
The Brenthurst Foundation Podcast
By The Brenthurst Foundation
The series features Marie-Noelle Nwokolo as the host.

The Brenthurst Foundation PodcastMay 10, 2023

Africa Through Their Eyes: A Chat with Madam President, Ellen Johnson Sirleaf
Speaking to Marie-Noelle, H.E. Ellen Johnson Sirleaf, the 2011 winner of the Nobel Peace Prize and former President of Liberia (2006 – 2018), reflects on the moment she was announced President, the task to rebuild Liberia, her drive to advance women in public leadership in Africa, and her most-prized lessons on leadership.
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Debt, Democracy and the Importance of Dialogue: A Chat with Olusegun Obasanjo
Our latest podcast with Olusegun Obasanjo is a deep dive into his time as the former President of Nigeria, highlighting how he supported the country’s transition to democracy.
This episode was recorded during a recent conversation with Dr Greg Mills of The Brenthurst Foundation and Amanda Dory of the Africa Center for Strategic Studies.
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Africa Through Their Eyes: A Chat with H.E. Hailemariam Dessalegn (Part 2)
Have you ever wondered what it’s like to be Prime Minister?Well, our latest miniseries ‘Africa Through Their Eyes’ enables you to do just that through important discussions with former heads of state from across Africa. This week, Marie-Noelle Nwokolo sits down with H.E Hailemariam Dessalegn, former Prime Minister of Ethiopia, to reflect on his time in office, the choices he made and what he wishes he knew then.
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Africa Through Their Eyes: A Chat with H.E. Hailemariam Dessalegn (PART 1)
Have you ever wondered what it’s like to be Prime Minister?
Well, our latest miniseries ‘Africa Through Their Eyes’ enables you to do just that through important discussions with former heads of state from across Africa. This week, Marie-Noelle Nwokolo sits down with H.E Hailemariam Dessalegn, former Prime Minister of Ethiopia, to reflect on his time in office, the choices he made and what he wishes he knew then.
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The Cream of the Crop: The Importance of Agriculture in Development with Isabelle Tsakok (Part 2)
What role does the AfCFTA play in agricultural development? What links growth, stability and equity to agriculture? Why don’t reforms always work?
Tune in to part two of Marie-Noelle’s conversation with Isabelle Tsakok to find out more!
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The Cream of the Crop: The Importance of Agriculture in Development with Isabelle Tsakok (Part 1)
Africa’s arable land has increase by 52% in 20 years, so why do a large portion of the continent’s population still live in poverty?
This week, Marie-Noelle and Isabelle Tsakok of the Policy Center for the New South dissect the importance of agricultural transformation to help development, uncovering the possible impacts of climate change and government involvement, or lack thereof, in the process.
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Africa Through Their Eyes: A Chat with H.E. Ernest Bai Koroma Part II
This week we continue the conversation with H.E. Ernest Bai Koroma as he gives us an insight into the many surprises he experienced during his time as Sierra Leone's President, trends relating to coups across the region and his hopes for Africa by 2050. If you’ll do anything today, it’s to listen to this chat brought to you in conversation with Marie-Noelle.
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Africa Through Their Eyes: A Chat with H.E Ernest Bai Koroma
From economics and ebola to coups and the challenges of leadership, this episode features Marie-Noelle in conversation with former President of Sierra Leone, H.E Ernest Bai Koroma.
It’s THE in-depth look at President Koroma’s impact on the history of Sierra Leone and his insights on what it takes to make the right choices and run a country.
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Do Africans Now Prefer More Military Rule? A Chat with Afrobarometer’s CEO, Joe Asunka
The demand for democracy is higher than the supply, according to recent Afrobarometer surveys; what does this means and might it have anything to do with the recent spate of coups in West Africa and the preference for outsiders?
In Marie-Noelle’s chat with Joe Asunka of Afrobarometer, the two discuss African attitudes towards military rule, the 91% approval of Assimi Goita, the military leader who took over Mali in a coup and generational preferences and differences around governance.
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The Role of SOEs in Development in South Africa: A Chat with Alan Hirsch
Many state-owned enterprises (SOEs) in South Africa are in trouble; some have been for a decade or more. What is happening, why are they still in use, and how can we rethink these delicate development tools? Learn more in this chat with Alan Hirsch.
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Tanzania’s Past, Present and Future: A Discussion with Zitto Kabwe
With 68% of the Tanzanian population born after 1999, the role of the country’s youth is vital. However, does Tanzania’s past play an important role in their future? This week, Marie-Noelle speaks to Zitto Kabwe, the leader of the Alliance for Change and Transparency in Tanzania, to understand his ideas on the role which Tanzania’s history plays in the country’s future.
