The Dauntless Grace Exchange

(Content warning: trafficking, abuse, and the commercial sex industry)

Trafficking survivor Ashley Chesney joins us on the podcast to discuss healing after trauma. She breaks down a little of her own story and then tells us some truths and misconceptions about trafficking, how we can move towrads those with complex trauma, and how there is always hope for a new story.

Kelsie Olds, The Occuplaytional Therapist, joins the podcast today to talk about the importance of play - and not just for children! Kelsie addresses misconceptions and truths around what play actually is. We also talk about how we all learn, how we can overcome trauma, and how we can re-parent ourselves through play.

Kelsie is both an occupational therapist and The Occuplaytional Therapist - working offline in elementary schools with children and doing online advocacy with caregivers and professionals.

Deedra and Megan returned from another Dauntless Grace enneagram retreat, and they recap their favorite things about their retreats, how they got started, and how you can join in on the fun! Also, don't miss their story about staying the night in a literal treehouse in the California redwoods, and why they definitely were not prepared for that adventure.

Show notes:

What's the best path toward integration and wholeness for each enneagram type? It's making moves that pull up your repressed center and give you strategic ways to use your connecting lines and widen your focus of attention.

Also, Megan shares her biggest lifetime regret in this episode...and Deedra just laughs. Plus, what they really think about Winnie the Pooh.

Show notes:

Deedra and Megan talk through Sabbath in this episode: what is it? why should we practice it? and why might it be different for us all? Then they break it down by enneagram type and give practical suggestions for how to enter into soul rest.

Deedra and Megan talk through the rest of the stress signals for enneagram numbers Five, Six, Seven, Eight, and Nine. Plus, they do a deep dive into their personal theories on Eights in stress, and they try their hardest not to talk about Ones and Fours again (but they fail).

Deedra and Megan work through the stress signals of enneagram numbers One, Two, Three, and Four. What happens when each number starts to feel stressed? What does it look like to move towards stress numbers?

Megan and Deedra spend some time processing what life is like post 40, after learning about IFS, and gaining new levels of healing. As they talk about their own journey with parts of themselves, they realize that there is a fine line between resignation and contentment, and sometimes parts that are silent are really failing to thrive.

Notes:

Deedra and Megan go back to basics in this episode to talk about why they use the enneagram, why they think it's important, and why it doesn't contradict the beliefs of Christians. In fact, the enneagram paired with the Gospel is an incredible tool for sanctification!

Notes:

Enneagram teacher Joan Ryan joins the podcast again to discuss the parts of being a Nine, along with so much more! Listen as she explores:

• the trailheads to look for when finding your parts
• the healing messages exiles need to hear
• main differences between Fours and Nines
• how the gut/anger center is similar and different for Eights, Nines, and Ones
• difference in the focus of attention for Twos and Nines
• self-energy versus self-like parts

Joan is a wealth of information, and you don't want to miss her expertise!

Skye Harmon joins the podcast to discuss what it means to be an enneagram Five. She, Megan, and Deedra talk about the differences between Fours and Fives, what it means to visualize an Internal Family Systems (IFS) experience, and how Skye uses Seven and Eight energy to help herself.

Carolyn Candela joins Megan and Deedra as they talk about all the parts of being an enneagram Four. They really dig into the nuance of how Fours are different from Twos and Threes, and Carolyn shares some parts she's discovered through her IFS work.

Carolyn Candela is a Yoga Instructor and Life Coach located in Bend, Oregon. Carolyn's mission is to help disconnected humans live full and embodied lives through connecting to the seasons and cycles of nature. Carolyn is an Enneagram 4w3. She enjoys using the Enneagram to better understand and connect with her clients. In her free time, Carolyn enjoys reading about and studying topics that interest her (The Enneagram, Human Design, psychology, and health & wellness to name a few!), exploring nature, practicing any type of movement (yoga, dance, etc.), writing, and pursuing new creative outlets.

Deedra's youngest daughter Lela joins the podcast today to talk about being an enneagram Two and some amazing Internal Family Systems (IFS) experiences she's had. The conversation flows from identifying parts of herself in her wings and connecting lines to how amazing God is at giving her a fairy tale glimpse of his love for her. 

Internal Family Systems (IFS) therapist and podcast host Tammy Sollenberger is back to talk about one of her favorite topics: IFS and the enneagram! Tammy, Megan, and Deedra discuss using the enneagram as a map to find parts of ourselves. Every person has a constellation of parts that begin with their core enneagram number and include their wings and connecting lines. You don't want to miss this introductory episode to this brand-new series!

This week we're dropping a day early to celebrate Valentine's Day with you! But we also choose to celebrate the gal pal holiday (thanks to Park and Rec) Galentine's Day. In honor of February 13, we decide to play an on-air game of Let's Get Deep: Friends Edition by asking each other questions from the cards! 

Real talk: we don't get super deep, but we do get to tell some funny friendship stories, and we answer the following: 

• Are any of your belongings lost right now?
• What movie made the biggest impression on you?
• What conspiracy theories do you believe in?
• If you had to wear an outfit every day for the rest of your life, what would it be?
• What is the most expensive thing you’ve broken?
• When was the last time you laughed so hard you cried?
• What reality TV or game show do you think we should do together?

Deedra and Megan do what they do best today: talk about something they've recently discovered and how it plays with the enneagram! Today is all about attachment styles. Attachment styles are part of relationship theories about how infants receive care, attention, and affection from a caregiver. But our attachment styles play out all the time in our intimate adult relationships. In this episode, we define the four attachment styles, discuss how they relate to enneagram stances from last weekend, and offer a working theory on which numbers could identify with which attachment styles. 

