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Dear Future, I'm Ready!

Dear Future, I'm Ready!

By Digital Society School & Transformational Studio

This. Is “Dear Future. I’m Ready’, a podcast brought to you from Amsterdam by Digital Society School and Transformational Studio.

In this podcast we explore more responsible ways to use the global transformation for the benefit of society.
As a listener, you will hear from 21 transformational leaders about how we might address the challenges of the 21st Century. As they share their ideas you’ll learn about how design, technology and social innovation can help reach the UN Sustainable Development Goals by 2030.
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DF - #21for21 - #21 - Christian Bason

Dear Future, I'm Ready!Dec 16, 2022

DF - #21for21 - #21 - Christian Bason

DF - #21for21 - #21 - Christian Bason

Listen to our FINAL(!) episode of the #21for21 podcast 🚀 🌏 with Christian Bason, director of the Danish Design Center, author and thought leader on mission driven design.

<strong>Christian</strong> sat down with Marco (Unfortunately, <strong>Carola</strong> was still not able to make it due to personal circumstances) and talked with Marco about complexity, the role of design centers, the role and responsibilities of designers, governments and companies, and about stretching the future, for us all and for a more beautiful planet.

🎤 We should get the thinking back into Design Thinking. Design Thinking is what has gotten us into the boardroom and the 🎤corporate lingo. But we are not getting much further as it has reduced design to a set of processes and methods.</li>
🎤 We (Danish Design Center) can drown you in toolkits😉 But I think we should have a nuanced perspective on what design is and what the role of the designer is.</li>
🎤 To work on these complex issues won't be for all designers. Some of us will move into more strategic positions, but many probably won't. And that is fine. We need to re-think 'Design Thinking' in this way.</li>
🎤 Our role is to raise agenda's, to direct design education but at the same time train current professionals and executives with the latest tools and mindsets that are needed.</li>
🎤 Designers can work together with farmers to positively envision a future, with nature as a stakeholder, that can be beneficial for all. And interestingly enough... don't forget: the dining table is the epicenter of the transition.</li>
🎤 Regulation is driving innovation, putting incredible pressure on companies. This is an incredible opportunity for designers. Designers can be the glue that binds and bridge all layers and parties.</li>
🎤 As innovation labs/ design centers... If you want to work with real systemic change, we have to build new infrastructure. It is important to be open and available for a wider set of actors and entities. Not just inside institutions.</li>
🎤 I am really first and foremost a storyteller... How might I tell the right stories, so that we can truly address the challenges we are facing as humanity and the planet?</li>
🎤 Dear Future, I am Ready to stretch you. I am ready to expand you and I am ready to shape you in a way that is good for us all and for the world we live in.</li>

Listen to the episode below 👇 🎧

About Christian Bason

Christian Bason, CEO, Ph.D. leads the Danish Design Centre (DDC), a non-profit foundation backed by the Danish government. Pursuing missions across green, digital and social transitions, the DDC creates new opportunities for innovation and sustainable growth for business, organizations and designers. Previously, Christian was Director of MindLab, the Danish government’s innovation team, and Business Manager with Ramboll Management Consulting. Christian is the author of eight books on innovation, design and leadership, including <em>Expand: Stretching t</em>
Dec 16, 202241:59
DF - #21for21 - #20 - J Bob Alotta

DF - #21for21 - #20 - J Bob Alotta

Listen to our latest episode of the #21for21 podcast 🚀  🌏  with J Bob Alotta, Media activist, filmmaker, movement strategist and current Vice President, Global Programs at Mozilla.

J Bob sat down with Marco at the Society 5.0 Festival in Amsterdam on October 12-13 where she was one of the keynote speakers. She talked with Marco about building movements for transformation, Mozilla as a driver of change, activism in times of uncertainty and of course, fueled with the topics of AI, big tech and the digital society.

  • 🎤 We find ourselves in our own echo chambers and this makes us feel we don't have to be accountable to each other. The real truth is that we are interdependent.
  • 🎤 This means you and I are engaged in this tension filled relations and then actually where there are consolidations of power and weatlth these are untouched. And this design is deeply problematic.
  • 🎤 We already have power and value. There is a dominant naritive that has us think we don't. But the gorgeous opportunity is to be inventive together and to be thoughtful about what we can produce and collaborate on together.
  • 🎤 Fear is preventing us to do most of the things we need to do at this point.
  • 🎤 Dear Future, I am Ready to not be afraid!

