
The Drop
By Believe in the Run

The DropOct 01, 2021

212 | Frank Sanchez, Physician and Runner
Frank Sanchez is Chief Physician Associate-Cardiothoracic Surgery at University of Miami Transplant for Heart and Lung adult and pediatrics. With 25 years of experience, he has had the pleasure of taking care of the Miami football team at one point and currently is the Medical Director for LifeTime Fitness running and endurance events including Miami Marathon and Half. He is also a 7x Ironman finisher and 16x marathon finisher as well as a USA Triathlon coach and XC coach. We answer listener questions that hopefully help with your training and race day performance.

211 | Karissa Schweizer, Nike Athlete
Karissa Schweizer is an American middle- and long-distance runner, Olympian and World Record holder in the women's 4x1500 meters relay. She competed in the 2020 Tokyo Olympics in the 5000 meters and 10,000 meters events finishing 11th and 12th, respectively. In 2020, she set the indoor 3000 meters American Record with a time of 8:25.70.

210 | Thanksgiving Turkey Trots, Flute Fun and Dreamcatchers, Running in the Cold
The team gears up for some Turkey Trots and The Running Event, discusses the new Andre 3000 album, and gives you their thoughts about running in the cold. We also discuss some of the mishaps at the Philadelphia Half Marathon. No new shoe this week, but we'll be back with tons of shoe craziness from the Running Event next week.
Lagoon Pillows is how we get our good sleep. Right now you can save $50 on a Performance Pack or $75 on the Peak Sleep Set. Shop here: https://lagoonsleep.com/believe

209 | Tommie Runz, PR Project
If you know us, you know him. Tommie Runz is a runner and founder of the PR Project and The Run Eat Sleep Show. His running journey began in 2018 after choosing a life of sobriety in 2017, in addition to practicing veganism. He's also a frequent co-host of the Relay podcast, where he discusses running and life with other members of the collective.
Follow Tommie on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tommie_runz
Learn more about him: https://www.tommierunz.com/

208 | On Cloudeclipse, Tommy Bahama, Swifties Gone Wild
Some of us went on a bougie vacation to the islands last week, others ran 90 miles (you can probably guess which ones). Thomas makes us jealous with his tales of the Caribbean life, Robbe gets out his pent-up frustrations on the ubiquity of Taylor Swift in all aspects of life, and Meg just wants to listen to country music in peace. We also talk about the On Cloudeclipse, a shoe in which Meg has already logged 100 miles.
Lagoon Pillows is how we get our good sleep. Right now you can save $50 on a Performance Pack or $75 on the Peak Sleep Set. Shop here: https://lagoonsleep.com/believe
Learn more about Winter GRIT: Space Odyssey ➡ https://www.believeintherun.com/grit
Pick up the Nathan Speeddraw, the only good handheld water bottle ➡ https://bit.ly/SHOP-NATHAN-SPEEDDRAW

207 | Michael Ko (aka Kofuzi), YouTube Creator
No introduction needed, Kofuzi is a now-legend in the shoe reviewer space and our favorite YouTuber out there. Outside of shoe reviews, he's also one of our favorite people to hang out with because he's 100% always down for a good time. Which is what we do on this episode of The Drop. Check out Kofuzi's channel: https://www.youtube.com/@kofuzi

206 | New York City Marathon Recap & New Balance SC Elite v4
Is the New York City Marathon weekend a national holiday? At this point, it should be. Our last stop on the train to NYC took us right into the heart of marathon weekend, where we met and hung out with so many of you. From the expo to the shake out run with New Balance to the marathon itself, we're not sure anything can top what just went down. Hear all about our full in-depth recap of the weekend and the race itself, and forgive us if we get a little lost along the way.
Special thanks to New Balance and New York Road Runners, and of course, to all of you. We really have a special community of runners and couldn't do it it without your support.
Lagoon Pillows is how we get our good sleep. Right now you can save $50 on a Performance Pack or $75 on the Peak Sleep Set. Shop here: https://lagoonsleep.com/believe

205 | Dom Scott, Adidas Athlete
From South Africa to Arkansas to Colorado, Dom Scott has literally chased her running dream the whole way around the world. From going to boarding school as a teen to training with Emma Bates on Team Boss to finishing with a 2:27 at last month's Chicago Marathon, she's had quite the journey. We talk about all of that and more in this conversation.
Follow Dom on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/domscottrunsa/

204 | Asics Novablast 4, Robbe's Big Secret, NYC Here We Come
Carmen Sandiego taught us nothing about geography and it shows (sorry, Europe). But it's the calm before the storm as we embrace the empire state of mind in our lead-up to this weekend's New York City Marathon. We also go deeper personally than we ever have, thanks to Robbe's mid-podcast confessional. Of course, we also talk about the Asics Novablast 4, one of the most-anticipated running shoes of 2023.

