Ethics and Education

Harry Brighouse and Hannah Bounds interview Sandy Baum and Michael McPherson about their book, Can College Level the Playing Field?: Higher Education in an Unequal Society (2022).

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Book: Can College Level the Playing Field?: Higher Education in an Unequal Society Episodes mentioned: The Plumber Episode, The Right to Higher Education, and The True Costs of College

Produced by Harry Brighouse, Hannah Bounds, and Carrie Welsh. Music by Fred Table and the Chairs.

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Website: https://ethicsandeducation.wceruw.org/podcast/can-college-level-the-playing-field/

This is the first episode in a miniseries co-produced by Rebecca M. Taylor and Ashley Floyd Kuntz. Rebecca and Ashley are the editors of Ethics in Higher Education: Promoting Equity and Inclusion Through Case-Based Inquiry.

This episode is about faculty using social media, hosted by Jacob Fay (Open Mind) and featuring the voices of Chanda Prescod-Weinstein (University of New Hampshire), TJ Stewart (Iowa State University), and Harry Brighouse (UW-Madison). 

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This episode was produced by Rebecca Taylor, Ashley Floyd Kuntz, Jessica Harless, and Carrie Welsh. Music is Physics by Ketsa. Used under a creative commons license.

This episode was made possible (in part) by a grant from the Spencer Foundation (#202000229) and support from the Campus Research Board at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. The views expressed are those of the authors and do not necessarily reflect the views of the Spencer Foundation or the University of Illinois.

This is the second episode in a miniseries co-produced by Rebecca M. Taylor and Ashley Floyd Kuntz. Rebecca and Ashley are the editors of Ethics in Higher Education: Promoting Equity and Inclusion Through Case-Based Inquiry.

This episode is about the ethical dilemmas that HBCUs face, featuring the voices of host John Torrey (Buffalo State) and guests Joyce E. King (Georgia State University), Felecia Commodore (Old Dominion University), and Corey Reed (Butler University). 

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This episode was produced by Rebecca Taylor, Ashley Floyd Kuntz, Jessica Harless, and Carrie Welsh. Music is "Test Case" by Ketsa, used under a creative commons license.

This episode was made possible (in part) by a grant from the Spencer Foundation (#202000229) and support from the Campus Research Board at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. The views expressed are those of the authors and do not necessarily reflect the views of the Spencer Foundation or the University of Illinois.

This is the first episode in a miniseries co-produced by Rebecca M. Taylor and Ashley Floyd Kuntz. Rebecca and Ashley are the editors of Ethics in Higher Education: Promoting Equity and Inclusion Through Case-Based Inquiry.

This episode is about "divisive concepts" and features Sigal Ben-Porath (University of Pennsylvania) and Laura Dinehart (Florida International University).

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This episode was produced by Rebecca Taylor, Ashley Floyd Kuntz, Jessica Harless, and Carrie Welsh. Music is No-Wing by Ketsa. Used under a creative commons license.

This episode was made possible (in part) by a grant from the Spencer Foundation (#202000229) and support from the Campus Research Board at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. The views expressed are those of the authors and do not necessarily reflect the views of the Spencer Foundation or the University of Illinois.

Introducing a miniseries about ethical issues in higher ed. Co-produced by Rebecca M. Taylor (University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign) and Ashley Floyd Kuntz (Florida International University), this series is based on their new book, Ethics in Higher Education: Promoting Equity and Inclusion Through Case-Based Inquiry.

In this series, we cover "divisive concepts," HBCUs, and faculty use of social media. We also made teaching guides for each episode, based on chapters of the book.

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Teaching Guides: coming soon Transcript: 

This episode was produced by Rebecca M. Taylor, Ashley Floyd Kuntz, Jessica Harless, and Carrie Welsh. Music is Physics by Ketsa. Used under a creative commons license.

This episode was made possible (in part) by a grant from the Spencer Foundation (#202000229) and support from the Campus Research Board at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. The views expressed are those of the authors and do not necessarily reflect the views of the Spencer Foundation or the University of Illinois.

Where is the contrast between the aims of American prisons and the aims of college in prison programs? This piece is about those ethical dilemmas.

Featuring the voices of: philosophers John Fantuzzo, Jennifer Lackey, and Daniel Wodak; and brothers Freedom and Lee Horton. 

