
Curious Church Podcast
By Granite Springs Church

Curious Church PodcastMay 19, 2022

67: A Very (x6) Curious Christmas
Get out your knife and fork, tie that napkin around your neck and tuck into this sumptuous feast of an episode. Enjoy some Peppermint talk, a bunch of Christmas favorites and the annual Christmas Quiz - numbers edition!
Thanks to the Reverend Dr. Kevin Adams and Amy Langle for returning to record/play with us.
And for those interested, you can find the Christmas Price Index here.

66: Listening for God (Silence & Peace)
In our third and final conversation about Frederick Buechner’s The Remarkable Ordinary, Aaron, Matt and Jana discuss Chapters 7-8.
They talk about the challenge of engaging the world and the ways that is fueled for Buechner by his own experiences of God’s silence. They also explore the various ways we react to God and his silence.
Plus, Aaron offers some music enjoyment tips!
Looking for a copy of Buechner’s book? You can read a description of the book here and pick up a copy on Amazon or wherever books are sold.

65: Listening for God (Our Story)
In our second conversation about Frederick Buechner’s The Remarkable Ordinary, Aaron, Matt and Jana discuss Chapters 3-6.
They talk about the ways Buechner highlights story as the key part of our faith, the ways that major events in our lives and the daily rhythms intellect and wrestle a little with how we discern the intersection of our story and God’s story.
Plus, a surprise beef at the beginning of the episode!
Looking for a copy of Buechner’s book? You can read a description of the book here and pick up a copy on Amazon or wherever books are sold.
Our next episode will discuss Chapters 7 & 8.

64: Listening for God (Paying Attention)
In our first conversation about Frederick Buechner’s The Remarkable Ordinary, Aaron and Matt are joined by Jana Dykhuis to explore Chapters 1 and 2.
They talk about Buechner’s unique style, why he opens his book with a discussion of art as a means of helping us pay attention and how we might pay attention to God in our ordinary lives.
Plus, Aaron grapples with our podcast’s “branding” and we share the story of a couple of lost episodes of Curious Church!
Looking for a copy of Buechner’s book? You can read a description of the book here and pick up a copy on Amazon or wherever books are sold.
Our next episode will discuss Chapters 3-6.

Next Season...Coming Soon
We know you've been clamoring for some more Curious Church Podcast and it's right around the corner. This next season, we'll be exploring the theme of "Listening for God" as we enter in conversation with Frederick Buechner's work The Remarkable Ordinary.
You can read a description of the book here and pick up a copy on Amazon or wherever books are sold.
Our first episode of the season will discuss Chapters 1 and 2.

63: Summer Curiosities
In this episode, we relax (some might say too much) and welcome Amy Langle on to join us for a discussion of road trips vs. flights, some summer likes and some rousing debates around summer-themed "Would You Rather" questions.
It's fun, silly, and as we promise at the beginning and the end, totally without substance. But hey, what's summer for?
Have your own take on summer? Email us at curiouschurch@granitesprings.org!

62: Why Was I Baptized? (One Baptism)
In this episode, we continue our conversation about baptism with Dr. Libby Backfish and the Reverend Dr. Kevin Adams as we explore Chapter 12, “One Baptism,” from Kevin’s book Living Under Water.
This episode explores the ways baptism welcomes us in and unites us, what it means for us to recognize that God decides our boundaries, the tensions between what is central and peripheral in baptism, and so much more.
We hope you enjoy this concluding conversation in our series. If you want to read along with us, you can purchase a copy of Kevin's book online here.

61: Why Was I Baptized? (Identity Politics)
In this episode, we talk baptism once more as the Reverend Dr. Kevin Adams returns to discuss Chapter 7, “Identity Politics”, from his book Living Under Water. This episode explores the tensions between the pitfalls of nationalism and a baptized patriotism, the language of love of country and the ways baptism gives us a primary identity. Plus, there’s a mention of sewer systems, a sneeze that wasn’t edited out and an opening discussion of Matt’s Muppets story so you know you want to listen!
If you want to read along with us, you can purchase a copy of Kevin's book online here.

60: Why Was I Baptized? (Renouncing Evil)
In this episode, the Reverend Dr. Kevin Adams returns to discuss the fourth chapter of his book Living Under Water titled “Renouncing Evil.” They discuss why the devil is part of the baptismal liturgy, the ways that baptism reminds us of the personal nature of evil and how we are invited into a life of renunciation.
If you want to read along with us, you can purchase a copy of Kevin's book online here.

