
The Dove and Rose
By Walter Emerson
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The Dove and RoseJun 19, 2023

Bonus Podcast - The Dove and Rose About Page
In this Bonus Podcast episode, I am reading my About Page. This page is essential to understanding this devotion to St. Joan and St. Thérèse. The page is also quite extensive, requiring significant meditative attention. The reader will find a phenomenological model founded on Catholic metaphysics that has universal applicability despite being an expression of my own experience. I hope you will enter, meditate, contemplate, and join St. Joan and St. Thérèse on the journey!

S6E3 - Discussing The Dance of Reason in my book Journey to Christendom
In this episode, I discuss a significant juncture on my journey with St. Joan and St. Thérèse: The Dance of Reason.

S6E2 - Discussing the first section of my book, Journey to Christendom
Welcome to episode two of season six! This season, I am discussing my book, Journey to Christendom - the Freedom Dance. Each week, I post a chapter to my one of my books. You can buy them on Amazon or become a paid subscriber and read along each week. As a paid subscriber, you can make comments and join the chats to discuss the essential points in each chapter.
In this episode, I have a general overview of the first section of the book. You will hear me reveal what is hidden beneath the text. There are hidden expressions waiting to be discovered. Listen now as I explain how in the beginning of my first book, I wrote wrongly, but that ended up being the point!
Journey to Christendom is the story of one man's wonder-filled spiritual exodus out of the Dark Forest and into a land of freedom and joy on a path called the Trail of the Dogmatic Creed of Roman Catholicism. This book leads the reader on a spiritual journey with the Virgin Mary, St. Thérèse of Lisieux, St. Joan of Arc, and other saints of the Church. You will dance out of the Dark Forest of the modern materialistic culture, across the dangerous Bridge of Reason, through stormy valleys of mental and physical suffering, and, finally, to the magnificent land of destiny to meet the King, Jesus Christ, Savior of humanity. Journey to Christendom is a testimony about finding peace, joy, and life-giving meaning through the Catholic Faith.

S6E1 - Discussing the Forward to my book, Journey to Christendom
Welcome to season 6! This season, I am discussing my book, Journey to Christendom - the Freedom Dance.
Today, I am talking through the two main themes in the Forward: The relevancy of St. Joan of Arc in our contemporary world and the question of how to gain a fresh perspective on the Church in an unprecedented age of nihilism and post-modernism. Importantly, I discuss the Second Vatican Council.
Each week, I post a chapter to my books. You can buy them on Amazon or become a paid subscriber on Substack and read along each week. Join me as a paid subscriber in discussing the essential points in each chapter.
Journey to Christendom is the story of one man's wonder-filled spiritual exodus out of the Dark Forest and into a land of freedom and joy on a path called the Trail of the Dogmatic Creed of Roman Catholicism. This book leads the reader on a spiritual journey with the Virgin Mary, St. Thérèse of Lisieux, St. Joan of Arc, and other saints of the Church. You will dance out of the Dark Forest of the modern materialistic culture, across the dangerous Bridge of Reason, through stormy valleys of mental and physical suffering, and, finally, to the magnificent land of destiny to meet the King, Jesus Christ, Savior of humanity. Journey to Christendom is a testimony about finding peace, joy, and life-giving meaning through the Catholic Faith.

S5E8 - Joining St. Joan of Arc on her mission
St. Thérèse participated in Joan's mission through prayers, plays, and poetry; let us join them.
This episode closes the season on St. Joan of Arc using Régine Pernoud’s book, Joan of Arc - Her Story. This might seem like a hasty finish to Joan’s tale. We concluded the previous episode with the crowning of King Charles. The ceremony in Rheims reveals Joan of Arc in her earthly glory. She victoriously celebrates the fulfillment of Heaven’s command.
However, we know there is much more to her story. Entire seasons could be devoted to the “second half” of Joan’s quest beyond her home village of Domrémy. But we have not focused primarily on her history in these discussions. The point has been the phenomenology of her appearance on the world stage and how that manifestation relates to our lives today. This last point is precisely what I bring together here.
St. Thérèse of Lisieux participated with St. Joan’s mission centuries after Joan’s death. Thérèse was more than inspired by Joan. Thérèse participated in Joan’s mission. I explain that mystical relationship in this episode and invite the listener to participate also, now in our temporal sphere, with St. Joan and St. Thérèse. Joan’s earthly mission was to fifteenth century France, but her heavenly mission extends through the ages. Together St. Joan and St. Thérèse are the “combined hearts” of the Dove and Rose and the most beautiful color in the Heavens.

