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Librarians once stood for intellectual freedom and access to information, but today many prefer to suppress speech and intellectual diversity for the sake of a misguided concept of "social justice". One Davis, California library recently violated the First Amendment when they ejected a group of women discussing male athletes in female sports. Collections and programs are regularly distorted and compromised by ideologue librarians, while those watching in dismay fear to speak. Library consultant and advocate Penny Hummel breaks the silence to tell the Dorx what’s really happening in America’s libraries.

Links:

Penny Hummel on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BeeWeave

FIRE article on Davis library violating First Amendment: https://www.thefire.org/news/california-library-violates-first-amendment-boots-speakers-referring-transgender-women

FIRE’s letter to Yolo County Library: https://www.thefire.org/research-learn/fire-letter-yolo-county-library-august-24-2023

ALA Webinar, "Transgender People In Libraries": https://elearning.ala.org/local/catalog/view/product.php?productid=1005

Does Sex Matter? panel at the Urbana Free Library, 2019: https://blog.ninapaley.com/2019/03/26/q-and-a-from-the-does-sex-matter-panel/

I Am Jazz: https://socialjusticebooks.org/i-am-jazz/

My Body Is Me by Rachel Rooney: https://www.transgendertrend.com/product/my-body-is-me/

Irreversible Damage by Abigail Shrier: https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/irreversible-damage-abigail-shrier/1133754701

Gender Queer by Maia Kobabe: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Gender-Queer-A-Memoir/Maia-Kobabe/9781549304002

“NO TERFS”: https://www.news-gazette.com/opinion/columns/jim-dey-terf-battle-in-urbana-averted/article_cdf7ecd4-2e0d-5759-84b7-fbbe653de2a5.html

Shannon Thrace is a "transwidow" and author of the must-read novel Eighteen Months: A Memoir of a Marriage Lost to Gender Identity. She joins handmaiden pick-me tranny-lover Nina for a women’s-only talk about AUTOGYNEPHILIA, the cause célèbre currently ripping apart the TERFosphere. Is this about safeguarding and holding women’s boundaries, or is it tribal signaling? Why is it OK for David Bowie to crossdress, but not Phil Illy? Should there be different crossdressing rules for men and women? Who gets to make those rules? Where do we draw our lines? Did Nina wade into a morass or a cesspool? These are questions without definitive answers, except one: Where is Corinna? Answer: at work today, so Nina recorded and edited this episode alone.

Links:

Shannon Thrace’s essay, Genspect and AGPgate: https://shannonthrace.substack.com/p/genspect-and-agpgate

Nina’s Art Coop "NO TERFS" sign complaint: https://www.news-gazette.com/opinion/columns/jim-dey-terf-battle-in-urbana-averted/article_cdf7ecd4-2e0d-5759-84b7-fbbe653de2a5.html

Genspect Denver conference: https://genspect.org/the-bigger-picture-continues-denver-colorado/

Phil Illy: https://substack.com/profile/109324793-phil-illy

This Jungian Life: Aaron Balick - Why Does Social Media Weaponize Our Reactions? https://thisjungianlife.com/aaron_balick/

Laura Becker/Funk God: https://www.funkgod.com/

After last weeks “Ask an Anti-Zionist,” the Dorx return to Ask a Zionist, Rabbi Jonathan Greenberg. What is a Zionist? Answer: “A person who believes that the Jews have a right to self-determination and self-protection in the ancient land of Israel,” which he says is the historical, original, biblical, literal Jewish homeland. Greenberg does not suffer discomfort with power and moral complexity. He reminds us every conceivable solution to “one of the most intractable conflicts on earth” has already been argued, and there is nothing new under the sun. “In every generation, they rise against us to destroy us.” Greenberg says Jews should arm up; culture matters; the rules of war are outdated; nobody actually cares about the Palestinians; media coverage is biased; history tells you what, philosophy tells you why; and Israel is not a colonial project, it’s a coming home. Nina asks: How will this end? Answer: ???

Links:

Jonathan Greenberg on Twitter: https://twitter.com/JGreenbergSez

Jewish Voice for Peace: https://www.jewishvoiceforpeace.org/

If Not Now: https://www.ifnotnowmovement.org/

Not In Our Name: https://notinourname.net/

Anti-Defamation League: https://www.adl.org/

Peter Beinart: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Beinart

Ze’ev Jabotinsky: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ze%27ev_Jabotinsky

Jewish students barricaded in Cooper Union library: https://nypost.com/2023/10/25/news/cooper-union-barricades-jewish-students-inside-library/

Pro-Palestinian projections on George Washington University library: https://wjla.com/news/local/accusations-of-anti-semitism-on-george-washington-university-campus-after-projection-of-pro-palestinian-messages-student-group-students-for-justice-in-palestine-jewish-israel-hamas-war-dmv-washington-dc-community

The Zionist Idea by Arthur Hertzberg: https://jps.org/books/zionist-idea/

A History of Israel by Howard Sachar: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/159513/a-history-of-israel-by-howard-m-sachar/

Medinat Weimar (for a Jewish state in Germany): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVGeR4r5hbk&ab_channel=amhaaretz

Samantha Woll, Detroit rabbi stabbed: https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2023/10/21/samantha-woll-dead-isaac-agree-downtown-detroit-synagogue-president/71271616007/

Illinois lawyer’s antisemitic rant: https://twitter.com/StopAntisemites/status/1715216523915071978

Anna Baltzer: http://www.annainthemiddleeast.com/

Illinois Muslim boy stabbed: https://apnews.com/article/muslim-boy-killed-chicago-landlord-will-county-5135dea218326d6e639a996564d9369e

AIPAC: https://www.aipac.org/

Seder-Masochism (Nina’s animated feature film about Jewish identity): https://sedermasochism.com/download/

Longtime activist and author Bev Jackson is a founding member of the UK Gay Liberation Front and, more recently, co-founder of the Lesbian Gay Bisexual Alliance (LGBA), one the the only organizations standing for homosexual (as opposed to “queer”) rights and the only UK charity supporting truly lesbian events. We discuss the corruption of Wikipedia, the astronomical increase of transing girls, the “born that way” narrative, zealous American politicians, outsourcing opinions, patience for the poorly-informed, boundaries vs inclusivity, pedophilia, Bad Law, medical scandals, and Tunnock’s Teacakes. Plus, Corrrrrri changes his name, and Nina writes a scathing Letter to the Editor. Who’s the queerest of them all? Listen and find out!

