
Digitally Rare
By Jonathan Mann

Digitally RareMay 01, 2023

Is This Good Material? BINGO w/ Kevin Esherick
We learn about the latest artistic additions to his jeans (the Material) and about Kevin's latest work, Artist Bingo.

The Meaning of Minting w/ Giancarlo
A conversation on the wider NFT market, what mass adoption may look like, and what gives these digital objects meaning.

Copyright Click Save w/ Brian L Frye
Join us for a wildly fun conversation about the NFT art market, copyright, plagiarism, and more with IP lawyer and conceptual artist Brian L Frye.

Embracing The Chaos That Comes With the Summer Haze
Artist Cole Sternberg chats with us about environmental composition, analog and digital patina, and the background of his work, on- and off-line.

Getting 0wned w/ Rhea Myers
OG crypto artist Rhea Myers on Inscriptions, the intent vs letter of the code that is law, her upcoming compendium of written pieces, and her new digital work showcased in Berlin.

Open Ended Open Editions
Jonathan and Matt catch up over open edition hype, ordinals, and who knows what else!

Speculations on NonExistentTokens w/ Sarah Meyohas
Sarah Meyohas on conceptual crypto art history, Bitchcoin, prompt generation as artistic medium, the relationship between human labor and art, art as alchemy, and so so much more.

Music NFT Aggregation: Which is the Right(s) Way?
A thorough dialogue between web3 musicians Verite and Black Dave on the topic of music NFT aggregators, the forces of innovation, and the direction they’d each like to see the web3 music space go.

We're all still NEW HERE w/ Dan Sickles
Sundance winning director Dan Sickles joins us to talk about NEW HERE, his documentary about the NFT ecosystem and culture that, of course, uniquely exists within the world of NFTs. We talk peculiarities of Hollywood's production model, web3's flexible identity model, how the film engages with digital ownership, and much more.

Bid to Earn? The GBM Auction Mechanic
Hugo from myNFT gives us the illustrious, 5 year journey of his team, talks NFT standards and walks us through a novel digital auction format they call a GBM auction.

Kaigani on What Mxtters
We catch up with Kaigani, famous decompiler of the CryptoKitty genome, and chat PFPs, Meebits DAO, his ArtBlocks projects, artist sustainability, Hollywood and of course his current project, Mxtter.

Hidden in the Ether: NFT Archaeology w/ Adam McBride
NFT Historian Adam McBride tells us how he scans for gold amongst the dust of the past: finding and identifying old NFT contracts, resurrecting prescient projects, and reconstructing the timeline of on-chain digital ownership.

Royalties are Dead, Long Live Royalties (w/Mitchell F. Chan)
Iconic conceptual artists Mitchel F. Chan walks us through the ongoing debate about NFT artist royalties in the wake of Sudoswap’s dismissale and his EIP’s solution.

Tomb Time w/ David Rudnick
We chat with David Rudnick about his practice and so much more, including the Tomb Series and each Tomb’s curatorial powers, sustainable and evolutionary objects, Stems I, II, III, and IV.

Season 3: Now, The Future, And We’re Still Here
WE ARE BACK FOR SEASON 3 BABY!

Then And Now: 4 Years of Digitally Rare
Matt and Jonathan celebrate Digitally Rare’s 4 year anniversary by listening to some old clips and wondering how we got here.
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JPG2k + Digitally Rare = [this podcast]
It's a crossover episode! Well, almost. Matt did not wake up in time, and so Jonathan talks solo with Noah and Viv from the excellent NFT pod, JPG2k. We cover everything from Noah's new Chicken's NFT project, to how they got into NFTs and all kinds of other great NFT content.

Emitting and Admitting — 'Amends' for ETH
With his project 'Amends’, Kyle McDonald measures NFT activity on Ethereum during PoW and captures the historical emissions of three NFT marketplaces as handmade glass sculptures, to be auctioned during the merge, when Ethereum switches to Proof of Stake.

Out of Chaos: 45 Tracks
Matthew Chaim from SongCamp comes on the pod to discuss Chaos, the SongCamp's headless band, formed and re-formed each week, which produced 45 tracks in 6 weeks.

web3 could be going a few different ways
We chat with Molly White—author of 'web3 is going great'—and proudly join the ranks of those who have failed to convince her that blockchains might actually be pretty neat. We chat negative externalities, the power of economic incentives, and whether or not the NFT in Matt's hand is morally ok.