S5E7 - St. Joan of Arc crowns a King
Despite the English efforts, Joan bested them once again.
Joan of Arc defeated the English at Orléans and lifted the siege. She convinced the Dauphin, Charles VII, to march to Reims for his coronation against the advice of his other captains. Joan wins the day and leads Charles through the enemy Burgundian territory to Reims.
Mark Twain refers to this march as a miracle, one he calls the “bloodless march.” Town after town swears allegiance to Charles, and enthusiasm for his crowning grows. People take to the roads to join Joan and her Dauphin!
Not everyone is happy, however. The English sympathizers in Reims are forced to leave with the prospect of Joan’s army arriving soon. They take much of the coronation regalia to discredit Charles’ coronation. However, they leave the most important coronation artifact - the Holy Oil used by every French King from the time of Clovis.
Despite the English efforts, Joan bested them once again. She has the location (Reims), the Holy Oil, and the archbishop for the ceremony.
At Reims, Joan of Arc kneels and hugs the newly crowned King by the legs. She did what God commanded her to do.

S5E6 - "Act and God will act!" ~ St. Joan of Arc
St. Joan reveals a fundamental characteristic of her spirituality. “Act and God will act!” Joan shouted to the Duke of Alençon as they prepared for battle at Jargeau. The Duke had been hesitant to take on the reinforced bastille in the Loire Valley. He was hesitant no more.
We witnessed Joan of Arc’s sensational victory at Orléans that broke the back of the English siege. The English withdrew but retreated to other bastilles in the area. Joan has the wind at her back, and devotees are building. Her army - Charles VII’s army - is larger and more inspired than ever. Against the conventional wisdom of her captains, she persuades Charles to march to Reims for his coronation. However, to make that march, the Loire Valley must be cleared out to protect the French rear guard on the way. Charles puts the Duke of Alençon in charge of this operation with Joan of Arc at his side. They began at Jargeau.
In this episode, I stress the fundamental nature of Joan of Arc’s spirituality. It is “Act and God will act.” This saying is remarkably close to her answer at Poitiers when asked why God needs an army to do his will. “The men will fight, and God will bring the victory.” Receiving Joan of Arc as she gives herself to us demands more than inspiring thoughts. Her influence demands action and a change in our day-to-day orientation toward God and the divine order.

S5E5 - Joan of Arc Bonus Episode
Articles of St. Joan's intercession - how Joan of Arc is perceived in the phenomenology of The Dove and Rose.
This is a bonus episode in the middle of our journey with St. Joan. Here, I reveal an interpretation of St. Joan of Arc’s intercessory influence with regard to the phenomenology of The Dove and Rose. It is my subjective perception based on how Joan is perceived in my spiritual life based on who she is and the conditions by which the Lord and Our Lady reveal her in the Dove and Rose devotion. Joan of Arc is such that in the phenomenology of the The Dove and Rose, she can be perceived in this manner by the light of the public revelation proclaimed and guarded by the Holy Catholic Church. The listener’s perception may be different; however, I hope this provides an inspiration to you on your journey with St. Joan and St. Thérèse!
We have been walking with St. Joan through Régine Pernoud’s book, Joan of Arc - Her Story. The quotes in this episode are all taken from that book. We ended the previous episode with Joan freeing Orléans in remarkable style! On this January 6, the celebration of Joan of Arc’s birthday, I hope this episode provides a refreshing respite on our journey. We still have more to go with St. Joan!

S5E4 - Joan of Arc frees Orléans and us with it
Joan of Arc is in Orléans! She is the “appearance of hope appearing” for the city of Orléans. Like the French people in general, the citizens of Orléans have been demoralized beyond repair from a natural standpoint. Joan, though, is bringing hope on a supernatural level. And, she begins her exploits that will prove her claims that her mission is divine. The Bastille of Saint-Loup is taken by her forces, followed by the Augustinian. On May 7, 1429 she takes the most important Bastille of them all, Les Tourelles. This frees Orléans and forces the English to pull out entirely from the city.
Her miraculous victory sends shock waves through Europe. Stories become embellished. The truth is inspiring and wonder-filled as it is, but now even these are growing into mythologies. How do we come to understand the true essence of Joan of Arc? How do we come to know her as she presents herself from herself in our lives? We can begin with a correlation of the freeing of Orléans to our own lives. Perhaps we have been freed from a spiritual siege through St. Joan’s intercession and sisterly care. Can we correlate our map of meaning to hers?

S5E3 - Joan of Arc's phenomenological appearance at Orléans
Dunois encounters Joan through a powerful phenomenological understanding.
This is perhaps the most important episode in Season 5 thus far. We do not cover much ground in Régine Pernoud’s book, Joan of Arc - Her Story - only a few paragraphs. However, these paragraphs are “saturated” with meaning - to use a phenomenological term. What I share here could make for days of contemplation on the meaning of Joan of Arc’s life and her mission. She has arrived at Orléans with her army. She meets Dunois for the first time. And something happens. Dunois receives a “divine glance” (re: St. Thérèse) or “unreflective certainty” (re: Edith Stein). Dunois is very phenomenologically tuned in to Joan and what she represents just as Jean de Metz was in Vaucouleurs. Certain key people seem to have received the blessing of seeing Joan for what she represented. In the shadow of the field of meaning surrounding her, was “the appearance of Hope appearing.”
As a bonus, I open this discussion with short reading from My Vocation is Love - St. Thérèse’s Way to Total Trust by Jean Lafrance. When I speak of Joan, I am always also speaking of someone else. St. Thérèse! It is through Thérèse’s heart I came to understand Joan. Joan is the Dove and Thérèse is the Rose.

