The Daily HiFi Podcast Nov 13, 2019
Different Mixing Styles For Home Theater!
SACT code for Holiday Sale, EARMUFFS15.
JBL Bar 1000! Auro 3D comes to Shield. Which AVRs allow delays, volume and crossovers after Dirac? Mixing for home, object based mixes vs channel based mixes? Worth an upgrade to 11 channel receiver?
Joe Says To Channa "Start Climbing Those Ladders!!!"
Joe made a video about height speakers and used Channa as a demonstration tool. Sometimes running speaker wire leads you to a position less than ideal. Negative reviews or positive reviews? What does adding more subs do to system response? Is an 18dB cut to much when calibrating? Acoustic treatment, needed?
Joe's Video: https://youtu.be/o_EpJr6yRyU?si=nWb7g5eNh4RQC9ur
Channa's Latest Video: https://youtu.be/ySC-IxRcmFg?si=0rRi_TfYIIPoyi8p
Erin's Latest Video: https://youtu.be/-q4VkErtoAQ?si=EiCMn9BKaCzHewQH
Joe And Channa And A Few Of The After Show Crew Members: Jay, Fred And Scott!
We talk their three systems and what they have in them. We also talk about the sale for Audyssey MultEQ-X. Jay describes what is inside the Monolith Subwoofer and what the amp says!!??!! Erin put out a video about ignorance is bliss and we discuss that video. If reviewers give good reviews for inexpensive stuff and even better reviews for more expensive stuff because it is more pricey, is that doing the viewers justice. Fred talks about Magic Beans and his take on the results.
The Dragon Review Is In!!!
Ealan brings his findings on the Nakamichi Dragon! Sonos and Sony HT-A9 are compared to the Dragon. Spatial Audio Calibration Toolkit and why it is needed. Erin shows a CD collection, then Ealan shows his collection! We talk some best movies that are new. Tripoles, what are they?
Proving Its Worth!!!
Do you collect DVD/Blu-Ray/4K Blu-ray? Do you have a wall of discs? Joe doesn't like physical media! Target had a big sale on Monolith speakers! Arendal in house at Joe's place! Spatial Audio Calibration Toolkit (SACT) comes to the rescue! AV10 wasn't outputting a signal to front wides! The SACT disc showed the Dolby Atmos decoder in the AV10 needed a setting changed/reset. REW goes to 5.3, with lots of updates! Room EQ Wizard is a free program for home theater testing, but do send him some money if you get use out of it!
Fred Goes Big With A Projector And 143" Screen!
Fred, one of our viewers and Daily HiFi After Show Crew Members, goes big with his screen! Would you leave OLED behind for a projector? Or If you could buy an affordable 120" OLED would you give up your projector? Channa gets Joe to go 4K and Atmos on a streaming service! We also discuss desktop powered speakers from Kanto and Vanatoo. Joe reviewed the Kanto ORA here: https://youtu.be/LGOhFLLTvCk?si=tJ8wOm5-JmKl5D7g. SINAD is it overrated to a point? Or is it the only sign of a good amp or preamp? R_volution picks up where the Zappiti left off. SVS PB2000pro vs a RSL 12S!
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DSP For Subwoofers Yay Or Nay?
Erin talks car audio and a unique solution to being off center in a car or truck. DSP for Subwoofers, and more specifically would you want it or not and what about dynamic DSP EQ? Return on investment of audio/video gear? How do you look at price and how does that factor into your buying decisions? In the light of psychical media not at Best Buy any more, is streaming going to get better? Let's hope so!!! Channa is going to get the Dragon from Nakamichi after all!
Dirac ART (Active Room Treatment) Coming To Denon???
Is Dirac ART the next best thing since sliced bread. Or an over promise of a "improvement" for audio? Is Sony Pictures Core streaming service almost as good as discs? Now that Core is on the PS4 and PS5 are you buying either for playing back 80Mb streaming that core offers? 11.1.6 is a thing! Will it be your thing?
Zappiti Is Zaput!