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Better Choices and the Labour Market: A Chat with Haroon Bhorat
Over the last 20 years, just 180,000 manufacturing jobs were created in South Africa. Going forward, what can be done to ensure higher employment rates within the country? This week, Marie-Noelle speaks to Haroon Bhorat on the ‘Better Choices’ that need to be made.
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Eskom and the Great Power Puzzle with Ray Hartley
In 1998, South Africa’s energy supply was in the pink. A low-cost, coal-fired fleet was producing surplus energy at one of the lowest prices in the world. Yet, by 2021, South Africa was in the grip of regular ‘load shedding’. So, how was a functional and effective provider of electricity turned into a failing corporation threatening the take the economy down with it? Listen to Marie-Noelle’s enquiry into what happened and what is required to address South Africa’s power issues in this chat with Ray Hartley.
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Crime and the Justice System in South Africa: A Chat with Gareth Newham
In today’s episode, Marie-Noelle and Gareth Newham tackle the reason for the decline of South Africa’s crime and justice system. South Africa has persistently failed to adequately build the rule of law since the birth of democracy in 1994, and it shows.
Gareth brings us into his world and shares those better choices that will improve policing and reverse the decline in public safety that started in 2012.
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Service Delivery at Sub-National Level: A Chat with Andrew Murray
In our episode this week, Marie-Noelle speaks with Andrew Murray, one of the authors of The Brenthurst Foundation’s latest book titled ‘Better Choices: Ensuring South Africa’s Future’.
Here, they discuss all things related to service delivery within South Africa, particularly health and education services, exploring actions and ideas which actually make a difference.
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Accountability, and the Importance of Upholding Human Rights in Ukraine: A Chat with Oleksandra Matviichuk
Since the Russian invasion began on the 24th February 2022, amongst many other atrocities, Ukraine and its people have been the victims of countless war crimes. Human rights activists such as Oleksandra Matviichuk have been bravely documenting these atrocities and working to defend the human rights of individuals who have been victims of these crimes.
Listen this week as Marie-Noelle speaks to Oleksandra of the Kyiv-based Civic Organisation Centre for Civil Liberties on the importance of accountability and justice within the conflict with Russia.
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Social Insurance: Building Better Institutions: A Chat with Andrew Donaldson
In our episode this week, Marie-Noelle speaks with Andrew Donaldson, Senior Research Associate at the Southern Africa Labour and Development Research Unit at the University of Cape Town as well as one of the authors of The Brenthurst Foundation’s latest book titled ‘Better Choices: Ensuring South Africa’s Future’. Here, they discuss current social insurance institutions which exist within South Africa, as well as considering the ways in which these could be improved and developed.
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Understanding the Role of a Wartime Parliament: At Home with Solomiia Bobrovska and Hryhoriy Nemyria
Parliament is the cornerstone of any functioning democracy. A centre of legislation and debate, its role is clearly defined during times of peace. But what happens when you’re at war?
This week, Marie-Noelle shares two powerful interviews from her recent visit to Ukraine. Hryhoriy Nemyria, First Deputy Chairman of the Foreign Affairs Committee of the Parliament of Ukraine, talks about the changing nature of a parliament on a wartime footing, while politician, activist, parliamentarian, former acting Governor of Odesa and soldier Solomiia Bobrovska looks to the development of female politicians in the country.
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South Africa's Agriculture: Policy Reforms to Stimulate Growth and Employment
Marie-Noelle's guest this week is Wandile Sihlobo, academic, Chief Economist of the Agricultural Business Chamber of South Africa (Agbiz) and author of Finding Common Ground: Land, Equity, and Agriculture.
Agriculture has long been a sector seen as a developmental cornerstone, creating jobs and driving economic growth. But how successful has it been? Sihlobo, who along with co-author Gracelin Baskaran wrote Better Choices chapter 'South Africa's Agriculture', argues here that in order for the agricultural sector to thrive, it requires a stable, predictable and conducive policy environment.
This episode is the latest in our 'Better Choices' miniseries, which sees Marie-Noelle chat to some of the authors from The Brenthurst Foundation's latest book, Better Choices: Ensuring South Africa's Future. Get your copy here: https://www.exclusivebooks.co.za/product/9781770107533
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A Masterclass on Ukraine's Strategic Communication in War: A Chat with Alina Frolova
Today's episode is a masterclass on strategic communication in warfare with Ukraine's Deputy Chairman for the Centre for Defence Studies and ex-Deputy Minister of Defence, Alina Frolova. Join Marie-Noelle Nwokolo for a one-in-a-lifetime chat.
