
Terribly Honest with David Tensen
By David Tensen
Join David Tensen for honest talks and walks recorded starting 2023. This is the audio stream from a series of vlogs on David's Youtube. David keeps a blog at www.davidtensen.com. Find him on all the socials, esp. Facebook and Insta.

Ep 21. Pt1. Healing from Church-Based Wounding: A Fresh Perspective on Foundation Sacrifice
Ep 21. Pt1. Healing from Church-Based Wounding: A Fresh Perspective on Foundation Sacrifice
Terribly Honest with David TensenMar 20, 2023
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Ep 24. How can you lead a faith community which accommodates people of all stages of life and faith?
Ep 24. How can you lead a faith community which accommodates people of all stages of life and faith?
I think religious leaders today face very unique challenges - particularly as traditional church attendance drops, yet people are still 'walking with God'. How can you lead a faith community which accommodates people of all stages of life and faith without ostracising or overlooking the young for the old and vice versa.
In this unscripted chat, Pastor Gary Grant and I talk about stages of faith, the journey of humanity, and the importance of creating a safe space for people with different experiences and beliefs.
We also talked about:
* the limitations of traditional church methods and the need for a more inclusive and diverse approach.
* different forms of worship and the importance of preventing problems in marriages and families.
* the importance of connecting with Jesus and personal transformation.
* concept of stewardship and the importance of taking care of oneself in all aspects of life.
Mar 30, 202301:05:40

Ep 23. Good Enough Parenting: Navigating the Challenges of Raising Successful Children...Whatever That Means!
Ep 23. Good Enough Parenting: Navigating the Challenges of Raising Successful Children...Whatever That Means!
In this episode, I delve the complexities and challenges of parenting. Beginning with looking at what raising 'successful kids' might actually mean, I highlight the importance of intentional parenting and the difficult decision of releasing children into adulthood. I share thoughts on the the sacrificial aspect of parenting and the immense pressure parents can feel to be all things for their kids - which is not possible or fair on either party. The tangental chat finally concludes with a discussion on the ABCs of parenting, with the first being "always be modelling."
Find this on Youtube: https://youtu.be/3tWzJ_QMqvo
Additional Resources: Blog article on the ABCs of parenting
Mar 26, 202348:16

Ep 22. Pt2. Healing from Church-Based Wounding: When healers become sin-eaters.
Ep 22. Pt2. Healing from Church-Based Wounding: When healers become sin-eaters.
This is part 2 of 2 on the topic of Foundational Sacrifice. In this episode I talk openly as a guy who sacrificed my well-being and my family's well-being in the name of church growth. I hit burnout and suffered from compassion fatigue, realising that I was taking on the sins of the people I was helping.
For the first time, I publicly share about one of the key realisations I had which led to my recovery - being a sin-eater.
"Historically, a sin eater was a person who would be called upon to perform a ritual that involved consuming food and drink that was believed to symbolise the sins of a recently deceased person. It was believed that by consuming the food and drink, the sin eater would take on the sins of the deceased person, and in doing so, would absolve them of their sins, allowing them to enter heaven."
In sharing I hope to explain how some people with church-based wounding can end up there both voluntarily or involuntarily.
Youtube here: https://youtu.be/bZOJS4SDU8U
Mar 21, 202333:06

Ep 21. Pt1. Healing from Church-Based Wounding: A Fresh Perspective on Foundation Sacrifice
Ep 21. Pt1. Healing from Church-Based Wounding: A Fresh Perspective on Foundation Sacrifice
In this chat I start to unpack an uncommon perspective on church-based wounding that, over the years, has helped a lot of people put words around something they have felt deep in their hearts.
A quick Google of the term Foundation Sacrifice will reveal a practice that only physically stopped in Europe just a few hundred years ago. Today, however, the principle of sacrificing others relationally, emotionally, a d spiritually to build something still lives on in many organisations, including many Church communities.
Find this on Youtube here: https://youtu.be/uKy_5h7Fhd4
Referenced:
My Out of the Tomb teaching.
Anne Hamilton books on Threshold covenants
Mar 20, 202326:25

Ep 20. Interview with Ps. Gary Grant about holding space for those deconstructing in Church.
Ep 20. Interview with Ps. Gary Grant about holding space for those deconstructing in Church.
In this interview with my dear friend Gary Grant from Friends First Church we chat about the importance of authentic relationship with God and one another. We cover some of the sticky topics of miracles and theology including PSA and ECT. Gary shares on how they effect covenantal relationships in community.
Find this on podcasts: https://anchor.fm/david-tensen
Links:
Gary and Debbie Grant pastor at: https://friendsfirst.com.au/
Link mentioned at end: https://www.godwit.com.au/
Mar 06, 202342:48

