Free Range Thinking - A Neurodiversity Podcast
By Free Range Thinking - A Neurodiversity Podcast
One of our first goals with the podcast is to find some languaging and words around the whole topic of Neurodiversity.
So please send us your feedback, your questions, your experiences with Neurodiverstiy, your languaging around it and everything else you think we should talk about.
Sharon's LinkedIn is: www.linkedin.com/in/sharon-leigh-pp4l/
and you can reach Alex via mail@alex-kahl.de
Free Range Thinking - A Neurodiversity PodcastJul 17, 2023
S02E24 - Just a short Hello ;)
We just chatted on this one and just recorded these short greetings :)
033 - How imagining takes the shock away - Jane McGonigal
travelling as a neurodivergent
being overwhelmed by people
or
by expectation
preloading energy
segway into
Book: IMAGINABLE
by Jane McGonigal
course at stanford
muscles for imagination are very well developed in sharon
Sparring in Martial Arts takes the Shock away
like imagining takes the shock away
preparing for blackouts, anxiety
Prepare to being rediculous
Nature and Nurture
Raise kids being on the spectrum
it bothers us but it doesnt stop us
Montessori
Trust
female human animals are people pleasuers
trust own instincts and trust their own selfs
- freunde finden, freunde verlieren, angst davor ablegen, alleine sein
neurodivergent have more experience with taking a punch into the face
"thats the way society is"
as a neurodivergent in FRANCE
with all that kissing on the cheek :)
how much energy it takes to meat the demands of sucial and cultural
idea
RENT A NEURODIVERGENT
a Mediator
"What is your wicked problem?"
TV Series like Scorpion
underapprciated skillsets
like seeing around corners
Penetration testing for Business Models
https://tim.blog/2022/03/16/jane-mcgonigal-imaginable/
032 Resources for Neurodiversity
Don't take anything as gospel!
Analogy: Neurodiversities as Flavors
paté de canada with corn chips and sour cherry
keep your mind open - you know you! you GET TO know you!
ADD/ADS without the Hyperactivity
back off from diagnosis self assessment get to know yourself
don't be too serious about it
self-diagnosing bashing
mac gyvering your way through life
ask on reddit: what neurodiversities do you have that are lesser known?
sharon's mom knew SO much AND was SO competent in using that knowledge
NEVER tell them they are stupid but find out how they understand the world in a different way
so since most people haven't won the life lottery like sharon with her mom we have more tips:
Sharon's sister: "You are two-faced" and meet yourself for the first time
if a teacher tells you "you cant do it" you can answer "maybe you are just not the right teacher for me"
IMPORTANT: think about your expectations for example: what do you usually do... imagine yourself at home, at work, at a party and what would you do 8 times out of 10? Do you like to be in a ballpark, in a swimming pool or on a race track?
you need the permission to call bullshit
let out who you are is helpful for example to find out HOW to deal with it, how people might react to that, how you can use it
search ADHD on instagram and go down the other hashtags
watch youtube videos and find people you like and can relate to
there is NO one size fits all
laboratory of US
the world is much more aware and you have unlimited ways of discovering and finding your preferred way of communication
Sharon's Calendar Moca
what is useful / works for you?
Thrive and not just survive
if something doesn't feel right: question it!
Wanting - Luke Burgis
Range - David Epstein
Interviews with Richard Branson
Ed Catmull from Pixar - Aphantasia
get into communitiesa TON of informationwhat does MINE feel like?be your own scientistbe curious and find out what fitswhere would you look to find out more about which Neurodiverse-Attribute could beAlex Tipsin Kids:think back your childhood (and life) if there is a pattern when people said something about youchoose your teachersHannah Gadsby Body of Work is a great resourceMBTI Test - with a grain of saltthe journey is precious and important!advice from the pregnancyWhy don't you just use...You have to be careful with lists, experts, therapists, research!Resources
S02e23 - Flow, Autotelic and Exotelic and the ability to selfcalm
Rereading Finding FLow by Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi
Incorporating Knowledge over time
The Maid - autistic and OCD detective in a hotel
Explosion of research around everthing neuro
Autotelic and Exotelic
selfgoals and outside goals
intrinisic and extrinsic desiries
Wanting, by Luke Burgiss
Art of Impossible by Steven Kotler
Why are we motivated to different goals
and how much is it effected by being on the spectrum?
The Courage to be disliked
Montessori Method and Trust in themselves
Parenting with Games
Emergent purpose
Evaluation languaging
Experimenting
10 years ago how much would this have effected me?
The normal people and the notnormal people
The ability to selfcalm
acknowledging emotions but going through them
oh that is interesting or an adventure
There is only one way to find out: TEST
view yourself from the outside
asking myself what kind of neurodivergent feats might be at paly here
How do we develop our selfcalming and flowstates in workplaces
Deciding a group isn't for you
use an intro YOU design for yourself and test it
not as an identity
but as HELP for others
introducing yourself as a neurodivergent
s interesting for others AND makes it easier for them
People who are rolling their eyes about others feeling special
031 - Shame, Reward and Punishment
Shame
Hackupy Scham CO2 Fußabdruck Seth Godin
"What did I do to deserve this?"
Reward and Punishment
instead of WOW this is amazing
positivity vs negativity
churches and religion
the bible is like Tarot Cards
Tools
pass along cultural norms
there
the problem when you are really good at pattern recognition
and contradiction
and what is NOT working anymore
and what is a blatant lie
exclusion
back then help the less fortunate
together we are faster and better than alone
From the Church as a Shame Machine
we get to
How people project things on neuro diverse people
Writing down all Ideas to talk to Sharon about in a HEY SHARON file :)
all people Sharon talks to in the last weeks are ALL neurodivergent
Label / language yourself
it gives indescribable freedom
Labeling is something powerful
Being labeled by others is great for Alex
then he learns about himself
giving the labels an AMAZING meaning
projecting something on others
example:
not being self confident
people don't show the inner work
being on the spectrum and having the luxury of being able to develop a sense of self naturally
self
identity
ideology
teachers in montessori
empathy in medical studies
Sharon's Mom: council for extraordinary children
THE HORSE! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCfndagI_k4
running forward or backward
creativity
Test and Measure Creativity
George Land - NASA
retain creative capacity
cultural punishment factors
and
losing the pathways in the brain
how can we help other people to reconnect
- meditation
- sport
- taking time and being in nature
reconnect with childhood creativity
behavior modification bracelet
BONUS:
Shame and Church
S02e22 - Ideas for Workshops, a Platform for Neurodivergents and: You can send us messages!
Greetings Friends!
You can send us Voice Messages on the Spotify Page!
Pleeeaaase try it out!
And you MIGHT end up in one of our episodes :)
What Sharon threw off guard this week.
And how other people reacted to it
aaaand sharon observed herself during it
Saskia and Sharon as Guiney Pigs for a training.
Drama and emotional intelligence
Navy SEAL Team of Coaches
Emotional Intelligence
Let's build a Platform for Neurodivergent Coaches and Trainers
Getting support in recognizing some really shitty family dynamics :)
What is normal and from what power structure does it come from?
Pathfinder Mindset and the level of discomfort
Homework for Alex :) - when do I put myself in a wandering situation
Difference between searching and wandering
Alex found his style of wandering
The ones that got away
THE cello musicians for Sharon an dALex
https://www.zoekeating.com
https://www.apocalyptica.com
It plays into what I observed last week: ADHD Ripoffs
cheap Notion Planners
little ebooks that seem really put together very unmotivated
Especially when it is REALLY expensive
Navy SEAL Team of Coaches
IDEA Workshop Emotional Intelligence
What is Emotional Intelligence?
A Workshop as a Emotional Intelligence Gym
Self Permission
instead of
Self Sabotage
Perspective and distancing
not taking things personal
How could you advertize that to a company?
IDEA: Let's build a Platform for Neurodivergent Coaches and Trainers
Idee und Technology von Creare Pausa
Train them to do coaching and workshops with neurotypicals
I offer the Platform my help to make the EXCEL Sheet into a Google or EXCEL Form
A database of neurodivergent Coaches - for neurodivergent coachees - and for neurotypical company people
030 - What are DAOs and are they interesting for Neurodivergent working at one
Greetings Friends and welcome to this technical sounding Episode of FRT! But: It is not that technical as you might think :)
Sharon and Alex talk about Dezentralized Autonomous Organizations - short: DAOs
Are they communities Is it a forum? Or a company? Or a univserity? something for learning?
some are VERY loosely structured can be frustrating and slow for some people
- concentric circle -
is there a blueprint for DAO?
