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Forging Mettle Podcast

Forging Mettle Podcast

By Ronald Duren Jr

Welcome to the forge! Ron explores the world of adversity and doing hard things. In a world that has gone soft, here in the forge, we discuss the hard.

Mettle is that uncanny ability to face a demanding situation in a spirited and resilient way and remain calm in the storm.

Each week, he interviews elite athletes, entrepreneurs, business leaders, researchers and academics that have been through the fire and came out the other side, stronger and better for the experience.

Join him as he works to unlock the secrets of how to embrace adversity, cultivate savoring and live our best lives!
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May 03, 202301:06:48
079 | Emilia Elisabet Lahti | The yin and yang of strength and gentleness

079 | Emilia Elisabet Lahti | The yin and yang of strength and gentleness

This week we welcome my "SISU sister" to the forge. Elisabet and I have so much alignment around the concepts of doing hard things, overcoming adversity, being tough and staying the course. But to also make room for changing course when needed, softness, gentleness, compassion for yourself and those we lead. You will come away with ideas of how we can be both tough and gentle, and why we should. This is the leadership model of the future. We discuss what it means to honor yourself. And that pushing on is not always the best choice.

Show notes:

Elisabet is an international presenter on topics related to positive psychology, courage, leadership, and high performance. She is also a transformational mindset coach supporting individuals who are committed to cultivating compassionate leadership and integrity in their daily lives

She conducted her PhD research for the Finland-based Aalto University School of Science and Technology in which she is pioneered the research on the ancient Finnish construct of sisu, which denotes courage and determination in the face of extreme adversity and the ability to unlock hidden inner strength when it is needed (find the research paper on embodied fortitude here and its press release here).

Elisabet´s work has been featured by The New Yorker, Business Insider, Scientific American, BBC, and Forbes among others. Elisabet has given talks at Fortune500 companies such as Facebook and Salesforce, as well as Stanford University, The International World Congress on Positive Psychology, The Consciousness Summit, TEDx, and Singularity University at NASA Ames in Mountain View, California, where she also studied futurism and exponential technologies while attending their Global Solutions Programme.

Elisabet has a master's degree in social psychology from the University of Tampere in Finland and in a master's degree in applied positive psychology from the University of Pennsylvania, USA. She is a former student of Dr Martin Seligman and began her master thesis work on sisu was advised by research professor Dr Angela Duckworth in 2013.

Her personal life mission involves being a catalyst for human connection and compassion. She believes it is our collective responsibility to create socially warm, inviting spaces that empower people to reach their fullest potential. Elisabet enjoys facilitating meaningful connections across geographical, cultural, and disciplinary boundaries and has been hosting story circles and women's groups since 2013.


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Apr 26, 202301:10:24
078 | Jason Van Camp | Hard is coming your way
Apr 19, 202350:39
077 | Lisa Jaster | Be awesome at whatever you decide to do

077 | Lisa Jaster | Be awesome at whatever you decide to do

Today's guest is our first Army Ranger on the show. Even though she was a trailblazer for women, I purposely left out that "adjective" of being female. Lisa recently published her book, "Delete the Adjective: Soldier's Adventures in Ranger School." I think you are going to find her approach to excellence, raising kids, controlled suffering and doing hard things and facing adversity.

Show notes:

Army Lieutenant Colonel Lisa Jaster is a soldier, an engineer, a wife and mother, and a trailblazer. One of only three women to graduate from the first integrated United States Army Ranger program—one of the most difficult combat training courses in the world—Lisa was the first female Army Reserve officer to become Ranger qualified.

Lisa, a fitness fanatic who continues to train CrossFit and Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, has a hard-won understanding of the importance of perseverance, as well as a deeply ingrained respect for camaraderie stemming from a seven-year-long active duty career (including tours in Iraq and Afghanistan).


Buy the book: Today's guest is our first Army Ranger on the show. Even though she is was a trailblazer for women, I purposely left out that "adjective." Lisa recently published her book, "Delete the Adjective: Soldier's Adventures in Ranger School." I think you are going to find her approach to excellence, raising kids, controlled suffering and doing hard things and facing adversity.

Show notes:

Army Lieutenant Colonel Lisa Jaster is a soldier, an engineer, a wife and mother, and a trailblazer. One of only three women to graduate from the first integrated United States Army Ranger program—one of the most difficult combat training courses in the world—Lisa was the first female Army Reserve officer to become Ranger qualified.

Lisa, a fitness fanatic who continues to train CrossFit and Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, has a hard-won understanding of the importance of perseverance, as well as a deeply ingrained respect for camaraderie stemming from a seven-year-long active duty career (including tours in Iraq and Afghanistan).

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Mar 29, 202359:08
076 | Bev Weintraub | Earning wings of gold the hard way
Mar 08, 202342:60
075 | Massimo Pigliucci | Our quest for leaders of character
Feb 22, 202301:03:04
074 | Brian Slade | Trauma doesn't have to kick your butt

074 | Brian Slade | Trauma doesn't have to kick your butt

In today's episode we talk about trauma from someone who has experienced it as a combat aviator and also in his personal life. What he has to share could help us all take a different approach to how trauma affects us. Does it burn us down or heat our house? There are many factors that define trauma for us, but perhaps the most powerful is how we think about it. He has a wonderful "lightning" analogy that I think you will find useful. 

About Brian:

One in three will experience a significant trauma in their life. For Army Apache Pilot Brian Slade, his first was in Afghanistan.

Offering a unique perspective on preparing one's mind for trauma, his book, Cleared Hot puts readers in the cockpit of the most lethal helicopter in the world as Slade learns on the job, flying over an unforgiving landscape.

Follow Slade as he navigates the ugliness of combat while working to preserve a difficult marriage to a wife suffering from mental illness. Witness the challenges that taught him universal lessons on resilience and coping-and how they equipped him to think fast under pressure and maneuver through a curtain of enemy fire that crippled his aircraft and wounded his co-pilot, ultimately earning him the Distinguished Flying Cross.

Cleared Hot offers readers an exhilarating ride while giving them tools they can use to survive the traumas of their own lives.

Brian L. Slade has held command positions in the Army and the Air Force. He has received the Distinguished Flying Cross, Bronze Star, and fourteen combat air medals. He attended Utah State, where he earned a BA and was commissioned as an Army Aviation second lieutenant. He's also earned an MA in aviation instruction. Brian currently serves as a lieutenant colonel for Air Force Combat Search and Rescue.




Feb 08, 202301:00:35
073 | Fireside Reflections | Strategic planning, goals, habits and routines
Jan 04, 202327:26
072 | Tammy Barlette | Learning to hold on loosely
Nov 24, 202256:03
071 | Fran Racioppi | Navigating a complex world better

071 | Fran Racioppi | Navigating a complex world better

Former Green Beret Fran Racioppi joins us to discuss far ranging topics like quiet quitting, meeting people where they are, properly setting standards for yourself and those that you lead, navigating a complex world and a decision-making process to help you come out ahead more times than not. Thank you for listening. 