Ep 19. Religious Trauma Syndrome it's role in deconstruction and our journey of faith.
Ep 19. Religious Trauma Syndrome it's role in deconstruction and our journey of faith.
What role can religious trauma syndrome (RTS) play in someone's faith deconstruction and spiritual journey.
In this episode I unpack some considerations on the tail end of the preceding 4 episodes on Stages of Faith.
Article Referenced: Reducing Church-based Trauma. Should we start with the Ministry Workers?
https://davidtensen.com/reducing-church-based-trauma-should-we-start-with-the-ministry-workers/
Excerpt:
"Symptoms in those suffering with RTS range in severity. Areas of the person’s psychological response effected by RTS include cognitive, functional, affective, social/cultural and developmental (delay). It is suggested that RTS develops in toxic religious environments where two basic narratives are communicated: “You are not okay” and “You are not safe.”. If you’ve been around varied presentations of the Christian message, you may agree there are plenty of doctrines that reinforce these two messages, including; original sin, eternal damnation, retributive wrathful judgement , end-time views, demon possession and gender/hierarchal/racial submission to name a few. You may also be aware of the ecclesiastical authority styles birthed from and supported by these doctrines."
Video Youtube Version: https://youtu.be/vZI0X1OWVjw
Mar 05, 202324:33

Ep 18. Stages of Faith pt4. The Outer Journey and Life of Love. Returning to the tribe a very different person.
Ep 18. Stages of Faith pt4. The Outer Journey and Life of Love. Returning to the tribe a very different person.
This is part 4 of a look through the Stages of Faith. In this stage I chat about what happens at THE OUTER JOURNEY stage 5, and THE LIFE OF LOVE stage 6. These are rather hard to talk about in that it is all rather unprescribed in its appearance.
Main text: The Critical Journey https://www.amazon.com.au/Critical-Journey-Stages-Life-Faith-ebook/dp/B00UZDO9C2
Find this on Youtube: https://youtu.be/3V2Za6AFqd4
My Poetry book: The Wrestle
https://www.amazon.com/Wrestle-Poems-Divine-Disappointment-Discovery/dp/0648989321/
Feb 28, 202330:22

Ep 17. Stages of Faith pt3. The Wall. The dark night and battle of your will against Gods.
Ep 17. Stages of Faith pt3. The Wall. The dark night and battle of your will against Gods.
This is part 3 of a look through the Stages of Faith. In this stage I chat about what happens at THE WALL in stage 4, The Inner Journey. This stage has also known as the Dark Night of the Soul or the moment that surrender is the only way through.
Main text: The Critical Journey https://www.amazon.com.au/Critical-Journey-Stages-Life-Faith-ebook/dp/B00UZDO9C2
Find this on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51-LIld355o
My Poetry book: The Wrestle
https://www.amazon.com/Wrestle-Poems-Divine-Disappointment-Discovery/dp/0648989321/
Poem mentioned: The Descent
Feb 21, 202340:08

Ep 16. Stages of Faith pt2. The Inner Journey. The difficult work of deconstruction + resource
Ep 16. Stages of Faith pt2. The Inner Journey. The difficult work of deconstruction + resource
This is part 2 of a look through the Stages of Faith. In this stage I chat about what happens and how we get to stage 4, The Inner Journey. This stage has also been coined as the deconstruction phase. If you have never heard about deconstruction put forward as a normal stage in your spiritual growth, this (and others in this series) are a must listen.
Main text: The Critical Journey https://www.amazon.com.au/Critical-Journey-Stages-Life-Faith-ebook/dp/B00UZDO9C2
Resources Mentioned:
Brad Jersak's Book. Out of the Embers
https://www.amazon.com.au/Out-Embers-Faith-After-Deconstruction/dp/1641238887
Brian McLaren:
https://www.amazon.com/Faith-After-Doubt-Beliefs-Stopped/dp/1250828376/
Keith Giles Books: https://www.amazon.com.au/s?i=digital-text&rh=p_27%3AGiles%2C+Keith%2C&s=relevancerank&text=Giles%2C+Keith%2C&ref=dp_byline_sr_ebooks_1
Justin and Abi Stumvoll Connected LIfe Podcast Interview: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/112-6-key-phases-of-faith/id1447545040?i=1000510141274
My Poetry book: The Wrestle
https://www.amazon.com/Wrestle-Poems-Divine-Disappointment-Discovery/dp/0648989321/
Feb 14, 202341:05