Zappiti is shuttering its doors, some of the main hardware/software features might become unusable. Erin does not like some speakers! Personal bias is ¿bad?, but does not everyone have bias to some effect. Joe reviews the B5 Monolith. REL subwoofer in for review with Erin, JL review done. Spatial Group releases 5.1 and Binaural recordings by Joe and Channa on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@SpatialGroup . Sony takes top 4K and LG takes top 8K at Robert Zohn's Value Electronics TV shoot out.
SAT Go - A More Affordable Spatial Audio Calibration Toolkit
SAT Go via Artist Connection App: https://share.artistconnection.net/content/8JaDsJ Well here we are with another product release! SAT Go, or Spatial Audio Toolkit Go! You will need to click the link above, and you will be taken to a download for the Artist Connection App. There hit the top left back button then the hamburger and finally click on explore. There you should see the Early Bird Special price of $59.99 for SAT Go. There are some test tracks there as well. Cast those from your phone or mobile device to your android box or Apple TV to make sure they are playing ok, but be sure to play the lossy test tracks only as they are the only ones that will play correctly. The app is a little iffy because it's more in the early stages development that's on them, but our product once playing is solid. Leave a comment if you have any questions on how to do all this, we will help as needed. Thanks for watching, and we hope there are some that will enjoy the less expensive toolkit. And a reminder this plays by even a Chrome Cast or Nvidia Shield or Apple TV, so have at it!
We also talk Kaleidescape, bumping old music, up firing speakers vs on ceiling or in ceiling, also a little bit on Magic Beans!
Zone 2 & Zone 3 Grinds Channa Right Up Into A Rant!
Zone 2 or Zone 3, yah or nah for you? Are you a Kaleidescape or Zidoo type of person? Or are you liking the Discs that you have collected and use those exclusively for movie watching? Erin hasn't had the time to tune his car system but its coming. Joe is getting some Arendal speakers! Like 900+ hundred pounds of them. Erin points out buying the "right" speakers can help with not having to buy acoustic panels!
Ike Goes To CEDIA And He Wants $100,000 To Buy A...
If you went to a CEDIA show and some how got $100,000 to spend at the show, what would you buy? Ike knows what he wants, but alas little out of his price range. Joe talks about a 144 page CEDIA paper, RP22 speaker placement guideline! YIKES, 144 pages! Ike also is setting up a pair of SVS dual 8 inch in wall subs! Monolith T5 tower on sale for $89!!! Can you say 7 ear level speakers for less than $700?!?
Magic Beans Audio Announces: True Target
SACT (spatial audio calibration toolkit) was only the beginning, additional things are coming!!! Keep a watch out for those things! Also Magic Beans Audio is announcing True Target!!! Erin tweaked his back again. Erin and Joe talk about Klipsch The Sevens, specifically Erins review! CEDIA is about to ramp up! Anthony Grimani is glad Channa and Joe made the SACT, so he wouldn't have to!!! Channa breaks wind, or at least his PA speaker does!
Channa Has Thoughts About Some Genelec Speakers!
Channa is talked down from the Genelec monitors. Joe has a second event and talks about future events in Southern California. Joe got to hear the JBL 4329P, and is wowed! But to reel it in he compared them to the the Kali LP-6 V2, what was better? Klippel or REW ghetto spinorama?
Erin wants bass in his car! Joe gets through Hilary!
Erin and Joe discuss the Monolith THX certified compact system. Viewers ask Joe if he survived hurricane Hilary. Also Erin talks about his car system upgrade. How many amps did he go with?!? Wow! They also reminisce about MP3 players of old. 32MB player? Mega Byte!
Joe's SoCal Event and Channa Goes Mixing!
Channa went to Sweetwater in Indiana for a Atmos mixing class! Joe holds an event demoing magic beans and other things in SoCal. Tim (our Daily HiFi video editor) also joins in this show at Joe's. Chris Walker from Elac was at Joe's event so was Justin Zazzi from Harman. Channa shops for speakers after Sweetwater mix class! Joe took questions at his event on his app, Magic Beans.
