
Contain Podcast
By Contain
Explorations in post-culture. Music from the show on SoundCloud.

Contain PodcastDec 05, 2022
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*PREVIEW* 171. May Contain Nuts: The First Four Years w/ bod [包家巷]
The project turned four for so bod [包家巷] proposed we do a rundown of every single episode of from 1 until 170 and "react" to each one - the good, the bad, the ugly - every single phase from this nebulous, undefined sociology project. Afterthoughts on what worked and what didn't work, who to trust, where things are headed, and more. From cult leaders to Soundcloud rappers to transhumanists and 21st c. philosophers-after 4 long years I have finally found out what this show is about.
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169. *Preview* The Future's Not What It Used To Be: Googie, Space Colonies, & The End of Criticism Pt. 1
3 hr 7 m dive into one of the 20th centuries most radical, transformative yet commercial art movements: Coffee Shop Modernism. Maligned by critics, yet beloved by the public - what did the architects of 'Googie' understand that we do not? Also the art of NASA space colonies (current MoMa exhibit), Bob's Big Boy, Monsanto/MIT/and Disney's House of The Future (1957), Armet and Davis, Swedenborgian New Church, the Theme Building at LAX + Philip Taylor Kramer's Unsolved Mystery, Richard Hamilton: Collage and Technology, Cars, The History of McDonalds, Art, Architecture, and the environmental crisis of the 60's / 70's, The intersection of technology, family, freedom, and America, the history and funding of high-brow art and architecture: who was paying these people?, Panns Fried Chicken, Walter Gropius, "Those were the days of struggling for something exciting and neon was rather new. We had neon everywhere,"...everyone has already achieved their 15 minutes of fame, the zeitgeist of places, R. Buckminster Fuller, how criticism got cucked, and more.
Video documentary and part two (McDonalds History) coming this month. Music by Barrett / Alex T., ending song by Mickey Newbury...skip introduction: start at 18 m

170. *Preview* Astral America: Baudrillard's America, Folklore, and the Murder of the Real - Zoyd Wheeler
Episode with teacher/all-around smart guy Zoyd Wheeler on the continued relevance of Baudrillard's funniest book America as well as his essays Pataphysics of the Year 2000 and Murder of the Real-tying it into the resurgence of folklore, fake aliens, funk brasilero, Halloween, and desert-horizontal.

168. A.I Mega Episode - Max (Reality Gamer) *Unlocked*
Comprehensive history of AI episode w/ Max Foley (Reality Gamer) (Harmless AI / Anti-Yudkowski)
Original release 8/28/23
the stupidity of E/ACC, RAND corporation 4.0, Van Neumann / Robert Oppenheimer, Game Theory, Corporate Surrealism, Andy Warhol: Cyborg, AI Alignment scam, Bayesian probability, Roger Bacon's Brazen Head, “There is no natural religion”, #BRG, scientific realism, and more...

PREVIEW: 167. History of Leisure Pt. 2 - Stonehenge Free, Expo 70', and the Rebirth of the American Dream
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4.5 hour sequel of A History of Leisure and Free Time focusing on lesser known movements, innovations, and countercultural operations of the 20th century - a consummate historical excursion into how we can redeem the Realm of Freedom in the 21st Century.
Robert Rauschenberg's Captiva Island getaway in post 68', Bell Laboratories, Experiments in Art and Technology, and Expo 70' in Osaka, Robert Maynard Hutchin's Civilizations of the Dialogue, Book Clubs, Feminism and the 6 hour work day, The UK Free Festival Circuit: Ritual Madness at Stonehenge ft. Ozric Tentacles, Utopian Communities during the Great Depression, how labor unions turned into "a carbon copy of capitalism", Taft-Hartley act, Frank Lloyd Wright pt. 2, FDR and the spiritualization of work...

