
Bodywhys Podcast
By Bodywhys - The Eating Disorders Association of Ireland

Bodywhys PodcastJun 09, 2023

Episode 20: Neurodivergence and Eating Disorders
In this episode, Barry Murphy, our Research and Policy 0fficer, speaks with Anna Rose of Eating Disorders Neurodiversity Australia about the connection between eating disorders & neurodivergence. Notes:
Eating Disorders Neurodiversity Australia (edneuroaus.com)
Eating Disorders and Neurodivergence (nedc.com.au)

Episode 19: Occupational therapy and eating disorders
In this episode, Barry Murphy, our Research and Policy 0fficer, speaks with Marissa R. Carney, Rebekah Mack ( Johns Hopkins Hospital) & Caroline E. Stanton (Prisma Health Kidnetics) about occupational therapy & eating disorders.
Notes:
The importance of including occupational therapists as part of the multidisciplinary team in the management of eating disorders: a narrative review incorporating lived experience https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9996838/
Episode 18: Role of lived experience in interventions and practice
In this episode, Barry Murphy, our Research and Policy 0fficer, speaks with Dr Una Foye (King's College London) & Hannah Lewis (Queen Mary University of London) about how lived experience of eating disorders can inform research & practice.
Notes
From prevention to peer support: a systematic review exploring the involvement of lived-experience in eating disorder interventions: https://www.emerald.com/insight/content/doi/10.1108/MHRJ-04-2021-0033/full/html CHIME https://www.therecoveryplace.co.uk/chime-framework/

Episode 23: The New Maudsley Carer Skills Podcast, with Harriet Parsons and Jenny Langley. Physically well but not yet recovered.
In this episode Jenny and Harriet discuss two common and difficult situations. Firstly, when a person is physically well and eating regularly but not yet recovered, and when a person has reached a safe level of nutrition and health but is unwilling to keep going.
You can find Jenny's website here: https://newmaudsleycarers-kent.co.uk
Bodywhys website: www.bodywhys.ie

Episode 17: Psychological recovery from RED-S
In this episode, Barry, our research and policy officer speaks with Dr. Rachel Langbein about psychological recovery from relative energy deficiency in sport (RED-S).
Notes:
Rachel’s website
https://theramblesofrachel.wordpress.com/
“It's hard to find balance when you're broken”: Exploring female endurance athletes’ psychological experience of recovery from relative energy deficiency in sport (RED-S)
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2211266921000402
“I’d got self-destruction down to a fine art”: a qualitative exploration of relative energy deficiency in sport (RED-S) in endurance athletes https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/02640414.2021.1883312
The IOC consensus statement: beyond the Female Athlete Triad—Relative Energy Deficiency in Sport (RED-S)
https://bjsm.bmj.com/content/48/7/491?hootPostID=0116e43013bf35a19d2c4f30c76050b1
Mental health in elite athletes: International Olympic Committee consensus statement (2019) https://bjsm.bmj.com/content/53/11/667

Episode 22: The New Maudsley Carer Skills Podcast, with Harriet Parsons and Jenny Langley. Managing Food and Eating - Part 3.
In this episode, Harriet and Jenny continue to talk about module 10, feeding and eating. The episode focuses on thinking about communicating and coaching for rigid rules and compensatory behaviours including overeating and purging. As Jenny writes, ‘The brain’s natural appetite system can be overridden by a combination of emotional problems, unusual eating habits and fluctuating blood sugar levels. Roadblocks to recovery from an ED can present themselves in many forms. Two of the most difficult are: Rigid rules around eating and Compensatory behaviours.'
You can find Jenny's website here: https://newmaudsleycarers-kent.co.uk
Bodywhys website: www.bodywhys.ie

Episode 16: Eating disorders in the emergency department
In this episode, Barry speaks to Dr Anisa Jafar, University of Manchester, and Dr Aileen McCabe, Tallaght University Hospital about eating disorders in the emergency department.
Notes:
Recognising and managing eating disorders in the emergency department
Assessment of Patients with Eating Disorders in the Emergency Department – Irish Medical Journal