203 | Cameron Hanes, Speedland Athlete & Bowhunter
From hunting in the backcountry to running ultras, Cam Hanes knows the importance of endurance when it comes to challenging endeavors. He's the author of several books, frequent guest on the Joe Rogan Experience, host of the Keep Hammering Collective podcast, and now– a Speedland athlete In this espisode, we talk about the mindset it takes to dig deep (and our mutual admiration for Sally McRae and Courtney Dauwalter), whether greatness is innate or learned, and his all-new Speedland trail shoe model– the GS:PGH.
Check out the all-new GS:PGH from Speedland: https://www.runspeedland.com/
Follow Cam Hanes on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cameronrhanes/
Check out Cam's website & Keep Hammering Collective podcast: https://cameronhanes.com/

202 | Best Super Trainers, Dead Robots on Doorsteps, Shel Silverstein, BS High
In Baltimore, snitches get stitches and/or dead robots on their doorsteps. Robbe comes home to find a frightful surprise, Meg & Thomas review BS High, and we also go where the sidewalk ends. Plus, we talk about our favorite super trainers of 2023. SAVE THE DATE: Our New Balance x BITR NYC Marathon shake out run is on Saturday, November 4, starting and ending at LAVAN Midtown (641 W 42nd St). Starts at 10 a.m., givewaways include custom hats and sling bags to the first few hundred people. Don't forget to check out this week's sponsors! Kodiak Peak Oatmeal is legit awesome, we've been using it to refuel after our morning runs. Made with 100% whole grain oats and 20g of protein per packet. Save 20% of your Peak Oatmeal bundle by shopping here: https://kodiakcakes.com/BIR Lagoon Pillows is how we get our good sleep. Right now you can save $50 on a Performance Pack or $75 on the Peak Sleep Set. Shop here: https://lagoonsleep.com/believe

201 | Emily Oster, Economist and Author
As runners, we obviously love data. But what about as parents? Emily Oster is a parent, professor, New York Times bestselling author, runner, and data-driven economist focused on helping other parents navigate life. And she's a fan of The Drop! We had a lot of fun talking to her about her approach to data-driven parenting, running, and life. Follow Emily on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/profemilyoster/ Listen to ParentData with Emily Oster: https://pod.link/1633515294 Check out Emily's books: https://emilyoster.net/writing/

200 | Baltimore Running Festival Recap, Rainy Day Adidas Evo 1, Bathroom Break-Ins, Girl With the Green Ribbon
If you ever marry someone who always wears a green ribbon on their neck– DON'T ASK THEM TO REMOVE IT. Aside from that advice, we recap the Baltimore Running Festival and Thomas's experience running in the Adios Evo 1 on a rainy day and Robbe's experience in the Nike Vaporfly 3. We're also in love with e-bikes now and we don't know how to make it stop (the love, not the bike).
By the way, SAVE THE DATE: We'll be doing a New Balance x BITR NYC Marathon shakeout run on Saturday, November 4, starting and ending at LAVAN Midtown (641 W 42nd St). Starts at 10 a.m., givewaways include custom hats and sling bags to the first few hundred people.
RSVP HERE: https://mailchi.mp/believeintherun/nyc-shakeout
Easy 3-mile route with special guests Kofuzi, Matt Choi, Charlie Watson (aka @therunnerbeans), Tommie Runz & the PR Project, Carleth Keys, Alex Hermanson (@herm.runs) and more!
Get Meg's Kodiak Oatmeal Cookies Recipe: https://believeintherun.com/kodiak-peak-oatmeal-cookie-recipe-simple-snack-for-runners/
Don't forget to check out this week's sponsors!
Kodiak Peak Oatmeal is legit awesome, we've been using it to refuel after our morning runs. Made with 100% whole grain oats and 20g of protein per packet. Save 20% of your Peak Oatmeal bundle by shopping here: https://kodiakcakes.com/BIR
Lagoon Pillows is how we get our good sleep. Right now you can save $50 on a Performance Pack or $75 on the Peak Sleep Set. Shop here: https://lagoonsleep.com/believe