166. A History of Leisure, Free Time, (and Nothing Else) - Part 1.
Part 2 is up now on Patreon

165 - I Love Everything About Nothing - @givingdirt *unlocked*
Rare first interview-mysterious southwest collage legend givingdirt explains the process behind his craft...set design for the imagination, Margaret Mead's Sex and Temperament: Three Primitive Societies, Hawaii, Mark Twain, National Geographic, rejecting art shows, anthropology, saguaro fetish, the desert, bestdancerliljontooreal, landscape architecture, I Need Fragile Things Around Me To Be Strong For. This was very inspiring.

*PREVIEW* 164. - Evolutionary Coolness - Stephanie LaCava

163. - Korean Military Vacation -@iankumming @audiogothh
Military veterans Levy and Jae come on for a special report on their time in the South Korean Army.
'The Army is the best way to find out who you are in this world' 'The Army is one of the last vacations a man can have'
대한민국 육군
Music from Extra Small - Nepotism Child

Ep 162. *Preview* - Fear of Kathy Acker - Jack Skelley
Musician, artist, and writer Jack Skelley comes on the show to discuss his lost classic work of fiction Fear of Kathy Acker out now on Semiotext(e), William Blake, Los Angeles, Mike Kelley, and more.
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Pt. 2 - Humiliation Ritual - Sven Loven & Dana Dawud
Parsing through 25 exabytes of data, a critical reassessment of "The Vibe Shift"-2 years later, the Miami Art Basel stabber inhabited by cybernetic entities, acculturation vs. folklore, the Film01 screening, aesthetic exchanges with evil, toxic online spaces, doxxing as a new form of portraiture, soft cults, digital eulogy, a post e-girl world, and more. "The right attention is no attention." Part 1. comes after part 2.
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160. - Q&A III *PREVIEW*
Some thoughts on being a cancer transplant donor + Q & A including Droopy Dog, creative advice, and more.
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159. - Archives of the Impossible - Camille and Faith (Texas Overture)
The ladies from my favorite podcast Texas Overture come on the show to discuss their experience of the Archives of the Impossible paranormal archive conference at Rice University amongst many other things: “In and Out of This World: Material and Extraterrestrial Bodies in the Nation of Islam” Forrest Bess, Topaz Mining, Skinwalkers at the Pentagon, and the mass turn towards paranormal and celestial interests.

158. - Baudrillard Live Pt. 2 - Study the Ether *PREVIEW*
Pt. 2- Applying Baudrillard's concept of the Fatal Strategy. Other topics: ether, anesthesia, The Waste Land, AI, the history of the mini-skirt, Emanuel Swedenborg's skull, Sophie Calle, baroque, alchemy, etc. lots of good stuff in this one.
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157. - Contain / Decode pt. 1 w/ Inherent It Girl & Cute Noumena

*PREVIEW* 156. - Baudrillard Live - Pt. 1 - Lookism (w/ Emmalea Russo)
First part in a series on Baudrillard Live - collected spontaneous interviews with writer Emmalea Russo, diving into his thoughts on the movie theatre, Los Angeles, fashion, fatal strategies, on-demand streaming services, what it means to be 'Post-Critical', lookism, and more clairvoyant 1980's observations from the Lt. Columbo of parasociology. The resurgence is as real as xerox…
Pt. 2 and 3. to come next month - thank you everyone

Ep. 155. - Confessions of a Mascot - JMU Duke Dog
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PREVIEW -153.- The Tyranny of the Mid - Vincent Lê & Eric Schmid

Pt. 1 of 4 - 152. Lysergic Computative Stalin: Images w/ Subliminal Jihad
Hour 1 of 4 hour investigative/synthetic special with Subliminal Jihad Full: www.patreon.com/contain Music from the episode: https://on.soundcloud.com/PamifH2kx93QVeYG6

151. - Reincarnation/Past Life Phenomena - Brad Phillips
Episode on the strange phenomena and para-psychology of reincarnation, life-after-death, and near-death experience recollection with my friend artist/writer Brad Phillips
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*Preview* 150. - Iron Butterfly: The Disappearance of Polymaths - Kantbot