- housekeeping and decision making by a coregroup can be smoother - when there is enough emotional intelligence - understand to work with people
- Future of Work
- Sharon'S tkae: a group of really smart people
Is it more about the people or the technology
it is more about building a community to solve problems its not about the tools
come up with challenges and problems the want to solve contact the DAO Group and get into a meeting
DAO sounds a bit like a German "Verein" - Club Alex comparison to the Montessori Club in his town
Jeremy was hired to talk at DAOs how to get started with their structure
The Shopping List of DAOs
DAOs ask: "How do you think to fit in here?"
Tiny House Bielefeld eV
You need Patience
The passion of the DAOs...
you can move humanity forward only globally otherwise its colonization
Culture and Borders of the Group
Living Documents
- how do you work?
- what gets on your nerves?
- what makes you progress?
- what is the vision
- what are the rules
- why are we doing this and that
- how did we get to this point?
some DAOs recommended by Sharon
what are DAOs?What differentiates DAOs from a website or Forum?Example: Fashion Design around Ballroom DancingAlex Voice Message StoryDocument and tell your story consistentlyWhere to go from here
s02e21 - Chris Marshall talks with us about Gin, the Science of uncertainty and how he helps people to be optimistic about change and the future
Greetings Friends! Meet Chris Marshall: A behavioral and uncertainty scientist with an endlessly curious Oldschool Aspie personality.
Find more about Chris Marshall on
His Website, on his own Podcast Transitional Matters, his Book DECODING CHANGE or on LinkedIn.
And of course on the Forager Distillery Website where he works as a Master Distiller. ;)
- Discover his passion for brewing and distilling Gin, including a memorable moment in a Belgian bar where he asked for the bartender's favorite drink.
- Hyperfocusing on gin and the creation of Foragers Gin, inspired by juniper bushes along the M25.
- Embracing uncertainty as the fundamental skill for navigating the Age of Awareness.
- Exploring the layers of the world and the impact of slow updates versus fast updates.
- The influence of artificial stress, suspense, and fear in various aspects of life.
- Delve into the concept of uncertainty as unlimited potential and the what influenced Chris's thinking.
- Understanding the stress response and the importance of becoming the master of your own stress response.
- Introducing the Pause, Pause, Move framework as a physical and mental tool for stress regulation.
- The significance of awareness, radical self-truth, and reframing procrastination as a white lie.
- Reflecting on the Stone Age and the need to reduce overload and complexity in modern life.
- The relationship between state of mind and environment for optimal thinking.
- The Tolerance of Uncertainty Quiz and the role of self-awareness in managing uncertainty.
- Practical tips for accessing your best thinking, such as taking important questions with you to the shower or car.
- Exploring the Pathfinder Mindset, resilience, and the pillars for successfully navigating change.
- The synthesis of the Pause, Pause, Move model and the role of joy in decision-making.
- Contrasting joy and happiness, with joy being the magic formula to returning to a default state of well-being.
029 Unlocking sustainability and circular economy through Neurodiversity
Greetings Friiieeeends! :)
This Episode holds for you:
Rewriting the LinkedIn Bio with a focus on company culture and living documents
- Importance of making the story repeatable for sustainability, neurodiversity, and circular economy
- Need for diverse thinking from people on the margins of norms and around the corners
- Critical role of creativity and faster thinking for the future
- Sharon's Flow State and balancing coaching and artwork for a surf startup
- Exploring the use of NFTs and meeting deadlines with AD(H)D
- Pressure and motivation: self-imposed or from others in the context of company romance (CoMance)
- Understanding DAOs, power dynamics, and relationship dynamics
- Avoiding sneaking knowledge through the side door
- Delegating culture through awareness, biases, norms, boundaries, and trust levels
- Developing a common language to facilitate communication between neurodivergent and neurotypical individuals
- Building awareness and non-judgmental attitudes for trust and group dynamics
- Confidence-building techniques and overcoming overpreparedness
- Increasing awareness of personal superpowers through listening, reading, watching, and engaging in conversations with neurodivergent circles
- Recommendations for communities and resources on LinkedIn, NeuroQueer, YouTubers, NessLabs, and Reddit
- Evolving communication and interaction in the digital age
- Empowering individuals to ask for what they want and work in ways that suit them best
s02e020 - How to find Collaboration Partners
Greetings Friends!
Our podacst guest got caught up on a mountain top :)
So we had to freewing this episode and talked about:
How NOT to find a Collaboration Partners - and how to do it in a good way.
Know thyself
what do you
- need
- want
- is fun for you
The Operating Manual of Me
Editing is OK for me but STARTING the editing process ist REALLY hard
Tim Ferriss Five Bullet Friday
Great for Sharon
Too structured can equal boring for Alex
Live Collaborating :-D
Sharon is the right person for podcasting for Alex too
Alex would be not curious enough on its own and too concerned that a topic is not interesting enough.
Sharon is naturally great at getting a conversation started
Some things you CAN do alone but they are better with a partner:
Like sparring or playing tennis
Sharons widsom podcast Wizecracking
Sharon's filter of everthing:
2 choices to start a project with this or with this person
with which person you would like to be stranded for 8 hours in a shady airport in?
Alex story when he did travelling around the world in 80 hours in germany.
Do you feel save saying no?
Does the person has a sense of humor about themselves?
Being adapt plug-pullers
With all that is in our heads:
How do we get these things out?
[[FRT BOOK WRITING SUMMER CAMP 2023]]
the Tucker Max - Book in a Box Workshop
and Sharons Happy Meal of Meatball Sundae
Why it is hard to collaborate for Alex in real life
researching, learning, throwing legobricks of content on the floor and build a space station
Montessori Methods in agile companies
Sharons TV-series Recommendation:
Ted Lasso
4th principle
**We Don't know**
We have a Book Title there! :-D
Back to how to find a collabortive partner?
Where to find one?
- LinkedIn and put it out in the universe and see what you get back
- Start your own movement
- WhatApp Story / Status and ask if somebody knows somebody - that is a bit more private
- Write a DM to people on LinkedIn or other contacts and ask them if the would collaborate with you
- join a community like NESS LABS (free or low priced) or cohort courses (often expensive) like altMBA from Seth Godin or the Book in a Box course or Youtuber Academy by Ali Abdaal
- Discord Servers or Reddit Groups
- Start a Working out Loud Circle
Sharons closing question about the opposite thing of
Death by a thousand papercuts
Freudensprung
Glücksmoment
Alex and the ONE word nothing rimes to in german is APFEL
028 - Learning Language as a neurodivergent, Notetaking and Consistency
Learning french
how can neurodiverse people
Reading
Listening
English as secret language for parents :)
Learning with
DuoLingo
Babble
What does a learning app need for neurodivergent?
THe concepts of Notetaking:
Architects - Gardeners - Librarians
Tiago Forte
Maggie Appleton
How cool would be an app that finds out about your neurodiversity
Lucy's Cave Children's Story
Dangers of AI
Homogonizing the diversity
How can you convince a CEO to use diversity for an advantage to get ahead
rebellous diverse group of AI designers
Ernst Ulrich von Weizsäcker
NOW-Drunkness
why isn't it ok to be a pebble to make a ripple effect
the long game
infinite games
what are you daily consistent about?
planting and nurturing seeds
posting every day?
taking time for thinking and reflectiing everyday
Sharons consistency gives her a solid structure
Seth Godin - writers block - plumbers block
Monday Models
Lydia's BMW
Neurodivergent Entrepreneurs
Startup Couple
Freakonomics Podcast with Harari
s02e19 - Different take on Gratitude and Words to live. Not only live by.
Greetings friends, in this episode we talk about sayings, quotes, phrases and words to live. Yeah. Word that you can live. Not only live by :)
Sharons experience of talking about things in another language.
Whan Alex talks about Neurodiversities and ADHD, Dyslexia, he uses the english words because it sounds more playful and curious than using the German expressions.
The WW II Squirrel - Eichhörnchen - Story
Sharon's Cheese-Buying-Incident in France
Alex seeking Supermarket Adventures
The loop back to the podacst :) New culture - like starutp culture The difference between being busy and hustling
Transition into something Alex wanted to ask Sharon People use technology to solve problems that came from technology in the first place
Postits with affirmation, habits instead of gratitude
Sharon's take on Gratitude does it come from DOING or BEING? being of value without DOING something
EXPERIMENT: 1 thing in the doing 3 things in the being category
Do you have postits or reminders on your desk, mirror or whereever?
a Commonplace ROOM instead of a commplace book
- that which i most resist is what most threatens my identity keep your mind open
- If you are the the smartest person in the room
- keep seeking the strangeness
- what am i doing to grow my capacity for sitting in the discomfort of being wrong?
Zip-Lock Bags in the Showers with Sayings
027 - Painting Murals, Neuschwanstein and the Power of Ambience
Greetings Friends! Here we are beack again after the 2022 summerbreak and the intro is directly interrupted by Alex's daughter to give Alex the update about the budgie bird :-)
And then we meander through topics like:
Castele Neuschwanstein
Ludwig II
Lover of Wagner
Pacifist
How great must it have been to be an artist in that space
Sharon about painting laaarge Wall Murals
Jungle Wall Murals
Was wurde aus den Künstlern in Neuschwanstein?