199 | We Asked Emma Bates to Drink Post-Chicago Marathon Martinis in Our Hotel and She Said 'Yes'
Emma Bates ran the Chicago Marathon, and Meg ran the Chicago Marathon, so that seemed like a pretty good reason to have martinis in our hotel room together while recapping the race. Obviously, it was a pretty good time. There's a lot of talk about goats, like, the actual animal. And alpacas. It's basically an advertisement for FarmersOnly.

198 | Chicago Marathon Recap
This is it, the recap you've all been waiting for (or not). We went to Chicago, we ate some pizza, ate some ramen, drank some dranks, got up early, stayed up late, hung with friends (like you and Emma Bates), and somewhere in between, Meg ran a marathon. And she got a PR. We also held the world record-breaking Nike Alphafly 3 and give you our thoughts about that. Buckle up, it's a wild ride! Don't forget to eat your oatmeal! Kodiak Peak Oatmeal is legit awesome, we've been using it to refuel after our morning runs. Made with 100% whole grain oats and 20g of protein per packet. Save 20% of your Peak Oatmeal bundle by shopping here: https://kodiakcakes.com/BIR You can drop the CBD gummies, because Lagoon Pillows is how to get your best sleep. Right now you can save $50 on a Performance Pack or $75 on the Peak Sleep Set. Shop here: https://lagoonsleep.com/believe

197 | Erika Kemp, Brooks Athlete
Is Erika Kemp the future face of distance running in America? After posting the fastest American debut ever in the marathon at Boston earlier this year (and becoming the fastest American-born Black marathoner ever in the process), she may be on her way. We talk to the Brooks athlete on her success and the future of her running career.

196 | Nike Vomero 17, Flame Broiled, Chicago Lead-Up, Gettin' With Ghosts
It's spooky season around here, which means we're getting creepy with weird ghost talk. But we also manage to talk about Meg's lead-up to the Chicago Marathon and her inexperience with the value menu at Burger King. Then there's the whole discussion about inflation affecting tips for strippers, because that's the perfect lead-in to the $160 Nike Vomero 17, which is about the going price for a premium daily trainer these days.
Kodiak Peak Oatmeal is legit awesome, we've been using it to refuel after our morning runs. Made with 100% whole grain oats and 20g of protein per packet. Save 20% of your Peak Oatmeal bundle by shopping here: https://kodiakcakes.com/BIR
Lagoon Pillows is how we get our good sleep. Right now you can save $50 on a Performance Pack or $75 on the Peak Sleep Set. Shop here: https://lagoonsleep.com/believe

195 | Brian Beckstead, Altra Co-Founder
At a time when every shoe was over 10 mm in drop, Brian Beckstead and Golden Harper came along and took an idea from zero to, well... zero drop. Since then, Altra has become a staple brand in the running, walking, and hiking scenes, known for its footshape shoes and focus on a natural running lifestyle. However, everything has changed with the all-new 4 mm drop AltraFWD Experience. Does it matter? We ask Brian about that, the history and future of the brand, and what it's like to fly fish in South America. Check out Altra: https://www.altrarunning.com/ Read the review of the AltraFWD Experience ➡ https://believeintherun.com/shoe-reviews/altrafwd-experience-review/

194 | AltraFWD Experience, Berlin Breakdown, Post-Run Freak Faces
First things first, let's talk about Kipchoge's dual snot rivers that rivaled the outflow of the Tigris and Euphrates. Then we'll talk about his win in Berlin and Assefa's dismantling of the women's world record. From there, we get into how horrible our faces look after a run, whether or not we're just perpetually injured but used to it, and wonder if Baltimore rats are getting into Meg's collagen stash. Lastly, we touch on the AltraFWD Experience, a 4 mm drop shoe that's... a shoe. If this episode doesn't help you nail your peak long run for this fall marathon cycle, then you may as well just quit running.

