
Down To Chat
By Cody Plofker and Eli Weiss
As avid podcast listeners and DTC fanatics, Cody and Eli have been searching for a podcast that is casual and conversational, while at the same time useful and insightful. A podcast that covers all things DTC from operators who are building the next generation of CPG brands.
This is that.

Down To ChatAug 19, 2022

S3 E7: The Future of VC in DTC with Ben Lerer of Lerer Hippeau
In the seventh episode of Season Three, Cody and Eli are joined by Ben Lerer, a Managing Partner at Lerer Hippeau, for a captivating conversation. They explore a range of topics, including AI, cryptocurrency, and the future of venture-backed direct-to-consumer (DTC) brands.
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This season of the podcast is sponsored by Postscript and Tapcart. You can try Postscript for free for 30 days using this link: postscript.io. And with this link, you can get up to two months free with Tapcart: tapcart.com/downtochat.
Connect with the hosts and guest:
Cody: Twitter - @codyplof, Newsletter - codyplofker.com/newsletter Eli: Twitter - @eliweisss, Newsletter - eliweisss.com Ben: Twitter - @BenjLerer, Website - Lererhippeau.com
S3 E6: All The Google Hot Takes with Ex Googler Ben Kruger
In the sixth episode of Season Three, Cody sits down with Xoogler Ben Kruger to talk all things Google. Everything from Google ads to Youtube, Geolift testing, Performance Max, CBO vs. ABO, GA4, and so much more.
Don't forget to leave us a review if you haven't already! Your feedback helps us get the podcast out to more folks.
This season of the podcast is sponsored by Postscript and Tapcart. You can try Postscript for free for 30 days using this link: postscript.io. And with this link, you can get two months free with Tapcart: tapcart.com/downtochat.
Connect with the hosts and guest:
Cody: Twitter - @codyplof, Newsletter - codyplofker.com/newsletter Eli: Twitter - @eliweisss, Newsletter - eliweisss.com Ben: Twitter - @ben__kruger, Website- https://ben-kruger.com/
S3 E5: Measuring Incrementality and Retaining Customers with Lessons from Fine Dining
In the fifth episode of Season Three, Cody and Eli are back with more expert insights and tips to help you succeed in ad management and customer retention.
During the episode, Cody delves into the topic of measuring incrementality, providing valuable insights on how to analyze and optimize your marketing campaigns for maximum ROI.
On the other hand, Eli shares his learnings from the fine dining industry to highlight the importance of creating positive experiences and retaining customers.
This episode is filled with valuable lessons and techniques applicable to businesses of all sizes and industries. Whether you're a seasoned marketer or a business owner looking to improve your customer retention strategies, you won't want to miss this episode.
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Cody: https://twitter.com/codyplof | https://www.codyplofker.com/newsletter
Eli: https://twitter.com/eliweisss | http://eliweisss.com

S3 E4: Paid Ads MasterClass and Retention Team Building
In the fourth episode of Season Three, Cody and Eli share their expert insights on two key topics: starting a new ad account and kickstarting a CX/Retention operation.
During the episode, Cody discusses the fundamentals of paid advertising, including selecting the right platform, defining goals and objectives, targeting the right audience, creating compelling ad creatives, and optimizing campaigns for maximum ROI.
Meanwhile, Eli shares his knowledge on developing and implementing effective CX/Retention strategies, including identifying key metrics, bringing on your first CX hire, and creating positive experiences to drive customer loyalty.
Whether you're a marketing novice or a seasoned pro, this episode offers valuable tips and techniques to help you succeed in ad management and customer retention.
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This season is brought to you by Postscript and Tapcart.
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Cody: https://twitter.com/codyplof | https://www.codyplofker.com/newsletter
Eli: https://twitter.com/eliweisss | http://eliweisss.com

S3 E3: How to Fix Your Retention with Val Geisler
In the third episode of Season Three, Eli chats with Val Geisler about all things retention. We chatted about how retention has changed over the last ten years, how to think about “fixing” retention in your first 30/60 days, thinking about retention across customer journey, and how community-building and retention go hand-in-hand.
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This season is brought to you by Postscript and Tapcart.
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Cody: https://twitter.com/codyplof | https://www.codyplofker.com/newsletter
Eli: https://twitter.com/eliweisss | http://eliweisss.com
Val: https://twitter.com/lovevalgeisler