Links:

Bev on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BevJacksonAuth

Bev’s email: bev.jackson@lgballiance.org.uk

LGBA website: https://lgballiance.org.uk

Tribunal Transcript (Mermaids vs Charity Commission & LGBA): https://lgballiance.org.uk/tribunal-transcript/

LGBA conference: https://lgballiance.org.uk/tribunal-transcript/

John Boyne apologizes to Graham Linehan: https://twitter.com/JohnBoyneBooks/status/1698830513077694477

This Land Is Mine (short animation): https://youtu.be/8tIdCsMufIY?si=ttwMH8SPCxpM0OI2

The Exodus Song: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theme_of_Exodus

Exodus (movie): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exodus_(1960_film)

Seder-Masochism (movie): https://sedermasochism.com/download/

Nina’s Twitter thread about Jews vs Zionists: https://twitter.com/ninapaley/status/1711371708190330934

A Nasty Piece of Work: The Art of Dissident Feminists is the world’s first and only “TERF” Art show, featuring 14 female artists, all of whom have been canceled due to gender ideology. Its curator and organizer is J. Berns, an activist, mother, art lover, and upstanding badass. She talks about how her gallery was vandalized the day after the show’s successful opening; the difficulties of living in the Bay Area if you hold gender critical views; TERF money; ways women are not allowed their own language; how terrorists increasingly dictate speech; and hot pink blood. Wait until the end for her descriptions of the amazing works in the show, which runs until October 15 in San Francisco, and could even come to a city near you if you help make it happen!

Links:

A Nasty Piece of Work: The Art of Dissident Feminists https://www.accelerationspace.org/

Vandalism of the art show, posted by the vandals themselves: https://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2023/09/17/18858974.php

Women Are Real: https://womenarereal.org/

On Twitter: https://twitter.com/WomenAreReals

WDI: https://www.womensdeclaration.com/en/

Roisin Murphy - Hit Parade: https://roisinmurphy.bandcamp.com/album/hit-parade

Indiegogo cancels Nina: https://blog.ninapaley.com/2023/01/06/indiegogo-cancels-agents-of-h-a-g/

Our Grace Lavery episode: https://www.heterodorx.com/podcast/episode-26-trano-a-trano-with-grace-lavery/

Our Kikomi episode: https://www.heterodorx.com/podcast/episode-55-biotrans-with-kikomi/

Genspect’s conference in Denver: https://genspect.org/the-bigger-picture-continues-denver-colorado/

Back when this podcast had only 4 listeners, Debbie Hillman of foodfarmsdemocracy.net was one of them. Debbie passed away in March, after which Corinna discovered a 2014 tribute video by her daughter. An interesting character in her own right, Saya Hillman joins the Dorx to talk about her mom, our moms, moms in general, dads, families, estrangement, growing up weird, adulting, fun, entrepreneurship, cleaning, pocket knives, making friends as an adult, silver linings, excess backups, old age, death, and living a fearless life. Learn about a fascinating daughter, a fascinating mother, and, most importantly, that dishwashers have filters that need to be cleaned. 

Links:

Saya Hillman reads “If Only My Name Was Alexis”: https://youtu.be/oxijkP9tpAU?si=zHOFkad9yeVABcxS

Mac and Cheese Productions: https://macncheeseproductions.com/

Debbie Hillman's memorial page: https://macncheeseproductions.com/debbie-hillman/

Debbie Hillman’s twitter account: https://twitter.com/DLHillman

Seder-Masochism (featuring Nina’s Dad): https://sedermasochism.com/download/

Does Sex Matter? Gender Identity vs Material Reality, our 2019 panel talk Debbie attended (we think): https://youtu.be/RguD61siLB8?si=4LpIn_zENirTxb49

Corinna and Nina answer your important questions, such as: what is a feminist? Should we be cheerful instead of angry? Who cuts our hair? Boxers or briefs? Is “cis” a slur? We also discuss the TERF-Tranny spectrum; our origins in a state fair livestock exhibit; the social benefits of taboos; Republicans' ability to eff up a sure thing; how social contagions are a force of nature; The Law of Conservation of Evil; iatrogenic infantilization; masculinized women; how 2nd-Wave Feminism is like broccoli; and Corinna’s plans to start microdosing testosterone. It’s truly a broad-ranging conversation, as we cover more territory than a costumed llama!

Links:

Anger is like Rocket Fuel: https://mimiandeunice.com/2010/07/29/rocket-fuel/

Maybe One by Bill McKibben: https://billmckibben.com/maybe-one.html

Twitter poll: Makeup or Hijab?: https://twitter.com/ninapaley/status/1691882332871885285

Beauty and Misogyny by Sheila Jeffreys: https://www.feministes-radicales.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Jeffreys_Beauty_and_Misogyny_Harmful_Cultural_Practices_in_the_West__Women_and_Psychology_1.pdf

Prolific writer, researcher, thinker, and close personal friend of the Dorx Lisa Selin Davis is an old-school Leftist who developed an “exciting new interest in reality,” subsequently putting her on the wrong side of many a Brooklyn dinner party. We ask: What does it mean to be on the Left? What is Feminism? Do Gender Critics engage in “hugboxing"? How does one remain curious and empathetic while talking to ignorant a-holes? Do Conservative women give fewer effs? Is Corinna wearing “woman-pit”? What is Lisa’s next book about? It’s a party in the rabbit hole as 3 disagreeable friends agree on just about everything.