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PBS segment about Lee and Freedom: Brotherhood & Clemency Part 1: The Power of a Pardon, Ep. 4. John's paper: Recognizing human dignity behind bars: A moral justification for college-in-prison programs

Produced by John Fantuzzo, Téa Luckenbill, and Carrie Welsh.

Music is "Built From Nothing" by Ketsa, used under a creative commons license.

Interviews recorded remotely in 2022.

Imagine you call a plumber.

This episode is about becoming a better college teacher (if you're lucky), featuring UW-Madison philosophy professor Harry Brighouse and Oakland middle school teacher Grace Gecewicz.

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The plumber essay ("Becoming a Better College Teacher (If You're Lucky)" by Harry Brighouse, Fall 2019, Daedalus)

Produced by Carrie Welsh, with editorial help from Anna Nelson, Hannah Bounds, Trinity Giese, and Harry Brighouse. 

Recorded in June 2021. 

The true costs of college go way beyond simple frugality. The costs are serious, and they are often overlooked by universities. 

Hosted by UW-Madison grad Natnael Shiferaw, this episode features a conversation with ethnographers Nancy Kendall and Matthew Wolfgram, two of the authors of the 2020 book, "The True Costs of College."

This is part of our series on higher education.

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Conversation recorded remotely June 2021.

Music is "Wind It Up" by Ketsa from the Free Music Archive. Used under a creative commons license.

Jon Boeckenstedt is the Vice Provost of Enrollment Management at Oregon State University. He has thoughts about how we do--and should do--admissions. Here he is in conversation with philosopher of education Harry Brighouse. 

What is "enrollment management"? Is the admissions office more like Space Mountain or Studio 54? What information does an admissions officer actually get from an ACT/SAT score? What difference might going test-optional make? What will enrollment patterns look like in five years? What's so annoying about the US News rankings? What should more faculty knew about students?

and more.

To learn more about Jon's work:

Jon Boeckenstedt's Admissions Weblog Higher Ed Data Stories

This is part of our series on higher education.

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Conversation recorded remotely July 2021.

Music is "Aced It" by Ketsa from the Free Music Archive. Used under a creative commons license. 

Do we have a right to higher education? A conversation between philosophers of education Harry Brighouse and Christopher Martin. 

What is the point of higher education? Why is there a right to higher education? Should education be compulsory after 18? Should tuition be free? Plus: civic education, elite institutions, selection theatrics, and armchair sociology 

This is part of our series on the ethics of higher education.

Further reading:

The Right to Higher Education: A Political Theory by Christopher Martin Reflections on the Transition from Elite to Mass to Universal Access: Forms and Phases of Higher Education in Modern Societies since WWII by Martin Trow

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Recorded remotely in July 2021.

Music is "We Know" by Ketsa from the Free Music Archive, used under a creative commons license. 

What should the aims of higher education be? We asked undergrads, grad students, and philosophy professors what they think.

This is the first episode in our series on the ethics of higher education.

Special to UW-Madison philosophy majors Ria Dhingra and Anna Nelson, who collected responses from the 2022 NAAPE Conference (North American Association for Philosophy & Education) and with a few of their friends. And gratitude to everyone they talked to who shared their thoughts.

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Music is "Dream Teachers" by Ketsa, used under a creative commons license.

Recorded in October 2022.

At the Center for Ethics & Education, we (obviously) think a lot about the ethical dimensions of teaching. But what about the ethical dimensions of *not* teaching? 

We invited labor scholar Eleni Schirmer into conversation with philosopher Tony Laden to talk about what makes successful teacher strikes successful, strikes as direct action, what the bargaining process does to trust, and a great chicken analogy. 

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Recorded remotely September 2021. Music is Wavy Glass by Ketsa, used under a creative commons license.

Why is it weird to talk about loving your students? A great conversation about love and teaching. Featuring philosopher Meghan Sullivan in conversation with Maria Salazar about what it means to bring love into the classroom and why more philosophers should study love.

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The Good Life Method book: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/624476/the-good-life-method-by-meghan-sullivan-and-paul-blaschko/

Conversation recorded remotely on December 15, 2021.

Music is Hip Hop Instrumental 2 by Ketsa from the Free Music Archive. Used under a creative commons license.

