By Tony Gapastione
Holy CannoliDec 26, 2022
68: What the heck, God?! Really?? A Christmas Wonder.
I like to think Mary and Joseph (and Jesus) had as many frustrations, doubts and wonderings about what the heck God was doing, as we do.
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67: Jay Bakker
Jay wrote a book and Jay is an open book.
He shares his life and thoughts through his church, REVOLUTION GATHERING and his socials.
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65: What makes ministry?
Thanks to to the REV Meg Biddle for this conversation.
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Tony dissects and RELATES to Jonathon Larson of Tick...Tick...Boom!
63: TONY RETURNS after a long hiatus with SAINT VINCENT
I'm back. Been a minute. Two years of minutes.
Why am I back? Take a listen.
And then watch SAINT VINCENT on Netflix (or watch first then listen).
Let me know what you think.
My Church I refer to in Marin County:
62: 33 Days FILM (The true story of pastor Roger Huang)
INVEST IN THE FILM
61: Bible talk # 3 (Confessions of a pastor Part 8)
Make sure you listen to episodes 56 and 59 before you listen to this one so you are all caught up as Tony talks about his thoughts on the Bible.
60: Miscarriages, infertility and adoption with MFT Cathie Quillet
Miscarriages, infertility, adoption and being a mixed race family in the South with MFT Cathie Quillet.
Cathie is a long time friend of ours who now lives in Nashville, Tennessee and works as a licensed Marriage & Family Therapist. In her work she specializes in serving women ( and their partners ) to help them through the stress of infertility. Her and her husband adopted two boys from Ethiopia. In this podcast she shares transparently about the pain of miscarriages, infertility, raising a child with special needs and the beauty and challenge of becoming a mixed race family in the South.
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59: Confessions of a pastor (Part 7): More Bible talk + Covid-19 Virus thoughts
Tony is back.
58: Love + Cupcakes in Las Vegas with Joy Hoover
wife + mama
founder + ceo | @cupcakegirlsorg @localforall
podcast | @humanswhogiveashit
ambassador | @lululemon
social impact coach 👇🏼 joyhoover.com
57: Confessions of a WOMAN Pastor: Jenny Warner of Valley Pres in Portola Valley
Find her + her blog here: https://www.jennywarner.com/
56: Confessions of a Pastor (Part 5): Is everything in the Bible really intended by God?
Tony shares a message with his church, THE QUEST in Novato California.
Is the Bible all divinely inspired by God or is it human interpretation.
55: Confessions of a Pastor (part 4) with Jelani Greenidge on race + multi-ethnic worship music
Forgiveness is NOT a weapon.
Tony's college friend Jelani Greenidge talks about his article on the now viral hug + forgiveness of Brandt Jean + Amber Guyger.
Connect with Jelani here:
Listen to his music here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqXTZG-tlWY
Read his article here:
54: Confessions of a Pastor (Part 3): Sunday School + Communion
Tony + Wendy COMMUNE on the present issues.
53: Confessions of a Pastor (Part 2)
It's midnight and Wendy wanted to record an episode, a podcast on pastoral confessions. Uh.... Why not? What could go wrong?
Well, Tony could talk about his BUTT CHEEKS (again) and could offend people with his opinions on SPEAKING IN TONGUES,. So there's that.
Oh, well. It's real, opinionated and the stories of just one pastor. But he still loves Jesus, the Bible and the church (no matter what anyone says!).
We can't speak for everyone's experience but hope in some way you can relate... and laugh.
Anyone have any church stories that you want to share? Looking for all sorts of topics: Money, relationships, Sunday School, sermons, awkward interactions. If that's you...give us an email firstname.lastname@example.org
Never forget God loves you. He...She does! (And we know that might offend someone, but...just think about it.
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52: Confessions of a Pastor (Part 1)
Let's do this. Tony starts off a new series of conversations, or CONFESSIONS: sharing real issues, anecdotes, doubts, questions and frustrations about being a pastor.
Submit your ideas, questions, and stories.