59: Why Was I Baptized? (Baptism as Script)
In this episode, the Reverend Dr. Kevin Adams joins Aaron and Matt to discuss the first chapter of his book Living Under Water titled "The Script." They talk about baptism as a script, what it means to move beyond the idea of baptism as one-time event and the surprises that come of living the life of faith in this way. Plus, a whole lot more.
If you want to read along with us, you can purchase a copy of Kevin's book online here.

Coming Soon...
Matt and Aaron talk about what they're going to be exploring (along with the Reverend Dr. Kevin Adams) this Spring as they look at his new book Living Under Water: Baptism as a Way to Life.
Join us in reading the book and check out Chapter 1 so you are ready for our upcoming conversation.

58: A Very (x5) Curious Christmas
It is Curious Church’s almost-annual Christmas episode as we ring in the season with Our List and the very traditional Curious Christmas Quiz. There’s very little that’s serious in this feast of an episode, so sit back, grab a mug of hot cocoa and enjoy the jollification.
A big thanks to the Reverend Dr. Kevin Adams and new guest of the podcast Amy Langle for joining Aaron and Matt for the merriment.

57: Where Do We Go From Here? (Hope)
In this episode, the Reverend Dr. Kevin Adams joins Aaron and Matt to explore what it means to hope in a season where the goal posts seem to be endlessly shifting. They discuss the difference between hope and optimism, the relationship between our hopes in science and our hope in God and much more. Plus, a wide ranging and very diverse segment of things we like in “I Like It.”
Mentioned in this episode:
Peter Kelder’s themes in the Lord’s Supper Podcast: Nathan Foster talks to Rebecca Willard Heatley
56: Where Do We Go From Here? (Online Worship)
Dr. Libby Backfish joins Aaron and Matt for a conversation about online worship. You’ll hear honest wrestling with honoring the good and the gift of technology while also trying to process the compelling need for us to gather together in-person. If that’s not enough to entice you to dive in, you’ll also hear unexpected discussions of time zones and a special segment called “Eat a Green Thing.”
Want to write in and share some of your own reflections about online worship? Email us at curiouschurch@granitesprings.org.

55: Where Do We Go From Here? (Community)
In this episode, Kyu joins Matt and Aaron to talk about community and its various dimensions. They talk about the ways that even during a pandemic, community deepens through people sharing more openly, and through shared experiences and touchstones. But they also talk about the ways that formative communities have suffered and the challenge of returning to a life sacrificed for others.
Plus, they share some things they like!
Mentioned in this episode:
The cheetah and dog at the San Diego Zoo. Elastic straps to hold the fitted sheet in place (this is just an example, not necessarily what Aaron has!). Uncle Jim's Worm Farm (where Matt got his composting worms). Some information from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration on how snow is formed. More from Eberhard Arnold (there's also a link partway down the page where you can learn more about him).
54: Where Do We Go From Here? (Challenges)
Aaron and Matt begin exploring our question for the Fall by discussing what it means to honestly name the pandemic season as a loss and how grieving those losses can help shape us. They discuss the loneliness of the season, some concrete losses they have experienced in church life as well as the way Psalm 13 can help us hold these realities in tension with the hope of God's love. Plus, there's still room for some fun as they discuss cooking, beefs (and beef) and Matt gets a little too vulnerable.
Mentioned in the episode:
This post on Instagram from Kelly Powers. This survey in Nature. This survey of Protestants with respect to how churches have managed COVID.
53: A Curious Summer Road Trip

52: Curious About Sincerity in Worship

51: Curious About Sabbathing in Place

50: Live from Two Closets - Curious Church Podcast

49: Curious About Tensions in Calling

48: A Very (x4) Curious Christmas
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47: Curious About Faith and the Creeds
Plus: A List from Matt.
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46: Curious about Faith and Doubt
Plus: I Like It!
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45: Curious About Faith and Trust
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44: Curious About Psalms and Community
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43: Curious About Bible Translations
Also: What's Your Beef?
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42: Curious Church - Summerized
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41: Curious About Children and Communion

40: Curious About Ordo

39: Curious About Play

38: Curious About Everyday Leadership
In this episode, Dr. David Timms joins the podcast. Dr. Timms is the Dean of the School of Christian Leadership and the Faculty of Theology at William Jessup University. We talk about Transformational Leadership, a particular way of thinking about...

37: Curious About God's Calling - Curious Church Podcast
In this episode, Kyu Hahn joins the Curious Church Podcast for the first (how is that possible?!) time. We talk about God's calling, some thoughts on what it is, how it impacts our lives, and how we might walk through life when we don't have...

36: Curious About Baptismal Identity - Curious Church Podcast
What is baptismal identity? What does it mean to be baptized? Is it possible for baptism to be something that unites us rather than divide us? What about all the "details" of baptism? Plus, hear a little bit about how baptism became so...