S3 E2: Social & Influencer Masterclass With Kendall Dickieson: Seeding, Content Creation, and TikTok vs. Instagram
In the second episode of Season Three, Cody and Eli chat with Kendall Dickieson about all things social and influencer strategy for brands of all sizes.
Kendall is the brains behind so many brands you know and love in this space, like Graza, Canopy, and so many more!
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This season is brought to you by Postscript and Tapcart.
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Cody: https://twitter.com/codyplof | https://www.codyplofker.com/newsletter
Eli: https://twitter.com/eliweisss | http://eliweisss.com
Kendall: https://twitter.com/flexiblefoodie | https://www.kendalldickieson.com/

S3 E1: Testing Twitter Ads, Fixing Retention Problems, and Advantage + For The Win
In the first episode of Season Three, Cody and Eli chat about Testing Twitter Ads, Fixing Retention Problems, Advantage +, and a whole lot more.
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This season is brought to you by Postscript and Tapcart.
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Cody: https://twitter.com/codyplof | https://www.codyplofker.com/newsletter

S2 E12: A Landing Page Masterclass with Nik Sharma
In episode twelve of season two, the DTC Guy, aka Nik Sharma, gives us a masterclass on landing pages and answers some hard-hitting audience questions.
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Cody: https://twitter.com/codyplof | https://www.codyplofker.com/newsletter

S2 E11: The Death of Hypergrowth, VC in DTC, and Holistic Retention
In episode eleven of season two, Cody and Eli discuss the death of blitz-scaling and hypergrowth in CPG and holistically thinking about retention.
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Cody: https://twitter.com/codyplof | https://www.codyplofker.com/newsletter

S2 E10: How to Properly Test Ad Creative and Tips for Retaining Customers
In episode ten of season two, Cody and Eli chat about testing ad creative and customer retention tips and tricks.
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Cody: https://twitter.com/codyplof | https://www.codyplofker.com/newsletter

S2 E9: What’s Currently Working on Facebook Ads and Over-Optimizing Websites
In episode nine of season two, Cody and Eli chat about what is currently working for us on FB ads and answer the age-old question: "Is it possible to over-optimize your website?"
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Cody: https://twitter.com/codyplof | https://www.codyplofker.com/newsletter

S2 E8: Eli interviews Gina Parrelli: A Subscription and Retention Deep Dive
In episode eight of season two, Eli chats with the subscription queen Gina Perelli, CEO and co-founder of Retextion, a platform built from the ground up to actively grow your subscription revenue via a suite of AI-powered acquisition, retention, and churn reduction tools.
We chat about building the perfect subscription program, thinking through DTC retention, creating magical experiences on subscriptions, winning back lapsed subscribers, and so much more.
If you've not yet left a review for Down To Chat, please do so. It helps us get the podcast out to more folks. 🙏
This season is brought to you by Peel and Tapcart.
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Cody: https://twitter.com/codyplof | https://www.codyplofker.com/newsletter
Eli: https://twitter.com/eliweisss | http://eliweisss.com
Gina: https://twitter.com/ginaperrelli | https://retextion.com/

S2 E7: Eli Interviews Wallet-Man: Building Ridge to 9-figures, Brand vs. Performance, and Attribution hot takes with Sean Frank
In episode seven of season two, Eli chats with the legendary Sean Frank, CEO of The Ridge, a 9-figure wallet, ring, and watch brand.
We chat about creating a new niche in a massive industry, CX as marketing, brand vs. performance, attribution, and so much more.
If you've not yet left a review for Down To Chat, please do so. It helps us get the podcast out to more folks. 🙏
This season is brought to you by Peel and Tapcart.
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Cody: https://twitter.com/codyplof | https://www.codyplofker.com/newsletter

S2 E6: Black Friday: Huge mistakes, Record Days, and Lessons
In episode six of season two, Cody and Eli walk through some of the mistakes, lessons, and learnings from Black Friday.
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Cody: https://twitter.com/codyplof | https://www.codyplofker.com/newsletter

S2 E5: Our Biggest Mistakes & Learnings, Why Founders Fail, and Squirrelly Data
In episode five of season two, Cody and Eli answer a bunch of questions from a Twitter Q&A, including CRO, JRB Kits, Email campaigns vs. flows, how we are looking at cohorts, DTC data wars, and so much more.
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Cody: https://twitter.com/codyplof | https://www.codyplofker.com/newsletter
Eli: https://twitter.com/eliweisss | http://eliweisss.com

S2 E4: DTC vs Retail and Billion Dollar Biz Ideas
In episode four of season two, Cody and Eli chat about DTC vs retail and Cody's new billion-dollar biz ideas.
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Cody: https://twitter.com/codyplof | https://www.codyplofker.com/newsletter

S2 E3: Easy Ways to Increase AOV and Direct Response Tactics in DTC
In the third episode of season two, Cody and Eli chat about easy ways to Increase AOV and direct response tactics in DTC.
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Cody: https://twitter.com/codyplof | https://www.codyplofker.com/newsletter