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The Financial Services Sector and its Support to the Economy: A Chat with Annabel Bishop
Join Marie-Noelle in a chat with Investec’s Chief Economist, Annabel Bishop, on the dual role of the financial sector in the economy and opportunities to unlock its potential.
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Informal Economy and Informal Employment in South Africa: A Chat with David Francis
In this episode, Marie-Noelle chats with David Francis about South Africa’s ‘challenge’ with the informal economy and the better choices needed to address the economy.
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Introducing Better Choices
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Understanding the Basics and Basis of Election Observer Missions: A Chat with Jeffrey Smith
On the show this week, Marie-Noelle Nwokolo and pro-democracy activist Jeffrey Smith interrogate the role and relevance of election observer missions in light of Kenya’s recent election. Listen in on a candid conversation complementing processes in the quest to build substantive democracies.
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On Leadership and Agency of Africa’s Youth: A Chat with Prince Nwadeyi
In this week’s episode, Marie-Noelle chats with Prince Nwadeyi, co-founder of iSpani, on what it means to have and exert agency and the work required for Africa’s youth in taking the reins of leadership.
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The Role and Relevance of Parliament Today: A Chat with Siviwe Gwarube
Voter apathy is a growing problem among South Africa’s youth. While the reasons behind this are often emotive, they are understandable.
To better grasp how and where people have agency, Marie-Noelle spoke to Siviwe Gwarube, the Deputy Chief Whip and National Spokesperson for the Democratic Alliance, to learn about her political journey and how parliament can become more relevant to the average voter.
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Somaliland: How to Get onto the Right Side of History
How does a small state that, according to the UN, doesn't officially exist, with a nonconvertible currency, no officially recognised borders or passports, and is found in one of the most volatile regions of Africa, become a peaceful, free, democratic society, without the help of foreign intervention or aid?
Listen to how, in spite of a lack of international recognition, Somaliland has become one of Africa's secret success stories, and why it should become a model for many others across the continent.
More information on the topic can be found here:
https://www.thebrenthurstfoundation.org/videos/somaliland-how-to-get-onto-the-right-side-of-history/
https://www.thebrenthurstfoundation.org/news/somaliland%E2%80%99s-election-boosted-its-theoretical-case-for-recognition/
https://www.thebrenthurstfoundation.org/books-publications/somaliland-new-ways-of-doing-things-in-a-tough-neighbourhood/
https://www.thebrenthurstfoundation.org/news/somaliland-the-power-of-democracy/

No One is Safe Until Everyone is Safe: Discussing Migrant Experiences in South Africa
The impact of COVID-19 in South Africa, by existing data, has been the most severe on the African continent. South Africa, which accounted for 38.1% of total COVID-19 infections in Africa as of March 2022, is home to approximately 2.9 to 4.2 million migrants, the highest in intra-Africa migration. However, most of the interventions instituted by government to mitigate the socio-economic impact of the COVID-19 pandemic excluded or were not accessible to non-nationals. This defeats the Sustainable Development Goal (SDG) mantra of “leaving no one behind” and the fact that “nobody is safe until everyone is safe”, as emphasised by the World Health Organisation (WHO). Besides the exclusion of non-nationals in pandemic related interventions, the socio-economic impact of the pandemic and difficulties in building back better has led to increasing social tensions over scarce resources, depleting opportunities and deteriorating living standards for many.
Read the full report on 'No One Is Safe Until Everyone Is Safe: A Study of Migrant Experiences With COVID-19 in South Africa' here
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Understanding the Crux of Africa-China Relations on Trade and Infrastructure: A Chat with Ovigwe Eguegu
In this chat, Marie-Noelle Nwokolo and Ovigwe Eguegu of Development Reimagined chat about the deepening China-Africa relations as it pertains to trade and infrastructure, how to think about points of collaboration with China , and what Africa’s leaders ought to do to create a more mutually-beneficial relationship.
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Technology and Domestic Resource Mobilisation: A Ghanaian Case Study
In today’s episode chat with Henry Telli and James Dzansi of the International Growth Centre (IGC) about how IT systems can be potentially transformative tools to increase local tax capacities. The speakers also generously engage on the topic of “Is decentralisation good for development? Listen in to find out the fascinating takes from James and Henry.
Read their paper on “The promise and pitfall of technology: Evidence from tax collection in Ghana” here!
