
Christians in the Public Square
By Scott Self & Cole Bennett

Christians in the Public SquareMay 13, 2022

Episode 55 - That's Church Yo!
Cole came to Chattanooga for a visit, so we joined Stephen Walker and Sean White's podcast to discuss the church and the public square. They kindly gave us permission to cross-post to our podcast. Thanks, fellas!
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Episode 54 - I Don't Know what that Means but I Love It
Stephen Walker joins us to propose a Christian view of anarchy and challenges us to consider trust in something other than the state.
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Episode 53 - Cole in the Dock
Scott interrogates Cole to understand his definition of "harm construed narrowly."
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Episode 52 - Capital Goes Where It's Welcome
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Episode 51 - Nostra Maxima Culpa
Scott and Cole are joined by Andy Little to discuss the role of corporations, corporate responsibilities, and Christian ethics in the corporate world. Andy wants the world to know that "lawyers really don't go by doctor" ;-)
Links:
Peter Wehner, "The Evangelical Church is Breaking Apart," The Atlantic, Oct. 24, 2021 (quoting Alan Jacobs).
Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company, 1981
"J&J's Controversial Bankruptcy Strategy Upheld by Judge" by Stephen Church
"J&J’s ‘Texas Two-Step’ Talc Bankruptcy Strategy Remains in Doubt" by James Nani
"A Humane Economy: The Social Framework of the Free Market" by Wilhelm Ropke
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Episode 50 - A Guy with a Clipboard
Ben Peterson joins us for a conversation about Catholic Social Teaching, and his thesis that the church needs to explore its opportunity to engage in social justice and love by creating communities that shape our character.
Links:
Invoking the Tradition Catholic Social Teaching in Policy Debates by Ben Peterson
How We Reason About Covid Tradeoffs by Ben Peterson
Pilgrims in Our Own Country, The Christian Confession and the Christian Conundrum by Ben Peterson
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Episode 49 - Channeling My Inner Niebuhr
Scott and Cole discuss a controversy in the SBC, and Scott tries to argue that the problem runs deeper than the issue they're fighting over.
Links:
Our Lord Isn’t Woke: Southern Baptists Clash Over Their Future. By Ian Lovett
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Episode 48 - Christianity and the Arts
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Gulf Coast Highway with Emma and Cole
A Theology of Reading - The Hermeneutics of Love by Alan Jacobs
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Episode 47 - I'm Gonna Need You to Grow Up
Darryl Tippens joins us again for a discussion about the challenges of engaging with literature, film, and other media; how do we decide what we are willing to see/read?
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Episode 46 - What is the (Christian) Purpose of Business
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Video: What is the Purpose of Business?
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Episode 45 - Identity Religion
Scott and Cole talk about the challenge of identity, labels, and whether Christianity has become an identity religion.
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Episode 44 - The Wearing of Pants
Scott and Cole unpack arguments of "religious exemptions," liberty, the rights of the state, and the importance of wearing pants.
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Episode 43 - We're Baaaack
Scott and Cole discuss why we took and break, and why we stopped taking a break. Scott casts a vision for the coming season.
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Episode 42 - SC: Grotesque Homunculus
At the end of Season 2, Scott enters the Speakers' Corner to argue that the church's cozy relationship with conservatism is a tragic flaw of American Christianity. Also, if you notice Scott's grammatical error at 12:20, go and tell it to a skunk ;-)
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Episode 41 - SC: Of BBQ and Market Choice
In this Speakers' Corner, Cole makes a free-market argument. He distracted Scott with barbecue sufficiently to make his argument free from interruption or disputation.
Let us know if you have an essay you'd like to pitch for the Speakers' Corner on CP2!
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Episode 40 - Shibboleth
Scott and Cole discuss three different articles about the relationship between race, social groups, and Christianity.
