
Free Range Thinking - A Neurodiversity Podcast
By Free Range Thinking - A Neurodiversity Podcast
One of our first goals with the podcast is to find some languaging and words around the whole topic of Neurodiversity.
So please send us your feedback, your questions, your experiences with Neurodiverstiy, your languaging around it and everything else you think we should talk about.
Sharon's LinkedIn is: www.linkedin.com/in/sharon-leigh-pp4l/
and you can reach Alex via mail@alex-kahl.de

Free Range Thinking - A Neurodiversity PodcastMay 23, 2023

s02e18 - Sharon Hurley Hall is our guest about what would need to happen to be equality the standard & Star Trek
Greetings Friends and welcome to this wonderful conversation with Sharon, Sharon and Alex :)
Learn more about Sharon Hurley Hall here https://sharonhh.com
and on Sharon's and her sister Lisa's Introverts Sisters Podacst
Her bestselling Book - I’m Tired of Racism
And her Sharon’s Anti-Racism Newsletter
How Sharon and Sharon met
Misson Equality - where she is Co-founder for Leadership Education
Oooops - when the apology is different
Every week she learns something new - Like Stimming
diagnosed as autistic a year ago
High masking and low support needs
When certain spaces just feel wrong
Stimming and ability to synthesize information
Figuring out the stage of "is this something that is consistently me?"
The difference when you understand yourself better
it is SO helpful to hear those stories how ADHD and autism manifests in girls and women
because Alex can understand his daughter NOW better when she is 8 years old
to be supportive
There is not enough science and information for and about Black Autistics
Nearly all of the studies are done on white boys
How to learn on Mission Equality
The prussian school system that was exported worldwide
One size fits none
LINK
A.J. Singh's Article about The Colonisation of Neurodiversity And How To Break Free: Part 1
Neurodivergent - Neuroperformative - Neuralembodied
Relabelling - Delabelling
Artists are the Muses for society
The idea of Sharons Newsletter
IF WE COULD SOLVE RACISM - we can solve everything!
What could be the next cool crazy steps?
START USING OUR BRAINS TO THINK UP SOLITIONS
The Mission Equality Black Paper
Star Trek Discovery - All get what they need to do their jobs according to their needs
How do we get to THAT world
Jane McGonigal - Futurist Society - Imaginable
Star Trek Society has overcome the capitalist ecomnic system
Star Trek **is not only about earth people**
it is about **EXPLORATION**
Alex has never thought of star trek in a diverse way
We are wondering how it would be interesting to use the Star Trek narrative much more
because it is exciting, intersting and something a LOT of people like
It's not only about the technology but also about society
Part of being socialized as a woman
Be mindful about new people
Set the bar high enough and some people take themselves out of the equation
how to teach a **NOgotiation** to children
No rudeness - but opinions and clarity
Trust and Decision Making Scaffolding
The school Sharons daughter went to is older than the USA
The pandemic might have influenced the next generation in a very profound and positive way of connective awareness
How COULD the world look like according to Sharon
It's like building a cathedral
WE HAVE TO START
Planting seeds for the future
Maybe go back to societies before colonizers arrived
Get people thinking about solutions and
Would need to happen to be equality the standard wherever you are?

026 - Giving others a Manual for Yourself - Neurodivergents in Relationships
Greetings Friends! This Episode revolves around being a Neurodivergent in relationships. Not only romantic relationships but friendships, work relationships and family business.
Have fun and get in touch with us!
sharon.leigh@poleposition4life.com
and
mail@alex-kahl.de
Load on attention
1 1/2 until Sharon hosts her retreat
Being Neurodivergent in a relationship
Sharon's take on relatoinships
Alex is bit responsible for himself and for his girlfriend's reactions
overselfimportance
Aren't YOU perfect?
What kind of therapy exist for neurodivergent partners?
In Germany Therapy is REALLY not as accepted as in US
What is therapy for?
You just have to be open to discuss it
Dealing with medicine
Not putting others on the defensive
"I am reviewing who i want to be involved with. i am specifically looking for cooperative healthinsurance partners" - change the dynamics for my self made healthcare plan
Our boundaries
Minimize sensory overload
Example: The Wedding Reception - with earplugs
The reason why it took Alex until he was 40 to have kids
Choose from whom you learn from
Caretaker for older pepople with robots
Ali Abdaal - got the Feedback as a medical Student he had to work on his empathy for bein ga Doctor
Future of medical care
lowering the Egos on both side
"how to be a good patient"
Giving others a user manual for yourself

s02e17 Finding Partners in Crime, Cold feet and Organizing with ADHD
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sharon.leigh@poleposition4life.com
and
mail@alex-kahl.de
How to find a tool that is always interesting
- follow out interest to stay involved and focussed
- rotating in and out with intention
- go with the current and follow the lead of the interest
Does the boat come back around?
It is a bit like surfing
Alex Life or Death Trauma with Boats and all things on the water
Kayaking vs Kanooeing
Finding partners in crime
getting projects out of your head into reality
especially with things you are not good at
exercize buddies
social anxiety
motivtaion
getting out of doing something you love
high sensitive persons HSP and cold exposure
cold feet
hyperfocus experience in getting into topics and rabbit holes
Craiglist, ebay kleinanzeigen classifieds and AirBnB
Curate the Experience
how airbnb came along
The brown M&Ms and Iron Maiden
Neurodivergent people and the "Buddy Sytem"
Be current what you want to care about and focus on
Keepi it moving further ahead
"you know what you NEED to do"
Ask people what they would like to be talked to
Cleaning up a room with a system
"Where do you want that?"
OCD or Ritual?
Organizing in Montessori
The guests coming up the next weeks

025 KITTENS & HEROINE: Shame, Blame and Overwhelm about Play
Hey! We would love to get in touch with you!
sharon.leigh@poleposition4life.com
and
mail@alex-kahl.de
Feel the FUN and do it anyway :)
Do you need to deserve Fun?
How do you define fun?
The differences between the USA and Poker and Russia and Chess
How does Alex define fun? ( nd he is REAAALLLYY struglling with this question)
Being outside of the rules
What was fun for you and the elements of it as a kid?
How Alex built himself a job consisting of things he had fun with as a kid
Infinite games - finite games
poker US with Chess Russia
The gap between then and now
Why don't more people chose THAT
Do we take or make time
What when time is not there
For Sharon thinking things through is as much fun as executing
creativity is important
thinking is enough
Did she specified if time in the day - short term or time in her lifespan?
What has your family culture encoded in you about play fun?
Work ethic
Erst die Arbeit - dann das Vergnügen
Earn the play
Seriousness attached to games - Pen and Paper Roleplaying and Computer Games
Growth mindset vs fixed mindset
Light heartedness
Didn't play that much
My mom always lost
This is how human animals PLAY
Imagination
Curiosity
The pre-us way of entertaining ourselves
storytelling - discussing as a form of accessibility of things - things were SO complicated
Experimenting is play
Is not very valued in the workplace
Everything needs a purpose for Alex
He doesn't need permission
KITTENS!
The judgement-factor
What do we value?
Mimetic behavior - are we wanting
The balance of fun and destruction
**kittens and heroine - BANDNAME**
paying a price for fun
the tradeoff is time - scarcity
Boredom - baseline of entertainment and calm
learn self calm
Engineering as much interesing and fun things into life results in maximum creativity

S02E16 - Answering your Questions! Guess how many we manage to talk about
Greetings friend! In this episode we answer some of your questions!
We love to get even more in touch with you! Tell us what you'd like us to talk about or get on the show and talk WITH us!
sharon.leigh@poleposition4life.com and
mail@alex-kahl.de
Ah and at 41 minutes I left in something for documentation for me. There were two really loud BANGS you can hear in the audio that were the result of two Eurofighters breaking through the soundbarrier in Germany on the 1st of may. And it really scared the shit out of me :) No I am glad to have that recording.
And now let's listen :) Here are our notes from the show:
AUA: Ask us Anything! - it is like AMA but with multiple people :-D
It might be painful for us or for you all
QUESTION 1 - WHAT IS THE DIFFERNCE BETWEEN NEURODIVERSITY AND NEURODIVERGENT
Made up power-construct of what is normal.
When there is NORMAL then there is OTHER
The societal construct is an illusion
Being aware of it and create sidedoors
Labelling oneself vs. being labelled by others
Showing neurotypicals how to be able to value the complexity of neurodivergents
How to Citizen
with Baratunde Thurston - https://www.howtocitizen.com
Kinship and inclusiveness
Ask:
Are you interested in telling me more?
People are scared to ask because then they think the have the obligation to fix something
Shakespeare and Company and people in Wheelchairs
Modern theater as a metaphor for the overhwelm neurotypical feel with neurodivergent people or topics
QUESTION 2:
What's the difference between sensory and emotional sensitivity?
High Sensitve Persons vs people who are victims of there emotions
Baselines - for example for anger
a logical and a very emotional sibling
If you are a sensory type you can turn down a lot of stimulations - turning down EMOTIONAL sensitivy is really hard.
The difference between disappointment and frustration
(Learn to) Know what you need
Giraffe and Wolves Language
Non Violent Communication NVC - Marshall Rosenberg - https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_B._Rosenberg
Council for Exceptional Children
Self Calming
Long term goal is peace - especially in the Montessori Method
Ok.
We have an idea for the next round of questios:
Only 5 minutes for each question :-D