S2 E2: New Growth Channels, Shipping Insurance, and The Cody Subtweet
In the second episode of season two, Cody and Eli chat about New Growth Channels, Shipping Insurance, and The Cody Subtweet.
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Cody: https://twitter.com/codyplof | https://www.codyplofker.com/newsletter
Eli: https://twitter.com/eliweisss | http://eliweisss.com

S2 E1: Black Friday Strategies, Testing Direct Mail, and a New Landing Page Tool to Change the Game
In the first episode of season two, Cody and Eli chat about BFCM, our direct mail testing plan, a new landing page tool, JRB subscription, and so much more.
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Cody: https://twitter.com/codyplof | https://www.codyplofker.com/newsletter

S1 E12: Community Building, Team Building, and an Amazing Acquisition
In episode Twelve of Down To Chat DTC, Eli and Cody chatted about all things community building, team building, the $630M acquisition of Hero Cosmetics, and more. This podcast is brought to you by Swag.com and Wayflyer.
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Cody: https://twitter.com/codyplof | https://www.codyplofker.com/newsletter
Eli: https://twitter.com/eliweisss | http://eliweisss.com

S1 E11: What's Working For Us On Facebook + Our Take on "Is DTC Dead?"
In episode Eleven of Down To Chat DTC, Eli and Cody chatted about all things Facebook ads and DTC as a whole.
This podcast is brought to you by Swag.com and Wayflyer.
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Cody: https://twitter.com/codyplof | https://www.codyplofker.com/newsletter
Eli: https://twitter.com/eliweisss | http://eliweisss.com

S1 E10: CX as a Career, Surprise & Delight, & Calculating ROI on CX with Michael Bair
In episode Ten of Down To Chat DTC, Eli chats with Michael Bair, the SVP of CX at FIGS. FIGS is a DTC healthcare apparel and lifestyle brand that celebrates, empowers, and serves current and future generations of healthcare professionals.
We chatted about CX as a career, quiet quitting, shipping insurance, leading and motivating large CX teams, and calculating ROI on great CX.
This podcast is brought to you by Swag.com and Wayflyer.
Get 10% off your first order at Swag.com with promo code DTC10.
Get fast, flexible funding from $10k to $20m at the best possible rates at Wayflyer.com/pod.
Cody: https://twitter.com/codyplof | https://www.codyplofker.com/newsletter
Eli: https://twitter.com/eliweisss | http://eliweisss.com
Michael: https://twitter.com/michaeljbair | https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaeljbair/

S1 E9: Drops, Community, and Collabs with Peiman Raf
In episode Nine of Down To Chat DTC, Cody and Eli chat with Peiman Raf. Peiman is the Co-founder and CEO of Madhappy.
In 2017, Madhappy launched as an optimistic lifestyle brand creating conversation around mental health through impactful products and experiences. In a space that has been dominated by sentiments of negativity, we set out to spread positivity in our community. Madhappy has grown to become a powerful product, content and storytelling platform, reshaping the narrative around what a brand can be and the impact it can have.
We chatted about how Madhappy chooses who to collab with, how their product drop strategy has been working for them, and how important community and mental health are. This podcast is brought to you by Swag.com and Wayflyer.
Get 10% off your first order at Swag.com with promo code DTC10. Get fast, flexible funding from $10k to $20m at the best possible rates at Wayflyer.com/pod.
Cody: https://twitter.com/codyplof | https://www.codyplofker.com/newsletter
Eli: https://twitter.com/eliweisss | http://eliweisss.com
Peiman: https://twitter.com/peimanraf | http://madhappy.com/

S1 E8: The Future of Marketing and Growing Omnichannel Brands with Shray Joshi
In episode Eight of Down To Chat DTC, Cody and Eli chat with Shray Joshi.
Shray is the Founder of Good Peeps, a full-stack marketing agency that helps scale and build the brands in your fridge and pantry. Good Peeps works with brands like Flying Embers, Kaged, Fly by Jing, and many more. Prior to Good Peeps, Shray was Director of Digital at Health-ade, and worked at other fantastic brands like Simulate and Cha-Cha Matcha.
We chatted about the future of dtc marketing, how lots of short-term hacks won't work for much longer, and growing omnichannel brands. This podcast is brought to you by Swag.com and Wayflyer.
Get 10% off your first order at Swag.com with promo code DTC10. Get fast, flexible funding from $10k to $20m at the best possible rates at Wayflyer.com/pod.
Cody: https://twitter.com/codyplof | https://www.codyplofker.com/newsletter
Eli: https://twitter.com/eliweisss | http://eliweisss.com
Shray: https://twitter.com/shrayvj | https://www.thepeeps.co/

