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Ms. Lyric's Poetry Outlaws

By catherine owen

Join poet Catherine Owen as she reads poems, talks about the poetry world and interviews poets.
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Episode 23: Chris Banks, a chat!

Ms. Lyric's Poetry OutlawsJun 08, 2022

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Episode 2: Improv Thoughts on Performance by Catherine Owen

Episode 2: Improv Thoughts on Performance by Catherine Owen

I chat randomly for ten minutes on why and how to perform as a poet and then recite Edna St Vincent Millay’s Time Does Not Bring Relief, 1931.
Jun 06, 202312:12
Season 8: Episode 1: Kevin Spenst- a mini interview on poetry and performance with poems!

Season 8: Episode 1: Kevin Spenst- a mini interview on poetry and performance with poems!

It’s a snippet today of one of my rare and relished 94th street Trobairitz series in which i do a three question live interview with Vancouver poet Kevin Spenst on how he started performing, what are some of his techniques and why is performance important for poetry. Then he recites with some preamble two pieces that have mélanges of lexicons and even backwards masking with culminating screams. And there are birds. Enjoy!
Jun 05, 202310:06
Episode 75: Entrances with James Pollock

Episode 75: Entrances with James Pollock

In which I conclude season 7 with a necessary rant about the system as spurred on by Chris Hutchinson and then introduce the fantab James with his chat on sound and his poem Dishwasher. Stay fierce!!
Apr 19, 202321:04
Episode 74: Homage to Gwendolyn MacEwen

Episode 74: Homage to Gwendolyn MacEwen

(1941-1987). Starting with a Wimen quote and talking about the internal and external lives of art plus the nature of being prolific and getting dated. Gwen’s life and two poems follow. Enjoy!
Apr 18, 202314:27
Episode 73: Entrances with Lisa Richter

Episode 73: Entrances with Lisa Richter

An engaging chat and a lovely poem but with a few tech glitches caused by an unstable internet link. Why I ask for files ;) I popped a bit of music in between to make it bearable. Enjoy!
Apr 17, 202324:16
Episode 72: Entrances with Catherine Greenwood

Episode 72: Entrances with Catherine Greenwood

I blather about writing couples and poets who relocate and then introduce Catherine Greenwood and she chats about process and reads a piece with geese and bagpipes and delicious sounds in it!
Apr 14, 202321:29
Episode 71: Percy Bysshe Shelley’s Ode to the West Wind (1819)

Episode 71: Percy Bysshe Shelley’s Ode to the West Wind (1819)

I recite these five short parts as an invocation to spring, including slightly hoarse voice here and there and, in the middle, cat.
Apr 13, 202304:48
Episode 70: Homage to Milton Acorn (1923-1986)

Episode 70: Homage to Milton Acorn (1923-1986)

Memories from Joe Rosenblatt, a bio from James Deahl, his 100th anniversary, I shout love. Enjoy!
Apr 12, 202312:06
Episode 69: Alvis’s Sayings from The Poetic Edda

Episode 69: Alvis’s Sayings from The Poetic Edda

As translated by Jeramy Dodds. I love the multiplicities of naming here. Chris’s 13th death day. Go well in the unknown realms my love.
Apr 11, 202306:39
Episode 68: Entrances with Nikki Reimer

Episode 68: Entrances with Nikki Reimer

There are cats and magpies and thanks. Nikki talks language and music and re-mixes Mary Oliver (whom I loathe but remain open minded about ;) Enjoy!
Apr 10, 202318:45
Episode 67: Entrances with Micheline Maylor

Episode 67: Entrances with Micheline Maylor

Wow. So this is a longish and most delightful lecture on the origins of poetry in one’s being by this lovely Calgarian and it’s preceded by me trying twice (phonecall interrupted!!) to do her bio and intro after reading a passage about religion and art from Christian Wimen! Enjoy :)
Apr 07, 202325:16
Episode 66: Eva H.D.’s Feidakis’ Birds

Episode 66: Eva H.D.’s Feidakis’ Birds

A five minute poem from her book Shiner (which is curiously not listed as one of her books in her latest collection The Natural Hustle!). I love the last lines I must say. Only one inversion occurred: when I say doing nothing, she wrote nothing doing. Thanks Eva.
Apr 06, 202305:31
Episode 65: Homage to Ralph Gustafson

Episode 65: Homage to Ralph Gustafson

In which I speak of supporting this podcast and other artistic endeavors via Patreon and otherwise (o and thanks to Susan McCaslin and Robert Priest too for their one-time $50 contributions!) and then chat about Ralph and his work and life including reactions to him from those such as Phyllis Webb ;) I read his poem Sessional Memoranda at the end and mispronounce IMPUDENT but o wel. Nothing is perfect but birds! Enjoy.
Apr 05, 202310:16
Episode 64: WH Auden’s At the Grave of Henry James

Episode 64: WH Auden’s At the Grave of Henry James

I almost get through this nearly 7 min poem without one stumble. It’s not easy. It’s a beautiful elegy.
Apr 04, 202307:50
Episode 63: Entrances with Adam Sol

Episode 63: Entrances with Adam Sol

I bemoan Monday and people who fear poetry and Adam talks about writing and reads a wonderful poem Inherit. Enjoy!
Apr 03, 202315:53
Episode 62: Entrances with Hollay Ghadery

Episode 62: Entrances with Hollay Ghadery

It’s afternoon! I saw the Northern Lights. Does poetry have an audience? Hollay ghadery talks of this and reads a poem on sobriety. Enjoy!
Mar 31, 202313:24
Episode 61: Entrances with Nyla Matuk

Episode 61: Entrances with Nyla Matuk

A short week for outlaws! I recommend Stephen Marche’s On Failure and then Nyla extemporizes and reads poems by two other poets. Enjoy!
Mar 27, 202317:37
Episode 60: Robert Hass and his State of the Planet

Episode 60: Robert Hass and his State of the Planet

Ten difficult stanzas of outrage and examination. From the Ecopoetry Anthology.
Mar 23, 202311:16
Episode 59: Entrances with Brian Bartlett

Episode 59: Entrances with Brian Bartlett

I chat about publisher tardiness in response and recall a quote from Les Murray and then introduce Brian (with apologies for not editing the end of the chat), followed by his ekphrastic talk and four short pieces from Shakespeare in Halifax. Enjoy!
Mar 22, 202320:15
Episode 58: Three poems for Aren by Catherine Owen

Episode 58: Three poems for Aren by Catherine Owen

Dec 13/84-Mar 13/23. Rest in power drummer and friend.
Mar 21, 202306:41
Episode 57: Entrances with Gary Barwin

Episode 57: Entrances with Gary Barwin

I talk about grief and David Bowie and multimedia art then intro the one of a kind Gary Barwin’s life and talk and poem. Enjoy!
Mar 20, 202314:15
Episode 56: Entrances with John Wall Barger

Episode 56: Entrances with John Wall Barger

In which I say you know too much and miss “miserably” from the WCW lines, and also I have two intros: one on a personal tragedy and the further decimations of newspeak, and the other on the Griffin and then a bio/intro for Barger. And then his talk and poem. Enjoy! (And also get fiercer!)
Mar 17, 202323:11
Episode 55: Sheryl St Germain’s Midnight Oil

Episode 55: Sheryl St Germain’s Midnight Oil

Beautiful devastating poem in a variety of stylistic parts from The Ecopoetry Anthology!
Mar 15, 202307:22
Episode 54: Openers with Marche, Wimen, Zucker and Auden

Episode 54: Openers with Marche, Wimen, Zucker and Auden

In which I ramble through texts, starting with a line from the Poetic Edda and delving through my headache into notions of wrongness with Stephen Marche’s On Writing and Failure, Christian Women’s Ambition and Survival and Rachel Sucker’s The Poetics of Wrongness , ending with a poem from 1937, Orpheus, by WH Auden (repeating the last line twice because I read it wrong ;) There you have it! Enjoy :)
Mar 14, 202314:54
Episode 53: Entrances with Kate Rogers

Episode 53: Entrances with Kate Rogers

I still have a cold ;) I read a poem against Daylight Savings, intro Kate and she chats about China and poetic influences and reads a poem against domestic abuse called Derrick’s Fist. Enjoy!
Mar 13, 202320:45
Episode 52: Entrances with Christine Lowther

Episode 52: Entrances with Christine Lowther

Some snow falls, a bit of a grrrr about blurbs and identity, intro to Chris and her compelling talk and beautiful poem, Privilege. Enjoy!
Mar 10, 202320:38
Episode 51: Pat Lowther (1935-1975) an homage.

Episode 51: Pat Lowther (1935-1975) an homage.

A difficult one to do but I want to honour her enduring poems!
Mar 09, 202311:50
Episode 50: Alice Fulton’s Cascade Experiment

Episode 50: Alice Fulton’s Cascade Experiment

I was sick yesterday so couldn’t record an episode and my voice is still somewhat rough but I had to recite a poem by a fierce female poet for Women’s Day. So much to say about being a woman and a poet. Suffice to say, it remains challenging and deserves to be fought for. Yar!
Mar 08, 202303:26
Episode 49: Entrances with David Martin

Episode 49: Entrances with David Martin

A short one about geology and poetry which I introduce by speaking of my parents and blues fest. Enjoy!
Mar 06, 202311:06
Episode 48: Entrances with Jim Nason

Episode 48: Entrances with Jim Nason

In which I chat about being home, mouse slaughter, Jeopardy questions and then intro my ill-fated reading with Jim Nason who has a wonderful chat and poem: This Tree is a Rabbit. Enjoy!
Mar 02, 202316:03
Episode 47: Galway Kinnell’s Flying Home

Episode 47: Galway Kinnell’s Flying Home

A sleepy read of this 1980 poem as I’m flying home today and also Kinnell’s is the book of poems I brought with me and he’s fond of long pieces. So here you go. Dedicated to Frank, twenty years gone today (1974-2003)
Mar 01, 202305:27
Episode 46: Prothelamion by Edmund Spenser (1596)

Episode 46: Prothelamion by Edmund Spenser (1596)

It’s old but still beautiful. Eliot borrowed the last line for his Wasteland. It’s snowing.
Feb 28, 202309:06
Episode 45: Entrances with Steve Noyes

Episode 45: Entrances with Steve Noyes

In which I read a birthday poem for Chris first (1981-2010) then intro how I met Steve and chat about his once-cat and sketch out his short talk and then he reads his longer poem Late Stages. Enjoy!
Feb 27, 202315:19
Episode 44: Ann Cuthbert Rae Knight (1816) and Part First of A Year in Canada

Episode 44: Ann Cuthbert Rae Knight (1816) and Part First of A Year in Canada

In 14 sections. It’s awful and beautiful. And hey it’s an early woman writer and Scottish immigrant writing her way into the new (to her) world.
Feb 23, 202307:59
Episode 43: Entrances with Alice Burdick

Episode 43: Entrances with Alice Burdick

In which I recollect a bathroom incident, talk laughter, introduce Alice’s marvellous chat and poem and tell you we love cats ;) this one is a good time!
Feb 22, 202320:16
Episode 42: Galway Kinnell’s For Robert Frost

Episode 42: Galway Kinnell’s For Robert Frost

A reading of this moving poem in five parts from Kinnell’s Selected Poems.
Feb 21, 202305:50
Episode 41: Entrances with Banoo Zan

Episode 41: Entrances with Banoo Zan

A grrrr against censorship of books, an intro and bio for Banoo Zan, her talk and poem Iran. Enjoy!
Feb 20, 202321:47
Episode 40: Entrances with Robert Priest

Episode 40: Entrances with Robert Priest

With a tiny grrrrr about wishing poetry editor positions were paid and then an intro to the delightful and meaningful chat and poem by Robert Priest from Toronto. Enjoy!
Feb 17, 202321:06
Episode 39: Dan Bellm’s Aspens

Episode 39: Dan Bellm’s Aspens

From the Ecopoetry anthology. A ten minute poem about everything.
Feb 16, 202309:53
Episode 38: Openers with Sven Birkerts and Charles Simic

Episode 38: Openers with Sven Birkerts and Charles Simic

In which I chat about routine and writing and Sven Birkerts The Electric Life from 89 then read a poem by Charles Simic “untitled (soap bubble set) 1936” from Dime Store Alchemy (92). Enjoy!
Feb 15, 202308:53
Episode 37: Barb Langhorst’s Climate Change

