
Guerrilla Pastors
By Josiah Jones

Guerrilla PastorsJul 10, 2022
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[038] Just a Thing
![[037] Spiritual Anthropology - pt. 2 w/ Jim Henderson](https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/staging/podcast_uploaded_episode400/19160566/19160566-1685943066512-036e911ee88c9.jpg)
[037] Spiritual Anthropology - pt. 2 w/ Jim Henderson
Join us as we sit down with Jim Henderson to hear more on his thoughts on how evangelism could be improved why saying "I'd be curious to know" may help when your triggered and what it takes to really be in a mentoring relationship. He shares his life in ministry, his thoughts on how to better disciple and what comes to mind first when asked about those who were raised in Sunday School. Here is more on him:
What he is currently working on: The Three Practices
One of his books: Jim & Casper Go to Church
![[036] Sunday School Vibes ft. Jim Henderson](https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/staging/podcast_uploaded_episode400/19160566/19160566-1685394865501-ffbe45be5930f.jpg)
[036] Sunday School Vibes ft. Jim Henderson
Join us as we sit down with Jim Henderson to discuss everything from the nuances of relationship with an institution, to the Jesus movement. He shares his life in ministry, his thoughts on how to better disciple and what comes to mind first when asked about those who were raised in Sunday School. Here is more on him:
What he is currently working on: The Three Practices
One of his books: Jim & Casper Go to Church
![[035] - Un-Innovative Discipleship](https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/staging/podcast_uploaded_episode400/19160566/19160566-1681757219912-bc0ae1dffebd4.jpg)
[035] - Un-Innovative Discipleship
The Guerrilla Pastors sit down for a roundtable discussion about previous guest Pastor Emily JoAnn Haynes. They discussion discipleship methods growing up, mutually, and where they think ministry practices are headed in the future.
Discipleship As Mutuality (Full Interview) w/ Pastor Emily JoAnn Haynes
Ryan Fasani sits down to start our first of three conversations with folks who are challenging all of our assumptions about discipleship. Todays guest: Pastor Emily JoAnn Haynes. She is the Lead Pastor of Kaleo Nashville, and she shares some profound insights into what a more holistic approach to discipleship looks like.
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[034] - Discipleship as Mutuality ft. Emily JoAnn Haynes
Ryan Fasani sits down to start our first of three conversations with folks who are challenging all of our assumptions about discipleship. Todays guest: Pastor Emily JoAnn Haynes. She is the Lead Pastor of Kaleo Nashville, and she shares some profound insights into what a more holistic approach to discipleship looks like.
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[033] - Naming The Shift
The Guerrilla Pastors have a round table discussion about Kevin Nye's interview while also pointing out that ministry changes, and how churches embody things like the Gospel will as well.
A Just Gospel - Kevin Nye's Full Interview
Kevin Nye helps us have a conversation about what the Gospel has to say about justice and human flourishing He shares his life journey, how the evangelical understanding of the gospel wasn't quite enough for him and how it changed his relationship with Church. He also shares about how his ministry role today is a better reflection of a gospel that is good news for all of life even if it meant stepping away for licensed Pastoral ministry!
Visit our Website: https://guerrillapastors.com/
Buy Kevins Book: Grace Can Lead Us Home
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[032] A Just Gospel ft. Kevin Nye
Kevin Nye helps us have a conversation about what the Gospel has to say about justice and human flourishing He shares his life journey, how the evangelical understanding of the gospel wasn't quite enough for him and how it changed his relationship with Church. He also shares about how his ministry role today is a better reflection of a gospel that is good news for all of life even if it meant stepping away for licensed Pastoral ministry!
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[031] - A Violent Gospel
Ryan, Josiah and Brian discuss everything they heard in Pastor Eric Paul's interview on the Gospel as Reconciliation episode. They discuss how the Gospel can become twisted when it is embodied as a violent pursuit of power and influence. They also discuss the problem of creating "others" amidst a cultural "christian" landscape that seeks division.
