
How the Fxck SEO Podcast
By Ben Goodey

How the Fxck SEO PodcastJan 11, 2023

Solo: Crafting your first topic cluster; Building authority content libraries; Getting real about quality (Just me & you, Ben Goodey)
We're back, baby! In this episode, I jump on to do my first-ever solo podcast. Just me and you.
I wanted to dig into a challenge my clients and network face regularly: How to craft your first topic cluster.
Your first for a client is so important. I can't stress that enough. It sets the tone and dictates whether SEO and Content will be part of your go-to-market moving forward.
So in this guide, I want to help you choose a topic that with high commercial potential that will also make sure you stand the f*ck out in your industry.
Key Links:
- Over 60 people have now purchased my Scale Package. Learn to dominate your industry with content that converts (and do it fast) right here.
- Join the How the F*ck community to instantly access our premium content and case study library.
—Benny

Q&A: Keyword optimization best practices; featured snippets, HARO, working with freelancers (with Zoe Ashbridge, Co-Founder at Forank)
I was so excited to welcome fellow Brit, Zoe Ashbridge, to the community today.
We throw tips and questions back and forth, discussing best practices around these four topics:
How to write content that targets a specific keyword
How to win featured snippets
How to win HARO links
How to work efficiently with freelancers (from briefs to workflows)
In the newsletter this week, I’ll round up some of our advice on 1 and 2 and I’ll let you dive into the conversation with Zoe to hear the rest.
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6-steps to building a high-converting SEO strategy (Cognitive FX SEO Case Study - 0 to 250K visitors/mo) (Benji Hyam, Co-Founder of Grow and Convert)
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Benji Hyam and his team at Grow & Convert build SEO strategies that focus on conversion, not traffic.
In this interview, we focus on the case study of Cognitive FX, which is a classic example of how to build a blog full of content that's high-converting, differentiated, and still outranks WebMD.
Benji walks us through pain point SEO, keyword prioritization and his approach to topical authority.
The results speak for themselves: their work has led to 250K monthly organic visitors and drives 50% of all new business for Cognitive FX.
Things You'll Learn:
- How to create a revenue-generating SEO strategy (from customer research to prioritizing keywords)
- How & why Grow & Convert charges $10K for 3 SEO articles
- The power of investing in truly quality content
- How to hire the best of the best writers

