Crisis Of Faith With Joe And Drew

Drew gets a don't tread on me flag. Joe's hands smell like garlic. And together they predict your future and end their crises.

Drew pees a little when he prophesies. Joe tries to kill the Pope. And God finishes his work on them both. 

Joe gets sappy. Drew makes disgusting smoothies. And together they say goodbye to the podcast. 

Drew learns the word cuckold. Joe does reiki. And together they talk about the biggest scandal in American evangelical history (besides all the other ones). 

Joe adds letters to his name. Drew split-sneezes like a child. And then Joe cries at Hobby Lobby. 

Drew gets fancy with Reba. Joe snakes Jerry Falwell, Jr’s drain. And together they give the golden rule an update. 

Joe is led into church on a leash. Drew flunks out of school. And together they consult an evangelical sexpert.

Drew drives two vans. Joe drives down people’s expectations. And together they discover The Purpose Driven Life™️.

Drew cuts his unders. Joe drinks bubbly water from a dirty coffee mug. Together they remember what a dick Dave Ramsey is. 

Joe plays hoops to bring people to the Lord. Drew plays music for meat. And together they learn to smile even when life boops you on the nose. 

Joe gets a state inspection. Drew serves communion to the ladies. And together they discover that dead crises of faith sometimes come back to life.

Joe makes his kids pledge to be straight. Drew gives his kids fake medicine. And together they learn why evangelicalism sounds so icky even when it’s right. 

Joe steals Drew’s HBO account. Drew explains to his parents why they only think they like Elvis. Together they try to pinpoint why Drew’s church plant failed. 

Drew rethinks his tramp stamp. Joe stops feeling his feelings. And together they explore how evangelicalism loves Jesus, just not anything he has to say. 

We’ll be back September 2022!

Joe pierces his ear with a pimple. Drew practices his tight 5. And together they finish the sermon on the mount.

Joe loses his pesky testes. Drew invites strangers into public restrooms with him. And together they decide to stop judging others except when it’s funny... or helpful... or necessary... or they forget.

Here's the article we talked about a bit late in the episode (in case you want to send it to a conservative who will DEFINITELY read it):

https://baptistnews.com/article/the-tangled-web-of-evangelical-opposition-to-abortion-while-believing-in-original-sin-eternal-conscious-torment-and-the-mysterious-age-of-accountability/?fbclid=IwAR38wwnpCX6UalYKePDK4I3CAsaJswMEs3FUG_vQ2_RtLdXVpzMW6_1CDRk#.Ynp306QpCEe

Drew eats poisoned beef jerky. Joe insists on being an accountability partner. And together they solve the problem of anxiety for everyone. 

Drew explains the “deal with toast.” Joe tells a church there is no god. And they discover the best way to be a Christian is to be sneaky about it. 

Joe and Drew hire a professional to help them learn how to develop a spirituality on the other side of evangelicalism. 

Drew chips a tooth doing a keg stand. Joe wants to sing worship songs around a campfire. And together they try to figure out what they ever saw in evangelicalism.

Drew inhales the stench of gratitude  Joe tells knock-knock jokes. And they try to sort out a disagreement they’ve had since the start of the podcast.

Joe has pointy chakras. Drew tells the same story again. And together they figure out exactly what kind of God would send them to hell.

Joe's haunches tingle. Drew flees the country. And together they plan their own cancelation. 

Drew thinks the economy is God. Joe recommends the prayer of Jabez. And together they prep Joe for the big stage.

Joe writes a haiku for his dissertation. Drew talks to Alanis Morissette at his gym. And together they explore the heavenly realms.

Drew becomes a shrink. Joe stops wearing pants. And together they learn the story of the many gods of the Bible. 

Joe eats his oatmeal spicy. Drew scams a phone repair kiosk. And they figure out which god is best.

Joe believes 50 Cent’s musical career may have lost value due to inflation. Drew offers to buy you a pizza. And they take a week off of Bible stuff to talk about the news.

Drew gives Joe a "spirit name." Joe pays a woman to stab him unconscious. And together they head BACK TO THE CROSS. 

Joe realizes in real time that people can hear his thoughts (when he says them on a podcast). The Lord teaches Drew how to properly to seduce a woman. And they each list all the things they love about the bible. 

Joe starts selling nutmeg wholesale. Drew gets edgy. And they revisit the ol' Good Book.