193 | Emily Heller, Shoe Reviewer
We love having friends on the podcast, especially if they're fellow shoe nerds like us. Emily is one of the few/only women shoe reviewers on YouTube, and also has the most creative channel name (@runlikeheller). Oh, and she's also on the #traintonyc team, so we're lucky we get to hang out with her a few times on our journey to running the New York City Marathon with New Balance.
We talk about how she got into running and reviewing, what life is like on Long Island, and which shoes she's loving right now.
Check out Run Like Heller on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@RunLikeHeller
Follow Emily on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/runlikeheller

192 | Atreyu Race Model, The $500 Adidas Evo 1, Meg's Mild Injury, Canadian Booze
Sorry to those who aren't baseball fans, but the Orioles made the playoffs, so we take some time to acknowledge the only real birds that exist in the world. Then we get into the usual randomness and try and figure out if Thomas got placebo drunk at a Guns 'n' Roses concert in 1992. Also, Meg has a minor setback three weeks out from Chicago. In shoe talk, we discuss the $500 Adidas Adizero Adios Pro Evo 1 and, on the opposite side of the spectrum, the $120 carbon-plated Atreyu Race Model.
Get our thoughts on the Adidas Evo 1: https://believeintherun.com/adidas-adizero-adios-pro-evo-1/
Read our review of the Atreyu Race Model: https://believeintherun.com/shoe-reviews/atreyu-race-model-review/

191 | Josh Kerr, Brooks Beast Elite
He won the 5th Avenue Mile two weeks after he took down Jakob Ingebrigtsen on the sport's biggest stage, outkicking him en route to a world title in the 1500m. And now he's a guest on the greatest podcast in history of the universe. So yeah, you could say it's been a whirlwind of a month for Brooks elite Josh Kerr. We had a lot of fun talking to him about running, winning, and eating to much fast food in America. Follow Josh on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/joshhkerr

190 | New Balance 1080v13, 5th Avenue Mile Recap, & Mike the Headless Chicken
The gang took the actual train to NYC to run the New Balance and New York Road Runners 5th Avenue Mile. We talk about the worst seat on a train, Thomas's race day regrets, and Robbe making questionable decisions about stuff found on the ground (again). We also cover the legendary life of Mike the Headless Chicken, which is marginally more entertaining than our conversation about the New Balance 1080v13, which features some major upgrades.

189 | Adam Talan (aka The Dirty Boy), Creator & Ultrarunner
From shooting Satisfy and Norda to growing up in SoCal, Thomas talks with Adam Talan (aka The Dirty Boy) about all things art and creativity. Follow The Dirty Boy on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thedirtyboy/

188 | Salomon S/Lab Phantasm 2, Meg's 100-Mile Week, Behind The Scenes of Shoe Reviewing
It's not an illusion: Salomon has a legit race day shoe in the S/Lab Phantasm 2. But before we talk about that, we must discuss Meg's 100-mile training week, the merits of banana splits, and the reality of reviewing shoes and how brands perceive us. The Salomon S/Lab Phantasm 2 releases on October 1 for $275.
Get all the details and RSVP for 5th Avenue Mile shakeout run in New York City on Saturday, September 9: https://mailchi.mp/believeintherun.com/5thaveshakeout
This episode is sponsored by Electrolit, a scientifically formulated hydration beverage that replenishes the body during physical activity, intense heat, and other outdoor warm-weather activities. It's legit, we drink it, you should check them out.
Learn more:
Website: https://www.instagram.com/electrolit/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/electrolit/
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/electrolitusa

187 | Robbie Paterson | Sr. Manager Footwear Development, Adidas Adizero Elite Racing
What's going on behind the scenes of the Adidas Adizero podium push over the last few years? That's what we ask Robbie Paterson, Senior Manager of Footwear Development in the Adizero Elite Racing line. We get all the details on how they almost had a 50 mm race shoe until World Athletics laid down the law, how much testing and development goes into an Adizero shoe, and everything that went into the Adidas Adizero Prime X 2 Strung.