024 - Do Artists feel less shame and how to fortify kids against it
We now: the last 3 episodes were released in between 3 days :) LOTS of Sharon and Alex for you this week - but I wasn't able to edit the episodes earlier. Now we are back on track.
If you would like to reach out to us we love to hear from you!
Ask us questions, tell us your stories or get on the show and let's talk together about Neurodiversity in all its facettes:
sharon.leigh@poleposition4life.com and
mail@alex-kahl.de
And now have fun listening! Here are some of our shownotes what we are talking about in this episode:
Do neurodivergent suffer more or less from Shame?
What are the family implications?
Imposter syndrome
Tv recommendation: Severance - split work and private life
Corporate Cultures
Comparison to other people
What are the difference between coaching and training
Sharon's take:
Emergent learning and client lead exploration
Fascilitation
Corporate Artist
Marcus John Henry Brown again :)
part 1 - The Tangible Corporate Machine https://youtu.be/YKSa_8vt-sk
part 2 - WORK like an artist https://youtu.be/JuBmHHKj6jk
part 3 - Sanctuary https://youtu.be/boW6nwW5LYU
Do Artists feel less shame?
Do they deal with it differently?
or do they become artists because the lack of shame?
Sounds we make in a conversation
Do actors become actors because they want to be someone else?
Alexes 2016 Project: 100 Vlogs a day to 42
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLa1NuzVzxAu1R57qW5bJWQKPmSTYDlPr4
How to teach kids to have a healthy relationship with shame
Being judgmental with yourself leads to shame
Singing
Level of Delightment
Let others do that better
Fortify Kids for shame
Personality type as receptive
Motivation intrinsically or extrinsically
Neuschwanstein as a metaphor for neurodiverse achievement

S02e15 - Sharon shares her struggle, Stress as a Slingshot and Cat Napping Trance
WOOHOO! We surpassed 1000 listeners! (not that numbers matter that much to us - we would also do this just for our pleasure :-D) but we LOVE to know that you are listening to us.
OH! And you can reach out to us if you would like to: sharon.leigh@poleposition4life.com and mail@alex-kahl.de
Ask us questions, give us a hint what you would like us to talk about or come on the show as our guest and let's have a wonderful open and curious conversation about Neurodiversity!
And this is what you can expect from this one:
Our Filter is:
Are we having fun doing that?
WHY we are doing this podcast
one outcome for Alex
Collecting Stones, Rocks, Nuggets
What Sharon is struggling with
Share the pain :-D
Executive Functioning and the way the struggle manifests
How she works through it and with which tools and methods
The voice inside your head - that is puzzling and frustrating
The Evil EXCEL Table for a REALLY cool opportunity of a coaching platform
what makes it so hard for Dyslexic human beings
Stress as a Slingshot
Showing not telling
Self Therapizing
Why does nobody ask:
How do you work best? How would you like to receive this?
Why continue to suffer in a homogenous way of doing things
Support systems for resuce and emergency teams like paramedics and firefighters
You cannot choose colleagues and family members
How does Self-Talk look like
Don't use rewards but making things fun and enjoyable
The brain doesn't notice the difference of being IN a enjoyable situation or thinking about it
Infinite games
Find a good listening-partner
Co-active Coaching
It's like sparring-sessions
Voice in your head
HI REN by REN
Where does the negative voice in your head come from?
Positive Intelligence - The Sage for the positive voice and Judges for the negative side
Remember that a lot of things are just a sprint.
But a lot of sprints result in a far distance, too
Giggle to yourself and be rebellious
What does your internal supportsystem look like through the choppy waters
Salty water and nutrition
Readjust your expectations
Box Breathing while napping
Cat Napping Trance
## Tools
- snacking Cucumbers so Sharon doesnt eat something that throws her Brain Chemicals off
- lowest possible Dose of Ritalin
- The filter. "when I am 85 how would it look like then?"
- Box Breathing while napping
- Salty water and nutrition
- Giggle to yourself and be rebellious

023 - Neil Gaiman, Skunk Smell, MJHB and Neuschwanstein
The last was rough on the sickness-side so the episodes are late - sorry.
And hey! You can get in touch with us via Mail:
sharon.leigh@poleposition4life.com
and
mail@alex-kahl.de :)
Let's go for this almost 2 hour chunk of a wonderful (at least for Sharon and Alex) episode :)
Here are some Shownote:
Neil Gaiman for us at least means:
Lean and smooth writing
There is nothing extra
Sharon models him
Especially when editing
Neil was on Episode 366 of the Tim Ferriss Podacst
Read fiction opens your mind for stepping into possibilities
Get passed those layers of resistance
Workshop as a Fantasy Story - PnP Roleplaying
not without permission
first ask for
Wants, Needs, Fears and Expectations
Keynotes as Theater Performances
THE PASSING https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIj2a9Tlo4g
The Performance a year before - more a Literature Reading than a solo-character play - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTFKjXq77gA
both by:
MJHB - Marcus John Henry Brown - https://www.marcusjohnhenrybrown.com
Agile mindset - Sharon's Keynote for the Female tech conference
Wants vs needs expectations
How does a skunk smell?
And what to do against the smell:
Tomato juice or baking soda
:)
What feels like an adventure
Fountain pen exploration
Sharon's favorite colors for Fountain Pen inks
Indigo
Olive green
Umbra / brown
Change inks / change of thougts
Sharon's self made Souvenirs
animals from Canvas
Leinen Servietten
The Museum Wäschefabrik in Bielefeld stories
younger people who do not know what to do with their lifes
enjoy what they really want to do
awareness practice
a martial arts coach story
tools of perspective
narrow perspective on the bad feelings
self soothing
Sharon's Tips when you visit Castle Neuschwanstein
Imagine LOTS of artists and musicians in the castle
A full blown Multi cultural artistic Bubble
A Neurodivergent, genderfluide place
and a creative safety bubble
Take the route with the horse coach!

S02e14 - Being raised with abundance and not scarcity
The importance of play
book: Awaken your Genius
by Ozan Varol
Podcast Interview on The Human Upgrade
Sharon mowing the lawn
Being raised with abundance and not scarcity
Abundance of what?
Executive functions and ADHD
Giving us time to play
break out the vicious circle
Lifecoach Schook Podcast - abundance of money
Perception of time for children, animals and adults
Alex Hypothesis of Neurodivergents are often a bit more primal
Timeblindness for ADHD
Misspelling as an Alarm that goes of in one's head
Seeing patterns
Sharon's Filter for Who is this for?
being:
- open
- curious
- interested
Ozan:
we learn how to discard what does not serve us
the difference between abundance and overwhelm?
postwar and postcolonization generation
how to make technology accessiable to everybody?
scott pellet
are we using AI-technology for expanding or for gatekeeping?
Strong believes lightly held

022 - Who were your teachers and who are you modelling?
Greetings Friends!
This one from 2022 was very influenced by the Book Wanting from Luke Burgess and the concept of modelling he describes in the book.
Who am I modelling on?
is really hard for Alex to say - because some things he likes to model had to be separated from the person
- like Steve Jobs
- try to model for example thinking models like Reasoning from First Principles
- Stoicism
- Like to Model or be inspired by people who or whose work I like.
Have to differentiate their Life and Character from the WAY they do things or they think
and then see if it works for me
- Casey Neistat
- [[Quelle - Neil Gaiman]]
- Katy Bowman
- Ryan Holiday
- Seth Godin
- Gary Vaynerchuk
- Ali Abdaal
- Tim Ferriss
- James Altucher
Try to pick
What do children model
Book Luke Burgess Wanting
when Alex was a kid he modelled for example my older cousin and people from movies
today:
ALex doesn't model people he knows personally
Sharon:
Freshmanistan
Celebristan
George Carlin / Richard Prior
Die 2 - Tony Curtis - Roger Moore
Modelling Karate Kid
and wishing for Mr Miyagi
Yoda
Dumbledore
They are very caring and protective
You can model yourself but not the circumstances
Do nothing - conversations / workshop
Unhurried conversations
Slow food - slow interaction
Blogging for serendipty in ours
Modelling with intent
Writing. - not thinking about a target person for content - modelling neil gaiman for writing fiction conciously to get into the writing
Using neil gaiman's fountain pen
Art Matters
you are what you risk
The Artist's way
Ann Handley Newsletter
Taking notes in a converstaions
Follow multiple conversations
and people who cannot follow