3-Part Framework for Ranking Content on Page 1 (Jessica Lam Hill Young & Yamon, the brand creatives) - Part 2
“60% of all our content ranks on page one.”—Jessica Lam Hill Young
In this episode, we learn the three-part framework Jess and her team use to create high-quality content that ranks on Google almost every time.
Expect to learn:
The three-part framework behind content that ranks on page 1
How to balance self-promotion & helpful content
Where to get subject matter expertise
Listen to part one from Jess here (I wrote my best insights into this article, with best bits from the episode).
Key Links:
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How to Properly Update Old Content - The SEO Refresh Checklist with Jessica Lam Hill Young & Yamon Y. (the brand creatives) - Part 1
Supporting article (free): How to Refresh Old Content for SEO (and what NOT to do)
This week's episode focuses on one of the most powerful tools in the SEO arsenal: content refreshes.
Want to impress your clients or boss? Start revisiting your vast library of content.
Be warned: hockey stick traffic growth awaits.
As you'll hear in the episode, updating old content can take a blog post from 0 to 5,500 monthly visitors in as little as one month.
Expect to Learn:
- What content to update and when
- How to update old content
Read the full article here to learn more about this topic. I offer 8 questions to ask yourself when updating old content and give tips on what not to do.
Key Links:
1. Sponsor #1: uSERP (Need an ambitious SEO agency? These are your people.)
2. Sponsor #2: Ahrefs (Best all-in-one SEO platform). Test out their free tools here: https://ahrefs.com/webmaster-tools
3. Grab my SEO brief template - Drive expertise, connection & ranking
4. View sh*t loads of awesome case studies in our SEO case study library
![How to Build Quality Content into a Velocity SEO Workflow [Erin Balsa, Founder at Haus of Bold, Content Strategist for Complex Enterprise SaaS]](https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/production/podcast_uploaded_nologo400/4891087/4891087-1673428286106-77e44ec57a9fd.jpg)
How to Build Quality Content into a Velocity SEO Workflow [Erin Balsa, Founder at Haus of Bold, Content Strategist for Complex Enterprise SaaS]
Our "raison d’etre" is to help marketers scale search traffic without sacrificing quality. This week, expect a ton of tips & ideas for doing just that.
I interviewed Erin Balsa, who builds thought leadership-driven content strategies for B2B SaaS startups that sell complex, enterprise solutions.
She, like me, has a strong aversion to putting out content that’s not unique and well-sourced. Both of our standards for minimum viable content are pretty damn high.
With the companies she works with, this stuff is critical.
B2B enterprise SaaS is as far from an impulse purchase as you can get. It’s expensive and there are lots of decision-makers involved.
You just can’t get away with cheap or AI-written content when you’re selling something expensive and complex to such a smart audience.
Grab the full case study here (it's a lot more in-depth than the interview).
Expect to Learn:
- How to build quality thought leadership-driven SEO topic clusters (a framework that drove 789 leads/month for me in my last role)
- The “how” behind a research report that drove $680k in closed business for Erin
- Two tips for building thought leadership into a Velocity SEO workflow
Key Links:
1. Sponsor #1: Skale B2B SEO Agency
2. Sponsor #2: Ahrefs (You know who they are). Test out their free tools here: https://ahrefs.com/webmaster-tools
3. Sponor #3: uSERP (Need an ambitious SEO agency? These are your people.)
4. Grab my SEO brief template - Drive expertise, connection & ranking
5. View sh*t loads of awesome case studies in our SEO case study library
![How Copy.AI Got 1M Clicks in 5 Months with First-Mover Advantages [Jeremy Moser, Founder at uSERP.io]](https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/production/podcast_uploaded_nologo400/4891087/4891087-1673428286106-77e44ec57a9fd.jpg)
How Copy.AI Got 1M Clicks in 5 Months with First-Mover Advantages [Jeremy Moser, Founder at uSERP.io]
Since launch in 2020, copy.ai has grown to 8M users in the fierce battle for AI content writing tools.
But back in 2022, when they began investing in SEO, search volumes for their core keywords (e.g. "AI content generator") were negligible if they existed at all.
Over that year, as we are all well aware, there was a rapid wave in demand for AI copywriting tools.
The team at copy.ai correctly predicted that demand. And as a result, they were the first to build an SEO strategy to capture it.And they won.
Their big money maker? A cluster of tools pages that now brings in way over 150,000 high-intent visitors a month.
In this SEO case study, we look at how copy.ai's SEO strategy helped them seize a first-mover advantage in the emerging category and how they built an SEO moat that they still benefit from today.
Guest: Jeremy Moser the Founder of uSERP.io, which is the Digital PR and Performance SEO agency for copy.ai.
Listen to this episode to find out:
- How Copy.ai gained a first-mover advantage, capitalizing on the AI wave
- How to determine if you have content-intent fit, or your content misses the point
- 5 changes to your that improved copy.ai’s CTR by 2.1% points.
- Where they focused backlink building at copy.ai and 3 key tips for building backlink authority
Full case study teardown here (with video!)
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3. Grab my SEO brief template - Drive expertise, connection & ranking
4. View sh*t loads of awesome case studies in our SEO case study library

How to Find and Target High Converting Keywords in Your Niche (With Jacob Clarke, Organic Growth @ NerdWallet)
We're joined again this week by Jacob from NerdWallet, this week to discuss a VERY important topic: high-converting keywords.
We discuss:
- What types of keyword drive conversions? (It's not just bottom-of-funnel!)
- How to find high-converting keywords in your niche (Full article contains modifiers to use in your research)
- Why it's important to craft a targeted, compelling offer
- How to build a web page that converts
Key links:
1. Sponsor #1: uSerp: userp.io for a great backlink-building agency
2. Grab my SEO brief template - Drive expertise, connection & ranking
3. Read the full teardown here.
4. View sh*t loads of awesome case studies in our SEO case study library