Listen to the episode below 👇 🎧

About J Bob Alotta

J. Bob Alotta is a veteran movement builder and nonprofit executive working at the intersection of technology and communities. Now serving as Vice President, Global Programs at Mozilla, Bob leads several ambitious initiatives to make the internet and artificial intelligence more trustworthy and equitable. These include the Mozilla Festival (MozFest), which convenes tens of thousands of technologists, artists, and activists each year. The Data Futures Lab, which reimagines new, better ways for data to be governed. The Responsible Computer Science Challenge, which is training a new generation of ethics-minded technologists. And more.

Nov 03, 202226:11
DF - #21for21 - #19 - Roland van der Vorst

DF - #21for21 - #19 - Roland van der Vorst

Listen to our inspiring new episode of the #21for21 podcast 🚀  🌏  with Roland van der Vorst, head of innovation of the international Dutch bank Rabobank and former professor of TU Delft and founder and director of Freedomlab.

Roland sat down with Marco at the Society 5.0 Festival in Amsterdam on October 12-13. He talked with Marco about transitions, looking at things differently, the role and responsibilities of corporates and academia in these transformational times, and of course what it means to be a creative voice and designerly thinker in a corporate environment.

  • 🎤 I am not so interested in what is happening in the world, but more in how we deal with it. The fear we experience is most alarming, even more than the situations themselves.
  • 🎤 Transition always starts in the mind, from within us. One of the biggest transitions in our mind is that we now start to understand that we as an individual are not the center of the universe. It all starts there, without it we can't change our behavior.
  • 🎤 Technology is sold as being 'open', but at the same time technology forces us to fixate.
  • 🎤 Don't mix up dreams with goals. Goals you evaluate based on results, dreams you evaluate based on your intention.
  • 🎤 It is extremely exciting to be in a bank. Especially because is not going to change over night, but at the same it needs to change. That is my challenge, both from an intellectual and entrepreneurial perspective.
  • 🎤 Dear Future, I am Ready to open up!

Listen to the episode below 👇 🎧

About Roland van der Vorst

Roland's professional life is dominated by two activities: trying to understand things and to put things in motion. The first has lead to various books, columns and lectures. The second has put on the path of entrepreneurship. I have always worked at the crossroads of strategic thinking and creative thinking. The last 16 years I did so by advising clients in various industries on brand development. I have managed professional organizations and put my strategies into practice by being an entrepreneur in both Europe and Singapore.

Oct 25, 202231:41
DF - #21for21 - #18 - Matthew Wizinsky

DF - #21for21 - #18 - Matthew Wizinsky

Listen to our new episode of the #21for21 podcast 🚀  🌏  with Matthew Wizinsky, a designer, researcher and educator. He is author of the amazing new book 'Design After Capitalism'.

Matthew talks with Marco and Carola about transition design, the role and responsibilities of academics and educators in design, new visions on the design profession and about capitalism from a designer’s perspective. Matthews's perspective.

  • 🎤 As designers, we perhaps don't fully grasp what our mission is currently.
  • 🎤 There are so many forms of design, but the kind I talk about is 'design at the scale of the human body'.
  • 🎤 Transformation has also moved designers in many cases into powerful positions, designers are now in the board room. But, then, what do we do now?
  • 🎤 We are trying to reform design, so that it can transcend capitalism.
  • 🎤 My argument is not one of revolution, but rather one of erosion. How do we slowly erode the systems and situations we are stuck in.
  • 🎤 Dear Future, I am Ready to design after capitalism. I hope you come with me!

Listen to the episode below 👇 🎧

About Matthew Wizinsky

Matthew Wizinsky is a designer, researcher, educator, and author on contemporary issues in design practice and research. He has over 20 years of professional experience in communication, interaction, exhibition, and experiential design, and he consults organizations on future possibilities through strategic foresight. He is an Associate Professor in the Ullman School of Design at the University of Cincinnati, PhD researcher in Transition Design at Carnegie Mellon University, Associate Editor for the communication design journal Visible Language, and the author of Design after Capitalism (MIT Press, 2022).

Jul 06, 202245:09
DF - #21for21 - #17 - Ruurd Priester

DF - #21for21 - #17 - Ruurd Priester

Listen to our fascinating new episode of the #21for21 podcast 🚀  🌏  with Ruurd Priester, 

Ruurd talks with Marco and Carola about the stack of crises, doughnut economics and how he thinks we should transform (the) design (field) for good.

  • 🎤  Most designers are in fact not designers, because they are working in the current or old economic models. And designers solve problems, and the old economic models are in fact the problem...
  • 🎤  Dear Future, I am ready to work for the younger generation, so that their powers will be released for good.