Joe starts leading Bigfoot tours even though he doesn't believe in Bigfoot. Drew serves up meatloaf and shame. And they both refuse to change their minds about anything ever. 

Drew gets the night sweats. Joe suggests Cobra Kai is responsible for the pandemic. And we all learn the 10 words you can't say in heaven.

Joe forces his family to talk about hell. Drew forces his family to put the X back in X-mas. And the two catch up after a month of not talking. 

Joe predicts this will be the last episode of Crisis of Faith in 2021. Drew predicts things that have already happened. And you get an inside look at all the mysteries that will unfold in 2022.

Drew chastises Joe for having very little prophetic history. Joe attempts to prophesy anyways. Together they discover just how much that matters.

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Joe and Drew phone a friend, J. Leavitt Pearl, to figure out whether violence EVER fits into a Christian ethic. 

Joe sets his parent's house on fire with his ugly Jesus collection. Drew uses religious guilt to steal the shirt off of man's back. And they start trying to figure out how you can turn the other cheek and also carry a pistol.

Joe explains why acupuncture is better than dentistry. Drew can‘t wait to tell everyone that he actually finished reading an article from The Atlantic. And they begin a BIG conversation about Jesus’ anti-resistance resistance movement. 

Here’s a link to the article we got stuck on for most of the episode https://amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/620469/

Pete Enns, co-host of The Bible For Normal People, teaches us what we're really talking about when we talk about the Bible. And speaking of divine speech, Pete finally admits that Crisis of Faith is the OTHER God-ordained podcast on the internet.  

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Joe tries to help Drew figure out whether he will continue to pledge his allegiance to evangelicalism or finally accept his fate and pledge his commitment to...the devil. 

Joe refuses to endorse Drew’s favorite show. Drew endorses Joel Osteen. And they finally get back to the Sermon on the Mount to discover what Jesus has against promises.

Drew challenges Joe to a test of strength. Joe gets heated about the heat of artificial cinnamon. Then they learn why it’s better to be left behind.

Joe gets a piercing on the air. Drew learns to tithe his rum, gin, and bourbon but can't remember the weights for his alcohol points system. And together they learn the hard way how to drink like a Christian.

Joe and Drew argue over which of them is better at "speaking the truth in love." Then Jared Byas shows up to tell them that LOVE MATTERS MORE.

https://www.amazon.com/Love-Matters-More-Fighting-Loving/dp/0310358604

Joe gets his acus punctured. Drew proves he’s as much a man as the Italian Stallion. And they both reminisce about the days of old.

Drew tells of a wonderful conversation about Torah Law he had with his grandmother. Joe makes tasteless menopause jokes, curses the elderly, and refuses to help write the description. And they bid farewell year one in the Crisis Of Faith Podcast. 

Drew promotes a line of cheap mail-order suits. Joe receives eerily specific targeted ads. And they get to the bottom of what Jesus has to say about divorce and remarriage. 

Drew says God has to be more open. Joe says God has to be more relational. Thomas Jay Oord says, "Boys, boys, boys... hear me out..."

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Drew teaches his kids how to curse. Joe learns to curse from the Apostle Paul. And they try to figure out what to do with the fact that Jesus says to never get angry and to never feel sexy. 

Drew leaves the ministry to play video games. Joe ensures him that growing his hair out is ministry enough. Then they both ponder whether Drew will ever be the same again. 

Drew goes to the K-Love awards. Joe discovers that nothing is new in contemporary Christian music. And they have an alarming conversation with Katherine Stewart about White Christian Nationalism. 

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Drew follows more Christian nationalists on Facebook. Joe threatens to throw the guest’s book into an airport trash can. And Andrew Whitehead teaches them how to “take back America for God.”

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Joe walks on water to try to convince children he is magical. Drew gets power bombed by The Peacemaker to try to convince children to join his youth group. Then both dudes talk about what it is to add salt and light to the world. 

In this episode, Joe teaches drew the secrets of biblical numerology. Drew teaches Joe how to speak in tongues. Then the jump back into Jesus’ Sermon on the Mount.

In this episode, Joe and Drew expose the Big Lie behind Big Dental. Then they dive head first into the teaching of Jesus.

Drew licks all the Trump flags in Tennessee. Joe björns his babies. And they both try to figure out how to live the way of Jesus.

In this episode, Drew finally gets proof that Joe’s wife, Gwendolen is real. Joe loses the Newlywed Game. And then they both learn what it’s like to grow up in the church with OCD.