How Maze.co Built an SEO Revenue Engine to 900 Monthly Organic Sign-Ups (Jake Stainer, Co-Founder at Skale.so)
This case study is about an underdog website.
A new company, launching into a competitive niche and winning some of those most difficult keywords.
Maze broke through on topics like “UX Design” and “UX Design Tools” by focusing on:
- Thorough, well-crafted content
- Superior UI/UX designs
- Scalable link building
- CRO techniques
These are the core tenants of the SEO revenue engine that has allowed Maze to fuel its growth via search.
Listen to this episode to find out:
1. The SEO engine companies like Hubspot, MoonPay, UserZoom, PiktoChart and Maze have under the hood, and how to build one yourself.
2. How to pioneer your category via search. Winning growth EVEN when no one is searching for what you do.
3. How to avoid wasting search visitors. Most traffic reads and leaves, not anymore with this 3-step process.
4. A simple yet powerful technique for backlink building that will put you AHEAD of your competitors. Maze did this to beat a powerful competitor.
Note: Got questions? Jake kindly offered How the F*ck listeners a free 15-minute chat to SaaS peeps who wants help implementing this. Book here.
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4. Read the full teardown here.
5. View sh*t loads of awesome case studies in our SEO case study library

How to Build Topical Authority in SEO (With Jacob Clarke, Organic Growth @ NerdWallet)
Jacob Clarke joined the show today from NerdWallet's stupidly successful SEO team. He helps us define topical authority and drill down into how to achieve it to accelerate growth results.
In SEO, the concept of topical authority is one that's relatively new in our lexicon. But it's one of THE most powerful tools to have in your belt when building an SEO-driven content strategy.
Topics covered: Why prioritize topical authority? Two tried & tested methods for measuring authority. And a step-by-step for building authority.
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4. View sh*t loads of topical authority case studies in our SEO case study library

Scaling LivingCozy.com to 335,000 Monthly Page Views with Expert Content [Ash Read, Co-Founder at 937 Media. Ex-Buffer Editorial Director)
I had an amazing conversation with Ash Read this week on the show.
For those of you who know the software company Buffer, Ash was their Editorial Director for 6 years. So, you know, this is going to be an episode where you'll about scaling traffic with quality content systems.
Since 2020, Ash has been building a niche blog empire. Starting with LivingCozy.com, which focuses on home & furniture product reviews.
The site received over 335,000 monthly page views in Feb 2023 and earned ~$10K a month this time LAST year.
Expect to learn:
1. Living Cozy's initial content strategy and how it's evolved
2. Three types of content and why they write them
3. Why expertise is so important and how they get it for every article
4. How Ash uses "layering" to ship more content quickly
5. The ins and outs of Living Cozy's content operation
6. Living Cozy's backlink strategy
Sponsors:
1. Mentioned SEO brief template
2. Sponsor: uSerp: userp.io for a great backlink-building agency
3. Read this in article format
4. View sh*t loads of topical authority case studies in our SEO case study library
![Google's E-E-A-T: What is The New E and How to Demonstrate It in an AI World [Olga Zarr, SEO Consultant]](https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/production/podcast_uploaded_nologo400/4891087/4891087-1673428286106-77e44ec57a9fd.jpg)
Google's E-E-A-T: What is The New E and How to Demonstrate It in an AI World [Olga Zarr, SEO Consultant]
Learn about E-E-A-T and how to demonstrate it with SEO expert, Olga Zarr.
Topics: What is E-E-A-T? Does it matter for everyone? How can I demonstrate it to Google?
Key Links:
- Mentioned SEO brief template
- Read this in article format.
- Become a How the F*ck member & unlock 30+ SEO case studies.