S5E2 - Joan of Arc's Platonic understanding of France
Joan of Arc is the embodiment of a supernatural union between metaphysics and phenomenology.
Joan of Arc is preparing her army for the march to free Orléans from the English siege. She makes her way from Poitiers to Chinon and then to Tours where she is fitted for armor. Joan requests that a sword be retrieved that sits behind the altar at the church of St. Catherine of Fierbois. However, amidst the preparation we have a rare opportunity to understand more of Joan’s map of meaning. We are looking at Joan for her perspective, and she is showing us God’s perspective. Joan has a very Platonic understanding of France, one that points upward to the social Kingship of Christ and not downward to cultural triumphalism. Joan of Arc is a phenomenon. To understand her more deeply and meaningfully, we need a phenomenological perspective. Joan shows herself to be the embodiment of a supernatural union of metaphysics and phenomenology. Each remains uniquely its own, while Joan unifies them in truth, beauty, and goodness through the grace at work in her.

S5E1 - Joan of Arc's letter to the English
Joan reveals her Platonic orientation - and it's astonishing.
We are beginning a new season in our discovery of St. Joan of Arc! We are observing her through the lens of Régine Pernoud’s book, Joan of Arc - Her Story. We finished last season with Joan in Poitiers where she successfully won the hearts and minds of the theologians questioning her on behalf of the Dauphin, Charles VII. We discussed how she won these hearts through their phenomenological perception of her being. In season 5 we are preparing to move from Joan convincing others to Joan acting. In episode 1 we begin with the letter she dictated to the English while still in Poitiers. It is an astonishing communication to say the least. Importantly, this is our first opportunity to hear Joan express herself and the meaning of her mission freely. This is not eye-witness testimony; it is Joan herself. The hero of our story is expressing herself as she understands herself in light of the mission given to her by Heaven.

S4E9 - St. Joan of Arc is the appearance of Hope appearing
The phenomenological unity of Joan’s character gives us an intuitive sense of truth.
We are in the last stages of Joan’s trial at Poitiers where the Dauphin, Charles VII, hopes to gain assurance about her from his trusted theologians. The closing of the trial and Joan’s triumphant return to Chinon with the blessing of the judges proves remarkable almost beyond compare. In this episode I discuss how it is that Joan of Arc changes the hearts and minds of all the key people involved in her mission. It is a revelation of Hope given through an intuitive sense of truth based on the unity of Joan’s character. The theologians ask for “signs” that they might be convinced. Joan gives no such signs. What she does give them is a phenomenological sense of truth and a revelation of Hope. Joan gives them the phenomenology of her own being which proves to be more persuasive than any material “sign.” A breathtaking contemplation for us!

S4E8 - St. Joan of Arc merges phenomenology and medieval metaphysics
Joan's story continues to reflect the "appearance of her appearing" in history.
Joan won over the Dauphin, Charles VII. However, she must still be tested by the theologians in Poitiers. In this episode more of Joan of Arc is revealed as history reveals her. We discover yet more mystery. This young seventeen-year-old woman makes a reference to her lasting “one year, hardly more.” What could this mean? Her newly assigned page Louis de Coutes is impressed by her seeming fervent prayers offered in solitude. The ecclesiastical court in Poitiers is equally impressed with Joan’s character and demeanor. “I would really like to have had so fine a daughter,” reflected one member. Most importantly, the historical context of Joan’s life widens a bit more based on her testimony. We learn more about her past, but this is nothing in comparison to the astonishing revelation of what inspired her to begin her project in the first place and venture into danger to see the King.

S4E7 - St. Joan of Arc inspires in us a love for her that is divine
"Her words put me on fire, inspiring in me a love for her that was, I believe, divine.”
In the previous episode, we learned more about the historical context through which the phenomenon of Joan of Arc appears in history. We still do not know from where she comes originally, nor anything regarding her childhood. However, we do know that she came to Chinon with her troop of six or so soldiers from the loyal outpost of Vaucouleurs in the far northwestern region of now occupied France.
In this episode, for the first time, we learn something about Joan’s essence, that is, about who Joan of Arc really is. One of her most loyal fellow travellers, Jean de Metz, states it as follows:
Her words put me on fire, inspiring in me a love for her that was, I believe, divine.Every encounter with Joan is like confronting a divine fire. Everywhere she goes and with everyone she meets, Joan overcomes significant skepticism and opposition. She wins them over with this “fire of divine love.” In this episode she begins to win over the dauphin, Charles VII.