Navigating educational equal opportunity is hard. Christopher Jencks's five principles for equal education opportunity make navigating equal education a little bit easier - once we understand the principles, of course.

In this episode, Avra Reddy interviews Jaime Ahlberg (University of Florida) about how we can use moral principles to understand theories of justice in Jencks's paper. They explore questions like: why do principles matter? What is the difference between weak and strong humane justice? How do we pick the best principle? Plus an analogy to help you better understand how principles can help us navigate our lives.

Are you teaching Jencks in your education or philosophy class? There's a study guide for this episode!

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Article discussed in this episode: Jencks, Christopher. “Whom Must We Treat Equally for Educational Opportunity to Be Equal?” Ethics, vol. 98, no. 3, University of Chicago Press, 1988, pp. 518–33, http://www.jstor.org/stable/2380965.

Produced by Avra Reddy and Carrie Welsh. Interview recorded in September 2021. Music is "Frieden" by Ketsa, from the Free Music Archive.

How and why should we punish schoolchildren--if at all? That's the guiding question of the Pedagogies of Punishment project. This episode features the project's PIs, John Tillson (Liverpool Hope University) and Winston C. Thompson (The Ohio State University). 

Pedagogies of Punishment: https://www.pedagogiesofpunishment.com/

This project was a grantee of the Center for Ethics & Education! We're proud.

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Recorded July 2021.

Producer: Carrie Welsh. Music is "Wavy Glass" by Podington Bear and "Stay With Me" by Ketsa, used under a creative commons license.

What can we learn from conversation that we can't learn on our own? Agnes Callard (Philosophy, University of Chicago) talks about the paradox of learning through conversation, the secret to asking a good question, chatting with the ghost of Aristotle, and that time her lecture notes were stolen and it ended up being a good thing for her teaching. 

Mentioned in the episode:

Boat thinking (Kant) Study guides

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Pairs well with: Reasoning by Anthony Simon Laden

Recorded in Chicago, July 2021.

Thanks to Agnes Callard and Sol Miller.

Producer: Carrie Welsh. Music is "Wavy Glass" and "Good Times" by Podington Bear, used under a creative commons license. 

Welcome to a new season of the Ethics & Education podcast!

Here are some snippets of episodes we'll share this fall, featuring the voices of Agnes Callard, Lindsey Schwartz, Winston Thompson, John Tillson, Jaime Ahlberg, and Quentin Wheeler-Bell. 

Stay tuned for more episodes starting in September. In the meantime, we’ll keep making study guides for you to use in your classes to teach philosophy of education.

Find the study guides here: https://ethicsandeducation.wceruw.org/curricula/

If you have ideas for episodes, study guides, or just want to say hi, send us an email or leave us a voicemail.

Music is "Wavy Glass" by Podington Bear, used under a creative commons license.

At CEE, we think a lot about good teaching. This is the fourth episode in our 2021 Teaching Series. And it's the last episode of our first season!

Jen Kling is an Assistant Professor of Philosophy and the director of the Center for Legal Studies at the University of Colorado Colorado Springs. She's also the Executive Director of Concerned Philosophers for Peace, the largest, most active group of philosophers in the US working on the causes of war and the prospects for peace.

In this episode, Jen touches on all the themes of our 2021 teaching series: philosophy as both a skillset and a disposition, finding an entry point for students new to philosophy, and using games to teach social contract theory. 

Jen has a lot of fun in the classroom. And her students do too! One student, Betty Varland, even adapted an Adele song to Aristotle. You'll get to hear that in the episode.

Jen says: "So much of what I do is just to make people laugh. I really think it's genuinely important. I think philosophy is very serious, it can be very important, heavy topics. You have to find your way in to these questions. And for me, humor and movement is the way to do that. And so I try to impart that to my students."

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Produced by Carrie Welsh. Interview recorded at APA Central, February 2020. Music is My Tribe by Ketsa and Cascades by Podington Bear. Special thanks to Betty Varland for permission to use her song.

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At CEE, we think a lot about good teaching. This is the third episode in our 2021 Teaching Series.

Bailey Szustak is a PhD student at the University of Illinois at Chicago. In this episode, Bailey talks about teaching new philosophy students in a way that helps them feel at ease with and compelled by philosophy. After all, that's what the word 'philosophy' means--a love of knowledge. 