51: Treasures in Darkness: Angie Ibarra of Generations United
Angie Ibarra shares her story of finding her purpose for empathy and compassion in the midst of pain. Feeling alone and voiceless growing up in a large family---she longed for a mentor and a place she could dream and learn...but had a difficult time finding one.
Now, her story is one that gives voice to those who don't---recognizing that every child deserves love, value and the ability to learn and imagine. In 2007 she created her organization GENERATIONS UNITED, in the same year of the biggest devastation of her life. Take a listen to her story and see how you might relate.
Want to VOLUNTEER? It only takes ONE HOUR a week to impact a child.
50: Capital OK: brOKen.
Tony talks about his teeth, broken systems and why we need to keep seeking JUSTICE.
49: Tony has a new QUEST
Big news! I (Tony) took a part time job serving as a pastor with my friend MATT NIGHTINGALE.
Two days a week I'll be driving up north over the Golden Gate Bridge to serve as a co-pastor.
This is Matt's spiritual direction community:
48: Unity costs us.
Are we willing to sacrifice what we might lose?
Message by Tony Gapastione from Trinity Presbyterian Church in San Carlos. June 30th, 2019.
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46: FILM FEST FACTS + nothing but the FACTS
Tony MANSPLAINS the BRAVEMAKER film fest.
May 31st, June 1-2, 2019!
45: Life + Death Pontificating with Tony
It's been a wild week to think about.
44: Sympathy for Judas, Thanos and that annoying jerk in your life
This one is all me. Solo. (Tony).
I just saw AVENGERS End Game last night. No spoilers here but I did have my own personal encounter with someone who seemed to be my personal Thanos for thirty minutes. Why did I let a jerk get the best of me? How can I learn to let go of the toxicity spewed out by others?
These words that came from the cross, from a humble man being murdered.
"Father forgive them for they do not know what they are doing."
Villainizing people is easy but not letting them affect you is not.
But even villains are complex humans with fears and pains. And most times it's not about you.
43: Judy Peterson is walking with Jesus and loving like Jesus
Judy Peterson is a force to be reckoned with. She's a storyteller, pastor and a deep thinker who practices what she preaches until the point of no return...And it's safe to say she'd go even farther than whatever point was drawn in the sand if it meant walking with Jesus where he walked. She's not your typical pastor (and neither was Jesus). She shares her deep pains, great joys and love of God and scripture in this podcast!
Judy gave me (Tony) permission to share her personal email with Holy Cannoli listeners who wanted to be in touch with her (in kindness). If you'd like to contact her I'm happy to hear you out email@example.com.
From the MISSION FRIENDS FOR INCLUSION WEBSITE:
If you would like to communicate with Judy, Better Together will be fielding those messages and sharing them with her.
Judy was the campus pastor of my alma mater North Park University from 2006-2018 and shares her journey on this podcast and in detail here:
42: Church Clarity with Sarah Ngu + George Mekhail
Clarity is reasonable and ambiguity is harmful.
That is the mission of Sarah Ngu + George Mekhail. To cause less harm for women and the LGBTQ+ community. They promote honesty and transparent communications for churches on their websites and more!
Follow them on Instagram!
Connection with Sarah
and George on Twitter
41: Garrett Brown: Scripture & Stanford
Garrett Brown was a church planter, pastor on staff for a church for years and now serves some of the most elite young thinkers in the world.
A discussion on scripture and Stanford.
Here's the group he leads: Christian Union
Connect with him on Twitter.
40: Becoming ANTI-Racist with Andre Henry
Anti-racist educator, writer, and activist ANDRE HENRY joins the HOLY CANNOLI PODCAST.
Find him on Instagram:
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39: What needs to end? or die?
Questions we hate to ask--but--What needs to end? or die? Who needs to be fired?
Dr. Henry Cloud's book NECESSARY ENDINGS inspired this 10 minute podcast reflection by Tony.
38: Corinne Oestreich is back (& she meet the Back Street Boys)
Corinne (from Ep 27) is back to give us an update about her recent surrogacy experience, her response to Nathan Phillips and the Washington DC right to life protest, as well as her experience at the Grammys! We had to get her back on since she's packing up and moving out of California! Enjoy this interview!