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One Man’s Journey as a Diplomat: A Chat with Ambassador Kipyego Cheluget
In today’s episode, Marie-Noelle speaks with Ambassador Dr Kipyego Cheluget about his diplomatic career and the lessons that a regional economic community, COMESA, can teach us as we roll out the AfCFTA.
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When Tech Meets Agriculture: A Chat with Ikenna of Releaf
In this episode, Marie-Noelle Nwokolo chats with Ikenna Nzewi, co-founder and CEO of Releaf, an agriculture technology company that develops hardware and software solutions to drive the industrialisation of food processing in Africa, starting with oil palm in Nigeria. Key to their operations is to innovate ways to reduce costs, increase value, and improve farmer revenues by ensuring and broadening market access.
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Reimagining Development (with China) – a Chat with Hannah Ryder and Jade Scarfe
Is China’s presence in Africa a positive one? What more can Africa do to increase the benefits received from a China-Africa relationship? Has Africa’s relationship with China changed over time? This podcast answers all these questions, and many more, giving us a different viewpoint on the relationship which the Asian super-power has with the African Continent.
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Launch of the 'Prospects for a Post-Pandemic Economic Recovery in Africa' Report
How much economic damage was caused, and how will African economies recover? This is the question addressed in today’s episode from the launch of the 'Prospects for a Post-Pandemic Economic Recovery in Africa' report.
For the full report visit: https://bit.ly/3pPbbP0
For the full recording, including comments by Joseph Stiglitz, Njuguna Ndung’u and Sheila Jasanoff visit: https://bit.ly/362okNB

Keynote address from President Hakainde Hichilema || Expensive Poverty Book Launch
On 26 January 2022, President Hakainde Hichilema addressed a broad audience of policymakers, past presidents, ambassadors and curious minds at the launch of the Brenthurst Foundation’s latest book, Expensive Poverty. The book explores the trillion-dollar question of why aid has been so poorly used in Africa. President Hichilema shares his journey and experience and the imperative to get Africa on the right track for development.
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Addressing Africa’s youth (un)employment challenge: a chat with Mona Iddrisu
In this week’s episode, Marie-Noelle sits with Mona Iddrisu, Head of Youth #Employment and Skills at ACET. They discuss the demand and supply-side challenges of skilling and employing youth in Ghana and across the continent, and the kinds of policy changes required to address the challenge in the face of a burgeoning youth population.
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Monetising the Ocean as a Source of Finance: a Chat with Erik Wandrag
On the first episode of the year, Marie-Noelle speaks with Erik Wandrag, CEO of Oceans Finance Company, who’s main take is to develop financial solutions from resources like the ocean! It’s deep blue thinking from the deep blue ocean.

Why Alleviating Poverty is not the Same as Creating Prosperity: A Chat with Efosa Ojomo
Understanding why poor countries have remained poor despite the trillions of dollars spent on development over the past several decades requires asking different questions. Hear more in MN’s chat with Efosa Ojomo of Christensen Institute.
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Getting It Right With Tech In Africa: A Chat With Tim Harris
In today’s episode, Marie-Noelle sits with Tim Harris to discuss BPO, tech, service sectors and the opportunities for job creation. The gains however will not be automatic, they require market reforms and a scaling-up of resources to supply the skills these sectors are demanding.
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Are we really practising democracy?: A discussion with Rhoda Osei-Afful
According to Afrobaromter, Africans want more democracy than they are getting. Why is democracy so important? What does more democracy entail? How can we deepen the democratic project?
Find out more in this week’s chat between Marie-Noelle and Rhoda Osei-Afful, Senior Research Analyst at the Ghana Centre for Democratic Development.
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Career spotlight pt 2: What it's really like to be a finance minister with Malado Kaba
This week we bring you the second half of our conversation with Guinea's former finance minister, Malado Kaba, who sat down with Marie-Noelle to impart some of the wisdom she has gained over her years in office.
The pair covered an array of topics, from Covid-19, to gender parity across the continent, and even some advice for those coming up in the world of international development.
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Career spotlight pt 1: What it's really like to be a finance minister with Malado Kaba
Malado Kaba, first female Minister of Economy and Finance of Guinea, sits down with Marie-Noelle to discuss the difficult trade-offs in decision-making processes as a politician and shares lessons from her time in office, including how she went about increase in fiscal transparency, fighting corruption and promoting good governance.
Stick around and you will hear her insightful nuggets on financing Africa’s growth as well as the lesson for development practitioners today.