35: A Very Very Very Curious Christmas - Curious Church Podcast
It's a Christmas Miracle! Through the wonders of Santa's technology, Sam Gutierrez returns for merriment and encouragement as we tip our hat to the meaty conversations of the year by only having segments (dessert!). Featuring a generic list, and...

34: Curious About Centering Prayer - Curious Church Podcast
In this episode, we are joined by Marc Holland, Pastor of City Life Church, who helps us talk about something he is excited, but unqualified to talk about (in his own words). We talk about Centering...

33.5: Extra - The Wedding - Curious Church Podcast
We're bringing this to you a little while after it happened, but this is all whipped cream on a delicious hot chocolate of a podcast, so no one is complaining. Right? In this Curious Extra, Matt and Aaron debrief (via a list, of course) the...

33: Still Curious About Worship - Curious Church Podcast
Matt and Aaron (yes, just the two of them) talk about worship planning, what goes into it, and how that can impact worship on a Sunday morning. It's all a bit (a lot) mysterious as they talk about the way God meets us in worship.
Also in...

32: Curious About Transitions - Curious Church Podcast
We're back. Libby Backfish (no pun intended with that first line and Libby's last name) joins us again to talk about transitions. As we head into the Fall, what does it look like to transition well, how do we both grieve losses and move forward,...

31: Curious About Being Curious - Curious Church Podcast
It's our Summer Segment Spectacular Sam Sendoff. Yes, that's right, it's our saddest episode to date because it's our last one with Sam as a cohost. Sam shares some thoughts on the original vision of the podcast and what it means to be...

30: Curious About Violent Entertainment (Part 2) - Curious Church Podcast
In this continued conversation, Aaron, Sam and Matt talk again with Dr. Brad Swope, Pastor of Horizon Community Church and Adjunct Professor at William Jessup University. Brad delves more deeply...

29: Curious about Violent Entertainment (Part 1) - Curious Church Podcast
In this episode, Aaron, Sam and Matt are joined by Dr. Brad Swope, Pastor of Horizon Community Church and Adjunct Professor at William Jessup University. They talk about some reflections from his...

28: Curious About Faith and Leadership - Curious Church Podcast
In this episode, Aaron, Sam and Matt are joined by Jillayne Antoon, Director of Growth and Community Engagement for the Rocklin Academy Family of Schools, to talk about what leading looks like in the public sphere and how her faith impacts that...

27: Curious About Ordinary Time - Curious Church Podcast
In this episode, the Curious Church Crew talks about Ordinary Time and what this season of the Church calendar means for our faith and practice (hint: it's not really that ordinary). They also talk about how to pronounce Aaron's last name and...

26: Curious About Emotional Health - Curious Church Podcast
This episode features Kelly Powers who, with expertise in student care and a background in counseling psychology, talks to the Curious Church crew about emotionally healthy spirituality. It is obviously a much needed conversation (for the podcast...

25: Curious About Joy - Curious Church Podcast
We recently talked with Father Chris Flesoras about Lent and suffering (Episode 23), so it only felt appropriate to talk about joy now that we have experienced Easter! We talk about what we think joy is (and is not) and how we can begin to enter...

24: Curious About Psalm 8 - Curious Church Podcast
Have you ever wondered what it would sound like if parts of the podcast was recorded by chipmunks? You're in luck! This is your chance. Sorry for the audio glitches, but there's still plenty of good (and intelligible) stuff packed in here....

23: Curious About Lent - Curious Church Podcast
In this episode, Father Chris Flesoras of Saint Anna's Greek Orthodox Church (in Roseville) joins the podcast to talk about Lent. We dive right into the deep end, but hang with it, for there are some "knowledge bombs" (as Sam refers to...

22: Reading the Old Testament - Curious Church Podcast
In this episode, Curious Church sits down with Libby Backfish who is Assistant Professor at William Jessup University, teaching Old Testament among other subjects. We talk with her about how Christians should think about the Old Testament (is it...

21: A Very Very Curious Christmas - Curious Church Podcast
In this episode, the podcast serves up the kind of segment dessert that can only follow a full year's meal of serious segments. Okay, so we've had plenty of not-serious segments, but this episode goes all the way: a rather bizarre list (just...

20: Should We Keep the Sabbath? (Part 2) - Curious Church Podcast
In this episode, the Curious Church Crew gives a shoutout to some listeners, goes over the worst "days" (in Matt's estimation), and returns to our Sabbath discussion to talk about whether the Sabbath is a requirement or not. It's a good one,...

19: Disney, Vision, and Who We Are - Curious Church Podcast
In this episode, the Curious Church Crew talk beefs, hymns, our 20th episode (despite the fact that this is actually our 19th), and how Disney and its theme parks can help us think through Christian authenticity and what makes it unique. Yes, all...