S02e013 - Do you have neurodivergent ancestors in your families
Alex Kyushu Green Tea Pot
Stories about Ancestry and Neurodivergent Family Members
Alex remebers his uncles
younger uncle - social avoiding
older uncle - artist - psychologist - real estate agent - box promoter - advertiser
always the same family party schedule
PTSD in german grandparents after world war II
the amount of uncertainty in the lifes of our grandparents
180 years old children's stories
- Struwwelpeter - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Struwwelpeter
- Max and Moritz - https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_und_Moritz
- Grimm's Fairy Tales
Sharon's Rodeo Aunt
Being strict in situations you have no control over
and being very loose and relaxed in around horses for example
Advenureousnous in children of Immigrants to America
Feeling home in Europe as an American
Immigrants:
How did people get together back then?
in the village / tribe
How do families are founded today?
Otherness - Wrong to be differnt
Work ethic
Saying something between the lines
implications of living as a neurodivergent in a context of an irish / german ancestorial family in texas
rank and status system in the US
vs
school system in germany
cages made of mars bars
study the family with ancestral glasses

021 - Stories for living in a world that is not build for us
Greetings friends! This one is a great example for all those rabbitholes we manage to go down in one episode :)
Here a some Bullet points about the topics we discuss.
Have fun!
Comedians - Deep Questions without bashing someone
Political parties don't work anymore -
Especially not the large people's parties
The result:
One size fits all solutions like Putin, Trump, Berlusconi, Orban
What we need:
Stories that reach a lot of people
Stories that give people ideas and ways to do things
Stories that give people characters they can identify themselves with
Or
Find characters they can wish / look for in their lifes
For example:
Harry Potter
Where Harry himself is identifiable because he is like a blank page
But
A huuuuuge ensemble of teachers, mentors and concepts he and the reader can identify with
And a lot of characters that work together with him who can offer the same to readers
Sharon's take:
Model after other people
In US: sports stars - celebrities
Wanting by Luke Burgess
Trevor Noah calls people out
gently - but hard truth
some deep thinkers - not all philosophers
see what you've got
and what you are doing with it
unspoken norms
Behavioral Science
How to challenge unspoken norms and be always curious and a little bit unsatisfied
how can this be enhanced?
living in a world that is not build for us
it's not fair - people are chaotic
poeple that are pushing things, enhance them
understand the duality
implementing agile in a company
there is no magic pill
having exponential hope
Silver Lining:
Lots of people coming together
What can we learn from this?
When things are chaotic:
What can you change?
Believe System
sense of identiy and reality
What's important and whats interesting
people in power get to declare what's important
The word repent
changed from greek EVOLVE
to crawl
words twisted by people in power to control people
make discoussions fun, light
and not threatening
invite marginalized and neurodivergent thinking
we are living in a historical phase
how do we handle the pushback of the people in power
we have control about where we put our attention
who we surround ourselves with
who we choose as our models
how many of those five support your dreams and make you seen?

S02E12 - Primal Brains, Portals into Thought Kingdoms And: We have an INTRO!
Yeeees! We ha a musical intro!
Thanks to Faustine and Ajay!
Alex's Lizard brain kicked into fight or flight mode because of a Wildcat on the car radio
That combined with some insights from Our Paleo Diet time
ADHD = the Ancestral-Brain?
as Lactose Intolerant digestion systems are the original ones?
Sedentary Lifestyle vs. Running - Sporty people
Reading and numbers are even only 6000 years old
Neurodivergent people THRIVE in uncertainty
You need a neuronormative persons to build a machine like a plane
but a neurodiverse person to find a really interesting destination to fly to
And now put in the mix
Drugs and candy
The media - not even digital
Coffee
Sharons Family Stories and Cocktails of Neurodivergents
Problem Solving Skills:
"You gotta outthink it"
Ask kids: "What would you do about it?"
Flying is 98% boring and 2% madness
Sharon's Dad once built "The best antitheft device ever" for someone living on a boat
The great thing of digital tools and toys:
Doing fun stuff for YOURSELF!
and then
Share it with the tribe!
The Story of how Berta Benz drove the first car in the world for thefirst time in history!
Pedestrian to Pilot
Neurodiversity Analogy Flighing - USA tries to get you in the Air - Germany tries to keep you on the ground
Montessori Furniture
Prepared Environment
How order can help people with ADHD
Get a notebook and jot down what you need, want try out
what distracts you or pisses you off
or what sounds like a good idea!
Talk about your experiments
Create you environments
Cluttercore
Living with Stories and things that remind us of certain ideas
Things that are like Portals
Modelbuilders
Things like emotional records
Portals into Thought Kingdoms
Airplanes and screeming children
Listen to our beautiful intro in the end again without us talking

020 - Can Neurodiversity be a Superpower?
Greeting friends and sorry that we can't bring you a higher quality of shownotes this week but Alex is soooo tired.
Greta Thunberg
Superpower - neurodiversity
Media and reality TV don't effect neurodivergent
ND are no slave to the things society dishes up
live content like in Clubhouse or Twitch
Armchair experts
brenee brown hard things - unlocking us
new podcast - the one you feed
about breathing - johnny miller (curious humans) - nervous system mastery - 481
mindful surfer - 76 why some surfers are more stoked
joy - passion - self care
being focussed on ONE thing or multiple things at the same time
seeing patterns
behaviroal science passion
connectiveness
picture of god
ND in the workplace
what can we give - what do we need?
motorcycle analogy
what is the dynamics of getting back on track
bring our childhood bullshit into every situation
Martial arts
practicing under stress
LARP in small groups
braking practicing
brenee brown - vulnerability
what does a proactive vulnerability position feels like?
how can you practice vulnerability?
there needs to be awareness
ease into it
storytelling - choose something like a low hanging fruit

S02E11 - The Art of Giving Gifts - especially for Neurodivergents
Giving the gift of the decision
Presents that show you thought about somebody and know them
sending unexpected random stuff in the mail
What brings delight and joy to people
Washing machine manual checklist
Chocolate, Coffee, Tea
A FEW MOMENTS LATER
The Piglet Birthday :-D
Bad gifts make good stories afterwards in life
The hard things about pawn shops, thrift stores and flea markets
The power of stories for next time
today with an extro!

019 - Shame is a shitty motivator
Can neurodivergent people live better with a feeling of being needless in a work environment for example
The 2 meanings of the German word "überflüssig"
People who work in mining and the people in eastern Germany after the german reunion
"My inner life is so rich I dont nessecarily need other people"
Not all neurodivergent people are introvert
Family culture and what you get as a child
Who are you when you do not work?
Extrinsic or intrinsic motivation
Childlike joy of creating
Omagine something for whom this is - blogging for example
Disrupting Flow States
Alex personal knowledge management system
obsidian, bujo, common place book, sketchbook
How to remove shame
Shéhérazade - Saboteurs - Psitive Intelligence PQ program
and the Sage side

S02E10 - Grandma's Sushi, Circular Economy and which role Neurodivergents play in there
Alex Recap of the Barcamp "Circular OWL Economy"
Doughnut Economics - Seven Ways to Think Like a 21st-Century Economist
Kate Raworth
How Neurodivergents can play a key role in a curcular economy
what competences and skills
Sustain a high level of curiosity and inspiration
Diversity around Washingston DC
Making your own Sushi
The Hawaiian Grandmother's rice cooking method
Grandma's cooking methods are Recilience in action
The primal aspect of outside cooking
Downhill Parking
a great sport for neurodivergent people

018 - Important vs Interesting and Rabbit Holes of Cupcakes and One-size-fits-all
Hanna Gadsby - Netflix-Specials
#Book : 10 steps to the Net
Female Comedians
Podcast with Glennon Doyle - Words and Languaging
Interesting vs Important - NDs in the first group
Gaslighting
https://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?id=1564530722&i=1000555544362
Alex Ressource of ideas vs executions
Brevi Manu Store in Bielefeld
Recharge - Hanna Gadsby
A new definition of what's important
Instigate: Fragrance Finder in the Store
HSP are not in the targetgroup
A dillution solution to weaken the smell
Neuroscience and Car Companies
Sense Workshop
planting seeds and instigating conversations
The "I don't care" is really strong in us
Connecting Skills
Specilization is for insects
Ask people / Companie: "What is INTERESTING for you?"
What is the difference between interesting and fascinating?
Benjamin Zander - Work (How to give an A)
https://youtu.be/qTKEBygQic0
Parking Downhill:
How can we make "important" things more easy and interesting to us?