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The case for an active approach to foreign direct investment (FDI) in Africa
Ever wondered why Africa misses the mark attracting FDI?
Summits, targets, and envoys are a good start to attracting much needed FDI to Africa, but they will not be enough. We need a more active and targeted approach by governments that decide to get their acts together.
Join Marie-Noelle Nwokolo in this episode as she explores insights from Thomas Schaefer (Volkswagen and Skoda), Greg Mills and Daniel Ngwepe (formerly VISA, now Connect Frontier).
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Financing Africa’s growth – a chat with Dr Yakama Manty Jones
The Brenthurst Foundation presents an interview with Dr Yakama Manty Jones, Director of Research and Delivery Division at the Ministry of Finance in Sierra Leone. Yakama reflects on the financing options that are available and need to be harnessed by Africa’s leaders to sponsor its development. She also shares some insights on what makes Public Private Partnerships(PPPs) work in Africa.

Developing a new narrative for growth: A chat with President Hakainde Hichilema of Zambia
Over the past couple of years, Zambia has been in the news but not for flattering reasons: mounting debt and increasing mismanagement of the country's macroeconomic indicators. Today, the narrative has turned as many see a different future with newly-elected President Hakainde Hichilema. In this episode, he sits with The Brenthurst Foundation to discuss Zambia's current economic situation and his aspirations for making Zambia a better place to do business.
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On good leadership and deepening democracy in Africa: a chat with Riva Levinson
In today’s episode, Riva Levinson of KRL International joins Marie-Noelle in discussing good political leadership, what it takes to deepen democracy and accountability in Africa, and her journey supporting Ellen Johnson Sirleaf’s bid for Presidency.
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Youth Leadership in Africa: Why are Africa's leaders so old if it's populations are so young?
Young people across the world are well adept to 21st Century life and issues which come with it, making them well-equipped to take positions of power. However, when it comes to Africa, do the young of today lack the initiative to uptake these positions? Why are its populations so young yet its leaders so old?
This week, we re-visit a conversation Marie-Noelle had with youth leader Kaene Disepo, in which he tries to unpick these questions and understand the issue at hand.
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Resilience and Adaptation: How the SA Future Trust supported SMME's through the pandemic
The SA Future Trust was was established in March 2020 with a view to provide financial support to SMME's across the country. One and a half years on, how has it helped support the people of South Africa and what further impact can it have?
Marie-Noelle caught up with Ashleigh Fynn-Munda, Social Investment Associate at Oppenheimer Generations Philanthropy, to discuss the recent release of the SA Future Trust's SMME Report to look into these questions and understand more about how the Trust works.
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When the cameras stop rolling: A life in journalism with Daniel Makokera
What’s it like meeting those in power? How are they really when the camera’s are turned off? What does it taketo become a top African journalist?
This week, Marie-Noelle speaks to Daniel Makokera, a veteran newscaster who, for the last two decades, has travelled the continent asking questions to some of the most powerful leaders across Africa.
Daniel has learnt a lot during his career, about the continent, about leadership, about human nature. Here, he shares some of that, as well as his top tips for young journalists wanting to tell the African story.
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A Masterclass in designing a fit for purpose foreign policy for South Africa with Peter Fabricius
South Africa’s Department of International Relations and Cooperation (Dirco) recognises that it needs to focus more on economic diplomacy, including upskilling its diplomats to promote trade and investment.
But this work needs to go further if South Africa is to pursue a foreign policy fit for economic growth and prosperity. There is a broad consensus that it needs to better coordinate the different elements - including business - which have a role to play in economic diplomacy, broadly defined.
One way of doing this, according to Peter Fabricius, would be to merge Dirco and the Department of Trade, Industry and Competition into one department managing South Africa’s economic relations. That would be a big step towards a SA Inc. And it might free trade from the dubious grip of industrial policy makers.
Marie-Noelle caught up with the veteran journalist to find out more.
The idea for this conversation came from a discussion paper Peter wrote for the Foundation, which you can read here.
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Afghanistan After the West’s Withdrawal
Between 2001 and 2019, two million men and women from abroad served in Afghanistan, and more than $2 trillion was expended, an extraordinary, once-in-a-generation commitment of resources to a poor country, a staggering opportunity cost.
The Western withdrawal from Afghanistan, set to be complete by September 11 2021, has gone hand-in-hand with a narrative of defeat, repeated so often it’s in danger of becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy, one damaging to Western moral authority and the value of its alliance.