Product-Led SEO and SurveyMonkey's $200M Annual Organic Growth Strategy (Eli Schwartz, Author of Product-led SEO and ex-SurveyMonkey Director of Growth)
Eli Schwartz has advised the who's who of technology companies: Zendesk, Coinbase, Quora, InsightTimer, and many more.
During his 7-year tenure at SurveyMonkey, his growth team of 5 was responsible for 2/3 of their annual revenue. In total, over $1bn in organic value (yes, that includes both branded search and content strategy).
"By the time I left, we were generating an average $200 million a year in revenue sourced from organic search."—Eli Schwartz
He systemized his learnings at SurveyMonkey into an approach called Product-led SEO. A methodology used by companies like Canva, Coinbase, Language Drops, and more to drive explosive growth.
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In this episode, we learn all about it:
- The SurveyMonkey Story - $200M in annual organic revenue - $1BN over 7 years he worked there [9:37]
- Inventing product-led SEO at SurveyMonkey [17:26]
- The REAL definition of product-led SEO [19:32 - 24:16]
- How product-led SEO drives revenue. The buyer journey [24:22-28:20]
- Predicting the end of Google’s dominance [31:48]
- Is Product-led SEO for you? [39:40]
- Common mistakes people make with Product-led SEO? [49:28]
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Want to really understand this technique?
I break down this strategy in full at thefxck.com:
- Premium case study: https://seo.thefxck.com/surveymonkey-seo-case-study/
- Premium Library: Access our library of 25+ Premium SEO strategy guides for scaling your traffic FAST for £17.
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Part 3: 2,300 Blog Posts in One Go?! How to Do Tomb Raiding Keyword Research - The Strategy Behind the "BEAST" SEO Case Study (Adam Smith, Founder @ Niche Website Builders) - SEO Podcast
In the final episode with Adam Smith, we look at the keyword research system behind his "beast" SEO case study.
Here's the background on the niche site:
- He bought an aged domain (DR 27)
- He wrote 4 million words (2,300 blog posts)
- It's currently at ~40,000 monthly visitors in
We've already heard:
- How to identify a profitable niche to target.
- How to leverage aged domains to fuel traffic growth.
In this week's episode, we explore how to raid competitor sites for content ideas that you're all but guaranteed to win.
Adam calls the system "tomb-raiding SEO", and it's the exact process he used to build the content strategy for the "beast".
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Want to really understand this technique?
I break down this strategy in full at thefxck.com:
- Premium case study: Tomb Raiding SEO: The Keyword Strategy Behind the "Beast"
- Premium Library: Access our library of 25+ Premium SEO strategy guides for scaling your traffic FAST for £17.
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Part 2: How to Choose a Profitable Niche That You Can *Actually* Win (Adam Smith, Founder @ Niche Website Builders) - SEO Podcast
More with Adam Smith!
This time? The hardest part of niche blogging: Actually choosing a sub-niche you don't regret.
This is the best methodology I've seen to find areas of traffic you can win, quickly.
Adam tells us how to take a data-led approach to this.
The savvy ones of you out there will have already noticed—this methodology (for finding untapped, uncompetitive traffic to win) also applies to SaaS and services.
Really, it's one of the most fundamental principles of SEO research. But taken through a lense I'd never considered before.
Expect to learn:
- How the experts (who frequently build and flip websites) choose niches.
- How to use a SERP analysis to identify weak points where YOUR brand new site can still steal traffic.
- Tricks & tips for winning traffic, fast!
Want to really understand this technique?
I break down this strategy in full at thefxck.com:
- Premium case study: How to Choose a Profitable Niche (Win Easy Traffic, Fast)
- Premium Library: Access our library of 25+ Premium SEO strategy guides for scaling your traffic FAST for £17.
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Part 1: How to Use Aged Domains to Juice Up Your Authority (Adam Smith, Founder @ Niche Website Builders) - SEO Podcast
This week, I caught up with niche website expert, Adam Smith, to learn how to use aged domains to accelerate traffic-building success.
Expert to learn:
- What is an aged domain?
- What use cases do they have in SEO?
- How can you evaluate them properly (9-step process) so you don't buy a red flag domain?
- How to implement them without Google knowing (the ENTIRE redirect process)
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- Premium case study: Aged Domains
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Part 2: How Monday.com Scaled Search Traffic 600% in 2 Years (Eliana Atia and Zoe Averbuch, Monday.com SEO & Content Leadership)
In this week's SEO case study, we revisit a story we released in December 2022: How Monday.com Scaled its SEO (1,000 articles in 12 months).
In part one, we lifted the hood of the content operation that underpinned Monday's very first major investment into SEO.
We learned how Monday worked with the content production company, Codeless.io, to make up for lost time.
In part two, we hear from two Monday insiders.
Eliana Atia, Brand and SEO Content Team Lead, who joined the team just after the IPO, 6 months after the project started.
Zoe Averbuch, Senior SEO Manager, who led the project while it unfolded.
Eliana and Zoe tell us the logic behind the strategy; the return on investment for Monday; and how they've since iterated their strategy.
Expect to learn:
⚡ Monday's SEO philosophy: Why failing fast, learning, and iterating were all part of the plan.
⚡ Working together with the paid acquisition team: How Monday's 8 years of heavy ad spend helped optimize their SEO strategy.
⚡ Why prioritization is everything in SEO. And why this means it's important to ship new content before it's fully edited.
⚡ Return on investment: Was the experiment worth it? How has Monday's SEO strategy iterated from their learnings?
⚡ Moving forward: What were their biggest learnings and how are they continuously maintaining their enormous content library?
Read the teardown: Access our full library of 25+ Premium SEO case studies and deep best practice insights for £17 at www.thefxck.com.