Episode 21: The New Maudsley Carer Skills Podcast, with Harriet Parsons and Jenny Langley. Managing Food and Eating - Part 2.
In this episode, Jenny and Harriet talk about an important part of recovery from an eating disorder - food and eating. They look at the non-negotiable eating boundary, and at how carers can think about how to manage and support their loved one to start eating more normally. This episode and the following couple of episodes will look at this difficult topic.
You can find Jenny's website here: https://newmaudsleycarers-kent.co.uk
Bodywhys website: www.bodywhys.ie

Episode 15: A care pathway for longstanding eating disorders
In this episode, Barry Murphy, our Research and Policy Officer, speaks to Dr Megan Reay, Clinical Psychologist at Oxford Health NHS Foundation Trust, about the current research related to patients with longstanding eating disorders.
Study mentioned:
Creating a care pathway for patients with longstanding, complex eating disorders
https://jeatdisord.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s40337-022-00648-0

Episode 20: The New Maudsley Carer Skills Podcast, with Harriet Parsons and Jenny Langley. Managing Food and Eating - Part 1.
In this episode, Jenny and Harriet talk about an important part of recovery from an eating disorder - food and eating. They look at the non-negotiable eating boundary, and at how carers can think about how to manage and support their loved one to start eating more normally. This episode and the following couple of episodes will look at this difficult topic.
You can find Jenny's website here: https://newmaudsleycarers-kent.co.uk
Bodywhys website: www.bodywhys.ie

Episode 14: It's not all about control
In this episode, Barry, our Research and Policy Officer, speaks to Dr Dawn Branley-Bell, Northumbria University, about challenging mainstream framing of eating disorders.
Research mentioned:
It’s not all about control: challenging mainstream framing of eating disorders: https://jeatdisord.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s40337-023-00752-9
Remote Healthcare for Eating Disorders throughout COVID-19: https://research.northumbria.ac.uk/rhedc/

Episode 19: The New Maudsley Carer Skills Podcast, with Harriet Parsons and Jenny Langley. Reclaiming core family values.
In this episode Jenny and Harriet talk about ways that families can think about reclaiming core family values. This involves identifying what your family values are, how to have conversations about them and then how to implement changes in your household to reclaim family life from the eating disorder.
You can find Jenny's website here: https://newmaudsleycarers-kent.co.uk
Bodywhys website: www.bodywhys.ie

Episode 13: Learning about gender salience in recovery
In this episode, Barry, our Research and Policy Officer, speaks to Dr Connor Strobel, Harper-Schmidt Fellow, University of Chicago, about their research into gender salience in eating disorder recovery.
Research mentioned:
The Shadow that Hovered Over: Gender Salience in Eating Disorder Recovery. https://doi.org/10.1007/s12147-022-09294-x

Episode 12: Learnings from men who share their experiences on YouTube.
In this episode, Barry, our Research and Policy Officer, speaks to Dr Ekaterina Malova, Department of Communication Studies, University of Miami about their research into men’s eating disorders experiences as shared on YouTube.
Research mentioned:
Men have eating disorders too: an analysis of online narratives posted by men with eating disorders on YouTube
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/10640266.2021.1930338

#EDAW2023: The New Maudsley Carer Skills Podcast, with Harriet Parsons and Jenny Langley. Exploring Dad's experiences.
In this episode, Jenny and Harriet talk to Chris, a dad who has experience using the New Maudsley Skills when caring for his adult daughter with an eating disorder. We learn how Chris found the New Maudsley carer groups, and how the skills he learned and support he received have helped him, and his daughter through her anorexia and to a better place.
You can find Jenny's website here: https://newmaudsleycarers-kent.co.uk
Bodywhys animation: Kate's Dad - A father's perspective: https://youtu.be/XyXtSFRUzR0