Dr Greg Mills is joined in conversation with Rory Stewart, Former Secretary of State for International Development of the United Kingdom and Yale University Fellow, and Dr David Kilcullen, author, strategist, and counterinsurgency expert, as they discuss what the future might hold for the people of Afghanistan.
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Averting South Africa's Political Crisis: Is UBI the answer?
The recent unrest that took hold across parts of South Africa, following the arrest of former president Jacob Zuma, put inequality back in the spotlight. While some put the blame squarely on the Zuma faction within the ruling ANC, it is clear that, out on the streets, there was a boiling resentment fed by the government's failure to deliver basic public services.
This week, Marie-Noelle sat down with the Foundation's Machel-Mandela fellow, Gugu Resha, to learn more about her experiences growing up in South Africa, and whether the debate surrounding universal basic income, which gained new traction following the chaos, has any merit.
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Improving Nigeria’s business environment: A chat with Dr Jumoke Oduwole
The Ease of Doing Business indicator is a system that ranks the regulatory environment of countries around the world. Over time, the ranking, collated by the World Bank, has amassed considerable influence over business regulation as countries have sought to improve their score to attract investment.
This week, Marie-Noelle spoke to Dr Jumoke Oduwole, who serves as Special Advisor to the President of Nigeria on the Ease of Doing Business, about how the business environment has improved there and what more needs to be done to attract further investment on the continent.
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On US-Africa relations: A conversation with Ambassador J. Peter Pham
The US foreign policy approach to Africa has remained remarkably consistent since the Clinton administration. As President Biden’s State Department begins to take shape, analysts have started to wonder which direction his government might take.
This week, Marie-Noelle spoke to Ambassador J. Peter Pham, a Distinguished Fellow at the Atlantic Council, who formerly served as US Special Envoy for the Sahel and Great Lakes region during the Trump administration, to hear more about the relationship, and what President Biden’s nominees might say about the current direction of travel.
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Diaspora engagement: Harnessing the developmental power of the international community
Diaspora communities play an integral role in the economic, cultural and developmental growth of their countries of origin.
However, research suggests that, too often, governments lack the expertise and capacity to effectively engage them.
This week, Marie-Noelle chats to Dr Martin Russell, an advisor at The Networking Institute, to learn a little more about where and when diaspora engagement has worked, and what it takes to harness the power of the international community.
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The case for industry without smokestacks: Leveraging BPO services to address unemployment in Africa
Industries without smokestacks – tradable services like tourism and transport – could hold the key to future meaningful employment for millions across Africa.
Following on from last week’s episode with Sharmi Surianarain, Marie-Noelle spoke to Antoinette Eckersley, Founder and Group CEO of KGI Holdings, whose focus on business process outsourcing is changing the way we think about what work could look like in South Africa.
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The future of work: A pathway to employment in Africa with Sharmi Surianarain
Automation. Artificial intelligence. Remote working. These are just some of the terms and phrases often deployed in conversations around the ‘fourth industrial revolution’ and the future of work.
Africa’s growing population will necessitate the creation of new jobs and industries to accommodate the millions more than will enter the job market over the next few decades. Covid-19 hasn’t changed that, it’s accelerated it.
This week, Harambee Youth Employment Accelerator’s Chief Impact Officer, Sharmi Surianarain, gives Marie-Noelle an insight into what the future of work on the continent might look like.
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Engaged capital: A path to strengthening Africa’s post-pandemic recovery
According to the IMF, Africa was home to the world's five fastest growing economies prior to the pandemic. Much has been written of the continent's looming population boom, and the levels of economic growth that will be required to sustain such change.
While COVID has changed a lot, the need for rapid economic growth remains. Only now it’s even greater.
But how can Africa sustain its post-pandemic recovery while still creating enough opportunity for its burgeoning population? The Brenthurst Foundation’s founder, Jonathan Oppenheimer, believes the answer lies in engaged capital.
Join Marie-Noelle in conversation with Jonathan, as together they explore the idea behind engaged capital, and why it could be Africa’s best shot in creating its new future.
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The rapid urbanisation of African cities: How to avoid a demographic crisis
Africa’s cities are growing. Fast. Some 500 million people live in one of the continent’s already burgeoning metropolises. Another 800 million are set to join them by 2050.
Unless action is taken, Africa will have to deal with a demographic crisis the scale of which has never been seen before. But how bad could it really get? And what does the right action look like?
This week Marie-Noelle was joined by Archimedes Muzenda, an author and former fellow at The Brenthurst Foundation who now works as a Senior Research Associate at the African Urban Institute, to find out more.
