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California PC 187: The Podcast

California PC 187: The Podcast

By Bret Cher Dwee

Bret, Cher and Dwee talk about murder, murder, murders that have occurred mostly in Los Angeles County California. We are an unpolished, crass trio who records out of our Jeep, Daniel. Cher uses potty mouth words, Bret tends to mumble and Dutch occasionally barks. We love True Crime stories, we do our research and we do this for fun and for free! Don’t let the sunshine fool you.


Dedicated to Uncle Robert Weldon, Vietnam Veteran and veteran of LAPD who worked as a Homicide Detective. R.I.P.
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California PC 187: The PodcastJun 13, 2019

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Mar 24, 202200:60
Larry and Roy: Two Men & A Creeper Van

Larry and Roy: Two Men & A Creeper Van

Lawrence Bittaker and Roy Norris, also known as “The Toolbox Killers,” terrorized and tortured teen girls from the South Bay in Los Angeles county for 5 months in 1979, forever changing people’s perception of the basic Van style vehicle.


1. Lawrence Bittaker and Roy Norris. Wikipedia.
2. People vs. Bittaker. Supreme Court of California,In Bank, The PEOPLE, Plaintiff and Respondent, v. Lawrence Sigmond BITTAKER, Defendant and Appellant, No. S004359, Decided: June 22, 1989. Find Law.
3. Death Sentence Upheld for Killer Who Showed ‘Astonishing Cruelty’. Hager, Philip. Los Angeles Times. 23 June 1989.
4. “LA's 'Most Heinous Murderer Ever' Dies In Prison.” City News Service. PATCH, Los Angeles, CA.
5. Roy Norris. Murderpedia.
6. “Why Some individuals kill for Their Own Sadistic Pleasure:Fulfilling a need for power, domination and control.” Bonn, Scott A., PhD. Psychology Today. 21 January 2017.
7. “Murder” Texas Radio Fish.
8. “My California.” Epic Sound
9. “How Wearing Glasses Impacts Your Success, According to ScienceFour eyes may be better than two.” Hinds, Rebecca.
10. “Serial Killer.” Urban Dictionary.
11. “Rapist.” bigflyingdistraction. The Urban Dictionary. 11 August 2010.
12. Lucinda Lynn Schaefer. The Charley Project.
13. Andrea Joy Hall. The Charley Project.
Mar 10, 202101:11:25
2 Old Broads and a Mercury Sable
Dec 19, 202058:37
The Skid Row Slasher

The Skid Row Slasher

This Episode was accidentally published way before completion!! Well, shoot. We are obsessed by stories of those rare beasts in life who prey on people they perceive to be less than zero, like, homeless people.

Épisode 16: Thé Skid Row Slasher. Crittenden, Jordan. Dark Dark World podcast. 10 October 2019.

People of the State of Illinois, Plaintiff-Appellee,v. Vaughn O. Greenwood, Defendant-Appellant. Gen. No. 53,355.
Illinois Appellate Court ​ First District, Fourth Division. September 24, 1969.

Vaughn Greenwood: American Serial Killer.

Épisode 31: Vaughn Greenwood The Skid Row Slasher. Crackhouse Chronicles. 4 March 2020.

Greenwood, Vaughn Orrin. CDCR Inmate Locator: Public Inmate Locator.
Aug 23, 202001:04:26
Four Women, Four Sins: Ad Laudenberg

Four Women, Four Sins: Ad Laudenberg

Through advancements in DNA technology and two tattle tales, the 27 year mysteries behind the mid 1970s murders of four women—3 from San Pedro and 1 from San Francisco—would finally get solved. It’s true what they say, every dog has his day. Sources :

The Santa Clause Strangler. Morrison, Keith. NBC News. 13 June 2008.

Fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution. Wikipedia.

Octogenarian convictied of woman’s Christmas Eve 1972 slaying.
North County Times Wire Services. The San Diego Union Tribute. 21 November 2006.

Lois Gwendeen « Bonnie » Rudisill Pétrie. Find A Grave.

Jaxon Van Derbeken (September 21, 2003). "How alleged serial killer fell into trap / Man's loose lips led to ruse to get DNA". San Francisco Chronicle.