The power of ambience
Sustainability of a work like this
Alex thinks or is creative in connecting dots and finding patterns
Because of aphantasia
Ken Follett - Buidling a cathedral
Limitation of Skills
We should write the screenplay about the artistry in Neuschwanstein
Neurodiverstiy:
How much life can we orchestrate around that
and cooperate with people
and realize amazing projects
s02e18 - Sharon Hurley Hall is our guest about what would need to happen to be equality the standard & Star Trek
Greetings Friends and welcome to this wonderful conversation with Sharon, Sharon and Alex :)
Learn more about Sharon Hurley Hall here https://sharonhh.com
and on Sharon's and her sister Lisa's Introverts Sisters Podacst
Her bestselling Book - I’m Tired of Racism
And her Sharon’s Anti-Racism Newsletter
How Sharon and Sharon met
Misson Equality - where she is Co-founder for Leadership Education
Oooops - when the apology is different
Every week she learns something new - Like Stimming
diagnosed as autistic a year ago
High masking and low support needs
When certain spaces just feel wrong
Stimming and ability to synthesize information
Figuring out the stage of "is this something that is consistently me?"
The difference when you understand yourself better
it is SO helpful to hear those stories how ADHD and autism manifests in girls and women
because Alex can understand his daughter NOW better when she is 8 years old
to be supportive
There is not enough science and information for and about Black Autistics
Nearly all of the studies are done on white boys
How to learn on Mission Equality
The prussian school system that was exported worldwide
One size fits none
LINK
A.J. Singh's Article about The Colonisation of Neurodiversity And How To Break Free: Part 1
Neurodivergent - Neuroperformative - Neuralembodied
Relabelling - Delabelling
Artists are the Muses for society
The idea of Sharons Newsletter
IF WE COULD SOLVE RACISM - we can solve everything!
What could be the next cool crazy steps?
START USING OUR BRAINS TO THINK UP SOLITIONS
The Mission Equality Black Paper
Star Trek Discovery - All get what they need to do their jobs according to their needs
How do we get to THAT world
Jane McGonigal - Futurist Society - Imaginable
Star Trek Society has overcome the capitalist ecomnic system
Star Trek **is not only about earth people**
it is about **EXPLORATION**
Alex has never thought of star trek in a diverse way
We are wondering how it would be interesting to use the Star Trek narrative much more
because it is exciting, intersting and something a LOT of people like
It's not only about the technology but also about society
Part of being socialized as a woman
Be mindful about new people
Set the bar high enough and some people take themselves out of the equation
how to teach a **NOgotiation** to children
No rudeness - but opinions and clarity
Trust and Decision Making Scaffolding
The school Sharons daughter went to is older than the USA
The pandemic might have influenced the next generation in a very profound and positive way of connective awareness
How COULD the world look like according to Sharon
It's like building a cathedral
WE HAVE TO START
Planting seeds for the future
Maybe go back to societies before colonizers arrived
Get people thinking about solutions and
Would need to happen to be equality the standard wherever you are?
026 - Giving others a Manual for Yourself - Neurodivergents in Relationships
Greetings Friends! This Episode revolves around being a Neurodivergent in relationships. Not only romantic relationships but friendships, work relationships and family business.
Have fun and get in touch with us!
sharon.leigh@poleposition4life.com
and
mail@alex-kahl.de
Load on attention
1 1/2 until Sharon hosts her retreat
Being Neurodivergent in a relationship
Sharon's take on relatoinships
Alex is bit responsible for himself and for his girlfriend's reactions
overselfimportance
Aren't YOU perfect?
What kind of therapy exist for neurodivergent partners?
In Germany Therapy is REALLY not as accepted as in US
What is therapy for?
You just have to be open to discuss it
Dealing with medicine
Not putting others on the defensive
"I am reviewing who i want to be involved with. i am specifically looking for cooperative healthinsurance partners" - change the dynamics for my self made healthcare plan
Our boundaries
Minimize sensory overload
Example: The Wedding Reception - with earplugs
The reason why it took Alex until he was 40 to have kids
Choose from whom you learn from
Caretaker for older pepople with robots
Ali Abdaal - got the Feedback as a medical Student he had to work on his empathy for bein ga Doctor
Future of medical care
lowering the Egos on both side
"how to be a good patient"
Giving others a user manual for yourself
s02e17 Finding Partners in Crime, Cold feet and Organizing with ADHD
Greetings friend! We love to get even more in touch with you! Tell us what you'd like us to talk about or get on the show and talk WITH us!
sharon.leigh@poleposition4life.com
and
mail@alex-kahl.de
How to find a tool that is always interesting
- follow out interest to stay involved and focussed
- rotating in and out with intention
- go with the current and follow the lead of the interest
Does the boat come back around?
It is a bit like surfing
Alex Life or Death Trauma with Boats and all things on the water
Kayaking vs Kanooeing
Finding partners in crime
getting projects out of your head into reality
especially with things you are not good at
exercize buddies
social anxiety
motivtaion
getting out of doing something you love
high sensitive persons HSP and cold exposure
cold feet
hyperfocus experience in getting into topics and rabbit holes
Craiglist, ebay kleinanzeigen classifieds and AirBnB
Curate the Experience
how airbnb came along
The brown M&Ms and Iron Maiden
Neurodivergent people and the "Buddy Sytem"
Be current what you want to care about and focus on
Keepi it moving further ahead
"you know what you NEED to do"
Ask people what they would like to be talked to
Cleaning up a room with a system
"Where do you want that?"
OCD or Ritual?
Organizing in Montessori
The guests coming up the next weeks
025 KITTENS & HEROINE: Shame, Blame and Overwhelm about Play
Hey! We would love to get in touch with you!
sharon.leigh@poleposition4life.com
and
mail@alex-kahl.de
Feel the FUN and do it anyway :)
Do you need to deserve Fun?
How do you define fun?
The differences between the USA and Poker and Russia and Chess
How does Alex define fun? ( nd he is REAAALLLYY struglling with this question)
Being outside of the rules
What was fun for you and the elements of it as a kid?
How Alex built himself a job consisting of things he had fun with as a kid
Infinite games - finite games
poker US with Chess Russia
The gap between then and now
Why don't more people chose THAT
Do we take or make time
What when time is not there
For Sharon thinking things through is as much fun as executing
creativity is important
thinking is enough
Did she specified if time in the day - short term or time in her lifespan?
What has your family culture encoded in you about play fun?
Work ethic
Erst die Arbeit - dann das Vergnügen
Earn the play
Seriousness attached to games - Pen and Paper Roleplaying and Computer Games
Growth mindset vs fixed mindset
Light heartedness
Didn't play that much
My mom always lost
This is how human animals PLAY
Imagination
Curiosity
The pre-us way of entertaining ourselves
storytelling - discussing as a form of accessibility of things - things were SO complicated
Experimenting is play
Is not very valued in the workplace
Everything needs a purpose for Alex
He doesn't need permission
KITTENS!
The judgement-factor
What do we value?
Mimetic behavior - are we wanting
The balance of fun and destruction
**kittens and heroine - BANDNAME**
paying a price for fun
the tradeoff is time - scarcity
Boredom - baseline of entertainment and calm
learn self calm
Engineering as much interesing and fun things into life results in maximum creativity
S02E16 - Answering your Questions! Guess how many we manage to talk about
Greetings friend! In this episode we answer some of your questions!
We love to get even more in touch with you! Tell us what you'd like us to talk about or get on the show and talk WITH us!
sharon.leigh@poleposition4life.com and
mail@alex-kahl.de
Ah and at 41 minutes I left in something for documentation for me. There were two really loud BANGS you can hear in the audio that were the result of two Eurofighters breaking through the soundbarrier in Germany on the 1st of may. And it really scared the shit out of me :) No I am glad to have that recording.
And now let's listen :) Here are our notes from the show:
AUA: Ask us Anything! - it is like AMA but with multiple people :-D
It might be painful for us or for you all
QUESTION 1 - WHAT IS THE DIFFERNCE BETWEEN NEURODIVERSITY AND NEURODIVERGENT
Made up power-construct of what is normal.
When there is NORMAL then there is OTHER
The societal construct is an illusion
Being aware of it and create sidedoors
Labelling oneself vs. being labelled by others
Showing neurotypicals how to be able to value the complexity of neurodivergents
How to Citizen
with Baratunde Thurston - https://www.howtocitizen.com
Kinship and inclusiveness
Ask:
Are you interested in telling me more?
People are scared to ask because then they think the have the obligation to fix something
Shakespeare and Company and people in Wheelchairs
Modern theater as a metaphor for the overhwelm neurotypical feel with neurodivergent people or topics
QUESTION 2:
What's the difference between sensory and emotional sensitivity?