Show notes: 

Fran served 13 years in the United States Army as a Green Beret, deploying three times to Iraq in support of Operation Iraqi Freedom and Operation New Dawn. In 2013, he deployed to Djibouti, Africa in support of Operation Enduring Freedom, where he coordinated Special Operations combating Al-Shabab throughout East Africa. In 2014, he planned and coordinated the Special Forces response to Boko Haram in West Africa, as well as oversaw the operations of Special Forces teams countering the Lord's Resistance Army in Central Africa and ISIS in North Africa. In 2014, Fran was selected to serve as the advisor and aide to the Commander of Special Operations Command Africa. Fran is a graduate of the US Army Ranger School, Airborne School, and several other Special Operations sponsored certifications.  

A lifelong sailor, Fran volunteers teaching Veterans to sail as the Race Director for Sailahead a Veterans service organization dedicated to reducing the Veteran suicide rate. Fran has also served as the Treasurer of the United War Veterans Council, a NYC-based non-profit focused on the wellness and healing of transitioning veterans, as well as the host of the annual NYC Veterans Day Parade. 

Fran's website FRsix:

Jedburgh Podcast 

The Ballad of the Green Berets (song mentioned in the podcast)

Oct 26, 202245:30
070 | Abigail G. Manning | Learning to thrive in spite of trauma

070 | Abigail G. Manning | Learning to thrive in spite of trauma

In today's grind-it-out, never ask for help, always on, stuff it down, culture, we need more discussions like this one. We candidly discuss different ways to frame "asking for help" to make it a bit easier to do, and even fun when approached in the right way. We also have a lively back and forth chat about how to better deal with the life trauma we all carry. You're going to find real value in what Abigail has to say about healthy habits and self-limiting beliefs. Thanks for tuning in.

Show notes:

Abigail G. Manning is the founder of “Create Awareness, Change Lives” and speaks internationally on professional development and personal empowerment. She is an impactful storyteller, weaving together true life stories with powerful key takeaways. Abigail shares insights from her Indiana University double major in Cognitive, Communication and Behavioral Sciences along with hard lessons learned from the trenches of life. She learned to thrive, not in-spite of, but because of the  obstacles she has faced. It is her mission to offer insights, inspiration and innovative life skills so we each can create the best path forward to lead more effectively and live more powerfully.

Abigail's website:

Special Operators Transition Foundation - SOTF (as mentioned in the podcast):

Please check out episode #47 with Kim "KC" Campbell


Please leave us a review so that we may reach more people. We need start a revolution. 

Thank you for listening and we'll see you next week. 

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Oct 19, 202255:24
069 | Building the Elite | Managing strengths and weaknesses

069 | Building the Elite | Managing strengths and weaknesses

Today we discuss many topics related to managing the mental side of performance in difficult situations. Our guests train special forces candidates to get through the demanding selection process. What can we learn from those who do hard things? Topics such as the big five personality traits, emotional regulation, using humor to blunt the effects of hardship, and who survives, who fails, and why. 

Building the Elite

If you’re reading this, you are likely pursuing a challenging path. BTE was founded to help people like you develop the skills you’ll need to overcome those obstacles as efficiently as possible.

Both of us (Craig and Jonathan) have overcome many needless obstacles that could have been avoided with a more robust approach. As we struggled with these setbacks, we tried to understand why they were happening, and how to avoid or overcome them more effectively in the future.

After ten years of research and helping thousands of clients with the tools we’ve developed along the way, we founded BTE to share that knowledge with people like you.

The process and principles outlined in our book and throughout our site aren’t limited to the small world of military special operations. These principles will help you get more out of every aspect of your life.

Craig Weller

Craig is a former USN SWCC (Special Warfare Combatant Crewman). He is also certified under the Department of State’s Worldwide Personal Protective Service-2, and spent nearly two years on the High-Threat Protection team for the U.S. Ambassador to Baghdad in Iraq. 

In Special Operations and in subsequent private deployments, Weller held a variety of instructional and diplomatic security roles in locations including Kenya, the Philippines, Central America, South Sudan, and Iraq. 

Along with Jonathan Pope, he co-founded Ethos Colorado Training Center, a full-service strength and conditioning facility based in Denver. Prior to that, he founded Barefoot Fitness in South Dakota, with two training facilities based on minimalist principles developed while training SOF personnel in austere locations.

Jonathan Pope

Jonathan is a strength and conditioning coach based out of Denver, Colorado with over ten years of coaching experience and a BS in Exercise Science. Along with Craig, he co-founded Ethos Colorado Training Center in 2010, where he is the lead coach and oversees operations. 

When not working he can be found chasing ski mountaineering objectives all over the world or competing in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu.

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Oct 10, 202248:06
068 | Paul Napper | Better decision-making in the face of adversity

068 | Paul Napper | Better decision-making in the face of adversity

Today we talk with psychologist Paul Napper about the power of personal agency. What it is, and how we can cultivate more of it to help us face demanding situations in life. Like a global pandemic. You don't want to miss this fascinating discussion as you'll come away with actionable tools to "steer your ship" better when the storms of life descend upon us.
Show notes:
Dr. Paul Napper helps business leaders increase their effectiveness through focusing and strengthening their agency as leaders. His professional background includes extensive experience in assessment and the application of psychological principles to improve the performance of people and organizations. His client list includes Fortune 500 companies, financial firms, non-profit organizations, universities, as well as start-ups.
Dr. Napper launched his career as a Wall Street analyst, first with J.P. Morgan Investment Management in New York and, following that, with Crowell, Weedon and Company in Los Angeles. During his tenure as a securities analyst, he was responsible for research and investment strategy for several major industries. He subsequently launched Performance Psychology, a management psychology consultancy to a wide range of organizations and industries.
Dr. Napper earned his undergraduate degree at the University of Pennsylvania in International Relations and pursued his master’s degree in the same field at the University of Chicago. He received his doctorate in psychology from William James College in Boston, one of the country’s premier schools of professional psychology. As part of his training he was selected for an advanced fellowship in psychological testing and assessment during a three-year academic appointment at Harvard Medical School.
Buy the book, "The Power of Agency"
Aug 31, 202251:02
067 | Caleb Campbell | Tested by the fire

067 | Caleb Campbell | Tested by the fire

Caleb Campbell achieved his childhood dream. To play football in the NFL. Only to have his world come crashing down around him. His dreams shattered. He now says those shattered dreams are what saved his life. This is a man who knows what it means to be tested by the fire and emerge stronger. Listen in to hear his struggles, triumphs and life lessons so that we can all lead better lives and be better humans. 

Show notes:

A short video about Caleb's story: 

In 2008, I graduated the United States Military Academy at West Point and was commissioned as an officer in the United States Army with 972 other cadets. The difference between me and them is that while the majority of them were sent to war, I went to the NFL. I didn’t know it at the time, but I was about to fight my own battle—in my own inner war—and it almost cost me my life.

Caleb's website:

May 18, 202257:30
066 | Donald Robertson | Thoughts give us leverage over our emotions
May 12, 202201:03:26
065 | Juliet Hahn | Finding your hidden superpowers
Apr 13, 202245:12
064 | David Richman | Finding inspiration in the struggle
Mar 17, 202250:17
063 | Fireside Reflections | Embracing adversity to forge happiness
Feb 16, 202220:59
062 | Julie Lythcott-Haims | How to raise strong kids

062 | Julie Lythcott-Haims | How to raise strong kids

This is a far ranging, passionate discussion that you are sure to enjoy. We explore topics like free range kids, stranger danger, overprotecting. How to empathize and empower not only our kids but also adults. How to become stronger in the face of the storm. This is a discussion we all need right now. 