S02e09 Implications of Neurodiversities, Montessori and Metaphors
Greeeetings Friends! We start with a short and graphic ;) description of what is going on on the feline side of Sharon's household Alex shares a slightly dark story.
The Story is about how a Neurodiversity like Aphantasia theoretically could lead to really bad implications.
Especially for rehabilitation in Prison.
How Montessori Teachers are trained in recognizing the neurodiverse skills in Sensitive Periods
We should get a Montessori Teacher on the show.
If you know somebody - please let us know: mail@alex-kahl.de
Montessori in School
Reading with ADHD and reading to each other
and:
Reading to each other
Goodreads Account
Sharon's segway into
**Metaphors**
Writing Prose
Alex got a Typewriter - Olivetti Lettera 32
Book
Wonderworks by Angus Fletcher
https://amzn.to/3FC0pDl
Yes and,
we have SO MANY more opportunities for telling us anecdotes, metaphors, stories
when stories can be annoying
when they are overused
Storytelling Bootcamp
Not training the Tiktok Algorithm
Digital Garden Metaphor
Building Metaphor Tools
how to write out the best metaphors
to keep us interested
Excessorize me drawings :)
https://www.youtube.com/@excessorizeme
Temple Grandin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_Grandin
who has aphantasia and got read a lot of books to you as a child - let us know your experience
aaaaand:
all you engineers and technical people out there:
how are you working with metaphors and stories?
Don't explain something to ALex like he is 5 years old :)
Islands of knowledge
Quantum physics
and
Exotic sicknesses like in HOUSE MD.
imagine an auditorial learner with a blocked ear and forced to learn visually

017 The Indiana Croft and Lara Jones Mindset - or: Treasure Hunt for Mistakes and Resiliency
Greetings Friends! In this Episode of Seasong 01 of FRT we talked about mistakes and resiliency.
How do Kids deal with making mistakes
When does the shame set in instead of curiosity?
What kids can learn from experiments with mudpiles
0The importance of patience and time
Design thinking
Decision making
Tipp / Tool:
play GET LOST
What stresses people out about decisions
Buyers remorse
Alex wristwach experiment - treasure hunting (also applicable to fountain pens, typewriters and much more :)
Training out the mistakes
Alex first class experience
Canned decisions
Making decisions with OCD
Own your anxieties
Training of low profile decision making
Writing it down
Differnet types of dyslexia - I just dont care
Bought a REALLY good spellchecker for Mac
Do what we can do
**yes AND mindset**:
it is SO important to be selfaware
to make GOOD decisions
Indiana Jones Mindset:
It is an adventure and a treasure hunt
the TRAPS are more interesting than the ARTIFACT!
Youtube video about how realistic are treasure movies - an Archaeologist breaks down movie scenes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmKU44ZeuRQ
Neurodiverse people and decision maing
regretting a decision?
When to experiment and when not?

S02E08 - Maintain Friendships as a Neurodivergent esp with ADHD
Greetings Friend!
Yaay! We have a YouTube channel! And we love you to subscribe and share it! :)
https://www.youtube.com/@freerangethinkingpodcast
So you can also SEE us in out cozy recording caves :-D
So we got the inspiration for this episode from a comment on the YouTube Channel called "How to ADHD"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEHD8B33-wc&t=2s
Alex often heard how he changed in the last years especially from his old friends
Friendship making with Neurodiversions
Prinz: Autsmus Pandemie / Ist Autismus jetzt In?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKWOyZr0QUg
Celebrating the labels or dropping the labels
How Technology can making friendshipmaking even easier
The danger of online friendships all around the world
Finding your tribe
Culture of US High School
Change your group of friends
THe Courage to be disliked
How to make / maintain friendships
What do I need in a friendships?
Interestingness :-)
Out of sight out of mind
Life is already hard enough
Don't make it harder for each other as friends
Maybe we are suspicious to Neurotypical people
Social anxiety
Tip: Abstraction
Being social for my daughter
Try PnP Roleplaying
Want to come out and play?
Let's have a coffee?
Sharon's tip on ending social events.
## Links
- YoutTube Comment
- The courage to be disliked https://www.amazon.de/Courage-Be-Disliked-yourself-happiness-ebook/dp/B074TWG8V7/ref=sr_1_1?__mk_de_DE=ÅMÅŽÕÑ&crid=16F0OOEC335VL&keywords=courage+to+be+disliked&qid=1678638620&sprefix=courage+to+be+dislike%2Caps%2C273&sr=8-1

016 - When are you an artist? Alex caught COVID and Creativity
Geetings friends! This episode is from our archives after Alex's COVID Infection in 2022. In isolation he found out that he is an somewhat of an artist and has a lot of questions for sharon about the connections between art and neurodiversity.
Art in Isolation and Neil Gaiman
Bullet Journaling Ryder Carroll Style (Who also has ADHD and his Book about the Bullet Journaling Method)
Doodling in the night with Peter
https://www.peterdraws.com - https://www.youtube.com/@peter_draws
Drawing YouTuber Danny Gregory
https://www.youtube.com/@DannyGregory
Ales got COVID _and_ Creativity
Alex Question to Sharon:
When are you an artist?
We are what we ever claim ourselves to be
I am an astronaut!
Tom Sachs https://www.tomsachs.com
Where your passion lies
selling artwork is not a qualification
Definition of an artist
someone who creates
Geeking out about fountain pens
and
refilling the cartridges with siringes
Are left handed people automatically Neurodivergent?
Neurodivergents are creative experts in hacking the system.
Digitization
Life as art
2 Boxes of journals of Sharon's mom's journal
what's the purpose of keeping Art / Archives / Journals
Maybe: Evolution of our thinking
Justifying yourself for your art and joy
A dance with your self
The best form of meditation:
Being in the now
Are artists always neurodiverse persons?
The invitation to play and make mistakes
The art of people and fascilitation
Moderating workshops
Having Plan A, B and C
The danger of forcing ideas on people
Solution:
Your bag of Tricks

S02E07 - How to think like a connective Futurist - our Wundertüte
We start with Sharon's next level French Pastry Leftover Recipe :)
Followed by a brief recap of Sharon's trip to the NFT Convention in Paris
https://www.nftparis.xyz
Encouraging underwehelm
Alex's conference tips for neurodivergent people
Sharon is going to reengineer the perfect event for neurodiverse poeple
Dissolving the Pitch Persona
Sharon's profession as an Ambience Alchemist
What are you willing to be surprised with?
A project from the NFT convention:
Moonpage for writers - https://www.moonpage.io
What might be the Facebook for the web3?
Being a resource for a specific group other people
that coaches each other
curating the superskills, energies and inspiration
Innovating the languaging and describing
Butterflies and Bumblebees
Alex Pig butchering re:publica Story
Low Tech behind the scenes allows the Tech to flourish
Give yourself selfpermission to make the switch to connect with the intrinsic motivation.
Designing for all
How to think like a connective Futurist
Equality vs Equity - MacGyvering
Tech for the infrastructure of change
Planting the seed of selfvalue in Kids - especially Girls

015 - Mistakes are a bruise - not a tattoo and can turn into resilience
How to see the Silver Lining in mistakes
Being punished for doing it different
Resulting in a self-doubt cycle
Introverts and extroverts
Ego and the protectiveness around us
Do we have a headstart as neurodivergent?
Make micromistakes every day
Mistakes are a bruise - not a tattoo
When Alex's daugther is twenty - what would he wish for her
What resiliency tools would i like her to have
Healing habits that are no longer useful, that are only in the neuronormative world
Give people courage and helping them to explore Neurodiversity and name the discomfort
When WE claim our superpower - we can much more easily accept that OTHERS are some kind of different as well and help them to use THEIR superpower
without having the feeling that we are threatened by them
Get us out of shame and give us pride!
"Can't you just..."
"If you would just do a bit..."
Can you just TRY to do X a bit better"
Find the usefulness in your Neurodiversities
School System should have:
Life as an essay - questions
What did you learn on the job
Why does it matter?
What was good
BUILD A RESILIENCY MODEL!
Mining Sharon's experience and survial tactics
Sitting on a goldmine of information of people who are marginalized
People weren't happy before the pandemic

S02E06 - Where do you work best? Imagine working in Schloss Neuschwanstein :D
Being in a BIG convention
as a human sponge
NFT Event in Paris
How Sharon prepared and organized a side-event to let people come to YOU
One day AFTER the event
App:
We should ask Sascha Lobo to be a guest
How to thrive in loud places and at home
Ignorance is bliss
Libraries & Cafes
Working with Music
When Alex worked in front of a band playing in Red Rock Coffee in Mountain Dew
THE CONNECTION WAS LOST HERE FOR A SHORT TIME :) Just so you wonder
Work in Churches, Tiny Houses, Tree Houses and CASTLES
Imaging working in Schloss Neuschwanstein
Hundreds of years of experience with solitude in monasteries
Talking to interesting strangers and working while travelling
Not being able to talk on the telephone when there are other people in the room
Where do you work best?
Alex: Working in a completely empty room vs. working in chaos and clutter
Object Permance
Needing visual clues
Sharon's Studio back then in the Black Forest
and the Bullerjan Oven there
Be careful when you let introverted people who live very remotely pick the vacation appartment :)
The beautiful Bookstores Video by Max Joseph
Live Housekeeping Session of two Neurodiversive podcast people :-D