Episode 37: Barb Langhorst’s Climate Change

An intense poem about death and rejuvenation that has many shifting line breaks and lacunas. Both beautiful and challenging to recite! Forgive me Barb :) From her collection Restless White Fields (2012).
Feb 14, 202306:37
Episode 36: Entrances with Penn Kemp

Episode 36: Entrances with Penn Kemp

In which I chat about reverberations and performance series and then introduce Penn Kemp who speaks of her beginnings and recites a poem about Diane di Prima from P.S. Enjoy!
Feb 13, 202314:47
Episode 35: Cyrus Cassells and his Down from the Houses of Magic

Episode 35: Cyrus Cassells and his Down from the Houses of Magic

A ten part piece of trance ecology from the Ecopoetry Anthology. Enjoy!
Feb 10, 202307:39
Episode 34: Joe Blades, an homage

Episode 34: Joe Blades, an homage

With personal connections, an obit, rob mclennan’s commemoration excerpts and a River Suite poem. Thanks Joe.
Feb 09, 202313:03
Episode 33: Entrances with Bruce Kauffman

Episode 33: Entrances with Bruce Kauffman

An intro of two grrrrs and a shout out and even a weather report and then Bruce Kauffman: bio, chat and a Dr Zhivago poem. Enjoy!
Feb 08, 202321:39
Episode 32: Derek Walcott’s The Arkansas Testament

Episode 32: Derek Walcott’s The Arkansas Testament

A 24 part piece from his Selected Poems and the same-titled book from 1987. For Black History Month. Hard to read such a long poem so I did my best, especially amid a cat battle near the end! Enjoy :)
Feb 07, 202315:15
Episode 31: Entrances with Marguerite Pigeon

Episode 31: Entrances with Marguerite Pigeon

In which I recite a Francis Ponge piece on a match in French and then intro Marguerite and her talk and she chats about origins and forms and then reads a segment from The Endless Garment. Enjoy!
Feb 06, 202312:12
Episode 30: Larry Levis and Anastasia and Sandman

Episode 30: Larry Levis and Anastasia and Sandman

I love this devastating poem. Read from the Ecopoetry anthology. I highly recommend his books. He died far too young.
Feb 03, 202306:25
Episode 29: Openers with Longenbach and Vermeersch.

Episode 29: Openers with Longenbach and Vermeersch.

In which I talk about James Longenbach’s vital book The Resistence to Poetry and then conclude with a random poem about weird beauty from Paul Vermeersch’s New and Selected. Enjoy!
Feb 02, 202307:53
Episode 28: Entrances with Barbara Pelman

Episode 28: Entrances with Barbara Pelman

I chat about how we met and read her bios and notes and then Barb talks about poetry and specifically the glosa and ends with her poem Cello. Enjoy!
Feb 01, 202319:01
Episode 27: Walt Whitman’s Crossing Brooklyn Ferry

Episode 27: Walt Whitman’s Crossing Brooklyn Ferry

A ten minute recitation from 1856. Also can be found in the Ecopoetry anthology.
Jan 31, 202310:45
Episode 26: Entrances with Lynn Tait

Episode 26: Entrances with Lynn Tait

I apologize to Alden Nowlan who never lived in Nfld, read a silly cats poem inspired by a question from Lynn, and talk about where we met then intro her and she chats and recites a poem called A change in travel plans. Enjoy!
Jan 30, 202321:05
Episode 25: Jean Garrigue’s Pays Perdu

Episode 25: Jean Garrigue’s Pays Perdu

1959 long narrative poem on visiting a nearly abandoned village that can be found in her selected poems called Country without Maps.
Jan 27, 202317:33
Episode 24: Homages. For Ken Belford.

Episode 24: Homages. For Ken Belford.

1946-2020. Wilderness man and poet of ecology. A rare voice.
Jan 26, 202312:18
Episode 23: Entrances with Kat Cameron

Episode 23: Entrances with Kat Cameron

I chat about absurdities and time and read a bio and then Kat talks influences, grief, mentors and reads the longer poem Haunting. Enjoy!
Jan 25, 202315:59
Episode 22: Eliot Weinberger’s The Stars

Episode 22: Eliot Weinberger’s The Stars

A ten minute poem from the Eco Poetry anthology! A few mispronunciations happened but mostly it sings. Enjoy.
Jan 24, 202310:41
Episode 21: Entrances with Sharon Thesen

Episode 21: Entrances with Sharon Thesen

I chat about happiness and irks then do a bio and intro to Sharon’s chat and poem from her collaboration with Penn Kemp called PS as she promotes her upcoming volume Refabulations. Enjoy!
Jan 23, 202313:31
Episode 20: Maxine Kumin’s Marianne, my Mother and Me

Episode 20: Maxine Kumin’s Marianne, my Mother and Me

A nine or so minute poem tracing several key eras in the States, poetically, personally, politically through the perspectives of three women. It’s from Maxine Kumin’s 1989 collection Nurture. Taking a wee break from the Ecopoetry anthology where, alas, she is ill-represented by only one short lyric. Enjoy!
Jan 20, 202308:56
Episode 19: Entrances with Ben Gallagher

Episode 19: Entrances with Ben Gallagher

In which I intro his bio and chat and then he talks about grief, collaboration, emptiness, the dead and craft. And reads his poem Form of Losing. Enjoy!
Jan 19, 202316:15
Episode 18: Alden Nowlan homage and The Bull Moose

Episode 18: Alden Nowlan homage and The Bull Moose

In which I draw from novelist David Adams Richards account of the challenging life of Alden (1933-1993) and then recite his stirring poem The Bull Moose.
Jan 18, 202309:47
Episode 17: Openers with Mary Dalton and Wislawa Szymborska

Episode 17: Openers with Mary Dalton and Wislawa Szymborska

I read from Edge: essays, reviews, interviews (Palimpsest Press 2015) on contests and inspiration for young poets, then recite a random piece Allegro non Troppo from the great Polish poet.
Jan 17, 202310:54
Episode 16: Stanley Kunitz’s The Wellfleet Whale

Episode 16: Stanley Kunitz’s The Wellfleet Whale

From the Ecopoetry anthology. Five parts on the life and loss of a whale. I only randomly replaced one word “hunters” with “hundreds.” Sometimes my eye gets distracted by a cat ;) Otherwise, a stirring piece.
Jan 16, 202305:56
Episode 15: Jorie Graham’s Evolution

Episode 15: Jorie Graham’s Evolution

From the Ecopoetry anthology. Her long lines, jagged breaths, parenthetical pairings all bespeaking questions of the world’s energies.
Jan 13, 202306:57
Episode 14: Entrances with Pam Galloway

Episode 14: Entrances with Pam Galloway

In which I intro Pam through memory and bio and she chats about influences and origins and recites segments from her pregnancy difficulties poem called “Ways of Knowing.” Enjoy!
Jan 12, 202314:20
Episode 13: Elise Partridge, an Homage.

Episode 13: Elise Partridge, an Homage.

A poet who died in 2015 at 56, Elise was brilliant, ebullient, fiercely alive. I speak of the two times I met her (I say 2011 for the first but it was actually 2013!) and read excerpts from others memories as published in Quill and Quire and then her poem Waltzing. Thanks Elise.
Jan 11, 202312:09
Episode 12: Openers. Steve Heighton’s The Admen Move on Lhasa and the poem Island by Louise Gluck.

Episode 12: Openers. Steve Heighton’s The Admen Move on Lhasa and the poem Island by Louise Gluck.

In which I tell you the plan for the week in Season 7, then introduce The Admen move on Lhasa by Steve Heighton, read some underlined segments from the chapter In the Suburbs of the Heart and comment on them, insert a sentence from the book’s review and then at the end, recite Island by Gluck as my random connecting poem. Enjoy!
Jan 10, 202317:29
Episode 11: John Ashbery’s Into the Dusk-Charged Air

Episode 11: John Ashbery’s Into the Dusk-Charged Air

This is a brutal long poem to read with all its many names of rivers. I think I only flubbed once though the pronunciation of the names was dubious at times! Still, one of his finest. And from the Eco Poetry anthology!
Jan 09, 202307:57
Episode 10: Theodore Roethke’s Meditation at Oyster River

Episode 10: Theodore Roethke’s Meditation at Oyster River

Collected in the Ecopoetry anthology. Four parts. Beautiful.
Jan 06, 202304:23
Episode 9: Openers! Chit-chat, Mary Ruefle On Fear and Murmuration by Frances Boyle

Episode 9: Openers! Chit-chat, Mary Ruefle On Fear and Murmuration by Frances Boyle

In which I talk about my first official royalty cheque, offer reader responses then after a musical break, read two random passages from Mary Ruefle’s On Fear lecture in Madness, Rack and Honey and finish by reciting Murmuration by Frances Boyle. Enjoy!
Jan 05, 202322:45
Episode 8: Diana Brebner Homage

Episode 8: Diana Brebner Homage

Bits about her self (1956-2001), fragments from a review of her last book and a reading of The Sparrow Drawer from Radiant Life Forms (1990). Thanks Diana!
Jan 04, 202315:27
Episode 7: Elizabeth Bishop’s The Moose

Episode 7: Elizabeth Bishop’s The Moose

An earlier poem in the Ecopoetry anthology (Fisher-Wirth and Street, Trinity Press, 2013) and a beautiful reminder of the moose I saw on New Years Day, as I returned from Fort St John.
Jan 03, 202305:47
Episode 6: Reflections on 25 years of publishing in Canada.

Episode 6: Reflections on 25 years of publishing in Canada.

It’s Jan 2nd and I have thoughts! Since I put out my first trade book in 1998 so much has changed in the poetry scene in Canada. I talk about reading venues, publishing in presses and mags, the MFA glut, supporting poetry through sales/PLR and grants, ageism, boxes, the biz and the continued joys of reading and writing. Enjoy?!?!
Jan 02, 202330:20
Episode 5: Sylvia Legris. The Garden Body: A florilegium

Episode 5: Sylvia Legris. The Garden Body: A florilegium

In ten parts. Some tongue-twisters in here but her work endlessly fascinated. From Saskatchewan but this book was published in 2021 by New Directions on New York. She’s too wild for Canada ;)
Dec 29, 202208:08
Episode 4: AI Grrrr responses plus a real poem by Susan Glickman.

Episode 4: AI Grrrr responses plus a real poem by Susan Glickman.

Her poem is about a vanished toad. Which we, poets, must not become by yielding to the robots. Contains reactions by Katherine Autio, Katherine Bitney, Chika Buston and Karen Moe with AI input from Michael Bendner and quotes from Krista Tippet and unknown on art as vocation not work. Also includes a cat fight!!
Dec 27, 202226:15
Epsidode 3: Zoe Landale’s Seventh Elegy

Epsidode 3: Zoe Landale’s Seventh Elegy

From her small beautiful collection Orchid Heart Elegies, out this year from McGill-Queens. I love reciting long poems. It’s a challenge and meditative too. And elegies are the highest form of poems. Enjoy :)
Dec 23, 202208:19
Episode 2: a Grrrr against worrying about AI

Episode 2: a Grrrr against worrying about AI

In which I chat about the AI experiment going on lately via social media and counter it with a defence of criticism and a very human (even to the slip up in recitation) poem. Take solace!
Dec 22, 202208:54
Season 7. Episode 1: Susan Glickman’s Entrances

Season 7. Episode 1: Susan Glickman’s Entrances

In which I greet all you outlaws again and explain the universe haha then introduce Susan and her talk about sounds and forms before she reads her palindrome Like Instruments. Enjoy!
Dec 20, 202219:02
Episode 45: Z is for Zilch

Episode 45: Z is for Zilch

The final episode in Season Six is about nothing. And also joy. And the tragic. And contains a little grrrrr about poets needing to be able to teach in schools more often without all the hoops. Ok thanks for listening. Back for Season Seven in awhile :)
Nov 04, 202209:34
Episode 44: Y is for Yawping

Episode 44: Y is for Yawping

I begin with a recitation of Ancient Music by Ezra Pound to honour the winter and also to exemplify the yawp. And then I say what it is and why it matters to me and yes, more death!!
Nov 03, 202207:38
Episode 43: AR Ammons Corson’s Inlet

Episode 43: AR Ammons Corson’s Inlet

Another recitation of a longer poem by a wonderful American eco poet. Enjoy.
Nov 02, 202207:04
Episode 42: X is for X-ing out

Episode 42: X is for X-ing out

In which I bring in Tony Hoagland and Oscar Wilde, Wordsworth and Purdy to chat about why and how to revise, wildly.
Nov 01, 202210:43
Episode 41: Catherine Owen’s Material Witness (for Chris)

Episode 41: Catherine Owen’s Material Witness (for Chris)

Interesting that this is episode 41 and that’s how old Chris would have been now had he not died at 29. This poem was written to commemorate what could have been our 21st anniversary today though he died before our 9th. The bench isn’t ready to be installed yet actually but the poem is :)
Oct 31, 202202:28
Episode 40: W is for Wonder

Episode 40: W is for Wonder

Which I chat about, despite feeling like caca, and then read Galway Kinell’s wonder-full piece Daybreak.
Oct 28, 202206:49
Episode 39: V is for Villanelle

Episode 39: V is for Villanelle

And I also gripe a bit about people wanting me to mentor for free and then, at the end, recite a new villanelle I wrote based on mature love not wrenching grief.
Oct 27, 202208:02
Episode 38: Thomas Transtromer’s Out in the Open

Episode 38: Thomas Transtromer’s Out in the Open

And the impossibility of translation! Robert Bly tries and it’s better than nada but it all falls flat compared to the intricate sounds of Swedish. I read the first part of the three in my just-learning Swedish accents and then all three in English. Be kind ;)
Oct 26, 202205:02
Episode 37: U is for Uselessness

Episode 37: U is for Uselessness

In which I psychoanalyze myself in relation to why I’m useless and then define it and read a Gunnar Ekelof poem on his own uselessness.
Oct 25, 202207:49
Episode 36: Earle Birney’s David

Episode 36: Earle Birney’s David

A long narrative poem grounded in truths that should still be required reading today for its delectable (and sometimes tongue twisting) sonorities. And for what it says about living life to the fullest.
Oct 21, 202212:21
Episode 35: T is for Torment

Episode 35: T is for Torment

In which I ask why suffer for one’s art? And then read a poem of a former suffering. Phew. That’s done.
Oct 20, 202205:59
Episode 34: S is for Sonnet (and also, Seriously?)