Listen to the episode below 👇 🎧

About Ruurd Priester

Ruurd is a systems thinker/doer, a social entrepreneur and researcher, with many years in digital design, marketing, innovation and strategy. He is Co-Founder and strategist of Groundforce Studio, which developed the Doughnut Economics Action Lab website and platform. Ruurd is Co-Founder and Acting Chair of the Amsterdam Donut Coalitie, Co-Founder and strategist of Climate Cleanup, and a former Research Fellow at the Amsterdam University of Applied Science – where he is also leading the sustainability program re-set. Ruurd's favorite motto is from Charles Eames: 'eventually everything connects'.

Jun 08, 202240:44
DF - #21for21 - #16 - Celiane Camargo-Borges

DF - #21for21 - #16 - Celiane Camargo-Borges

Listen to our dazzling new episode of the #21for21 podcast 🚀  🌏  with Celiane Camargo-Borges, pioneer in imagineering, researcher and founder of designing conversations where she advocates the power of dialogue. 

Celiane talks with Marco and Carola about the potential of dialogue, collective creativity, Imagineering Design and social change.

  • 🎤  How can we (as educators) shift from being owners of content to facilitators of learning processes?
  • 🎤  Our focus on 'fixing things' blinds us from the process, which is inherently part of transformation.
  • 🎤  Dialogue is a resource do design an environment in which people can become creative and innovative.
  • 🎤  Dear Future ,I am ready to jump, I am ready to experiment and create a future with diversity and inclusion, combining regeneration of nature with our economy.

Listen to the episode below 👇 🎧

About Celiane Camargo-Borges

Celiane Camargo-Borges is faculty at Breda University of Applied Sciences in The Netherlands and visiting professor and guest lecturer at several universities around the world such as University of São Paulo in Brazil, University of Padova in Italy, University College Aspira in Croatia, among others.  She is also the founder of Designing Conversations (, where she consults, designs and delivers workshops and process design within a diversity of areas where creativity, imagination, innovation and dialogue are central. In addition, she is a member of the Taos Institute Board, serving as a PhD supervisor and facilitator of workshops and online courses.

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May 13, 202236:45
DF #21for21 - #15 - Aga Szóstek

DF #21for21 - #15 - Aga Szóstek

Listen to our sparkling new episode of the #21for21 podcast 🚀  🌏  with Aga Szóstek, strategic designer, author of The Umami Strategy and co-host of the podcast The Next Wave.

Aga talks with Marco and Carola about transformation, going beyond human centeredness and the umami strategy.

  • 🎤  Instead of teaching others about transformation we should teach them the skills to keep on changing.
  • 🎤  A transformation in itself is a process with a consequence, there is a continuation after.
  • 🎤  Is human-centered a correct way of thinking? And I even think, perhaps there should not even be a center?
  • 🎤  We have to keep asking ourselves "what does it taste like?" We have to discover the 'umami' strategy.
  • 🎤  Dear Future, I am ready to follow your guidance into helping the world, not only survice, but thrive!

Listen to the episode here 👇 🎧

About Aga Szóstek

Aga Szóstek, Ph.D. is a strategic designer. For the past two decades she worked at the forefront of combining design, technology and business. She collaborated with brands such as Google, Microsoft, Philips, Canon, Samsung, EY, Santander, ING, Orange and many more, bringing the experience-focused strategic approach to project teams and boardrooms. Her approach inspired many organisations to refocus and bet on experiences as their strategic differentiator.

Next to consulting, Szóstek designs tools aiming to support delivering unique experiences and co-hosts a podcast about creative leadership: Catching The Next Wave. She graduated with her Ph.D. from the Eindhoven University of Technology, The Netherlands, and teaches experience design all around the world from the alternative business school Kaospilot in Denmark to Canterbury University in Christchurch, New Zealand.

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Mar 21, 202246:07
DF #21for21 - #14 - Kees Klomp

DF #21for21 - #14 - Kees Klomp

Listen carefully en leave with fresh inspiration from our new episode of the #21for21 podcast again 🚀  🌏  with Kees Klomp, professor, author and the voice of a different sound in economics.

Kees talks with Marco and Carola about existential economics, personal transformation and being vulnerable in order to thrive.

About Kees Klomp

Kees Klomp is professor of Purpose Economy at Rotterdam University of Applied Sciences where he researches and develops an existential approach to economics. He is co-founder of Thrive institute, an organization that aims to re-invent economics and society. Kees is a recognized voice in topics of transformation and new ways of thinking and solving for the complex times we live in.

In his latest book ‘Thrive. Fundamentals for a New Economy’, Kees and co-author Shinta Oosterwaal provide insights into alternative approaches to economics that are sustainable and just for both society and the planet in the long term.

