
All in this together: a podcast about co-production and citizen involvement
By Co-production Network

All in this together: a podcast about co-production and citizen involvement Feb 11, 2023

S02E20 Taking your first steps into co-production
A series of exploration about co-production in public services.
In this episode we hear from Noreen Blanluet and Ruth Dineen, Co-founders of the Co-Production Network for Wales, who explore how you start your co-production journey. They will examples and case studies to demonstrate how starting co-production can feel and what it might look like.
This series is hosted by Mike Corcoran for the Co-production Network for Wales.
The producer is Emmi Manteau.
Recorded: November 2020
Duration: 27'00"

S02E19 Co-production: Frequently Asked Questions
A series of exploration about co-production in public services.
In this episode we hear from Noreen Blanluet, Co-founder of the Co-Production Network for Wales, sharing with listeners the top 5 questions that we are often asked at the Co-production Network, and offering some thoughts and responses to these frequently asked questions about overcoming potential barriers and challenges.
00'51" - How much does it cost to do co-production?
03'45" - What do you do when you don't have time to do co-production well?
06'58" - What if you want to do co-production yourself, but you're struggling to get the buy-in to support co-production from higher up in your organisation?
11'09" - Why isn't there more co-production happening? Why is it the exception not the rule, an why don't we see it everywhere we look?
18'59" - Why does doing co-production sometimes feel like such hard work?
This series is hosted by Mike Corcoran for the Co-production Network for Wales.
The producer is Emmi Manteau.
Recorded: November 2020
Duration: 23'41"

S02E18 Focusing on what matters
A series of exploration about co-production in public services.
In this episode we hear from Noreen Blanluet, Co-founder of the Co-production Network for Wales, who explores the key performance indicators of what good co-production looks like, and how we determine what to measure when thinking about the success, effectiveness and impact of co-production.
This series is hosted by Mike Corcoran for the Co-production Network for Wales.
The producer is Emmi Manteau.
Recorded: November 2020
Duration: 15'38"
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S02E17 Doing co-production online
A series of exploration about co-production in public services.
In this episode we hear Noreen Blanluet, Co-founder of the Co-production Network for Wales, talking about how online facilitation and working online can provide a different way to reach people, and how diversifying our reach and including more people in the conversation can be beneficial for the co-production process. Noreen also looks at the barriers, challenges and restrictions online facilitation and working online can bring.
This series is hosted by Mike Corcoran for the Co-production Network for Wales.
The producer is Emmi Manteau.
Recorded: November 2020
Duration: 31'57"

S02E16 Building a co-production team
A series of exploration about co-production in public services.
In this episode we hear from Rachel Wolfendale, trainer and facilitator at the Co-production Network for Wales, who reflects on the Co-production Network for Wales' journey of creating a strong and supportive co-production community in which individual members can thrive. Rachel talks about the power of facilitating ongoing conversations and building relationships and networks to enhance the co-production process, helping more people understand the importance and necessity of the work, as well as sharing good practice and learning.
This series is hosted by Mike Corcoran for the Co-production Network for Wales.
The producer is Emmi Manteau.
Recorded: November 2020
Duration: 29'21"

S02E15 Co-production and housing
A series of exploration about co-production in public services.
In this episode we hear from Ceri Meloy, Head of Business at Tai Pawb. Ceri draws on experiences and projects from Tai Pawb's portfolio of work to explore how co-production is and can be used across the housing sector, with a particular focus on the power of championing equality, diversity and inclusion within their work.
This series is hosted by Mike Corcoran for the Co-production Network for Wales.
The producer is Emmi Manteau.
Recorded: November 2020
Duration: 29'20"

S02E14 Co-production and the arts
A series of exploration about co-production in public services.
In this episode we hear from Suze Dempsey Sawin, producer and project manager in the field of socially engaged arts, and Jo Marsh, Creative Director at Ty Pawb in Wrexham, who discuss how co-production can be used to develop genuine and authentic participation with audiences, and reflect on the differences and similarities between co-production and the socially engaged practice commonly used across the arts sector.
This series is hosted by Mike Corcoran for the Co-production Network for Wales.
The producer is Emmi Manteau.
Recorded: November 2020
Duration: 37'47"