148. - The Citadel: Gene Wolfe - M.E.S.H + DJH
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PREVIEW 146. - Geopoetics: Deepfakes in Deep-Time - Leszlek Stalewski
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Can a deep fake be beautiful? Episode w/ writer Leszlek Stalewski on Chat GPT3, AI, geopoetics and how natural developments still shape our cultural landscape. Kojeve's book Incarnating Beauty on Kandinsky and non-representational art and his view that it is 'more total and objective' than representational painting, how youth movements form (rap), why people entertain stupid new things to obtain funding, Goethe, deep-time, mineral substances, the fossil question of Agostino Scilla (the FQ), Brocken Specters, & more...an exploration on the creation of value, appraising the value that already exists.

145. - A Podcast Against The Spoken Word - Ian Svenonious (The Make-Up, Nation of Ulysees)
Contain Interview w/ Ian Svenonious (Nation of Ulysees, The Make-Up, Escape-ism, Soft Focus) about his new book, an anti-literacy polemic entitled Against The Written Word, 'the book to end all books'. From advocating for universal illiteracy to banning the phonetic alphabet, I.S takes us through an odyssey of the written word and all its consequences....
Lil Yachty as the new Little Richard, pioneering the conceptual talk-show, nostalgia Mcluhan, journalists: scribes of the oligarchs, lip syncing, analog sacrifice, covert op counter-enlightenment, digital photography disasters, Maoist anti intellectualism, slogans, how art has become the art critique, being (small s) 'conservative', and more.
“What happens when you reduce the world to words…art can’t exist in this environment, it reduces the world to legalese”

★PREVIEW★ 144. - Spiritual S*ros: Rituals, the SCCA, and The Influencing Machine - Aaron K. Moulton
Art Curator/Anthropologist Aaron Moulton comes on to discuss how art/media can become both a vehicle for social engineering and the communication of spiritual aspirations. He details his research into the Soros Centre for Contemporary Art, linked to the Open Society foundation and its introduction of Western/Neoliberal forms of artistic/social practice through the opening of 20 centers in the post-Eastern Bloc. The show he curated The Influencing Machine brings into question free will vs. determinism, the role activism plays in art, and how art becomes directionalized and purposed by NGOs and other coercive structures to suit their own agenda.
Other topics: Roma Witches in Bulgaria, Military E-girls, the introduction of socially engaged practice in contemporary art, AI interfacing systems vs analog creativity, the ‘permitted avant garde’ (trends, fashion), manufactured notions of creativity. esoteric knowledge, Seance Trickster Magic, secrets of the State Department and a lot more
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143. - Romance, Chivalry, Courage - Lawrence (Felt, Denim, Mozart Estate)
The elusive legend known as Lawrence (Felt, Denim, Mozart Estate), on fame, mystery, consumerism, his relationship with Martin Duffy (RIP) & Maurice Deebank, the history of Felt, cartoons, technology, how to not overexpose yourself, creating your own world, his three elements to cherish, the concept behind his new project Mozart Estate, & more. ‘I want to prove that being famous doesn’t mean you have to be a prostitute to media.’
Recorded directly from flip phone (he doesn’t own a computer or smartphone) using an advanced podcasting contraption, this interview has been in the making for months now. One of the biggest inspirations to Contain and one of the greatest lyricists of all time, there couldn’t be a better way to ring in the third birthday of this show.
Order his new album Pop-Up! Ker-Ching! And The Possibilities Of Modern Shopping. Thanks to Charlie Hannah and Matti from Cherry Red for helping make this possible. World as Soft As Lace cover intro/outro by Barrett.
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142. - PART 1: Action Movie Special - @mikeymdc
PT 1. : 2h40 minute quest into the world of action movies with Mikey MDC , from Heroic Bloodshed to Hong Kong Vengeance, everything from Barb Wire starring Pam Anderson to Sammo Hung to Future Kill and The Transporter to the Cinema du Look of The Professional. Examining the role action movies & representations of violence provide in an increasingly tedious, discursive, & pro-social cultural landscape. The militaristic boosts of Black Hawk Down to the propaganda of the China Film Group Corporation & Kung Fu Hustle. For full archive of episodes, bonuses, and more consider subscribing to the show on Patreon.