Peter Y. Hong (November 21, 2006). "Man, 80, convicted in '72 murder". Los Angeles Times.

Whittling While He Works : Entrepreneurship: To passersby, that old branch might be trash, but in the hands of Ad Laudenberg it becomes an attractive walking stick that he’ll sell by the side of the road. Dillow, Gordon. Los Angeles Times. 7 October 1993.

Jul 26, 202047:44
The Carpoolin' Mr. Nice Guy, Bill E Suff

The Carpoolin' Mr. Nice Guy, Bill E Suff

The story of Riverside/Lake Elsinore Killer, William Lester Suff, born Bill E Suff, in Torrance, CA in 1950. What a creep.

"Murder" by Texas Radiofish
"My California," Epic Sound
Jul 17, 202050:35
The Rolling Hills Theater Murders
Jul 17, 202001:05:26
The 1996 Murder Torture of Anthony Guest
Jul 17, 202001:06:28
The Murder of San Pedro Lawyer Milo S. Smith, 1957

The Murder of San Pedro Lawyer Milo S. Smith, 1957

The 1957 Murder of a prominent lawyer in San Pedro, CA. SOURCES: Shanghai Red Cafe in San Pedro. Gnerre, Sam. 9 August 2012. FBI Nabs Suspect In Port Killing. Pittsfield Man Arrested In Calif. Robb-Murder. People v Turville. People v. Turville, 51 Cal.2d 620, 335 P.2d 678 (Cal. 1959) MacKerron, John A. “A Talisman against the Dark Forces.” The Journal of Criminal Law and Criminology (1973-), vol. 81, no. 1, 1990, pp. 171–189. JSTOR, Accessed 7 Apr. 2020. clemency. “Pittsfield Man Arrested In Calif. Robbery-Murder.” The Berkshire County Eagle. 31 August 1957. Milo Severn Smith. Charles Evan Turville. Michael Seal. Leave is a message at: or email us at, or
Jul 17, 202001:27:12
The Murder of Tatiana Tarasoff.

The Murder of Tatiana Tarasoff.

We are going up North this episode to tell the story of Tatiana Tarasoff and how her murder changed the rules of Confidentiality between Psychiatrists, Psychologists, Counselors and their Patients/Clients in California, as well as some other states. Dwee is here, but she is sleeping. Stalking Quiz.

Tarasoff v Regents of the University of California. Wikipedia.

“Just a Girl.” No Doubt. Song Facts.

“The Murder of This 20 year old Berkeley coed changed the laws around psychology forever”. Anaya, Tina Knotta. Timeline. 17 September 2017. “.

Murder" by Texas Radiofish,
"My California", Pastis, Epidemic Sound

Email us at: californiapc187@gmail, aol or Please visit our website at or visit our Patreon californiapc187!! Our Instagram is @Dweezemom21 and our twitter can be found through Our address is 1840 S Gaffey St, #324, San Pedro, CA 90731. It is a post office box as we are currently location independent, so we can’t host a meet and greet with ya there. Umm, #sorrynotsorry. Have a fucking fabulous day!! Love you, mean it n shit dot com. 🌼😍
Feb 26, 202001:07:44
Even Cindy Brady Knows That Tattle-Telling Ain’t Cool (REVISED)

Even Cindy Brady Knows That Tattle-Telling Ain’t Cool (REVISED)

Snitches. Sources The Use of Informants In California Criminal Cases. SHouselaw. “Informant says he was planted in Orange County jail to snitch.” CBS News. 21 May 3017. Alfonsi, Sharyn. “Is it Tattling or Telling?” Child Mind Institute. Howard, Jamie, PhD. “Snitch.” Merriam-Webster Dictionary. California Prosecutor’s Office Thought Serial Snitch Was a Liar, But Used Him Anyway.” Ferner, Matt. Huff post. 7 June 2017. Dry Snitch.” Urban Dictionary. “Blue Wall of Silence.” Wikipedia. “Stop Tattling.” Brady Bunch, CBS. Murder" by Texas Radiofish, "My California", Pastis, Epidemic Sound
Feb 09, 202001:01:23
Innocence Matters and So Does Rick Daly
Jan 23, 202001:15:22
Word From The Bird: Two True California PC 187 Stories From the 1950’s REVISED
Jan 19, 202001:02:27
Checking In to Say Hello