High Sensitve Persons vs people who are victims of there emotions
Baselines - for example for anger
a logical and a very emotional sibling
If you are a sensory type you can turn down a lot of stimulations - turning down EMOTIONAL sensitivy is really hard.
The difference between disappointment and frustration
(Learn to) Know what you need
Giraffe and Wolves Language
Non Violent Communication NVC - Marshall Rosenberg - https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_B._Rosenberg
Council for Exceptional Children
Self Calming
Long term goal is peace - especially in the Montessori Method
Ok.
We have an idea for the next round of questios:
Only 5 minutes for each question :-D
024 - Do Artists feel less shame and how to fortify kids against it
We now: the last 3 episodes were released in between 3 days :) LOTS of Sharon and Alex for you this week - but I wasn't able to edit the episodes earlier. Now we are back on track.
If you would like to reach out to us we love to hear from you!
Ask us questions, tell us your stories or get on the show and let's talk together about Neurodiversity in all its facettes:
sharon.leigh@poleposition4life.com and
mail@alex-kahl.de
And now have fun listening! Here are some of our shownotes what we are talking about in this episode:
Do neurodivergent suffer more or less from Shame?
What are the family implications?
Imposter syndrome
Tv recommendation: Severance - split work and private life
Corporate Cultures
Comparison to other people
What are the difference between coaching and training
Sharon's take:
Emergent learning and client lead exploration
Fascilitation
Corporate Artist
Marcus John Henry Brown again :)
part 1 - The Tangible Corporate Machine https://youtu.be/YKSa_8vt-sk
part 2 - WORK like an artist https://youtu.be/JuBmHHKj6jk
part 3 - Sanctuary https://youtu.be/boW6nwW5LYU
Do Artists feel less shame?
Do they deal with it differently?
or do they become artists because the lack of shame?
Sounds we make in a conversation
Do actors become actors because they want to be someone else?
Alexes 2016 Project: 100 Vlogs a day to 42
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLa1NuzVzxAu1R57qW5bJWQKPmSTYDlPr4
How to teach kids to have a healthy relationship with shame
Being judgmental with yourself leads to shame
Singing
Level of Delightment
Let others do that better
Fortify Kids for shame
Personality type as receptive
Motivation intrinsically or extrinsically
Neuschwanstein as a metaphor for neurodiverse achievement
S02e15 - Sharon shares her struggle, Stress as a Slingshot and Cat Napping Trance
WOOHOO! We surpassed 1000 listeners! (not that numbers matter that much to us - we would also do this just for our pleasure :-D) but we LOVE to know that you are listening to us.
OH! And you can reach out to us if you would like to: sharon.leigh@poleposition4life.com and mail@alex-kahl.de
Ask us questions, give us a hint what you would like us to talk about or come on the show as our guest and let's have a wonderful open and curious conversation about Neurodiversity!
And this is what you can expect from this one:
Our Filter is:
Are we having fun doing that?
WHY we are doing this podcast
one outcome for Alex
Collecting Stones, Rocks, Nuggets
What Sharon is struggling with
Share the pain :-D
Executive Functioning and the way the struggle manifests
How she works through it and with which tools and methods
The voice inside your head - that is puzzling and frustrating
The Evil EXCEL Table for a REALLY cool opportunity of a coaching platform
what makes it so hard for Dyslexic human beings
Stress as a Slingshot
Showing not telling
Self Therapizing
Why does nobody ask:
How do you work best? How would you like to receive this?
Why continue to suffer in a homogenous way of doing things
Support systems for resuce and emergency teams like paramedics and firefighters
You cannot choose colleagues and family members
How does Self-Talk look like
Don't use rewards but making things fun and enjoyable
The brain doesn't notice the difference of being IN a enjoyable situation or thinking about it
Infinite games
Find a good listening-partner
Co-active Coaching
It's like sparring-sessions
Voice in your head
HI REN by REN
Where does the negative voice in your head come from?
Positive Intelligence - The Sage for the positive voice and Judges for the negative side
Remember that a lot of things are just a sprint.
But a lot of sprints result in a far distance, too
Giggle to yourself and be rebellious
What does your internal supportsystem look like through the choppy waters
Salty water and nutrition
Readjust your expectations
Box Breathing while napping
Cat Napping Trance
## Tools
- snacking Cucumbers so Sharon doesnt eat something that throws her Brain Chemicals off
- lowest possible Dose of Ritalin
- The filter. "when I am 85 how would it look like then?"
- Box Breathing while napping
- Salty water and nutrition
- Giggle to yourself and be rebellious
023 - Neil Gaiman, Skunk Smell, MJHB and Neuschwanstein
The last was rough on the sickness-side so the episodes are late - sorry.
And hey! You can get in touch with us via Mail:
sharon.leigh@poleposition4life.com
and
mail@alex-kahl.de :)
Let's go for this almost 2 hour chunk of a wonderful (at least for Sharon and Alex) episode :)
Here are some Shownote:
Neil Gaiman for us at least means:
Lean and smooth writing
There is nothing extra
Sharon models him
Especially when editing
Neil was on Episode 366 of the Tim Ferriss Podacst
Read fiction opens your mind for stepping into possibilities
Get passed those layers of resistance
Workshop as a Fantasy Story - PnP Roleplaying
not without permission
first ask for
Wants, Needs, Fears and Expectations
Keynotes as Theater Performances
THE PASSING https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIj2a9Tlo4g
The Performance a year before - more a Literature Reading than a solo-character play - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTFKjXq77gA
both by:
MJHB - Marcus John Henry Brown - https://www.marcusjohnhenrybrown.com
Agile mindset - Sharon's Keynote for the Female tech conference
Wants vs needs expectations
How does a skunk smell?
And what to do against the smell:
Tomato juice or baking soda
:)
What feels like an adventure
Fountain pen exploration
Sharon's favorite colors for Fountain Pen inks
Indigo
Olive green
Umbra / brown
Change inks / change of thougts
Sharon's self made Souvenirs
animals from Canvas
Leinen Servietten
The Museum Wäschefabrik in Bielefeld stories
younger people who do not know what to do with their lifes
enjoy what they really want to do
awareness practice
a martial arts coach story
tools of perspective
narrow perspective on the bad feelings
self soothing
Sharon's Tips when you visit Castle Neuschwanstein
Imagine LOTS of artists and musicians in the castle
A full blown Multi cultural artistic Bubble
A Neurodivergent, genderfluide place
and a creative safety bubble
Take the route with the horse coach!
S02e14 - Being raised with abundance and not scarcity
The importance of play
book: Awaken your Genius
by Ozan Varol
Podcast Interview on The Human Upgrade
Sharon mowing the lawn
Being raised with abundance and not scarcity
Abundance of what?
Executive functions and ADHD
Giving us time to play
break out the vicious circle
Lifecoach Schook Podcast - abundance of money
Perception of time for children, animals and adults
Alex Hypothesis of Neurodivergents are often a bit more primal
Timeblindness for ADHD
Misspelling as an Alarm that goes of in one's head
Seeing patterns
Sharon's Filter for Who is this for?
being:
- open
- curious
- interested
Ozan:
we learn how to discard what does not serve us
the difference between abundance and overwhelm?
postwar and postcolonization generation
how to make technology accessiable to everybody?
scott pellet
are we using AI-technology for expanding or for gatekeeping?
Strong believes lightly held
022 - Who were your teachers and who are you modelling?
Greetings Friends!
This one from 2022 was very influenced by the Book Wanting from Luke Burgess and the concept of modelling he describes in the book.
Who am I modelling on?
is really hard for Alex to say - because some things he likes to model had to be separated from the person
- like Steve Jobs
- try to model for example thinking models like Reasoning from First Principles
- Stoicism
- Like to Model or be inspired by people who or whose work I like.