014 - MACGYVERGASM as the ultimate hack to how we can make it easier?
Uh! This episode has a hidden intro :-D We started talking right away, dived into different rabbitholes and interluded the inro somewhere on the way :)
Have fun listening and we love to get in contact with you!
Write Sharon on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/sharon-leigh-pp4l/
or Alex via Mail at mail@alex-kahl.de
Here are some topics of this episode:
Why smartphone Alarms are really bad as a Todo-List :)
How to macgyver yourself to do stuff
Find a new word / term für [[Neurodiversity]]
like
Alternatively Hardwired
Level up human tech
Womens tech neteork
How did you come up with alternatively hardwired?
Core personal myth
The snow flake method for Storytelling
by Randy Ingermanson (@SnowflakeGuy)
Listener feedback - you have to turn off the inner judgement
How to have constructive conversations
Did you have any troubles to get through the industrialized school system?
How easy from 1 to 10 is it for you to work in a 9 to 5 job
Sketchnoting - drawing notes
Getting Neurodiversity into schools
The importance of Recipes
and the Experimental Mindset
Martial Arts lesson for the head
Finding your Macguyverism through the catalyst of story
MACGYVERGASM = The Ultimate Hack :)
The Swiss Army Knive
The pride in solving something with unusual means
Robotic competition
leading to
makers faire
tech camp for girls
Mentoring
What would be the first things sharon would build with mentee-kids?
Interestingness:
Flying a drone vs looking through the eye of a drone
Model bashing and Scratchbuilding
Adam Savage build in a day
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uS7A4x31PY
Sharon's Dad building a complete Apollo Lander Spaceship Simulator in the garage
Talking about Artist Tom Sachs who builds hiw own lifesized Space Missions from Plywood
Alex is a tool user not tool builder
How can we fascilitate the integration of people into our worlds

S02E00 - Interlude - No Episode today - we were lost in a rabbithole of Housekeeping ;)
Just a short Greetings friend!

013 - Travelling, Big Cities, Hugging and Hierarchies für Neurodivergents
Greetings Friend! This is on of our first Episodes, so it might sound a bit different than those you are used to already :) It was recorded on Febrauary 7th in 2022.
We talk about things like:
Travelling as a Neurodivergent
Fire house delivery gear
Being born in a multichildren family not diagnosed
Being in a big city like Paris
Do you think differently while travelling in comparison to being at home?
Habits of peole who are not so aware
Neurodivergents, Primal behaviours and hierarchies
What are your models in your Life?
What are the models?
Identifying with characters in stories liek Disneys Raya and the last Dragon
Sometimes it is just not possible for people on the spectrum to walk across the room and hug somebody

S02E05 - Garrison vs Combat Mindset - Neurodiversity in the Military
Greetings friends. Today we have an interesting topic to talk about. We start out with strong habits since Alex managed to publish on his Blog on 100 consecutive days AAAND:
We started our Free Range Thinking YouTube Channel
First w talk about Brandon Sanderson's 10 years Mindset and the AD(H)D instant gratification mindset inspired by this Video by writer and YouTuber Jed Herne
How do we feel and think about the Babysteps?
How doing a LOT of Babysteps in DIFFERENT directions is the Polymath approach
aka
- A Pile of Ants
- A Bee Hive
- The Drunken Master Steps
That can mean: Walking AROUND a goal instead of towards it in a straight line
Sneaky Sharon tells Alex the idea for the Fantasy Book we have to write.
We got some Feedback:
So Alex started with Yoga - The Yoga-App is called Asana Rebel
On a party someone asked Alex:
"I heard about aphantasia on your podcast"
Then finally we takl about
Garrison vs Combat Mindset - An idea by Jocko Willink on the Huberman Labs Podcast (around 19:11)
Working as a Chef with Gordon Ramsay
Or FRT as a Food Truck Daily Reality Show :)
HBO Contacts anyone?
FRT is Consistency and Fun for us
Adventurer / Explorer Mindset
Back to the military :)
The German Military in the 90ies
IBMs method "Capture the Hill"
Premium Cola and Uwe Luebbermann as an example for a democratic company
Hierichal structures are great testing grounds
Autistic Person in the Air Force
24 as a theory as a tool for political influence
Some Neurodiverse humans are good at Red Teaming
and
Lateral thinking
Sidedoors and Backdoors
Red Oceans and Blue Oceans
Book Recommendation: Blue Ocean Strategy
It does not need to be for everybody!

012 - No yawning: 24h Watercooler Conversations with Saskia Listle in the collaborative, neurodiverse Startup Household
THAT Episode-Title is a mouthful! :-D
And heeeere we are again with a new Interview Episode with Saskia Listle. First we have to say a little sorry: We were so engaged in the conversation that we totally overheard Saskia's connection had some hiccups. It's a minor annoyance but it should be possible to follow our conversation.
How did you find out your brain works differently?
How to see when the other one is maxed out
Logical Aphantasia
Learnings from being a Concierge in a High Class Hotel
How to interpret and act on hostility?
Yawning
Is there a way to make yourself interested in things?
How to get back into conversations you are not interested in.
Why is it yawning?
Because you are tired?
Or because it is an inappropriate thing to do in most situations?
Important: knowing yourself and your needs
How to live in a collaborative startup household as a source for serendipity
24h watercooler conversations
Accidents are frowned upon
Dying is forbidden
How much is on the living together side and how much on the collaborating side?
Don't have any unspoken norms!
Get that stuff on the table
- wants
- needs
- fears
- expectations
With HUMOR in it - it can be healthy
Negotiating a personal manual for ourself
The secret smell Saskia can't tolerate in the morning
Here you can find out more about Saskia:
2. Saskia's Podcast: Conversations with my Future Skills
3. Her Newsletter: the grey area
4. And her Website: www.saskia-listle.com
Hybrid humans: is one of Saskia's and Sharon's projects
and PSSST: They offer BEAUTIFUL art on T-Shirts - like NFT-Shirts :)
Book mentioned:
RANGE - David Epstein - Generalism

S02E04 - How important is Laughing in Learning? - especially for neurodiverse people
Greetings friends to Episode 4 of our second season of Free Range Thinking!
You can reach Sharon's via LinkedIn and Alex via Mail.
Curiosity is tied in
Anchor important things with humor
Studies about learning and laughing
Is Memorizing useful or not?
Giving speeches or keynotes to neurotypicals
Hic sunt Dracones!
Coach
Laughing and fun in Martial Arts - differences between traditional martial arts like TaeKwonDo and more western ones like Boxing and Kickboxing
Laughing while Sparring. And when people are VERY serious it gets even funnier
Sharon's Yoga Teacher Voice 😀
The Yes-And Mindset
Where is the point when people lose their open mindset
...There is the death of a thousand papercuts again
Growing up in a very acidic and heavy household with JOY SQAUSHERS
How did parents(couples) like that ever get together??
Who is more joyful - catholics or protestants?
Emerging humor vs studied humor. Using jokes again and again
Shadow of the Gods humor and neurodiverse implications

011 - Being good in a crisis, Hyper Adaption and Universal Design - Pt. 2 with Matthew Bellringer
Here we are again with our second episode with the wonderful Matthew Bellringer going even deeper down some exciting neurodiverse rabbit holes!
You can reach Sharon via LinkedIn
and Alex via mail@alex-kahl.de
Our Homepage is http://free-range-thinking.com/
find short Clips on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@freerangethinkingpodcast
Hyper Adaption
how we interact with the environment so it meets our needs
and how it's Trauma related
but not specifically Neurodivergent related
"if we don't do THIS - bad things will happen"
Hyper Empathy in autistic people
and
how we can manage other peoples level of feelings
Differences between Masking and Hyper Adaption
Hyper Adaption are the tools we use to mask
Hyperlexia
and not saying "sorry i didnt mean that"
Strong Language, Fast Thinking, Shame
being strong but poorly coordinated
ADHDlers are well in a crisis
because we have PRACTICE with crisis :-)
It is a threshold, a transmission point.
Universal Design
Perceviing signals of change earlier
can intimidate Neurotypical people
We need categories and (helpful) words
Preemptive selfjustification
Object Permanence and ADHD
Environmental Design
We can create an environment that suits as or does NOT suit us
How neurodiversive people might be more like chaos (not chaotic) and neurotypical people are more like order
Another kind of asthetic
Framework and flexible design
Explore specifics and
How people can play around with it
Neurodiversity as an organizational benefit
Matthew's languaging around neurodiversities
Links to Matthew
- https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthew-bellringer/