Links:
"Is the Anti-Racism Training Industry Just Peddling White Supremacy?" By Jonathan Chait
"America Isn't a Racist Country" by Ward Connerly
"White Christian America Needs a Moral Awakening" by Robert P. Jones
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Episode 39 - The Twisting of Arms
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Episode 38 - What's In a Name?
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Confederate Statues Were Never Really About Preserving History
George Benson's Name Remains on Auditorium Despite Petition
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Episode 37 - An Anarcho-Syndicalist Commune
Links:
Bishop Takes Castle by S. C. GWYNNE
The Episcopal Diocese of Fort Worth v. The Episcopal Church, Supreme Court of Texas
Bishop Mayer Letter to the Diocese in the Wake of Supreme Court Decision
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Episode 36 - Penumbras and Emanations
Scott and Cole are joined by Kenneth Pybus to discuss the history of abortion law, the efforts to reverse Roe v. Wade, and Kenneth's view of his role as a Christian in the Public Square in relation to the issue of abortion.
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Pregnancy Resources of Abilene
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Episode 35 - SC: Fish Stories
Friend of the show Kobi Nelson shares her perspective on gratitude.

Episode 34 - AKA Norma McCorvey
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Episode 33 - SC: The Heart of Markets: A Defense of Capitalism
Cole's essay defines capitalism as a pure and simple exchange of mutual self-interest.
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Episode 32 - Right to Living
Scott and Cole discuss health care, the implications of COVID-19 on the discussion, and Scott's belief that there is a "right to life and living."
Links:
"Citizens who lost health coverage in past 7 weeks due to economic collapse" by Qasim Rashid
"Fact check: Did 3.5 million Americans lose health coverage in the last two weeks?" by Madeline Heim
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Episode 31 - SC:Thus Have We Made the World
This is the first of a new feature on CP-Square called "The Speaker's Corner." These episodes are short audio essays. Cole and I will be sharing these from time to time, and we would be willing to consider essays from listeners as well. Pitch us your idea for an audio essay!
In this essay, Scott is forced to rethink his own darker view of the world, and why he wants to notice more and confess less.
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Episode 30 - The Lamestream Media
Scott and Cole unpack the last couple of episodes. Scott is a little worried that Cole has taken a lickin' - Cole keeps on tickin'.
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Episode 29 - News is a Cat Video
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Episode 28 - Enemy of the People
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Bobby Ross, Editor-in-Chief at The Christian Chronicle
"COVID-19: The Gap Between The News Media And People Of Faith" by Bobby Ross, Jr.
"Trump Embraces 'Enemy of the People,' a Phrase With a Fought History" by Andrew Higgins
Donald Trump's Tweet about Lamestream media hoping to harm his reelection
"The Cult of the Individual" by Nikita Krushchev, 1956
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Episode 27: The Tyranny of Easy Answers
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Episode 26: Don't Kill Betty White
Wake up - Season 2 starts with new intro music and a couple of fellas who are suspicious of each others' coughs. Scott and Cole discuss the 2 trillion dollar Covid-19 stimulus package, and Scott tries to convince Cole that this is not socialism; it's something else.
Links:
"The Fatal Conceit: The Errors of Socialism" by F. A. Hayek
"Golden girl" by Fiddling Werewolves
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Episode 25 - Against "Against Empathy"
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"Against Empathy" by Paul Bloom
"When Helping Hurts" by Steve Corbett and Brian Fikkert
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Episode 24: Human Rights and Human Dignity
Scott and Cole are joined by Darryl Tippens to discuss the historical Christian roots of human rights and human dignity. Darryl ultimately makes the point that Judeo-Christian traditions have shaped how we understand them.
References:
Our assigned reading was ...
Moyn, R. (2014). The secret history of constitutional dignity. Yale Human Rights and Development Law Journal, 17(1), 38-68.
Additional readings...
Moyn, R. (2014). Christian human rights. University of Pennsylvania Press.