Show notes: 

I believe in humans.

I’m rooting for all of us to make it.

I’ve come to appreciate that despite our innumerable differences, we all want to be treated with dignity and kindness. We all yearn to know that we matter. We all want to be seen, accepted, and loved simply as we are.

I’m interested in what gets in the way.

Sometimes the obstacle begins within: our ego, fear, and shame can eat at us and make it difficult for us to be kind even to ourselves let alone to others. Each of us is also implicitly biased in favor of and against groups of humans based upon our upbringing, lived experiences, and the ideas to which we have been exposed. And over the decades and centuries of our modern existence, we’ve built societal mores, rules, policies, structures, and systems that preference some while demeaning or excluding others.

There is so much work to do, at all levels, to build a human community in which we all matter. I want to do my small part.

As someone who has the privilege of writing and publishing books, I’ve decided that the twin practices endemic in American publishing of describing characteristics of race, class, sexual orientation, and other identities only when deemed “the other,” and of assuming that all readers belong to a particular demographic group are no longer tolerable. I’m using my newest book Your Turn: How to Be an Adult to demonstrate that we can, and must, write inclusive books. You can read about how I’ve attempted to do that, here.

It’s up to you and me to treat all humans with dignity and kindness and to inspire others to do the same. We can do this. It’s well past time.



"How to Raise and Adult: Break Free from the Overparenting Trap and Prepare Your Kid for Success"

"Your Turn: How to be an Adult"

Feb 09, 202254:09
061 | Massimo Pigliucci | Cultivating areté with stoicism
Jan 26, 202256:00
060 | Carrie Leaf | Rewriting the stories we tell ourselves

060 | Carrie Leaf | Rewriting the stories we tell ourselves

What are the stories you are telling yourself about your place in the world, your identity, and where you are going? These stories can be incredibly impactful to our wellbeing. Carrie and I discuss how to tell better stories, dealing with anxiety, the difference between PTG and PTSD, how we respond to trauma, our belief systems, changing our behavior and EMDR therapy. You'll come away with useful tips to therapize yourself. 

Show notes:

Carrie Leaf is currently a practicing psychotherapist, holistic mindset coach, and hypnotherapist. She holds her undergraduate degree in Psychology with a minor in Sociology from the University of Northern Iowa. She completed her masters degree in Marriage and Family Therapy, graduating top of her class from Iona College. She has been a practicing psychotherapist for over 10 years and working in the psychology field for over 15 years.

Carrie has worked in the field of psychology in a wide variety of settings which include hospitals, community mental health, youth residential homes, substance abuse, military base, college university and private practice. She has worked with a wide variety of clients from all ages and around many different identified problems. She has worked with individuals, couples, families and groups.

Carrie is a mother to two twin toddler boys and a step-mother to their older brother and sister as well. She is a furbaby mom to two boxer dogs. She enjoys working out, exploring her health and fitness journey, staying active, nature and being outdoors, traveling, and trying new things.

Her website:

Her book, "Therapize Yourself: Choose to Heal and Find Your Truth"

Jan 12, 202247:27
059 | Addie Bracy | Life is an endurance sport
Jan 05, 202245:42
058 | Fireside Reflections | Doing hard things in 2022

058 | Fireside Reflections | Doing hard things in 2022

In this fireside reflection, Ron discusses the recent wildfires in Colorado. Looks back at the top five episodes of 2021. Shares his thoughts on strategic planning, goals, new year's resolutions and doing hard, uncomfortable things in 2022. What's on your list? Listen in to hear what Ron is going to tackle this year. 

Jan 01, 202233:58
057 | Stanley McChrystal and Anna Butrico | Building your risk immune system for resilience

057 | Stanley McChrystal and Anna Butrico | Building your risk immune system for resilience

This episode is a real gem, filled with wisdom. Co-authors General Stan McChrystal and Anna Butrico join me to talk about leadership, risk, resilience, adaptability and what they call our risk immune system. We discuss the risks associated with a global pandemic, special military operations, and how to navigate a complex changing environment in corporations. 

Show notes:

General McChrystal was a green beret, ranger and paratrooper during his career. He is perhaps best known for his command of Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC) in the mid-2000s. As you might guess, he was no stranger to risk.

Former Defense Secretary Robert Gates described McChrystal as "perhaps the finest warrior and leader of men in combat I ever met."

After retiring from the military, McChrystal founded the McChrystal Group in January 2011 to deliver innovative leadership solutions to businesses globally in order to help them transform and succeed in challenging, dynamic environments.

Anna Butrico is an Associate at McChrystal Group where she focuses on thought leadership. Currently, she is the co-author with General Stan McChrystal’s for their newly released book, "Risk: A User's Guide"

"Team of Teams: New Rules of Engagement for a Complex World"

Both Stan and Anna can be reached through the McChrystal group at

Dec 15, 202149:58
056 | Courtney Ackerman | Adversity and savoring create meaning

056 | Courtney Ackerman | Adversity and savoring create meaning

What is resilience? How does it compare to mental toughness and grit? Can we develop it, and what are its benefits? How does adversity influence savoring? We cover all of this and much more with psychologist Courtney Ackerman this week. 

Show notes:

Courtney is the author of four published books on positive psychology-related topics, including:

My Pocket Positivity (
link) 5-Minute Bliss (link) My Pocket Gratitude (link) My Pocket Meditations for Self-Compassion (link) The Book of Patience (link) Midnight Meditations (link) The Illustrated Book of Mindful Meditations for Mindless Moments (link)

After growing up in Washington state, Courtney attended the State University of New York at Oswego, where she obtained her Bachelor’s degree in psychology, cognitive science, and applied statistics.

After graduation, she made the trek to California to attend Claremont Graduate University. At CGU, her coursework and research focused on positive psychology, organizational behavior, leadership, human resources, program evaluation, and survey research methods.

She graduated in 2015 with a Master’s degree in positive organizational psychology and evaluation.

Dec 08, 202138:48
055 | Bill Mullen | The power of the 5000 year old mind
Dec 01, 202133:46
054 | Jordan Wylie | Making a difference through adventure

054 | Jordan Wylie | Making a difference through adventure

Today we talk with extreme adventurer Jordan Wylie about what it's like to take on adventures around the world all in the support of serving a greater good. His experience as a combat soldier drives his passion to give back, and help children from war torn areas. From running underground marathons to paddle boarding the ocean, he embraces adventure as a model for us all. 

Show notes:

Jordan Wylie is a former soldier, bestselling author, extreme adventurer and also one of the stars of Channel 4’s BAFTA-nominated and award-winning shows Hunted and Celebrity Hunted.