Audio Advice Live Rundown From Channa!
Channa takes us on a tour of Audio Advice Live, 2023. Erin Brings up that he has the Monolith THX Compact satellites.
Just A Little Tease???
Dirac changes long lived crossover point for one of our viewers! Joe got some Pioneer up firing speakers and they have an odd trait. Joe talks about a sub that is musical??? Erin doesn't see "Designed by Erin Speakers" anytime soon. And Channa teases something coming from himself and Joe!!!
Nakamichi Dragon Is For Whom?
Nackamichi Dragon is for the right person! Is that you? Is Channa going to Sweetwater for an Atmos mixing master class? Channa and perhaps Erin are going to audio advice live! Zappiti is gone? And Zidoo is gone? Say what! MBL speakers website that we were talking about: https://www.mbl.de/en/loudspeakers . Definitive Technology DM70 set to small or large? Car subs in home theater or no?
Channa: The ER Episode
Erin sent screen shot to his Mom when Sean Olive called him out on being what a speaker reviewer should be! Congrats to Erin! MWAVE went down this past weekend. Tweeter differences, and how they interact in room. Studio monitors with bluetooth? "Harman Target Curve" vs what magic beans finds to be the target curve! And yes Channa joined us for awhile from the ER this episode! Level matching the proper way?
Brent And Dennis, The Audio Unleashed Guys!
Brent And Dennis were all too kind to come onto Daily HiFi and talk as long as they did! We talked their history and where they worked. Also talked in depth of testing subwoofers. Disturbing trends for reviews came up as well. In room predictions from a Klippel vs real world measurements! Brent talks being threatened for honest reviews on the bad equipment. Also Dennis and Brent share their long list of equipment they have in their respective systems!
Audio Unleashed is a podcast that Brent Butterworth and Dennis Burger do and can be found in the links below!
Brent and Dennis can be found here:
Joe Digs A Very Deep Hole!!!
Billy buys some KEF R3 Meta because of Erin's recent review. Channa learned from a young age that hifi is fun and equipment matters. Joe would love to bridge the gap from measurements matter to the only what you hear matters camps. Erin takes pause with shopping hifi shops, vs hearing what you would hear in your room. And finally Joe digs a hole, a big giant hole!
Brent Butterworth and Dennis Burger will join us July 10th on YouTube.
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Channa Demonstrates An Atmos Mix Live On Youtube!
Channa's link to his upcoming (as of this posting) live stream mixing session:
Magic Beans and calibrated mics? Is there a rumored second SACT or at least available to more people? Minimum number of height speakers?
Ed Mullen From SVS Drops A Ton Of Knowledge In This Podcast!!!
Ed talks MSO (Multi Sub Optimizer). Also he discusses subwoofer placement. We also go over eq and why nulls can't be corrected period. Phase response and phase rotation. Full range? Ummmm, you really still need a crossover on every speaker. Small speakers are a VAST majority in speakers out there! Double bass, what is it, do you want it? DSP latency of SVS subwoofers? Is a system 7.4.6 or really 7.1.6 with 4 subwoofers? Nick from SVS briefly stops in too! He also does a quick lightening round with questions from our YouTube Viewers towards the end.
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Cory From Paducah Home Theater Joins Us!
Cory fields a few questions from our YouTube Audience! Also Cory goes over a little on how his shop carries everything from beginning of the audio chain like guitars to the end of the audio chain with the likes of Perlisten Speakers. What a shop!
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Apple replaces all Projectors And TVs? For $3,500 per person!
Apple previews Vision Pro "spatial vision". Ed Mullen from SVS is going to be on the show soon. Erin is looking for HDMI speakers that are under $500, if a sound bar can be $140, why not some speakers? DIY subwoofers, are ALWAYS better? Maybe not? SACT Spatial Audio Calibration Toolkit is doing well. Dreamedia is doing a man cave make over for a guy who broke his back, very touching videos for the makeover! Flat anechoic is not flat in room! And you don't want flat in room! Erin buys a FRFR speaker, Full Range, Flat Response? Does something like that exist? Daily HiFi merch is coming!!!