Ep 15. Stages of Faith p1. Why Those Deconstructing their Faith should understand there are STAGES to everyones faith.
Ep 15. Stages of Faith p1. Why Those Deconstructing their Faith should understand there are STAGES to everyones faith.
One of the most helpful frameworks to grasp on your faith journey is to understand that it naturally happens in stages. Healthy faith matures beyond birth and should really blossom beyond it's troubling teen equivalent.
In this chat I present and explain the 6 stages described in The Critical Journey book. This is a teaching I have found INCREDIBLY helpful, particularly as I went through a years of deconstruction and doubt.
In this chat I give an overview of the six stages present the first three stages in more details.
Watch it on video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAJDHit6H2A
RESOURCES
Book: https://www.amazon.com.au/Critical-Journey-Stages-Faith-Second/dp/1879215497
Feb 12, 202339:43

Ep 14. Why secure bonds and building joy matters in our healing journey AND how you facilitate it.
Ep 14. Why secure bonds and building joy matters in our healing journey AND how you facilitate it.
What is your capacity for joy and why does it matter in healing and recovery?
In this chat I explore some of the amazing work of Dr Jim Wilder and others from the Lifemodel. We consider safe and secure bonding as a primary factor in thriving in life.
I talk about the BEEPS model of addiction and how we create pseudo joy in our life.
I end the chat with walking you through and IMMANUEL moment. A beautiful practice for cultivating more joy and emotional regulation.
Watch this on youtube: https://youtu.be/UadhsBVNhqA
Resource mentioned:
LifeModel website: http://lifemodel.org/
Living from the heart Jesus gave you BOOK: https://www.amazon.com.au/Living-Heart-Jesus-Gave-You/dp/193562914X
Immanuel Approach: https://www.immanuelapproach.com/
Immanuel Focused training *Recommended* : https://immanuelfocusedtraining.com/events/
my site: www.davidtensen.com
Feb 10, 202338:06

Ep 13. From The Church Terrified to The Church Disconnected - Five dysfunctional family patterns that play out in Church communities
Ep 13. From The Church Terrified to The Church Disconnected - Five dysfunctional family patterns that play out in Church communities
A final instalment on 3 chats on how our dysfunctional upbringing can play out in church life.
We explore patterns and behaviours in these 5 scenarios:
The Church Terrified
The Church Compulsive
The Church Seen, but Not Heard
The Church Disconnected
The Church in Denial
On Youtube here: https://youtu.be/NavV6n-5JvE
Chart: https://www.dropbox.com/s/5y4ix0xhisffiww/church%20family%20patterns.pdf?dl=0
Book mentioned: https://www.amazon.com/Secrets-Your-Family-Tree-Healing/dp/0802476740
My website: www.davidtensen.com
Feb 08, 202322:07

Ep 12. How we carry dysfunctional family of origin roles into church and why change can be daunting.
Ep 12. How we carry dysfunctional family of origin roles into church and why change can be daunting.
As a continuation on the topic and response to Ep 11, I elaborate on the roles people play out in church communities.
This list isn't exclusive and you may have heard the roles/archetypes in different ways but the outworking of them can be similar.
Roles mentioned:
Overly Responsible Member
Acting Out Member
Mascot Member
Adjusting Member
I also touch on church cultures, using Hillsong's ability to attract many volunteers, as an example.
Find this on video at: https://youtu.be/bd_EK62k72k
Resource:
Book mentioned: https://www.amazon.com/Secrets-Your-Family-Tree-Healing/dp/0802476740
Check out Ep 11.
Feb 05, 202334:01

Ep. 11. How dysfunctional family backgrounds play out in our choice of church and why people defend their way of worship.
Ep. 11. How dysfunctional family backgrounds play out in our choice of church and why people defend their way of worship.
Research suggests there is a really big connection between your family of origin experience and the kind of worship / church service style you prefer. In this walk-and-talk I share specifically how the the DON'T FEEL and DON'T THINK rules of a dysfunctional home play out in charismatic and conservative evangelical church experiences. I also discuss my experiences with people who return from Bethel's School of Supernatural Ministry internships.
Find this on video at: https://www.youtube.com/@DavidTensen/videos
NOTES:
Book mentioned: https://www.amazon.com/Secrets-Your-Family-Tree-Healing/dp/0802476740
Chart from book: https://www.dropbox.com/s/95lz8nlawpzk8su/from%20Secrets%20of%20Your%20Family%20tree.JPG?dl=0
*note, I couldn't remember the TRUST part of the chart but you can fill in the blanks, I'm sure.
Feb 03, 202320:01