Book Recommendation: Mirror To The Church
Website: Guerrilla Pastors
Gospel As Reconciliation - Eric Paul's Full Interview
We talked with Pastor Eric about what broke for him ins his childhood understanding of the Gospel, how it changed not only his relationship with the church but also how he pastors now. We also took a closer look at what his reconciliation ministry that's straddles both the church and "secular" worlds. Enjoy!
Book Recommendation: Mirror To The Church
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[030] Gospel as Reconciliation ft. Pastor Eric Paul
Pastor Eric Paul helps us have a conversation about what the Gospel has to say about restoring relationships. He shares her life journey, how the evangelical understanding of the gospel broke for him and how it changed his understanding of the life of the Church. He also shares about how his ministry role today is a better reflection of a gospel that is good news for all of life!
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[029] Good News For All Life
Josiah, Ryan and Brian respond to Pastor Emilies story. We focus on the quote from Jen Hatmaker's For The Love , why Emily's "Found Space" ministry is such good news, and why we wanted her story to be shared I the first place.
Gospel of Found Space - Emily Taylor's Unedited Interview
We talked with Pastor Emily about what broke for her, how it changed not only her relationship with the church but also how she pastors now. We also took a closer look at what her ministry of found spaces looks like, and how going viral on Twitter has affected her day to day. Our conversation wrapped up with her sharing what kind of church she hopes we leave her children. Enjoy!
Check out more: https://guerrillapastors.com
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[028] Gospel of Found Space ft. Pastor Emily Taylor
Pastor Emily Taylor helps us have a conversation about what the Gospel has to say about suffering. She shares her life journey, how the prosperity gospel broke for her and how it changed her engagement with the church. She also tells us about her ministry of found space and shares why she thinks it's such a significant ministry for our day and age.
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[027] God out there
This year we will be your tour guides as we explore the shift taking place in the world of ministry. The first shift we plane to look at involves the gospel, how it is taught and embodied. The second will focus on discipleship, the third will be accountability and the fourth will focus on the church building itself. Join us as we journey through another year of exploring what ministry looks like when we step out of our comfort zone and live out our callings.
![[026] A Look Part | Part 3 of 3 | Diverse Praxis](https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/production/podcast_uploaded_episode400/19160566/19160566-1672604584771-0f823f08e6287.jpg)
[026] A Look Part | Part 3 of 3 | Diverse Praxis
Join us on this journey as we share why we minister the way that we do, and the discernment process that brought us here. This episode focuses on celebrating a Diverse Praxis.
![[025] A Look Part | Part 2 of 3 | A Benevolent Orthodoxy](https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/production/podcast_uploaded_episode400/19160566/19160566-1672438804987-4a7699e27aad4.jpg)
[025] A Look Part | Part 2 of 3 | A Benevolent Orthodoxy
Join us on this journey as we share why we minister the way that we do, and the discernment process that brought us here. This episode focuses on being known by a Benevolent Orthodoxy.
![[024] A Look Back | Part 1 of 3 | Broad Kingdom Imagination](https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/production/podcast_uploaded_episode400/19160566/19160566-1672261288272-caba091f43f37.jpg)
[024] A Look Back | Part 1 of 3 | Broad Kingdom Imagination
![[023] A Collaborative Spirit](https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/production/podcast_uploaded_episode400/19160566/19160566-1671476846689-1a1367ac28fa1.jpg)
[023] A Collaborative Spirit
In this episode, we share with you one example of how guerrilla ministry is not a threat to a traditional church, but is instead a possible asset. Join us as we share the story of how Pastor Amanda collaborates with a traditional Sunday morning congregation and their pastor, Justin Barksdale.
![[022] Not Your Grandma's Bible Study](https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/production/podcast_uploaded_episode400/19160566/19160566-1670826404001-b5ee5cb8ec912.jpg)
[022] Not Your Grandma's Bible Study
In this episode, we revisit a previous guest, Amanda Montgomery. Amanda chose to step away from the traditional Sunday Morning ministry she was used to in pursuit of something we might call subversive. Join us as we discuss the work she is doing in raising awareness of human trafficking and sexual abuse through a bible study.