18: Can God Handle Our Questions? - Curious Church Podcast
This week, Kevin Adams returns to the Curious Church Podcast to continue to talk about the Psalms and how they teach us about life with God. This episode looks more closely at Psalm 13 as both a model of our posture before God - something that is...

17: Should We Keep the Sabbath? - Curious Church Podcast
Ever wondered whether the Sabbath was still relevant? Ever wondered what a "proper" Sabbath looks like? Well, so do we. On this episode, the regular Curious Church crew talks, asks, and debates Sabbath. We hope you'll join the...

16: Books That Will Shape You - Curious Church Podcast
This week, the Reverend Doctor Kevin Adams returns to discuss books that will shape you (and have shaped us). It's a conversation for book nerds, but hopefully there's something in there for the audio-only-philes as well. :)
Segments: I...

15: Church Membership - Curious Church Podcast
In a transient world where people are moving and transitioning all the time, is membership in a local church still relevant? This week the Curious Church crew explores the subject.
Segments: Aaron brings us his list of top childhood...

14: Spiritual Formation - Curious Church Podcast
In this episode, the Curious Church Podcast crew talks about spiritual formation. Sam helps us think through how we balance working with God with being formed by God, biblical images that help us understand what shape we might expect our...

13: Engaging the Bible - Curious Church Podcast
In this episode, the Curious Church Podcast crew talks about what it means for the Bible to be authoritative and how we can begin to engage it more deeply.
Segments: The return of everyone's favorite segment (we don't even need to tell...

12: Interpreting the Bible - Curious Church Podcast
In this week's episode, the Curious Church Podcast crew talks about interpreting the Bible and what are some of the most helpful first steps (as well as pitfalls). Does everyone need to know Greek or Hebrew? Can you ever just pick up your Bible...

11: Technology - Curious Church Podcast
In this week's episode, the Curious Church Podcast sits down with Lauren Hunter, founder of Church Tech Today and writer at Words + Worship. The conversations...

10: Engaging Visual Art - Curious Church Podcast
In this week's episode, the Curious Church Podcast sits down with Betsy Steele Halstead, from the Calvin Institute for Christian Worship, to talk about...

9: Creativity, Songwriting, & Worship - Curious Church Podcast
In this episode, the podcast crew has a wide-ranging conversation about creativity, songwriting and the place of those in the church and worship. All this and the return of "What's Your Beef?" and "I Like It!"
To hear more of Aaron's...

8: Psalms & Beauty - Curious Church Podcast
In this episode, the podcast crew is joined by Dr. Kevin Adams to talk about Psalm 27 and the significance of beauty in the Christian life - the way it satisfies our souls, and spurs us on to social justice. Plus, a new segment!
You can...

7: A Very Curious Christmas - Curious Church Podcast
In this episode, Aaron, Sam and Matt are joined by Dr. Kevin Adams for a Christmas extravaganza, a palooza of segments, and a bonanza of merriment. We hope you enjoy. Oh, and see how many questions of the quiz you get right!
As always, you...

6: Welcoming Worship - Curious Church Podcast
In this episode, Aaron, Sam and Matt continue the conversation about worship, exploring how leaders can make a curious place like church inviting to those on the outside and why hospitality matters for all of us.
And, what would the...

5: Slowing Down in Worship - Curious Church Podcast
In this episode, Aaron, Sam and Matt talk about how we think about worship and its pacing - both within services as well as how a broader vision of how worship forms us over time.
Plus, some now-classic segments: "What's Your Beef" and...

4: Learning to Listen - Curious Church Podcast
On this episode, Sam, Aaron, and Matt sit down with Jay Wilson, the Director of Pastoral Care at City Church San Francisco. Drawing on Jay's expertise, they talk about how to listen well to...

3: Youth Ministry - Curious Church Podcast
On this episode, Sam, Aaron, and Matt sit down with Chris Ivens, Resident Pastor at Granite Springs, to hear about his 18 years in Youth Ministry, the things that have changed, and what is important to keep in mind when working with youth.
...
2: Psalms & Enemies - Curious Church Podcast
On this episode, Sam, Aaron, and Matt talk to Dr. Kevin Adams, Lead Pastor of Granite Springs Church about what the Psalms teach us about enemies.
And, of course, there's fun to be had in some segments: "Oliverisms" and "What's Your...

1: Introduction - Curious Church Podcast
Join hosts Aaron Antoon, Sam Gutierrez, and Matt Timms to find out a little of what this podcast might be (no promises!).
Also hear them talk about what their beef is and something that's astonished each of them recently!