In October 2019, Jordan became the first person in history to row, solo and unsupported across the most dangerous strait of water on the planet (Bab el Mandeb Straits) between the Horn of Africa and Yemen. Jordan has also successfully completed numerous major charity expeditions, including the highly publicised Running Dangerously, which saw him run through Afghanistan, Iraq and Somalia, and Barefoot Warrior which involved climbing Mt Kilimanjaro, the world’s highest freestanding mountain, completely barefoot! In 2020 Jordan wrote his name into the Guinness Book of Records by running the deepest underground marathon (1000 metres below the surface in a mine) and by Standup Paddleboarding (SUP) for further and longer at sea than anyone ever has before in history (149 days / 2377 KM).

Learn more about Jordan:

Buy his latest book: Power of the Paddle: One Man's Mission to Inspire Hope Through the Spirit of Adventure

Nov 24, 202138:12
053 | Leadership panel | Do we need a level playing field? (2)
Nov 17, 202139:48
052 | Leadership panel | Do we need a level playing field? (1)
Nov 10, 202142:33
051 | Fireside Reflections | Let's talk about control

051 | Fireside Reflections | Let's talk about control

In this solocast, Ron discusses the 4 C's model of mental toughness. The 4 C's being: Control, Commitment, Challenge, Confidence. This episode focuses on control, and its sub-categories of life control and emotional control. Hear his thoughts on what we control and what we don't. And why understanding this in your own life can remove stress and increase wellbeing. 

Nov 03, 202128:37
050 | Paula Reid | Adventure awaits those who dare
Oct 13, 202140:02
049 | Fireside Reflections | Women in leadership and imposter syndrome
Sep 29, 202151:12
048 | Tony Blauer | How self-awareness informs situational awareness

048 | Tony Blauer | How self-awareness informs situational awareness

Although Tony's background is in the combative industry, much of what he teaches can be applied to all areas of our life where we feel fear. Let's be honest, we face fear on an almost daily basis in myriad ways. If we can know our fear, and befriend it, we are more able to control it. We discuss some catchy acronyms to help demystify fear and understand why it's happening. There is also a fascinating connection between fear management and time management. 

Show notes:

Coach Tony Blauer has been in the martial art, self-defense, defensive tactics, and combatives industry for over  four decades.

His research on physiology and mindset as it relates to confrontation management has influenced over three  decades of reality-based martial artists and enhanced the survivability of law enforcement, military, and  emergency services personnel around the world.

He founded Blauer Tactical Systems (BTS) in 1985 and it has grown into one of the world's leading consulting  companies specializing in the research and development of performance psychology, personal safety, and close  quarter tactics & scenario-based training for law enforcement, military, and professional self-defense  instructors.

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Sep 22, 202141:34
047 | Kim "KC" Campbell | You can’t have courage without fear

047 | Kim "KC" Campbell | You can’t have courage without fear

What do you do when your aircraft is hit by enemy fire over Baghdad and your control inputs no longer function? You have 20 seconds to figure it out or you'll be forced to eject over enemy territory. This week we hear Colonel Kim "KC" Campbell tell the tale of her harrowing mission in 2003. She learned a lot about herself that day. She faced her fear with courage. Listen in as we talk about confidence, perseverance, preparation, assertiveness and authenticity. 

Show notes:

Colonel Kim “KC” Campbell served in the Air Force for 24 years as a fighter pilot and senior military leader. Kim is a keynote speaker sharing her story about a life changing combat experience while weaving in ideas and lessons about leadership, teamwork, perseverance, and decision making in stressful environments. Kim has flown 1,800 hours in the A-10 Warthog, including more than 100 combat missions protecting troops on the ground in both Iraq and Afghanistan. She is a distinguished graduate of the Air Force Academy and has a Master of Arts in International Security Studies and a Master of Business Administration from the University of London. She has served as a Squadron Commander, Operations Group Commander, Air Force Senior Fellow at the Atlantic Council, and Military Assistant to the Under Secretary of Defense for Policy in the Office of the Secretary of Defense. Most recently, Kim served as the Director for the Center for Character and Leadership Development at the United States Air Force Academy. In 2003, Colonel Campbell was awarded the Distinguished Flying Cross for Heroism after successfully recovering her battle damaged airplane after an intense close air support mission in Baghdad.

Sep 15, 202144:26
046 | Sean Hyson | Forge a strong body and strong mind
Sep 08, 202131:42
045 | Fireside Reflections | What I learned being a digital nomad
Sep 01, 202139:13
044 | Andy Molinsky | Pushing the boundaries of comfort

044 | Andy Molinsky | Pushing the boundaries of comfort

In a world that seems to be addicted to taking shortcuts, hacks and taking the easy path, this week's guest pushes back on that narrative. He believes that we should strategically seek out times to do "necessary evils." He explains why getting out of our comfort zone is fundamental to our growth. Why is it beneficial and when should we do it?

Show notes:

Andy Molinsky is a Professor at Brandeis University’s International Business School, with a joint appointment in the Department of Psychology. Andy received his Ph.D. in Organizational Behavior and M.A. in Psychology from Harvard University. He also holds a Master’s Degree in International Affairs from Columbia University and a B.A. in International Affairs from Brown University.  

Andy’s work helps people develop the insights and courage necessary to act outside their personal and cultural comfort zones when doing important, but challenging, tasks in work and life. His research and writing has been featured in Harvard Business ReviewInc. Magazine, Psychology Today, the Financial Times, the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, the Boston Globe, NPR and Voice of America. Andy was awarded as a Top Voice for LinkedIn for his work in education. 

His first book, Global Dexterity (Harvard Business Review Press, 2013), received the Axiom Award (Silver Medal) for Best Business Book in International Business & Globalization and has been used widely in organizations around the world, including Boeing, AIG, the US Air Force Academy, and the Clinton Foundation, among others. His new book Reach was published with Penguin Random House in January 2017.  He teaches, consults, and lectures widely to university and corporate audiences.

Book: "Reach: A New Strategy to Help You Step Outside Your Comfort Zone, Rise to the Challenge and Build Confidence"

Book: "Global Dexterity: How to Adapt Your Behavior Across Cultures Without Losing Yourself in the Process"

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Aug 18, 202143:49
043 | Amy McGrath | Cultivating courage to follow your dreams

043 | Amy McGrath | Cultivating courage to follow your dreams

As one of the first female fighter pilots, Amy was a trailblazer in an environment that saw very few women. Her message about what it means to be a patriot, how to forge strength in the face of adversity, how to deal with failure, and how to have the courage to keep going when doors are closed, are not to be missed. This is a powerful message for us all.  

Show notes:

Amy graduated from the U.S. Naval Academy and was commissioned as a Marine Corps officer in 1997. She earned her Wings of Gold as an F/A-18 weapons systems officer and completed two combat deployments, flying 89 combat missions in Iraq and Afghanistan. In 2002, as a weapons systems officer, Amy became the first woman in the Marine Corps to fly a combat mission in an F/A-18.

After her operational flying tours, Amy served as a Congressional Fellow advising a senior member of the U.S. House of Representatives Armed Services Committee on defense and foreign policy.

Subsequently, she served in the Pentagon as Marine Corps’ liaison to the State Department and other federal agencies. After earning a postgraduate degree in global security from Johns Hopkins University, her final active duty assignment was as a senior instructor in the Political Science Department at the US Naval Academy before retiring at the rank of Lieutenant Colonel and moving back home to Kentucky to raise her family.