S4E6 - St. Joan of Arc dramatically unifies metaphysics and phenomenology
St. Joan of Arc is a phenomenon with an astonishing metaphysical vision and mission.
In this episode we are going to witness Catholic metaphysics collide with phenomenology through the person of St. Joan of Arc. Following French historian Régine Pernoud into chapter two of her book, Joan of Arc - Her Story, we stand with the people of Chinon as Joan enters with her troupe. We are curious. Who are they? Who is she? Where did they come from? Why are they here?
We will discover a bit more about St. Joan of Arc such as where she departed to reach Chinon and what the circumstances were surrounding her departure. The listener might be astonished at what we uncover. While Joan still remains a mystery, we nevertheless can sense that transcendent metaphysics and phenomenology are bursting forth through her like the sunlight on the horizon at dawn.
The “appearance of the story appearing” emerges through the mist in that sunlight.

S4E5 - Receiving Joan of Arc as she desires to be received
We receive a response to our inquiry about Joan of Arc.
Dunois receives a response to his inquiry about the mysterious maiden crossing France just south of Orléans, the city he is defending during the English siege. The maid is real. The fairytale is true. The legend of France being saved by a maiden from Lorraine manifests in the historical person of Joan of Arc. In order to understand this phenomenon more clearly, Régine Pernoud reveals a little more of the historical context. We are not studying Joan of Arc’s life by obtaining information to derive meaning - we are beginning with the meaning of her life so as to understand the information we want to obtain! Joan is the now the center of our intentionality. She is the reference by which we study the facts around her. We are learning so as to uncover a mystery - the mystery of Joan of Arc.

S4E4 - Building a map of meaning with St. Joan of Arc
As Joan emerges from the mist in our hearts, we establish nodes of meaning.
In this episode I help you begin the process of building your “map of meaning” under the inspiring patronage of St. Joan of Arc. We are moving forward in our discussion of the phenomenology of Joan of Arc’s life. However, we have not yet moved from Dunois’ side at the opening of chapter one as he gazes over the Loire river in the direction of a mysterious maiden rumored to be moving across France. Régine Pernoud’s approach to this book is phenomenological, and we see that in real history, Dunois himself received the mystery of Joan of Arc phenomenologically! There is so much packed into the opening paragraphs of chapter one that demands to be explored before moving on. The mystery of Joan of Arc and our inquiry into her will establish the foundation for building a map of meaning to begin interpreting this fairytale-like phenomenon.

S4E3 - The Journey with St. Joan of Arc as a living spiritual rosary for Our Lady
Our Lady as the archetype for our phenomenological inquiry into St. Joan of Arc.
In this episode I discuss how to turn our journey on the Trail of the Dogmatic Creed with St. Joan of Arc and St. Thérèse into a living, spiritual rosary for Our Lady. The Blessed Virgin Mary in the Annunciation is the archetype of our own phenomenological inquiry. We pursue Joan through the meadows, over the creeks, across the rivers, and beyond the snow-capped mountains as our guide leading us to Our Lord’s Kingdom in the distance. The Blessed Virgin is our model, and our journey with Thérèse in pursuit of Joan becomes a living spiritual rosary in the Immaculate Heart of Mary as the mystery unfolds.

S4E2 - How to walk phenomenologically with St. Joan and St. Thérèse
Understanding St. Joan and St. Thérèse's "states-of-affairs."
In episode 2 I walk you through a more structured approach to our phenomenological journey with St. Joan of Arc and St. Thérèse of Lisieux on the Trail of the Dogmatic Creed. Importantly I introduce you to a concept in St. Teresa Benedicta of the Cross’ (Edith Stein’s) book Finite and Eternal Being. You will learn about describing St. Joan and St. Thérèse’s “states-of-affairs” as meaningful phenomena in your life. Typically we study them as “objects” with historical dates, characteristics, achievements, writings, and such. However, we want to begin describing them as we receive them phenomenologically. I’ll walk you through how to get started!

S4E1 - The Dove and Rose - Phenomenology with St. Joan and St. Thérèse
St. Joan of Arc and St. Thérèse join us now on the journey!
Welcome to a new season! Why season four and what is it about?
Up to this point my discussions have been quite conceptual, and there is a reason for that. However, I sense that the time is right to begin making this phenomenological journey on the Trail of the Dogmatic Creed with St. Joan and St. Thérèse more concrete. I want to ask them to join us now. Rather than speaking about them and their influence on us, why not speak more with them? In this episode, I am introducing stories from their lives that you can contemplate to begin your own “descriptive phenomenology.” Season four will build on this modality of expression.