Links:

Housewife: https://lisaselindavis.substack.com/p/its-time-to-pre-order-my-new-book

Skokie (film): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skokie_(film)

BROADview: https://lisaselindavis.substack.com/

Lisa on Twitter: https://twitter.com/LisaSelinDavis

GENDER WARS Playing Cards: https://store.ninapaley.com/product/gender-wars-playing-cards/

The delightful and accomplished Dr Heather Brunskell-Evans joins the Dorx on short notice, first to talk about her work with Women’s Declaration International and Transgender Trend, then about her exhaustion with all manner of ideological nonsense, be it from trans rights activists or her “sisters” on the left. Purity spirals, tribal instincts, toxic agreeableness, Munchausen’s mums, disappointments, growing up female, Satan, misogyny, losing faith, and more keep her dancing between fed-up boredom and fierce determination. She may be Tired, but she will keep Explaining Reality until the F***wits listen up!

*TERF: Tired of Explaining Reality to F***wits

Links:

Dr. Heather Brunskell-Evans: https://www.transgendertrend.com/dr-heather-brunskell-evans/

Women’s Declaration International: https://www.womensdeclaration.com/en/about/

Transgender Trend: https://www.transgendertrend.com/

Keira Bell case: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_v_Tavistock

Pride flags on UK hospitals: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/06/05/giant-pride-flag-painted-on-hospital-criticised/

Apocalypse Animated: https://apocalypseanimated.com/

In 1993 John Gilmore famously said, "The Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it.” To learn why that’s no longer true, listen to Josh Moon enumerate “the amount of things that have broken that people in the industry assumed could never break,” as activists with personal vendettas and political agendas relentlessly employ every possible strategy to silence his small but notorious gossip site Kiwi Farms. From Cloudflare to Hurricane Electric, ISPs, data centers, and payment processors, literally anything up and down the Border Gateway Protocol has been targeted to shut down the 'Farms. With ISIS, the KKK, Stormfront, neo-nazis, and child porn all continuing to enjoy online services, who expected “the gossip site that makes fun of troons" to be the straw to break the Internet's backbone? And why have the individuals and organizations who once stood against censorship lost their own?

Links:

Brave browser: https://brave.com/

Tor browser: https://www.torproject.org/download/

Keffals: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keffals

The World Should Not Need Kiwi Farms by Corinna Cohn: https://corinnacohn.substack.com/p/the-world-should-not-need-kiwi-farms

Liz Fong Jones calls Corinna a “Kiwi Farms operative”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Np9erdnM4l8&t=3074s&ab_channel=LizFong-Jones

Border Gateway Protocol (BGP): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_Gateway_Protocol

Electronic Frontier Foundation: https://www.eff.org/

Internet Archive: https://archive.org/

Copyright’s origins in censorship: https://questioncopyright.org/promise

FIRE: https://www.thefire.org/

The Dorx do a quick review of the 2023 ICONS International Women's Sports Summit in Denver, among whose speakers were many former Heterodorx guests like Carole Hooven, Colin Wright, Helen Joyce, Kara Dansky, and Kim Jones; plus Suzanne Vierling, Dina McMillan, Riley Gaines, Jennifer Sey, and countless other badass women, including tall otherworldly young athletes, elder Olympic champions, lawyers, writers, policy-makers, conservatives, liberals, and spectral beings. There were even some men, like Jon Pike⁠, ⁠Ross Tucker⁠, Corinna, and at least one cute security guy. The theme was WINNING, and we're going to, just like Nina wins an argument with Corinna about whether the elite professional-managerial class constitutes an "orthodoxy." It is what's best in life!

ICONS website (currently featuring videos from the 3-day Summit): https://www.iconswomen.com/

GENDER WARS Playing Cards: https://store.ninapaley.com/product/gender-wars-playing-cards/

N.W.H.: F*ck the Security Guards: https://youtu.be/6LjW6j56ZgI

Elaine Miller at the Edinburgh Fringe: https://twitter.com/GussieGrips/status/1684893485902565378

Donate via Nina’s blog (upper right hand corner): https://blog.ninapaley.com/

Julia Mason is a practicing pediatrician, a Fellow of the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP), and a founding member of the Society for Evidence Based Gender Medicine (SEGM). A politically homeless, feline-affirming, bleeding-heart liberal who wants to pause pediatric transition, Mason raises grave concerns about the “affirmation model” which locks in adolescent identities at a time kids cycle through them as part of growing up. We learn the AAP actively suppresses internal dissent while profiting from corporate endorsements; that there are no empirical criteria for identifying which kids are “actually” trans; that small children believe whatever adults - especially their parents - tell them; and that Corinna is drinking a lot of electrolytes. 

Links:

Wheaton Labs: https://wheaton-labs.com/

Julia Mason on Twitter: https://twitter.com/JuliaMasonMD1

SEGM, the Society for Evidence Based Gender Medicine https://segm.org/

Reconsidering Informed Consent: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35300570/

The Myth of “Reliable Research”: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36593754/

Gender doctor praises Leelah Alcorn “boldly” committing suicide: https://www.thedistancemag.com/p/leader-of-alabama-gender-clinic-praises

Genspect: https://genspect.org/

Gender A Wider Lens podcast: https://gender-a-wider-lens.captivate.fm/

The Milgram Experiment: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment

Rona Duwe, German feminist: https://substack.com/@ronaduwe

Gender Wars cards (are they appropriate in the classroom?): https://www.heterodorx.com/gender-wars-cards/

FAIR Educators Alliance: https://www.fairforall.org/fair-educators-alliance/

Angus Fox: https://genspect.org/author/angusfox/

FIRE: https://www.thefire.org/

WDI: https://www.womensdeclaration.com/en/

Returning sexy guest Ben Appel recently wrote about genderism and other political ideologies infiltrating Alcoholics Anonymous, despite its 10th Tradition prohibiting alignment with outside issues. But what is a “Tradition” anyway? Ben and Nina possibly violate the 11th one (“always maintain personal anonymity at the level of press, radio, and films”) in an attempt to describe the wacky, brilliant, not-really-a-cult-except-sometimes, life-changing, spiritual, occasionally smelly world of 12-Step recovery programs. Corinna learns the difference between AA and Al-Anon; Nina wishes she believed in god and says “irrational problems demand irrational solutions”; and Ben talks about compulsive praying and his upcoming book, “Cis White Gay,” along with a ton of other interesting topics. Another great episode! Keep coming back! 