186 | Adidas Prime X 2 Strung, Stop Signs, Stressies, Icy Pop Juice, Magnet Fishing
We get to talking about the Adidas Prime X Strung 2 (eventually), but first, there's bigger fish to fry, like calling out runners running stop signs (even though we do it all the time), Thomas's flirtation with a stress fracture, high fructose frozen popsicle fun, and whether or not metal detecting is cool or ever has been. Real important stuff for runners. Get all the details and RSVP for 5th Avenue Mile shakeout run in New York City on Saturday, September 9: https://mailchi.mp/believeintherun.com/5thaveshakeout This episode is sponsored by Electrolit, a scientifically formulated hydration beverage that replenishes the body during physical activity, intense heat, and other outdoor warm-weather activities. It's legit, we drink it, you should check them out. Learn more: Website: https://www.instagram.com/electrolit/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/electrolit/ Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/electrolitusa

185 | Chris Chavez, Citius Mag
If you follow track, the man needs no introduction. Chris Chavez is the founder of Citius Mag, a media brand dedicated to all things track and field. We talk about his role at Citius, the world of track and field, and what's it's like behind the scenes of running.
Follow Citius Mag on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/citiusmag/
Follow Chris on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chris_j_chavez/

184 | Puma Magnify Nitro 2, Falmouth Recap, Meg Does The Kofuzi Truly Challenge, Free Dunkin' Sandwiches
We did the Cape Cod kwassa kwassa, running the Falmouth Road Race with Asics this past weekend. We recap all that, including Meg's completion of the Kofuzi Truly Challenge (and her amazing performance on race day). Robbe also scavenges someone's breakfast in the airport and you get to find out if we're gonna be cremated when we die, because why not. Oh, and we talk about the Puma Magnify Nitro 2, a max cushion trainer that we've been enjoying this week.
This episode is sponsored by Electrolit, a scientifically formulated hydration beverage that replenishes the body during physical activity, intense heat, and other outdoor warm-weather activities. It's legit, we drink it, you should check them out.
Learn more:
Website: https://electrolit.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/electrolit/
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/electrolitusa

183 | Morgan Wade, Country Music Artist
We wish we knew her in our wilder days, but we know her now. Morgan Wade is a country music artist who also happens to love weightlifting, running, and ultrarunning. We talk about what it's like to be the Travis Barker lookalike of country music (she has a solid collection of tattoos), a woman in the industry, growing up in a small town, running trails, and more. This was a really fun conversation about running and life.
Download or stream her newest album "Psychopath," on August 25.
Listen to her debut album "Reckless," featuring her hit song "Wilder Days," wherever you get your music.
Follow Morgan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/morganwademusic/

182 | Brooks Ghost Max, Plane Etiquette, The Baltimore Clap, Rich Waterbeds
Blink and it's 182. I guess this is growing up, but we're still kids at heart when it comes to discussing airplane etiquette, STD billboards in Baltimore, waterbeds for the rich and poor, and the all-new Brooks Ghost Max. This episode is sponsored by Electrolit, a scientifically formulated hydration beverage that replenishes the body during physical activity, intense heat, and other outdoor warm-weather activities. It's legit, we drink it, you should check them out. Learn more: Website: https://electrolit.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/electrolit/ Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/electrolitusa

181 | Greg Itahara, Visual Storyteller
Shoes and running apparel are cool, but they're a lot cooler when Greg Itahara gets his hands on them. Greg is a visual storyteller, an artist who has excelled at creating beautiful and unique designs that oftentimes find themselves on one-off shoes, including the hand-painted Asics Gel-Kayano 30 that he presented to Kayano-San himself at our office here in Baltimore. We were honored to have him in our studio to talk about art, storytelling, creativity, and more. Follow Greg on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/itahara_art/

180 | Nike InfinityRN 4, Magician Dating Services, Megs's Get Out of Jail Free Coin
Things go sideways real quick this week as we try to test the limits of our listeners' attention spans. Thomas and Robbe discuss toothpaste squeezing methods, Thomas gets Robbe to try a drunken cookie recipe, Meg is handed a get out of jail free coin, and we also respond to the torrent of comments on our Dr. Phil Maffetone episode. One more stop on our Summer Hydration Tour! 8/19 - Boston - Summer Hydration Tour Stop #7 RSVP here: https://believeintherun.com/event/summer-hydration-tour-stop-7-boston/