140. - Survivance / Did The CIA Fund Good Art - Dominique Althoff

PREVIEW 138. Geology Talk (Leibniz's Unicorn) - Kylie White - 1st 30
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Episode w/ artist/researcher Kylie White on archeology, unicorns: are they real?, Goethe's volcanic explorations and its role in Faust, Plutonism vs. Neptunism: who really won?, a Leibnizian rebuttal of Deep Geological Time, Scene Revival: a psy*p?, John Duns Scotus the post-naturalist, how James Hutton was the 18th century's version of Steven Pinker, why people are tearing each other down so much right now, uniformitarianism, is Space & Time even real, Scotland + more 🪨🗿🪨🗿🪨.

137. Theory of a Short-Wave Trend - Olivia Kan Sperling
Theory of a Short-Wave Trend with author of Island Time and Paris Review editor Olivia Kan Sperling. Is newness a natural function of the idealized image of desire or the economy? The post-historical aesthetic of Balenciaga (giving way to recent controversies), computer programming: the language of the other, learning to code, the stylized relationship to the self (from BAP to Instagram), fashion's use of theory language, Island Time, Sarah Fucking Snyder, Technometry, long-wave trends, Lacan, tearing the fabric of reality, political economy, & more...fascinating convo, learned a lot! For full episodes support &🌋subscribe here 🌻

☑️PREVIEW ☑️ 136. Non-Things: Upheaval in the Lifeworld - Byung Chul Han w/ Emmalea

164. - Poem of the River - @ikjfomo
w/ Ian Kim Judd of Nina
A look at Felt's Poem of the River (1987) and the career of Lawrence as well as Mayo Thompson, Art-Language magazine / collective, Terry Atkinson, language as art, box sets, fame, denim
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134. - Somatics - Zac Waltman / Hopper1000

131. - Autism w/ Tao Lin

First Part of Ep. 130 - Operation Appleseed: Dispatch from a 3D Printed Permaculture Commune
I went to a permaculture/black swan commune/additive manufacturing gun compound in Central Texas to interview one of its members, CAD gun engineer/designer Tom.
'Most people aren't worth spending any time with'
'The position is technological terrorism...engaging with techne to make certain regulations moot'
Doing the work actually existing nanobusiness grindset 100

129. Wild Bitches Party - Marika Thunder PREVIEW

127. Dry Talk w/ Coolwater (Return of Alex)
Alex aka Coolwater is back from seasons 1 + 2 for this very special episode of season 1 shock-collar therapy unhinged rants: Social Dynamic Hackers, TPot/Effective Altruism Burning Man AI Statians, Hacking Social Dynamic Vibe Camp Elders, Barbara Marx Hubbard, Steve Cokely vs. The Black Skull & Bones, Marketing Bros, Technometry, Maga Communism, Right Wing Pick-Me's, BRICS, Nathan Felder's Low IQ , All About Lily Chou-Chou, Walter Breen, Lars Von Trier's Manderlay + Samuel Beckett closed theatre, Liars
All music for this episode is unreleased Coolwater stuff. It's insanely good and you should buy his first CD . Ah man, it feels good to be back.