In 2018 and 2020, she ran U.S. House and Senate races in Kentucky.

Book: "Honor Bound: An American Story of Dreams and Service" by Amy McGrath

Aug 11, 202148:17
042 | Fireside Reflections | Are you ready to quit your job?
Jul 28, 202137:25
041 | Fireside Reflections | Is your self-worth defined by your productivity?
Jul 21, 202153:00
040 | Rachel Druckenmiller | Let your voice be heard

040 | Rachel Druckenmiller | Let your voice be heard

So often we silence ourselves at work, at home or out in the world for one reason or another. Approval from others, lack of confidence in our ideas and convictions, or maybe we just misplaced the tools to simply speak out effectively in that meeting at work. That silence however can actually cause us physical, emotional and mental pain that manifests in a myriad of ways. Not to mention - creating missed and meaningful opportunities for us.

Rachel Druckenmiller shares her story of living a "muted life" only to be pushed to a place of desperately needing to change that. And so she did. She now spends her time and expertise helping others embrace how to trust their true voice and make that voice heard. This is not only how we influence, but also how we stay aligned with who we genuinely are. Finding and nurturing that alignment within ourselves can be a freeing feeling - leading to less stress, less anxiety, deeper connections, and a more fulfilled life.

Rachel is the Founder of UNMUTED and works with teams, leaders and individuals manage stress and anxiety in the workplace with trainings and coaching in unique ways that help with productivity, reconnection, care, resilience and hope within the workplace. All key elements for leaders going forward when it comes to increasing retention in today's workforce.


Work with Rachel:

Connect with Rachel:

Book to read to help you find and use your voice:  "Steal the Show" by Michael Port

Jul 15, 202151:14
039 | Mark Divine | Create a better present and future
Jul 09, 202156:28
038 | Erika Armstrong | Can we have it all? Marriage, Family & Career?

038 | Erika Armstrong | Can we have it all? Marriage, Family & Career?

The divorce rate is rising in the United States as we start to surface from the pandemic. This week we speak with a career-woman that shares her thoughts on how important it is to your career...that you choose your partner (or next partner) wisely. Erika Armstrong has married and divorced, raised children of her own and climbed to the top of a successful career as an aviation pilot. Her thoughts on "having it all" might surprise you. She will tell you that it's not exactly possible to 'have it all', but she'll also give you a new way of seeing that idea that may be necessary for success. This is a great message for any man or woman who 'wants it all' but is concerned over what that might mean.

We also talk to Erika today about what it was like rising to the top of a male dominated industry, where the airline industry is headed today now that ppl are traveling again, and how to find work-life balance between family and career.

Show Notes:

Erika Armstrong -

Website -

Her Book - "A Chick in the Cockpit" - In the high stakes, ego-driven world of aviation, this is an extraordinary best-selling true story of how a level-headed, self-deprecating woman with an aviation addiction finds herself in jail, her baby ripped from her arms, her piloting career taken away, and every feasible exit leading to a very dark place.

Jun 30, 202146:55
037 | Rich Diviney | Challenge, stress & uncertainty 101

037 | Rich Diviney | Challenge, stress & uncertainty 101

When stress, challenges and uncertainty come into our lives, Rich Diviney believes our skills take a back stage and it is our attributes that shine (for better or worse). Perhaps attributes we never knew we had, perhaps ones we wish we didn't. What are attributes? How can we define them? Grow and develop them? Most importantly, how can we become self aware around how we're showing up in stressful situations? Author of the book: "The Attributes: 25 Hidden Drivers of Optimal Performance", Rich Diviney takes us on a journey of understanding the science behind how our daily challenges (from a global pandemic to a difficult conversation with someone) can show us a lot about who we are and who we can become.

Show Notes: 

Rich Diviney Website: 

Book - "The Attributes: 25 Hidden Drivers of Optimal Performance" by Rich Diviney -

Jun 23, 202155:58
036 | Melissa Douaire | Loss! The 'new' work conversation
Jun 16, 202152:51
035 | Jim Loehr | Good character fuels high performance
Jun 02, 202152:48
034 | Kumar Mehta | Finding your personal excellence
May 26, 202132:00
033 | Doug Strycharczyk | What is mental toughness?

033 | Doug Strycharczyk | What is mental toughness?

Find out why we all need mental toughness in our lives, how we can develop it and what exactly it is. With it we have more success, more fulfillment in life, less stress, anxiety and fear. Can we assess how mentally tough we are - we can. Do women or men score higher on these assessments - one of the genders does. Listen to find out and learn more as we dig in on the topic with expert Doug Strycharczyk.

Doug is the CEO of AQR and for AQR International – Founded in 1989, AQR is now recognized as one of the most innovative (and fast growing) test publishers in the world working in more than 80 countries.

AQR established its reputation initially as a leader in Team Building and leadership development. Doug’s work has been featured on BBC Television where Prof John Adair described the material as “highly effective.”

In recent years, Doug has worked with Professor Peter Clough to define mental toughness and to create the world’s leading measure of mental toughness. Doug is now recognized as a leading authority on the application of mental toughness to the worlds of work, education, sport as well as social applications. His expertise is focused on helping organizations develop performance, increase retention and employee engagement and more effectively dealing with issues such as bullying and the impact of change.

Doug has more than 30 years expertise in a variety of Line, HR & Consultancy roles with a number of blue chip businesses. Doug’s areas of expertise also include Organizational Development, Senior Management/Leadership Development and Top Team Assessment.

Show notes:

AQR International

"Mental Toughness and the Sexes" (Blog post)

"Developing Mental Toughness: Coaching Strategies to Improve Performance, Resilience and Wellbeing" (Book)

May 19, 202148:37
032 | Heather Younger | Caring for others builds resilience
May 12, 202140:56
031 | Fireside Reflections | Managing burnout with mental toughness
May 05, 202101:17:07
030 | Rorke Denver | 'Act of Valor' isn't just a movie title

030 | Rorke Denver | 'Act of Valor' isn't just a movie title

Physically recognized for his leading role in the 2012 blockbuster movie, Act of Valor, Rorke Denver hangs with us this week to talk about anything and everything from parenting, to being a movie star, why we should embrace fear and failure, and how to build an ethos to help us through hard times. Commander Rorke T. Denver has run every phase of training for the U.S. Navy SEALs and led special-forces missions in the Middle East, Africa, Latin America, and other international hotspots. He starred in the hit film Act of Valor, which is based on true SEAL adventures. His New York Times bestseller, Damn Few: Making the Modern SEAL Warrior, takes you inside his personal story and the fascinating, demanding SEAL training program. In his second book Worth Dying For: A Navy SEALs Call to a Nation, Rorke tackles the questions that have emerged about America’s past decade at war–from what makes a hero to why we fight and what it does to us. Rorke was most recently seen on FOX’s American Grit. The series followed 16 of the country’s toughest men and women as they faced a variety of military-grade and survival-themed challenges set in the wilderness. Today he works with business leaders, corporations and individuals on their mental toughness through keynote speaking, coaching and consulting. 