Have to differentiate their Life and Character from the WAY they do things or they think
and then see if it works for me
- Casey Neistat
- [[Quelle - Neil Gaiman]]
- Katy Bowman
- Ryan Holiday
- Seth Godin
- Gary Vaynerchuk
- Ali Abdaal
- Tim Ferriss
- James Altucher
Try to pick
What do children model
Book Luke Burgess Wanting
when Alex was a kid he modelled for example my older cousin and people from movies
today:
ALex doesn't model people he knows personally
Sharon:
Freshmanistan
Celebristan
George Carlin / Richard Prior
Die 2 - Tony Curtis - Roger Moore
Modelling Karate Kid
and wishing for Mr Miyagi
Yoda
Dumbledore
They are very caring and protective
You can model yourself but not the circumstances
Do nothing - conversations / workshop
Unhurried conversations
Slow food - slow interaction
Blogging for serendipty in ours
Modelling with intent
Writing. - not thinking about a target person for content - modelling neil gaiman for writing fiction conciously to get into the writing
Using neil gaiman's fountain pen
Art Matters
you are what you risk
The Artist's way
Ann Handley Newsletter
Taking notes in a converstaions
Follow multiple conversations
and people who cannot follow
S02e013 - Do you have neurodivergent ancestors in your families
Alex Kyushu Green Tea Pot
Stories about Ancestry and Neurodivergent Family Members
Alex remebers his uncles
younger uncle - social avoiding
older uncle - artist - psychologist - real estate agent - box promoter - advertiser
always the same family party schedule
PTSD in german grandparents after world war II
the amount of uncertainty in the lifes of our grandparents
180 years old children's stories
- Struwwelpeter - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Struwwelpeter
- Max and Moritz - https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_und_Moritz
- Grimm's Fairy Tales
Sharon's Rodeo Aunt
Being strict in situations you have no control over
and being very loose and relaxed in around horses for example
Advenureousnous in children of Immigrants to America
Feeling home in Europe as an American
Immigrants:
How did people get together back then?
in the village / tribe
How do families are founded today?
Otherness - Wrong to be differnt
Work ethic
Saying something between the lines
implications of living as a neurodivergent in a context of an irish / german ancestorial family in texas
rank and status system in the US
vs
school system in germany
cages made of mars bars
study the family with ancestral glasses
021 - Stories for living in a world that is not build for us
Greetings friends! This one is a great example for all those rabbitholes we manage to go down in one episode :)
Here a some Bullet points about the topics we discuss.
Have fun!
Comedians - Deep Questions without bashing someone
Political parties don't work anymore -
Especially not the large people's parties
The result:
One size fits all solutions like Putin, Trump, Berlusconi, Orban
What we need:
Stories that reach a lot of people
Stories that give people ideas and ways to do things
Stories that give people characters they can identify themselves with
Or
Find characters they can wish / look for in their lifes
For example:
Harry Potter
Where Harry himself is identifiable because he is like a blank page
But
A huuuuuge ensemble of teachers, mentors and concepts he and the reader can identify with
And a lot of characters that work together with him who can offer the same to readers
Sharon's take:
Model after other people
In US: sports stars - celebrities
Wanting by Luke Burgess
Trevor Noah calls people out
gently - but hard truth
some deep thinkers - not all philosophers
see what you've got
and what you are doing with it
unspoken norms
Behavioral Science
How to challenge unspoken norms and be always curious and a little bit unsatisfied
how can this be enhanced?
living in a world that is not build for us
it's not fair - people are chaotic
poeple that are pushing things, enhance them
understand the duality
implementing agile in a company
there is no magic pill
having exponential hope
Silver Lining:
Lots of people coming together
What can we learn from this?
When things are chaotic:
What can you change?
Believe System
sense of identiy and reality
What's important and whats interesting
people in power get to declare what's important
The word repent
changed from greek EVOLVE
to crawl
words twisted by people in power to control people
make discoussions fun, light
and not threatening
invite marginalized and neurodivergent thinking
we are living in a historical phase
how do we handle the pushback of the people in power
we have control about where we put our attention
who we surround ourselves with
who we choose as our models
how many of those five support your dreams and make you seen?
S02E12 - Primal Brains, Portals into Thought Kingdoms And: We have an INTRO!
Yeeees! We ha a musical intro!
Thanks to Faustine and Ajay!
Alex's Lizard brain kicked into fight or flight mode because of a Wildcat on the car radio
That combined with some insights from Our Paleo Diet time
ADHD = the Ancestral-Brain?
as Lactose Intolerant digestion systems are the original ones?
Sedentary Lifestyle vs. Running - Sporty people
Reading and numbers are even only 6000 years old
Neurodivergent people THRIVE in uncertainty
You need a neuronormative persons to build a machine like a plane
but a neurodiverse person to find a really interesting destination to fly to
And now put in the mix
Drugs and candy
The media - not even digital
Coffee
Sharons Family Stories and Cocktails of Neurodivergents
Problem Solving Skills:
"You gotta outthink it"
Ask kids: "What would you do about it?"
Flying is 98% boring and 2% madness
Sharon's Dad once built "The best antitheft device ever" for someone living on a boat
The great thing of digital tools and toys:
Doing fun stuff for YOURSELF!
and then
Share it with the tribe!
The Story of how Berta Benz drove the first car in the world for thefirst time in history!
Pedestrian to Pilot
Neurodiversity Analogy Flighing - USA tries to get you in the Air - Germany tries to keep you on the ground
Montessori Furniture
Prepared Environment
How order can help people with ADHD
Get a notebook and jot down what you need, want try out
what distracts you or pisses you off
or what sounds like a good idea!
Talk about your experiments
Create you environments
Cluttercore
Living with Stories and things that remind us of certain ideas
Things that are like Portals
Modelbuilders
Things like emotional records
Portals into Thought Kingdoms
Airplanes and screeming children
Listen to our beautiful intro in the end again without us talking
020 - Can Neurodiversity be a Superpower?
Greeting friends and sorry that we can't bring you a higher quality of shownotes this week but Alex is soooo tired.
Greta Thunberg
Superpower - neurodiversity
Media and reality TV don't effect neurodivergent
ND are no slave to the things society dishes up
live content like in Clubhouse or Twitch
Armchair experts
brenee brown hard things - unlocking us
new podcast - the one you feed
about breathing - johnny miller (curious humans) - nervous system mastery - 481
mindful surfer - 76 why some surfers are more stoked
joy - passion - self care
being focussed on ONE thing or multiple things at the same time
seeing patterns
behaviroal science passion
connectiveness
picture of god
ND in the workplace
what can we give - what do we need?
motorcycle analogy
what is the dynamics of getting back on track
bring our childhood bullshit into every situation
Martial arts
practicing under stress
LARP in small groups
braking practicing
brenee brown - vulnerability
what does a proactive vulnerability position feels like?
how can you practice vulnerability?
there needs to be awareness
ease into it
storytelling - choose something like a low hanging fruit
S02E11 - The Art of Giving Gifts - especially for Neurodivergents
Giving the gift of the decision
Presents that show you thought about somebody and know them
sending unexpected random stuff in the mail
What brings delight and joy to people
Washing machine manual checklist
Chocolate, Coffee, Tea
A FEW MOMENTS LATER
The Piglet Birthday :-D
Bad gifts make good stories afterwards in life
The hard things about pawn shops, thrift stores and flea markets
The power of stories for next time
today with an extro!
019 - Shame is a shitty motivator
Can neurodivergent people live better with a feeling of being needless in a work environment for example
The 2 meanings of the German word "überflüssig"
People who work in mining and the people in eastern Germany after the german reunion
"My inner life is so rich I dont nessecarily need other people"
Not all neurodivergent people are introvert
Family culture and what you get as a child
Who are you when you do not work?
Extrinsic or intrinsic motivation
Childlike joy of creating
Omagine something for whom this is - blogging for example
Disrupting Flow States
Alex personal knowledge management system
obsidian, bujo, common place book, sketchbook
How to remove shame
Shéhérazade - Saboteurs - Psitive Intelligence PQ program
and the Sage side
S02E10 - Grandma's Sushi, Circular Economy and which role Neurodivergents play in there
Alex Recap of the Barcamp "Circular OWL Economy"
Doughnut Economics - Seven Ways to Think Like a 21st-Century Economist
Kate Raworth
How Neurodivergents can play a key role in a curcular economy
what competences and skills
Sustain a high level of curiosity and inspiration
Diversity around Washingston DC
Making your own Sushi
The Hawaiian Grandmother's rice cooking method
Grandma's cooking methods are Recilience in action
The primal aspect of outside cooking
Downhill Parking
a great sport for neurodivergent people
018 - Important vs Interesting and Rabbit Holes of Cupcakes and One-size-fits-all
Hanna Gadsby - Netflix-Specials
#Book : 10 steps to the Net
Female Comedians
Podcast with Glennon Doyle - Words and Languaging
Interesting vs Important - NDs in the first group
Gaslighting
https://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?id=1564530722&i=1000555544362
Alex Ressource of ideas vs executions
Brevi Manu Store in Bielefeld
Recharge - Hanna Gadsby
A new definition of what's important
Instigate: Fragrance Finder in the Store
HSP are not in the targetgroup
A dillution solution to weaken the smell
Neuroscience and Car Companies
Sense Workshop
planting seeds and instigating conversations
The "I don't care" is really strong in us
Connecting Skills
Specilization is for insects
Ask people / Companie: "What is INTERESTING for you?"
What is the difference between interesting and fascinating?
Benjamin Zander - Work (How to give an A)
https://youtu.be/qTKEBygQic0
Parking Downhill:
How can we make "important" things more easy and interesting to us?
S02e09 Implications of Neurodiversities, Montessori and Metaphors
Greeeetings Friends! We start with a short and graphic ;) description of what is going on on the feline side of Sharon's household Alex shares a slightly dark story.