PREVIEW 126. Metadata, Geology, and Mormonism: American Utopian Experiments 2 - Ben Sang
After a short break to end last year’s run of shows we’re back with Ben Sang to talk Mormanism as a continuation of the American Utopia Series and the outgrowth of the offsite art movement in 2022. We go into the history of the Plutonist vs. Neptunist school of geology/volcanology and the life of Dolamieau, international playboy and geologist who inspired the blacksploitation movie Dolomite and was a member of Knights of Malta. Other topics: Archival Art, Nicholas Luhmen's Cybernetic Theory, Angel Maroni, Golden Plates, metadata, library arts and the structure of Memory, Maurice and Katya Krafft, Nancy Holt, Final Hot Desert, the utopia of Deseret and how all of this relates to this Very Weird moment we find ourselves in today.

Ep. 125: Mycelium Casket w/ Elusin

Ep. 144 *Preview*: Recessionmaxxing pt. 2-American Utopia w/ Ed Berg
Pt. 2 3 hr episode on Utopia and Crisis with Ed Berger (Pseudodoxology podcast) brushes on the history of American Utopian Communities (Mormons, Labadists, Owenites, Catholic E-Girls), their failures and successes, and long wave economic patterns…Carlota Perez, Techno Economic Paradigms, Alfred Sohn Rethel (Real Abstraction) and Finance Punk, the delinking of Gold from the Dollar, epic road trips, Plato & Deleuze, the eternal 1970’s, Apocalyptic Fantasies, the decadence movement…Ed introduces the concept of ‘Defluencing’, Global Peacekeeping and Nuclear Power, Deep Country Shamanism, The Human Potentiality movement, Hashish, frenetic standstills, ‘Lacanian Maoism’ (lol), the end of the microtrend and the introduction of the macrotrend…
“The microtrend in and of itself is like a tautology…each individual street trend is a discourse surrounding who started the trend in question, pure self referential, a hall of mirrors.” 🇺🇸 🍞 🏍
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Ep. 122: All That's Solid Melts Into Air w/ Matt Shaw

★PREVIEW★Ep.121: Mass Shooter Recovery w/ Zach Emmanuel (Countere)
Zach Emmanuel has explored the fringes of American life through his journalism for the mainstream press before working independently with Countere. From interviewing prison gangs to campaigning and doing the last John McAffee interview (weeks before he was ___), the man has had some wild experiences. His recent work tackles the subject of potential Mass Shooter recovery groups and the schizo-internet bodybuilding world of Dark Iron Gains. Other topics: Expert of the Card Table (Bernays) and the social matrix, Lake Chad and the greening of the Sahara/climate change, Gucci Mane, Native Ghost Stories, PETA activists, didactic garbage, spending 24 hours at a strip club and more.
Check out the always interesting Countere Magazine

Ep. 120: Recessionmaxxing w/ Ed Berg
Wide-ranging 3 hr episode w/ research god and Pseudodoxology cohost Ed Berg on all things recession: reevaluating the declining rate of profit, learning how to repair stuff, exotica music, time abolishment, Baudrillard's America, post-Marxism, Desert Islands, Americana, The Great Reset, Promis Software, cornucopia, Cyborg w/ Jean Claude Van Damme as a cinematic masterpiece, production vs. commodity capitalism, retrocausality, melting in the sun, vibe-trutherism, the 2008 financial crisis, the Chicago Surrealists/Imagists, the anti-freemasonry movement, Deleuze, crisis theory, and much more.
Surefire compendium to get you through weird times. We're recessionmaxxing on an archipelago, watching John Woo action movies, care to join? 🏝️ If you enjoy this episode and more please considering subscribing here.

Ep. 119: Nadaa w/ Hunter Ravenna Hunt-Hendrix (PART 1)
Guest Hunter Ravenna Hunt-Hendrix of Liturgy: a conversation on religion's role in art today: a trend, or beyond? The Overton window shift, being 'polarizing' outside of exterior cultural situations, on asceticism vs. pleasure-seeking, fabulism, accelerationism, trad, animism, Friedrich Schiller, automation, chaos magic, finding your own morality/(agency), Vajrayana, & more. Very nice to talk with someone who has a very different outlook than my own. Hunter's first solo show can be viewed at Gern NYC.
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The Disappearance of Rituals: pt. 3 Summer w/ Emmalea Russo
Why do ideas that seemed radical just 6 months ago seem so played out now? Does repetition yield new becomings or burnout? Rituals can be an answer to the production of the self and the excessive search for trends and novelty. Rituals bring closure while stabilizing life and allow it to flourish. We look at all this through Byung Chul Han’s The Disappearance of Rituals, Werner Schroeter’s adaptation of the book Malina, and Desert Islands by Giles Deleuze…
We’re hanging out on Easter Island heads & listening to exotic jazz, recessionmaxxing on an archipelago now, getting heat stroke under your bucket hat, & being an idiot. Follow Emmalea Here