Ep. 10. How and Why I engage with challenging commentary on socials.
Ep. 10. How and Why I engage with challenging commentary on socials.
I have had plenty of people shake their head at me saying "I don't know why you engage with some of the commentary you get on socials. I couldn't do it."
Well, it's not by accident or because I'm looking for a fight. But I am doing my best to enter constructive civil dialogue.
Find this filmed on Youtube too at https://www.youtube.com/@DavidTensen
Book mentioned by Os Guinness: https://www.amazon.com/Case-Civility-Why-Future-Depends/dp/0061353434
Feb 02, 202320:01

Ep 9. Life after Pentecostalism Pt 2. The importance of remaining enchanted - even when you feel disenfranchised
Ep 9. Life after Pentecostalism Pt 2. The importance of remaining enchanted - even when you feel disenfranchised
Part 2 of a chat on the topic.
Watch it on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@DavidTensen
Book referenced: https://www.amazon.com/Hunting-Magic-Eels-Recovering-Enchanted/dp/1506464653
Jan 29, 202320:57

Ep 8. Life after Pentecostalism Pt 1. Why reading Rohr and Manning helped.
Ep 8. Life after Pentecostalism Pt 1. Why reading Rohr and Manning helped.
A brief chat on how reading people like Richard Rohr and Brennan Manning opened my eyes to the gifts of brokenness. A stark contrast to what I had experience in the predominant messages of my early pentecostal-based teens and 20s.
Jan 26, 202310:39

Ep 7. The absurdity of absolute church unity & The necessity of denominations.
Ep 7. The absurdity of absolute church unity & The necessity of denominations.
Find this on the Youtube here: https://www.youtube.com/@DavidTensen .....
Trauma Informed Church Podcast mentioned: https://open.spotify.com/episode/4rGRBJ32rtBcx7JcgLBsYF?si=57882e6a97464b12 .....
Find David on FB and Insta and his blog www.davidtensen.com
Jan 24, 202324:19

Ep. 6 The complexity of being a Pastor Church worker. Things you should know. Part 2
Ep. 6 The complexity of being a Pastor Church worker. Things you should know. Part 2
This is part 2 of a 2 part chat walk where I give a summary of a research and experience driven workshop I used to teach on the complexity of being a church worker. In this episode we cover the complexity around CLAN / KIN and COMPANY. audio here: https://anchor.fm/david-tensen
Jan 23, 202326:53

Ep 5. The complexity of being a Pastor Church worker. Things you should know. Part 1
Ep 5. The complexity of being a Pastor Church worker. Things you should know. Part 1
This is part 1 of a 2 part chat walk where I give a summary of a research and experience driven workshop I used to teach on the complexity of being a church worker. In this episode we cover the complexity around CALLING and COMMUNITY.
Jan 21, 202321:55

Ep. 4 The importance of context in Church wounding
Ep. 4 The importance of context in Church wounding
In this chat I discuss something that has helped me walk through church-based wounding.
Jan 21, 202318:48

Ep. 3 Parenting after deconstruction.
Ep. 3 Parenting after deconstruction.
I have three children. Two teens and a tween. What has changed in my parenting and what do I want for my kids? I talk about salvation, sex and youth group under a different paradigm.
Jan 21, 202318:33

Ep 2. Beyond Hell. On salvation, love and restorative judgement .
Ep 2. Beyond Hell. On salvation, love and restorative judgement .
Responses to questions and comments on social media. *note: at 17:50min I meant to say 'restorative' not retributive yes... the cicadas are loud... summer in SE Queensland Article's mentioned https://bradjersak.com/beyond-hopeful... George Macdonald https://www.ccel.org/ccel/macdonald/u... My links Insta @david_tensen Fb /davidtensen Web davidtensen.com
Jan 20, 202319:45

Ep 1. Moving away from unhelpful and harmful theology and ideology.
Ep 1. Moving away from unhelpful and harmful theology and ideology.
An open response to those who demand I change my LGBTQ+ affirming stance too An open chat about recent FB confessions, comments and conversations. I cover topics like popular/ common evangelical and pentecostal theology pertaining to salvation and hell. I also speak openly about social media boundaries, recent LGBTQ+ questions and other things. This was going to be a few tiny videos for instagram stories but I just kept talking 🤣 Thanks to all those who watched this already and reached out with the 'me too's and 'thank yous'
Jan 19, 202316:17