Links:

Ben Appel: https://www.benappelwrites.com/writing

How Alcoholics Anonymous Lost Its Way by Ben Appel: https://unherd.com/2023/05/how-alcoholics-anonymous-lost-its-way/

Our Wilfred Reilly episode: https://www.heterodorx.com/podcast/episode-82-hoaxes-wokeses-and-other-folkses-with-wilfred-reilly/

AA’s 12 Traditions: https://www.aa.org/the-twelve-traditions

Synanon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synanon

Alcoholics Anonymous: https://www.aa.org/

Al-Anon: https://al-anon.org/

The Serenity Prayer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serenity_Prayer

Nina’s Adventures book: https://store.ninapaley.com/product/ninas-adventures-book/

Kim Jones is a co-founder of ICONS, the International Council On WomeN’s Sports. A former college athlete whose daughter had to compete against Lia Thomas, Jones intelligently and passionately articulates why “sports are the public arena of the difference of the sexes,” and how gaslighting  girls in the spotlight sends a harrowing message to all women. We also discuss the inversion of the word “inclusion,” the slipperiness of the word “gender,” men undressing next to strange girls, the importance of speaking your mind, Corinna's fanciful claims of doing Nina's yard work, Title IX, women who advocate male dominance, and more.

ICONS Women’s Sports Summit, Denver July 21-23 (the Dorx will be there!): https://www.iconswomen.com/2023-conference-registration/

GENDER WARS cards (temporarily out of stock, but on backorder): https://store.ninapaley.com/product/gender-wars-playing-cards/

India Willoughby's review: https://spinster.xyz/@ninapaley/posts/AVYdzaeaDtSPIcc07U

Mary Harrington: https://reactionaryfeminist.com/feminism-against-progress/

Corinna provoking people on Twitter: https://twitter.com/heterodorx/status/1664351092535173120

https://twitter.com/heterodorx/status/1665547115236405248

https://twitter.com/heterodorx/status/1665549900258443265

Vice Director of Genspect Alasdair Gunn (nee Angus Fox) rejoins the Dorx to recap Killarney’s Bigger Picture conference, compare European and US approaches to gender issues, and update us on his health. Soon Corinna is pushing exogenous estrogen on Nina, who just wants to settle down with a female housemate despite being recently named a Scarlet Whore. Other major themes include menopause, burly Irish asphalt workers, tarot cards, and repeated threats by Corinna to edit all this out. It’s the quality content our firefighting, tree-felling, cooking and cleaning listeners expect!

Links:

Shawn Thierry’s Texas speech: https://twitter.com/lukemaciastx/status/1657213918048034817

IMPRO by Keith Johnstone: https://archive.org/details/pdfy-KIkLrSPi_3lzPl5v

GENDER WARS Playing Cards which can totally also be used for Tarot-style divination: https://store.ninapaley.com/product/gender-wars-playing-cards/

Most autogynephiles — men sexually aroused by impersonating, embodying, or identifying as women — are so deeply ashamed of their condition they deny its existence. Phil Illy is a rare exception whose acceptance and curiosity led him to research and write a book on the topic. We discuss attraction to others (“allosexuality”) vs attraction to embodied states or oneself (“autosexuality”); the narcissism of falling in love; “meta-sexuality”; gender-based vs. sex-based attraction; autism as identity; pillow queens; Corinna’s boobs; Bronies; paranormal romance novels; pseudobisexuality; and autozoophilic trans turtles. After all our somewhat explicit talk about sex, we conclude it continues to be real, people continue to be weird, and everyone needs to CHILL OUT. 

Links:

Autoheterosexuality by Phil Illy:  autohetbook.com

Phil Illy's Substack: phililly.substack.com

Phil on Twitter: @autogynephilic

For our celebratory 100th episode, podcasting role-models Katie Herzog and Jesse Singal join the Dorx as special guest audio engineers. Except Corinna’s been so busy testifying for “anti-trans" bills around the country, and Nina’s been so sick with COVID, that we only made it to episode 98. Nonetheless, we cover gender wars, egregious reporting, backlashes, Drag Queen story hours, Trump Derangement Syndrome, the Minority Stress Model, men in women’s sports, persecution complexes, Twitter, Substack, pizzas, Katie’s goddess-like spouse, Nina’s “butch energy,” safety pins, and pronouns, learning that in spite of a few irreconcilable differences, all agree that “they” is a terrible choice for individuals.

Links:

Katie & Jesse's podcast: https://www.blockedandreported.org/

Riley Gaines at San Francisco State University: https://www.thefire.org/news/protestors-chased-down-riley-gaines-after-her-campus-speech-sfsu-says-its-proud-events

Posie Parker in New Zealand: https://www.feministcurrent.com/2023/03/25/kellie-jay-keen-is-attacked-and-mobbed-by-trans-activists-in-new-zealand/

Nina’s GiveSendGo: https://www.givesendgo.com/apocalypseanimated

From anti-social teenage lesbian drop-out, to Coast Guardsman, to seminarian, to licensed clinical social worker, ⁠Zander Keig⁠ has led a singular life. Like Corinna, Zander is an old-school transsexual, but the culture has changed since the (not actually) halcyon tranny days of yore. Recently, Zander went from being WPATH Educator of the Year to becoming the subject of an ethics complaint and an underhanded cancel campaign — for committing the unforgivable sin of advising the Gender Dysphoria Alliance. Keig’s equanimity stands out even more than the fascinating, insightful, and occasionally harrowing stories on this episode. 

Links:

Zander Keig’s website: https://www.zanderkeig.net/

Gender Dysphoria Alliance: https://www.genderdysphoriaalliance.com/

Foundation Against Intolerance and Racism: https://www.fairforall.org/

Mild-mannered therapist-in-training James Esses was expelled from his university after expressing concerns about child safeguarding in relation to gender transition. Now he's fighting for his day in court. Focusing on "positive change in society," he fills in the Dorx on the whole story, and discusses the therapy industry, speaking out, cancel culture’s reign of terror, a variety of delusions, and the importance of acknowledging Reality for mental health. 