Episode 34: S is for Sonnet (and also, Seriously?)

A lil bit of a grrrrr here first on why secret poets are judging a magazine’s poetry contest (does it have anything to do with identity politics over art? Seriously!) and then the sonnet and a combinative example of the form Joe Rosenblatt and I published in Dog (2008).
Oct 20, 202207:46
Episode 33: Len Gasparini homage

Episode 33: Len Gasparini homage

1941-2022. Renegade writer and exister on the edges. I chat about his life and excerpt from some interviews and end with a poem about hitting the road. Wild travels Len.
Oct 18, 202214:33
Episode 32: R is for Rhythm

Episode 32: R is for Rhythm

I wonder about rhythm vs meter and then I recite the Robinson Jeffers’ poem Return.
Oct 17, 202207:13
Episode 31: Kay Boyle’s parts 1-4 of For an American

Episode 31: Kay Boyle’s parts 1-4 of For an American

1926. Parts 1-4 minus the final Lament just because I wanted to only read four parts to give you a sense of her intensely lyrical narrative style. Someone also says “Ok” and I recorded it in a closed bathroom so it’s delightfully echoey ;)
Oct 14, 202205:17
Episode 30: Q is for Questions

Episode 30: Q is for Questions

In which I question my questions and read excerpts from an interview with Sylvia Plath and conclude with a poem about an apple.
Oct 12, 202209:55
Episode 29: Richard Sanger’s Dark Woods

Episode 29: Richard Sanger’s Dark Woods

From the 2018 same-titled slim and stirring volume of poems. RIP Richard (1960-2022)
Oct 06, 202204:42
Episode 28: A Dry Death by Olena Kalytiak Davies

Episode 28: A Dry Death by Olena Kalytiak Davies

From her 2003 Tin House collection “shattered sonnets love cards and other off and back handed importunities.” A wild piece of Berryman, Roethke, Joycean muckery w foul language! ;)
Oct 04, 202206:24
Episode 27: P is for Poetry

Episode 27: P is for Poetry

In which I define the art and give valuable pointers. Or just ramble about in my weird head ;)
Oct 03, 202211:09
Episode 26: Armand Garnet Ruffo’s On the Day the World Begins Again

Episode 26: Armand Garnet Ruffo’s On the Day the World Begins Again

For the National Day of Truth and Reconciliation a poem from Ruffo’s 2019 book out from Wolsak & Wynn called Treaty#. Recite Indigenous works today and whenever you can.
Sep 30, 202202:01
Episode 25: Gjertrud Schnackenberg’s The Light-Grey Soil

Episode 25: Gjertrud Schnackenberg’s The Light-Grey Soil

From her 2010 collection of six long poems called Heavenly Questions. Stunning elegy. And yes I have a cold.
Sep 29, 202208:04
Episode 24: Wallace Stevens’ Sunday Morning: a reading.

Episode 24: Wallace Stevens’ Sunday Morning: a reading.

It’s all about poetry, the poem. Sometimes I don’t want to talk. I just want to recite. This poem is majestic and from 1923.
Sep 27, 202207:04
Episode 23: O is for Order

Episode 23: O is for Order

I ramble. I talk about my cat. I wonder why I wrote some things that seemed meaningful at the time. It’s disorder about order! Enjoy.
Sep 22, 202206:42
Episode 22: N is for Neologism

Episode 22: N is for Neologism

And I talk of Roethke and defamiliarization and my headache too.
Sep 21, 202207:26
Episode 21: Tim Lilburn and Margaret Christakos, an imagined reading.

Episode 21: Tim Lilburn and Margaret Christakos, an imagined reading.

I forgot to say the Christakos book came out in 2021 from Palimpsest Press. Marrow review out next week. And here she “reads” with Lilburn from 1994. After a quote on looking. And an addendum on muses. Seeing is all.
Sep 20, 202208:29
Episode 20: M is for Muses

Episode 20: M is for Muses

What’s the difference between a muse and inspirations? Why have I had male muses? Are muses essential or detrimental? Find out here ;)
Sep 19, 202209:24
Episode 19: L is for Line Breaks

Episode 19: L is for Line Breaks

I speak of the resistance to poetry and how line breaks are part of this and also talk about love.
Sep 16, 202210:25
Episode 18: An addendum to the Grrrrr

Episode 18: An addendum to the Grrrrr

With a notion about a philanthropy of infrastructure rather than fame, a quote from Anne Waldman and a draft of a poem giving courage if not hope ;)
Sep 15, 202206:27
Episode 17: A grrrrr on the Griffin and prize culture in Canada

Episode 17: A grrrrr on the Griffin and prize culture in Canada

I invoke Dean Young to say a few things about what’s wrong with the Griffin and no Canadian prize and only one prize and the ickiness of it all that has nil to do with poetry. Yep.
Sep 14, 202211:27
Episode 16: K is for Katharsis

Episode 16: K is for Katharsis

Is it for the poet or the audience or both? What do scholars say? Let’s think about it.
Sep 13, 202210:08
Episode 15: Tregebov and Kishkan, an imagined reading.

Episode 15: Tregebov and Kishkan, an imagined reading.

In which I talk a bit about feminism and women writing their bodies and what’s happening to it all and then read a poem from Tregebov’s 2001 book On the Strength of Materials (Wolsak & Wynn) and Kishkan’s 1993 Black Cup (Beach Holme. Ed by Robin Skelton!).
Sep 12, 202211:04
Episode 14: Mick Burrs, an homage.

Episode 14: Mick Burrs, an homage.

1940-2021. One of our most mysterious and humble poets I’d say.
Sep 08, 202207:55
Episode 13: J is for Journals

Episode 13: J is for Journals

And also Jarring and another word for Diary and even Jeffers (Robinson). Enjoy!
Sep 07, 202211:23
Episode 12: I is for Intensity

Episode 12: I is for Intensity

Happy back to school! I speak of the crucial value of intensity in a poetic practice and read Emily Dickinson’s “I felt a funeral.”
Sep 06, 202208:06
Episode 11: H is for Haibun

Episode 11: H is for Haibun

I chat about the form and read an example. Mess about with it!
Sep 01, 202205:51
Episode 10: G is for: glosa and ghazal

Episode 10: G is for: glosa and ghazal

I talk about these forms and read an example each from Diane Seuss and Naomi Foyle. Experimenting is everything.
Aug 31, 202210:34
Episode 9: Imagined Reading with Marguerite Pigeon and Dani Couture

Episode 9: Imagined Reading with Marguerite Pigeon and Dani Couture

From Inventory (09, Anvil Press) and Listen Before Transmit (18, Buckrider Books). I lament the losses of books and then feature these two tough and sharp poets with their poems about enumerated dwellings.
Aug 30, 202208:04
Episode 8: F is for Freedom

Episode 8: F is for Freedom

In which I take back this word and think about what it means for the poem and especially the pursuit of muses and also, for women.
Aug 29, 202207:45
Episode 7: E is for Entertainment

Episode 7: E is for Entertainment

I ramble, I read Larkin and I contradict my own perceptions so it’s all most entertaining!
Aug 27, 202208:30
Episode 6: D is for Diction

Episode 6: D is for Diction

I chat about my own sonorous language obsessions, mention Longenbach and pop Death in at the end too.
Aug 23, 202206:41
Episode 5: Imagined Reading with the “two” Erin Moures.

Episode 5: Imagined Reading with the “two” Erin Moures.

In which I rant about the need for diversity, incorporate quotes from a Q & Q review, present two poems from two Moure texts and mispronounce Pessoa’s name (it’s FernandO of course ;)
Aug 22, 202209:37
Episode 4: C is for Craft

Episode 4: C is for Craft

Craft is the patterned heart of the poem. No poet can be without it.
Aug 19, 202207:49
Episode 3: B is for Beauty

Episode 3: B is for Beauty

Hard to scratch at the aesthetic surfaces of this concept but I try. Is beauty the core of poetry or its downfall or irrelevant or or or?
Aug 18, 202205:57
Episode 2: Imagined Readings 1 with Legris and Bowling

Episode 2: Imagined Readings 1 with Legris and Bowling

In which I imagine that Sylvia Legris and Tim Bowling were able to recite poems together from her 2005 book Squall and his 2019 collection The Dark Set. What are the echoes? You decide.
Aug 17, 202210:05
Season Six: Episode 1: A for attitude

Season Six: Episode 1: A for attitude

In which I commence a series called an Abecedarian of Poetics, each featuring a paragraph or two on some element of poesis. This is on stance and ferocity. Wait and see what else I come up with!
Aug 16, 202207:02
Episode 25: David McFadden Homage

Episode 25: David McFadden Homage

1940-2018. He reads a poem at the Griffin ceremony, I have memories and recount bio bits and then read a Gary Barwin piece for him at the end. Thanks Dave and connect with you word musicians again in Season Six!
Jun 10, 202214:24
Episode 24: Jean Van Loon, a conversation!

Episode 24: Jean Van Loon, a conversation!

In which there are still tech difficulties and I say wonderful too often (with Chris Banks it was incredible! Always one dominant word). I also talk too much (and cough) but sometimes that’s the way it goes. We chat about grief, cadence, writing revenge ditties, working in offices, university workshops, poetic infrastructure, the importance of reviews, and her latest book Nuclear Family! And Jean reads her poem Peopling the Night.
Jun 09, 202249:18
Episode 23: Chris Banks, a chat!

Episode 23: Chris Banks, a chat!

We triumphed over a range of tech challenges to chat deeply about music, form, nostalgia’s dangers, small towns, the need to read widely, growing up, transforming style, and the sustenance of the poem. And he reads his poem Hit Parade. A terrific time!
Jun 08, 202255:31
Episode 22: Bronwyn Wallace homage

Episode 22: Bronwyn Wallace homage

Gone at 44, she left us fierce poems about living as women in the world. Read her!
Jun 02, 202210:12
Episode 21: Kateri Lanthier interview

Episode 21: Kateri Lanthier interview

I’m a bit quieter in this one as we progress as I develop a cough! But boy did we have a deep chat about allusions and freedom, the Me Too movement, grandfathers, children, the importance of readings and dreams of a Poet’s Place other than on the bottom shelf. And she reads her piece Fiat Lux.
Jun 01, 202201:02:01
Episode 20: Michael Dennis homage

Episode 20: Michael Dennis homage

1956-2020. Poet, life adventurer, reviewer. Bio, memories and messages, chat about reviewing, a poem about the death of his mother. Thanks Michael.
May 27, 202215:07
Episode 19: Frances Boyle conversation

Episode 19: Frances Boyle conversation

In which the Ottawa poet and I talk about breath, writing processes, mentors, the origins of poetry in grief, the importance of reviews and the unimportance of prizes and much else. And she reads a poem called The Whole Tall World. O and I believe the writing workshop we met at was called Writing Wild Mind. Ah well, it was long ago!
May 25, 202243:34
Episode 18: Priscila Uppal homage

Episode 18: Priscila Uppal homage

Gone at 43 she filled a room with her bountiful accomplishments and colourful presence. I read her obit and then her poem of death that has no angels in it.
May 23, 202207:26
Episode 17: Kuldip Gill homage

Episode 17: Kuldip Gill homage

Fraser Valley poet who wrote about India and Canada and died in 2009. And was an elegant effervescent life force!
May 20, 202206:26
Episode 16: Earle Birney homage

Episode 16: Earle Birney homage

1904-1995. Bon vivant, mountaineer, experimentalist, life force of a poet. Thanks Earle!
May 17, 202212:44
Episode 15: Miranda Pearson, a conversation

Episode 15: Miranda Pearson, a conversation

In which I chat with a poet I’ve known a long time. From England! On the couplet, sound in poetry, being wild, sexuality, a parental death, publishing and audience, the arrogance of the young and the maverick world of art!
May 11, 202247:34
Episode 14: A grrrrrr against poetic careerism.