Aura.com's Full Funnel SEO Strategy: ~1 Million Monthly Visitors in 12 Months (Gaetano DiNardi, Growth Advisor, and ex-VP of Growth at Aura)
Gaetano developed the strategy that took Aura's SEO traffic to close to ~1 million monthly visitors in 12 months.
The blog started with zero content and low domain authority. Now, with only 100-200 pieces of content, Aura holds its own in competition against rivals like McAfee, Norton, and Experian.
In this week's SEO case study, we learn how Aura approached content. Everything from their publishing schedule to why they built a YouTube channel.
Key questions:
- What is "introductionless content?"
- Why do brands need to move into video NOW?
- What do most companies get wrong about keyword research?
- How to do backlink building in 2023
- The power of empathy in content
Read the teardown: Access our full library of 25+ Premium SEO case studies and deep best practice insights for £17 at www.thefxck.com.

How to Create Remarkable SEO Content with LEMA (Lily Ugbaja, Freelance Content Strategist for B2B SaaS, ex-Animalz)
Downloadable LEMA framework template: https://www.thefxck.com/lema-framework-template
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In SEO, creating quality, experience-driven content has never been more important.
It now takes 5 minutes to write a better-than-average article using AI. Which means we have just entered into an age of content commoditization.
You need to differentiate your strategy. Fast.
Great content that *actually* wins in the next 5-10 years needs to be the kind of stuff that you bookmark and come back to read. It needs to go the extra mile.
In short, it needs to follow the LEMA framework. Logic. Explicitness. Memorable. Action.
Find out what this means and exactly how to use it in your content in this week's interview with Lily Ugbaja.
She's written for Zapier, WordPress, Databox, Animalz, and Hubspot. And she knows how to make remarkable content.
Mentioned article: The Idea Farm by Animalz https://www.animalz.co/blog/idea-farm/
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![Fixing the SEO of an £80m monthly fashion eCommerce company (and adding 22% Revenue in 12 Months (Louis Smith, eCommerce SEO specialist]](https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/production/podcast_uploaded_episode400/4891087/4891087-1676398087748-c3281a045c04f.jpg)
Fixing the SEO of an £80m monthly fashion eCommerce company (and adding 22% Revenue in 12 Months (Louis Smith, eCommerce SEO specialist]
eCommerce SEO expert, Louis Smith, came on the podcast this week to talk through one of his case studies.
He helped this company grow from £80m monthly revenue to ~£100m in 12 months.
When he started working with this fashion brand, they'd grown rapidly through paid acquisition channels. SEO hadn't been a focus at all, so they had a ton of technical issues, content strategy needs, and best practices to implement across the board.
We look at what those SEO implementations were and why they were pivotal to success.
Think: GeoTags; Category page design; Content strategy; Backdoor link building.
Watch extra videos, get concepts explained, and deep dive into this full strategy in the premium case study.
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0 to £6 billion IPO in 2 years | The role of SEO in Cazoo's growth story (Andy Francos, Ex-Group Head of Organic Performance at Cazoo)
Andy Francos was the Group Head of Organic Performance at Cazoo from day one through to IPO.
In this episode, we learn:
- How Cazoo built a customer-centric organic strategy for the long-term
- Why Cazoo's non-branded search traffic grew from 6k to 120k a month within 2 weeks
- The interplay between PR, national TV ad campaigns, high-profile acquisitions, and SEO
This one's a real masterclass in SEO from one the UKs biggest tech success stories of recent years.
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Read the teardown: Access our full library of 25+ Premium SEO case studies and deep best practice insights for £17 at www.thefxck.com.