Links:

James Esses’s Legal crowdfunder: https://www.crowdjustice.com/case/expelled-university-free-speech/

James Esses on Twitter: https://twitter.com/JamesEsses

Helen Joyce is a journalist, former writer and editor at The Economist, and author of TRANS: When Ideology Meets Reality. She joins the Dorx to discuss what is and is not Worthy Of Respect In A Democratic Society, the importance of free speech to free thought, the stupefaction of political polarization, differences between TERF Island and the USA, Left-wing “discipline,” splits in the gender-critical movement, and more. Nina is such a drooling fangirl she barely flinches when her work is compared to painted stones and crocheted vulvas, and Corinna asks refreshing questions.

Links:

Website: https://www.thehelenjoyce.com/

Twitter @HJoyceGender

TRANS: When Ideology Meets Reality: https://www.thehelenjoyce.com/trans-news-and-reviews/

Sex Matters: https://sex-matters.org/

Compliance Comix: https://www.heterodorx.com/compliancecomix/

Fetishized, minimized, and co-opted: Is it an identity? A “gotcha”? A political football? Complete Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome (CAIS) is in fact a serious medical condition, vanishingly rare yet disproportionately discussed by everyone with an agenda in the gender wars. Jo, a.k.a. CAIS Files, is a Child and Adolescent Psychiatrist, adoptive mother, and adult with CAIS, who eloquently sets the record straight on what Disorders of Sexual Development (DSDs) are and are not. Just like sex is a material reality rather than a feeling in a fantasist's head, so are the numerous conditions (mis)labeled "intersex". Enjoy the edifying wisdom and common sense of this long-overdue, much-anticipated episode.

Links:

CAIS files on Twitter: https://twitter.com/CAIS_Files

The Dreger-Wright debate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2aKX8Mcz9Q&ab_channel=CorinnaCohn

Carole Hooven: http://www.carolehooven.com/

TERF-Tranny Alliance: https://www.heterodorx.com/terftrannyalliance/

DSD Families: https://www.dsdfamilies.org/charity

Differently Normal blog: https://differently-normal.com/blog-2/

Corinna has been VERY BUSY speaking out against medically harming children or in favor of genocide (depending), including delivering this excellent 3-minute testimony supporting Indiana SB 480. Nina grapples with the Kafkaesque nightmare that is Indiegogo. Corinna encounters some activists from Planned Parenthood giving free advice on “blocking that legal stuff.” We’ve missed posting podcasts regularly; between all the travel, testifying, day job (Corinna) and weeping in despair (Nina), we just haven’t had time. So please enjoy this unedited quickie we recorded this morning.

Links:

Corinna’s testimony for Indiana SB 480: https://youtu.be/wYhMejWA_zg

FOX59 news coverage of that same session: https://youtu.be/P_nP-bVyfMQ

How to Speak, How to Listen by Mortimer J. Adler: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/How-to-Speak-How-to-Listen/Mortimer-J-Adler/9780684846477

Compliance Comix: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/compliance-comix/

Agents of H.A.G.: https://www.heterodorx.com/hag/

The Witch Trials of JK Rowling: https://www.thefp.com/p/the-witch-trials-of-jk-rowling

Canada, which National Lampoon once called “The Retarded Giant on Your Doorstep,” is just as affectionately known today as “Tranada.” It’s also the home of lifelong leftist, environmentalist, activist, prolific writer, and shape-shifting space lizard Stuart Parker. A former child-star-activist à la Greta Thunberg, Parker tells all about Canadian eugenics programs, Wallace Wong, “supportive housing”, the post-political era, Big Pharma, liberal nationalism, multi-culturalism, TERF blacklists, Morgane Oger, the role of mascot enforcer, total social immunity, getting canceled, and more. The Dorx are frequently shocked, and not just because Parker’s sarcasm surpasses Corinna’s.

Links:

Stuart Parker on Twitter: https://twitter.com/stuartlosaltos

Parker's website: http://stuartparker.ca/

Los Altos Institute: https://www.losaltos.ca/

Nina is both lazy and unafraid to look bad, as she fails to prepare a proper intro for magnificent political philosopher, author, and Quillette columnist Dr. Holly Lawford-Smith. Those same qualities are why Nina doesn’t wear makeup; Lawford-Smith shares some of her own. Even token tranny Corinna has some no-makeup tips, such as waiting 5-7 years between applications. Then Lawford-Smith answers, and asks, some profound questions: Is makeup attractive, or a signal of compliance? What counts as philosophy? Is long hair radfem? What is Gender Critical Feminism? Does bullshit emanate from the Anglosphere, or from France? Is buying sex wrong? Prepare to be dazzled by beauty, intelligence, and humor that are anything but skin-deep.

Links:

https://hollylawford-smith.org/

https://quillette.com/author/holly-lawford-smith/

https://twitter.com/aytchellesse

Books: https://hollylawford-smith.org/books/

The Radical Notion: https://theradicalnotion.org/

Nina’s twitter makeup polls: https://twitter.com/ninapaley/status/1613321903846068225

and https://twitter.com/ninapaley/status/1613540702356471808

Elaine Miller is a pelvic physiotherapist, award-winning comedic performer, women’s rights campaigner, and now Edinburgh council candidate. She recounts how she became the infamous “Holyrood Flasher,” scandalized her children, and taught much of the ignorant world what a merkin is. She also discusses why male people cannot have periods, “gender difference,” comedy, fetishes, organ transplants, incontinence, the Bristol Stool Chart, bumholes, and much more. All in a lovely Scottish accent that melts the hearts of Amerkins like Corinna, who has NO REGRETS, and Nina, who reveals some very personal lady issues and clenches her Kegels through the entire interview.

Links:

Elaine’s web site: gussetgrippers.co.uk

Twitter: https://twitter.com/GussieGrips

The Naked Athena of Portland: https://www.artdealerstreet.com/single-post/2020/08/21/the-vulnerable-warrior-of-portland

Dave Chappelle’s show The Closer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Closer_(2021_film)

Bristol stool chart: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol_stool_scale

Tampax sponsors Dylan Mulvaney: https://www.newsweek.com/boycott-tampax-trends-company-slammed-trans-sponsors-1761556

Merkin: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merkin

'Flashing' feminist Elaine Miller to stand in Edinburgh council by-election: https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/politics/flashing-feminist-elaine-miller-stand-29057411

Evolutionary biologist, former Evergreen college professor, Dark Horse podcaster, and author Heather Heying shares her thoughts on academia. We learn Heying is the daughter of a university math professor, like Nina. Corinna then nudges the two faculty spawn into a lively argument about just how much women submit to men, and whether social conditioning or biology are the cause. Plus, utopianism and its discontents, social stratification, consuming junk, environmental issues, and why life is too short to eat lousy chocolate.