S3E7 - "Receiving" the heart of St. Joan of Arc
Phenomenological devotion to St. Joan is receiving what she is giving.
We are moving now into phenomenology as we journey on the Trail of the Dogmatic Creed with St. Joan of Arc and St. Thérèse. In the last episode, we rediscovered the metaphysics of the Church. St. Joan turned around our glasses so we could see. We bumped up against the unchanging forms of Truth, Beauty, and Goodness in an Augustinian Platonic orientation. Now, we are wondering how to “receive” this transcendent blessing. The beautiful ideas in our head are inspiring; however, those ideas do not seem to connect with our lived experience! “Receiving” that transcendent blessing requires a phenomenological approach. Our goal is to “receive” the heart of St. Joan - to “receive” what she is “giving.”

S3E6 - The first discovery on the journey with St. Joan of Arc
St. Joan turned my glasses around so I could see road signs.
In the previous episode, we arrived at the moment when Joan of Arc became the center of my intentionality. Her importance to my life became branded in my soul. It was a “divine glance” of grace. In this episode we move forward with her along the Trail of the Dogmatic Creed - the trail of understanding but not knowing what we understand. St. Thérèse remains at our side, and the “Thérèsian effect” of understanding but not knowing becomes a phenomenological journey guarded on each side of the trail by the metaphysics and magisterium of the Church in its public revelation. We cross over from descriptive phenomenology to a more metaphysical attentiveness to Truth, Beauty, and Goodness. Edith Stein introduces us to the combined world of metaphysics and phenomenology through The Science of the Cross. Joan turns my glasses around so I can see the signs on the pathway. We cross with St. Joan and St. Thérèse over to a world of Augustinian Platonic order.

S3E5 - From the Dark Woods to my moment with St. Joan of Arc
Receiving St. Joan through the heart and mind of St. Thérèse.
In this episode we escape from the Dark Forest of despair and suffering through the devotion and prayers of my family and the help of the saints. Encouraged by my wife to attend a six day silent retreat in the Poconos, I found myself before a statue of the Blessed Virgin Mary where I was healed - mind, body, and soul. A couple of years later, I came across the following poem written by St. Thérèse in honor of St. Joan:
To Joan of ArcWhen the Lord God of Hosts gave you the victory,
You drove out the foreigner and had the king crowned.
Joan, your name became renowned in history.
Our greatest conquerors paled before you.
But that was only a fleeting glory.
Your name needed a Saint's halo.
So the Beloved offered you his bitter cup,
And, like Him, you were spurned by men.
At the bottom of a black dungeon, laden with heavy chains,
The cruel foreigner filled you with grief.
Not one of your friends took part in your pain.
Not one came forward to wipe your tears.
Joan, in your dark prison you seem to me
More radiant, more beautiful than at your king's coronation.
This heavenly reflection of eternal glory,
Who then brought it upon you?
It was betrayal.
Ah! If the God of love in this valley of tears
Had not come to seek betrayal and death,
Suffering would hold no attraction for us.
Now we love it, it is our treasure.
~ St. Therese of Lisieux. The Poetry of Saint Therese of Lisieux (p. 177). ICS Publications. Kindle Edition.
That was the moment I received the “unreflective certainty” regarding the role St. Joan was to play in my life. St. Thérèse’s Kingdom was before me as a mystery, partially hidden. My journey was toward that Kingdom. St. Joan was to be my guide.

S3E4 - Lost in the Dark Forest
When my way of understanding the world interfaced with St. Thérèse's - her way endured while mine collapsed.
We are in the Dark Forest. We entered through a disconnect between our worldly reasoning and that of St. Thérèse. Through the “Thérèsian affect” we understood without knowing. We turned our being toward her. We empathized. However, we did not know what constituted this “understanding,” “meaning,”and “being-toward.”
Now we are deeper in the Dark Forest, experiencing immense spiritual, emotional, and physical suffering as the result. The “unreflective certainty” at the moment of conversion endures, while in our old mindset - we collapse. The Dark Forest is scary, and we encounter this “enduring meaning” by directly facing our own temporal death.
There is a way out. It will require help from friends. We need to leave the Dark Forest reconstituted in order to join St. Joan of Arc on her mission to the Kingdom. Next episode!

S3E3 - A phenomenologically reoriented intellect through the "Thérèsian affect"
What St. Thérèse is saying is true - I just don't know what she is saying.
We are entering the Dark Forest! In this episode we take our first steps after my conversion to the Catholic Church on the Feast Day of St. Thérèse in the year 1984. I came to understand that what Thérèse was saying was true - I just did not know what it was that she was saying!
I call this phenomenological experience the “Thérèsian affect.”
Reflecting on the past, particularly through journaling, is a way to remove the cover, the hiddenness, from our inauthentic being in the world and reveal our true authentic selves. I am walking the Trail of the Dogmatic Creed with you by reflecting on my past as it phenomenologically appears to me. I invite you to do the same. Step out of the mindless, day-today and enter into a reflection.
Thérèse established a new mindset in me. I had been given new life in the Church - the Eucharist and the Blessed Virgin Mary - through the “Thérèsian affect.” However, my intellect and sense of meaning and being in the world was still framed in the old inauthenticity of mindless everydayness. I suffered immensely for many years.