Episode 14: A grrrrrr against poetic careerism.

What does community mean to you as a poet? Why do you write? Are you only interested in what you get paid, awards, accolades? Why does one do interviews or reviews or host events? I am wondering. Today, I wonder.
May 10, 202208:14
Epsode 13: Miriam Waddington homage

Epsode 13: Miriam Waddington homage

1917-2004. Poet, translator, scholar and social worker. A fierce creator. Personal memories, a bio and her poem Mechanics for Women!
May 09, 202213:28
Episode 12: Robert Priest conversation

Episode 12: Robert Priest conversation

A two-parter with this People’s Poet from Toronto on form, mental health, reading, early poetic development, politics, publication, old school submission procedures and love for the art. And he recites a haunting ghazal. Thanks Robert!
May 04, 202250:51
Episode 11: David Haskins homage

Episode 11: David Haskins homage

In which he recites his poem “How to be a Canadian Poet” and then I read his bio, some review excerpts and a few messages. I um too much for once and get a bit emotional at the end but it’s all well meant. Thanks Dave.
May 02, 202212:23
Episode 10: Marya Fiamengo homage

Episode 10: Marya Fiamengo homage

1926-2013 Vancouver poet and bon vivant of being fully alive. Reminiscences and a reading of At the Pornographer’s.
Apr 29, 202209:05
Episode 9: Elizabeth Gourlay Homage

Episode 9: Elizabeth Gourlay Homage

1917-2009. Eventual Vancouver poet who had more than a few words to say about not growing old, about painting, and most of all, about her prized roses. I read her poem The Lack. And I wish I still had that photo of her posing so regally in a red gown!
Apr 27, 202209:16
Episode 8: Robert Colman in conversation.

Episode 8: Robert Colman in conversation.

A ghazal-like chat with the Ontario poet about grief (and with an emotional reading of his pantoumn), forms, the importance of translation, reviews and reading series, poets like Steve Heighton and M Travis Lane and process. Complete with sniffling, barking dogs, and a few cars and planes ;) Enjoy!
Apr 25, 202201:06:06
Episode 7: Steven Heighton: a sonnet of fragments, in homage.

Episode 7: Steven Heighton: a sonnet of fragments, in homage.

I still can’t believe he died two days ago. 1961-2022. Here are my memories, segments of him singing and reciting, fragments of my tour diaries and emails from him, of his texts and my review. Bits of a beautiful life devoted to art. Made with love. Thank you always Steve
Apr 21, 202222:31
Episode 6: Al Pittman homage

Episode 6: Al Pittman homage

(1940-2001) poet and creator from Newfoundland. I recollect a difficult reading from him near the end of his life, tell you a bit about his bio and recite a poem The Dance of the Mayflies. Thanks Al.
Apr 14, 202208:34
Episode 5: Catherine Graham in conversation

Episode 5: Catherine Graham in conversation

Truly an energetic Zoom chat, the longest yet, with this Toronto poet. About grief, publishing different genres, the importance of a good editor, tentacles and fountains, the organic core, Stafford and Dickinson and Gluck and age and auralities. Chock a block full of this and more and so much laughter!
Apr 12, 202252:47
Episode 4: Homage to Mavis Jones (1930-2018)

Episode 4: Homage to Mavis Jones (1930-2018)

Find this poet’s books!! She is worth it. Thanks environmentalist, writer and warm as a seal human :)
Apr 09, 202206:06
Episode 3: John Newlove homage

Episode 3: John Newlove homage

1938-2003 peripatetic poet supremo. I talk a bit about his life, when I heard him read, share a few critical reflections and recite his famous piece Ride off any Horizon. Happy Birthday Dad.
Apr 08, 202209:46
Episode 2: M Travis Lane, a conversation!

Episode 2: M Travis Lane, a conversation!

In my first Zoom interview, I converse with Travis Lane from Fredericton NB about everything from Elizabeth Bishop to the war, from the importance of being able to learn to howl like wolves to how Canada radically lacks saints. And first, she recites the poem Rich Autumn (along with a few childhood ditties!) I laugh and gush too much but there you have it. She’s 87 and an amazing force :)
Apr 05, 202243:34
Season 5: Episode 1. Ellen S Jaffe. An homage.

Season 5: Episode 1. Ellen S Jaffe. An homage.

For Ellen. Who died on March 16 at 77 and who was a fabulous human and committed poet and lovely presence in the world. Thank you.
Mar 30, 202213:49
Episode 40: Ruth Stone’s Train Ride

Episode 40: Ruth Stone’s Train Ride

In homage to Joe Rosenblatt’s third passing away day, the final elegy in The Art of Losing. Passage yes. And Beauty. Gone and yet forever. See you in Season Five outlaws.
Mar 11, 202206:13
Episode 39: James Merrill’s Last Words

Episode 39: James Merrill’s Last Words

Ok I’m sick but I’m still recording this second to last piece in The Art of Losing and one of my fave poets, Mr Merrill. Whose Last Words are beautiful.
Mar 10, 202206:34
Episode 38: A grrrr against cliché

Episode 38: A grrrr against cliché

I went to a show. It was amazing. Except the writing. Why? Cliche. Why do we accept this in our art making. I say nay. A writer’s job is to refresh the language so one can feel again. And do. I bring in definitions and a bit of a draft and Pound and Frost. It could go in many directions. Here’s a start.
Mar 09, 202211:51
Episode 37: Jane Kenyon’s Otherwise

Episode 37: Jane Kenyon’s Otherwise

Happy international Women’s day! Herewith a poem on gratitude and the senses and reality from The Art Of Losing and a poet we lost too soon.
Mar 08, 202204:47
Episode 36: e e cummings and i thank you god for most this amazing.

Episode 36: e e cummings and i thank you god for most this amazing.

This atheist-earthiest still loves this god poem by the nutty Cummings and his typographical jolliness. And it was a day like that for me today. Giving thanks by a fire pit under a blue sky. Includes a 1953 recording of the poet reading the piece himself. Yes.
Mar 08, 202210:15
Episode 35: Philip Larkin’s The Trees

Episode 35: Philip Larkin’s The Trees

Enjoy this curmudgeon librarian and his too true poem about the lies of nature’s renewal as I bumble about trying to explicate rhymes ;) From the Redemption section of The Art of Losing.
Mar 04, 202208:34
Episode 34: Theodore Roethke’s The Waking

Episode 34: Theodore Roethke’s The Waking

Boy it’s a challenge to talk about form and rhythm schemes! At any rate, here’s a reading by the poet himself, me nattering and then reciting it too. One of the most mysterious villanelles. Last elegy in the section on Recovery (loathe that word!) in The Art of Losing.
Mar 03, 202210:37
Episode 33: Ted Kooser’s Father

Episode 33: Ted Kooser’s Father

I blather a bit here as sometimes happens when I’m trying to trace deeply embedded rhythms but yes, the shifting tones, the deeply human beauty of dying at just the right time and not malingering.
Mar 02, 202206:49
Episode 32: John Ashbery’s Light Turnouts

Episode 32: John Ashbery’s Light Turnouts

I forgot to talk about the title! It means where a train goes off on its own track. But only lightly. O Ashbery. This one’s for Frank.
Mar 01, 202210:17
Episode 31: WS Merwin’s For the Anniversary of my Death

Episode 31: WS Merwin’s For the Anniversary of my Death

A curious, compelling thought. We don’t know the date we will die but we pass the day each year. For Chris. Whose birthday it was yesterday when he was alive.
Feb 28, 202206:34
Episode 30: Jane Mayhall’s The Gilded Shadow

Episode 30: Jane Mayhall’s The Gilded Shadow

Hey if one could only still write poems like this at 85! An elegy for her husband in the Recovery section of The Art of Losing.
Feb 26, 202206:27
Episode 29: Frank O’Hara’s My Heart

Episode 29: Frank O’Hara’s My Heart

It’s Part Five or Recovery (a misnomer) in The Art of Losing and Frank O’Hara gives us My Heart which I stumblingly discuss and then try to leave it to its own messy resonances!
Feb 25, 202205:55
Episode 28: Elizabeth Bishop’s One Art

Episode 28: Elizabeth Bishop’s One Art

A gorgeous villanelle that both makes and breaks the form to evidence the art of losing and how it’s done :)
Feb 23, 202209:08
Episode 27: Jean Valentine’s My Mother’s Body, My Professor, My Bower

Episode 27: Jean Valentine’s My Mother’s Body, My Professor, My Bower

From the Ritual section of The Art of Losing. Valentine’s paean to the somatic, the origins, the real. Happy Family Day. Hug your mother.
Feb 21, 202207:33
Episode 26: Deborah Digges’ Seersucker Suit

Episode 26: Deborah Digges’ Seersucker Suit

A gorgeous elegy from the Ritual section of the grief anthology on the tangibilities of loss, the wardrobe of mourning.
Feb 18, 202208:24
Episode 25: Yusef Komunyakaa’s Facing it

Episode 25: Yusef Komunyakaa’s Facing it

To face the Vietnam memorial; to face losses, the war’s past and now. Reflections. Real? Imagined? All is one in this elegy from the Ritual section of The Art of Losing.
Feb 16, 202205:58
Episode 24: Gwendolyn McEwen’s Dark Pines Under Water

Episode 24: Gwendolyn McEwen’s Dark Pines Under Water

A listener’s/interviewee’s choice poem from Susan McCaslin! She read it under a tree in the Han Shan forest and I talked about McEwen’s life and poem with its rich echoes and metaphysical resonances. Happy Day of Love!
Feb 14, 202208:08
Episode 23: Susan McCaslin: a conversation

Episode 23: Susan McCaslin: a conversation

In which I hmmmm a lot and a dog barks while we sip tea in a gloriously sunny Fort Langley kitchen, but also we chat about flowers becoming Wonderland, form poems, saving a forest, singing opera, literary allusiveness, cancel culture, poetic diversity and transcendence. And Susan reads Dear Lovers’ Tree in the Han Shan Woods. Thank you mentor and teacher and friend.
Feb 13, 202248:05
Episode 22: Dylan Thomas’s A Refusal to Mourn the Death, By Fire, of a Child in London

Episode 22: Dylan Thomas’s A Refusal to Mourn the Death, By Fire, of a Child in London

This poem, from the Remembrance section of the Art of Losing, and one of Thomas’s most sonorous pieces is nonetheless problematic. I relish its resonances and get irked by its intents. Such is poetry. There to make you feel and think!
Feb 08, 202210:45
Episode 21: Robert Hayden’s Those Winter Sundays

Episode 21: Robert Hayden’s Those Winter Sundays

A beautiful elegy for the knowledge of sacrifice and duty one could re-read eternally. From The Art of Losing’s Remembrance section.
Feb 07, 202207:27
Episode 20: Doug Barbour (1940-2021) homage

Episode 20: Doug Barbour (1940-2021) homage

Although I accidentally misname Doug’s wife and deal with the dog’s barkings I aim to otherwise create a true homage to this poet, speculative fiction creator and community builder for the arts, pastiched from other homages, his bio, a poem on Cezanne and my own memories. Thanks Doug!
Feb 05, 202209:45
Episode 19: Hal Sirowitz’s Remember Me