Links:

Heather Heying’s web site: https://www.heatherheying.com/

Heying’s Substack: https://naturalselections.substack.com/

Heying on Twitter: https://twitter.com/HeatherEHeying

Dark Horse Podcast: https://www.bretweinstein.net/darkhorse-podcast

A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century: https://www.huntergatherersguide.com/

On resigning from the Board of the University of Austin: https://naturalselections.substack.com/p/uatxresignation

Why do debates about trans rights always get sucked into arguments about Disorders of Sexual Development? Philosophy professor Alex Byrne and Biology professor Carole Hooven join the Dorx for some “Monday night quarterbacking” on the Dreger-Wright debate. But first, Carole and Nina compare notes on hysterectomies, oopherctomies, and menopause. Then it’s on to why “bullshit” shouldn’t replace facts even to be “nice,” what “sex is real” actually means, the red herring of DSDs, how the humanities suffer from “science envy,” luxury beliefs, why allies ruin everything, and more. Nina ends it on a happy note: the impending extinction of everything.

Links:

Maggie Chapman replaces facts with bullshit: https://twitter.com/HolyroodDaily/status/1605929587220676609

Carole Hooven tweets about C/AIS (over)representation in sports: https://twitter.com/hoovlet/status/1604137509805428736

Alex Byrne: https://philosophy.mit.edu/byrne/

Carole Hooven: http://www.carolehooven.com/

The Dreger-Wright Debate: https://youtu.be/K2aKX8Mcz9Q

After raising 150% of her goal on IndieGoGo, the crowdfunding platform cancels Nina’s first comic book in 30 years, Agents of H.A.G.. Money, funders, orders — all gone, 2 days after the 2-week campaign ended. Meanwhile, Corinna observes fissures between Gender Critical factions widening into increasingly insurmountable chasms. The future looks dystopian, and so does the present!

This very non-representative episode of Heterodorx is the recording of the formal, timed debate between Alice Dreger and Colin Wright, which was held live Monday December 7 2022. They set out to resolve the claim, “Biological sex is real, immutable, and binary.” Did they succeed? Listen and decide for yourself! 

Dreger-Wright debate on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2aKX8Mcz9Q&ab_channel=CorinnaCohn

After some small talk about the holidays, trans YouTuber, activist, and social media bon vivant Katy Montgomerie cheerfully and calmly explains how Gender Criticals aren’t feminist, believe in sexed souls, advocate for the elimination of trans people, and want to ruin Katy’s life. Unlike the sucking-up-to-the-oppressor trans friends of JK Rowling — whom Katy claims is openly hostile to trans people — Katy is NOT “one of the good ones.” Katy is, however, a good sport, and clearly elucidates a set of moral and policy positions. Good or bad? Listen and decide for yourself!

Links:

Katy Montgomerie on Twitter: https://twitter.com/KatyMontgomerie

website: https://katymontgomerie.com/

Adult Human Weirdo T-shirts: https://nina-paley-shirts.creator-spring.com/listing/adult-human-weirdo

T: The Story of Testosterone by Carole Hooven: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250236067/tthestoryoftestosteronethehormonethatdominatesanddividesus

The Dreger-Wright debate (December 12 2022): https://youtu.be/K2aKX8Mcz9Q

Michael (first name only) talks about Gays Against Groomers, a non-profit non-partisan gay rights organization opposing the sexualization, indoctrination, and medicalization of children. What is grooming? What’s the difference between “gay” and LGBTQ++? Is there porn in school libraries? Michael didn’t grow up in the same world as Corinna or Nina (who is as old as his mom), and we discover a generation gap in experience and activism. But despite our differences, there’s one thing we all agree on: “eunuchs are hot.”

Gays Against Groomers: https://www.gaysagainstgroomers.com/

GAG on Twitter: https://twitter.com/againstgrmrs

Gender Care Consumer Advocacy Network: https://www.gccan.org/

Julie Bindel Heterodorx episode: https://www.heterodorx.com/podcast/episode-81-julie-bindel-defines-feminism/

Image of adults protecting children from a rainbow: https://www.gaysagainstgroomers.com/event-details/protect-the-children-rally

After Corinna takes a confusing online class, the Dorx ask author, professor, podcaster, and Marxist Ben Burgis what the heck “Transgender Marxism” is. Also: what do Conservatives conserve? Is “transgender” a class? What is social reproduction, and who does it? Does Ben draw a distinction between gender and sex? Why have Nina’s efforts to genocide Corinna via misgendering continually failed? Is “hate speech” Free Speech? Can every cook govern? This episode is a class in itself.

Ben Burgis’s Give Them An Argument podcast, Slavoj Žižek episode - https://youtu.be/Xnmz_aLrEUM

Ben Burgis at Jacobin magazine - https://jacobin.com/author/ben-burgis

Ben Burgis at Daily Beast - https://www.thedailybeast.com/author/ben-burgis

Ben Burgis on Twitter - https://twitter.com/BenBurgis

Transgender Marxism - https://www.plutobooks.com/9780745341668/transgender-marxism/

Heterodorx Helen Dale episode - https://www.heterodorx.com/podcast/episode-80-the-we-hate-hate-speech-speech-with-helen-dale/

Heterodorx Wilfred Reilly episode - https://www.heterodorx.com/podcast/episode-82-hoaxes-wokeses-and-other-folkses-with-wilfred-reilly/

Heterodorx Buck Angel episode - https://www.heterodorx.com/podcast/episode-77-gimme-that-old-time-transsexualism-with-buck-angel/

Wilfred Reilly on Twitter: https://twitter.com/wil_da_beast630

on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Wilfred-Reilly/e/B07RBL17FQ%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share

on fecebook: https://www.facebook.com/WilfredReilly630

Media Matters hit piece on Corinna: https://www.mediamatters.org/twitter/recent-witness-anti-trans-legislative-hearings-claims-trans-people-did-not-even-exist-1939

What is a feminist? Journalist, author, and English badass Julie Bindel has opinions, informed by decades of work in the Women’s Liberation movement. We discuss women who aren’t feminists being mistaken for feminists, women denouncing feminism, far-right incursions into feminism, male protectionism, Political Lesbianism, kicking men in the nuts, separatism, homosexuality, butch-femme nonsense, bodyguards, Patriarchy, incels, and fake leftist men. Bindel passionately, intelligently, and articulately voices a Feminist position that will satisfy supporters, while supplying substance and heft for detractors to push against.