S1 E7: How Lomi Does 9 Figures in Revenue by Putting Brand First with Matt Bertulli
In episode Seven of Down To Chat DTC, Cody and Eli chat with Matt Bertulli. Matt is the CEO of Pela Case and Lomi, 9-figure businesses with a mission to “unfuck the planet”.
We chat about how Matt is the online garbage-man, how Lomi is taking a software-onboarding approach, and how the way a customer feels matters more than anything else.
This podcast is brought to you by Swag.com and Wayflyer.
Get 10% off your first order at Swag.com with promo code DTC10. Get fast, flexible funding from $10k to $20m at the best possible rates at Wayflyer.com/pod.
Cody: https://twitter.com/codyplof | https://www.codyplofker.com/newsletter
Eli: https://twitter.com/eliweisss | http://eliweisss.com
Matt: https://twitter.com/mbertulli
Lomi Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDbYtuiKpkU

S1 E6: On Killer Landing Page Tests, Building a Community, and Brands to Watch
In episode three of Down To Chat DTC, Cody and Eli talk about Cody's landing page tests, Eli building a community, and our fav brands that are doing things differently.
This podcast is brought to you by Swag.com and Wayflyer.
Get 10% off your first order at Swag.com with promo code DTC10. Get fast, flexible funding from $10k to $20m at the best possible rates at Wayflyer.com/pod.
Cody: https://twitter.com/codyplof
Eli: https://twitter.com/eliweisss

S1 E5: The Death of Hustle Culture, Building Community, and 4-Day Workweek with Amanda Goetz
In episode five of Down To Chat DTC, Amanda chats with us about hustle culture, how House of Wise builds community like no other, and how to get the most of your work day (and week).
This podcast is brought to you by Swag.com and Wayflyer.
Get 10% off your first order at Swag.com with promo code DTC10.
Get fast, flexible funding from $10k to $20m at the best possible rates at Wayflyer.com/pod.
Cody: https://twitter.com/codyplof | https://www.codyplofker.com/newsletter
Eli: https://twitter.com/eliweisss | http://eliweisss.com
Amanda: https://twitter.com/AmandaMGoetz

S1 E4: Unconventional Retention Strategies, Segmentation, and Shooting Your Shot with Joanne Coffey
In episode four of Down To Chat DTC, Joanne chats with us about unconventional retention strategies, segmentation, and how we all met and ended up working together at JRB.
This podcast is brought to you by Swag.com and Wayflyer.
Get 10% off your first order at Swag.com with promo code DTC10.
Get fast, flexible funding from $10k to $20m at the best possible rates at Wayflyer.com/pod.
Cody: https://twitter.com/codyplof | https://www.codyplofker.com/newsletter
Eli: https://twitter.com/eliweisss | http://eliweisss.com
Joanne: https://twitter.com/itsjoannecoffey

S1 E3: On The TikTok Ban, RadioShack's Thirst, & Customer Service Disasters
In episode three of Down To Chat DTC, Cody and Eli talk about the pending potential FCC TikTok ban, RadioShack wildin' out on social, and how we'd handle customer service disasters.
This podcast is brought to you by Swag.com and Wayflyer.
Get 10% off your first order at Swag.com with promo code DTC10. Get fast, flexible funding from $10k to $20m at the best possible rates at Wayflyer.com/pod.
Cody: https://twitter.com/codyplof
Eli: https://twitter.com/eliweisss

S1 E2: On Building Brand, Playing the Long Game, and Scammy Retention Tactics
In episode two of Down To Chat DTC, Cody and Eli talk about all things brand, growth hacks, and acquisition rooted in retention.
This podcast is brought to you by Swag.com and Wayflyer.
Get 10% off your first order at Swag.com with promo code DTC10. Get fast, flexible funding from $10k to $20m at the best possible rates at Wayflyer.com/pod.
Cody: https://twitter.com/codyplof
Eli: https://twitter.com/eliweisss

S1 E1: Buying Companies and Leveraging Personal Brand with Nik Sharma
In episode one of Down To Chat DTC, Nik chats with us about buying his first DTC brand, what he looks for in potential hires, and what he never wants to see again in DTC.
This podcast is brought to you by Swag.com and Wayflyer.
Get 10% off your first order at Swag.com with promo code DTC10.
Get fast, flexible funding from $10k to $20m at the best possible rates at Wayflyer.com/pod.
Cody: https://twitter.com/codyplof
Eli: https://twitter.com/eliweisss
Nik: https://twitter.com/mrsharma | https://www.nik.co/subscribe