Ep. 117: Gaia, Masonry, Watergate, and the Origins of Heroin Chic w/ Jennifer Herrema PT. 1
Jennifer Herrema, 90’s icon/singer/producer of Royal Trux goes on deep interconnection lore:
John Dean/Watergate family DC politico stories from the vault, Calvin Klein/the manufacturing of heroin chic, Latin American emerald heists, watching the Super Bowl with a dying Timothy Leary, Liquid GHB, The Gaia Hypothesis, John Hinkley’s musical career, heavy metal evangelism, Tik Tok, calling the cops and getting yourself arrested, + more from one of the last legends of the American underground 🏢📠
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Ep.115: The Romantic Lais and Feminine Appreciation of Sleepytime Bear
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Sleepy Time Bear is a twitter user well known for his universally beloved and beautiful romantic modern poetry. In omnipresent flashes of digital hate-release, he spreads fondness on the TL, bringing joy to anyone who comes across his Celestial Seasons avatar.
We talk about erotic poetry and the language of love, from the anonymous, steamy, adulterous lais of Marie De France to Heloise and Abbard and William Blake; an appreciation of The Ladies, just 'understanding' things, making theorycels angry, and some great advice from the bear himself. He has been described as an 'instant anti-depressant'.
"A woman's photos on her phone are better curated than any 'exhibit'"...so true.

Ep. 114 PREVIEW: A Spectre Haunting Finance : Laruelle and Exiting Post-Cringe Society w/ Dr. Alexander Bienstock Esq.
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The crypto market has crashed. Comedy philosophy is The Key. In this episode, me and Bienstock dive deep into the idiosyncratic concept the Spectre of Finance Punk and discuss some of its conceptual origins: Leibniz, Monad theory, Chaosophy, Concept Art, Post-Art, and Mail Art, and probably the least boring explanation of Francois Laruelle Non-Philosophy around. Barrett details his infiltration of an NFT Goddess "Web 3 meets Spirituality" event this weekend and determines that he was the spectre all along on mushrooms. This is a rigorous lesson on nubased, non-BBQ, and the Omnicringe, where we get to talk about and preview the book and movie we just finished a little bit.
This episode also details the nature of speculative finance and its collapse, how ideas and concepts have objecthood, and are liberatory in and of themselves. We made all the music for this episode! Lots of work went into this, thanks for listening

Ep. 113: transgression larpers w/ Ryder Ripps & Pauly0x
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Here we go: an episode w/ Ryder Ripps + Pauly0x on their RR/BAYC project, questioning whether or not the internet has agency, SJW's, destroying eth., staying hated, conceptual art, beef, making tons of money re-minting bored ape JPEGS, what is a satire, and debate some other recent topics best not even written down in the description. Can we all just get along?

Ep. 112: Terrence Malick/India-fense of Schizoposting w/ Paul (from bible)
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After an intense week, here's a 'chill' one w/ artist/writer Paul (from bible) , who calls in from India (on a bad connection) to talk about media theorist Vilem Flusser, Apichatpong Weerasethakul, and America/India on Memorial Day. We examine a natural/historical case for the recently derided act of 'schizoposting', and also talk about the direct-speak to gaslighting pipeline. Happy Wednesday!
Music is a Paul remix of Organ Tapes 'Heaven Can Wait'