Dec 21, 202141:48
DF #21for21 - #13 - Orlando Wood

DF #21for21 - #13 - Orlando Wood

Such an inspiring new episode of the #21for21 podcast again 🚀  🌏  with Orlando Wood, award winning Chief Innovation Officer of System1 Group and author of Lemon and Look Out.

Orlando talks with Marco and Carola about about technology, media, brands and the transformation of advertising.

  • 🎤  The Internet has caused us to look inwards and downwards. The algorithms push us to the extremes and hollow out the center ground.
  • 🎤  I am not against technology, I am just pro-human.
  • 🎤  Detachment from each other will make us very vulnerable as a society.
  • 🎤  How, in a left-brain dominated world, do we reconnect with meaning and our very own human nature?
  • 🎤  We need to reconnect with the world and rediscover that sense of place, which for example in advertising has really disappeared over the last 20 years.
  • 🎤  A bit of self-doubt is helpful at times and will help us get to a better place ultimately.
  • 🎤  It is the right-brain that gives the world that bit of meaning, of togetherness.
  • 🎤  We have to look back at times. Only by looking back, to the culture that has gone before, you will be able to find the energy to push things forward.

Listen to the episode below 👇 🎧

About Orlando Wood

Orlando Wood is an advertising effectiveness expert and author of Look out (IPA, 2021), Lemon (IPA, 2019), and co-author of System1, Unlocking Profitable Growth (2017). His research on advertising effectiveness draws on psychology, cultural history and the study of the creative arts. Orlando’s work describes the features of advertising that capture attention, elicit an emotional response and so establish lasting business effects; his work also shows how these very same features have been disappearing from advertising in the digital age. Orlando has influenced thinking and practice in research, marketing and advertising, winning him awards from the ARF, AMA, Jay Chiat, ISBA, MRS and ESOMAR. Orlando is a frequent conference speaker and podcast guest.

Orlando is Chief Innovation Officer of System1 Group, Honorary Fellow of the Institute of Practitioners in Advertising and member of the IPA’s Effectiveness Leadership Group.

Dec 10, 202133:34
DF #21for21 - #12 - Ron Wakkary

DF #21for21 - #12 - Ron Wakkary

An exciting new episode of the #21for21 podcast 🚀  🌏  with Ron Wakkary, professor of design, author and chief of Future Everyday.

Ron talks with Marco and Carola about about human-centricity, posthumanist design and creative speculation.

  • 🎤  Design has a role to play, positively, but we have to reflect on how we arrived here and be mindful of the negative effects of design as well
  • 🎤  In my role as design educator, I believe we should really embrace pluralism. Students feel a stronger sense of urgency when thinking about what it means to be a designer and we should be very careful about thinking about just one way to educate.
  • 🎤  We need to not only speculate on the future, but especially on the here and now.
  • 🎤  Humility and generosity are important behaviours when thinking about what we are privileged to speculate on - it is the response that is generous.
  • 🎤  The shift to post-human is vital. What does it mean to design with. You pay attention to who else and what else, from with designers to even with bacterias .
  • 🎤  Dear Future, I am ready to discuss, learn and practice, how to design with, to better co-habit our more than human world. Design with the multiplicity of design with humans and non-humans, that make our world and to do that with humility, generosity and expansiveness.
About Ron Wakkary

Ron is a professor in design in the School of Interactive Arts and Technology, at Simon Fraser University in Canada and professor and Chair of Design for More Than Human-Centered Worlds in the cluster Future Everyday at Eindhoven University of Technology in the Netherlands. Wakkary is the author of the book Things We Could Design for more than Human-Centered Worlds, a critical and creative speculation on posthumanist design.

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Nov 04, 202134:55
DF #21for21 - #11 - Minnie Moll

DF #21for21 - #11 - Minnie Moll

A fascinating new episode of the #21for21 podcast 🚀  🌏  with Minnie Moll, currently chief executive of the UK Design Council.

Minnie talks with Marco and Carola about the role of design, creativity and innovation in the light of 'Design for Planet' and the role of business as a force for transformation.