What are ok apartment subwoofers? Join the discord for the spacial audio calibration toolkit, link to that comes with the kit purchase. Shout out to Reverend Slim, for all he does in that discord group. EQ'ng speakers or is it Room Correction? MoFi point source speakers and concentric speakers in general, problem areas. Pro sound speakers disconnect from what we use at home. Do companies care? Spears and Munsil disc? Does one need to recalibrate with new couch or furniture layout?
Channa Wears A Sweater Pool Side! Joe Goes To Sound United!
Kali, Q acoustics, and Bowers & Wilkins. Channa is pool side wearing a sweater. Joe measures the Sound United demo room. Erin wants to measure taller speakers. and just might be able too, SOON! Erin likes speakers that can be shaped to the right curve, and Joe wants something that is more correct out of the box. Joe explains a little more about Magic Beans. Erin shares that he has 10 pair of speakers in for review!!! Whew! Including MoFi Electronics - SourcePoint 10 Bookshelf Speakers. Joe says he has perfect app developer! Erin's measurements for the Behringer's passive $179 PA speaker.
A Great Conversation With Anthony Grimani!
This is a must listen! Anthony talks about the time he made a test DVD disc. Also talks about his time at Dolby! He covers what we can hear vs what we can measure. And also takes the time to talk about the 4 things we can do to make speakers sound better in a room! Anthony goes on to share about why mics are just part of the equation is testing speakers, our ears are the rest of the equation! He also goes on with why off axis is just as important as direct sound from a speaker.
Erin Measures Triad In Room Gold!
Erin sees if the Triad In Room Gold measure up! Using Audyssey and miniDSP together. Setting phase of subwoofers in main listening position. Wisdom Audio called Joe about the SACT (Spatial Audio Calibration Toolkit) and using it for tests. Anthem ARC or Dirac. 3800H as a preamp. Dynaudio and matching Atmos speakers to them? Magic Beans and the SACT, can they work together? Tim (our video editor) confesses that his subwoofers have not been calibrated yet, that he has had those subs for weeks now. Matching subs in a home theater? miniDSP two channel and two subs?
Do manufacturers get it all correct?!!?
Do you all have identical speakers all the way around? Bed layer and heights or just front three? Or not even the front three? Did you know some manufacturers do not get everything right, like basic math? Can Denon and Marantz adjust phase for all 4 subwoofer outs on the newer models? Panning laws in digital audio workstation software, is not standard!!! Erin is thankful to have a Klippel in his dinning room? Joe turns into a life coach!
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Magic Beans Beta Signup!
Magic Beans beta signup now live, link below! Denon/Marantz newer firmware. JVC projectors blacks. Buttkicker Mini install, which amp? BIC PL300 VS used better sub, or reel in those expectations? Michael gets a MadVR setup! Reviewer bias, does everyone acknowledge their bias? Perlisten to Monolith Encore!
Magic Beans Beta Sign: https://joentell.com/mb-beta/
Our ol' friends at Kali have been up to something, and the speakers look sweet!
Erin ponders an audio precision unit. Kali has a $2,000 for a pair of desktop studio monitors, we can't wait to get our hands on some! MoFi also introduces a 8" version of their very large 10" bookshelf speakers. Joe gets a JBL car amp/processor from yesteryear so he can get a center channel out in his car. One of our watchers (Fred) gets some Arendal speakers and is shocked how good they are! Even though Erin tested them and they tested well! Can you use an older receiver as a two channel amp? Or would a two channel amp be better? Lies, lies, and more lies; sensitivity ratings explained! Axpona, too much of a two channel show? Tidal is losing MQA? Erin is going to sing at next audio show? Channa is looking for subs, that look good and has great out put? Oh they have to be small too!!!
Kali Audio New Passive Speakers: https://www.kaliaudio.com/santa-monica-sm-5-c
Michael's Speaker Journey Is Over?!?