My content operations playbook (How to create 800 blog posts per month) (Gordana Sretenovic, Co-Founder at Workello)
Bonus: Find the full content operations guide here.
This week I’ve got a very special guest Gordana Stretenovic from Workello.
Gordana and her team have grown multiple company's search traffic exponentially again and again from 0 to up to a crazy 1.5m visitors per month.
At one point, her agency produced 800 blog posts per month for their clients with in-house 45 writers and editors.
To get an operation like that producing high-quality content you need:
- Hiring processes
- Enablement docs
- Templates to follow
- And a tech stack to support you
In this episode, we learn the exact processes, documentation, and tools you need in place to build a quality content operation that supports both writers and your clients.
Deep dive content operations: Access our full library of 25+ Premium SEO case studies and deep best practice insights for £17 at www.thefxck.com.

How Typeform Built SEO into a $3M Annual Lifetime Revenue Channel (Jake Stainer, Co-Founder at Skale, Ex-Typeform Head of Growth)
Jake Stainer joined Typeform in June 2015 as employee #29.
In his first couple of weeks, they celebrated hitting £1M in annual revenue from 5,000 customers.
By the time he left just 3.5 years later?
Typeform had:
- 10x the employees
- Grown to $13M in ARR
- Grown their SEO channel to $3M in yearly lifetime value revenue
In this week's SEO case study, we hear how a growth marketer scales SEO.
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![Hotjar's Traffic Explosion: 47% Increase in 2 Years (Sean Potter, Senior SEO & Content Strategist at Hotjar) [SEO Case Study]](https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/production/podcast_uploaded_episode400/4891087/4891087-1673428426399-d23ff26b4a5d.jpg)
Hotjar's Traffic Explosion: 47% Increase in 2 Years (Sean Potter, Senior SEO & Content Strategist at Hotjar) [SEO Case Study]
Hotjar's search volume increased 47% over the past 2 years. That's millions of new visitors each year.
And the best thing? Revenue results. It's driving *actual* revenue results.
Hotjar's SEO strategy is mission-critical to its customer acquisition strategy. And as a channel, the costs are proving to be significantly lower.
On the podcast this week, I've got Hotjar's SEO content mastermind, Sean Potter, to discuss how one of the most authoritative websites in the world approaches SEO-led growth.
Read this episode with extras: Access our full library of 25+ Premium SEO case studies and deep best practice insights for £17 at www.thefxck.com.
![How Retro Dodo grew 1M clicks and $50K monthly revenue in 3 years (Brandon Saltalamacchia, Founder at RetroDodo) [SEO Case Study]](https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/staging/podcast_uploaded_episode400/4891087/4891087-1681842293580-bdc39847a8c98.jpg)
How Retro Dodo grew 1M clicks and $50K monthly revenue in 3 years (Brandon Saltalamacchia, Founder at RetroDodo) [SEO Case Study]
My guest this week built the most successful Retro Gaming website around today.
In this episode, we hear how Brandon's multimedia approach to content creation helped him build a brand with ~100k social followers, 270k YouTube subscribers, and 1 million monthly clicks.
It's extraordinary to think that Brandon's background is in video production. He's not an SEO by trade, he only just realized that he's been naturally building content clusters all along.
Instead of overfocusing on the algorithms, he's built a brand his readers love.
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![How Scribe grew from 0 to 30,000 monthly visitors in 7 months (with significant ROI) (Jakub Rudnik, Head of Content, ex-G2 Content Strategist) [SEO Case Study]](https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/production/podcast_uploaded_episode400/4891087/4891087-1671554024576-e0678d2cc61aa.jpg)