Bailey says: "How can I make my teaching something that every single student, or as many as possible...finds themselves in what we're doing in a way that is accessible to them? So not scaring them off by immediately throwing them into Kant... But asking questions and thinking about ideas that are relevant to their life. And then it turns out, they've been doing philosophy without realizing it."

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PS: Bailey is also a welder and a painter! Check out some of her art here: https://thefabulosopher.wordpress.com/art/

How do you engage your students? Do you teach "covert philosophy"? Send us an email or leave us a voice message.

Produced by Carrie Welsh. Interview recorded at APA Central, February 2020. Music is Blessed Horizons by Ketsa and Cascades by Podington Bear. 

At CEE, we think a lot about philosophical skills and good teaching. This is the first episode in our 2021 Teaching Series.

W. John Koolage is a philosophy professor and the Director of General Education at Eastern Michigan University. John is a philosopher of education who thinks a lot about teaching and learning. In this piece, he talks about how to engage undergrad students in philosophy classes by giving them opportunities to practice skills like curiosity and argument. And he talks about engaging students outside of the classroom in high-impact learning projects like the EMU Undergraduate Conference in Philosophy, which now has an international attendance. 

John says: "You want students to use these things they learn in their general education programs inside their major and inside their lives." Argument and curiosity "can actually fit in anything you do. They might make you a better parent, they might make you a better manager, they might make you a better chemist. That's the sort of idea that you really want in your general education program, so that these things can infuse it."

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EMU Undergraduate Conference in Philosophy: https://www.emuucip.com/ Paper about the conference: https://www.pdcnet.org/teachphil/content/teachphil_2018_0999_8_28_90 George Kuh's high impact practices (excerpt): https://www.aacu.org/node/4084

Interview recorded at APA Central, February 2020. Music by Ketsa and Podington Bear. Produced by Carrie Welsh.

At CEE, we think a lot about good teaching. This is the second episode in our 2021 Teaching Series.

Susan Kennedy is a postdoctoral fellow in philosophy at Harvard University, where she works with the Embedded EthiCS team to integrate ethical reasoning into the computer science curriculum. In this episode, Susan talks about teaching non-canonical texts, using games to teach feminist critiques of social contract theory, teaching students how to conference, and offers some advice for teaching STEM students.

Susan says: "I think their interest just goes through the roof when you can present the material in an interactive and engaging way, as opposed to just having a lesson plan, where I'm, you know, lecturing about feminist critiques or something like that."

If you’d like to learn more about the simulation or the conference guide, Susan invites you to contact her: https://www.susan-kennedy.com/

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How do you engage your philosophy students? Send us an email or leave us a voice message. 

Interview recorded at APA Central, February 2020. Music is Summer Melody by Ketsa and Cascades by Podington Bear. Produced by Carrie Welsh.

Who do you trust? Are universities trustworthy? Professors? What about students? Philosopher Tony Laden (UIC Chicago) is writing a book about democracy. He sees higher ed as a way to think about trust networks and broader questions about how we talk to each other.

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Citations (and further reading!):

Binder, Amy J., and Kate Wood. Becoming Right: How Campuses Shape Young Conservatives. Princeton, NJ: Princeton Univ Press, 2014. Brown, Adrienne M, Emergent Strategy: Shaping Change, Changing Worlds. Chico, CA: AK Press, 2017. Jack, Anthony Abraham. The Privileged Poor: How Elite Colleges Are Failing Disadvantaged Students. Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press, 2019. Laden, Anthony. "Teaching, Indoctrination and Trust." (forthcoming in Academic Ethics Today, ed. by Steven Cahn (Rowman and Littlefield, 2022). Lao-tzu and Stephen Mitchell. Tao Te Ching: A New English Version. New York, NY: HarperCollins, 1994. Nguyen, C. Thi (forthcoming). "Trust as an Unquestioning Attitude." Oxford Studies in Epistemology. Westover, Tara, Educated: A Memoir. New York: Random House, 2018.

Special thanks to Grace Welsh, Carrie Peredo, and Natnael Shiferaw for reading the student excerpts. This episode was produced by Carrie Welsh, with help from Natnael Shiferaw, Harry Brighouse, and Tony Laden.