Up & Coming with BraveMaker
Monday March 25th, 2019
Bias film & Discussion at Century 20 in Redwood City Ca
Take the ILLICIT BIAS ASSESSMENT
Tuesday April 30th --Fox Theater
Criminal Justice Reform film & discussion (more info TBA) with our new corporate sponsor TBA!
Tuesday May 13th
Fight Cancer with Film
37: The Naked Pastor: Graffiti Artist on the Walls of Religion
David Hayward is a living example of someone embracing the sacred and strange of life. Living in New Brunswick Canada, David is a self proclaimed graffiti artist (on the walls of religion) who goes by "The Naked Pastor." You'll have to listen to find out why. David uses his own stories of pastoring a church in Canada to connect with thousands world-wide online with his personal experience of reconstructing his faith. After leaving his official church pastor position he became self-employed (after some difficult years of learning) and he now curates online communities and enjoys provocative and interactive discussions. His art and cartoons say it all.
Follow him here:
UPCOMING MARCH 2019 EVENTS.
Sunday March 10th Sexuality & Scripture discussion
Monday 3/25 7pm BIAS FILM screening and discussion
36: Creating art & culture: special chat with Matt Nightingale
We normally put out our episodes on Monday but since our friend Matt is in town for the Friday 2/22/19 BraveMaker event we recorded a conversation on creating art, church (of course) and culture.
35: The Color of Life with Cara Meredith
Author, speaker, wife, & mom.
Cara's illuminating memoir paints a beautiful path from white privilege toward racial healing, from ignorance toward seeing the image of God in everyone she meets.
Her book on Amazon is here.
34: Tony's reflections on leadership
After a week of being at Sundance for a week, Tony's feeling a bit nostalgic and reflective around what it means to be a leader (and maybe a bit introspective on the last nine months).
33: Lamonte found (himself in) his biological family
From the snowy mountains of Park City, Utah, home of the Sundance Film Festival comes the story of Lamonte White. Knowing he had been adopted from six months old, Lamonte was curious to learn more about this biological family in his adult life.
So he filed some official paperwork with the State of New Jersey where he lived. He quickly found himself in a new story discovering a whole family that was closer than he ever could have imagined.
Something very similar was in a recent documentary called: Three Identical Strangers. (Lamonte was adopted from the SAME agency) https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/three-identical-strangers-most-watched-200947933.html
Family is a sacred and strange thing but this story reminds us that DNA is not the only thing that ties us together, but it does help define us.
Follow Lamonte, AKA Monty on IG
Take a look at his company
32: Dave Diller is RENOVATING
He was a PAID pastor, now... he's not paid anymore. He's STILL a pastor (at large) and figuring things out about what it means to be a person of faith and a part of the church (or not), like us all. He's got a lot to say and it's fun. Artist, friend, co-owner of our turtle, CHIP in college.
Meet my friend from college Dave Diller.
31: Dan Collison: Exclude or Be Excluded?
Dan is a pastor, teacher and community leader in Minneapolis Minnesota. Dan seeks to affirm and include the LGBTQ+ community in his congregation despite pressure and threats that he could lose ministry credentials, his reputation and maybe even the church in which he leads. Take a listen with an open mind and heart.
Links to give you more background on Dan.
BraveMaker LGBTQ+ film, music and live podcast event
30: Values not belief statements with Kevin Neuner
Our last conversation of the year is with a pastor, church leader and a theologian who loves the scriptures. The way he thinks about following Jesus will challenge, inspire and potentially rattle you. Take a risk and listen to Kevin Neuner of Palo Alto's Spark Church and see how you might also live the sacred and strange way of living by values instead of belief statements.
Sunday March 10th, 2019 event:
29: The BraveMaker crossover episode
In this podcast you'll get a sneak peak of a whole new podcast where we interview creators and talk about film and all things creative!