  • 🎤 The covid pandemic shows us the impact that something invisible can have on our lives. This is truly globally, experiencing this at the same time. This makes very tangible the sense of one planet, one world, one people.
  • 🎤 Design for Planet is about a holistic sense of sustainability and planetary needs. Focusing on net zero and carbon reduction is not enough.
  • 🎤 Wow the difference that design thinking could make to organisations!!
  • 🎤  We need vision and leadership for transformation. The vision has to be shared. And leadership doesn’t necessarily come from the person who has leadership in the title.
  • 🎤 Good design is inclusive design. And the more diversity you have in the team, the wider your peripheral vision and the more tuned-in you are.
  • 🎤  Now is design’s time because it is unequivocally going to be critical moving forward. Design shapes the world.
About Minnie Moll

Minnie Moll is the Chief Executive of Design Council. She was previously Chief Executive of Jarrold Retail in Norwich. Her other roles have included Joint Chief Executive of the East of England Co-op, Executive Director of Marketing at Notcutts Garden Centres, Global Marketing Director of leading innovation company ?What If!, and Managing Partner of advertising agency HHCL.

Minnie was voted Vistage Business Leader of the Year in 2020 and listed as one of the 100 Most Inspirational Women in Suffolk and Norfolk in 2018. She was appointed by HRH Prince Charles in 2016 as his Ambassador for Responsible Business in the East of England as part of Business in the Community. Minnie has been a board member of two Business Improvement Districts (BIDs) and a Town Deals Board. She is currently an Ambassador for the charity Fresh Start – new beginnings.

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Oct 14, 202140:12
DF #21for21 - #10 - Sonia Manchanda

DF #21for21 - #10 - Sonia Manchanda

"When you bring together design, technology and media, maybe you can start thinking about the human experience and how we can make it better. It can’t be done in isolation.”

“We were caught off-guard in this moment, and it tells us: ‘here are the gaps’.”

“We need to constantly re-imagine, re-frame and re-shape… and therefore respond and resolve."

“Design is in the space of creating brands, changing behaviours, creating movements. A lot of that is possible by design.”

"We want to spread design as a way of feeling, thinking and doing things.”

“I’m a big believer in dreaming.”

“Complex ideas can be explained simply when you create the right environment.”

“Dear Future, I’m ready… to release the past, remain ever-present, resolve the future, be sensitive, sensible and sensational.”

Sonia Manchanda is Founding Partner at Spread Design and Innovation. Building expertise at tremendous speed in design, media and technology.

She has a stellar reputation in building creative organisations and leading transdisciplinary project teams on massive transformational projects for governments and industry nationally and globally.

Including the highly recognised Open Innovation and Design Strategy Project Dream:in

More recently, she has designed the Design Barn from the ground up. It is India’s first independent Design Center, which bridges the design and innovation gap.

Her intent is to spread design as a way to sense the shifts, to respond with creativity, optimism and imagination.

Sonia is a graduate of the National Institute of Design, Ahmedabad. She is a member of the CII Design Council, a Governing Council Member of the incubator Forge, and a trustee at

Nityegram, the only ‘dance village’ in the world.

Sep 15, 202133:27
DF #21for21 - #9 - Philip McKenzie

DF #21for21 - #9 - Philip McKenzie

Listen to the latest inspiring episode of the #21for21 podcast 🚀  🌏  with Philip McKenzie, an anthropologist, strategist and dj from Brooklyn New York.

Philip talks with Marco and Carola about (r)evolutions, systems change, taking bold steps and diving deep in order to thrive.

  • 🎤  We have to question everything that we do. That is what revolutionaries do.
  • 🎤  It is the people who are not included in the central conversation that question why the world is operating the way it is operating. Discomfort spurs deep questioning of the status quo.
  • 🎤  When I look around, I actually see very little transformation. We live in a plug-in world where we are mostly adding things to the existing systems.
  • 🎤  Our systems are seductive frameworks. The difficulty is that you have to actively work against them, by building different ways of community, support and being.
  • 🎤  Dear Future, I'm Ready... to love. Everything starts with love.

Listen to the episode 👇 🎧

About Philip McKenzie

Philip L. McKenzie is an anthropologist who uses his expertise in culture to advise organizations on how best to thrive in an increasingly challenging and uncertain environment. Philip uses his quantitative background and Wall Street experience in combination with a qualitative understanding of social, economic and cultural movements to unmask complex opportunities and identify significant trends that impact and uncover viable futures.

Philip’s work has placed him at the center of understanding the significance of culture as a reflection of shared values. As a result he is a sought after strategist working with a myriad of global organizations. He is a content creator and writer. He is the current Executive Director of Advancing Diversity and a columnist for MediaVillage. He is the creator and host of The Deep Dive, a leading culture and insights podcast.

In the past, he has manifested his creative vision as co-host/co-creator of 2 Dope Boys & a Podcast.

Philip is a global speaker, having provided keynotes and workshops in London, Moscow, Sao Paulo, Istanbul, Amsterdam, Mexico City and more.