Watch our YouTube of this podcast

Show Notes:  

Movie Trailer: Act of Valor  

Rorke Denver’s Ethos   

Damn Few: Making the Modern SEAL Warrior - by Rorke Denver 

Worth Dying For: A Navy SEALs Call to a Nation - by Rorke Denver 

Reach out to Rorke here 

Ever Onward - Rorke’s Commander’s Coffee  

Book Speaking Engagements w/ Rorke

Other Books mentioned:

First, Fast, Fearless: How to Lead Like a Navy SEAL - by Brian "Iron Ed" Hiner

Apr 28, 202150:47
029 | Cara Brookins | How to get unstuck and build your citadel

029 | Cara Brookins | How to get unstuck and build your citadel

Apr 21, 202153:52
028 | Brooke Chesnut | Learning the power of listening on Mt. Everest

028 | Brooke Chesnut | Learning the power of listening on Mt. Everest

In this far ranging discussion with mountaineer and generational consultant Brooke Chesnut, we hear his harrowing stories on Denali and Everest. He explains why learning to be patient and listening more were transformational for him on a personal level. We also discuss hard decisions at high altitude and the lessons he learned. 

Show notes:

Brooke Chesnut has dedicated 38 years of corporate experience building two 7 figure sales teams in two different industries in Colorado. He hired, trained, mentored and inspired 4 different generations of workers to create incredibly successful enterprises.

During this time he also discovered his passion for climbing and set out to climb the highest peaks around the world, completing 5 of the World’s Seven Summits. Drawing from these experiences, Brooke coaches Entrepreneurs, CEOs, Senior Level Leaders, HR & Sales Professionals to improve their leadership skills, overcome adversity, optimize their generational talent and grow their organizations in a competitive environment.

Apr 14, 202149:25
027 | Alden Mills | Lead yourself, reach your goals, forge commitment
Apr 07, 202143:03
026 | Jess Kidd | Pain! A better you than yesterday
Mar 31, 202140:22
025 | Chris Bordoni | Overcoming adversity and reinvention
Mar 24, 202146:53
024 | Fireside Reflections | Rewrite your story for success, it's easier than you think

024 | Fireside Reflections | Rewrite your story for success, it's easier than you think

Mar 22, 202157:01
023 | Sandra Stosz | Women in leadership: adapt, adjust & be agile
Mar 17, 202151:07
022 | Simon Marshall | The neuroscience of suffering
Mar 10, 202101:03:18
021 | Margot Morrell | Leadership during crisis
Mar 03, 202149:14
020 | Abigail Marsh | How fear is related to altruism
Feb 24, 202147:20
019 | Patrick Sweeney | Changing the narrative about fear

019 | Patrick Sweeney | Changing the narrative about fear

Has fear even held you back from achieving your dreams? Or is it your relationship with fear that held you back? Patrick shares his journey to change his narrative about his fears and how you can too. He is candid about how it changed his life in unimaginable ways. 

About Patrick:

"I grew up terrified of everything. I didn't have confidence or self-esteem. My biggest fear was flying. I made excuses every time I had a chance to fly – on exchange programs, to family reunions, for big races, I made excuses to cover up the shame I felt of being afraid. I was lying to the world and myself.

Then at 35 I got one of the rarest forms of leukemia. The doctors told me to say my good-byes. That was when I chose courage. Yeah, it's a choice. Not for me but for my 1-year-old daughter and unborn son. I decided if I beat the disease and got out of John’s Hopkins I’d get over my fear of flying. I did.

I decided I’d get my private pilots license. It was terrifying, but I still took the first frightening step. Then an incredible thing happened. I fell in love with flying. I now fly a stunt plane in aerobatic competitions. It is one of the greatest joys in my life, a true passion that was hidden from me because of fear. My choice had a halo effect on my whole life. Suddenly courage became my superpower. It all started with that first small step.

My life changed and so can yours. That’s why I left the lucrative start-up world behind; to write Fear is Fuel and help millions of people find courage and the life of their dreams. When we become authentic, strong and confident we can achieve world peace. That’s my dream"

Fear is Fuel (book)

Patrick's website

Feb 17, 202149:28
018 | Allie Reuter and Nick Kohler | College students on the front lines

018 | Allie Reuter and Nick Kohler | College students on the front lines

It's time to talk about hard things. Allie and Nick share what it's like being a college student during a 'once in a century' pandemic. We'll talk about what challenges they face as they navigate isolation, social media, dating, life after graduation, political unrest and mental health. This is an eye opening discussion from the perspective of the next generation of leaders.
Feb 10, 202143:56
017 | Mark Udall | Adventure builds mettle
Feb 03, 202146:38
016 | Shilo Brooks | Comfort is not the highest good

016 | Shilo Brooks | Comfort is not the highest good

This episode takes a trip down a different path than many of our guests. But it is no less relevant to the development of mental toughness. Shilo talks to us about how tolerance should be painful, strengthening the mind like the body as an exercise, and that comfort is not the highest good. What does your intellectual diet look like? This conversation will challenge some preconceived notions of what a good life looks like. 

Show Notes: 

Shilo Brooks is Faculty Director of the Engineering Leadership Program, Associate Faculty Director of the Benson Center for the Study of Western Civilization, and an affiliated faculty member in the Engineering Management Program and the Herbst Program for Engineering, Ethics & Society. He has held fellowships at Princeton University and the University of Virginia, and has been a visiting professor of government at Bowdoin College. He teaches and writes about leadership, liberal education, politics, and science. He received his Ph.D. in political science from Boston College, and his B.A. in liberal arts from the Great Books Program at St. John's College, Annapolis.

Nietzsche's Culture War: The Unity of the Untimely Meditations by Shilo Brooks

The Wright Brothers by David McCullough

The Coddling of the American Mind: How Good Intentions and Bad Ideas Are Setting Up a Generation for Failure by Jonathan Haidt and Greg Lukianoff

Jan 27, 202140:30
015 | Laurence Gonzales | Survival skills for everyday life

015 | Laurence Gonzales | Survival skills for everyday life

In this riveting discussion, Laurence shares his father's incredible story of survival from World War II. This led him to become a subject matter expert on survival. What separates survivors from victims? Are there secrets in the stories of survivors that can help all of us survive everyday life? We will explore all of this and more.

Show notes:

Laurence Gonzales is the author of numerous books and has won many awards, including two National Magazine Awards and the Distinguished Service Award from the Society of Professional Journalists. He was also awarded the Montaigne Medal from the Eric Hoffer Society in 2018 and won the Eric Hoffer Award in both 2018 and 2019.

After reading in neuroscience for several years, he wrote the best-selling book Deep Survival: Who Lives, Who Dies, and Why and its sequel Surviving Survival: The Art and Science of Resilience, which attempt to answer related questions about how people make bad decisions and what leads some of them to survive and some to perish.

His most recent non-fiction book is Flight 232: A Story of Disaster and Survival, a detailed reconstruction of the crash of a fully-loaded DC-10. It was adapted for the stage by The House Theater of Chicago and played to sold-out houses and rave reviews in both 2016 and 2017. It also had successful runs in both Boulder, Colorado, and Miami, Florida.