Episode 19: Hal Sirowitz’s Remember Me

Yay new intro and outro! And also another elegy, this time from the Remembrance section of The Art of Losing, on parents picking their cemetery plots. It’s a bit funny. And Hal is a new poet for me so also yay!
Feb 03, 202206:09
Episode 18: Charles Wright’s Clear Night

Episode 18: Charles Wright’s Clear Night

A reading of this poem as selected by Yvonne Blomer, then me chatting about its form and content and reciting it too! Wright rocks. Relish!
Jan 31, 202207:50
Episode 17: Yvonne Blomer in Conversation

Episode 17: Yvonne Blomer in Conversation

At the Penny Farthing pub in Victoria BC, I have a grand chat with the former poet laureate Yvonne Blomer. We talk about workshops, feminism, parenthood, Woolf, the sonnet, rhythms, pandemic pursuits and the meat of it all. And she reads a poem called Broadening! Enjoy the ambiance too, including an interruption by four scooter denizens ;) We aim to disrupt yes we do.
Jan 30, 202231:47
Episode 16: Robert Bringhurst’s Birds on the Water

Episode 16: Robert Bringhurst’s Birds on the Water

As recited by my brother Simon and then discussed in its form, repetitions, sounds and content by me! Plus I tell you what else the inimitable Bringhurst writes.
Jan 28, 202209:14
Episode 15: Edna St Vincent Millay’s Dirge without Music

Episode 15: Edna St Vincent Millay’s Dirge without Music

The last piece in the second section Regret in the Art of Losing anthology, a beautiful rhymed elegy on a refusal to accept by one of America’s once deeply loved poets. And no one interrupted me! Miracle of miracles!!
Jan 25, 202205:23
Episode 14: Dream song 14 by John Berryman

Episode 14: Dream song 14 by John Berryman

Herewith Kevin Spenst reciting his Listener’s Choice selection, me trying to chat about it while people move boxes behind me (hence forgetting the significance of the last line’s colon), and then hey I read it to. What an obsession this world was for Mr Berryman indeed.
Jan 24, 202207:41
Episode 13: Kevin Spenst In Conversation

Episode 13: Kevin Spenst In Conversation

In which (in a Vancouver coffee shop with its background music) he reads his amazing poem The Geology of a Moment and we talk about the 70s, the 90s, Roy Miki, the sounds of words, border blurs, the academy, love, the importance of venues for poetry, and how to chill. And we giggle or guffaw a lot too. Enjoy!
Jan 23, 202229:24
Episode 12: Thom Gunn’s The Reassurance

Episode 12: Thom Gunn’s The Reassurance

In which I pick a very short poem to recite from the Regret section of The Art of Losing thinking I won’t be interrupted at my parents’ house. But of course there is always a dog somewhere or a closing door. At any rate, I aim to engage in this dream elegy. We always want them to return.
Jan 20, 202205:10
Episode 11: Phyllis Webb Homage (1927-2021)

Episode 11: Phyllis Webb Homage (1927-2021)

In which I read a couple of her short lyrics, consider why she stopped writing poetry, talk about her work life, along with her painting and collage, note her supporters, quote her on the writing process and recollect the four times I encountered her in Vancouver and on Saltspring Island. Thanks Phyllis.
Jan 19, 202209:59
Episode 10: Ruth Stone’s Speaking to my Dead Mother

Episode 10: Ruth Stone’s Speaking to my Dead Mother

The American poet Ruth Stone’s elegiac sonnet from the Regret section of The Art of Losing. Be always in the moment.
Jan 17, 202206:01
Episode 9: Gregory Orr’s A Litany

Episode 9: Gregory Orr’s A Litany

Based on a real and tragic episode, this elegy from the second section, Regret, in The Art of Losing anthology, is Orr’s accounting of his accidental killing of his brother and how he turned to poetry in his grief. Language. It’s there to mourn with too.
Jan 16, 202206:56
Episode 8: Derek Walcott’s Sea Canes

Episode 8: Derek Walcott’s Sea Canes

Another stirring elegy from the first section, Reckoning, in The Art of Losing. And prior to this a paragraph on the elegiac mode from Kevin Young’s intro. And my bumbling abouts ;)
Jan 12, 202207:18
Episode 7: Natasha Trethewey’s Graveyard Blues

Episode 7: Natasha Trethewey’s Graveyard Blues

Another elegy from the first part of The Art of Losing with a little background info and a recitation of this gorgeous and tragic blues sonnet.
Jan 11, 202208:21
Episode 5: Philip Larkin’s The Mower

Episode 5: Philip Larkin’s The Mower

Another elegy from the first section of The Art of Losing with a further paragraph from editor Kevin Young’s intro then a reading and discussion of Larkin’s paean to the need to be kind to all creatures who suffer death.
Jan 10, 202208:21
Episode 4: DH Lawrence’s Silence from The Art of Losing

Episode 4: DH Lawrence’s Silence from The Art of Losing

In which I begin a random sampling of elegies in sections from the anthology The Art of Losing: poems of grief and healing, edited by American poet Kevin Young (2010). I read the first two paragraphs of his introduction and then Lawrence’s haunting four stanza piece. And talk about some of its impacts and effects. Enjoy outlaws!
Jan 08, 202208:01
Episode 3: Anne Szumigalski homage

Episode 3: Anne Szumigalski homage

Happy New Year outlaws! In which I chat about her books, how I met her, and read a bio, a blurb by Joe and a poem called Quince. Thanks Anne :)
Jan 03, 202207:20
Episode 2: James Merrill's The Kimono read by Katherine Bitney and me.

Episode 2: James Merrill's The Kimono read by Katherine Bitney and me.

A Listener's Choice Poem from my recent interview subject in Winnipeg. And Katherine actually introduced the pleasures of Merrill to me! A perfect poem to end 2021. Enjoy poetry outlaws :)
Dec 31, 202111:49
Season 4. Episode 1. Katherine Bitney interview after a wrap/intro to the new season!

Season 4. Episode 1. Katherine Bitney interview after a wrap/intro to the new season!

Ms Lyric's begins Season 4 in Winnipeg having a wild conversation with poet Katherine Bitney about all things crow, poem, grief, witness, wildness and spells that make you go whoopsie! But first I start with a brief wrap of Season 3 and an intro to the new approaches of Season 4. Happy Merry word musicians :)
Dec 25, 202146:42
Episode 30: Heather Haley interview Parts One and Two

Episode 30: Heather Haley interview Parts One and Two

The final episode of Season Three, featuring a raucous conversation with Vancouver poet Heather Haley at the Italian restaurant Marcello's on the Drive. Let's call this one We Have Muzzled Nothing and Meat of the Matter where we cackle and chat about being tomboys, the punk rock circus, minimalist ethos, the importance of fucking, detachment from the scene and the hubris of youth. And she recites her poem Voracious. Amid sirens while sipping sauv blanc! Thanks poets and listeners :) Back with Season 4 in late winter 2022!!
Dec 10, 202130:13
Episode 29: Barbara Pelman's Walk On: a Fugue

Episode 29: Barbara Pelman's Walk On: a Fugue

Fugues are about voicings, repetitions, hauntings. This is the last piece I'm reciting from the Planet Earth poetry anthology. Thanks to all Victoria poets who host and run series and workshop events! And to all the poetic forms in the world.
Dec 09, 202105:36
Episode 28: Jen Currin and On Peace Street

Episode 28: Jen Currin and On Peace Street

A poem about love from the Planet Earth anthology. A Vancouver poet. It's Wednesday and snowing in Edmonton too.
Dec 08, 202104:25
Episode 27: Eve Joseph and the Halfway World of the Pantanal

Episode 27: Eve Joseph and the Halfway World of the Pantanal

A palindrome of grief and beauty within the lush, lost worlds of indigeneity and nature. From the Planet Earth series anthology and another fine BC poet.
Dec 07, 202103:35
Episode 26: Russell Thornton's The Aeschylus Rock

Episode 26: Russell Thornton's The Aeschylus Rock

From Planet Earth Poetry poems, Yvonne Blomer's anthology, It's mythical, it's gory, it's true. And boy does it sound good.
Dec 06, 202105:05
Episode 25: Jan Zwicky's Autobiography

Episode 25: Jan Zwicky's Autobiography

From the Planet Earth poetry anthology from 2013. Poem one of five. I introduce the reading series, read from editor and host Yvonne Blomer's afterword and recite and talk about the memories and sounds of the Zwicky piece. Reading series, they matter.
Dec 03, 202107:59
Episode 24: Jamie Reid Homage

Episode 24: Jamie Reid Homage

In which I remember Jamie, affable, nutty, incensed, supportive, and jazzy. He was a good writer and person and I will always miss his presence at events as he photographed and absorbed. Thanks Mr Dadababy.
Dec 02, 202113:43
Episode 23: Anne Sexton's Her Kind.

Episode 23: Anne Sexton's Her Kind.

Requested by Edmontonian interview guest Alice Major. She thought I might post it around Halloween but hey it's just as powerful a spell on December 1st. Sexton speaks to all female creators who haven't felt accepted within patriarchy. And she does it here with craft and craftiness. I relate? Do you?
Dec 01, 202106:48
Episode 22: Pat Lowther's A Stone Diary

Episode 22: Pat Lowther's A Stone Diary

Requested by former interviewee from Edmonton, Paul Pearson. We speak of stones, gems, history, coming to sensual consciousness, the muse and Lowther, one of our mothers in Canadian women's poetry.
Nov 30, 202107:30
Episode 21: Emily Nilsen's Meanwhile in his Dreams

Episode 21: Emily Nilsen's Meanwhile in his Dreams

As requested by Edmontonian interview guest Kelly Shepherd! It's about family, the environment, the self. And sounds. And it haunts. Happy Monday!
Nov 29, 202106:09
Episode 20: Bach's B Minor Mass by Robert Bly

Episode 20: Bach's B Minor Mass by Robert Bly

As requested by a Vancouver interview subject, Diane Tucker. A beautiful poem about transcendental power through music and spirituality. And RIP Bly who just died this year!
Nov 26, 202107:45
Episode 19: George Herbert's Prayer 1 requested by Chris Hutchinson

Episode 19: George Herbert's Prayer 1 requested by Chris Hutchinson

Another Listener's Choice Poem from an interview subject, this one in Edmonton not Vancouver! O Herbert. Ever challenging to unfold. He resists. He gives. And he forgives my bumblings around with explications of what is after all his mystery :)
Nov 25, 202108:10
Episode 18: Heather Haley requests No'U Revilla's Smoke Screen.

Episode 18: Heather Haley requests No'U Revilla's Smoke Screen.

A Vancouver poet (who I have indeed interviewed but whose interview won't be posted until the last episode of Season 3!) asks me to read a Hawaiian poet. A gorgeous piece about work and fatherhood and love and loss. And smoking! Relish it.
Nov 24, 202106:33
Episode 17: Jane Hirshfield's A Ream of Paper

Episode 17: Jane Hirshfield's A Ream of Paper

Selected as a Listener's Choice by my first interview subject Heidi Greco. It's not a simple piece after all! There's violence in this writing. What's that deer doing anyway? And you can hear my cat.
Nov 23, 202106:27
Episode 16: A Grrrrr on The Poverty of the Poetic Ecology

Episode 16: A Grrrrr on The Poverty of the Poetic Ecology

I begin by reading a series of fragments from the ancient satirist Juvenal to show how old this type of grrrrrr is ;) Then I chat to myself in my yard (or maybe all the birds care) about the disparities and insufficiencies relating to big prizes/arts admin pay vs the every day impoverished maker's reality. And end with a quote about the whole notion that if you love something you should never ask to be paid fairly to undertake it. Say what? Let's shift the system and make it different! This poet says yes.
Nov 22, 202115:29
Episode 15: Rob Taylor's The Wailing Machines

Episode 15: Rob Taylor's The Wailing Machines

The final poem in the Revolving City anthology for Friday! And I talk the anthology beast in general before discussing verbs and the Commercial Drive neighborhood in Taylor's powerful piece about vulnerability and love.
Nov 19, 202104:28
Episode 14: A Conversation with Geoff Nilson

Episode 14: A Conversation with Geoff Nilson

In which we rant and chuckle and explore aspects of form, eco-poetry, the gift economy of art, the problems with publishing, and the need to transcend what's expected and engage with the alternate. It's a raucous epic fueled by cheap wine at the Cannibal cafe in Vancouver!
Nov 18, 202147:44
Episode 13: Homage to Heather Spears

Episode 13: Homage to Heather Spears

Although I sound gooned at the start I can assure you it's a November morning and I am not. I talk about Heather Spears life and work, her death in 2021, her character and life energy. I flub the name of one of her books - it is the Word for Sand not Name. And I read her funny piece about poetry readings. Another amazing female poet and creative gone.
Nov 17, 202109:48
Episode 12: Heather Haley's Fleshpot.