28: Let the immigrants rise. Interview with Estefania Hermosillo
If you'd like to meet Estafania she will be on the panel discussion at the screening of feature film COLLISIONS on Monday December 17th, 7pm at Century 20 in Redwood City. Tickets can be purchased here:
27: Native American, Advocate and surrogate: Corrine Oestreich
Just in time for the Christmas season listen to the story of a woman giving birth for the benefit of others.
Corinne is occupied Muwekma Ohlone Territory Oglala/Mohawk/Swiss/Indo, Phenomenally Indigenous, and writer for Powwows.com.
Founder of Buffalo Project.
Find out more on her Instagram page.
26: It's the most wonderful time (for SEASON 2) of the year
Remember us for your GIVING TUESDAY donations and end of year tax deductible contributions
Wendy recommends podcaster Jen Hatmaker's "favorite things" if you want ideas for good gifts that are ethically sourced.
25: Laura Turner is making friends with Anxiety
24: Q+A with Tony + Wendy
This episode includes Game of Throne spoilers, potty talk and TMI about Tony's most embarrassing moment. Sorry.
Send your complaints to firstname.lastname@example.org
Adult language advisory.
23: GIVE US THAT BREAD (Tony Speaks)
Also---apologies in advance--Tony sings on this episode...and he sings CHER ...but it's Jack from Will and Grace's fault. Listen for the story.
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22: Anjelah Johnson is MORE THAN funny
21: Another Christian Coming Out story with Jerron Hess
He's quite the creative artist and tells a compelling narrative of his coming out experience that reminds us how life is both sacred and strange.
Follow his life and art at www.instagram.com/gaygermanbaptist
20: 5 Questions about Homosexuality with Matt Nighingale
19: More thoughts on suicide & social media aggression with Tony & Wendy
18: The Color of Grief with Kristin E.
Great tips about how to understand grief as well as insight for parents who care for children with depression and/or mental illness.
Listeners should be advised: This discussion may trigger strong emotions.
17: From Criminal Record to Stanford Grad with Gabe Lomeli
Connect with him on instagram:
16: Everyone's flawed. Admit it, get over it, talk about it.
15: Do we truly see? Can we hear? What are we missing?
Choose ONE. Hope to see you there.
Brave Maker Vision Night # 1 Friday 9/21/18 7pm
Brave Maker Vision Night #2 9/29/18 7pm
14: Conflict is necessary, get better w/ Michelle Vilchez
She speaks all across the country building bridges where there are divisions in faith communities and those interested in being equipped to have difficult conversations around race, politics, sexual orientation and more.
October 12, 2018 event tickets:
13: Does the Bible disagree with itself? w/ Dr. Daniel Kirk
12: God+Suicide+Adoption+Hope=Part 2 with Tony's mom Robin
This conversation contains strong words and discussion about suicide. October 14th, 2012 Tony's grandma took her own life. In this episode Robin discusses and processes the grief of losing her mom and how beauty came from dark times. Robin also shares about fostering and adopting kids and how she came to hear God's voice and let Jesus out of her proverbial closet.
11: God speaks in strange places (w/ Tony's mom: Robin)
10: God is Good & I am gay (part 2) with Matt Nightingale
9: God is Good & I am Gay (part 1) with Matt Nightingale
Matt's story is featured here:
8: Don't go to church pt 2 (My gay child is best thing ever)
7: Don't "go to church" Part 1 with Indelisa Montoro
6: Compassionate disruption & immigration with Rafael & Ana
Ana and Rafael Avendaño have something to say. Please listen. In Episode 6, this powerful couple who fight for justice, advocate for civil rights, and constantly find ways to help those in need challenge our thinking and misconceptions about immigration and refugees. Rafael and Ana invite us into a crucial conversation about humanity that we all need right now. This is an episode to listen together with others. Go ahead and make a pot of coffee, settle in and discuss. Are we willing to compassionately disrupt toxic leadership? Pastors and leaders this one will be especially challenging for you. Our silence is detrimental. People need us to step up, speak out and take a stand. When we do, we are creating the free America we all want to live in. This is sacred work.