The Story is about how a Neurodiversity like Aphantasia theoretically could lead to really bad implications.
Especially for rehabilitation in Prison.
How Montessori Teachers are trained in recognizing the neurodiverse skills in Sensitive Periods
We should get a Montessori Teacher on the show.
If you know somebody - please let us know: mail@alex-kahl.de
Montessori in School
Reading with ADHD and reading to each other
and:
Reading to each other
Goodreads Account
Sharon's segway into
**Metaphors**
Writing Prose
Alex got a Typewriter - Olivetti Lettera 32
Book
Wonderworks by Angus Fletcher
https://amzn.to/3FC0pDl
Yes and,
we have SO MANY more opportunities for telling us anecdotes, metaphors, stories
when stories can be annoying
when they are overused
Storytelling Bootcamp
Not training the Tiktok Algorithm
Digital Garden Metaphor
Building Metaphor Tools
how to write out the best metaphors
to keep us interested
Excessorize me drawings :)
https://www.youtube.com/@excessorizeme
Temple Grandin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_Grandin
who has aphantasia and got read a lot of books to you as a child - let us know your experience
aaaaand:
all you engineers and technical people out there:
how are you working with metaphors and stories?
Don't explain something to ALex like he is 5 years old :)
Islands of knowledge
Quantum physics
and
Exotic sicknesses like in HOUSE MD.
imagine an auditorial learner with a blocked ear and forced to learn visually
017 The Indiana Croft and Lara Jones Mindset - or: Treasure Hunt for Mistakes and Resiliency
Greetings Friends! In this Episode of Seasong 01 of FRT we talked about mistakes and resiliency.
How do Kids deal with making mistakes
When does the shame set in instead of curiosity?
What kids can learn from experiments with mudpiles
0The importance of patience and time
Design thinking
Decision making
Tipp / Tool:
play GET LOST
What stresses people out about decisions
Buyers remorse
Alex wristwach experiment - treasure hunting (also applicable to fountain pens, typewriters and much more :)
Training out the mistakes
Alex first class experience
Canned decisions
Making decisions with OCD
Own your anxieties
Training of low profile decision making
Writing it down
Differnet types of dyslexia - I just dont care
Bought a REALLY good spellchecker for Mac
Do what we can do
**yes AND mindset**:
it is SO important to be selfaware
to make GOOD decisions
Indiana Jones Mindset:
It is an adventure and a treasure hunt
the TRAPS are more interesting than the ARTIFACT!
Youtube video about how realistic are treasure movies - an Archaeologist breaks down movie scenes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmKU44ZeuRQ
Neurodiverse people and decision maing
regretting a decision?
When to experiment and when not?
S02E08 - Maintain Friendships as a Neurodivergent esp with ADHD
Greetings Friend!
Yaay! We have a YouTube channel! And we love you to subscribe and share it! :)
https://www.youtube.com/@freerangethinkingpodcast
So you can also SEE us in out cozy recording caves :-D
So we got the inspiration for this episode from a comment on the YouTube Channel called "How to ADHD"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEHD8B33-wc&t=2s
Alex often heard how he changed in the last years especially from his old friends
Friendship making with Neurodiversions
Prinz: Autsmus Pandemie / Ist Autismus jetzt In?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKWOyZr0QUg
Celebrating the labels or dropping the labels
How Technology can making friendshipmaking even easier
The danger of online friendships all around the world
Finding your tribe
Culture of US High School
Change your group of friends
THe Courage to be disliked
How to make / maintain friendships
What do I need in a friendships?
Interestingness :-)
Out of sight out of mind
Life is already hard enough
Don't make it harder for each other as friends
Maybe we are suspicious to Neurotypical people
Social anxiety
Tip: Abstraction
Being social for my daughter
Try PnP Roleplaying
Want to come out and play?
Let's have a coffee?
Sharon's tip on ending social events.
## Links
- YoutTube Comment
- The courage to be disliked https://www.amazon.de/Courage-Be-Disliked-yourself-happiness-ebook/dp/B074TWG8V7/ref=sr_1_1?__mk_de_DE=ÅMÅŽÕÑ&crid=16F0OOEC335VL&keywords=courage+to+be+disliked&qid=1678638620&sprefix=courage+to+be+dislike%2Caps%2C273&sr=8-1
016 - When are you an artist? Alex caught COVID and Creativity
Geetings friends! This episode is from our archives after Alex's COVID Infection in 2022. In isolation he found out that he is an somewhat of an artist and has a lot of questions for sharon about the connections between art and neurodiversity.
Art in Isolation and Neil Gaiman
Bullet Journaling Ryder Carroll Style (Who also has ADHD and his Book about the Bullet Journaling Method)
Doodling in the night with Peter
https://www.peterdraws.com - https://www.youtube.com/@peter_draws
Drawing YouTuber Danny Gregory
https://www.youtube.com/@DannyGregory
Ales got COVID _and_ Creativity
Alex Question to Sharon:
When are you an artist?
We are what we ever claim ourselves to be
I am an astronaut!
Tom Sachs https://www.tomsachs.com
Where your passion lies
selling artwork is not a qualification
Definition of an artist
someone who creates
Geeking out about fountain pens
and
refilling the cartridges with siringes
Are left handed people automatically Neurodivergent?
Neurodivergents are creative experts in hacking the system.
Digitization
Life as art
2 Boxes of journals of Sharon's mom's journal
what's the purpose of keeping Art / Archives / Journals
Maybe: Evolution of our thinking
Justifying yourself for your art and joy
A dance with your self
The best form of meditation:
Being in the now
Are artists always neurodiverse persons?
The invitation to play and make mistakes
The art of people and fascilitation
Moderating workshops
Having Plan A, B and C
The danger of forcing ideas on people
Solution:
Your bag of Tricks
S02E07 - How to think like a connective Futurist - our Wundertüte
We start with Sharon's next level French Pastry Leftover Recipe :)
Followed by a brief recap of Sharon's trip to the NFT Convention in Paris
https://www.nftparis.xyz
Encouraging underwehelm
Alex's conference tips for neurodivergent people
Sharon is going to reengineer the perfect event for neurodiverse poeple
Dissolving the Pitch Persona
Sharon's profession as an Ambience Alchemist
What are you willing to be surprised with?
A project from the NFT convention:
Moonpage for writers - https://www.moonpage.io
What might be the Facebook for the web3?
Being a resource for a specific group other people
that coaches each other
curating the superskills, energies and inspiration
Innovating the languaging and describing
Butterflies and Bumblebees
Alex Pig butchering re:publica Story
Low Tech behind the scenes allows the Tech to flourish
Give yourself selfpermission to make the switch to connect with the intrinsic motivation.
Designing for all
How to think like a connective Futurist
Equality vs Equity - MacGyvering
Tech for the infrastructure of change
Planting the seed of selfvalue in Kids - especially Girls
015 - Mistakes are a bruise - not a tattoo and can turn into resilience
How to see the Silver Lining in mistakes
Being punished for doing it different
Resulting in a self-doubt cycle
Introverts and extroverts
Ego and the protectiveness around us
Do we have a headstart as neurodivergent?
Make micromistakes every day
Mistakes are a bruise - not a tattoo
When Alex's daugther is twenty - what would he wish for her
What resiliency tools would i like her to have
Healing habits that are no longer useful, that are only in the neuronormative world
Give people courage and helping them to explore Neurodiversity and name the discomfort
When WE claim our superpower - we can much more easily accept that OTHERS are some kind of different as well and help them to use THEIR superpower
without having the feeling that we are threatened by them
Get us out of shame and give us pride!
"Can't you just..."
"If you would just do a bit..."
Can you just TRY to do X a bit better"
Find the usefulness in your Neurodiversities
School System should have:
Life as an essay - questions
What did you learn on the job
Why does it matter?
What was good
BUILD A RESILIENCY MODEL!
Mining Sharon's experience and survial tactics
Sitting on a goldmine of information of people who are marginalized
People weren't happy before the pandemic
S02E06 - Where do you work best? Imagine working in Schloss Neuschwanstein :D
Being in a BIG convention
as a human sponge
NFT Event in Paris
How Sharon prepared and organized a side-event to let people come to YOU
One day AFTER the event
App:
We should ask Sascha Lobo to be a guest
How to thrive in loud places and at home
Ignorance is bliss
Libraries & Cafes
Working with Music
When Alex worked in front of a band playing in Red Rock Coffee in Mountain Dew
THE CONNECTION WAS LOST HERE FOR A SHORT TIME :) Just so you wonder
Work in Churches, Tiny Houses, Tree Houses and CASTLES
Imaging working in Schloss Neuschwanstein
Hundreds of years of experience with solitude in monasteries
Talking to interesting strangers and working while travelling
Not being able to talk on the telephone when there are other people in the room
Where do you work best?