179 | Dr. Phil Maffetone, Founder of the MAF Method for Heart Rate Training
We probably should have had him on a long time ago, but better late than never. Dr. Phil Maffetone is a coach, author, innovator, and founder of the 180 Formula and the MAF test for heart rate training. He's basically the godfather of the field, which has seen a huge surge in followers over the last decade. He's also been an advisor to music legends like Rick Rubin, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Johnny Cash, and James Taylor.
In this episode, we talk about heart rate training and its benefits, as well as his new research into music and its affect on the mind and training. This is a long one, but it was a lot of fun and super interesting!
Learn more about Dr. Maffetone's work: https://philmaffetone.com/

178 | Puma x Ciele, Catchin' Crabs, Music City Mayhem, Zombie Bites
Meg forgets what week/month it is, Thomas may turn any day now (we're keeping him in a cage to be safe), Robbe catches crabs in a good way. We also recap Summer GRIT and Meg's time in Nashville, and take a quick look at the all-new collab between Puma and Ciele.
RSVP for our upcoming events!
8/10 - Atlanta - Summer Hydration Tour Stop #6
RSVP here: https://believeintherun.com/event/summer-hydration-tour-stop-6-atlanta/
8/19 - Boston - Summer Hydration Tour Stop #7
RSVP here: https://believeintherun.com/event/summer-hydration-tour-stop-7-boston/

177 | Brett Fraser, Enhanced Games, Chief Athletes Officer
Look, we had to know what they were all about, so we went straight to the source. Brett Fraser is the Chief Athletes Officer for the Enhanced Games, a sporting event without drug testing, billed as "an alternative to the corrupt Olympic Games."
This is an open conversation about the persistence of drugs in sport, the idea of "scientifically-enhanced" athletes, and whether or not that's a good thing or a bad thing for sport overall. There are definitely two sides to this issue and both have certain merits, whether you agree or not. Either way, we're interested to see how it plays out over the next year and a half.
Learn more about the Enhanced Games: https://enhanced.org/

176 | Summer GRIT Party Recap, When Animals Attack, Why Did School Supplies in the '80s Taste So Good?
This week, Thomas and Meg survive an animal attack (barely), Robbe narrowly avoids an animal attack, oh and also we had an amazing time at the Summer GRIT Party and Asics/Skratch Summer Hydration Tour stop #4. All that and a whole lot more in this episode, including an overview of the Salomon DRX Bliss.
Learn more and register for the Under Armour Sunset Tour: https://bit.ly/UA-SUNSET-TOUR
RSVP for our upcoming events!
7/29 - Nashville - Summer Hydration Tour Stop #5
RSVP here: https://believeintherun.com/event/summer-hydration-tour-stop-5-nashville/
8/10 - Atlanta - Summer Hydration Tour Stop #6
RSVP here: https://believeintherun.com/event/summer-hydration-tour-stop-6-atlanta/
8/19 - Boston - Summer Hydration Tour Stop #7
RSVP here: https://believeintherun.com/event/summer-hydration-tour-stop-7-boston/

175 | Tom Evans, Adidas Terrex, Winner of Western States 2023
We didn't know this before we started, but apparently we just talked to the only person to podium at Marathon de Sables, UTMB, and Western States, where he just won a few weeks ago with the 4th-fastest time ever. And to think that it all started with a bet.
Tom Evans is an Adidas Terrex athlete and no doubt, one of the best ultrarunners in the world right now, throwing down incredible performances on some of the toughest courses in the game. We talk about how he got into running, why he drinks Red Bull before, during, and after his races, and how he's loving the new carbon-plated trail racing shoe coming from Adidas.
Follow Tom on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tomevansultra/
Shop Adidas Terrex: https://bit.ly/SHOP-ADIDAS-TERREX