S02E03 - How would you help people to find out what they are naturally good at?
We start with a question about Self awareness and identity but also really practical.
You can reach Sharon via LinkedIn
and Alex via mail@alex-kahl.de
Our Homepage is http://free-range-thinking.com/
find short Clips on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@freerangethinkingpodcast
In German there isn't really a word for Self-Awareness
How would you help people to find out what they are naturally good at?
Intrinsic motivators from our childhood and how it was outcultured through family and culture
Ask: "how do you want to feel?" Not what thing do you want to be or do
Shownotes Glennan Doyle - Doctor Becky Family Dynamics
How to teach kids to trust themselves
Where do you dwell?
How Alex ended upbeing some kind of Detective, somekind of Mac Gyver and some kind of treasure hunter.
Areas of security and privilege
We look for an alternative expression for "Death by a thousand papercuts" but: with a positive connotation
How Alex came up with the idea for this episodes through a Wordpress writing prompt:
Write about your first name, its meaning, its heritage and so on
Identity as a Tag in the clothing
Pronouns and identiy
Gracious Patience :-)
Our new definition for Death by a thousand paper cuts (and ChatGPT helped us with it :-D)

010 Sometimes the right answer IS masking - with Matthew Bellringer 1/2 Creative Innovation Guide and Neurodiversity Advocate who sounds a bit like Neil Gaiman :)
We talk with our third and wonderful guest, Matthew Bellringer, about how to get over the barricades and work with individuals and organizations on complex and wicked problems socially, techy plus human relations.
Matthew's neurodivergent Bingo card: Dyslexia, ADHD and Autism
Matthew changed how Sharon speaks about high functioning and low functioning.
What is Atypical Autism?
When you meet one person with autism you met ONE person with autism.
If you are a problem for others you are likely to be diagnosed, whereas,
If you are a problem for yourself - you are less likely to be diagnosed.
So:
Diagnostic factors for neurodiversion is how we annoy neurotypical people.
If you are part of a neurominority you tend to distrust your internal state because the world tells you it is wrong.
Differences between hard empathy and soft empathy.
Strategies for how you can turn a "you are functioning in a wrong way" around?
How to develop awareness how to integrate and practice sensory awareness into skillful self-expression.
Fear with bureaucratic authorities up until being at gunpoint with the police because of neurodivergent behavior.
Sometimes the right answer IS masking.
The trick is having the choice!
When you study psychology - how much neurodiversity taking place there already?
Aphantasic - but also hyperphantasic in a way.
Having proceptic sense in space - knowing the relative relationship of things in space without knowing how they look.
How neurodiversity works in other pathways, other journeys and the analogy of the Schiebepuzzle = clusters are moving in the brain.
Is it possible to recreate the creativity in adults?
Flexibility in categorizing: Cognitive piles instead of boxes.
We enjoy the puzzle of things that contradict ourselves. It's our kind of sudoku :)
We become experts in our fields of focused interest, like elite athletes or musicians find pleasure in hours of training or practicing.
When we are doing something different and succeed with it - THAT scares people.
We internalize other people's feelings which leads to: I learned to be afraid of it because OTHER PEOPLE are fearful of this
Alex's observation:
Matthew sounds like Neil Gaiman! :)
And: Neverwhere works as a great allegory for unmasking
Our Downhill Parking: Another way of Aesthetic and languaging around universal design
Links to Matthew
- https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthew-bellringer/

S02e02 Tools for Neurodivergent Humans, ChatGPT as a dance partner and the Nann-AI
“If it works for now: Milk the HELL out of it!” (Jesse Driftwood about tools like Journaling)
Alex: The Idea of constant reinventions and evolving is much easier nowadays because with every new tool out there you can build upon the last steps.
Some tools we talked about:
- Zettelkasten
- Obsidian
- Drafts
- Evernote - for the more librarian-like type
- Notion - more for people on the architect-side of knowledge work
- Obsidian - gardeners and those who want Zombie-proofed vaults :)
There is NO MAGIC BULLET that solves all your problems, tasks or whatever for you
Sharon played around with ChatGPT for a proposal and found it is a GREAT tool to start on a blank page with an inspiration
Sharon’s using ChatGPT like a “thinking dance partner”
Alex likes to call ChatGPT Captain obvious :)
It is a bit like the neurotypical answer so that you can ADD the Neurodivergent things to it
Interesting and fun ways to use ChatGPT
Would you rather type with a tool like ChatGPT or talk to it - and let it generate the result in print later?
Voice Dream Reader as a tool that reads books and articles aloud for you almost like an audiobook
Professor Alex's historical view on knowledge-technology like reading :)
How to use tools like ChatGPT constructively against Hate Speech
Links in this Episode
Jesse Driftwood and Levi Allen’s Podcast
zettelkasten.de - english community about and introduction to the digital zettelkasten-method and the digital tool thearchive
antinet.org - english site about the analog / paper based method to the zettelkasten
Antinet Reddit - english Community about the method
Douglas Adams 3 rules of technology

009 - a (meta)-conversation with our Guest Torsten TROJA Jacke - about High Sensitive People, Polymaths, Neurodiversity in Companies and so much more
A (meta)-conversation with our Guest Torsten TROJA Jacke - About High Sensitive People, Polymaths, Neurodiversity in Companies and so much more
Aaaaaand this here is our biggest Experiment - yet!
This whopping 3:15 hours Episode has two parts:
1. The first part is in English - Sharon and Alex talk about a conversation they had with their second guest Torsten Roman Jacke - aka Troja Aktivist42.
2. And since that conversation was in german we appended the German talk after the English episode at 1 hour and 28 minutes.
Please enjoy Sharon butchering the German grammer! ;D
So please tell us if you listened to the German version as well and what you think about our meta-conversation ;)
You can reach Sharon via her Linkedin Profile https://www.linkedin.com/in/sharon-leigh-pp4l/ and Alex via e-mail: mail@alex-kahl.de.
Aaaaand here are the show notes!:
Alex tries to explain the concept of Flachwitze really briefly and unsuccessfully :)
How was it to follow the German conversion with an ADHD Brain?
Key Takeaway Alex: Neuro-Utopia
Experiment was to bring people together
DEI - Diversity Inclusion
Companies are saying: How can we make money from these new-fangled Neuro diversities?
We think: How can we help stop the usual “profiting on the backs” of the maginalized?
Moving the needle on ND Culture in a whole culture
Book Recommendation: Tipping Point by Malcom Gladwell
…….Back to Torsten Roman Jacke 🙂
Avalanche of Change
What does Sharon think about Troja’s differentiation of high sensitive and high sensible people?
Think how powerful it would be if Tom Cruise’s Maverick in Top Gun would be shown as an ADHD or autistic person!
The Problem with Neurotypical stories and storytelling
The town of Bethel inside the city of Bielefeld
Supermarkets in France who turn lights and music down on ND days
Why don’t people analyze themselves?
Alex’s rant about a family member telling his daughter
“The seriousness of life begins now with school”
..and Sharon’s advice :)

S02E01 - ChatGPT, ADHD and the struggle to finish things
Greetings Friend! Heeeere we are again 🙂
This is our second season in 2023 and we explain in the intro why and when there are still a lot of episodes coming from season one :)
In this episode we are talking about which new years resolutions of other people Alex adapted, since he does’nt believe in new year resolutions but silly like to use them as inspiration.
We asked ChatGPT an interesting question:
Why is it so hard for people with ADHD to finish things
And the quality of the answer might surprise you.
Sharon shares her Tips and tricks for finishing things with ADHD
The concept of Paying in Energy (Spoons) https://happiful.com/what-is-the-spoon-theory/
Alex often struggles with finding preparation time
Sharon's mom always said: "You don't need to put your foot on the gas - just take your foot off the brake"
Give yourself Permission to experiment
Sharon would like to experiment with AI generated music
Take the time to show you care
Baselines and Cheat days
If we are not aware of something how can we reduce it, accomplish it, know what we want out of it or what we prefer?
The plan: Writing a MANUAL FOR YOURSELF
Sharon is an Ambience Alchemist - being HSP helps her A LOT
Key for Finishing for Alex: #1 is Reducing Friction
Alex Experience with Micronutrients Bloodanalysis
and
Back on Keto diet, YAY!
How Alex beautified his physical and digital workspace
ChatGPT’s answer to the question:
How do you keep humans from using ChatGPT in a shitty way?
Links we talked about:
Tim Ferriss and Mark Manson
https://tim.blog/2022/12/30/mark-manson/
Steve-O and Casey Neistat and how they work
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdZqvkWaYaE
Sharon's and Saskia's ☕️🍰 Hybrid Humans Café!
https://us02web.zoom.us/j/86275907540