S02E13 Co-production and education
A series of exploration about co-production in public services.
In this episode we hear from Claire Taylor, Deputy Vice-Chancellor and Professor of Education at Wrexham Glyndwr University, and Nina Ruddle, Head of Public Policy Engagement at Wrexham Glyndwr University, who explore what co-production means in education, and the concept of doing with instead of doing to in educational settings. They also consider the importance of listening and curiosity to strengthen relationships between educational institutions and communities to drive forward change.
This series is hosted by Mike Corcoran for the Co-production Network for Wales.
The producer is Emmi Manteau.
Recorded: November 2020
Duration: 29'52"

S02E12 Co-production and community building
A series of exploration about co-production in public services.
In this episode we hear from Dave Horton, Co-director and Development Manager at ACE: Action in Caerau & Ely, and Kate Hamilton, Programme Director at Renew Wales, who discuss how co-production can help to promote the value of communities as well as the richness community groups can bring to the co-production process, through sharing their experiences and telling stories to help drive forward positive change.
This series is hosted by Mike Corcoran for the Co-production Network for Wales.
The producer is Emmi Manteau.
Recorded: November 2020
Duration: 38'23"

S02E11 Co-production in health and social care
A series of exploration about co-production in public services.
In this episode we hear from Jenny O'Hara Jakeway, chief executive of Credu Connecting Carers, and Daniel Madge, Senior Organisational Development Manager for Aneurin Bevan University Health Board, who share with us their experiences of co-production within the health and social care sector in Wales.
This series is hosted by Mike Corcoran for the Co-production Network for Wales.
The producer is Emmi Manteau.
Recorded: November 2020
Duration: 37'26"

S02E10 Co-production stories with Kelvin Jones
A series of exploration about co-production in public services.
In this episode we hear from Kelvin Jones, a volunteer who, following his personal experiences, encourages and enables other to do co-production. Kelvin shares what co-production means to him as well as what it truly means to value people and use their knowledge, skills and experiences to overcome issues and problems that services may face.
This series is hosted by Mike Corcoran for the Co-production Network for Wales.
The producer is Emmi Manteau.
Recorded: November 2020
Duration: 24'30"

S02E09 Co-production stories with Dilys Burrell
A series of exploration about co-production in public services.
In this episode we hear from Dilys Burrell, a self-employed consultant working on a range of community, environment and sustainability projects across Wales. Dylis shares with us her experiences of working with people collaboratively to try and make change happen, and how she has drawn on the values of co-production to help further develop her work.
This series is hosted by Mike Corcoran for the Co-production Network for Wales.
The producer is Emmi Manteau.
Recorded: November 2020
Duration: 25'27"

S02E08 Co-production stories with Daniel Madge
A series of exploration about co-production in public services.
In this episode we hear from Daniel Madge, Senior Organisational Development Manager for Aneurin Bevan University Health Board, sharing with us his experiences of co-production and what these have taught him in relation to his own practice and life.
This series is hosted by Mike Corcoran for the Co-production Network for Wales.
The producer is Emmi Manteau.
Recorded: November 2020
Duration: 37'27"

S02E07 Co-production and research
A series of exploration about co-production in public services.
In this episode we hear from Niccola Hutchinson-Pascal from the Co-Production Collective, providing an insight into who the Co-Production Collective are and what they do, before exploring the concept of using co-production in research.
This series is hosted by Mike Corcoran for the Co-production Network for Wales.
The producer is Emmi Manteau.
Recorded: November 2020
Duration: 31'11"

S02E06 Co-production and evaluation
A series of exploration about co-production in public services.
In this episode we hear from Alain Thomas, a freelance consultant specialising in participatory techniques and public engagement, sharing experiences and findings from his work to outline what evaluation is and how it is linked to co-production.
This series is hosted by Mike Corcoran for the Co-production Network for Wales.
The producer is Emmi Manteau.
Recorded: November 2020
Duration: 28'46"

S02E05 A brief history of co-production
A series of exploration about co-production in public services.
In this episode Noreen Blanluet, Co-founder of the Co-production Network for Wales, provides a whistle stop tour through the history of co-production.
This series is hosted by Mike Corcoran for the Co-production Network for Wales.
The producer is Emmi Manteau.
Recorded: November 2020
Duration: 20'18"