Joe asks big questions about Jesus and guerrillas. Drew nearly starts Crisis of Faith's first ever on-air-sing-along. And Jonathan Wilson-Hartgrove teaches them that it's possible to put the EVANGEL back into Evangelical. 

Joe gets a raise by not tithing. Drew teaches Joe how to preform a money curse. Then Ronald Sider teaches them how Christians get rich.

Joe won’t tell Drew what music the Holy Spirit wants him to play. Lil Nas X plays the music evil spirits want him to play. Then Joe and Drew have to face the music with their parents.

In this episode, Drew gets the mark of the beast. Joe collects on an old debt. Then they try to navigate how to how to relate to the church while you’re in a crisis of faith.

Drew has a crisis and calls Joe. Joe gently rocks Drew back to sleep with logic and scholarly wisdom. Joe then lays awake all night having his own crisis about the questions Drew raised. And the cycle continues. You could hop into to it anytime but right HERE is a pretty great option. 

Drew finally learns to floss. Joe's prophetic gifts are affirmed. And together they ruin (or possibly save) Easter.

In this episode, Joe wins a fight using Miyagi Do karate and then steals a cupcake from a troop of Girl Scouts. Drew leaves his career as a gynecologist when he wins The Voice. Then, over a schnitzel, they both learn how to sin. 

In this episode, Drew finally opens up about his feelings but Joe won’t let him speak ill of the dead. Then Micah Melody Taberner, talks to them about gender, the Bible, and the lives of transgender, nonbinary, and gender-expansive Christians.

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In this episode, Drew can’t tell the difference between John Wayne and Jerry Falwell, so Kristin Kobes DuMez teaches him and Joe about the rise of militant masculinity in evangelicalism and American politics.

In this episode, Joe gets ex-vangelical ethicist David Gushee out of some Sticky Situations™️. Then he tells Drew and Joe how he came to affirm LGBTQ+ relationships and leadership in the church.

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In this episode Blair shows off her purity ring, Drew kisses dating goodbye, and Joe condemns himself to eternal hellfire by ignoring purity culture.

Justin helps Joe and Drew understand why in a world of pure appearance the hipster is king. 

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In this episode Joe and Drew find a loophole to get professional sex and marriage therapy without having to pay for the hour.

Drew turns to Joe for the interpretation of a very strange dream. Joe discovers his boyhood snake-handling may in fact prove he had the Holy Spirit all along. And together they conclude that God is good... or evil... or whatever...

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Drew pulls a Travolta on a Holocaust survivor. Joe offers crisistians a “special discount” on what is probably some kind of pyramid scheme. And Lucas asks a big question about... wait... who’s Lucas?!

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Drew declares “Jesus is not my only rabbi.” Joe spoils Cobra Kai Season 3. Then they both try to figure out whether Jesus was an insurrectionist.

Joe verbally assaults a fictional Crisistian. Drew gets salty about Taylor Swift. And they both practice their prophetic gifts.

In this episode Joe accidentally marries his own sister and then goes to a Christmas light show in sin. So Drew gives him a test to see if he’s a pagan.

Joe and Drew argue over who THOUGHT they were poorer (not who WAS poorer). Joe thinks the bible is wrong about “ant behavior” and that’s all he cares about. Drew thinks God founded a publishing company that really came off the rails when the bible was printed. And they both reveal that they would be kicked out of basically any denomination if they were honest about what they really believed about the bible.

Joe flips off a congresswoman and then denies it. Drew tries to help Kanye West achieve full non-profit status. And we all unlearn a little bit of what our Sunday school teachers taught us about the bible. 

In this episode Drew’s God is a perfect gentleman. Thomas Jay Oord tries to take over as co-host of the show, but Joe narrowly defeats him. And we all learn what God can’t do.

Drew barely survives a twisted ankle and gets an eye infection from holding eggs on his face, maybe?! Joe shows no sympathy. And the two of them finally admit that they have never "saved people from their sins" like they're pretty sure they were supposed to all these years. 

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Joe's mom knows the satanist's secrets about Halloween. Drew's mom accidentally fell in love with the Harry Potter books and now may be one of those satanists. Joe and Drew discover they each had a small collection of tiny plastic fetuses given to them by evangelicals at events for Christian teenagers. Joe tries to convince Drew that the whole "Christians voting pro life thing" is a conspiracy put on by Jerry Falwell or something like that. You know how conspiracies go... always landing back at the Falwells and all. 