008 - Our 1st guest Nick Perry: Neurodivergents add something to the tribe and: In Chaos the best thing is to take action
00:00:00 - We wander in and introduce Nick Perry, Agile Coach and a neurodivergent human being
00:03:30 - Nicks Neurodivergent Launrdy List
High Sensor Processing Sensitivity
Sharper senses than 85%
Downside: Working memory is super small
00:06:47 - can you forget on purpose?
He flipped his personality and conciously changed to not be an arsehole
The skill and curse to recall everything
00:10:30 - Nick to teacher in elementary school: "No, I don't learn like that"
How was school for Sharon and Alex
00:14:30 - Alex Montessori experience as an adult
00:18:30 - Nick's mathematical observation of the world
00:20:20 - How it might have been for Sharon's neurotypical sister growing up together
00:23:20 - Aphantasia in the school system
00:27:30 - The upsides of Aphantasia and the compensations
00:31:00 - Neurodivergent are good improvisers
00:33:00 - When a teacher tells a neurodivergent to do what's in the book :)
00:36:00 - How schol was for Sharon with Dyscalculia
00:38:30 - Does it matter if you don't explain HOW you got to your soultion in math and other subjects
00:40:20 - Trying to make things happen is HARD. LETTING things happen is much more easier
00:42:25 - Too much sensory input in School
very similar to ADHD in some regards
Chemical reactions in the brain und pressure and fear
00:47:30 - Unlearn to get deeper into the unkown
How to read books with ADHD
[Blinkist Book Summary App](https://www.blinkist.com/de/)
[YouTube Channel Procutivity Game ](https://www.youtube.com/c/ProductivityGame)
00:53:00 - The bone Sharon has to pick with Blinkist ;)
00:56:20 - The Problem for Alex with complete books
and the solution in Zettelkasten Method
01:00:00 - How Nick reads and digest a book
01:03:00 - Neurodivergents add something to the tribe
Sharons party story
01:06:00 - Maybe abilities that almost look psychic have something to do with neurodiversity
London School of Psychic Studies
Decoding Human Behavior and its obivous patterns
01:12:30 - Would it have helped you when the teacher would have explained the WHY?
01:16:30 - There are more of us out there and if you saw one you can't unsee it :)
01:17:45 - Being born in complexity: How do you use your tools as an agile working coach
Complexity and Chaos and making sense of them with the help of high sensitivity
Growth mindset, values and principles
What is possible from here?
[Cynefin framework](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cynefin_framework)
every moment like reborn and start from now
agnostic what agile is
01:21:00 - Trying to make the unkown known
chaos: JUST TAKE AN ACTION - see if you can find some knowledge
the drowning example = get something floating instead of making a plan
in Chaos the best thing is to take action
fixed way of thinking vs growth thinking - do something unexpected
Neuroplasticity

007 - Stupid SMART goals to find (not only neurodiverse) People who you would choose to be stranded in an airport with
00:00 - Intro
00:01:45
Parking Downhill: Partnering for Neurodiverse Entrepreneurs
00:04:00
building something with the comfort zone of a loose structure
00:07:55
Stupid SMART Goals
00:10:33
Finding project partners für neurodivergent people
Startup Mindset for TIme - win-win-win
The "People who you would choose to be stranded in an airport with" hiring strategies of companies
00:19:00
We can teach you skills, but we can't teach you to fit into the company culture
00:25:00
Working with people you dont like
00:31:00
Learning through pain with Gordon Ramsay :-D
00:38:00
Dealing with high level baseline of impatience
00:45:00
The power of Self-Awareness and Self-Editing
Who are you intrisically motivated FOR
The (good and power) of:
What would people think?
00:48:00
Making mistakes is your job as a teenager:
Diversification of Identity and self
Being an instigator and support system
Change a lot of people a bit
or change a small group of people a lot
You can't force individuals or companies to change
Emergence Collaboration
00:56:00
Change companies to agile
Future of Work
Best example why agile has its flaws Alex ever heard
01:04:00
Sharon's best filter criteria for people to workshop with
- open
- curious
- interested
01:17:00
Helping Groups to teach each other is the key to self-eduction
Parking downhill
neurodiversity and self-eduction
Test projects for neurodiverse people

006 - Baselines and Defaults
Here we are again with an interesting question:
What is a baseline? What are your baselines?
For example: ANGER
How quickly do you return to your baseline / default?
00:04:20 - Baselines are formed in Childhood
The Joy baseline:
Why am I not consictently happy?
Being aware of the baselines:
Life consists of peaks and valleys - to return to.
00:07:30 - Is it that bad to change someone else?
Change us or help us being more adaptlabe?
00:14:00 - Picking Mentors and Collaborateurs
What is more problematic - where is the most suffering? Family, worklife, friends
- misunderstood
- not the right support
- using your feats right
Neurodivergent in the worklife
00:18:30 - Default for Sharon is focussing on what she can do and how to hack it
You can change your defaults.
Baselines are not so easy
Logicking into a corner is a default
00:28:30 - Keep mentally hydrated
Change the Buttons or the Default Behavior
What's your Level of Selfcare?
Keep baselines like Sleep, Nutrition, Relaxtion in check
00:35:00 - Difficulties in Neurodiverse Stuff
A lot of Shame is involved
Defaults for Sharon should be:
Curiosity and Amusement
00:47:00 - When did it turn around for Sharon?
00:50:00 - What when two different baselines collide
Example: Not hearing so well can develop the Superpower of being able to Read People
People bringt THEIR shit to the table we have no control over
Default:
- be curious
- ask questions
01:03:00 - Hardwired Brains vs Neuroplasticity
More Energy to process stuff = more sleep
What if you have a hearing disability AND are a auditory learner?
01:17:00 - Languaging around Neurodiversity
01:24:00 - Growing up in different high - or low functioning environments
Base of Self-Value and Condifdence
01:28:00 Engineers and what is a good fit partnership for Neurodiverse Entrepreneurs
Parking Downhill:
Being / becoming an Artist - with Neurodiversity