Episode 18: The New Maudsley Carer Skills Podcast, with Harriet Parsons and Jenny Langley. Going to the GP
In this episode, Jenny and Harriet talk through how to make the most of a GP visit, how to plan what to say, what will be important information to give, and how to manage both the appointment and what happens afterwards. They also discuss making the most of the appointment if you are an adult with an eating disorder.
Resources mentioned:
MEED guidelines: https://www.rcpsych.ac.uk/docs/default-source/improving-care/better-mh-policy/college-reports/college-report-cr233---annexe-1.pdf?sfvrsn=1ba7e785_10 FREED resources: https://freedfromed.co.uk/resources-for-patients-carersYou can find Jenny's website here: https://newmaudsleycarers-kent.co.uk
Bodywhys website: www.bodywhys.ie

Episode 11: Learning about emotion difficulties in eating disorders
In this episode, Barry, our Research and Policy Officer, speaks to Dr Laura Renshaw-Vuillier, Bournemouth University about emotion difficulties and eating disorders.
Resources and studies mentioned:
Vuillier, L., Joseph, J., Greville-Harris, M. et al. (2022) What about males? Exploring sex differences in the relationship between emotion difficulties and eating disorders. Journal of Eat Disorders, 10, 193. https://doi.org/10.1186/s40337-022-00715-6
PEACE - Pathway for Eating disorders and Autism developed from Clinical Experience: https://www.peacepathway.org/

Episode 17: The New Maudsley Carer Skills Podcast, with Harriet Parsons and Jenny Langley. An emergency visit to A&E.
In this episode, Harriet and Jenny think through the difficult situation when a carer needs to take a person with an eating disorder to A&E in an emergency. Listen to Jenny and Harriet talk through ways of managing this situation, and ways that the New Maudsley Carer Skills can make this situation easier to manage.
You can find Jenny's website here: https://newmaudsleycarers-kent.co.uk

Episode 16: The New Maudsley Carer Skills Podcast, with Harriet Parsons and Jenny Langley. Collaborating with Care teams
In this episode, Harriet and Jenny focus on communicating and collaborating with care teams. For the most part, people with eating disorders are treated by a team. Regardless of the circumstances, communication, and collaboration between team members, which includes family / carers, is vital for progress to be made. Frequently difficulties and differences arise and in this episode, we think through ways of getting through these difficulties, to make the process better for everyone.
You can find Jenny's website here: https://newmaudsleycarers-kent.co.uk

Episode 10: Learning about eating disorders and Christmas
In this episode, we hear from members of our Media Panel about their experience of living with an eating disorder over the Christmas season and New Year. We would like to thank Mirin, Mary, Lauren, Emmy and Michelle for taking the time to share their stories and contribute to this podcast.
For more about our support services, see here: https://www.bodywhys.ie/recovery-support-treatment/support-services-2/
To find out more about our Media Panel, see here: https://www.bodywhys.ie/media-research/media-panel/

Christmas Special: The New Maudsley Carer Skills Podcast, with Harriet Parsons and Jenny Langley. Coping at Christmas.
In this episode Jenny and Harriet talk about ways of managing Christmas when a person in the house has an eating disorder. They discuss how to use the New Maudsley Skills to make the occasion and the days afterwards easier for everyone.
You can find Jenny's website here: https://newmaudsleycarers-kent.co.uk

Episode 15: The New Maudsley Carer Skills Podcast, with Harriet Parsons and Jenny Langley. The nutritional risk ruler and the concept of reasonable risk.
In this episode, Harriet and Jenny focus on the nutritional risk ruler and the concept of reasonable risk. The nutritional risk ruler is similar to the readiness ruler, and is a useful tool carers can use to open up conversations about change / moving forward in terms of the Edi taking more responsibility for their own nutritional health.
You can find Jenny's website here: https://newmaudsleycarers-kent.co.uk