Erin's Tesla has Spatial Audio. Michael is ALL JTR now with addition of eight 110HT SL 10inch speakers, and he says he is done with his speaker journey??? Schiit Audio adds a surround sound matrix processor/dac/headphone amp, say what!!! Joe's client adds Helmholtz resonator's for bass traps and takes out frequencies that might not have needed to be taken out! IOM classic premium mono, class D amp! Can Joe and Family find out which sub is playing pink noise? Joe's Magic Beans is coming, trust him! Trinov has a new update!
RSL Might Just Have A Hit Subwoofer With The 12S Subwoofer!
12S RSL Subwoofer! What speakers are in our systems? Where do acoustical panels go? Projector vs TV? A weighting or do you want to use C weighting? Subwoofer not turning on? Magic Beans are still on the way!
What Do We Upmix And To What?
What do we up mix and to what: Auro, Dolby Surround, DTS? Calibration that works for all seats? Or just (MLP) Main Listening Position? Onkyo previews the RZ70! Denon and Marantz update breaks some stuff? What movies made us cry in sadness or in laughter? Calibration levels in dB?
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Magic Beans Are Coming Soon To A Screen NEAR You, PC, Mac, iOS, and Android!!! Erin starting to test amps!!!
Joes MagicBeans app is getting there! Erin is starting to test things with an Audio Precision unit, first up amps and preamp processor from McIntosh. Michael gets his snow fix for a little bit!!! Upmixing to front wides and native content for front wides. Do you think old or new speakers are the da bomb? Size of resistors that Erin uses for testing are massive, + a giant heatsink! Thanks for listening!!!
Spatial Audio Calibration Toolkit Discs Are On The Way!!! Joe's App Is Getting Towards Beta!!!
Joe's app is almost at beta testing phase woot, woot!!! Spatial Audio Calibration Toolkit discs are on the way for those that purchased a disc!!! miniDSP 2x4HD or Denon with MultEQ-X? We have a discord group for the SACT, don't forget to ask questions there! What are Joe and Michael getting for their systems next? Joe has some subs to test! Buy a new house with in ceiling speakers, and trying to figure out if they are useable?!? Sony has new receivers, but the AZ3000ES has no preouts. Zidoo or Zappiti, which one!?! Do either one of those replace an AppleTV or Roku?
Spatial Audio Calibration Toolkit: https://spatialcd.com
MWAVE is coming: https://midwestavexperience.com/
AV10, does Channa hear a difference compared to the Pioneer receiver it replaced? Joe finally replaces the tweeter in the Monolith Encore. Brand NEW 10", 12", 14" and 16" subs from Klipsch, is one of those "the beast"? NEW subs from Elac some with unique surrounds on the drivers. DSP delay from subwoofers. Denon 3800 & 4800 differences. In ceiling speakers for Atmos and for whole house?
Netflix Goes Two Channel Spatial Audio???
Netflix goes two channel spatial audio. Joe is making an app!!! Oh My!!! Subwoofer connections? Dirac Impulse and Phase? Dirac Art? Youthman deals!!! Joe knows nothing about snow! Erin hasn't snuggled with his McIntosh amp yet?
The Check Disc is in for the Spatial Audio Calibration Toolkit! Next up mass production?
Florida Audio Expo is over with, did Erin find a new speaker that he would want in his home? MWAVE part duet is coming July! Flown floating clouds for acoustic absorption? What headphones for noise cancellation, or mixing, or etc.! Directivity of subs and crossover frequency. What makes movie theater popcorn, movie theater popcorn. And we find out that Joe can press 2 or 3 bags of popcorn, maybe, if he is lucky, in low gravity!!!
Super Bowl LVII is in the books and we talk about the video quality, audio quality, and baby bumps!!!
We also talk about Spatial Audio Calibration Toolkit, and why it might be late for the Disc to get to you. Erin gets a sound bar to go with his McIntosh amp, wait what? Ok maybe it's not for that use! Also the company behind Zapitti is coming out with a top of the line 4k player called the Magnetar! Note they are the same people behind the Reavon players, will that work out for them, having two lines of 4K UHD Blu-ray players?