005 - Let's have a deep conversation and find out what we can learn.
The Episode where we talk about growing up as a neurodivergent person in the 60ies aka "Sharon's Mom said..." :)
In this episode we set out onto our conversational journey from a very special starting point: Sharon's mom and how she raised her kids very intuitively in the 1960ies and 70ies.
When does a mentor become a mentor?
05:45 How was Sharon's' mom educated to be a Mentornow: collection of people
How can you be critical thinking in a NICE way
Sharon's Mom was also diagnosed with ADD
11:00 Her origin StoryGrowing up on a dirt farm in Texas
In our society women are taught to sacrifice themselves
Civil Rights Movement but never an angry protestor
22:10 She could make something out of nothingShe was a great connector in DEEP connections
Typing faster than you can think
Reston (Washington DC) - Council for Exceptional Children
Bringing stuff home and test them on Sharon and her sister
Materials about feelings and emotions
Asking really good questions Active listening Decision makingYou think EVERYBODY does that
No TV: Read and discuss
The Power to make other people do something
Sister extroverted
Sharon doesnt know what was natural and what was learned
Dyslexia in your 30ies - Resilient - Hack Life
Superpowers
38:15 - Having a Neurodiversity CatalogueWe can hack Life What motivates us What triggers us
Shame and Guilt as a Motivator
Sharon was taught to watch and listen
It was life lottery
Picture galleries in facial expressions
Exposed to a very rich environment of neuro disablements
53:30 Knowing about where to find out more e.g. Sceptic SocietyHow to teach children how to make decisions
Ask: Really? Tell me about it "MAKE me believe!"
Illustrating books
The once no mommy
00:58:00 - Alex: Teach your kid Sign-Language before it can speakIt does avoid sooo many conflicts
Telling your kids why
Teach the kids how to self calm
1:10:00 How to be a polymathadministration writing dancing artist - painting photography Editing photography Improv Group Acting Survival Skills
Her message:
Centered on being - not doing
Anything is possible - No Limits
Every year: Family Retrospective - about family Values
Kids aren't born judgemental YES-AND-Expert Learning: THE ART OF PEOPLE
01:22:00 Sharon got her bases through her Mom's Master's degreeBeing an artist Getting into the Training and Coaching field Program: First and experimental Program
01:26:30 Let's have a deep conversation and find out what we can learnCuriosity Tap into our core selves you can train the muscle of knowing what you want
01:40:00 General Assholery and thoughtlessnessthe 20ies are incredible narcicisstic and selfcentered times
no punishing voices in her head
01:45:00 - Hyperphantasia lived in a self-punishing way Questionscomplete openess and understanding we are all equal
Critical thinking and no judegement or bestrafung Trust your own judgement
What do YOU want? What do you think is important? what do you want in the family culture? how might this be for other people and families? what was hard about it? what did that mean? (disability for example - Wheelchair, Blindfolded a weekend) Parking Downhill: A catalogue of Neurodiversities
004 - Compressed Time, The Laboratoy of Life, gentle Catpsychology and asking questions that make you wanna talk
Come in and get a front row seat in Sharon’s and Alex’s head! It is a RICH space in here! :-)
Sorry about the crackling noises sometimes. That was Sharon’s Scarf on the Mic and Alex didn’t realized tzhat while recording - they were so deep in the Conversation.
00:00:00 Intro and why we haven’t got a proper Intro (yet) :)
00:02:14 - Parking Downhill: How can we be more inclusive with Neurodiversities or: How can we as neurodivergent include more neuronormative people?
00:09:00 - What if “the others” don’t know about neurodiversity and: A (possible) solution and Sharon’s Tools of the Trade
00:12:00 - What if you don’t have Time, Conversation and Listening - so: No kind of Trust
00:16:00 - There are patterns and stuff is gonna surface… WHEN you create an environment and keep asking quesions with an open mind
00:22:00 What gave us energy when we were kids (and why Sharon phrases the question this way)
00:23:00 - Why do we like mysteries so much?
00:25:00 - Hic sunt Dracones - Here be Dragons - in ourselfs - Maturity and settling down
and:
the 3 Curiosiuties
00:36:00 - Emotional immaturity and growing up with Sharon as a sister
00:38:45 - Getting people aware of the is something like Neurodiversity
00:39:30 - Are you controlling your emotions as well?
00:41:00 - Emotional differences between being a man and a woman in controlling emotions
00:44:00 - Couple challenges between emotional and rational partners
00:46:00 - Hypersensitivity and being logical
00:49:45 - Catpsychology: How Sharon learned as a kid to reflect on her own
00:51:30 - That is SO Montessori!
00:55:00 - The Laboratory of Life … and the right, curious questions that make you wanna talk: What do you think about today?
00:58:00 - Give people TIME to explore quesitons and: The Montessori Beads
00:59:45 - Compressed Time
01:01:00 - Derekt Sivers and his mocent recent book How to Live
01:03:00 - Inviting people into your world
01:06:00 - Share on! Sharon :-) and the explanation of Kalauers - we get Lost in Translation for a short moment :)
01:07:30 - Sharing inspite of imposter Syndrome and: Having it in my Head is ENOUGH
01:15:00 - Building a structure and storytelling for FLOW-states
01:21:00 - Behaviroual Econmoics how do we make the decisions that we make and HumanOS
01:26:00 - Renovate your Life: Midlife Crisis
01:30:00 - What are good open questions? and giving permission to challenging, negative emotions
01:35:00 - Parking Downhill: How did Sharon’s mother know all that?
and
are we going to make Shirts with: “Sharon’s Mom said ”

003 - How can we be more inclusive for Neurodivergents - from School to digital Tool
00:00:00 - Intro - The Parking Downhill Note
00:01:30 - Alex is haunted by a Washingmachineghost - live on the record!
00:03:30 - Note taking Systems, Stress and Anxiety coming from keeping a structural organization
00:09:30 - What does “work on your system” mean?
00:13:30 - How to use different times of the day for your individual energy-levels
00:16:45 - Give yourself jobs to your selfconcious
00:21:40 - Reading for calming down the mind
00:27:15 - How do you capture ideas when you are scared to forget them with ADD?
00:31:00 - Having our Tools of today as a Kid (and being ALLOWED to use them)
00:37:00 - Possibilities we now have with digital tools - without any romantic :)
00:46:00 - Fortunately the education system is adapting to ne new possibilites to learn for kids
00:51:10 - Learning from the naturally best teachers. And what it means to be a really good teacher
00:58:00 - Just imagine whar artists are capable of doing dotay
01:10:00 - How can we make digital tools more inclusive to everybody on every device but to Neuroodiverse people especially
01:20:00 - The idea for a solution: AI Translator that translate in realtime to any neurodiverse brain
01:26:00 - The fear of the unknown
01:29:00 - The reason why in Germany the police could get your kids to school and the problems with the digitalisation in modern educational systems

002 - Neurodiverse Nutrition Nemesises
This episode starts with Sharon telling a story about Behavorial Modification with Bracelets. It turned out so fascinating, that we kept it in the podcast.
Then we dive into a lot nutrtion-topics for neurodivergent people.
00:03:00 - Intro with Behavioral Modification with a Bracelet of Beads
00:08:00 - Sliding smoothly into the Maintopic Nutrition and Neurodiversity through Micromovements
00:11:30 - The distraction factor of nibbling and the general effects of Nutrition, Paleo diet, Low Carb and MCT Oil as Jet Fuel on the Brain
00:13:30 - Alex experiences with Paleo Diet, Reset Challenges and getting rid of a fridge by accident
00:16:00 - Nutrient Equality and some of Sharon's recommendations
00:25:00 - Nutrition in the Workspace
00:34:30 - What is your Food-Nemesis and how poeple suffer from it
00:37:00 - What about Dopamine_Baseline und Sharon’s mom’s nutrition strategy
00:46:10 - Snacks that are just designed to make you want more of it
00:51:00 - Dealing with Family and Friends when you change your Diet-Habits
01:00:00 - Parallels between the industrial education and food system -> Industrialized Humans
01:05:30 - Failures of our parents
01:12:00 Community Healers and Eyerolling
01:19:00 - Going Paleo and getting rid of the Fridge
01:23:00 - Override Impulse-Eating and Sugar in Kids
01:26:00 - (Self) Awareness as a Superpower
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001 - Collecting Neurodiversities - There is no bucket list
Welcome to the first episode of Free Range Thinking - a Podcast which starting point is Neurodiversity and from there we - that is your hosts Sharon and Alex and you the listeners - go right off into the weeds and down different rabbit holes ;)
One of our first goals with the podcast is to find some languaging and words around the whole topic of Neurodiversity.
So please send us your feedback, your questions, what you are experimenting with yourself, your experiences with Neurodiverstiy, your languaging around it and everything else you think we should talk about.
You can reach Sharon via LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/sharon-leigh-pp4l/
and Alex via Mail@alex-kahl.de
OK, let's go!
Here are the Shownotes and the chapter-marks for our pilot episode WHOOOHOOO!:
00:00:00 - Why are Sharon and Alex doing this Podcast about Neurodiversity?
00:02:30 - Putting language around Neurodiversity by Sharon describing her ADD
00:05:00 - Alex take on finding new neurodivergent Features and learning about himself
00:09:30 - Which neurodivergent Feat did Sharon noticed first? - ADD, Dyslexia (Number-Dyslexia, the Aspberger Spectrum, Tourette)
00:16:30 - HSP Highly Sensitve Person
00:20:30 - ADD as a Superpower, Thinking really fast and the Scientist Mentality
0:24:45 - Painting a Map of Neurodiversity - Alex first Features he discovered. Drawing with Aphantasia
00:29:00 - Dealing with emotional people is hard for Alex
00:31:00 - Earning a degree and just BEING something. A Heart Surgeon for example
00:35:55 - Being a Polymath, Renaissance Person, Scanner Personality
00:37:30 - How the Internet helps being neurodivergent - e.g. because of Niklas Luhmann's story
00:42:00 - Spezialization - Being alive NOW - the effect of the pandemic on neurodivergent people and the bandwitdth people have to deal with right now
00:46:00 - The beautiful thing about podcast and going aaaaaaall over the places ADD-Style :-)
00:47:45 - Resilience is suddenly eeeeeverywhere - braught up by Neuronormatives
00:49:00 - IT SHOULD BE LIKE _THIS!_ - or should it?
00:55:30 - Reigning yourself in means you can't think freely
01:01:00 - Learning that you are on some spectrum and how to use it for your benefit without a lot of shame
Aren't all people neurodiverse in some aspect or the other?
01:08:00 - How to break the grey, ultrastructured mold of society and how it is hard for neuronormative people to deal with diversity
01:13:00 - The value in scientific stories - Micronutrients and ADD / ADHD
01:19:00 - Neurodiverse Management and not all C-Levels are living by the sea :-D
01:24:00 - The ripple-effect of Life-Changes like nutrients like MCT-Oil and Energy-Boosting
01:27:30 - Parking downhill for the next Episode:
Nutrition!
01:35:00 - Our thoughts on our first Episode :-D
01:37:00 - I AM A LEGION - or how Sharon's last name is pronounced in different cultures and languages :-D a
01:39:30 - We as Neurodivergent carve our own Path through collaborative learning by experimenting