Moyn, R. (2018). Not enough: Human rights in an unequal world. Harvard University Press.
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Episode 23: Waffle House Prayer Breakfast
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"How Do Christians Fit Into the Two-Party System? They Don’t" by Timothy Keller
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Episode 22: Listener Feedback
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Episode 21: The Airing of Grievances
Cole and Scott challenge each other on some things they have let slide so far in the podcast. Cole defends his explanation of the relationship between his faith and his politics, and Scott defends fleecing the rich.
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Episode 20: We've Got a Lot of Problems - Part 2
Cole and Scott are joined by F. LaGard Smith. This interview was edited into two parts in post-production. In Part 2, we discuss the relationship between law and morality, and the cultural influences on the church's interpretation of God's will.
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The Cultural Church by F. LaGard Smith
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Episode 19: We've Got a Lot of Problems - Part 1
Cole and Scott are joined by F. LaGard Smith. This interview was edited into two parts in post-production. In Part 1, we discuss The First Amendment and Natural Law.
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The Natural Law Tradition in Ethics at Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy
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Episode 18: Dirty Rotten Scoundrels
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Episode 17: Is Diversity a Virtue?
Scott and Cole are joined by guest Bart Herridge. We discuss some of the arguments of whether 'diversity" is a virtue, and the challenges of thinking about issues of diversity in the workplace, the political space, or the education space. We referenced several articles in this episode. Scott incorrectly referred to Chrobot-Mason & Aramovich's (2013) study at one point, when he should have referenced Ely & Thomas' (2001) article.
Chrobot-Mason, D., & Aramovich, N. P. (2013). The psychological benefits of creating an affirming climate for workplace diversity. Group & Organization Management, 38(6), 659-689.
Ely, R. J., & Thomas, D. A. (2001). Cultural diversity at work: The effects of diversity perspectives on work group processes and outcomes. Administrative Science Quarterly, 46(2), 229–273. https://doi.org/10.2307/2667087
Page, S. E. (2007). Making the difference: Applying a logic of diversity. Academy of Management Perspectives, 21(4), 6–20. https://doi.org/10.5465/AMP.2007.27895335
Roberge, M. E., & van Dick, R. (2010). Recognizing the benefits of diversity: When and how does diversity increase group performance? Human Resource Management Review, 20(4), 295–308. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.hrmr.2009.09.002
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Episode 16: Friday Morning Live
Scott and Cole record their podcast live in Dr. Jon Camp's "Civil Discourse" class at Abilene Christian University, where they discuss Kling's model for "The Three Languages of Politics."
Kling's "Three Languages of Politics"
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Episode 15: Release the McCracken
Christian Faith and Social Justice: Five Views, edited by Vic McCracken
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Episode 14: It's Complicated
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Episode 13: Listener Feedback
Scott and Cole respond to listener feedback. We love hearing from our listeners; email your feedback to cpsquarepodcast@gmail.com. Also, Scott and Cole discuss whether Scott may be talking out of two sides of his mouth.
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Ananias and Sapphire, Acts 5:1-11
"The Origins of the Religious Right" by Randall Balmer
Wikipedia Article - Hobbes' Leviathan
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Episode 12: Bros B4 Politicos
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Episode 11: Redlining
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"The Case for Reparations" by Ta-Nehisi Coates
Between the World and Me by Ta-Nehisi Coates
"Ta-Nehisi Coates is the Neoliberal Face of the black Freedom Struggle" by Cornell West
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Episode 10: You Are Traffic
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Minter Lane Church of Christ, where Albert preaches
"History of Racism against Mexican-Americans Clouds Texas Immigration Law" by Suzanne Gamboa
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Episode 9: A Criticism of Cynicism
Scott and Cole talk about the difference between the intellectual virtue of skepticism and the vice of cynicism. Scott asserts that there are Christians operating in the public square who echo the lazy cynicism of Pilate's question, "What is truth?"