Choosing Peacefall (Or Not!)
Cameron Koczon from Fictive Kin brings us to a land of warriors and fighters battling it out on Ethereum to gain levels and be the very best that ever was.

Welcome to the BoysClub
Boys Club is social club and soon-to-be DAO that is welcoming the next 1 million women and non-binary people to web3. Their supporter NFTs launch to the public on May 14th, 2022.

Immateriality is in My Jeans
Kevin Esherick walks us (hah) through Material, a continuous art project exploring materiality, tangibility, and the ephemeral, via an absolutely sick pair of jeans.

pr1s0n.art — Restoring Justice And The Dignity of Returning Citizens

Ampl(ed) Reasons to Join a MetaLabel
Austin Robey (@austinrobey_) joins us to discuss the Bandcamp ➡️ Epic sale, the CryptoPunks ➡️ Yuga sale, and alternative organizational principles for communities, collectives, and a novel structure of the 'think-and-do tank’ that Austin calls the METALABEL.

Disco: A Digital Backpack For the LARP That Is Your Life
We chat with Evin (@provenauthority) about what’s-old-is-new technology standards that Disco is using to encourage a user-centric model of the web. Tune in to learn about Verified Credentials, Decentralized Identifiers, and all about Disco’s tech.

free jesus pamphlet fast cash money cash plus dot biz crypto god king condiments
A whimsical journey in which we bring steviep into a not-so-abandoned stairwell and discuss the mark of the beast, fast cash money cash plus dot biz, jesus pamphlets, discarded condiment packages, and the conceptual brilliance of free tokens.

Rule Breakers Following Rules
Rule-based art, speedruns, derived digitally scarcity, craft & care & flow states & attention over time, defining constraints and iterating in surprising ways within them, legibility vs complexity, desert society, and generative art transforming from an artist’s tool into the artist itself.

Song A (Finally) Done!
Matt gets high and Jonathan reinvents RSS (again). We shit-talk beniemaxi and discuss SongADAO, why Matt can’t stop buying conceptual art NFTs, the map and the territory, the temporal nature of information, steviep, and religion.

Wen Pete Davidson & Kim Kardashian Sex Tape?
The Most Famous Artist(s) collective is rewriting the rules of the art world w/ collaborative art careers, building a literal city, how brands should embrace web3 in ways that don’t suck, why the innovator’s dilemma doesn’t apply to discord, what ConstitutionDAO did wrong, gas prices (lol), how to save the world with NFTs, and the art-ification of route 66 into the American cultural highway. Also RIP Virgil.

Socialism? On My Blockchain? It’s More Common Than You Think!
The Blockchain Socialist & the boys deal with the haters, talk about Cybersyn, discuss how DAOs are just cooperatives, and how libertarians rediscovered sociocracy.

Listen To This Space! w/ Latashá
Latashá and your hosts get into music x crypto, education, and the opportunity of building a new system with new tools.

w*b3, and N/F/Ts, w/ Dan Olson
SPICY TAKES from both sides as we deep dive with web3/NFT skeptic Dan Olson of Folding Ideas. We ask and get asked the hard questions about what web3 is about, and whether the dominate powers of yesteryear have their claws in the future.

DADA.art: Parenting the Crypto Art Movement
We catch up with Judy and Bea to see where dada.art, a pioneering 2017 digital art movement is today, following the relaunch of their iconic 2017 collection Creeps and Weirdos.

A RAW Discussion w/ Luis of Fingerprints
Luis from Fingerprints discusses DeFi + NFTs, scaling a Dao from 15 to 200 members, photography finding its medium in NFTs, and the power of community.

An In-Depth (Troll) Debrief
Matt and Jonathan decompress from the wild ride that was August 2021, and chat about the Fuckin’ Trolls and their Tunes, the Doge NFT, SHL0MS’ toilet, sushi’ing OpenSea (#first), PaperclipDAO, NFT Archeology, Loot, and AMULETSSSSS.