Alex: Working in a completely empty room vs. working in chaos and clutter
Object Permance
Needing visual clues
Sharon's Studio back then in the Black Forest
and the Bullerjan Oven there
Be careful when you let introverted people who live very remotely pick the vacation appartment :)
The beautiful Bookstores Video by Max Joseph
Live Housekeeping Session of two Neurodiversive podcast people :-D
014 - MACGYVERGASM as the ultimate hack to how we can make it easier?
Uh! This episode has a hidden intro :-D We started talking right away, dived into different rabbitholes and interluded the inro somewhere on the way :)
Have fun listening and we love to get in contact with you!
Write Sharon on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/sharon-leigh-pp4l/
or Alex via Mail at mail@alex-kahl.de
Here are some topics of this episode:
Why smartphone Alarms are really bad as a Todo-List :)
How to macgyver yourself to do stuff
Find a new word / term für [[Neurodiversity]]
like
Alternatively Hardwired
Level up human tech
Womens tech neteork
How did you come up with alternatively hardwired?
Core personal myth
The snow flake method for Storytelling
by Randy Ingermanson (@SnowflakeGuy)
Listener feedback - you have to turn off the inner judgement
How to have constructive conversations
Did you have any troubles to get through the industrialized school system?
How easy from 1 to 10 is it for you to work in a 9 to 5 job
Sketchnoting - drawing notes
Getting Neurodiversity into schools
The importance of Recipes
and the Experimental Mindset
Martial Arts lesson for the head
Finding your Macguyverism through the catalyst of story
MACGYVERGASM = The Ultimate Hack :)
The Swiss Army Knive
The pride in solving something with unusual means
Robotic competition
leading to
makers faire
tech camp for girls
Mentoring
What would be the first things sharon would build with mentee-kids?
Interestingness:
Flying a drone vs looking through the eye of a drone
Model bashing and Scratchbuilding
Adam Savage build in a day
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uS7A4x31PY
Sharon's Dad building a complete Apollo Lander Spaceship Simulator in the garage
Talking about Artist Tom Sachs who builds hiw own lifesized Space Missions from Plywood
Alex is a tool user not tool builder
How can we fascilitate the integration of people into our worlds
S02E00 - Interlude - No Episode today - we were lost in a rabbithole of Housekeeping ;)
Just a short Greetings friend!
013 - Travelling, Big Cities, Hugging and Hierarchies für Neurodivergents
Greetings Friend! This is on of our first Episodes, so it might sound a bit different than those you are used to already :) It was recorded on Febrauary 7th in 2022.
We talk about things like:
Travelling as a Neurodivergent
Fire house delivery gear
Being born in a multichildren family not diagnosed
Being in a big city like Paris
Do you think differently while travelling in comparison to being at home?
Habits of peole who are not so aware
Neurodivergents, Primal behaviours and hierarchies
What are your models in your Life?
What are the models?
Identifying with characters in stories liek Disneys Raya and the last Dragon
Sometimes it is just not possible for people on the spectrum to walk across the room and hug somebody
S02E05 - Garrison vs Combat Mindset - Neurodiversity in the Military
Greetings friends. Today we have an interesting topic to talk about. We start out with strong habits since Alex managed to publish on his Blog on 100 consecutive days AAAND:
We started our Free Range Thinking YouTube Channel
First w talk about Brandon Sanderson's 10 years Mindset and the AD(H)D instant gratification mindset inspired by this Video by writer and YouTuber Jed Herne
How do we feel and think about the Babysteps?
How doing a LOT of Babysteps in DIFFERENT directions is the Polymath approach
aka
- A Pile of Ants
- A Bee Hive
- The Drunken Master Steps
That can mean: Walking AROUND a goal instead of towards it in a straight line
Sneaky Sharon tells Alex the idea for the Fantasy Book we have to write.
We got some Feedback:
So Alex started with Yoga - The Yoga-App is called Asana Rebel
On a party someone asked Alex:
"I heard about aphantasia on your podcast"
Then finally we takl about
Garrison vs Combat Mindset - An idea by Jocko Willink on the Huberman Labs Podcast (around 19:11)
Working as a Chef with Gordon Ramsay
Or FRT as a Food Truck Daily Reality Show :)
HBO Contacts anyone?
FRT is Consistency and Fun for us
Adventurer / Explorer Mindset
Back to the military :)
The German Military in the 90ies
IBMs method "Capture the Hill"
Premium Cola and Uwe Luebbermann as an example for a democratic company
Hierichal structures are great testing grounds
Autistic Person in the Air Force
24 as a theory as a tool for political influence
Some Neurodiverse humans are good at Red Teaming
and
Lateral thinking
Sidedoors and Backdoors
Red Oceans and Blue Oceans
Book Recommendation: Blue Ocean Strategy
It does not need to be for everybody!
012 - No yawning: 24h Watercooler Conversations with Saskia Listle in the collaborative, neurodiverse Startup Household
THAT Episode-Title is a mouthful! :-D
And heeeere we are again with a new Interview Episode with Saskia Listle. First we have to say a little sorry: We were so engaged in the conversation that we totally overheard Saskia's connection had some hiccups. It's a minor annoyance but it should be possible to follow our conversation.
How did you find out your brain works differently?
How to see when the other one is maxed out
Logical Aphantasia
Learnings from being a Concierge in a High Class Hotel
How to interpret and act on hostility?
Yawning
Is there a way to make yourself interested in things?
How to get back into conversations you are not interested in.
Why is it yawning?
Because you are tired?
Or because it is an inappropriate thing to do in most situations?
Important: knowing yourself and your needs
How to live in a collaborative startup household as a source for serendipity
24h watercooler conversations
Accidents are frowned upon
Dying is forbidden
How much is on the living together side and how much on the collaborating side?
Don't have any unspoken norms!
Get that stuff on the table
- wants
- needs
- fears
- expectations
With HUMOR in it - it can be healthy
Negotiating a personal manual for ourself
The secret smell Saskia can't tolerate in the morning
Here you can find out more about Saskia:
2. Saskia's Podcast: Conversations with my Future Skills
3. Her Newsletter: the grey area
4. And her Website: www.saskia-listle.com
Hybrid humans: is one of Saskia's and Sharon's projects
and PSSST: They offer BEAUTIFUL art on T-Shirts - like NFT-Shirts :)
Book mentioned:
RANGE - David Epstein - Generalism
S02E04 - How important is Laughing in Learning? - especially for neurodiverse people
Greetings friends to Episode 4 of our second season of Free Range Thinking!
You can reach Sharon's via LinkedIn and Alex via Mail.
Curiosity is tied in
Anchor important things with humor
Studies about learning and laughing
Is Memorizing useful or not?
Giving speeches or keynotes to neurotypicals
Hic sunt Dracones!
Coach
Laughing and fun in Martial Arts - differences between traditional martial arts like TaeKwonDo and more western ones like Boxing and Kickboxing
Laughing while Sparring. And when people are VERY serious it gets even funnier
Sharon's Yoga Teacher Voice 😀
The Yes-And Mindset
Where is the point when people lose their open mindset
...There is the death of a thousand papercuts again
Growing up in a very acidic and heavy household with JOY SQAUSHERS
How did parents(couples) like that ever get together??
Who is more joyful - catholics or protestants?
Emerging humor vs studied humor. Using jokes again and again
Shadow of the Gods humor and neurodiverse implications
011 - Being good in a crisis, Hyper Adaption and Universal Design - Pt. 2 with Matthew Bellringer
Here we are again with our second episode with the wonderful Matthew Bellringer going even deeper down some exciting neurodiverse rabbit holes!
You can reach Sharon via LinkedIn
and Alex via mail@alex-kahl.de
Our Homepage is http://free-range-thinking.com/
find short Clips on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@freerangethinkingpodcast
Hyper Adaption
how we interact with the environment so it meets our needs
and how it's Trauma related
but not specifically Neurodivergent related
"if we don't do THIS - bad things will happen"
Hyper Empathy in autistic people
and
how we can manage other peoples level of feelings
Differences between Masking and Hyper Adaption
Hyper Adaption are the tools we use to mask
Hyperlexia
and not saying "sorry i didnt mean that"
Strong Language, Fast Thinking, Shame
being strong but poorly coordinated
ADHDlers are well in a crisis
because we have PRACTICE with crisis :-)
It is a threshold, a transmission point.
Universal Design
Perceviing signals of change earlier
can intimidate Neurotypical people
We need categories and (helpful) words
Preemptive selfjustification
Object Permanence and ADHD
Environmental Design
We can create an environment that suits as or does NOT suit us
How neurodiversive people might be more like chaos (not chaotic) and neurotypical people are more like order
Another kind of asthetic
Framework and flexible design
Explore specifics and
How people can play around with it
Neurodiversity as an organizational benefit
Matthew's languaging around neurodiversities
Links to Matthew
- https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthew-bellringer/
S02E03 - How would you help people to find out what they are naturally good at?