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The power of technology: Preparing today's youth for tomorrow's digital world
Technology - how can we leverage its power to improve lives and equip the youth of today with the right skills for a digital world of tomorrow?
The Brenthurst Foundation Podcast is back, and this week, Marie-Noelle was joined by Lily Edinam Botsyoe of Hacklab Foundation, to talk all things digital.
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We're taking a break this week
We’re taking a break from the podcast this week, but fear not, we’ve got a load of great new content lined up that will be coming out shortly.
Haven’t caught up on this series yet? You find all episodes, hosted by Marie-Noelle, on our website.
See you next week.

Lessons from COVID-19: Building a more resilient continent
Crisis planning is critical to the success of any government. But how can you plan for the unknown?
Fellow at The Brenthurst Foundation, Richard Morrow, spoke to Marie-Noelle about some of the lessons Africa must learn from COVID-19 to ensure it is better equipped for the next crisis, whatever that might be.
The idea for this week’s episode came from a discussion paper – ‘Africa after COVID-19: Lessons for a more resilient future’ – which Richard wrote last year. You can find the paper, along with a host of other great content, on our website.
Africa after COVID-19: Lessons for a more resilient future: https://bit.ly/2Qhqfpr
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Philanthropy and development: Funding Africa’s growth
Philanthropy has played a significant role in the lives of many through charitable donations, funding businesses and stop gap public good provisions. But can it be more?
This week, Marie-Noelle sat down with Bridget Fury, the head of Oppenheimer Generations Philanthropies, to talk about the future of philanthropy and its role in achieving development outcomes in Africa.
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Driving trade across Southern Africa: A route diagnostic from South Africa to Malawi, via Mozambique
The Brenthurst Foundation’s Director, Dr. Greg Mills, has been known to embark on some epic adventures in his time.
This week, he spoke to Marie-Noelle about his latest trip, from South Africa to Malawi, via Mozambique, by road.
Encountering endless checkpoints, low-level graft, and bone-shaking roads, Dr. Mills describes exactly what the region needs to supercharge its trade.
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On AfCFTA: How can Africa win this time around?
This week Marie-Noelle invites one of The Brenthurst Foundation’s newest members, Deputy Research Director Emmanuel Owusu-Sekyere, to offer his insight into why the nascent African Continental Free Trade Area could be the key to Africa’s long-term economic recovery from Covid-19, and what the continent needs to do to make it it’s “saving grace”.
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South Africa’s greatest economic adversary... itself: Finding common ground for growth with Ray Hartley
This week we're going in house, The Brenthurst Foundation Research Director Ray Hartley sits down with Marie-Noelle to discuss how South Africa witnessed ten years of change in three months, the pull of populism and an argument for tough choices when it comes to South Africa's economic viability.
The accompanying discussion paper can be found here.
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Picking your battles: The reality of managing COVID-19 in the face of insecurity - An interview with David Kilcullen
Increasing pressure is being put on African nations to get Covid-19 outbreaks under control, but how easy is it to prioritise Covid-19 when you're facing a whole host of other domestic issues such as Islamic extremism, water shortages and food insecurity.
The Brenthurst Foundation's Marie-Noelle Nwokolo talks to author, strategist, and counterinsurgency expert David Kilcullen about the realities facing Africa when it comes to balancing Covid-19 with longer standing domestic issues.
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The elephant in the room: Can AfCFTA work? An interview with TMEA CEO Frank Matsaert
The potential benefits of the AfCFTA are endless and many have called it a 'game changer', 'revolutionary and 'Africa's next biggest break'.
Join in on a conversation between The Brenthurst Foundation's Marie-Noelle Nwokolo and CEO of TradeMark East Africa, Frank Matsaert, on the lessons from years of regional trade facilitation procedures, the necessity of intra-continental trade, and what the priorities need to be for policy makers, private sector and civil society in the current rounds of trade negotiation and facilitation.
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Reflections on The Asian Aspiration - Agriculture & Green Revolution
Marie-Noelle Nwokolo presents the final episode of this mini-series on agriculture and green development.
Hear Prof David Henley, author Joe Studwell and South African politician Mmusi Maimane explore the role of agriculture in both the Asian and African development story, while Ethiopia’s former prime minister Hailemariam Desalegn discusses the possibility of ‘green’ development, and the work currently being undertaken in Ethiopia to strive towards it.