Off and Lifeforms: Is This an Art? (Yes)
We catch up with artist Sarah Friend (@isthisanart_)—starting with stories from NFT history past—and learn about Off, a coordination experiment with NFT art and Lifeforms, digital NFT entities that one must keep alive. 🌱

NFTs for (Offline!) Community, w/ HOLDERSLAND
Haleek Maul is using his NFTs to bootstrap and support a Caribbean creator community, online and off, called HOLDERSLAND.

How Now, Noun DAO? (4156 Interview)
Punk 4156 talks the Nouns visio, covering innovative IP, governance, and cinematic universe b. Also: PFPs as a new medium.

The Song That Owns Itself
Aubrey Anderson and George Howard helped create STOI, the Song That Owns Itself — they experiment with modern crypto-based royalty and licensing, on-chain governance, and human-facing interactive AI, all in the name of the autonomous entity that is God Particle.

A Poppin’ Profile Picture Project Party
Learn why profile picture NFTs took off recently! Plus, we drop knowledge on NFTs + social spaces, talk shit about NFT projects discuss how vested interests shape online narratives, and matt introduces a new protocol called Epoxy.

Cataloging What Works w/ Jeremy Stern
Supporting musicians, building on top of Zora, and the social dynamics of music listening and ownership with Jeremy Stern, the co-founder of Catalog.

Music Royalties, but make it DeFi
Gary Young from Royalty Exchange gives us a look inside the music industry and how we might use NFTs to invest directly into an artist's off-chain royalties.

In Which We Vibe With Austin Griffith
Literally just a delightful conversation with the lovely builder of all things Ethereum, Austin Griffith.

Thinking Outside the Glitchbox: 0xDEAFBEEF's On-Chain Generative Art
Generative artist 0xDEAFBEEF constantly pushes the edges of on-chain generative art—we chat about how and why his projects are exploring the boundaries of the medium of generative art.

Welcome to the Cool Zone (of Immaterial Pictorial Sensibility)
How conceptual artist Yves Klein predicted 2021 in 1958, and how the digital manifestation of his work was brought to life in 2017—just after CryptoPunks—by Mitchell Chan.

The Matthew and Rizzle Show… on Digitally Rare!
Matthew and Rizzle join us to react to the Christie’s punk auction, talk meebits & the metaverse, and uncover the bored ape conspiracy.

AMMs, MATT Auctions, and NFT MySpace
We shoot the shit on current events, talk about automated market makers w/ NFTs, go over Dan Finlay’s MATT auction mechanic, and arrive at the intersection of identity, self-expression, and social networking.

Open Science and NFT Funding w/ Matt Stephenson
Why was the cure for scurvy lost for years after its discovery? Why has a potentially revolutionary diet gone un-trialed for years? Matt Stephenson walks us thought his work with Planck to change the incentives around open science, funding, and research attribution.

NFT Questions From The Urbit Chat
Imagine lounge chairs against a rain-dipped window, fire raging, and lofi emanating from the beyond — we talk current NFT news and answer insightful questions from pseudonymous internet people on urbit.

An NFT Conversation to Vibe To
A casual descent into the rabbit hole of hedonic value.

DeFi x NFTs — A Guided Tour of Non-Fungible Decentralized Finance
Dan Elitzer, founder of the MIT Bitcoin Club and Nascent, gives us a guided tour of the world of DeFi and NFTs—how do we build DeFi-first, with more personal economic systems; when should or shouldn’t we lean into the financialization of everything; the power of protocol defaults & consciously-applied friction; the distribution of scarce resources; assessing and unlocking value trapped in under-utilized NFTs; and the power of experimenting at the edges of what’s possible.

Simon de la Rouviere, the Mad Scientist of Crypto Art
Autonomous generative artists, Ethereum archaeology, bonding curves, NFT graveyards, harberger taxes, creative monetization, open licenses, and a novel about all of those things—come with us on a tour of the crypto art world with Simon de la Rouviere.

The Art-knowing Artnome
Jason Bailey of Artnome brings us into the future with comments on the past, how subcultures change, and ...mops?

Urbit ID Is An NFT
We break down why anyone would want to own a digital—or analog, for that matter—object as we chat with Galen Wolfe-Pauly of Urbit. Urbit is a novel re-architecture of computers and the web that tracks social and cryptographic identity on Ethereum as an NFT. Listen to see how the Urbit ID system is a perfect illustration of our ownership-value-framework.