174 | Nike Ultrafly, Meg Goes Full Rock Star on Tour, Lyme Margaritas
Meg's really living up to the tour vibes as we find out when she recaps this weekend's Summer Hydration Tour visits in Austin and Miami. Robbe finds out what happens one week after you have a tick in your arm. Thomas has his own medical anomalies. And we talk about the Nike Ultrafly, which is probably one of the best Nike road shoes... but maybe not at $250.
Learn more about the Under Armour Sunset Tour: https://believeintherun.com/under-armour-sunset-tour/
Donate to Pat Blair's charity, Adventures For The Cure: https://adventuresforthecure.com/campaigns#2023-07%20AFC%20Summer%20Running%20Challenge

173 | Ben Andrews, Author and Motivational Speaker
As a runner growing up in Portland, Ore., Ben Andrews was set to live the ultimate dream when he landed a spot on the University of Oregon track and field team. And then it all fell apart.
Andrews is a motivational speaker, realtor, and author of "The Long Run," a book about overcoming adversity and seeing your dreams through until the end. We talk about his life, his book, what running has meant to him, and how to get the most out of all of it.
Learn more about Ben and pick up The Long Run: https://www.benandrews.com/the-long-run.html

BONUS: Live with Norda at Renegade Running in Oakland
On this special bonus episode of The Drop, Thomas and Robbe team up for a live audience podcast with Norda founders Nick and Willa Martire. Live from Renegade Running in Oakland, California. We talk about what it takes to start a shoe company (a lot), how their shoe is different from other models in the trail space, and how they navigated through certain obstacles on the way to where they are now. We also take some audience questions, which was a lot of fun.
The Norda 002 is a lightweight performance trail shoe featuring a ripstop-style Dyneema upper, Vibram midsole and Vibram Litebase with Megagrip outsole. Available now.
Shop Norda 002: https://nordarun.com/
Shop Renegade Running: https://renegade-running.com/

172 | Norda 002, Diamonds Aren't Forever, Cockroach Cuddles, Oakland Athletics
Thomas and Robbe recap last weekend's trip to Oakland with Renegade Running and Norda, giving you all the behind-the-scenes commentary on 48 hours of life in the bay city. From pest control to redwood trees to sketchy bus rides up a mountain, it was an action-packed weekend. We also recap week 2 of Summer GRIT, and cover what we liked and didn't like about the Norda 002.
Learn more and register for the Under Armour Sunset Tour: https://bit.ly/UA-SUNSET-TOUR
RSVP for our upcoming events!
7/8 - Oakland - Norda 002 Launch w/ Renegade Running (& Live Podcast)
RSVP here: https://believeintherun.com/event/norda-launch/
7/14 - Austin - Summer Hydration Tour Stop #1
RSVP here: https://believeintherun.com/event/summer-hydration-tour-stop-1/
7/17 - Miami - Summer Hydration Tour Stop #2
RSVP here: https://believeintherun.com/event/summer-hydration-tour-stop-2-miami/

171 | Alison Staples, Coach, SCI Physical Therapist Assistant, & Leader of R.I.O.T. Squad Run Club
Alison took the unconventional route to running, having started at the age of 30. She has completed 7 full marathons, and a handful of half marathons, 10ks, and 5ks. Her love for the sport has quickly transcended into wanting to give others the same sense of accomplishment she felt after completing her first race. She is the leader of R.I.OT. Squad run club, and an SCI Physical Therapist Assistant, as well as a run coach.
Follow Alison on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/alioop_0_o_runs/

170 | Saucony Kinvara Pro, Shootin' The Shirt, Cold Hard Cash, Tick Tock
Everyone's back in house and we're ready to recap some wild times, including Meg's trip to the New Balance Research Lab, Thomas going full Punisher on some shirts (they're sold out, btw), Robbe handling snakes and finding a visitor on his arm mid podcast. We also talk about the Saucony Kinvara Pro, one of the more confusing shoes we've run in recently. RSVP for our upcoming events! 7/14 - Austin - Summer Hydration Tour Stop #1 // RSVP here
7/17 - Miami - Summer Hydration Tour Stop #2 // RSVP here
7/20 - Summer GRIT Party/Summer Hydration Tour Stop #3 (open to all) - Ciele hats to first 150 RSVPs, free beer, Asics try-ons, and much more // RSVP here
7/22 - Oklahoma City - Summer Hydration Tour Stop #4 // RSVP here
7/29 - Nashville - Summer Hydration Tour Stop #5 // RSVP here
8/10 - Atlanta - Summer Hydration Tour Stop #6 // RSVP here
8/19 - Boston - Summer Hydration Tour Stop #7 // RSVP here

