
Emaley McCulloch joins the show to discuss with Dr. Kelly her path as an entrepreneur. Emaley details the experiences she had working in schools in Honolulu and Japan, which led to her creating Autism Training Solutions, which later became known as Relias. Since then Emaley has continued to pursue her mission to disseminate and elevate the field, currently creating magic through her work at Motivity. Listen in as Emaley takes us on an exciting adventure, otherwise known as her career as an entrepreneur. To connect with Emaley, you can email her at emaleymcculloch@gmail.com. To learn more about the exciting work she and her team are working on now, visit www.motivity.net.
Feb 14, 202341:52

Join the Behaviorbabe Community
It's me Behaviorbabe here and I just wanted to take a quick opportunity to thank you for following me, for listening to the podcast, and for supporting me in my dissemination efforts through all these years, or however long you've been following along. I want to let you know about a new Patreon membership, it is going to be a group of Behavior”babes”, which is open to everyone. I want you to come with me if you're craving conversations, common sense, and actual solutions to the problems we are all facing —as a field and as an industry… Come! Come join in the conversations and let's help execute the solutions we know our clients deserve, that we deserve, and that these systems so desperately need. Join today at the discounted monthly rate www.patreon.com/Behaviorbabe.
Feb 12, 202300:54

Jessica Minahan on Understanding the Impact of Anxiety on Behavior
In this episode, Dr. Jessica Minahan returns to the podcast to talk with Dr. Kelly about trauma, anxiety, and (non-traditional) ABA. In this episode, she shares how traditional ABA strategies can exacerbate behaviors when trauma or anxiety are the underlying cause. Jessica emphasizes that while incentives can help change behavior, they don’t teach skills. Listen to this episode to hear lessons learned over the years as well as strategies Jessica’s found to be effective when working with people whose behaviors are fueled by trauma and/or anxiety. To learn more, visit www.JessicaMinahan.com.
Feb 09, 202341:02

Quality Indicators of an ABA Program
In this episode, Dr. Kelly reviews 30 Quality Indicators of an ABA program. To access additional resources on this topic, visit www.behaviorbabe.com.
Jan 25, 202307:03

Antecedent Interventions
In this episode, Dr. Kelly discusses antecedent Interventions. Antecedent Interventions are those strategies, which are aimed at preventing challenging behavior from occurring. The focus is on strengthening deficient repertoires, while systematically increasing task demands and difficulty. For more information, visit www.behaviorbabe.com.
Jan 23, 202310:10

Science According to Skinner
In this episode, Dr. Kelly brings us back to our roots and reads us some Skinner quotes, specifically related to science and our roles as scientists from his text “Science and Human Behavior”. For more information about B.F. Skinner check out the B.F. Skinner Foundation at www.bfskinner.org. For more information about ABA visit www.behaviorbabe.com.
Jan 21, 202308:36

Ethics of Effective Collaboration
In this episode, Dr. Kelly shares some quick tips on how to work with others who don’t want to work with you. To learn more visit www.behaviorbabe.com.
Jan 17, 202312:54

Darlene Crone-Todd on Gaslighting
In this episode Dr. Darlene Crone-Todd speaks on gaslighting from a behavior analytic lens. Crone-Todd discusses the ethics of behavior change and gaslighting within organizational systems. Other topics also discussed include the research to practice gap, Pop culture, and the power of philosophizing. To learn more about applied behavior analysis, visit www.behaviorbabe.com.
Jan 01, 202323:02

Dana Meller on Studying for the Exam & Preparing Students for the Future
Dana (pronounced Donna) Meller joins the show to share her experiences as a behavior analyst who focuses on exam preparation. What started as an in-person support, shifted to being online to reach a broader audience. Dana shares how the materials turned into the manual and lectures turned into video and audio recordings. She reflects back on her experiences helping others over these past 10 years. Dana also discusses how the field has changed and what professors and mentors can do to excite their students about the field. There’s also a bonus discussion about the toxicity of social media —and yet our need for it to exist. To learn more about Dana and the great work she does, visit passthebigabaexam.com.
Dec 21, 202237:31