Episode 12: Heather Haley's Fleshpot.

Second to last piece from the Revolving City anthology and I hem and haw and um a lot here, partly because I recorded this episode in my parents' garden and was worried about being interrupted and in part due to the fact that I am aiming to explicate staccato rhythms ;) at any rate, I read the poem well. Relish the vulnerability!
Nov 16, 202103:55
Episode 11: Steve Collis' On the Indexical or Hockey Night in the Anthropocene.

Episode 11: Steve Collis' On the Indexical or Hockey Night in the Anthropocene.

A climate change poem from The Revolving City anthology by an SFU prof. The delicate ways poetry can address gargantuan issues.
Nov 15, 202105:37
Episode 10: Miranda Pearson's Kerrisdale

Episode 10: Miranda Pearson's Kerrisdale

Poem two from The Revolving City anthology features a tony hood, aging denizens, heartbreak and survival. I talk about the poem. I read it. Enjoy!
Nov 12, 202104:53
Episode 9: Evelyn Lau's Solitary from The Revolving City anthology.

Episode 9: Evelyn Lau's Solitary from The Revolving City anthology.

Edited by Compton and Saklikar, this Vancouver-based collection of poems and their stories came out in 2015 as a culmination of the Lunch poems reading series at the downtown SFU campus. Lau's poem reminds us of the hell of Van real estate but also the small joys of living alone.
Nov 11, 202105:50
Episode 8: Grief at Personal and Eco Loss in Poetry

Episode 8: Grief at Personal and Eco Loss in Poetry

A Listener's Question from Chika. Actually two questions on whether grief writing can be seen as exploitative and whether personal grief twins with environmental mourning in poems. I aim to address my perspective on this complexity in 10 minutes, drawing on the origins of elegy, elegiac poets, current quotes from Natasha Tretheway on grief and art and the communal fusions of modes of mourning. I love these challenges!
Nov 10, 202111:25
Episode 7: He by John Ashbery

Episode 7: He by John Ashbery

Maja's Listener's Choice poem! By one of my most obsessed over poets ever. Thus I bumble about telling you how and why Ashbery couldn't tell you. But o the anaphora! What identity Majesties!!
Nov 09, 202111:47
Episode 6: Seamus Heaney's St Kevin and the Blackbird.

Episode 6: Seamus Heaney's St Kevin and the Blackbird.

A Listener's Choice poem from the wondrous Chika. It's ekphrastic. It's spiritual. It can even recall an episode of Family Guy. It's a poem you won't soon forget.
Nov 08, 202108:37
Episode 4: Listener's Question from Maja on Poetry as a Substance and Altered State.

Episode 4: Listener's Question from Maja on Poetry as a Substance and Altered State.

In which I ramble pointedly for awhile in attempts to address Maja's query - "is poetry a substance that creates altered states? Do you use substances to create poetry?" Rimbaud appears, Coleridge, Berryman, Stevens and the theorist Viktor Schklovsky. And the muse. Of course.
Nov 05, 202108:60
Episode 4: The Road Not Taken by Robert Frost. A Listener's Choice from my father, Gerald Owen.

Episode 4: The Road Not Taken by Robert Frost. A Listener's Choice from my father, Gerald Owen.

In which he recites it, I talk likely at far too great a length about its ambiguities and then I read it too. And append a note after about both our minor errors. And the beauty of the poem, regardless.
Nov 04, 202107:49
Episode 3: Walter de la Mare's Silver. My mother's Listener's Choice poem.

Episode 3: Walter de la Mare's Silver. My mother's Listener's Choice poem.

I read the title, Mum recites from mostly memory, then I talk about this mysterious piece and read it again. Repetition. The core of the spell.
Nov 03, 202104:52
Episode 2: In which I interview my parents about poetry and life.

Episode 2: In which I interview my parents about poetry and life.

This rare episode features Madeleine and Gerald Owen, my parents, from their livingroom in Burnaby BC. We chat randomly about poetry, their childhoods, being culture vultures, our familial diversities, puns, music, translation, and the importance of it all. Made with love. And a lot of laughter.
Nov 02, 202132:14
Season Three: Episode 1. A summation of Season Two.

Season Three: Episode 1. A summation of Season Two.

This is a test. This is only a test. Season three will actually start in a week but this is a recap of Season Two for starters and a dream poem of mine for kicks. Talk to you soon, word musicians!
Oct 26, 202104:50
Episode 27: Instagram 'poetry'. A listener's question. The end of Season 2.

Episode 27: Instagram 'poetry'. A listener's question. The end of Season 2.

Herewith the close of a shorter season two because hey such is life and it's my podcast so I can do what I want ;) I conclude with a punchy listener's question from Hollay Ghadery on what is up with Insta poems and the genre and practice? In 6 parts I answer this (or not) with research and personal opinion based on a whack of years of thinking and creating. Enjoy the rants. And then form your own thoughts. Read!! I shall return poetry outlaws!!!
Sep 13, 202114:47
Episode 26: Jobs for Poets and Jenna Butler's Keswick

Episode 26: Jobs for Poets and Jenna Butler's Keswick

Chapter 11 (the last chapter) of the Other 23 on all the ways a poet can hold weird and wonderful free-range (or at least different from ONLY teaching in the university system) jobs. Jenna has a farm! And writes delectable poems too. Explore! See what's out there poetry outlaws!!
Sep 09, 202107:19
Episode 25: Travel and PM Pilarski's The Lizards Hold Court at Delos.

Episode 25: Travel and PM Pilarski's The Lizards Hold Court at Delos.

Chapter 10 of the Other 23 on that thing we are missing these days: travel and outward adventuring. How does it assist the process of poetry? O in so many ways. Ask those Grecian beasts.
Sep 08, 202105:37
Episode 24: Collaboration and Ars Poetica with Rachel Rose

Episode 24: Collaboration and Ars Poetica with Rachel Rose

Chapter 9 of the Other 23 and a half hours where I talk about the fun and essential act of collaborating with other artists to create dances, books, librettos and other beautiful things. And recite Rachel Rose's anaphoric Ars Poetica. Expand your horizons. Make stuff with others!
Sep 07, 202105:23
Episode 23: Mixing Mediums and Paul Vermeersch's Bad at Flowers

Episode 23: Mixing Mediums and Paul Vermeersch's Bad at Flowers

Chapter 8 of the Other 23 where I talk about the value of painting, dancing, taking photos and playing music for a poet, invoking the words of Joe Rosenblatt and Paul Vermeersch, then reading his vivid and funny poem, Bad at Flowers. Go on. Play with art. Discover what else your poetic sensibilities can create. And happy Friday!
Sep 03, 202106:04
Episode 22: Small Presses and John Pass's Sparrows

Episode 22: Small Presses and John Pass's Sparrows

Chapter 7 of the Other 23 where we talk the ins and outs, types and kinds, whys and wherefores of running small presses and printing chapbooks. With John Pass to assist. And his lovely poem, Sparrows.
Sep 02, 202106:26
Episode 21: Radio and Reading Series and Yvonne Blomer's Northern Solstice.

Episode 21: Radio and Reading Series and Yvonne Blomer's Northern Solstice.

Hey it's September and this is Chapter 6 of The Other 23 on hosting radio shows and running reading events as a poet. I chat about university radio, the orality of the art, organizing a poetry series, encouraging a diversity of media and end with Yvonne's series Planet Earth and a planetary poem.
Sep 01, 202107:46
Episode 20: Translation and Steve Noyes' All that was Desired

Episode 20: Translation and Steve Noyes' All that was Desired

There's a fountain. Me turning pages. And talking about translation, mostly drawing upon Steve Noyes' multi-lingual experience, then reading one of his lusciously disruptive poems. Yes it's Chapter 5 of the Other 23 and the last day of August.
Aug 31, 202105:45
Episode 19: Reviews and M Travis Lane's Print

Episode 19: Reviews and M Travis Lane's Print

Chapter 4 of the Other 23 and I'm outside with the fountain again chatting about the importance of reviews and criticism. The real stuff. Lane knows about this. I read her poem Print too. And it's a beautiful thing.
Aug 30, 202106:31
Episode 18: Research and Even the Brilliant Chimpanzees by Patricia Young

Episode 18: Research and Even the Brilliant Chimpanzees by Patricia Young

I'm outside, the fountain is spilling into words and I talk the muse and transcendental nature of research. Chapter 3 of the Other 23 and a half Hours. Then Patricia chats about her process through quotations and I read one of her wondrous simian poems.
Aug 27, 202105:39
Episode 17: Memorization and Susan McCaslin's Corona Corona

Episode 17: Memorization and Susan McCaslin's Corona Corona

Chapter 2 of The Other 23 and a half hours in which I discuss the act of memorization of poems, out of fashion but essential. It doesn't have to be your own. Take the sounds of others within you. They will be there in the dentist's chair then, while on a walk, when traveling. I talk about reciting Jeffers in Cuba. And mostly about my former teacher Susan and read her wonderful mini-corona. Poetry. It's an oral art form first.
Aug 26, 202107:11
Episode 16: Performance and Catherine Graham's The Red Element.

Episode 16: Performance and Catherine Graham's The Red Element.

Part 3 of Chapter 1 in the Other 23 and Half Hours collection in which I discuss the value performing has to poetry, whether at a single reading or on tour. Graham also contributes with her wise approach and her ability to memorize. It's WEDNESDAY!
Aug 25, 202104:27
Episode 15: Revision and Hail by Adam Dickinson

Episode 15: Revision and Hail by Adam Dickinson

Part 2 of Chapter 1 in The other 23 and a Half Hours where I chat about the importance of the ear in making changes to a poem, some thoughts about editorial ideology and then recite the tight sonority of a Dickinson piece. Don't be afraid.
Aug 24, 202105:31
Episode 14: Reading from the Other 23 and a Half Hours and a Steve Heighton poem.

Episode 14: Reading from the Other 23 and a Half Hours and a Steve Heighton poem.

This episode begins a 12 or so part series on the sections in my collection The other 23 and a Half Hours or Everything you wanted to know that your MFA didn't teach you (Wolsak & Wynn, 2015). I introduce it, talk about the first part on Reading and feature a poem by Steven Heighton called The Last Reader. Outlaw, there are many paths to poems.
Aug 23, 202107:52
Episode 14: Chris Hutchinson interview and the poem Another Trip to the Undersea Kingdom

Episode 14: Chris Hutchinson interview and the poem Another Trip to the Undersea Kingdom

I chat with Chris in my front yard about renegade sonnets, reckless Can lit behavior, the past in Vancouver and Canada's poetry scene (resonating with the Past Lane homage!), selling art on the streets and the ache for crowds again. Thanks for the engaging ramble! And the listening hibiscus relished it too :)
Aug 20, 202130:20
Episode 13: Patrick Lane Homage

Episode 13: Patrick Lane Homage

Part off the cuff and part read from a little memoir of the days I knew Pat Lane (1939-2019), this is the Season 2 homage episode to a renowned Canadian poet I once had the fortune to work with. I also read The Far Field, a poem from his 1991 book Mortal Remains. And excuse myself first for trying to recall too many titles from memory. Ahhhhh memories. Enjoy this renegade!
Aug 19, 202112:07
Episode 12: Philip Levine's They Feed They Lion

Episode 12: Philip Levine's They Feed They Lion

A master of anaphora and refrain, listen to Levine speak about the origins of this sonorous political poem and then its recitation. The final piece from the Jorie Graham anthology Earth Took of Earth (1994). And it's a sunny Wednesday.
Aug 18, 202107:28
Episode 11: Frank O Hara and The Day Lady Died

Episode 11: Frank O Hara and The Day Lady Died

A famous piece from Mr Lunch Poems in the Graham anthology. O Hara's compositional style might seem easy to mimic but it isn't. Unlike most Instagram word machines! In remembrance of Billie Holiday.
Aug 17, 202104:40
Episode 10: Donald Justice and Poem

Episode 10: Donald Justice and Poem

It's not addressed to you, this poem. But listen to it anyway! Mr Justice from the Graham anthology. We have a few more from there this week and then, onwards to an homage! Happy rainy Monday.
Aug 16, 202107:56
Episode 9: Richard Hugo and the Freaks at Spurgin Road Field

Episode 9: Richard Hugo and the Freaks at Spurgin Road Field

It's Friday the 13th! I speak of the relentless insufficiencies and inevitable ineffabilities of trying to articulate any good poem. Then read a piece about supposed freaks from the Graham anthology. Seems about right.
Aug 13, 202107:58
Episode 8: Denise Levertov's The Wings

Episode 8: Denise Levertov's The Wings

I start with a Graham quote about the prevalence of water in her anthology selections then discuss and read a piece on wings and a woman's self identity. Enjoy!
Aug 12, 202106:23
Episode 7: James Dickey's At Darien Bridge.