Recorded January 2021. Music is "Eye on Me" by Ketsa and "Cascades" by Podington Bear.

Principles are your pal. They offer both theory and a diagnosis to help you figure out what the problem is. But on their own, they're not enough. Where do they fit in decision-making? Plus a burning question about relativism.

At the NAAPE Conference in 2019, Grace Gecewicz (UW Madison Philosophy undergrad, '20) and Abby Beneke (UW Madison Educational Policy Studies PhD student) interviewed Professor Jaime Ahlberg (Philosophy, University of Florida). This is a great piece for understanding principles and decision-making.

Recommended reading: Dilemmas of Educational Ethics, edited by Meira Levinson and Jacob Fay. Episode Transcript

Recorded October 2019. Produced by Grace Gecewicz, Abby Beneke, and Carrie Welsh.

Music by Podington Bear and Ketsa.

This piece features two voices: sociologist Dr. Laura T. Hamilton (UC Merced) and philosopher Dr. Kathryn Joyce (Princeton University).

Educational Policy Studies PhD student Abby Beneke (UW-Madison) interviewed Laura when she came to UW in 2019 to give a talk on her book project, Broke: The Racial Consequences of Underfunding Universities, which she co-wrote with Kelly Nielsen.

Dr. Hamilton: “What I want people to understand is that the hierarchies that we see today are about racial resentment.”

We asked philosopher Kathryn Joyce to respond to Laura's interview from a lens of relational equality.

Dr. Joyce: "Addressing racial hierarchies is not primarily a matter of rooting out racists and removing them from positions of power. It's a matter of eliminating dominant racial ideologies.”

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Study guide for this episode coming soon!

This episode was produced by Abby Beneke and Carrie Welsh, and mixed and edited by Kellen Sharp.

"Education doesn't always need to start with an answer. It starts, sometimes, with a question."

Professor Quentin Wheeler-Bell (Indiana University) discusses one of the driving questions of his work: what is liberatory education?

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Produced and edited by Kellen Sharp.

Recorded at the NAAPE Conference, October 2019.

It’s late January, which means snowstorms (here in Wisconsin, anyway), the start of the spring semester, and grad school application deadlines. Universities will be making admission decisions over the next few months, and then applicants will decide where to go. But who really knows what they're getting into when they apply to grad school??

This is a timely piece on informed consent and the ethics of doctoral admissions, featuring Center Fellow Professor Bryan Warnick, a philosopher at the Ohio State University. It's based on his paper, "The Ethics of Doctoral Admissions" (forthcoming). We also asked four PhD students their thoughts on grad school. Thanks to Pedro Monque (CUNY Graduate Center), Garry Mitchell (Harvard University), Kathryn Joyce (University of California San Diego), and Kirsten Welch (Columbia Teacher's College) for sharing their perspectives. 

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Recorded at APA Central in Denver, February 2019. Mixed and edited by Kellen Sharp. Produced by Grace Gecewicz and Carrie Welsh. 

Grace Gecewicz and Madeline Brighouse Glueck interview Jennifer S. Hirsch (Public Health, Columbia University) and Shamus Khan (Sociology, Princeton University) about their book, Sexual Citizens: A Landmark Study of Sex, Power, and Assault on Campus. This conversation offers a hopeful vision for the future of sex education, preventing sexual assault, and developing an empathetic understanding of young people today.

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Study guide: The Ethics of Sexual Citizenship

Recorded in December 2020. Theme music by Podington Bear. Episode produced and edited by Carrie Welsh.

What are the ethical questions behind opting out of state testing? Professor Terri Wilson (University of Colorado Boulder) discusses a case study she co-wrote on opting out of state standardized testing. 

Study Guide: Opting Out of State Assessments - with a Structured Academic Controversy activity Audio Transcript

Recorded at the American Philosophical Association Central Conference in Denver in 2019. Produced by Carrie Welsh and Grace Gecewicz and edited by Kellen Sharp. 

Theme music by Podington Bear.