Julie Bindel’s Substack: https://juliebindel.substack.com/

Julie Bindel on Twitter: https://twitter.com/bindelj

Andrea Dworkin - Right Wing Women: https://www.feministes-radicales.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Andrea-DWORKIN-Right-Wing-Women-The-Politics-of-Domesticated-Females-1983.pdf

The Lesbian Heresy by Sheila Jeffreys: https://www.spinifexpress.com.au/backlist/p/9781875559176

FILIA: https://www.filia.org.uk/

Classical Liberal, celebrated author, retired lawyer, and Smart Person Helen Dale regales the Dorx with a history of "hate speech", citing Marbury vs. Madison, the Allport Scale, John Stuart Mill, entrenched judicial review, decolonization and anti-colonization movements, the pernicious influence of the Soviet Union, and COMMIE NONSENSE. Nina interrupts her a few times to discuss the incitement of mobs, Kellie-Jay Keene’s US tour, and why Dale thinks feminism is “mad.” After a short vape break, Dale returns to Liberal Toryism, freedom of association, Hadrian’s Rescript, loos in developing countries, “non-crime hate incidents” in the UK, the marketplace of ideas, and why “lobbyists are bonkers”. Can the Law save humanity from itself? Listen up and pay attention, because Dale’s citations fly faster than the pages of a thrown encyclopedia.

A Mere Sampling of Links:

Helen Dale on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Helen-Dale/e/B001K82V2G%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share

Helen Dale on Twitter: https://twitter.com/_helendale

Law & Liberty: https://lawliberty.org/author/helen-dale/

Louise Perry: https://www.louisemperry.co.uk/

The Secret of Our Success: https://press.princeton.edu/books/paperback/9780691178431/the-secret-of-our-success

International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights: https://www.ohchr.org/en/instruments-mechanisms/instruments/international-covenant-civil-and-political-rights

FIRE, the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression: https://www.thefire.org/

Simon Edge’s most recent novel, The End of the World is Flat, lampoons the corruption and inversion of Stonewall and other LGB organizations from the safe distance of satire. While Edge was evolving from slightly bitter young journalist, to married and socially-integrated author, the institutions that once represented him were losing their hearts, souls, minds, and constituencies. We discuss the failures of journalism, the benefits of gaining perspective with age, the power of Low-Income Privilege, and Owen Jones, who is as quintessentially British as tea and crumpets but less appetizing. Plus, Corinna sings our beloved intro jingle, and Nina pledges to cling to corrosive resentments rather than forgive. It’s not really the end of the world, it just feels like it sometimes.

The End of the World is Flat: https://www.amazon.com/End-World-Flat-Simon-Edge/dp/178563240X

Simon Edge books on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Simon-Edge/e/B001HPX6PI/ref=dp_byline_cont_pop_book_1

Simon Edge on Twitter: https://twitter.com/simonjedge

This Land is Mine - Nina’s most popular animation: https://vimeo.com/50531435

Nina’s Menopause t-shirt: https://nina-paley-shirts.creator-spring.com/listing/menopause-is-badass

In this impromptu, unedited, and super-fresh episode, Corinna discusses the Spencer Pridefest, “the largest rural LGBTQ+ gathering in the state of Indiana.” How do ever-changing flags and identities impact the sticker-and-trinket-seller economy? Should kids be having sex? Do gay people exist any more? What the hell happened since the 1990’s? See Corinna's photos at heterodorx.com.

Buck Angel on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BuckAngel

Buck Angel’s youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/BuckAngelOfficial/

Nina’s menopause shirt: https://nina-paley-shirts.creator-spring.com/listing/menopause-is-badass

Our Kate Bornstein episode: https://www.heterodorx.com/podcast/episode-72-auntie-kate-uncle-nina-and-mx-cohn-with-kate-bornstein/

Gays Against Groomers: https://www.gaysagainstgroomers.com/

Sincerity displaces sarcasm for a few minutes as Corinna offers a rare glimpse into the anguish underlying his advocacy, starting with a profound dream and its possible interpretations. Nina has a list of Gender Bullshit News; the Dorx focus on WPATH’s new “standards of care,” which functionally eliminate patient rights. Corinna rethinks his staunch Libertarian position on legislation, as banning “gender affirming” medical procedures on minors may be the only option left. Nina despairs at the Internet Archive's removal of Kiwi Farms from its Wayback Machine, formerly the last safeguard against Orwellian online memory-holing. Plus, a tense and worthwhile argument over eunuchs. It all sounds like a bad dream, but it’s only 2022.

Links:

Corinna’s Kiwi Farms article: https://corinnacohn.substack.com/p/the-world-should-not-need-kiwi-farms

Velocipe Cycladia: https://blog.ninapaley.com/2020/08/08/exorcise-bike-part-2-velocipe-cycladia/

Church of the Subgenius: http://www.subgenius.com/

The Ink Black Heart: https://robert-galbraith.com/?stories=the-ink-black-heart

The Internet Archive: https://archive.org/

Stephanie Winn is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist, advocate for victims of gender medicine, and podcaster. She shares some tales of her grad school training, including a cultish “T-group” retreat, before moving on to trauma resilience, appropriate boundaries, and the savior complex of some clinicians. But first, we warn listeners to mask up, socially distance, and vaccinate their audio equipment, because Corinna has COVID! Between being oppressed by a TERFy co-host, exhausted by trans-everything, and contracting the plague, it’s no wonder Corinna needs advice. Can Winn deliver? Listen and find out!