On today’s episode, Deedra and Megan discuss enneagram stances in a new way. In episodes past, they’ve taught stances as grouping enneagram numbers by which center of intelligence is repressed. While that’s still a true part of stances, they now also agree that stances can be defined by our relational energy. Also, as part of the discussion, they consider how stance energy can also be used in our relationship to God and how sin is still more a part of the diSINtegration of our beings rather than simply a behavior we need to stop.

Last year we offered an episode straight from Highway 44--a road trip recap for our listeners! But today we have for you a recap of our recent cruise to the Bahamas. But don't worry; we aren't here just to talk about paradise islands and having fun on the cruise deck. Instead, we're offering a vulnerable look into how each of us prepared ourselves mentally and emotionally, with IFS and enneagram work, for a week's vacation and the return to real life. 

Deedra and Megan work through happiness: what is it, how do we get it, and why do we need to be aware of it? Like any emotion, happiness is neutral. It’s an indication of what is going on beneath the surface. Happiness by definition is the feeling of pleasure or contentment as the result of favorable circumstances. Happiness can be found when our Spirit-led Self experiences moments of pleasure from a whole and free existence. Happiness can also be found when our overworked managers are keeping us from pain and securing the things we think we need to survive. Listen as they run through each enneagram type and discuss what might make each type happy. Plus: they both admit which three fictional characters they relate to most!

Dr. Alison Cook joins Deedra and Megan on the 100th episode of the podcast today! One of our favorite guests, Alison is an IFS therapist and author who just released her new book, The Best of You: Break Free from Painful Patterns, Mend Your Past, and Discover Your True Self in God. Listen as they discuss: the differences between selfishness, selflessness, and selfhood; how spiritual codependence makes us bypass ourselves; using boundaries in a healthy way; determining what it is we want; shepherding the parts of ourselves.

We are celebrating the last two years--and 99 episodes--of The Dauntless Grace Exchange with some of our favorite guests, Meg and Kami! They turn the tables on Deedra and Megan and interview the hosts for the inside scoop. Listen for a behind-the-scenes view into how they create the weekly podcast. They also recap their favorite series, amazing guests, and things they've learned along the way. Plus, some faithful listeners call in to share their thoughts on the last two years!

Dauntless Grace has been on a health journey through the podcast this year. We’ve discussed: emotional health; relational health; physical health; and mental health. Megan and Deedra share where they’ve found more wholeness and areas in which they still struggle. But overall, we agree, the journey is worth it, and we break down what each enneagram number needs to hear to get started. Also, episode 100 is fast approaching, and we’ve got some awesome celebrations planned! Don’t miss out, so subscribe to the podcast today!

Carolyn Whitney joins Megan and Deedra on the podcast today to talk about her journey through her husband's addiction and finding her own healing on the other side of that trauma. Listen as she encourages us to stand in community with one another as we walk through pain and struggles and to see the hope of Jesus through it all.

Content warning: suicide Today’s guests are mother and daughter duo Carey Conley and Laurel Wilson. After losing two members of their family to suicide just three years apart – Carey's husband (Laurel's father) and Carey's son (Laurel's brother) – these two strong women chose not to just survive, but to thrive in the face of such adversity. Join us we discuss things like: finding your super safe people; mirroring the needs of others; asking others if they want you to listen or give advice/help; and language to use around suicide. We also discussed how both of them are enneagram Threes and learned more about themselves in the process of healing.

Kendall and Janell return to the podcast to talk about their business as coaches who take people on a journey of transformation. Besides working with people on the typical nutrition and fitness aspects of coaching, Kendall and Janell dig into what drives people under everything, using enneagram, emotions work, IFS, and embodiment practices. Deedra and Megan accidentally get a little too real as they discuss their own journey of re-integrating their bodies into their whole selves.

Megan and Deedra talk with Peggy Scott about the outward expression of our inner work--specifically, the presence we are putting out into the world. Peggy Scott is a presence coach, author and public speaker. She is passionate about having people shine their very best through their personal presence, which then extends to every part of their life. She has 30+ years of developing and delivering transformational programs that produce phenomenal and lasting results with her clients. Peggy is on a mission to empower women to stand confidently in their power to be seen, valued and respected.

Suzanne Overstreet joins Deedra and Megan to discuss the enneagram and health journeys. As a wellness coach, she dives into each type and what common pitfalls may be for each type and how to best coach them through it. Suzanne started a health journey in February of 2018 with the goal of losing some weight and feeling comfortable on the campaign trail with her husband. What she didn't count on was a transformation in mindset, passion, and purpose. Now she is a full time Independent Optavia coach who helps others achieve their goals for a healthy body, healthy mind, and healthy finances. She has been interested in learning about the enneagram for the past couple of years and now uses it in her health coaching with her clients to help raise self-awareness of how their fears and motivations can affect their health journey.

We are wrapping up this enneagram and relationships series with two best friends: Lorna and Katrina! Lorna is a Six and Katrina is a Seven, and together they talk about how they meet each other in the middle of what each needs: planning v. spontaneity and quiet nights in v. exciting adventures. Realizing their types was a huge key in how they interact, and we are thankful they share their stories so openly!

Best friends and ministry co-directors Ginger and Annie join us to discuss how the enneagram plays in their relationship. Ginger is a 5, and Annie is a 1. They share how they learned about their types; how each of them has learned to lean into their strengths to pull up the other's weaknesses; how their numbers ebb and flow into stress and security; and why understanding the energy levels of both is so important.

Next up in the enneagram and relationship series: it's Brock and Kelsey Morgan! They're both enneagram Sevens, and we talk about all the things: living life as an adventure; what it looks like when someone needs to be structured; and what happens when you can't reframe something. Brock opens up about his anxiety, and Kelsey discloses the depression she hit in her infertility journey. Don't miss this episode because it's got the full range of emotions from these healthy Sevens!