What is a charter school? Philosophy professor (and director of the Center for Ethics and Education) and UW-Madison student (and undergraduate project assistant at the Center) Grace Gecewicz host this episode about a type of school that everyone seems to have an opinion about. Find out who the "strange bedfellows" were that came up with the idea of charter schools and learn to ask the right questions about the effects of charter schools. Featuring scholars Erica Turner (Educational Policy Studies, UW-Madison) and Gina Schouten (Philosophy, Harvard University)

Paper by Brighouse and Schouten: "To Charter or Not to Charter: What Questions Should We Ask, and What Will the Answers Tell Us?" Study Guide: What is a Charter School? Transcript

Recorded in 2018 and 2019. Produced by Carrie Welsh and Grace Gecewicz. Edited by Kellen Sharp.

Music by Bad Snacks and Podington Bear.

What ethical compromises do students make when they seek upward mobility through education? We talk with Professor Jennifer Morton about her new book, Moving Up Without Losing Your Way: The Ethical Costs of Upward Mobility (2019). Morton is an associate professor of philosophy at the University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill and a senior fellow at the Center for Ethics and Education.

Book: Moving Up Without Losing Your Way, by Jennifer Morton

This audio is paired with free, downloadable curricular materials to use in undergrad and graduate education classes. Visit our website for more info.

Study Guide: Ethical Costs: The Case of Higher Education and Social Mobility

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Recorded October 2019.

Produced by Carrie Welsh and Grace Gecewicz. Mixed and edited by Kellen Sharp. Theme music by Podington Bear.

We talk with Dr. Anthony Abraham Jack, an assistant professor of education at the Harvard Graduate School of Education, about his new book, The Privileged Poor: How Elite Colleges Are Failing Disadvantaged Students (2019). Jack’s work examines the often-overlooked diversity of low-income college students.

Book: The Privileged Poor: How Elite Colleges Are Failing Disadvantaged Students, by Anthony Abraham Jack 

This audio is paired with free, downloadable curricular materials to use in undergrad and graduate education classes. Visit our website for more info.

Study Guide: Navigating Non-Ideal Institutions: The Case of the Privileged Poor Study Guide: Student Materials

Recorded in Toronto, April 2019.

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Produced by Carrie Welsh. Edited by Kellen Sharp. Theme music by Podington Bear. Study guide created by Harry Brighouse, Abby Beneke, Grace Gecewicz, and Carrie Welsh, with consultation from Anthony Jack.

Kellen Sharp is a junior at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, majoring in Communication Arts. He is a McNair scholar with aspirations of attending graduate school and earning a PhD in Media and Cultural Studies. Kellen was the Undergraduate Research Scholar at the Center for Ethics and Education in 2019-20, where he co-produced and edited the podcast and helped develop curricular materials.  This is his reflection on that work.

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Written and produced by Kellen Sharp, May 2020.

Theme music by Podington Bear.

Grace Gecewicz is a recent graduate from the University of Wisconsin-Madison. She graduated with a bachelor’s degree in philosophy and a certificate in gender and women’s studies. During her time as an undergraduate, she was also an undergraduate project assistant at the Center for Ethics & Education, where she worked on the podcast and curriculum development. To read Grace's honor's thesis, "Let's Talk About the Birds, Not the Bees: Sexual Education for a Flourishing Life," you can reach out to her via email: ggecewicz@wisc.edu.

Recommended Readings: 

Archard,D. (2000). Sex Education. Impact, 2000(7), vii-47.  Kukla, R. (2018). That’s what she said: The language of sexual negotiation. Ethics, 128, 70- 97.  McAvoy, P. (2013). The aims of sex education: Demoting autonomy and promoting mutuality. Educational Theory, 63(5) 483-496.

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Written and produced by Grace Gecewicz, May 2020. Theme music by Podington Bear.

Professors Lauren Gatti (University of Nebraska-Lincoln) and Paula McAvoy (North Carolina State University) talk about their book project, Just Teacher: Ethical Thinking in the Profession of Teaching.

Recorded in-person in February 2019 and over zoom in September 2020.

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Produced by Carrie Welsh. Theme music by Podington Bear.

This is a short piece cut from the longer conversation with Professors Lauren Gatti (University of Nebraska-Lincoln) and Paula McAvoy (North Carolina State University) about their book project, Just Teacher: Ethical Thinking in the Profession of Teaching. Here, they talk about the unique challenges the pandemic poses to teachers. 

Recorded over zoom in September 2020. 

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Produced by Carrie Welsh. Theme music by Podington Bear.