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"Why Did We Go to War?" PBS Frontline
"Lie of the Year: 'If you like your health care plan, you can keep it'" by Angie Drobnic Holan
CliftonStrengths (Formerly StrengthsQuest or StrengthsFinders 2.0)
"What are Intellectual Virtues?" Educating for Intellectual Virtues
"Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs" Wikipedia
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Episode 8: Wise as Serpents, Gentle as Doves
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"A Note about our Coverage of Donald Trump's 'Campaign'" by Ryan Grim and Danny Shea
"A Note on Trump: We Are No Longer Entertained" by Arianna Huffington
"Understanding Editorial Decisions" by Kat Sommers
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Episode 7: Jesus Wants Your Cash Part Deux
Cole is worried that the previous episode made him sound like a jerk. Scott and Cole discuss more about the needs of the poor, the role of the state, and the role of Christians. Scott gets cranky about the theology of charis.
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Hudson, K. & Coukos, A. (2005). The dark side of the protestant ethic: A comparative analysis of welfare reform. Sociological Theory, 23(1), 1-25.
"Carter-Era Housing Policies Helped Spark Sub-Prime Crisis, Expert Says" by Josiah Ryan
Gambling with Other People's Money by Russ Roberts
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Episode 6: Jesus Wants Your Cash
Scott and Cole have fundamental differences about how to think about social welfare. We fly our flags proudly in this episode, and argue about the ways in which our faith intersects with our view of welfare programs.
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Definition of Classical Liberalism
"Witness the violence inherent in the system!" Monty Python - Holy Grail
Here are a list of definitions for some of the terms we threw around in this episode...
Consequentialist (Ontological) Ethics
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Episode 5: You Say You Want a Revolution?
Scott and Cole are joined by Dan McGregor to discuss whether Christians should have participated in the American Revolution, and the challenges of pacifism. Dan shares a critique of some modern "art" and its depiction of the ways in which Christian themes are syncretized with political imagery.
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"One Nation Under God (McNaughton, Jon)
"You Are Not Forgotten" (McNaughton, Jon)
"City Upon a Hill (Winthrop, John)
"The Peaceable Kingdom (Hicks, Edward)
Inventing Freedom: How the English-Speaking Peoples Made the Modern World (Hannan, Daniel)
An Election Sermon (West, Samuel: 1762)
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Episode 4: The Context is the Context
Scott and Cole discuss Romans 13. Cole rehearses four options in interpreting the idea that leaders are chosen by God. Scott suggests that Romans 13 should be interpreted in the larger context of Romans. Some sacred cows most definitely get barbecued in this episode - and they are deLISH!
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Preface to the Letter of St. Paul to the Romans (Luther, Martin)
Sergeant Alvin York (Wikipedia)
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Episode 3: Should Christians Vote?
Scott and Cole pick up from Episode 2. They discuss whether and how Christians should have any voice in the public square. Some assert that Christians shouldn't even vote. Scott and Cole think about the challenges of different answers to the question.
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A Brief History of Citizenship (Heater, Derek)
Aristotle's Definition of Flourishing
Man's Search for Meaning (Frankl, Viktor)
Franklin Graham: God Put Trump in Office (onenewsnow.com)
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Episode 2: You're Asking the Wrong Question
Scott and Cole discuss what it means to "render unto Caesar," and whether we're even asking the right questions about the relationship between church and state. The rise of Imperial Christianity and the relationship of Christianity to power are explored.
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The Battle of Milvian Bridge (Wikipedia)
Battle of Milvian Bridge and Rise of Christianity (Cavendish, Richard)
Moral Man, Immoral Society (Niebuhr, Reinhold)
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Episode 1: Getting to Know You
Scott and Cole explore the differences in their political perspectives, and identify what unites them in Christian brotherhood. Scott's love for all things Pink Floyd are also discussed.
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Libertarian Socialism explained by Noam Chomsky
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