Episode 7: James Dickey's At Darien Bridge.

Chain gangs? Ghosts? A watery feeling? Is it Wednesday??? Dickey was a tough guy but he wrote some moving poems. Like this one, from the Graham anthology Earth took of Earth. And happy dead birthday Frank who died in 03 at 28.
Aug 11, 202105:02
Episode 6: John Berryman Dream Song #29.

Episode 6: John Berryman Dream Song #29.

O that Henry! We are back to the Graham anthology with Berryman's most enduring and creepy persona poem. Also it's haunting. We all have our own Henrys. Mine's a ravenous squirrel!
Aug 10, 202105:52
Episode 5: William Stafford's Traveling through the Dark

Episode 5: William Stafford's Traveling through the Dark

This is a Listener's choice poem requested by Andrew Boden. One of my early faves too. Life, it brings so many challenging decisions. Even in my interpretations, I stumble. Happy Monday!
Aug 09, 202109:48
Episode 4:ee cummings and Somewhere I Have Never Traveled Gladly Beyond.

Episode 4:ee cummings and Somewhere I Have Never Traveled Gladly Beyond.

How about some good old weird cummings today in his love mode. One apparently not comprehensible by some students! I also talk of the obvious ineffabilities within poetic articulation and read more bits of Graham's anthology intro from which this piece comes. If only YOUR partner was this romantic....right?
Aug 06, 202107:10
Episode 3: #510 by Emily Dickinson.

Episode 3: #510 by Emily Dickinson.

Another gorgeous poem from the Graham anthology in which Ms Emily defines death while remaining elusive. She never fails to stun. Like my mother. Whose birthday it is!
Aug 05, 202106:07
Episode 2: Navajo Indian Chant (1794)

Episode 2: Navajo Indian Chant (1794)

The first piece I'll be reading from the Jorie Graham anthology Earth Took of Earth (1996). An oral dance of seasonal rhythm. Recited amid occasional beeps of construction. Shall I pick it up? Shall you?
Aug 04, 202104:57
Season Two, Episode One: Inabilities to Concentrate in Things that Make me Go Grrrrr.

Season Two, Episode One: Inabilities to Concentrate in Things that Make me Go Grrrrr.

Welcome back to my awkward lil podcast of fiercely poetic things! Starting this season with a new random series on aspects of the art world that irk and how this connects to what poets require to make poems. It all began with a Van Gogh exhibit..... enjoy!
Aug 03, 202106:53
Episode 80: A Wrap of Season One and The Metal Nest.

Episode 80: A Wrap of Season One and The Metal Nest.

It's the final and eightieth episode of Season One that I recorded between March and June of 2021. Here we have a summation of the past 79 episodes, a looking forward to things I might do with Season Two when it gets going again in August and one of my recent poems in notebook form, The Metal Nest, read to do homage to the tenacity of sparrows, an endurance we have all needed this year. See you next season Poetry Outlaws and Word Musicians :)
Jun 26, 202105:29
Episode 79: Dennis Lee and On Tuesdays I Polish my Uncle.

Episode 79: Dennis Lee and On Tuesdays I Polish my Uncle.

Ok I say it's the final episode of Season One but I AM doing an episode 80 tomorrow with a wrap up, a look ahead and a recent poem of mine! This however is the last Dennis Lee piece for now! Such rollicking tongue fun :) And it's a hot Friday.
Jun 25, 202103:33
Episode 78: If you should meet by Dennis Lee

Episode 78: If you should meet by Dennis Lee

Another funny serious poem from Alligator Pie (1974) that tells you how to console nonsensical (or real?) monsters. Happy birthday to Dante who also loves words.
Jun 24, 202102:59
Episode 77: Dennis Lee and two poems.

Episode 77: Dennis Lee and two poems.

Another children's author three parter where I talk about my love for Dennis Lee's work, especially in Alligator Pie and the early books from the 70s, meeting him as an adult and the way things have become more sadly PC. Then I recite from memory Suzy Grew a Moustache and from the text, In Kamloops. A poem from which I learned Canadian geography. It's Wednesday! And sunny.
Jun 23, 202104:32
Episode 76: A LIVE conversation with Paul Pearson!

Episode 76: A LIVE conversation with Paul Pearson!

During my back yard summer series of the 94th street Trobairitz event, local Edmontonian poet Paul Pearson reads his piece Man Ray and the Jewels of Opar and we chat (and laugh. And death-heckle) about the duty to inclusiveness, multiplicities of voice, Pat Lane, how to make a living as a poet (hint. Be rob mclennan ;), the Olive series, growing up in the backwoods and why he doesn't like punctuation or capital letters. All to the accompaniment of birds, beeping construction trucks and the clappings and hootings of the 14 people in attendance. Such fun! It's a beautiful thing.
Jun 22, 202119:57
Episode 75: They put a brassiere on the camel by Shel Silverstein.

Episode 75: They put a brassiere on the camel by Shel Silverstein.

The last of three Silverstein pieces. It's a little subversive. Our world. So confusedly PC and full of cancellations without context. Alas. Happy Monday! It's the final full week of Season One of the podcast pre my July getaway!!
Jun 21, 202103:20
Episode 74: Shel Silverstein and Hippos Hope.

Episode 74: Shel Silverstein and Hippos Hope.

Let's start Friday all hyper-like with a fun sound poem by Shel that gives us options and choices for our actions and decisions in life! I'm gonna fly, myself.
Jun 18, 202103:51
Episode 73: Shel Silverstein and Backwards Bill.

Episode 73: Shel Silverstein and Backwards Bill.

The first of three poems I'm reading from the American kids' versifier Shel Silverstein. It's Backwards Bill who acts like the world does today! With a chat about the importance of the imagination and rhyme. And a bonus poem about wavy hair!
Jun 17, 202104:37
Episode 72: Alice Major: a conversation!

Episode 72: Alice Major: a conversation!

Today I have a blast in my bird-full garden chatting with the eminent and enjoyable Edmontonian poet Alice Major. She reads a haibun about astronomy, we chat scientific lexicons, the poetry fest, the League of Canadian poets, memory, the importance of community and the validity of being kind. The magpies concur! Join us. It's fun...and educational!
Jun 16, 202140:46
Episode 71: PK Page. An homage with T-bar and The Castle.

Episode 71: PK Page. An homage with T-bar and The Castle.

Today I remember PK Page (1916-2010) whom I met several times in the 90s. I talk her bio, influence, graciousness, her ear, then amid lulling tune interludes I recite one of her famous pieces T-bar from the 50s and a later one, a villanelle, The Castle. Thanks stunning being of language and grace.
Jun 15, 202110:56
Episode 70: Karen Moe's question: Poetry and Revolution?

Episode 70: Karen Moe's question: Poetry and Revolution?

The creator of Vigilance magazine, among many other revolutionary acts, and a long-term art compatriot of mine, Ms Moe asks me what poetry has to do with revolution! Apart from reading the segment from Stephen Spender, I stutter totally off the cuff, in the windy yard, for 10 minutes worth of pondering how revolution does and may not happen through the most lyrical form of language. To thinking!!! Happy Monday.
Jun 14, 202111:23
Episode 69: WS Merwin and For the Anniversary of my Death.

Episode 69: WS Merwin and For the Anniversary of my Death.

The last poem I'm reading from the Milosz anthology The Book of Luminous Things and from the section on Non-Attachment. Merwin is often stunning in his evocation of concepts one may not ever have thought of before. Like death anniversaries. Hey it's Friday. And sunny finally. Enjoy!
Jun 11, 202107:29
Episode 68: Sharon Olds and I go back to May 1937.

Episode 68: Sharon Olds and I go back to May 1937.

From the People with People part of the Milosz anthology, recorded on a May day of snow is Olds' piece about her parents and the continuity of generations. It's a bit of a longer one. Enjoy! And yes the snow is long gone in June.
Jun 10, 202108:49
Episode 67: Louis Simpson and After Midnight

Episode 67: Louis Simpson and After Midnight

From the Place section in the Milosz anthology, a defamiliarized piece about an American street at night. Moody. Like the sky today.
Jun 09, 202105:18
Episode 66: John Haines and The Train Stops at Healey Fork.

Episode 66: John Haines and The Train Stops at Healey Fork.

The Travel section of the Milosz anthology and a piece about the ghosts of the iron horse by Mr Haines. We will leave our homes again soon. Even if it's raining.
Jun 08, 202107:41
Episode 65: William Carlos Williams and his Red Wheelbarrow.

Episode 65: William Carlos Williams and his Red Wheelbarrow.

The secret of a thing section in the Milosz anthology of luminousness and the much discussed Imagist poem The Red Wheelbarrow by DR WCW. The white chickens are everything. Have a jolly Monday.
Jun 07, 202106:14
Episode 64: Robert Frost and The Most of It.

Episode 64: Robert Frost and The Most of It.

It's Friday but I'm still in the nature section of the Milosz anthology. And with Frost crashing through the underbrush. Nature ain't easy.
Jun 04, 202105:57
Episode 63: Emily Dickinson and poem number 1026.

Episode 63: Emily Dickinson and poem number 1026.

Which is a Narrow Fellow in the Grass, her amazing poem about a snake encounter from the Milosz anthology of Luminous Things and the Nature section. Hear the cat purr.
Jun 03, 202105:34
Episode 62: Galway Kinnell and Daybreak.

Episode 62: Galway Kinnell and Daybreak.

A poem from the Nature section of the Milosz anthology where he celebrates luminous things. Here I stutter (over-coffeed?) a bit through a discussion of Kinnell's beautiful extended metaphor about starfish and stars. Sip sip sip.
Jun 02, 202104:36
Episode 61: Czeslaw Milosz anthology poems. Robinson Jeffers' Carmel Point.

Episode 61: Czeslaw Milosz anthology poems. Robinson Jeffers' Carmel Point.

In which I begin the reading of a selection of 9 short poems from the 1996 Milosz anthology, The Book of Luminous Things. He was a great poet. He has fairly magnificent taste. This first section is called Epiphany and hey who can't resist another Jeffers poem about Inhumanism and beauty. Happy June.
Jun 01, 202107:37
Episode 60: Listener's Choice poem: Girl Dreams by Nancy Jo Cullen.

Episode 60: Listener's Choice poem: Girl Dreams by Nancy Jo Cullen.

From her 2002 collection Science Fiction Saint comes Nancy Jo Cullen and her 2 page piece Girl Dreams on binaries and the patriarchy and some guy called Dennis. Requested by the amazing Leslie Greentree! I ramble on but end up saying a few worthwhile tidbits here and there. It's the last day of May :)
May 31, 202113:08
Episode 59: WB Yeats' The Second Coming

Episode 59: WB Yeats' The Second Coming

A delightful final classic from Yeats to conclude the We Animals anthology offerings and the Fantasy section. Do we feel this way these days...an ominous approach? Or is it joyous? Either way, Happy Friday.
May 28, 202106:53
Episode 58: Elizabeth Bishop's The Man Moth.

Episode 58: Elizabeth Bishop's The Man Moth.

The first of two final pieces from the We Animals anthology and from the Fantasy section. I manage to ramble on a lot about Bishop's magical and strange piece. Have a creepy Thursday!
May 27, 202109:50
Episode 57: Wallace Stevens Less and Less Human O Savage Spirit.

Episode 57: Wallace Stevens Less and Less Human O Savage Spirit.

From the Communion section in the We Animals anthology. Stevens...was he a savage spirit? A curmudgeon farmer? Or just a brilliant creator of memorable lines that speak to our connections and divisions within nature.
May 26, 202107:07
Episode 56: James Wright and Two Horses Playing in the Orchard.

Episode 56: James Wright and Two Horses Playing in the Orchard.

From We Animals. Another from the Fraternity section. Horses. Apples. A sense of kinship. My cat Solstice appears. It's the beginning of another week.
May 25, 202104:58
Episode 55: Robinson Jeffers Animals.

Episode 55: Robinson Jeffers Animals.