S02E04 Simple, complicated and complex
A series of exploration about co-production in public services.
In this episode we hear from Noreen Blanluet, Co-founder of the Co-production Network for Wales, who provides an introduction to the concept of complexity and complexity theory whilst exploring its synergies with co-production.
This series is hosted by Mike Corcoran for the Co-production Network for Wales.
The producer is Emmi Manteau.
Recorded: November 2020
Duration: 16'46"

S02E03 The Ladder of Participation
A series of exploration about co-production in public services.
In this episode Noreen Blanluet, Co-founder of the Co-production Network for Wales explores 3 fundamental concepts that underpin co-production. She starts by discussing the Ladder of Participation, followed by the Spectrum of Interactions, and then finishes by highlighting some key components of co-production: Co-commissioning, Co-design, Co-delivery and Co-evaluation.
01'04" - ladder of participation
06'00" - spectrum of interactions
15'50" - co-commissioning, co-design, co-delivery and co-evaluation
This series is hosted by Mike Corcoran for the Co-production Network for Wales.
The producer is Emmi Manteau.
Recorded: November 2020
Duration: 27'12"

S02E02 What is co-production? Part 2
A series of exploration about co-production in public services.
In this episode we hear Noreen Blanluet and Ruth Dineen, Co-founders of the Co-production Network for Wales, talking about how telling and listening to stories are central elements of co-production. Through their conversation they share the stories of co-production that have inspired and motivated them, and led to the creation of the Network, because of how these stories have helped to change their views about the world around them.
This series is hosted by Mike Corcoran for the Co-production Network for Wales.
The producer is Emmi Manteau.
Recorded: November 2020
Duration: 29'58"

S02E01 What is co-production? Part 1
A series of exploration about co-production in public services.
In this episode we hear from Noreen Blanluet, Co-founder of the Co-production Network for Wales, talking about what co-production means and the values and principles that underpin good co-productive practice.
1'14" - definition
2'00" - an asset based approach
4'35" - in public services
6'57" - shared power and responsibility
13'47" - equal, reciprocal and caring relationships
17'42" - contributing to social change
20'54" - definition summary
21'27" - 5 values or principles
21'53" - strengths
26'52" - networks
30'08" - lives not systems
33'23" - relationships
36'40" - people as change makers
37'58" - being people-centred / relationships-centred
This series is hosted by Mike Corcoran for the Co-production Network for Wales.
The producer is Emmi Manteau.
Recorded: November 2020
Duration: 39'38"

Components of co-production
On this session of the Co-production podcast, recorded to support some of the online learning sessions, Noreen Blanluet and Jenny Mushiring'ani Monjero discuss the different components of co-production in practice.
Producer: Emmi Manteau

In conversation with... Mencap Cymru
Noreen is in conversation with Mencap Cymru colleagues about the RCT (Rhondda Cynon Taf) Me Time project: James Prestwood, Sian Davies, Gareth Pahl, Helen Mahony and Laura Thomas.
We covered a bit of background about the project (which is still under way): what were the intentions, and where have they got to with it? We discussed how co-production comes with uncertainty and how that's not always comfortable, and how they found ways to work with this effectively. We also reflected on how relationships changed, including with their commissioners at the Local Authority. We ended with a few words of advice from each one, for anyone embarking on a similar co-production journey!
Credit: final editing by Emmi Manteau.

In conversation with... Rachel Thompson
Noreen is in conversation with Rachel Thompson (Research Associate in Information Governance and Public Involvement, in the Department of Population Data Science, Swansea University School of Medicine). Rachel's project is called: "Wales' Citizen Engagement with Responses to Covid-19", and in this chat she describes one part of it, which was about running online engagement with members of the public, around attitudes to the track and trace app. This episode was recorded as part of #Scotland #coproweek in November 2020.
Erratum: Noreen inaccurately stated in the introduction that Aj is at Birmigham University. Not so! Here are the correct details of the other participants on this call:
Dr Ajmal Mubarik (Medical Ethics and Law, Manchester University)
Mrs Lynsey Cross (Public Engagement Officer for Population Data Science, Swansea University)
Credit: final editing by Emmi Manteau.

What is co-production?
We unpack what we mean by co-production and citizen involvement in public services! We talk about the definition (00:56), the 5 principles of co-production (04:43), doing to/for/with (13:52), complexity theory (24:20), and the reasons why co-production and involvement are all the rage these days in public service circles (36:25). A longish episode to set the scene. [October 2019]