Wes Lowery on Team ABA
Wes Lowery joins the show to share how he blends his passion for sports, health and fitness and his love for behavior analysis. In this episode, Wes describes how he began branching outside of transitional autism research, with support from mentors during his ABA graduate program. From there, Wes connected with others in the field by attending conferences, eventually pairing up with Kirk Kirby. Both armed with a desire to extend the powerful effects of our science to new populations, including professional athletes. After checking out this episode, you can learn more about “Team ABA” and the incredible work they are doing by visiting www.TeamABAllc.com. Be sure to also follow them on their various social media handles @teamaballc @teamabauniversity and @teamabawellness.
Dec 19, 202240:08

Why Don’t We Participate in Public Policy
In this episode, Dr. Kelly seeks to answer the question, “Why don’t behavior analyst participate in public policy more than we do”. Dr. Kelly details problems with participation and offers a behavior analytic approach to addressing these barriers. To learn more, visit www.behaviorbabe.com.
Dec 12, 202213:24

Mandy Ralston on Non-Binary Solutions
Amanda “Mandy” Ralston joins the show to discuss her new adventure “Non-Binary Solutions”. Mandy and Dr. Kelly discuss autism service delivery in the late 90’s and the impact autism insurance had on the growth in the field. They also discuss the beauty of seeing the world as multi-dimensional, and non-binary. When making clinical decisions, and practicing medicine, there’s often not one right answer, but several; whether that’s choosing an assessment for a client or a feedback tool for a supervisee. Mandy shares her experiences as an “ABA Dinosaur” and tells how she’s using these experiences to develop scalable solutions for our field. To learn more about Mandy, visit https://www.nonbinarysolutions.com, or find her on Instagram at amemeda_ralston.
Dec 05, 202232:12

Audrey Bridgeman on Demystifying the Treatment Planning Process
Audrey Bridgeman, Director of Communications for Brightkyte joins the show and shares tips for how behavior analysts can simplify the treatment planning process. Together, Audrey and Dr. Kelly discuss the value of storytelling in treatment planning, emphasizing the art –as well as the science behind building successful treatment plans. In this episode, Audrey, and Dr. Kelly further explore topics such as how to prioritize the information in treatment plans, how to successfully navigate peer reviews, and how important it is to trust one’s own clinical judgement. To learn more about our upcoming Treatment Planning courses, visit tinyurl.com/BehaviorbabeTxPlanMasterClass.
Nov 29, 202236:11

Justin Leaf on Ensuring a Bright Future for Our Field
In this episode, Dr. Justin Leaf joins the show to discuss concerns within our field and to offer suggestions for how we can propel our practice forward. Leaf reminds us to select socially significant treatment targets and to be flexible when implementing (rigid) treatment protocols. Leaf also encourages us to be okay being uncomfortable, to be open-minded and willing to engage in professional discourse with each other. To connect with Dr. Leaf, follow him online @authenticABA. To learn more about ABA, visit www.behaviorbabe.com.
Nov 06, 202235:33

Ryan Hoesten on Connecting and Collaborating
In this episode, Ryan Hoesten joins the show to discuss what it’s like being a speech language pathologist. Ryan shares information about his background, including experiences working in a pediatric unit specializing in feeding and swallowing disorders and with augmentative and alternative communication (AAC) systems. For the last five years, Ryan has worked alongside various professionals providing treatment for autistic individuals. In this episode, Ryan discusses what it’s like to take a collaborative approach —sharing with us his successes connecting with others, even when principles/opinions from different professions/professionals conflict.
Oct 31, 202237:45

Jonathan Tarbox on ACT & Creating Kindness
In this episode, Dr. Jonathan Tarbox joins the show to discuss Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT), as well as how to empirically evaluate kindness when working with clients. Tarbox provides an overview of ACT, offers suggestions for readings, and encourages analysts to get started by trying strategies on themselves. Tarbox further discusses his interests in evaluating how we can improve the perception of our behavior analytic interventions. Listen to this episode if you want to learn more about ACT, creating kindness, and maintaining a healthy dose of philosophic doubt while doing it all. For other information related to ABA, please check out www.behaviorbabe.com.
Oct 19, 202236:14