Get a little Fraternity into your Friday with another poem from the We Animals anthology called Animals by one of my deep and abiding faves, the Californian poet Robinson Jeffers who died in 62. Listen to his inhuman majesties!
May 21, 202105:15
Episode 54: Robert Frost's To Do this to Bird's Song was Why she Came.

Episode 54: Robert Frost's To Do this to Bird's Song was Why she Came.

Another piece from We Animals by the curmudgeon farmer Robert Frost and his poem about a woman and love and yes Dominion. Is it creepy? It may be! And there are real birds in it!
May 20, 202104:50
Episode 53: John Hollander's Adam's Task.

Episode 53: John Hollander's Adam's Task.

The second piece from the We Animals anthology and from the section called Dominion. It's the fun serious auralities of John Hollander's Adam's Task. And it actually snowed yesterday. I can't hear any birds. My dominion over the garden has ceased for now.
May 19, 202107:45
Episode 52: Wendell Berry's The Peace of Wild Things

Episode 52: Wendell Berry's The Peace of Wild Things

A new set of poems from the 1989 anthology ed by Nadya Eisenberg called We Animals: Poems of our World. This Berry piece comes from the first section on reverence. A great way to start your day!
May 18, 202105:59
Episode 51: An interview with Kelly Shepherd, parts one & two.

Episode 51: An interview with Kelly Shepherd, parts one & two.

Kelly, Edmontonian poet, reads Self Portrait in Fur on my sunny, squirrel and bird frequented patio and we talk a jam packed 40 minutes about environmental poetry, our distaste for certain poetic modes like slam; I mention my loathing for the contrived nature of Mary Oliver and the absurdity of prizes based on relatively bad dead poets. We also talk "career" trajectory in poetry land, chapbooks and the necessity of honouring those poets who have stuck to creating over an extensive period of time. There are some chair creaks and I say YOU KNOW too much but hey this is all a learning process and it's VERY VERY real! Even my cackling ;) Enjoy releasing your conditioning!!
May 17, 202139:59
Episode 50: Syllabics and Daniel David Moses The Hands

Episode 50: Syllabics and Daniel David Moses The Hands

It's Ms Lyric's 50th episode!! In which I fumble through a chat about syllabics. You see I adore rhythm but am awful with numbers! At any rate a fascinating poem and thanks to the editors of the In Fine Form anthology, second edition! Have a jolly Friday :)
May 14, 202104:31
Episode 49: The Stanza and Earle Birney's From the Hazel Bough.

Episode 49: The Stanza and Earle Birney's From the Hazel Bough.

The second to last form from the In Fine Form anthology that also constructs forms and is, in quite a few senses, the essence of a poem, how the line breaks. I'm interrupted by a phone call but mostly keep my train of thought to read Birney's delightful quatrains in his poem about a lost era.
May 13, 202105:59
Episode 48: The Palindrome and Pam Galloway's Remembering Autumn.

Episode 48: The Palindrome and Pam Galloway's Remembering Autumn.

Another form from the In Fine Form anthology, 2nd Ed. The Palindrome is how one feels on Wednesday, as if one's week could be read backwards or forwards. Nice to feature something from Pam who I've known since I was a teen at the Burnaby Writers Society. Relish the discombobulation!
May 12, 202105:23
Episode 47: The epigram and Margaret Atwood's You Fit into Me.

Episode 47: The epigram and Margaret Atwood's You Fit into Me.

The In Fine Form anthology, Second Ed and the Epigram. Short but packed with meaning! Atwood knows how to sucker punch no doubt. I remember the month today and finish the podcast before my partner arrives, chatting on his phone. Yay birds!
May 11, 202105:22
Episode 46: The Blues and Maureen Hynes Self-Sufficient Blues.

Episode 46: The Blues and Maureen Hynes Self-Sufficient Blues.

I say it's April but it's May! I also say that the In Fine Form anthology, second and expanded edition came out in 2015 but it was 2016! Apart from that I think I discuss the Blues form with relatively few errors haha and the Hynes poem is a spectacularly modern feminist version of this essential form. It's Monday! Write your own Blues poem :)
May 10, 202106:08
Episode 45: Listener's Question: What makes a poem good?

Episode 45: Listener's Question: What makes a poem good?

A new occasional series in which I aim to offer a few modes of answer to a particular question about poetry. Here I draw on William Carlos Williams famous couplet In a Station of the Metro to discuss the auralities and textures and efforts of a "good" poem. For the highschool teacher Katherine Autio! Who, I hope, is having a Happy Friday.
May 07, 202108:44
Episode 44: Al Purdy - An Homage and Reading of Two Poems.

Episode 44: Al Purdy - An Homage and Reading of Two Poems.

In which I talk about Al Purdy (1918-2000), his place in Canlit and my personal encounters with him in the 90s, and the creation of the infamous Purdy podium by my father, Gerald. I also read some teensy lyrics I like of his: Winter at Roblin Lake from Cariboo Horses and Depression in Namu, BC from Sex and Death. Big Al: never to be forgotten.
May 06, 202111:05
Episode 43: An interview with Diane Tucker, Parts 1 and 2.

Episode 43: An interview with Diane Tucker, Parts 1 and 2.

Actually these are more like conversations, this one at the Earl's patio on Robson in Vancouver in rainy April during another plague semi-lockdown. She reads the poem "A dream of old Vancouver" and we laugh a lot about our reveries of former glory, talk history, form, Hopkins and I call Di Brandt a "beeyatch" as an editor ;) Read poems Diane says! And relish the madness of poetic chatter too (amid pop soundtracks and the server asking about Happy Hour!)
May 05, 202124:46
Episode 42: Listener's Choice with Shane Book's They are not Bits of Clockwork.
May 04, 202107:32
Episode 41: The Villanelle and Eli Mandel's City Park Merry-Go-Round.

Episode 41: The Villanelle and Eli Mandel's City Park Merry-Go-Round.

The birds and I bid you a jolly Monday with this Italian form of recurrences from the 2005 In Fine Form anthology, the last poem I'm reading from this edition. The Villanelle, a promising start to any week.
May 03, 202105:08
Episode 40: The sonnet and George Johnson's Cathleen Sweeping.

Episode 40: The sonnet and George Johnson's Cathleen Sweeping.

Friday's form, the famed sonnet, from the first ed of the In Fine Form anthology, in both Petrarchan and Shakespearean mode in discussion, with a nod to my sonnet collaborations in DOG with Joe Rosenblatt (also chatted about in the Poet on the Road series). And a movingly sweet sonnet about a young girl and her male caregiver who is attached and resists and yields to pure love. I recorded this last week so while it's still sunny, the temperature drop has already happened! The squirrel still hangs out.
Apr 30, 202106:03
Episode 39: The Triolet and Elise Partridge's Vuillard Interior.

Episode 39: The Triolet and Elise Partridge's Vuillard Interior.

A 4th form poem, French again, from the first ed of the In Fine Form anthology. And Vuillard Interior from Elise Partridge (RIP), whom I met a few times in Vancouver at varied poetry events and she was always as warm and poised as this triolet.
Apr 29, 202104:31
Episode 38: The roundelay and Down by Mark Abley.

Episode 38: The roundelay and Down by Mark Abley.

Form the third from In Fine Form, ed 1. More French stuff but keeping it on the easier side, repetition-wise. Still, tragic. Enjoy your java!
Apr 28, 202106:12
Episode 37: The pantoum and Richard Sanger's Lines in the Sand.

Episode 37: The pantoum and Richard Sanger's Lines in the Sand.

Form the second from the In Fine Form anthology, ed 1, the convoluted yet simple French pantoum. Explaining forms isn't easy! This poem is strangely haunting.
Apr 27, 202104:45
Episode 36: The In Fine Form anthology, first ed 2005, and the ghazal.

Episode 36: The In Fine Form anthology, first ed 2005, and the ghazal.

The new series on the two Canadian In Fine Form anthologies begins (edited by Kate Braid and Sandy Shreve) with one of my fave forms (also addressed in the Poet on the Road podcasts relating to Shall and Frenzy) the ancient Persian ghazal and its contemporary North American version. I call Canadian poet John Thompson the "gateway drug" to the ghazal and recite his ghazal 9 after talking through this fascinating form. Happy Monday!
Apr 26, 202106:15
Episode 35: George Macbeth's Owl

Episode 35: George Macbeth's Owl

The last poem from A. Alvarez and his 1962 The New Poetry Anthology. A lesser known poet now. Who who who is he?? But seriously Happy Friday.
Apr 23, 202105:03
Episode 34: Geoffrey Hill's In Piam Memoriam

Episode 34: Geoffrey Hill's In Piam Memoriam

Second to last piece from the A Alvarez anthology in which I talk against accessibility and ramble forthwith into Hill's form and imagery before reciting the 3 part poem. And it is snowing. Again.
Apr 22, 202107:49
Episode 33: Jon Silkin's Dandelion

Episode 33: Jon Silkin's Dandelion

Ok 3 more poems "this week" from the A Alvarez anthology I say as if it were Monday but it's Wednesday! Also for these last 3 pieces, and perhaps into the future, I am discussing the poem first then just reciting it once. And today I'm dealing with a lesser known poet (because hey MOST of us are) Jon Silkin with his paean/curse to my fave flower. Go Dandelion go!!
Apr 21, 202105:60
Episode 32: Thom Gunn's The Feel of Hands.

Episode 32: Thom Gunn's The Feel of Hands.

A further A Alvarez offering, the wonderful poet Thom Gunn and his poem that could literally touch on the difficult beauties of being a gay man in the 50s. Find some of his books. You won't be disappointed.
Apr 20, 202106:09
Episode 31: John Wain's The Bad Thing.

Episode 31: John Wain's The Bad Thing.

Another A Alvarez pick, this time of a now lesser known poet, and his piece about dealing with your depressions. After the first 2 minutes my phone buzzes. I vanish only to return. Phone calls in the middle of podcasts are sort of bad things, but we deal. Happy Monday!
Apr 19, 202108:18
Episode 30: Philip Larkin and his poem Wants.

Episode 30: Philip Larkin and his poem Wants.

Poem the third from the A Alvarez anthology for your dour Friday ;) Philip Larkin, famed curmudgeon librarian, and his piece "Wants" which tells it like it really is. Drink up that java!
Apr 16, 202106:58
Episode 29: Anne Sexton's Old.

Episode 29: Anne Sexton's Old.

Poem 2 from the A Alvarez anthology is the complex angst of Sexton and her poem about being an age she never arrived at. I think we're all feeling nostalgic these days for the berry time in Damariscotta.
Apr 15, 202107:23
Episode 28: A Alvarez The New Poetry Anthology and John Berryman.

Episode 28: A Alvarez The New Poetry Anthology and John Berryman.

In which I introduce the 1962 anthology from which I will recite over the next 8 episodes and read and discuss John Berryman's The Song of the Tortured Girl. A jolly way to start your day!!
Apr 14, 202108:58
Episode 27: An homage to Anne Marriott and the poem Prairie Graveyard.

Episode 27: An homage to Anne Marriott and the poem Prairie Graveyard.

The second homage in my series in which I talk about a poet, now deceased, whom I actually encountered, however briefly. And mention the fickleness of fame. The torture of only being able to say NO. And recite what remains.
Apr 13, 202106:41
Episode 26: An interview with Heidi Greco.

Episode 26: An interview with Heidi Greco.

Who recites her poem "Standing in Heaven with Marilyn Monroe," and answers my three unique questions and two standard ones: talking feelings, craft, BC's Poetry in Transit program, film, and making poetry happen everywhere. She's an old friend. We laugh a lot and someone tries to give me their number in the middle of the interview. It unfolds at St Augustine's on Commercial Drive. So there are trains. Enjoy!
Apr 12, 202119:15
Episode 25: Riven and the poem Beseech

Episode 25: Riven and the poem Beseech

The final date of our Poet on the Road tour in which I discuss grief and nature in my book of elegies and aubades that came out in the ill-fated year of 2020 from ECW. And recite Beseech, a poem about the Fraser River. That's it. I'm done with me and what I've done.
Apr 09, 202104:21
Episode 24: My 9th poetry book Dear Ghost (2017) and the poem Washing.

Episode 24: My 9th poetry book Dear Ghost (2017) and the poem Washing.

Day 9 of Poet on the Road and my most recent Wolsak & Wynn/Buckrider collection, rife with childhood memories, weird stuff and homages to the American poet John Ashbery. I also read a bit of tour journal lore and mention renovating my endings. Join me! I'v