Episode 9 - Learning about the experiences of boys and men #IMD22
TW: This episode discusses specific numbers and weights.
In this episode, Barry, our Research and Policy Officer, speaks to Jenny Langley, Keith Russell and Dr Jason Nagata about men’s experiences of eating disorders.
Jenny's website: https://newmaudsleycarers-kent.co.uk/
Keith's podcast 'The Endless Spiral': https://theendlessspiral.com/
Dr. Jason Nagata (Assistant Professor of Pediatrics & Adolescent Medicine, UC San Francisco): https://profiles.ucsf.edu/jason.nagata
Resources and studies mentioned:
Medical Management of Restrictive Eating Disorders in Adolescents and Young Adults
https://www.jahonline.org/article/S1054-139X(22)00577-8/fulltext
Sex differences and associations between zinc deficiency and anemia among hospitalized adolescents and young adults with eating disorders https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40519-022-01396-5
Relative energy deficiency in sport (RED-S)
https://www.sportireland.ie/institute/performance-service/nutrition/red-s

Episode 14: The New Maudsley Carer Skills Podcast, with Harriet Parsons and Jenny Langley. Planning for change, SMART goals and the anxiety hierarchy.
In this episode, Harriet and Jenny focus on the final component of the planning for change module: SMART goals and the anxiety hierarchy.
You can find Jenny's website here: https://newmaudsleycarers-kent.co.uk

Episode 13: The New Maudsley Carer Skills Podcast, with Harriet Parsons and Jenny Langley. DARN-C and Solution Focused Questions.
In this episode, Harriet and Jenny continue with an exploration of thinking about change, and motivating carers and people with an ED to change. Today’s episode will focus on the DARN-C skill and Solution Focused Questioning. Another skill to have in your tool box when you are thinking about change or helping your loved one to think about change.
You can find Jenny's website here: https://newmaudsleycarers-kent.co.uk

Episode 12: The New Maudsley Carer Skills Podcast, with Harriet Parsons and Jenny Langley. A Five Step Approach to Change for people with an eating disorder.
Content warning: This episode discusses self-harm. Please know, Pieta provides support to people who are in suicidal distress and those who engage in self-harm. Pieta Free 24/7 Crisis helpline: 1800 247 247 (For more see: https://www.pieta.ie/)
In this episode, Harriet and Jenny talk through planning for change, using the New Maudsley Model's 5 Step Approach to change. This episode focuses on how carers can work with the person with an eating disorder to introduce, plan, implement and review behaviour change experiments. As with the last episode, a key message is to take the path of least resistance. Our confidence builds as we experiment and experience change, and this approach helps us all to do that.
You can find Jenny's website here: https://newmaudsleycarers-kent.co.uk

Episode 8 - Learning about Other Specified Feeding and Eating Disorders (OSFED)
In this episode, Barry speaks to Samantha Whithnell of the Psychobiology of Eating and Related Disorders (PEAR) lab to talk about her research into Other Specified Feeding or Eating Disorders (OSFED).
The study mentioned 'How Different Are Threshold and Other Specified Feeding and Eating Disorders? Comparing Severity and Treatment Outcome' can be accessed here: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8898928/
Other resources:
NEDC Management of eating disorders for people with higher weight: clinical practice guideline: https://nedc.com.au/eating-disorder-resources/clinical-practice-guideline/
If you have any questions, you can reach Barry on: research@bodywhys.ie

Episode 11: The New Maudsley Carer Skills Podcast, with Harriet Parsons and Jenny Langley. A Five Step Approach to Change for Carers.
In this episode Harriet and Jenny talk through planning for change, using the New Maudsley Model's 5 Step Approach to change. This episode focuses on how carers can first practice this approach themselves, and in the following podcast episode, we will learn how to work with a person with an eating disorder, to plan and implement change. A key message is to take the path of least resistance. Our confidence builds as we experiment and experience change, and this approach helps us all to do that.

Episode 10: The New Maudsley Carer Skills Podcast, with Harriet Parsons and Jenny Langley. The Accommodation and Enabling Scale for Eating Disorders.
In this episode, Harriet and Jenny talk about The Accommodation and Enabling Scale for Eating Disorders. As Jenny writes in the manual, “ It is common for the eating disorder to cause carers to do things we refer to a enabling and accommodating to the Edi. This scale is used at the Maudsley to help carers to reflect on whether and how they accommodate and enable the eating disorder by submitting to the eating disorder voice.”
You can find Jenny's website here: https://newmaudsleycarers-kent.co.uk

Episode 9: The New Maudsley Carer Skills Podcast, with Harriet Parsons and Jenny Langley. The Reassurance Trap
In this episode, Harriet and Jenny talk about The Reassurance Trap, a trap that we all fall into, and need to think about. As Jenny writes, “Carers often get caught up in the reassurance trap and can see no way out. A vicious cycle ensues in which Edi asks for more and more reassurance and there is no obvious learning to change happening. This is exhausting and quickly becomes counterproductive.” This episode helps us to think through both why carers get caught in this trap and how they can start to avoid it.