Carter Keegan on Autism and the Animal Kingdom
Carter Keegan returns to discuss updates in his life as an autistic adult. He details his journey, sharing struggles and successes, including his recent college graduation and his long-term relationship with his girlfriend, Tiffany. In this episode, Carter shares his affection for Disney movies and tells how being with “old friends” (even for 45 minutes) can be peaceful and calming. Carter also describes his connection and interest with animals, which started early in his childhood. Carter shares lessons we all can learn from observing and studying animals and the animal kingdom.
Oct 15, 202238:43

E. Scott Geller on Actively Caring
In this episode, Dr. E. Scott Geller joins the show and shares passionately about what they describe as Actively Caring. Active = behavior; Caring - Humanism. Geller describes themselves as a Behavioral Scientist and encourages others to do the same. Geller advocates for better marketing and more effective dissemination of behavioral science. Geller engages listeners with stories of daily, real-life applications from his personal experiences and shares outcomes associated with Actively Caring-based interventions. To learn more about Dr. Geller, please visit www.ac4p.com. To contact him, email esgeller@vt.edu.
Oct 03, 202234:55

Shane Spiker on Self Care and Saying No
In this episode, Shane Spiker joins Dr. Kelly for a discussion on self care and learning how to say no. Shane discusses the benefits to creating a verbal community as well as some strategies for starting on the path to improved self care. Learn more at www.behaviorbabe.com.
Sep 28, 202228:19

Angela Coreil on Clinical Behavior Analysis
Angela Coreil joins the show to share her experiences in the realm of clinical behavior analysis. Originally a psychologist by trade, now an analyst by training, Angela shares how she blends her knowledge and skill sets to treat clients with diagnosis and disorders not commonly associated with behavior analysis. To learn more about Angela and the work her team does, visit behavior-behavior.org.
Sep 19, 202229:44

Patricia Wright on Cultural Humility
In this episode, Dr. Patricia Wright discusses the difference between cultural competence and cultural humility. Wright shares how culture can be social habits, religion, language, and beyond. For behavior analysts, being culturally aware includes adapting our language, especially when we are working with other professions or cultures. Wright shares some of her own missteps and lessons learned, modeling for us all how we can become more humble. To learn more, visit www.behaviorbabe.com.
Sep 11, 202238:39

Amy Evans on Getting the Party Charted
In this episode, Amy Evans joins Dr. Kelly to describe and discuss Precision Teaching, Instructional Design and what she means by getting the party charted! Amy fluidly describes the benefits of measuring fluency when teaching and learning new skills. Amy shares her journey as an expert in these areas and outlines what lies ahead for herself and the field! To learn more about PT, SSC, and Amy visit www.octavetraining.com.
Aug 31, 202236:07

Saundra Bishop on Trauma Informed Treatment
In this episode, Saundra Bishop joins the show to discuss trauma informed treatment. Bishop has been certified 13 years as a behavior analyst. Yet, she reflects on how being a foster parent led her to shift how she views and delivers ABA services. In this episode, Bishop discusses the importance of taking a trauma informed approach to treatment, providing clear and concise examples and descriptions for listeners. Other topics also discussed include early career analysts, the role of licensure, and the importance of being involved with your state chapter. To learn more visit more about Saundra Bishop, the work she does, or the resources she offers, visit www.basicsabatherapy.com.
Aug 25, 202235:12

Rick Kubina on the Power of Precision Teaching
In this episode, Dr. Rick Kubina joins the show to discuss precision teaching; why it’s useful and what makes him so passionate about the science. Together, they review the barriers and benefits to dissemination, the value of standardizing measurement, and the future of our science. To learn more, check out www.behaviorbabe.com. To access a list of Dr. Kubina’s publications, visit centralreach.com/publications-dr-rick-kubina/. To contact Dr. Kubina, you can email him at rmk11@psu.edu.
Aug 17, 202237:15

Leanne Page on Parenting with ABA
In this episode, Leanne Page from “Parenting with ABA” sits down with Dr. Kelly. Leanne talks about parenting advice and how much of it relies on punishment and is often based on our own experiences. Through her dissemination and education efforts, Leanne helps parents save their sanity by embedding positive practices based on the science of behavior analysis into their everyday interactions. Learn more at www.parentingwithABA.org.
Aug 05, 202217:07