We start with a question about Self awareness and identity but also really practical.
You can reach Sharon via LinkedIn
and Alex via mail@alex-kahl.de
Our Homepage is http://free-range-thinking.com/
find short Clips on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@freerangethinkingpodcast
In German there isn't really a word for Self-Awareness
How would you help people to find out what they are naturally good at?
Intrinsic motivators from our childhood and how it was outcultured through family and culture
Ask: "how do you want to feel?" Not what thing do you want to be or do
Shownotes Glennan Doyle - Doctor Becky Family Dynamics
How to teach kids to trust themselves
Where do you dwell?
How Alex ended upbeing some kind of Detective, somekind of Mac Gyver and some kind of treasure hunter.
Areas of security and privilege
We look for an alternative expression for "Death by a thousand papercuts" but: with a positive connotation
How Alex came up with the idea for this episodes through a Wordpress writing prompt:
Write about your first name, its meaning, its heritage and so on
Identity as a Tag in the clothing
Pronouns and identiy
Gracious Patience :-)
Our new definition for Death by a thousand paper cuts (and ChatGPT helped us with it :-D)
010 Sometimes the right answer IS masking - with Matthew Bellringer 1/2 Creative Innovation Guide and Neurodiversity Advocate who sounds a bit like Neil Gaiman :)
We talk with our third and wonderful guest, Matthew Bellringer, about how to get over the barricades and work with individuals and organizations on complex and wicked problems socially, techy plus human relations.
Matthew's neurodivergent Bingo card: Dyslexia, ADHD and Autism
Matthew changed how Sharon speaks about high functioning and low functioning.
What is Atypical Autism?
When you meet one person with autism you met ONE person with autism.
If you are a problem for others you are likely to be diagnosed, whereas,
If you are a problem for yourself - you are less likely to be diagnosed.
So:
Diagnostic factors for neurodiversion is how we annoy neurotypical people.
If you are part of a neurominority you tend to distrust your internal state because the world tells you it is wrong.
Differences between hard empathy and soft empathy.
Strategies for how you can turn a "you are functioning in a wrong way" around?
How to develop awareness how to integrate and practice sensory awareness into skillful self-expression.
Fear with bureaucratic authorities up until being at gunpoint with the police because of neurodivergent behavior.
Sometimes the right answer IS masking.
The trick is having the choice!
When you study psychology - how much neurodiversity taking place there already?
Aphantasic - but also hyperphantasic in a way.
Having proceptic sense in space - knowing the relative relationship of things in space without knowing how they look.
How neurodiversity works in other pathways, other journeys and the analogy of the Schiebepuzzle = clusters are moving in the brain.
Is it possible to recreate the creativity in adults?
Flexibility in categorizing: Cognitive piles instead of boxes.
We enjoy the puzzle of things that contradict ourselves. It's our kind of sudoku :)
We become experts in our fields of focused interest, like elite athletes or musicians find pleasure in hours of training or practicing.
When we are doing something different and succeed with it - THAT scares people.
We internalize other people's feelings which leads to: I learned to be afraid of it because OTHER PEOPLE are fearful of this
Alex's observation:
Matthew sounds like Neil Gaiman! :)
And: Neverwhere works as a great allegory for unmasking
Our Downhill Parking: Another way of Aesthetic and languaging around universal design
Links to Matthew
- https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthew-bellringer/
S02e02 Tools for Neurodivergent Humans, ChatGPT as a dance partner and the Nann-AI
“If it works for now: Milk the HELL out of it!” (Jesse Driftwood about tools like Journaling)
Alex: The Idea of constant reinventions and evolving is much easier nowadays because with every new tool out there you can build upon the last steps.
Some tools we talked about:
- Zettelkasten
- Obsidian
- Drafts
- Evernote - for the more librarian-like type
- Notion - more for people on the architect-side of knowledge work
- Obsidian - gardeners and those who want Zombie-proofed vaults :)
There is NO MAGIC BULLET that solves all your problems, tasks or whatever for you
Sharon played around with ChatGPT for a proposal and found it is a GREAT tool to start on a blank page with an inspiration
Sharon’s using ChatGPT like a “thinking dance partner”
Alex likes to call ChatGPT Captain obvious :)
It is a bit like the neurotypical answer so that you can ADD the Neurodivergent things to it
Interesting and fun ways to use ChatGPT
Would you rather type with a tool like ChatGPT or talk to it - and let it generate the result in print later?
Voice Dream Reader as a tool that reads books and articles aloud for you almost like an audiobook
Professor Alex's historical view on knowledge-technology like reading :)
How to use tools like ChatGPT constructively against Hate Speech
Links in this Episode
Jesse Driftwood and Levi Allen’s Podcast
zettelkasten.de - english community about and introduction to the digital zettelkasten-method and the digital tool thearchive
antinet.org - english site about the analog / paper based method to the zettelkasten
Antinet Reddit - english Community about the method
Douglas Adams 3 rules of technology
009 - a (meta)-conversation with our Guest Torsten TROJA Jacke - about High Sensitive People, Polymaths, Neurodiversity in Companies and so much more
A (meta)-conversation with our Guest Torsten TROJA Jacke - About High Sensitive People, Polymaths, Neurodiversity in Companies and so much more
Aaaaaand this here is our biggest Experiment - yet!
This whopping 3:15 hours Episode has two parts:
1. The first part is in English - Sharon and Alex talk about a conversation they had with their second guest Torsten Roman Jacke - aka Troja Aktivist42.
2. And since that conversation was in german we appended the German talk after the English episode at 1 hour and 28 minutes.
Please enjoy Sharon butchering the German grammer! ;D
So please tell us if you listened to the German version as well and what you think about our meta-conversation ;)
You can reach Sharon via her Linkedin Profile https://www.linkedin.com/in/sharon-leigh-pp4l/ and Alex via e-mail: mail@alex-kahl.de.
Aaaaand here are the show notes!:
Alex tries to explain the concept of Flachwitze really briefly and unsuccessfully :)
How was it to follow the German conversion with an ADHD Brain?
Key Takeaway Alex: Neuro-Utopia
Experiment was to bring people together
DEI - Diversity Inclusion
Companies are saying: How can we make money from these new-fangled Neuro diversities?
We think: How can we help stop the usual “profiting on the backs” of the maginalized?
Moving the needle on ND Culture in a whole culture
Book Recommendation: Tipping Point by Malcom Gladwell
…….Back to Torsten Roman Jacke 🙂
Avalanche of Change
What does Sharon think about Troja’s differentiation of high sensitive and high sensible people?
Think how powerful it would be if Tom Cruise’s Maverick in Top Gun would be shown as an ADHD or autistic person!
The Problem with Neurotypical stories and storytelling
The town of Bethel inside the city of Bielefeld
Supermarkets in France who turn lights and music down on ND days
Why don’t people analyze themselves?
Alex’s rant about a family member telling his daughter
“The seriousness of life begins now with school”
..and Sharon’s advice :)
S02E01 - ChatGPT, ADHD and the struggle to finish things
Greetings Friend! Heeeere we are again 🙂
This is our second season in 2023 and we explain in the intro why and when there are still a lot of episodes coming from season one :)
In this episode we are talking about which new years resolutions of other people Alex adapted, since he does’nt believe in new year resolutions but silly like to use them as inspiration.
We asked ChatGPT an interesting question:
Why is it so hard for people with ADHD to finish things
And the quality of the answer might surprise you.
Sharon shares her Tips and tricks for finishing things with ADHD
The concept of Paying in Energy (Spoons) https://happiful.com/what-is-the-spoon-theory/
Alex often struggles with finding preparation time
Sharon's mom always said: "You don't need to put your foot on the gas - just take your foot off the brake"
Give yourself Permission to experiment
Sharon would like to experiment with AI generated music
Take the time to show you care
Baselines and Cheat days
If we are not aware of something how can we reduce it, accomplish it, know what we want out of it or what we prefer?
The plan: Writing a MANUAL FOR YOURSELF
Sharon is an Ambience Alchemist - being HSP helps her A LOT
Key for Finishing for Alex: #1 is Reducing Friction
Alex Experience with Micronutrients Bloodanalysis
and
Back on Keto diet, YAY!
How Alex beautified his physical and digital workspace
ChatGPT’s answer to the question:
How do you keep humans from using ChatGPT in a shitty way?
Links we talked about:
Tim Ferriss and Mark Manson
https://tim.blog/2022/12/30/mark-manson/
Steve-O and Casey Neistat and how they work
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdZqvkWaYaE
Sharon's and Saskia's ☕️🍰 Hybrid Humans Café!
https://us02web.zoom.us/j/86275907540