S3E2 - The phenomenology of St. Thérèse of Lisieux that initiated my journey
The Virgin Mary, my conversion, and reading St. Thérèse.
This episode takes us back to the beginning of the phenomenological journey on the Trail of the Dogmatic Creed with St. Joan and St. Thérèse! In the last episode, I introduced you to the moment in the year 2008 when I was inspired through contemplation to respond to Our Lady’s insistence that “if I had something I felt I needed to say, I should probably start saying it.” However, to understand that moment we must now turn to the very beginning in the year 1984. This was the year of my conversion to the Catholic Church and my introduction to St. Thérèse.
I understood St. Thérèse before I came to know St. Thérèse. I understood her message before I came to know what it was. The principle that understanding is the foundation for the phenomenological knowing of my world, both temporal and spiritual, became my new constitution of being through the Blessed Virgin Mary and St. Thérèse. I understood that all along, but it took me decades to know it.
Next episode - we enter the Dark Forest! Be prepared!

S3E1 - Join me on the journey with St. Joan of Arc and St. Thérèse
Let's walk together with St. Joan and St. Thérèse on the Trail of the Dogmatic Creed to the kingdom in the distance.
We are moving more deeply into the phenomenological journey with St. Joan and St. Thérèse on the Trail of the Dogmatic Creed to the mystical Kingdom in the distance. In season three I would like to go back to the beginning and have you join me as we journey across the meadows and rivers following St. Joan and St. Thérèse. The goal of this season is to see if together we can draw out some universal principles that would unite us as one family while each has our own journey and perspective. We are trying to bring the Father’s Kingdom “on earth as it is in Heaven.” We are beginning our personal fairy tales - tales that tell truth! I hope you will join me, and the rest of us, on the adventure.

S2E8 - From Joan of Arc to Mary Magdalene and Mystical France
The emerging universals on the Trail of the Dogmatic Creed with St. Joan and St. Thérèse.
Thus far I have given you a descriptive phenomenology of the journey on the Trail of the Dogmatic Creed with St. Joan of Arc and St. Thérèse of Lisieux. We have arrived at “mystical France” on the shores of Provence with St. Mary Magdalene. My hope is that this journey has given you inspiration to contemplate the meaning this might have in your life. My belief is that in this descriptive, hermeneutical process there is a set of universal principles - those that can be distilled from my perspective. One such principle is that of the Divine Order. We can use the metaphor of standing on a hilltop overlooking a magnificent panorama we have never before seen. Everything is in order, and the gestalt image is transcendent. The journey to mystical France is a search for those universal principles leading to that gestalt image.

S2E7 - The journey on the trail with St. Joan of Arc
Metaphysics and phenomenology with St. Joan of Arc and St. Mary Magdalene.
We begin this episode with St. Mary Magdalene on the shores of Provence. How did we get here? And why did St. Joan of Arc lead us here? I discuss the meaning of the “divine glance” (St. Thérèse) or “unreflective certainty” (St. Edith Stein) in my experiential encounter with St. Joan of Arc in 2008. Importantly, we integrate into the model two important philosophical elements - metaphysics and phenomenology. We come to understand the meaning of “France” and Mary Magdalene’s spiritual role in living the Our Father. “Thy kingdom come; Thy will be done, on earth as it is in Heaven.”

S2E6 - From St. Joan in my heart to St. Mary Magdalene on the shores of Provence
A short chronology of the philosophical development of the Royaume France Model.
In this episode I discuss the chronology of my philosophical development as I journeyed from the heart of St. Joan of Arc to St. Mary Magdalene on the shores of Provence. Mary Magdalene emerged as the embodied “gestalt” of the Royaume France model which is absorbed into the Platonic (and Aristotelian) metaphysics of the Church. Follow along as I briefly walk you through that development from a single phenomenon to its emerging meaning.

S2E5 - St. Mary Magdalene's mystical France in the phenomenological model
From empathic devotion to St. Joan of Arc to St. Mary Magdalene's mystical France.
In this episode I discuss the next major phase in my phenomenology of the French Royal Heart of St. Joan of Arc - the substructure of St. Mary Magdalene’s mystical France. My noematic field of meaning was shifting through my empathic devotion to St. Joan of Arc. I knew something real, something with substance, was underneath it all. One day the image of “France” imposed itself on my heart and in my intellect. Not long after I began to learn about the tradition of St. Mary Magdalene in France. Through categorical intuitions mystical France began to emerge in my model.