Becoming a Behavior Analyst - My Story
In this episode, Dr. Kelly shares her journey to becoming a behavior analyst. To learn more about applied behavior analysis, visit www.behaviorbabe.com.
Aug 01, 202208:56

Meme Hieneman on Taking a Proactive Approach to Teaching
Meme Hieneman joins the show to discuss her career as a behavior analyst, which includes a long history with positive behavior support (PBS). Hieneman, originally certified in the 1980’s as an analyst, practiced in the field of behavior analysis until her passing. “Although she battled cancer for many years, she remained fully engaged, creating beautiful memories with her loved ones.” This episode was recorded on March 8, 2021. Hieneman, at age 55, passed away on August 5, 2021. To learn more about Hieneman’s contributions and the resources mentioned in the episode, visit www.hcpbs.org.
Jul 28, 202238:53

Lorna Murdock on Adulting on the Spectrum
In this episode, Lorna Murdock joins the show to discuss the inspiration behind her site “Adulting on the Spectrum”. Lorna shares her experiences with her daughters autism diagnosis and shares how the lack of meaningful, appropriate resources led her to create her own. To learn more about Lorna, visit www.adultingonthespectrum.com.
Jul 26, 202230:44

David Warner on Autism, Advocacy, and Running for Office
David Warner, Autism Parent Advocate, joins the show to share his perspectives and experiences with parenting, navigating the world of autism and ABA, becoming a parent advocate, and his journey running for office.
Jul 23, 202231:25

Debbie Sutherland on “The Business of Ambiguity”
In this episode Dr. Debbie Sutherland joins the show to discuss key thinking and behavior strategies within organizational systems, which are outlined in their book, “The Business of Ambiguity”. Gleaning from their experiences working in diverse fields, such as aviation, tech, and renewable energy, Sutherland also obtains insight by interviewing several successful business executives. In this episode Sutherland discusses how we can develop the ambiguity mindset, approach situations with curiosity, and become a connective communicator. To learn more about Dr. Debbie Sutherland, visit www.BehaviorsInBusiness.com.
Jul 22, 202238:39

Applications of ABA | Applied Behavior Analysis
Applied behavior Analysis (ABA) is the problem-solving, scientific approach to challenges that are relevant to individuals, communities, and society. Likely the most well-known application of applied behavior analysis is its use with individuals with autism. However the umbrella of this behavioral science extends much broader. Since the 20th century ABA has been pivotal in helping us to identify and achieve socially significant change. The past has been powerful and the future is still unwritten.
Jul 02, 202205:24

Mark Sundberg on Sorting Out the Verbal Operants
In this episode, Dr. Mark Sundberg joins the show to discuss the assessment and treatment of language disorders, the history of verbal behavior, and key components of strong university programs. Sundberg gives us a basic breakdown of the verbal operants, shares how the VBMAPP originated, and details how the next iteration of the assessment will focus of generative learning. To learn more about Dr. Sundberg visit www.marksundberg.com. To learn more about behavior analysis, visit www.behaviorbabe.com.
Jun 13, 202231:46

Ellie Kazemi on Performance Feedback and Artificial Intelligence
In this episode, Dr. Ellie Kazemi joins the show and shares how they started a university program and published THE book on supervision. In addition, Kazemi also shares their interests in engineering and artificial intelligence. Visit klab-csun.weebly.com to learn more about Dr. Kazemi.
Jun 08, 202220:55

Shari Adler on Trauma Informed Treatment
In this episode, Dr. Kelly discusses trauma informed treatment with Shari Adler. Shari provides listeners with definitions, descriptions, and an in-depth discussion on the topic of trauma informed care.
May 20, 202220:31

Janice Chan on Classroom PRT (CPRT)
In this episode Janice Chan sits down with Dr. Kelly to discuss classroom Pivotal Response Training. In this episode, Janice shares similarities and differences between a DTT and PRT approach to instruction. Janice also describes some strategies for teachers who are looking to implement CPRT in their classrooms. To learn more visit www.classroomprt.org.
May 17, 202220:21