We're Back! New Year, New Season
After a long hiatus that saw both Matt and Jonathan stepping away from the NFT space to work on other projects, we are BACK and ready to start a whole new chapter of Digitally Rare.
This is a mini-episode to say hello, and deal with an NFT conundrum that Jonathan has been thinking about. He's finally launching the Song A Day NFT project! See the first tokenized Song A Day here.
A real new episode will drop a week from today, where we speak with Galen of Tlon, who's making Urbit. It's a fascinating conversation.
We have a whole new format we're working on for the show, and a ton of great interviews already in the can.

Clovers: Growing Art at Home with Billy Rennekamp

Art Thou an ArtDAO, Abraham.ai?
He calls it Abraham AI. When it gets up and running, it'll autonomously produce NFTs.
And you can be involved!
Read the blog post: medium.com/@genekogan/artist-in-the-cloud-8384824a75c7

Tough Love and Hot Takes (Live in NYC @ RareAF2)
This episode was recorded on location at the 2nd ever Rare Art Fest in Bushwick Brooklyn on May 18th, 2019! It features a staggering array of NFT/crypto art luminaries:
Joe Looney of Rare Pepe and Freeport Jason Bailey of ArtnomeSimon de la Rouviere of many, many thingsJason Rosenstein of PortionFanny Lakoubay of Nifty.SupplyJessica Angel of #artproject Decentralized and TruebitJonathan Perkins and John Crain of SuperRareChris Robison of Hoarde
It was a blast to record, and I hope you enjoy listening to it!

Great Artists Take a Measured Approach to Shipping
It's a shill or be shilled world.

A Discussion With Some OG Crypto Punks
- The state of art on the blockchain - specifically the ways that the traditional digital art market is already just a crappy blockchain, basically.- What's different about launching an NFT project now vs two years ago.
- Pause functions in Ethereum.
- Choon, and the perils of launching a blockchain project that people seem to really love.
- An abandoned Larva Labs NFT project idea.
and much much more!

Every Crypto Network Is A Game
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Also: T SHIRTS! They're still for sale! bit.ly/drshirt as of 4/9/19, you have 6 days left until they're gone forever.

Gumby Is The Most Flexible Business Partner
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Also: We are selling t-shirts! They are only on sale from 4/1 - 4/17, and after that, you'll never be able to get this version of the shirt again. The shirt is intentionally misspelled, based on the time when I accidentally misspelled the word "digitally" on our logo.
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Accessible Privacy is Cool Beans- A Talk with Elena
Also, since Elena used to work at AirBnB, Jonathan shares his story of the time he wrote a jingle for the founders...

Sharing Ideas about Idea Sharing with Planck
He tells two amazing illustrative stories, one about a 16th century royal obstetrician, the other about ancient cultures that used stone tablets as "money".

The Hunting of The Snark.Art (with Fanny Lakoubay)
We also get a little education on how digital media has been considered "scarce" up until now in the field of fine art.

From Devcon To A Japanese Hospital Phone Booth

NFT-Shirts?! Matt Says Yes, Please! (With Dani Grant from Union Sq Ventures)

Skiing On Bits! (with Saya from Bitski)

Digitally. Rare. Memes. Roll Credits! (w/ Brady McKenna from District0x)
Register for the Non Fungible Summit, Friday October 12th in San Francisco!
Participate in Jonathan's Initial Song Offering!

Top Five Crypto Collectible Wishlist

The Last Non-Crypto Designer In The World
I (this is Jonathan writing) was excited to have Ben on the show because he's the first non-crypto tech friend that I've seen in my feed getting excited about NFTs. Ben is the co-founder of Svpply and was creative director of Electric Objects and has made all kinds of insanely interesting internet projects. He's currently working on a startup in the Crypto Art space, but it's super hush hush, so shhhhh. We talk about his journey into the heart of crypto, specifically, we talk all AROUND his stealth start up.
And we talk about Ben's dream of using the form of a startup as an art project, and his early attempt at this with Dead Bookstore.
And we talk a bit about the MLB collectibles debacle, and get into the weeds on the Axiom/Dapper Labs NIFTY trademark dispute.
It's a good one folks!

The Space Between The Token and The image (With Joe Looney!)