For more than a decade and a half, he has appeared as a featured speaker before groups ranging from the Los Alamos National Laboratory to Exxon-Mobil, and from the Wilderness Medical Society to the Sloan School of Management at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.

His most recent novel is Lucy (Alfred A. Knopf). His essays are collected in the book House of Pain (University of Arkansas Press). In the past he has served on the adjunct faculty at Northwestern University in the Medill School of Journalism, where he taught writing.

"Deep Survival: Who Lives, Who Dies and Why"

"Surviving Survival: The Art and Science of Resilience"

"Flight 232: A Story of Disaster and Survival"

Jan 20, 202147:35
014 | Marisa Porges | How to raise bold, courageous and resilient women
Jan 13, 202146:16
013 | Fireside Reflections | Why do hard things?
Jan 11, 202143:30
012 | Todd Stottlemyre | Be the observer of your emotions
Jan 06, 202148:28
011 | Fireside Reflections | Finding the good in 2020

011 | Fireside Reflections | Finding the good in 2020

Tara and Ron discuss 2020 and look ahead to 2021. They will talk about their struggles and triumphs this year. They will discuss what it's like to be a podcaster and what has surprised them about the journey so far. They review riveting highlights from previous and upcoming shows. They'll leave you with a glimpse of great things to come on the Forging Mettle podcast going into the new year. Don't miss this end of year wrap up!

Show notes:




Garth Brooks - The Road I’m On,Watch%20all%20you%20want.

The Hero’s Journey: Joseph Campbell on His Life and Work

The Hero with a Thousand Faces

Healthy Mind Platter (blog) by David Rock

Noble Leisure

Tribe of Mentors by Tim Ferris

The Obstacle is the Way by Ryan Holiday

Stockdale Paradox

Recommended Podcasts:

Rich Roll podcast

Michael Gervais podcast

The Happiness Lab

NPR: Hidden Brain podcast

Dec 30, 202001:02:16
010 | Julia and Travis Gentry | We dare you to pursue your dreams

010 | Julia and Travis Gentry | We dare you to pursue your dreams

This podcast breaks the mold, and unapologetically goes against the grain. Julia and Travis are not your ordinary couple with four kids. They refuse to be shackled to a dreary life devoid of adventure. They have boldly decided to follow their dreams and break free from what society tells us we should do, and they do it all with young'ns in tow. Tara and Ron have a fun and lively discussion that is well suited for the start of a new year and perhaps new adventures. Do you dare to follow your dreams as Julia and Travis have? If so, they can help.

About Julia and Travis Gentry


We are the Gentry’s. And we’ve decided to live our lives somewhere between brilliant and insane because we believe if it’s in you, it’s possible. 5 years ago, after having our 2nd child, we found ourselves living in a beautiful home, grinding out “the American dream” only to realize it wasn’t our dream. We found ourselves asking a very simple yet profound question: Is there something more? That started us on a journey of a lifetime…Now, we live to wake up Dreamers everywhere!

We started The Dream Factory And Co. to give people just like you the tools and resources to get unstuck and clear on what they want most in this life. Our greatest mission:

We are on a quest to constantly #rethink, grow and chase our dreams and now we are unapologetically giving you permission to do the same. It’s time to Dream. We dare you!

With our WHOLE heart,

Julia and Travis Gentry

Find them here:


"Iron Cowboy"

Dec 23, 202043:02
009 | Kyle Coon | Adapt, improvise and overcome adversity

009 | Kyle Coon | Adapt, improvise and overcome adversity

Kyle shares his views on creativity, problem solving, and finding a way. Instead of focusing on what you don't have, focus on what you do have. His message that we always have a choice and we are not helpless is empowering for us all. Join us as we gain real world tips on navigating your way through adversity in life.

About Kyle

Kyle Coon lost his sight at the age of six after a battle with Retinoblastoma—cancer of the eye. However, not having sight has not stopped him from pursuing vision. Since then he has become a competitive rock climber, downhill skier, runner and triathlete.

As a young child, Kyle was shown how to embrace his adversity by world-class blind athlete Erik Weihenmayer who encouraged him to live life to the fullest. Kyle took Weihenmayer’s advice to heart and began pursuing a life of adventure. In 2006, he hiked the Ankascocha Trail into Machu Picchu. In 2007, he summited Mt. Kilimanjaro at the age of 15. 

After graduating from the University of Central Florida with a degree in Communication, he became an endurance athlete competing in numerous marathons and triathlons. In 2018, he was a member of the first team of tandem cyclists with all blind or visually impaired stokers (person on the back of a tandem bike) to complete Race Across America—the world’s toughest bicycle race—racing from Oceanside, Calif to Annapolis, Md in seven days 15 hours. Later in 2018, at Ironman Arizona, Kyle became the first totally blind person to complete an Ironman branded Triathlon (2.4 mi swim, 112 mi bike, 26.2 mi run) in under 11 hours. He continues to push himself physically and mentally as he now pursues his goal of representing the USA at the 2020 Paralympics in the sport of Triathlon.

As a young man, Kyle has spoken to major organizations about his adversity and triumphs including various Rotary Clubs in Florida and Taiwan, the International Association of Refrigerated Warehousing, and The American Cancer Society. He has been featured on The Oprah Winfrey Show and in Backpacker and Triathlete magazines.

Losing sight has only served as a base for Kyle’s ability to master his ambitions despite his inability to see them. Inspiring those with similar challenges and sharing a few laughs along the way has become his trademark. Drawing upon his experiences as a totally blind person and adventure athlete, he demonstrates the importance of vision, commitment and courage to pursuing an “Eyeronvision” and embracing the adversity along our life’s journey.

While he wasn’t the first blind person to climb a mountain, run a marathon or compete in a triathlon, his goal is to be one of the best and ensure he isn’t the last.

Contact Kyle

If you'd like to have Kyle speak to your organization, ask him a question, or otherwise collaborate with him. You can find him at following social media sites.

Dec 16, 202030:10
008 | Jannell MacAulay | Utilizing a 'mindful minute' to find your badass warrior's edge

008 | Jannell MacAulay | Utilizing a 'mindful minute' to find your badass warrior's edge

This week in the forge, we talk with retired Air Force pilot, Dr. Jannell MacAulay. She is the founder of "Warrior's Edge," which provides mental skills training to military, first line responders and anyone in a high stress environment. We talk about how you can unlock your "badassery" and find your warrior's edge by doing some of the mental push ups she prescribes. Her philosophy is that we need to exercise our minds to make them strong just as we do our physical bodies. You'll enjoy this fascinating discussion where we even break a rule, or two. Don't miss this one! 