Rose Griffin on Being an SLP & BCBA
In this episode, Rose Griffin details her journey of becoming a speech language pathologist (SLP) AND board certified behavior analyst (BCBA). Rose describes her experiences and how she finds the two fields as complimentary to one another. Rose shares advice and resources for anyone else who may be interested in a similar path. Learn more at www.ABAspeech.org and www.supervisionacademy.com.
May 16, 202229:28

Eileen Lamb on Cyberbullying in the Autism Community
In this episode Eileen Lamb, author, photographer, artist, and mom speaks with Dr. Kelly about her family’s journey with autism. Eileen, proud mom of two boys, shares her experiences living in France and now in Texas —Austin to be exact. In this episode, Eileen shares her own journey to receiving an autism diagnosis, as well as being a mom to two boys on the spectrum. Eileen describes the good, the bad, and the ugly: detailing the cyberbullying attacks she has been a victim of when publicly promoting ABA for her boys. Eileen details some of the horrific comments made to her and shares how she has learned to navigate the negativity, creating a safe space for parents (and community members) who want to engage in meaningful and respectful dialogue. To learn more about Eileen and the great work she does, please visit www.theautismcafe.com (@theautismcafe).
Apr 25, 202240:17

Behaviorbabe on What Students Should Read
In this episode, Dr. Kelly offers some suggestions for students studying behavior analysis. From the 7 Dimensions (1968, 1987) to The Rights to Effective Behavioral Treatment (1988), Dr. Kelly suggests articles. In addition, Dr. Kelly offers suggestions for quick references (Behavior Speak) and books related to specific concepts (VB Approach, The Behavior Code). Of course, we all need The White Book and access to the writings of BF Skinner. Learn more at www.behaviorbabe.com.
Mar 31, 202216:50

What is ABA | 7 Dimensions
In this podcast, Dr. Amanda Kelly reviews the basic characteristics of ABA [applied behavior analysis]. To learn more visit www.behaviorbabe.com.
Mar 25, 202206:33

Rachel Kramer Speaks on TXABA
In this episode, Rachel Kramer, Executive Director of the Texas Association for Behavior Analysis, joins Dr. Kelly to discuss her passion in the field, her involvement with her state association, and to share news about their upcoming conference, which will be hosted in April in Dallas, TX. To learn more please visit www.TXABA.org.
Mar 09, 202227:53

Welcome Back - 2022
Plenty of fresh, updated and engaging content headed your way in 2022!
Mar 08, 202200:52

Laurie McLay on How to Get a Good Night’s Sleep
In this episode, Dr. McLay joins Dr. Kelly to discuss improving sleep behaviors (for your children and yourself). McLay shares information about the sleep study research her and her colleagues at the University of Canterbury are conducting with children and adolescents with autism and rare genetic disorders. In this episode, McLay shares three key areas for assessing and improving sleep: sleep-wake cycle, sleep efficiency/hygiene, and consequences for “curtain calls” or middle of the night awakenings. McLay speaks specifically to sleep disruptions during COVID19 and how parents can help their children (and themselves). To learn more, visit www.behaviorbabe.com. For anyone who wishes to reach out to Dr. McLay directly, she can be contacted at Laurie.mclay@canterbury.ac.nz.
Feb 28, 202234:16

Jessica Minahan on Treating Anxiety & Trauma in Public Schools
In this episode, Jessica Minahan talks with Dr. Kelly about treating anxiety and trauma in public school settings. Jessica discusses the challenges teachers face and how traditional strategies may not succeed. She also provides an explanation of these phenomena as well as some strategies for intervening, particularly for students on public school campuses. To learn more, visit www.jessicaminahan.com.
Feb 17, 202243:28

Abigail Calkin on Inner Behavior
In this episode, Dr. Abigail Calkin shares her journey with behavior analysis studying inner behavior. Having been a student and colleague of Dr. Ogden Lindsley, Calkin learned first hand the value of the standard celeration chart and precision teaching on shifting one’s own covert verbal behavior. To learn more visit abigailbcalkin.com.
Feb 04, 202230:57