Prior, he was the Managing Partner of FREE DMC, a multicultural and influencer-marketing agency that specialized in integrated marketing strategy, digital content creation, and experiential events. He was also the Global Curator of Influencer Conference, a global content platform that exists at the intersection of values, creativity, culture, and commerce.

Philip is born and bred in what he terms “Real Brooklyn” but travels extensively wherever the wind takes him. He is completing his first book titled No Shortcuts! The Revolutionaries Guide To The Future.

Jul 22, 202144:15
DF #21for21 - #8 - Karen O'Brien

DF #21for21 - #8 - Karen O'Brien

Yet again a very interesting and inspiring episode of the #21for21 podcast 🚀  🌏

Karen O'Brien talks with Marco and Carola about what matters, what is equatable and what is sustainable.

  • 🎤  We are being challenged on all fronts today and it's easy to think about what problem to prioritize, but from my perspective it is just one big problem: a relationship problem.
  • 🎤  When we start to realize that 'how we show up in the moment' really matters, we  can really start having a much bigger impact on the systems, the structures and the way we have organized society.
  • 🎤   We talk a lot about agency, and when I think about that, I like to see ourselves as 'fractals': we are the systems, we are the collective, we are not separate.
  • 🎤  Dear Future, I am Ready, to generate quantum social change...

Listen to the episode here 👇 🎧

About Karen O'Brien

Karen O’Brien is a Professor of Human Geography at the University of Oslo in Norway, and co-founder of c-CHANGE, a company committed to engaging people with equitable, ethical, and sustainable transformations in a changing climate.
Her goal is to contribute to a “quantum leap” to an equitable world where all life can thrive.
She has been thinking and writing about climate change for over 30 years. And now, in 2021, Karen was a co-recipient of the prestigious BBVA Foundation’s Frontiers of Knowledge Award for her contribution to climate change science.
Together with Robin Leichenko she has written, Climate and Society: Transforming the Future. Her newest book “You matter more than you think” is just out: be sure to look it up!

Jul 06, 202132:31
DF #21for21 - #7 - Alan Moore

DF #21for21 - #7 - Alan Moore

Alan Moore is a designer and business innovator on a mission to help businesses discover their own unique beauty.

Working directly with companies and organisations, Alan mentors teams and individuals, delivers inspirational leadership programmes, and advises clients on how to design and build a regenerative business. Alan has shared his knowledge in the form of board and advisory positions, and has taught in institutions including MIT, the Sloan School of Management and INSEAD.

Alan is the author of four books on creativity and business transformation, including Do Design: Why beauty is key to everything (Do Books, 2016). He has spoken at The Do Lectures, SXSW and the Hay Literary Festival and has featured in the media.

Alan still works as an artist. Every day, he tries to lead his life as beautifully as he possibly can.

You can find out more on his website:

Jun 23, 202137:26
DF #21for21 - #6 - Anne Stenros

DF #21for21 - #6 - Anne Stenros

A conversation about being pioneers and catalysts, strong design, eudaimonia, and about reconnecting with nature. Marco and Carola speak with Dr. Anne Stenros about transformation, design and society. 

🚀 “Dear Future, I’m Ready” says Anne, “because the Earth is.” 🌏 

A thought provoking episode, that unpacks the metaphor of transformation as sailing and the quote by Alan Watts: “The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance.” 

About Anne Stenros 

Dr. Anne Stenros is thought leader and an architect with a doctorate in technology. She has over 25 years’ experience in creative leadership and strategic design. Between 2005-2015, she acted as the first Design Director at KONE Corporation, a world leading elevator and escalator company. In 2016- 2018, she was appointed as the first ever chief design officer CDO of a city, namely the city of Helsinki. She has also had a professorship in Creative Leadership at the Aalto University. She has participated as an expert role in many different EU forums, and she was the Member of the World Design Capital WDC 2022 Selection Committee by World Design Organization WDO. Currently she is speaking, lecturing, writing, mentoring and catalysing change. She is curious about the future of cities, architecture, and urbanism. She believes in collaboration, co-creation, and creative collective. 

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  • Edward Wilson: Biophilia (1984) 
  • Howard Gardner: Multiple Intelligences (1983, 2006): 
  • Suzanne Simard: Finding the Mother Tree (2021) 
  • Ted Talk / Camille Defrenne and Suzanne Simard, The Secret Language of Trees: 
  • Architect Kengo Kuma: The Pandemic Changed My Work: 
  • Quote by Architect Louis Kahn:“A city is the place of availabilities. It is the place where a small boy, as he walks through it, may see something that will tell him what he wants to do his whole life.”
Jun 07, 202134:57
DF #21for21 - #5 - Joe Pine

DF #21for21 - #5 - Joe Pine

Another amazing episode of #21for21: Carola and Marco speak with Joe Pine, about experience, transformation and thriving forever.