Links:

You Must Be Some Kind of Therapist: https://www.sometherapist.com/

Mental health for detransitioners twitter thread: https://twitter.com/sometherapist/status/1560735125326815233

GCCAN: https://www.gccan.org/

Genspect - Beyond Transition: https://genspect.org/beyond/

Derrick Jensen episode: https://www.heterodorx.com/blog/episode-31-goin-tribal/

https://www.benappelwrites.com/

twitter: https://twitter.com/benappel

substack: https://substack.com/profile/12679522-ben-appel

Ben Appel on victimhood: https://www.queermajority.com/essays-all/victimhood-is-one-helluva-drug

The New Homophobia: https://www.newsweek.com/new-homophobia-opinion-1698969

Julie Bindel interviews Ben Appel: https://juliebindel.substack.com/p/an-interview-with-ben-appel#details

Quillette: https://quillette.com/2021/07/08/as-a-gay-child-in-a-christian-cult-i-was-taught-to-hate-myself-then-i-joined-the-church-of-social-justice-and-nothing-changed/

Corinna’s Washington Post piece: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/04/11/i-was-too-young-to-decide-about-transgender-surgery-at-nineteen/

The End of the World is Flat by Simon Edge: https://www.amazon.com/End-World-Flat-Simon-Edge/dp/178563240X

Neither trans-exclusionary nor a radical feminist, philosopher and author Kathleen Stock has been branded a TERF and harassed out of her university, while simultaneously gaining recognition as one of world's top thinkers. That's because she thinks deeply and critically, and tells the truth. Whether it’s Corinna’s comparison of transgenderism with transracialism, or Nina’s assertion that right-on lefty dudes are misogynists, Stock has heard, and thought about, it all — and has eloquent responses. We discuss immersion in legal and cultural fictions, “bullshit theories of womanhood,” DARVO (Deny, Attack, Reverse Victim & Offender), child transition, online disembodiment, pronouns, “massive edifice(s) of bullshit,” women being terrible to women, and cowardice, especially in academia. 

Links:

Kathleen Stock’s Substack: https://kathleenstock.substack.com/

Kathleen Stock’s website: https://kathleenstock.com/

Kathleen Stock on Twitter: https://twitter.com/Docstockk

Material Girls: https://www.hachette.co.uk/titles/kathleen-stock/material-girls/9780349726595/

Kate Bornstein episode: https://www.heterodorx.com/podcast/episode-72-auntie-kate-uncle-nina-and-mx-cohn-with-kate-bornstein/

Lyell Asher episode: https://www.heterodorx.com/podcast/episode-67-an-education-on-education-with-dr-lyell-asher/

University of Austin: https://www.uaustin.org/

Author and gender theorist Kate Bornstein identifies as a “tranny” and “dyke,” and is male according to Nina, whom he identifies as a “sex fundamentalist” and “butch lesbian.” We disagree in better-than-good, possibly-excellent faith, about pronouns, respect, sex, gender, and atheism, while agreeing about keeping males out of female prisons, the trap of identity, and how to behave in church. A fun conversation with plenty for listeners to disagree with, too!

Kate Bornstein: http://katebornstein.com/

Anne Fausto-Sterling, Sexologist: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_Fausto-Sterling

A response to Anne-Fausto-Sterling (among many): https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12476264/

Corinna and Nina spontaneously sing the Heterodorx jingle, hoping British listeners will not hear “ducks” in “heterodox.” There’s plenty of exciting news from TERF Island, but nothing tops the American story of a transsexual podcaster pursuing Dave Chappelle in his hometown of Yellow Springs, Ohio. Nina pitches a commercially viable rom-com, Corinna fishes for a live show invitation, and both recall an unusually festive event from 2019. Did we mention the new Heterodorx T-shirt? Yes we did, including the touching story of its origin.

Adult Human Weirdo shirts: https://nina-paley-shirts.creator-spring.com/listing/adult-human-weirdo

Art Coop job application: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSePtw0qALB2z-X18ucfAeb241pZjaXMzEsm4Dx1egX3B-zN-A/viewform

Russian-American animator Lev Polyakov hosts and produces the Break The Rules podcast, which brings together extremely diverse viewpoints from the online testosteronosphere. A thoughtful, well-spoken, and generous conversationalist, Lev can talk to anyone - even the Dorx. After discussing such serious topics as the war in Ukraine, America’s military-industrial-propaganda complex, and “counter-semitism,” Lev moves on to the Estrogen experience (Corinna’s and Nina’s differ greatly), alchemy, waking dreams, trippy psychedelic meditation stuff, his vibrating Third Eye, generating 3-D movies inside his head, Torah, and the New York animation scene of 2004. Break the rules and pass the bong*!

*None of us actually use weed, as far as I know.

Break the Rules: breaktherules.tv

patreon.com/breaktherules

twitter.com/breakth3rules

Led Zepplin - Black Dog: https://youtu.be/fl6s1x9j4QQ

Seder-Masochism: https://sedermasochism.com/download/

Exodus 33: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus%2033%3A17-23&version=KJV

Newgrounds: https://www.newgrounds.com/

Where do you go when you get banned by fecebook and twitter - or, conversely, when you think mainstream social media isn’t censoring enough? To the Fediverse, where free-speech refugees and would-be Orwellian dictators form ever-more polarized online communities. Returning Heterodork Alex Gleason, who created the popular Soapbox platform, relates some recent behind-the-scenes Fedi drama. The same tribal politics skewing mainstream social media, guide Fedi developers as well - but with less money! This makes the Fediverse the worst social media system, except for all the others. (Which are so much worse you really should join the Fedi.)

Episode 8: Guest Heterodork Alex Gleason: https://www.heterodorx.com/podcast/episode-8-guest-heterodork-alex-gleason/

Pleroma Is Dead: https://blog.alexgleason.me/pleroma-is-dead/

The first and best woman-centered social media: spinster.xyz

Nina’s terrorist Fedi site: neenster.org

Alex's Fedi instance: gleasonator.com

Soapbox: https://soapbox.pub/

Join the Fediverse: https://jointhefedi.com/