About Jannell

Dr. Jannell MacAulay is a combat veteran who served 20 years in the US Air Force as a pilot, commander, special operations consultant, and professionalism instructor. With her innovative leadership style, she was the first leader to introduce mindfulness as a proactive performance strategy within the US military. She continues to consult within the US government and corporate America delivering keynotes and a high-performance warrior mindset training program, called Warrior’s Edge, which she developed with Pete Carroll of the Seattle Seahawks and Dr. Michael Gervais, a high performance sports psychologist. She is a graduate of the US Air Force Academy, has a Masters Degree in Kinesiology from Penn State University and a PhD with work in the field of strategic health & human performance. Dr MacAulay is a TEDx speaker, certified wellness educator, yoga instructor, mindfulness researcher, and holds a certificate in plant based nutrition. She is a mother of two, military spouse, and a combat veteran with over 3000 flying hours as a pilot in the C-21, C-130, & KC-10 aircraft. Dr MacAulay is on a mission to help individuals excel in high-stress and rugged environments, by showing them how to lean into each moment to find their best selves.

TED talk, "How to Achieve High Performance Under Stress"

About Warrior's Edge

It is imperative to prepare our military with the mindset skills to not only fundamentally transform their individual lives post-duty, but to function as mental pre-hab in preparation for the necessary physical and mental stressors of active duty. It is time to transform the third largest organization and employer of our country from the inside out. Compete to Create has partnered with Dr. Jannell MacAulay, Lt Col USAF retired (combat pilot, military operational commander, and performance specialist) to bring their Finding Your Best training to the various military, government and first responder branches.

Calling back to the traditions of the ancient warrior, where a disciplined mind enabled smart and contemplative split-second decisions, scientifically researched and evidence-based mindset skills can fill a vital training gap and ensure each individual human weapon has the psychological flexibility to excel both personally and professionally to reach their full potential. Warrior's Edge provides the essential psychological tools to train one’s mind and command your thoughts under stress— no matter which arena you are in.

Dec 09, 202044:38
007 | Brad Anderson | How to keep moving forward with type I diabetes

007 | Brad Anderson | How to keep moving forward with type I diabetes

Multiple time Leadville 100 mile run and mountain bike finisher Brad Anderson shares with us the trials and tribulations of dealing with type I diabetes. Brad was diagnosed with adult type I diabetes just a few years ago. Amazingly, he just kept on running and biking long distances. How he continues to do these amazing feats of endurance and mental fortitude is a fascinating listen. Join us as we learn the secrets of how to keep moving forward in the face of uncontrollable obstacles.

Dec 01, 202032:05
006 | Kelli Calabrese | How the inner work will help you become intentionally fabulous after divorce

006 | Kelli Calabrese | How the inner work will help you become intentionally fabulous after divorce

We talk with a divorce coach as she shares how you can take a body-mind approach to healing after loss. Often we feel like a failure after divorce and a have a sense of loss of identity. We'll discuss pain through purpose, and how you can turn that pain into a catalyst for reinvention. Whether you are going through a divorce or not, this episode is about how to face a traumatic life event, process it, and then heal. You too can have a bonus life after loss. 

About Kelli Calabrese

After my excruciatingly painful divorce, I got certified as a Divorce Coach to get healed and help others do the same.

I founded Intentionally Fabulous and began my mission to help women going through any stages of separation and divorce go from fearful to fearlessly pursuing what sets their soul on fire.

I take a spirit, mind-body approach to help women redefine themselves to live an extraordinary bonus life filled with peace, joy, gratitude, self-love, and celebration.

My divorce left me filled with anxiety and in a state of depression. I went looking for help but it was all so scattered it was tough to find what I really needed.

I went on a quest to learn about how to heal from what I was experiencing. The result was a path that took me from that empty place to one of joy, freedom, and peace.


"Mom & Dadpreneurs: Stories, Strategies and Tips from Super Achievers in Family and Business" 

"Passionistas: Tips, Tales and Tweetables from Women Pursuing Their Dreams" 

"Success Habits of Super Achievers" 

Nov 25, 202037:29
005 | John Fitch | Creating a rest ethic to match your work ethic

005 | John Fitch | Creating a rest ethic to match your work ethic

In this episode, we explore the other component of mettle that is often overlooked. How do you spend your time off? How do you rest? Do you have a rest ethic? What does time off mean to you? For most people the answer is going to be vacation or holiday. But as John Fitch explains, to be our best it should go much deeper than that. Although rest and relaxation are part of it, it goes much deeper than that. Your rest ethic should serve as a nourishment of your soul through many activities that may surprise you. I invite you to give some of your time to listening to this important message in a world that is always "on" and dangerously teetering on burnout. 

We live in a time where busyness is seen as a badge of honor. Time off can seem like a forgotten or even despised concept. But in this book, you will learn how the deliberate practice of time off will enable you to be your most successful and creative self. Time off and leisure will be the essential skills and competitive advantages that keep you happy and unique.

"Time Off" book link

"Atomic Habits" book link (referenced by John)

"The Way We're Working Isn't Working" book link (referenced by Tara)

"The Top Five Regrets of the Dying" book link (referenced by John)

"Indistractable" book link (reference by John)

About John Fitch

John is a startup coach and entrepreneur. He lives in Austin, Texas and enjoys jiu jitsu, cooking and hosting dinner parties in his time off. 

"I love connecting new dots and creating prototypes of products and businesses. When new ideas aren't successful, it’s usually because a team was overconfident about how well customers/users would understand the idea and how much they would perceive its value. I specialize in quickly receiving customer/user reactions, before making any expensive commitments. It involves a lot of play, unlearning, and empathy."

Twitter @johnwfitch

Nov 18, 202043:23
004 | Shannon Huffman Polson | Using resistance to help you rise and the importance of narrative

004 | Shannon Huffman Polson | Using resistance to help you rise and the importance of narrative

In this rapid fire discussion with Shannon Huffman Polson, we discuss healthy ways to face your fear. Understanding and then owning the narrative arc of your life. If we can change our story regarding fear, it can help us overcome challenges, rather than hinder us. Shannon shares with us what it's like to face that primal fear in the cockpit of an Apache attack helicopter in Bosnia. And then relating it back to the pressure of being a keynote speaker and Today Show guest. 

About Shannon

Speaking and writing have been part of my DNA since leading our high school debate and forensics team and running the literary journal (when we still used scissors and glue!). I believe words change the world, and I thrive on seeing transformation come as a result of sharing lessons and stories through speaking and writing.

After a childhood in Alaska, I studied English literature and art history at Duke University. At graduation I was commissioned as a 2LT in Army Aviation and became one of the first women to fly Apache helicopters, serving on three continents and leading two flight platoons and a line company. In the midst of school and flying came skydiving, scuba diving, big-mountain climbing and long-course triathlons. To turn all that into something practical, I earned my MBA at the Tuck School at Dartmouth, and worked with some excellent people in the corporate jungle for a few years in the medical devices industry and technology. I started an MDiv (part-time), and decided not to pursue it, returning to my love of words with an MFA

Shannon's website 

North of Hope 

The Grit Factor 

Nov 11, 202036:26
003 | David Bidler | In the sport of life, to talk about mindset, we must talk physiology first
Nov 04, 202043:10
002 | Lesley Paterson | Mastering your craft, mollycoddling, seeking out adversity
Oct 28, 202040:04
001 | What is forging mettle?

001 | What is forging mettle?

Welcome to the forge! Tara and Ron discuss why doing hard things and resisting taking the easy path in life is beneficial to your wellbeing and happiness. Get to know your blacksmiths and why they believe this podcast is so important in our modern world. 

Oct 21, 202021:53