S2E4-Empathic devotion to St. Joan of Arc
St. Edith Stein's phenomenology of empathy in our discovery of St. Joan of Arc.
In this episode I take you on a journey to what I call “empathic devotion” to St. Joan of Arc using the phenomenological influence of St. Edith Stein. Having previously established in my own terminology the three characteristics of this phenomenology as clarity of mind, agility of thought, and pureness of heart, the natural extension of our model is empathy. St. Edith Stein wrote her doctoral thesis on empathy, which is a natural fit to her phenomenology. Join me as I discuss “sharing Joan’s mode of Being” through empathic devotion!

S2E3 - Knowing St. Joan of Arc and St. Thérèse as they know each other in Heaven
Connecting the phenomenon of St. Joan of Arc to its mystical meaning.
In this episode I expand on what I mean by “walking the Trail of the Dogmatic Creed” with St. Joan of Arc and St. Thérèse. From the previous episode, we now understand the characteristics of clarity of mind, agility of thought, and purity of heart. Pushing onward we seek to know St. Joan and St. Thérèse “as they know each other in Heaven” by imbuing ourselves in their life stories. As we do, self-evident truths become apparent; we now can compare our horizon of meaning with what we perceive is St. Joan of Arc’s horizon. Using the influence of St. Edith Stein’s phenomenology, we build a bridge of understanding between the natural phenomenon of St. Joan and its mystical meaning.

S2E2 - Clarity, Agility, and Pureness with St. Joan and St. Thérèse
Led by St. Joan of Arc and St. Thérèse through clarity of mind, agility of thought, and pureness of heart.
In this episode I move forward on the Trail of the Dogmatic Creed with St. Joan of Arc and St. Thérèse by describing the “how” of the journey. As though my celestial sisters were leading me toward a Kingdom, I contemplated how it was that this was happening. Emerging in the guiding light of St. Edith Stein’s philosophy and her reconciliation of medieval Thomism with phenomenology were three characteristics - clarity of mind, agility of thought, and pureness of heart. These formed the foundation of the method working in me.

S2E1 - Edith Stein and the phenomenology of St. Joan and St. Thérèse
How Edith Stein opened the path for my phenomenological journey with St. Joan and St. Thérèse.
Welcome to season two! In this episode I introduce you to the influence of Edith Stein, St. Teresa Benedicta of the Cross, in the development of the phenomenology of the combined hearts of St. Joan and St. Thérèse. Season two will discuss the “divine glance” of St. Joan of Arc introduced in season one through the methodology known as phenomenology in the framework of Edith Stein’s work in the field. This is our journey with St. Joan of Arc and St. Thérèse!

S1E10-The transformative journey with St. Joan of Arc
Angst turns to enchantment, anxiety to awe. In this episode I take you through the resulting transformation resulting from our phenomenological journey with St. Joan of Arc and St. Thérèse on the Trail of the Dogmatic Creed. As we cross the meadows, rivers, and snow-capped mountains with our saintly sisters, our existential angst turns to enchantment and our anxiety to awe. We come to understand that we are in a story! The Kingdom is in the distance. Our journey in “story” to the Kingdom is a transformative experience.

S1E9-Following St. Joan of Arc by bringing the "undisclosed" into the clearing
In this episode I explain the discipline and process of the journey with St. Joan. It begins with the three questions mentioned in previous podcasts:
What does it mean that something is meaningful? (Ontological)
What does the meaning we have received mean? (Phenomenological)
What is the meaning of the meaning? (Teleological)
Answering these questions requires a process and discipline to bring what is “undisclosed” into the “clearing” where perceive the final form of the gestalt. Our journey with St. Joan of Arc to the Kingdom in the distance - the gestalt - is about purposeful progress! We traverse pleasant meadows yet also climb rugged snowcapped mountains. To travel the Trail of the Dogmatic Creed with St. Joan, we need a method.

S1E8-The story behind my phenomenological journey with St. Joan of Arc
In this episode I give the listener some much needed context around why I am presenting these podcasts on my journey with St. Joan of Arc. You will hear a quick overview of my story with an emphasis on the difference between two life-altering experiences - my conversion to the Church and my experience many years later with St. Joan through the hermeneutics of St. Thérèse’s poetry and plays. In both cases I had a confrontation with Truth. The first resulted in an affirmation of the Faith. The second resulted in the journey I am describing. I hope it inspires you and gives you some helpful insights.