Amanda's Previous Episode:
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[021] Foyer Score Keeping | Part 2 |
In this episode we sit down with our third of three Sunday morning focused traditional church pastors. Our guests name is Pastor Mike Ford and our conversation in part two revolves around what he has done to restructure the ministry staff positions in his church, as well as how collaborative he is with other pastors.
Millennial Pastor Podcast episode reference: Jon Wren
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[020] Foyer Score Keeping | Part 1 |
In this episode we sit down with our third of three Sunday morning focused traditional church pastors. Our guests name is Pastor Mike Ford and our conversation in part one revolves around what doesn't work about this "one size fits all" ministry approach so many denominations emphasize.
![[019] Power, Prestige & Influence](https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/production/podcast_uploaded_episode400/19160566/19160566-1666585443893-592cd53fd8eca.jpg)
[019] Power, Prestige & Influence
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[018] Prevenient Subversion | Part 2 |
Part two! In this episode we sit down with our second of three Sunday morning focused traditional church pastors. Our guests name is Pastor David Rodes and our conversation revolved around what church is and how he has pastored over the past five decades.
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[017] Prevenient Subversion | Part 1 |
In this episode we sit down with our second of three Sunday morning focused traditional church pastors. Our guests name is Pastor David Rodes and our conversation revolved around what church is and how he has pastored over the past five decades.
![[016] On Pastoral Education](https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/production/podcast_uploaded_episode400/19160566/19160566-1663640115550-9399fb0e6043c.jpg)
[016] On Pastoral Education
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[015] Coping with Change | Part 2 |
Featuring Pastor Craig Laughlin!
In part two, we discuss the inevitable changes church are currently facing and how they will adapt if they hope to continue existing in the future. Additionally, we spend time imagining how Guerrilla pastors may partner with traditional churches, and how to prepare the next generation of pastors for a church that will look wildly different tomorrow than it does today. This is our first of three separate conversations with successful traditional pastors here in the Pacific Northwest as we endeavor to make good on our claim that we would rather collaborate than "burn it all down."
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[014] Coping with Change | Part 1 |
Featuring Pastor Craig Laughlin!
In this part one episode, we sit down with a traditional Sunday morning pastor to discuss all things Guerrilla Pastor. Namely we discuss the inevitable changes church are currently facing and how they will adapt if they hope to continue existing in the future. This is our first of three separate conversations with successful traditional pastors here in the Pacific Northwest as we endeavor to make good on our claim that we would rather collaborate than "burn it all down."
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[013] Seven Days Of Presence
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[012] Current Financial Paradigm
The Guerrilla Pastors discuss the current limitations of tradition church ministries which operate within institutional norms. They also dream of what could be if we side-stepped tithing as the only way to fund our mission.
Book recommendation: The Revolution Will Not Be Funded
![[011] Compositional Ministry](https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/production/podcast_uploaded_episode400/19160566/19160566-1657467368116-ddb23db299e4e.jpg)
[011] Compositional Ministry
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[010] Part of the Problem
We continue on this episode with sharing examples of pastors doing subversive ministry. This time we interview Amanda Montgomery who is in the midst of writing a book to help churches become advocates for those who have experienced human trafficking and sexual assault. Her work gives insight into how Guerrilla Pastors and traditional churches may mutually benefit from the relationships they have with one another.
Want to know more about Amandas work? Here is her email:
PastorAmandaMontgomery@gmail.com
![[009] Paying Attention](https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/production/podcast_uploaded_episode400/19160566/19160566-1655085794861-c7e7b04a99fc6.jpg)
[009] Paying Attention
We catch up with the rest of Shawn Mattson's story in this episode. From growing up in a church to pastoring it through all kids of cultural changes, we hear his heart as his priorities shifts from building the next megachurch to something a little more subversive.
![[008] Just a Building](https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/production/podcast_uploaded_episode400/19160566/19160566-1653883125357-365e3ce1f46db.jpg)
[008] Just a Building
Regina is back to share her story of wrestling with antiquated ministry models that are limited to what can be done inside of a building. Brian and Ryan respond to her story and share little tidbits of what they think it takes to shift to a Guerrilla Ministry model founded on subversive presence.