Joe says we all have too many speakers?!? And what are Michael's end game speakers?
What's this about Joe saying we have too many speakers? Brad from home theater gamer on YouTube, reviews the Spatial Audio Calibration Toolkit! What are Michael's favorite end game speakers?
Brad's review of the SACT: https://youtu.be/l33Dmxq18v0
No Perfect TV?!? Michael tours a Star Wars themed home theater! Monolith or Polk?
Is there a perfect TV? Micheal tours a Star Wars themed home theater that just wow'd Michael! Monolith C6 (center speaker vertically orientated) or Polk R200? 3D 4K? Is there such a thing? Will there ever be such a thing? Getting the right micro fiber for TV's and glossy speakers? (links below)
From Channa about what he uses for microfiber cloths:
"I use the 1100 pile for wiping the TV's and I use the 600 pile for holding/moving the TVs. The 700 pile is best for my stainless steel range."
We Talk SVS Or Klipsch Towers!!! And so much more!!!
Which towers for our listener, Klipsch RP-6000F II or SVS Prime Pinnacle? Going down memory lane: the Audio Control Epicenter, and dot matrix RTA!!! Monolith new MTM desktop speakers? miniDSP 2x4HD and subwoofer integration? TVs, better or bigger? Older receiver upgrade will our listener notice a difference upgrading?
Thanks for listening!!!!
Joe And Channa Talk Spatial Audio Calibration Toolkit! Measurements First Or Listening First As A Reviewer?
Joe And Channa Talk Spatial Audio Calibration Toolkit! Measurements First Or Listening First As A Reviewer?
Where to get the Spatial Audio Calibration Toolkit: https://spatialcd.com/
CES 2023 is in the books, and Joe talks Dirac Live Active Room Treatment!!!
Ealan joins us again. CES is in the books and Channa and Ealan get lost there trying to find Auro3D! But they do find Nakamichi, JBL/Harman and a few others! Joe is released from NDA and can finally talk Dirac's Active Room Treatment! Joes says it works, but raises a few questions along the way. We learn that Erin still has a McIntosh amp in plastic!
Just How Much Amplifier Power Do You Need?
Michael wears a beanie! Tom Cruise and his crazy stunts! How much power do you really need for various speakers? SVS SB Ultra 13 or SVS SB3000? Channa gets some crocs! Merry Christmas if you are still celebrating and have a Happy New Year!!!
Jaremy From YouTube's Techthusiasm Joins Us This Week! Talks Trinnov And Anthem AVM70 & AVM90!
Jaremy joins us and talks spending three months with a Trinnov. Also we talk Anthem AVM70 & AVM90. Jaremy also talks having an Epson LS12000! Apple TV and Infuse. Getting rid of hum. We go into cables and whether Jaremy passed a blind test. Erin is getting some McIntosh in for review. Channa calls briefly! Also can you stack EQ filters?
Joe And Channa Are Releasing New Product During A Live Stream! Tune In Thursday 11am PT December 15, 2022. Live Stream Links Included!
Tune in Thursday December 15th 2022 for a product launch, links below! Christmas Movies anyone? Joe goes 7.1.4 in a 10'x10' room!!! Projector shoot out at Value Electronics! 40hz for a crossover point? Audio Technic tone arm, and what needle, and counter balance. 30 degree angles for left and right speakers? Is that still the best with 7 base layer speakers. Channa's quick takes on some of his receivers. What is perception of a small room for various speakers? Michael joined us late but is buying a 85" TV for the first time in 15 years. Michael might be going to Dubai for a home theater tour with a 9.12.6 setup!
Joe’s Thursday Live Stream Link: https://youtu.be/1J2DcBkmOz0
Channa's Thursday Live Stream Link: https://youtu.be/yKCASCHSpAk
Set those YouTube links to notify you so you don't miss the live stream!