S1E7-Three questions begging contemplation in our devotion to St. Joan of Arc
What we receive intuitively is “meaning”; however, the substance of this meaning is not self-evident. This episode moves into the deeper realms of our spiritual journey to the Kingdom with St. Joan of Arc and St. Thérèse of Lisieux on the Trail of the Dogmatic Creed. This juncture along the Trail begs contemplation of three important questions. Our point of departure was the “divine glance.”
The first movement is that of grace through Divine Providence. In the language of Edith Stein, we refer to this as the “divine glance,” or an “unreflective certainty.” The Holy Spirit through the Immaculate Heart of Mary enlightens our consciousness in an instant. What we receive intuitively is “meaning”; however, the substance of this meaning is not self-evident. We recognize it only as “meaning.”
The divine glance, experienced as receiving “meaning without understanding,” can be likened to the Cloud of Unknowing; though, it is not clear to us that the two are different descriptions of the same phenomenon. Nevertheless, the Divine Glance presents three challenges we must address to advance a metaphysics of subjective devotion that is compatible with objective Aristotelian scholasticism in the Thomist tradition. These are: what does it mean that something is meaningful? What does the meaning we have received mean, i.e., what is it? What is the meaning of the meaning, i.e., why did we receive this meaning? The first is ontological in nature, the second is phenomenological, and the third is teleological.
To be continued in future podcasts!

S1E6-Retracing St. Joan of Arc's Horizon of Meaning
Following Joan from "grounds to conclusions."
Welcome back! In this episode we will go further along the Trail of the Dogmatic Creed with St. Joan of Arc using the inspiration of Edith Stein’s beautiful phenomenology. I discuss what it means to “follow St. Joan” or to “journey with her.” We trace her steps - from grounds to conclusions - in order to understand her own horizon of meaning!
My apologies. In the episode I reference the following as coming from Edith Stein’s book Knowledge and Faith. In fact, it comes from her book Potency and Act. I would suggest reading both!
Philosophical understanding is different. The philosopher must not only be able to see and show the fact that someone else went about it in such and such a way; his insight must not only extend to the connections between the other's grounds [Grund] and consequences. The philosopher must also grasp why his predecessor went about it like this. He must get down into the grounds themselves and grasp them. And this means that the grounds must grip him and best him in the sense that he decides to accept them and retraces within himself the path the other followed from grounds to conclusions, perhaps even going beyond him. Or else he must best the grounds; I mean, he must decide to get free of them and take another path.Edith Stein. Potency and Act (The Collected Works of Edith Stein) (Kindle Locations 425-429). Kindle Edition.
S1E5-Empathic devotion to St. Joan of Arc
How does Joan see the world and how does her view differ from our own? After our descriptive journaling on the life of St Joan of Arc, we notice that a “horizon of meaning” is emerging from our contemplative reflections and spiritual reading. What do we do next? In this episode I discuss how using the phenomenology of Edith Stein along with her work on empathy, we can begin to sense what Joan’s own horizon of meaning might look like and how that might differ from our own. Visit my Substack at https://www.doveandrose.com

S1E4-The "Divine Glance" initiating my devotion to St. Joan of Arc
Welcome back! In this episode I continue the discussion of the phenomenological process that resulted in an expression of devotion to St. Joan of Arc through the voice of St. Thérèse. I go further into the “divine glance” which is the act of grace that began the process as well as the descriptive phenomenology that reveals our Horizon of Meaning. The journey on the Trail of the Dogmatic Creed with St. Joan and St. Thérèse continues!
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S1E3 - How I began writing phenomenologically about St. Joan of Arc and St. Thérèse
Welcome back! In this episode I explain how I came to write on the phenomenology of the French Royal hearts of St. Joan of Arc and St. Thérèse. I will walk you through those important moments with St. Joan and St. Thérèse as they inspired me to begin my journey on the Trail of the Dogmatic Creed.
”Will you follow where I lead?”
I took these words from Mark Twain’s book Joan of Arc as Joan’s question to me personally. Immediately after reading them, I put the book down and began to write.
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S1E2 - What is the phenomenology of the combined hearts of St. Joan of Arc and St. Thérèse?
Welcome back everyone! I hope you had the opportunity to check out my first episode to The Dove and Rose. In this second episode, I explain what I mean by the “phenomenology of the French Catholic hearts of St. Joan and St. Thérèse.” This includes a discussion on Edith Stein and her philosophy! The journey on the Trail of the Dogmatic Creed with St. Joan and St. Thérèse begins here with an introduction to the “divine glance.”
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S1E1 - An introduction to the phenomenology of St. Joan of Arc and St. Thérèse of Lisieux
An introduction to the Dove and Rose model which is a phenomenology of the French Royal Hearts of St. Joan of Arc and St. Thérèse of Lisieux. St. Thérèse is my hermeneutic for understanding St. Joan. I interpret Joan through the voice of Thérèse. Through this hermeneutic I received the grace of a “divine glance”, using Thérèsian terms, or an “unreflective certainty”, using Edith Stein’s philosophical term. The divine glance infused in me a life-long devotion to St. Joan of Arc. The Dove and Rose model tells this story and is the phenomenological expression of that devotion.
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