🎤 Human beings crave experiences, crave social situations and being around other people… over the past year we’ve moved from out-there to in-here from experiences to experiences, from social and communal experiences to more private and familial experiences and from physical experiences to digital experiences. But we still want those experiences. As things open up, we’ll see a lot of pent-up demand for getting out again, being able to have social and meaningful experiences out there in the real world.”

🎤 “For the re-release of The Experience Economy we’ve added a time model. The most precious resource in the world is time of individual human beings. Too often, what companies do is waste people’s time.”

🎤 "Transformations are a distinct economic offering. We can be that force for good by helping people achieve their aspirations for themselves as well as for the world. For the communities and organizations and businesses that they belong to.”

Joe shows us a future full of possibilities, and inspires us with his vision:
“Dear Future, I’m Ready: to be a force for transformation, creating value for humanity. But I can’t do it myself! I will do all I can to affect others so that they can be a force for change and thrive forever. So that they can affect others so that they can be a force for change and thrive forever. And so on, and so on, and so on.”

About Joe Pine

Joe Pine is an internationally acclaimed author, speaker, and management advisor. He is the co-founder of the Strategic Horizons LLP, the home of the experience economy, where he and his team help executives to see the world's differently and wrote many books include Mass Customization, Authenticity, Infinite Possibility, and of course, The Experience Economy, Competing For Customer Time, Attention, and Money.

May 26, 202128:12
DF #21for21 - #4 - Lauren Currie

DF #21for21 - #4 - Lauren Currie

 In this episode, Lauren Currie speaks about confidence, the power of design, the need for diversity and inclusion and amplifying people’s voices.

🎤  The changes we face are BIG:

“There is a lot to process and make sense of. The way I think about it, these paradigm shifts are opportunities for progress.”

🎤  The depth of injustice and inequality is being REVEALED:

“The covid-19 crisis has revealed something we could not see before or if we could see it we weren’t paying attention…This global pandemic has pulled the curtain, and let us see the depth of injustice and inequality. And also the scale of the problems that we need to address: the scale of racism and bias,  the scale of incompetence we can see at leadership levels across the board from political parties to corporations to local businesses."

🎤 Reminding ourselves of the importance of supporting EACH OTHER:

“When you focus on the power that you do have, you come to the conversation from a place of abundance, optimism and hope. A place of knowing that collectively -when we have each other- we are bigger than any institution, any corporation or any policy."

🎤 Building a confidence REVOLUTION:

”Confidence is a muscle. It is something anyone can learn. It is not something you are born with. It’s not innate within you. You learn confidence the same way you learn to play basketball or you learn to breastfeed. These are really powerful muscles that I believe play a really important part in the conversation that we’re having."

🎤  The importance of SPEAKING UP:

“Call sexism and racism out when you hear it: often it’s these moments that may be passed off as ‘oh, he’s just joking’ or ’this is just his way', or ‘I know there’s an event and we’ve got no women of colour speakers but we couldn’t find any, we asked a few and they all said 'no'’. It’s in that moment where you need to choose: okay I am going to be uncomfortable. I am going say something that is probably make people uncomfortable too. But you’ve got to do that. In fact it’s a necessity."

May 19, 202131:15
DF #21for21 - #3 - Nora Bateson

DF #21for21 - #3 - Nora Bateson

Nora Bateson, is an award-winning filmmaker, research designer, writer and educator, as well as President of the International Bateson Institute based in Sweden. Her work asks the question “How we can improve our perception of the complexity we live within, so we may improve our interaction with the world?”. An international lecturer, researcher and writer, Nora wrote, directed and produced the award-winning documentary, An Ecology of Mind, a portrait of her father, Gregory Bateson. Her work brings the fields of biology, cognition, art, anthropology, psychology, and information technology together into a study of the patterns in ecology of living systems. Her book, Small Arcs of Larger Circles is a revolutionary personal approach to the study of systems and complexity. Nora coined the term Warm Data and is initiator of the Warm Data Labs for the exploration of transcontextual information. 

May 05, 202140:44
DF #21for21 - #2 - Hugo Araujo

DF #21for21 - #2 - Hugo Araujo

Have you ever told someone, when he or she was facing a challenge or was wondering about a life concept: LOOK AT OR ASK NATURE?. Most of us have. But how much do we actually do that?

Biomimicry is the practice that learns from and mimics the strategies found in nature to solve human design challenges — really asking nature,  you might say.