169 | Makenna Myler, Asics Pro Runner
It's hard enough to run a 5:25 mile, but what about doing it nine months pregnant? Makenna Myler is a professional runner for Asics who qualified for the Olympic Trials in the 10k in 2021 and finished 14th less than a year after giving birth to her daughter. She's been running PRs ever since and in this episode we talk about what that looks like.
Follow Makenna on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/benzmakenz/

168 | On Cloudboom Echo 3, Meg Hits a Sufferfest at the BAA 10K, Joe Dirt & Fireworks
Meg's in Boston at the New Balance Research Lab with the Train to NYC team, but no worries, the podcast must go on. Thomas and Robbe manage to not burn headquarters down, though next week may be a different story when we go full Joe Dirt on our stash of 4th of July fireworks. Also, we talk about the On Cloudboom Echo 3, a $290 race day shoe that may or may not live up to the price tag. Also– Summer GRIT starts on Saturday! Kind of crept up on us, so not sure we even mentioned it, but we're ready to roll. RSVP for our upcoming events! 7/8 - Oakland - Norda 002 Launch w/ Renegade Running (& Live Podcast) RSVP here: https://believeintherun.com/event/norda-launch/ 7/14 - Austin - Summer Hydration Tour Stop #1 RSVP here: https://believeintherun.com/event/summer-hydration-tour-stop-1/ 7/17 - Miami - Summer Hydration Tour Stop #2 RSVP here: https://believeintherun.com/event/summer-hydration-tour-stop-2-miami/

167 | Tom Hovey, Illustrator for The Great British Baking Show
Listen up all you fans of GBBS- when you see those beautiful and intricate illustrations of the food they're about to make and bake on the show, Tom Hovey is the one behind it. He's also a dedicated runner and all-around great guy. This was a fun conversation and pairs perfectly with a buttercream cake frosting. Fire up the oven and listen in.
Tom's art: https://www.instagram.com/tomhoveyart/
Tom's running: https://www.instagram.com/tomhovey_runs/

166 | Skechers Max Road 6, Thomas Stars in Face/Off 2, Florida Fun, & More
Robbe's on vacation in Florida but we still make it work. We talk all things running, including the harsh realities of nature, fishing, facelifts, and we even manage to work in some thoughts on the Skechers Max Road 6.
RSVP for our upcoming events!
6/27 - Boston - Believe in the Run x New Balance SC Trainer v2 Group Run
RSVP here: https://believeintherun.com/event/believe-in-the-run-x-new-balance-sc-trainer-v2-group-run/
7/8 - Oakland - Norda 002 Launch w/ Renegade Running (& Live Podcast)
RSVP here: https://believeintherun.com/event/norda-launch/
7/14 - Austin - Summer Hydration Tour Stop #1
RSVP here: https://believeintherun.com/event/summer-hydration-tour-stop-1/
7/17 - Miami - Summer Hydration Tour Stop #2
RSVP here: https://believeintherun.com/event/summer-hydration-tour-stop-2-miami/

165 | Lo Johnson, Pro Football Player & Runner
Delano Johnson is unique in the world of runners in that he's a 6'5", 250-pound Canadian football defensive end (currently a free agent). A current Baltimore-area resident, Lo played college football at Bowie State University and has played professionally for the Houston Texans, Toronto Argonauts, Portland Thunder/Steel and Hamilton Tiger-Cats. He's also a member of our Train to NYC 2 team with New Balance and we couldn't be more excited to have him along on this journey. Follow Lo on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/so_thankful10

164 | Adidas Boston 12, Meg Figures Out Horse Betting, Shaggy & Scoobs, E-rat-ication, & More
After a tame time in Boulder, we're back in the wild, folks. That means we talk about everything from Meg's new gambling addiction (jk... maybe) to rat trapping in Baltimore to why it's absolutely criminal that Matthew Lillard wasn't nominated for an Oscar for his flawless portrayal of Shaggy in Scooby Doo 2: Monsters Unleashed. Think about it though: he really was robbed. Oh, we also talk about the Adidas Boston 12 and why it's finally come around to the greatness it once was.