Joe thinks he HAD mice. Drew thinks Joe HAS mice. The Pope enters into a civil union with civil unions. Joe and Drew are both concerned that the world thinks white Christians are racists and white Christians don't seem to be concerned about that. 

In the second part of this conversation Joe and Drew talk about the one thing we've all been waiting for since the start of this podcast - CIRCUMCISION. At one point Joe accuses Drew of accidental antisemitism and at another point Drew compares the redemption of the whole world to "bringing cupcakes to a cupcake-less town for the first time." 

In this episode, Joe and Drew talk about Joe's children listening to the podcast, thus learning how to use curse words more effectively, then we talk about speaking in tongues for WAY LONGER than we ever planned to (but Drew spent a solid portion of his life in tongues world so I suppose we should have expected that), and it all comes together to begin to paint a picture of how we determine who's "IN" and who's "OUT" when it comes to Christianity. 

Joe and Drew start out in a conversation about last week's presidential debate but move on quickly into much more important matters like what band made the WORST Christian music that either of them listened to growing up (I'll give you a hint: it was a Christian ska band). And Then the bulk of this episode is devoted to responding to some really smart and important questions from YOU, our listeners! 

There seems to be an unforeseen (although probably should have been foreseen) side-effect of the first several episodes of this podcast. It seems that we may have sped up some peoples’ crises a bit. In this very special episode Joe and Drew take questions from YOU, the listener, and give their best attempts at responding. You can ask more questions by going to CrisisOfFaithPodcast.com. 

As an added bonus, Joe’s sister calls in to the show to defend her honor concerning the infamous naked prostitute shot dead in a movie incendent.

In this episode Joe and Drew crack the code of all things to come for the future of humanity with little to no difficulty BUT also find themselves COMPLETELY STUMPED about how fax machines work. This conversation may sound a little more relaxed than has become customary for these boys but there is PLENTY of wonderful thought to get lost in here. 

Since HELL got three weeks worth of episodes it does seem fitting that HEAVEN would get AT LEAST a second conversation. 

In today's episode, Joe and Drew talk about the fate of the righteous when they die, how a lot of New Testament church leaders were pretty sure they'd never die before they got swept away to heaven, how many evangelicals to this day are pretty sure they'll never die before they get swept away to heaven, and about how Joe's youth pastor taught Drew  to internalize and repeat curse words he heard in movies on accident. 

So I suppose we should apologize for the title of this episode but once you listen for a bit you'll be in on the joke too. 

We have pretty much talked the hell out of HELL for the past 3 episodes because well, it’s hell. It is a CRISIS OF FAITH waiting to happen. But today we’re shifting gears and talking instead about HEAVEN. So grab your harp, your halo, and your helmet because we’re about to dive head first into the bosom of Abraham.

Joe and Drew talk just a little bit more about hell (these guys have got some some real issues with that whole thing), then about universalism and how Drew's brother actually got ordained as a Unitarian Universalist Minister so he could marry his friends and somehow they also find time to talk about that one time when Joe tried to peer-pressure Drew into smoking cloves. It's a really a lot but somehow it all fits into one conversation. Oh, and there's a theme song to this episode! 

Okay, so fine. If you want a hell so much then I suppose you can have one. But you can't have it FOREVER! In this episode, Joe and Drew talk about what the bible actually has to say about hell and it turns out the phrase "God's eternal and everlasting torture chamber" doesn't really show up in the original Hebrew or Greek like we always thought.

What the hell?! In today's episode Joe and Drew reveal all the secrets of what happens to people after they die. Yeah, you read that right. They figured it out. 

So if the GOOD NEWS that teaches that God is mostly angry with everyone and Jesus was sent to calm God down ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH, then what is? In this episode Joe and Drew discuss several ways of thinking about Jesus' work of salvation on the cross that seem to offer a version of the GOOD NEWS that sounds (at least a little bit) BETTER. 

If the GOOD NEWS is that God is going to punish almost every person who ever lives with the exception of a few people who are lucky enough to crack the "code of salvation" then I'm not sure we should call it "GOOD NEWS". 

On today's episode, Joe and Drew discuss the differences between what Jesus meant when he declared GOOD NEWS to a desperate and oppressed people who needed reform and what western Christians mean when they declare "GOOD NEWS" from positions of privilege to a world that quite simply isn't interested.