Book Recommendation: Canoeing the Mountains
![[007] Subversive Presence](https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/production/podcast_uploaded_episode400/19160566/19160566-1652636493160-4cba8b8be495f.jpg)
[007] Subversive Presence

Update On Release Schedule
Our schedule is changing. We will be releasing episodes every other Sunday starting this week!
![[006] Called to Reject](https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/production/podcast_uploaded_episode400/19160566/19160566-1651028688070-ea3f62eb6a067.jpg)
[006] Called to Reject
We have used the word reject in past episodes, so we thought it pertinent to outline what it was we are specifically rejecting. Join us as we continue on this journey of being Guerrilla Pastors seeking to minister through subversive presence.
Books referenced in this episode:
- Jesus and John Wayne: How White Evangelicals Corrupted a Faith and Fractured a Nation
- Let Your Life Speak: Listening for the Voice of Vocation
This episode is also available as a blog post: http://guerrillapastors.com/2022/04/26/called-to-reject/
![[005] To Come Alive - A Conversation About Vocation](https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/production/podcast_uploaded_episode400/19160566/19160566-1649731053666-8f938caa5fa64.jpg)
[005] To Come Alive - A Conversation About Vocation
On this episode, Ryan, Josiah and Brian discuss the term vocation and what it means for pastoral ministry at large. We also hear from a new pastor named Regina who breaks the "one-size-fits-all" in every possible way. Additionally, stats on age of clergy and ethnic make-up are discussed as well. Those studies can be found here and here. Thank you for listening to the Guerrilla Pastor's Podcast!
Let Your Life Speak by Parker Palmer
This episode is also available as a blog post: http://guerrillapastors.com/2022/04/11/to-come-alive/
![[004] Celebrating a Diverse Praxis](https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/production/podcast_uploaded_episode400/19160566/19160566-1648626561264-ed5a533a11dd4.jpg)
[004] Celebrating a Diverse Praxis
What do you think of when you imagine a Pastor? What is their primary job? If there is a stereotype for pastoring, we don't seem to fit into it. Join us as we discuss the benefits of having more diversity in the ministries offered within the church!
![[003] Being Known for a Benevolent Orthodoxy](https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/production/podcast_uploaded_episode400/19160566/19160566-1647411584846-5c8f57b15a3cd.jpg)
[003] Being Known for a Benevolent Orthodoxy
On this episode we take a hard look at the things the we are known for. The labels "Christian" and "Evangelical" come fully loaded with definitions we explore. Our hope is that we would be known for having a Benevolent Orthodoxy founded on the person of Jesus instead of all the things evangelicals are said to be known for in studies like this:
https://www.prri.org/research/partisan-polarization-dominates-trump-era-findings-from-the-2018-american-values-survey/
This episode is also available as a blog post: http://guerrillapastors.com/2022/03/15/being-known-for-a-benevolent-orthodoxy/
![[002] Cultivating a Broad Kingdom Imagination](https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/production/podcast_uploaded_episode400/19160566/19160566-1646201925306-8aab50dd7a46d.jpg)
[002] Cultivating a Broad Kingdom Imagination
This episode is also available as a blog post with transcript: guerrillapastors.com/2022/03/01/broad-kingdom-imagination/
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[001] What is a Guerrilla Pastor?
Ryan, Josiah and Brian all hail from the great Pacific Northwest. As Pastors, they have had to learn how to adapt to a culture that is post-christian. As a result, their ministry approaches are considered quite unconventional. Listen as they share some of what that looks like as well as why they might give themselves the title of Guerrilla Pastors.
This episode is also available as a blog post: http://guerrillapastors.com/2022/02/16/what-is-a-guerrilla-pastor/

The Guerrilla Pastors - Trailer
Instead of attraction models hinging on cults of personalities we focus on humbler approaches founded on neighborhood presence.
Forsaking church growth metrics we will focus instead on fostering authentic relationships
Join us as we discuss our journey through deconstruction to reconstructing a Guerrilla Pastoral approach that emphasizes a broad kingdom imagination, practices a generous orthodoxy and celebrates a necessarily diverse praxis.
This episode is also available as a blog post: guerrillapastors.com/2021/11/05/gemstones/