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Find the book The Asian Aspiration: Why and How Africa Should Emulate Asia here: https://www.thebrenthurstfoundation.org/books-publications/the-asian-aspiration/

Reflections on The Asian Aspiration - Accountability In Governance
While some African governments have sought to crush corruption, almost all have failed in preventing it from enveloping the continent. An accountability deficit has bred poor governance. But how do you tackle this?
This week the MDC’s Tendai Biti and Nelson Chamisa explain what has gone wrong in Zimbabwe, while Prof Kingsley Moghalu attempts to rationalise why African leaders seem to be full of great ideas yet lack the skill of implementation.
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Reflections on The Asian Aspiration - Culture: A Continental Mind Set?
Is there an Asian or an African mindset? Are there cultural variations that help explain the differing development trajectories of these continents?
With the help of Dr David Monyae, co-director of the Confucius Institute at the University of Johannesburg and Prof Edmund Tayao from the Ateneo de Manila University in the Philippines, this episode delves into the role of culture in Africa’s development journey.
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Find the book The Asian Aspiration: Why and How Africa Should Emulate Asia here: https://www.thebrenthurstfoundation.org/books-publications/the-asian-aspiration/

Reflections on The Asian Aspiration - Globalisation and Regional Development
How vital is policy continuation in promoting development? Are regional success stories important in showing the way for others? What can Asia’s development story teach Africa? These are just some of the questions we seek to answer this week with the help of Prof Tang Xiaoyang, deputy director at the Carnegie-Tsinghua Center for Global Policy; Shu Zhan, the former Chinese ambassador to Rwanda and Eritrea; Souleymane Coulibaly, lead economist for Brunei, Malaysia, the Philippines and Thailand at the World Bank; and Moeketsi Majoro, the prime minister of Lesotho.
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Get your hands on a copy of The Asian Aspiration: Why and How Africa should emulate Asia here: https://www.thebrenthurstfoundation.org/books-publications/the-asian-aspiration/

Reflections on The Asian Aspiration - Foreign Aid: Help or Hindrance?
Following on from The Asian Aspiration podcast launched earlier this year, The Brenthurst Foundation presents a new seven-part podcast series: Reflections on The Asian Aspiration.
Each week Marie-Noelle Nwokolo brings you insights from some of the greatest minds from Africa, Asia, North America, and Europe on a number of issues, from globalisation to green development, aid to accountability.
This week we discuss whether foreign aid is a help or hindrance with former President of Sierra Leone Ernest Bai Koroma and The Carter Centre's Former Vice President of Peace Programs Jordan Ryan.
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Bonus Episode: The Asian Aspiration Introductory Chapter
Thank you for listening in to the Introductory Chapter of the book, The Asian Aspiration: Why and How Africa Should Emulate Asia – and What It Should Avoid. For a copy of the book by Greg Mills, Olusegun Obasanjo, Hailemariam Desalegn, and Emily van der Merwe, visit www.panmacmillan.co.za, or visit your nearest major bookstore. Our e-book can also be found on:
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The ANC and Zimbabwe
What can be done to fix Zimbabwe and how should South Africa approach its wayward neighbour? Join host Greg Mills as he talks to Lindiwe Zulu, the head of the ANC study group on international relations and Tendai Biti, an opposition leader with the MDC.
For more information on the webinar and other Brenthurst Foundation activities head to: https://www.thebrenthurstfoundation.org.
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The Prospect of Building an Opposition Coalition in South Africa
Can South Africa's opposition find more in common than what separates them and join together to unseat the ruling ANC?
Listen to Herman Mashaba and John Steenhuisen discuss the future of coalitions and the challenges facing the opposition.
For more information on the webinar and other Brenthurst Foundation activities head to: https://www.thebrenthurstfoundation.org.
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The Lessons from Malawi's Election for Southern Africa's Opposition
What are the lessons for the opposition in other Southern African countries? Greg Mills talked to one of the region’s most courageous opposition leaders, Zambia’s Hakainde Hichilema, about what lessons he learned from the Malawian opposition victory.
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The Economic Costs of South Africa's Lockdown
Listen to Professor Haroon Bhorat, Tim Cohen, Greg Mills and Henning Suhr on the state of the economy after lockdown.
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Malawi's Moment of Truth: The Presidential Election Second Time Around
On 19 June 2020, Greg Mills hosted Lazarus Chakwera, leader of the Malawi Congress Party, Dr Boniface Dulani of the Institute of Public Research and Henning Suhr of the Konrad Adenauer Stiftung, to discuss the forthcoming election in Malawi.
For more information on the webinar and other Brenthurst Foundation activities head to: https://www.thebrenthurstfoundation.org.
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