Episode 8: The New Maudsley Carer Skills Podcast, with Harriet Parsons and Jenny Langley. Building and improving emotional intelligence: Five Key Principles: DEARS
In this episode, Harriet and Jenny talk about building and improving emotional intelligence using five key principles (DEARS). An important part of the New Maudsley Model is working with carers to develop their emotional intelligence and in turn role modelling this for their loved one with an eating disorder. There are many important skills that the workshops focus on to do this and one is DEARS - five key principles for helping to develop emotional intelligence. The five key principles are; Develop Discrepancy, Express Empathy, Amplify Ambivalence, Roll with Resistance, Support Self-Efficacy. This episode explains these principles and illustrates these advanced communication skills.
You can find Jenny's website here: https://newmaudsleycarers-kent.co.uk

Episode 7: The New Maudsley Carer Skills Podcast, with Harriet Parsons and Jenny Langley. The Decisional Balance.
In this episode, Harriet and Jenny talk about the Decisional balance. Following the previous episode on the stages of change model, the decisional balance is a tool “to help carers to empathise with the conflicts/internal dialogue Edi is facing as they progress through the stages of change.
You can find Jenny's website here: https://newmaudsleycarers-kent.co.uk

Episode 6: The New Maudsley Carer Skills Podcast, with Harriet Parsons and Jenny Langley. The Stages of Change Model.
In this episode, Harriet and Jenny talk about the stages of change model that is used within the New Maudsley model.
We all know the idea that unless somebody wants to change, or is ready to change, trying to make them change is a frustrating and exhausting challenge. When carers understand the different stages of change, they can use their energy and love to support their loved one in a more helpful way. Jenny writes, “If carers rush in too early, before Edi is ready, this is likely to create too much tension and a breakdown in communication.”
This podcast episode helps carers to think about the stage their loved one is at, how they can support them at that stage and plant seeds of change.
You can find Jenny's website here: https://newmaudsleycarers-kent.co.uk

Episode 7 - Learning from the experiences and perspectives of siblings and partners
In this episode, Barry speaks to researchers Hannah Cribben and Rachel Batchelor of King's College London Eating Disorders Research Group about the experiences and perspectives of siblings and partners in caring for someone with an eating disorder.
The study mentioned 'The experiential perspectives of siblings and partners caring for a loved one with an eating disorder in the UK' can be accessed here: https://bit.ly/3poGv6g

Episode 6 - Sensory processing, eating behaviours and autism
In this episode, Barry speaks to Emy Nimbley, PhD student, University of Edinburgh, and Jennifer O'Connor, AsIAm, about sensory processing, eating behaviours and autism.
Study mentioned:
Sensory processing and eating behaviours in autism: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/erv.2920

Episode 5: The New Maudsley Carer Skills Podcast, with Harriet Parsons and Jenny Langley. Communication Skills - O.A.R.S
In this episode Harriet and Jenny talk about – probably the most important skill in the New Maudsley Carer Skills manual – the communication skills known as OARS. As Jenny writes in the manual, “OARS is one of the most important communication skills when using the MI (Motivational Interviewing) approach, it helps keep the conversation reflective and mindful. The aim is to be aware of everything we say and how we say it. The important thing is to keep practising it in everything we do.
You can find Jenny's website here: https://newmaudsleycarers-kent.co.uk