Checking In to Say Hello

Hi! Our next Episode will drop this Friday! It is going to be a good one!
Jan 11, 202002:01
Commercial For Upcoming Episodes of California PC 187: The Podcast
Dec 29, 201902:18
The Execution Style Murders of Alan and Retana Wellman, 1975
Dec 26, 201949:20
Alba Park: Alba Escuenza “Susanna” Aleman Flores
Dec 26, 201901:04:15
Creepy Santa: The Covina Massacre

Creepy Santa: The Covina Massacre

The story of Bruce Jefferey Pardo and how he ruined Christmas for the Ortega Family of Covina on December 24, 2008. Sources: “Covina Massacre.” Wikipedia. The Disturbing Case Of 'Santa Claus' Killer Who Massacred 9 People At Christmas Eve Party Before Burning Down Home One police officer called the crime scene "apocalyptic." BY ALY VANDER HAYDEN “SITE OF BRUCE PARDO'S CHRISTMAS EVE MASSACRE IN COVINA UP FOR SALE JUST IN TIME FOR HALLOWEEN.” Romero, Dennis. LA Weekly. October 7, 2010. “Santa shooter carried secret guilt, attorney says.” Wilson, Stan. CNN. “Bruce Jefferey Pardo.” Murderpedia. Update on Spencer Brasure, perpetrator from Episode 1: “Spencer Brasure, Killer In Infamous 90s Torture-Murder, Found Dead In San Quentin Cell.” 15 NOVEMBER 2019. SF News. Jay Barman. Links to Helpful Resources: Los Angeles Crime Stoppers. The National Domestic Violence Hotline. National Network to End Domestic Violence The Charley Project NamUs Homicide and Grief: Victim Connect The First 48: Resources
Dec 21, 201932:23
Murder in Shadow Park, Cerritos, 1992

Murder in Shadow Park, Cerritos, 1992

A woman and her live in maid were brutally murdered in an exclusive neighborhood in Cerritos, .CA called Shadow Park on April 30, 1992. Update: we are working on revising this episode as we know it could have been done much better.
Dec 18, 201901:04:24
Urban Legend: Vanderlip Murder in Palos Verdes Estates

Urban Legend: Vanderlip Murder in Palos Verdes Estates

Bret, Cher & Dwee discuss the stories of murder at the mansion of Palos Verdes Estates Founder, Frank A Vanderlip. Leaning more towards the idea that the stories are Urban Legand and not fact, Bret, Cher and Dwee take a trip to the Vanderlip Estates to do a little ghost hunting. Intro: "Murder." Texas Radiofish. Creative Commons. CCMixter.  "My California" by Pastis from royalty-free music resource, VANDERLIP STORY SOURCES:
Sep 28, 201901:04:42
Kristin and Neda, 1984
Sep 21, 201958:24
California PC 187: The Podcast Audio Ad

California PC 187: The Podcast Audio Ad

Our first attempt at making an ad for our podcast.
Aug 05, 201901:26
Who Doesn't Remember How To Spell Their Own Name?
Jul 28, 201901:00:29
What's Next

What's Next

What our next episode will be about.
Jun 16, 201902:45
The Pod After The Pod

The Pod After The Pod

We fill in a few gaps we left in The Shadow Park Murders, make corrections and/or apologies where due. We also answer our own questions from last show regarding how Time of Death is determined. Short, sweet, hopefully informative.
Jun 13, 201940:36
How to Become a Homicide Detective

How to Become a Homicide Detective

The last episode was harder on us mentally and emotionally than we ever anticipated. It totally fucked us up. Therefore, we have decided to make episode three somewhat educational and light hearted. We take a more in depth look at California Penal Code 187, as well as give an overview of the Law Enforcement Agencies that serve Los Angeles County. We end on a positive note with a brief biography of LAPD Homicide Detective honored with Badge Number 1, John Paul St. John, better known as "Jigsaw John." Thanks for listening!
Apr 30, 201947:50
The Pod Before the Pod
Dec 21, 201822:30