In this episode of Dear Future, I'm Ready #21for21 we are very happy to be talking to  Hugo Araujo, about exactly that: what can we ask nature, and specifically, how can biomimicry help us solve problems and transform better and more sustainably?

About Hugo Araujo

Hugo is one of the first 30 Biomimicry Professionals Worldwide, certified by the Biomimicry Institute in 2013. He has taken part in ground breaking research in the field of Biomimicry, travelled to remote locations exploring diversity of ecosystems.

Hugo is also an artist and an entrepreneur with special focus on sustainable innovation and business. His main drive is to find a balance between humans and nature. Hugo is the creator of the #7Vortex - a collaborative platform for a new kind of problem-solvers.

Find out more about Hugo's projects and work:

Sustentavía  (2009)
7vortex        (2017)
7V Health     (2019)
Virtual Gaia  (2020)
Biominga      (2021)

Apr 20, 202129:52
DF #21for21 - #1 - Wouter van Noort

DF #21for21 - #1 - Wouter van Noort

In our first episode of the #21for21 series, Carola and Marco talk to Wouter van Noort about personal development in the context of transformation. Wouter explores potential futures & systems change, as well as transcendental purpose & meaning.

In the fascinating and rich conversation that follows, Wouter addresses topics such as the role of the pandemic on consciousness around systems change, the role of the self in this transformation, the futurenow concept, the need for internalisation and how we are entering a transformation that is not only a change from the outside, but mainly from within. 

Wouter van Noort is a Dutch journalist who explores our potential futures and systems change, and recently started a weekly newsletter Transcend, about transcendental purpose and meaning. He works for the daily newspaper NRC Handelsblad and is a commentator for several tv and radio programs. Wouter founded Future Affairs, a fast growing digital subdomain of NRC with a podcast, a weekly curated newsletter, an online community and live events.

Follow Wouter's interesting journey via:

Future Affairs:  
Podcasts F.A.:  

Apr 07, 202122:15
DF #21for21 - AN INTRODUCTION by Carola and Marco

DF #21for21 - AN INTRODUCTION by Carola and Marco

In this introductory episode of the new series #21for21 (21 Transformational Leaders for the 21st Century), Your hosts Carola Verschoor and Marco van Hout will share why they started this series and what you can expect in the next episodes.

Carola is founder and chief creative officer of Transformational Studio, a transformation design agency with the aim of revolutionizing change through design and making transformation irresistible.

Marco is co-founder and creative director of Digital Society School in Amsterdam, a neutral training ground for responsible and sustainable leadership in today’s and tomorrow’s digital society. 

Together, they bring new questions for topics that are still largely unanswered. Engaging with thought leaders on transformational topics to open up the conversation and the exploration of what’s next as we navigate the 21st century. So that we can all say: “Dear Future, I’m ready!”

Mar 21, 202113:58
DF2019 #2 - Live at SXSW 2019 with John Maeda

DF2019 #2 - Live at SXSW 2019 with John Maeda

Interview with John Maeda, design/tech guru/ initiator Design in Tech Report. Recorded at SXSW 2019 in Marriott Hotel, Austin, Texas.

DSS caught up with design and tech guru John Maeda to talk about his famous and highly anticipated Design in Tech report:
We talked about how design and tech can use the right tools and methods, have the right mindset and catch up, to have positive impact on the sustainable development goals and the planet and society in general. And how can designers and design change?

This year, John's report has stirred some controversy within the design community, as one of his main conclusions was that design wasn’t that important after all.

In this episode, listen to how I asked John about his report in the light of sustainability, change and cross cultural collaboration and responsibility.

Feb 16, 202116:27
DF2019 #1 - Live at Paris Design Summit 2019

DF2019 #1 - Live at Paris Design Summit 2019

This episode covers the Paris Design Summit where professionals, academics, agencies, governments and NGO's gathered and take action for a BETTER WORLD.

This was the first gathering of a 12 year initiative to create an effective framework for design, tackling the 17 SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT GOALS of the United Nations.
These goals include all urgent challenges that we face and want to have solved before the year 2030. They include goals like Zero Poverty, good Health and Wellbeing, Better Education, Sustainable cities and gender equality.

During the summit, Marco van Hout talked to the organisers and some of the most inspiring speakers and experts that attended.

In these 20 minutes you will hear
1. how the Paris Design Summit aims to form a community of change-makers, how a renowned city builder from Canada is changing our cities and communities to tackle the most complex challenges on our planet,
2. how one of the largest architecture companies in the world believes society and the design community should be trained for more impact,
3. And, how a former punker made sure to channel his ‘fuck you’s’ towards positive change.

Feb 16, 202122:01