Episode 4: The New Maudsley Carer Skills Podcast, with Harriet Parsons and Jenny Langley. The Maudsley Animal Metaphors.
In this episode, Harriet and Jenny talk about the famous Maudsley ‘Animal Metaphors’, which help carers to think about how interpersonal relationships can impact the recovery process. As Jenny writes in the manual, “The New Maudsley Model uses animal metaphors as a light-hearted yet powerful way of illustrating how carers’ initial and instinctive reaction to the eating disorder are not always helpful and can lead carers to inadvertently accommodate to the illness'
You can find Jenny's website here: https://newmaudsleycarers-kent.co.uk

Episode 3: The New Maudsley Carer Skills Podcast, with Harriet Parsons and Jenny Langley. Introducing emotional intelligence.
In this episode, Harriet and Jenny talk about emotional intelligence, and the importance of carers reflecting on their own emotions using a technique called ALVS (Attend, Label, Validate, Soothe)
You can find Jenny's website here: https://newmaudsleycarers-kent.co.uk

Episode 2: The New Maudsley Carer Skills Podcast, with Harriet Parsons and Jenny Langley. The Readiness Ruler.
In this episode, Harriet and Jenny discuss the Readiness Ruler and how it helps carers to think about where they are at, and what they can do to create a seed of progress, both in relation to their own emotional resilience, and that of their loved one with an eating disorder.
You can find Jenny's website here: https://newmaudsleycarers-kent.co.uk

New Maudsley Carer Skills Podcast Episode 1: Bringing the New Maudsley Carer Skills to life - in bite size pieces.
This podcast series intends to bring the New Maudsley Carer Skills to life, in bite size pieces. In this episode, we learn more about the origin of the New Maudsley Carer Skills and get an insight into the red and blue balloon analogy.
You can find Jenny's website here: https://newmaudsleycarers-kent.co.uk .
For more information on the red and blue balloon exercise, see here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlEBXwOOZmQ&t=1s

Episode 5 - Mental Health & Eating Disorders at Third Level
Trigger warning:
This podcast discusses eating disorders. If you have been affected by anything you have heard, please know our support services are available to you. Our email support can be accessed at any time via: alex@bodywhys.ie, see more support services here.
In this podcast, we speak to Clare Austick, President of the Union of Students in Ireland about mental health and eating disorders at third level.
Studies mentioned:
My World Survey 2: http://www.myworldsurvey.ie/

Episode 4 - Eating Disorders and the Media
Trigger warning: This podcast discusses suicidal feelings. If you have been affected by anything you have heard, please contact Samaritans on 116 123 or visit their website on www.samaritans.org.
In this podcast, we speak to Irish journalists about their experience of covering sensitive topics such as eating disorders. Please find our media guidelines here: https://bit.ly/3O7MoQy

Episode 3 - Eating Disorders Awareness Week 2022
In this episode we hear from the Bodywhys team on a range of topics discussed during Eating Disorders Awareness Week 2022.
If you have been affected by anything you have listened to, please know our support services are available to you at any time.
Helpline: 01-2107906 Email support: alex@bodywhys.ie

Episode 2 - Coronavirus and Eating Disorders: Voices from around the world
In this episode, we speak with staff from eating disorders organisations around the world about their experiences of supporting people during Covid-19. Thank you to Sian, Nicola, Liz, Ranjani and Kaitlyn.
The Butterfly Foundation: https://butterfly.org.au/
Eating Disorders Association Northern Ireland (EDANI): https://www.eatingdisordersni.co.uk/
Sheena's Place: https://sheenasplace.org/
National Eating Disorders Association (NEDA): https://www.nationaleatingdisorders.org/
BEAT: https://www.beateatingdisorders.org.uk/

Episode 1 - Dr. Ciara Mahon on Body Image, Social Media and Self-Compassion
UCD's Youth Mental Health Lab https://www.ucd.ie/psychology/research/researchcentresandlaboratories/youthmentalhealthlaboratory/
Ciara's study: Processing Body Image on Social Media: Gender Differences in Adolescent Boys’ and Girls’ Agency and Active Coping https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2021.626763/full
A meta-analytic review of the relationship between social media use and body image disturbance
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0747563219302717
A systematic review on the effects of media disclaimers on young women’s body image and mood
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1740144519302220