How Scribe grew from 0 to 30,000 monthly visitors in 7 months (with significant ROI) (Jakub Rudnik, Head of Content, ex-G2 Content Strategist) [SEO Case Study]
This week, I catch up with a world-class content strategist, Jakub Rudnik.
Safe to say he's been around the block. He was at G2 as a senior content strategist during the hyper-growth years (seeing all the errors they made with content) and prior to that, he worked at places like the Chicago Tribune as a writer.
Now, leading content at Scribe, I catch up with Jakub to hear how his team built content into a leading growth driver.
Since his arrival, they grew from zero to a lot more than 30,000 monthly visitors. But, more importantly, they grew from 5,000 users to 200,000.
In this case study, we hear how his team produced content at high velocity and then analyzed which topics and types were driving the best outcomes. They doubled down on what was working, iterating the content strategy around revenue growth.
Expect to learn:
- How to build a world-class content strategy
- How to breathe a journalistic quality into your content
- How Scribe measured ROI and iterated it into their strategy
- How your product can lend itself to SEO, and whether SEO is right for your product
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![How UserPilot Scaled to 100K Clicks in 10 Months With Programmatic SEO (Emilia Korczyńska, Head of Marketing, UserPilot) [SEO Case Study]](https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/production/podcast_uploaded_episode400/4891087/4891087-1670962287923-f71bc94fbdc7d.jpg)
How UserPilot Scaled to 100K Clicks in 10 Months With Programmatic SEO (Emilia Korczyńska, Head of Marketing, UserPilot) [SEO Case Study]
It took UserPilot three years to get its first 25,000 monthly organic visitors. And, just 10 months to get to 100,000.
Whaaaat?! Triple the growth rate. 🤯 How on earth did they...
Well, in short, they:
- Learned how to build efficient content operations (scaling from 4 monthly blogs to 40)
- Leveraged programmatic SEO to scale production even further
All without a drop in quality. Interesting. 🤔
This week, I talk to UserPilot’s Head of Marketing, Emilia Korczyńska to hear her story. It wasn't an easy journey. They made mistakes along the way. But from the flames of challenge, efficient operations were born.
UserPilot is now capable of producing 29 long-form blog posts per hour.
Per. F*ucking. Hour.
In this week's write-up, I deep dive exactly how they use programmatic SEO to do this without losing quality, and explain how you can do the same.
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![Growing My Niche Website to 75,000 Monthly Visitors & £7K Income in 2 Years with SEO (Samantha North, Founder at digitalemigre.com) [SEO Case Study]](https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/staging/podcast_uploaded_episode400/4891087/4891087-1681842161966-b387a173a751b.jpg)
Growing My Niche Website to 75,000 Monthly Visitors & £7K Income in 2 Years with SEO (Samantha North, Founder at digitalemigre.com) [SEO Case Study]
Samantha North learned SEO from scratch and built her niche blog to 3,000 daily visits (75K monthly), all in under 2 years.
In this episode, we deep dive Samantha's story, including everything from the number of blog posts created to how to monetize organic traffic.
The highlights:
- How to choose your niche
- How to monetize a website
- Mistakes to avoid when pursuing your own niche blog
- Three things pivotal to her success
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![How Monday.com Wrote 1,000 SEO Articles in 12 Months (and then IPO'd) (Brad Smith, Codeless) [SEO Case Study]](https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/staging/podcast_uploaded_episode400/4891087/4891087-1681841978311-0627a0982df5b.jpg)
How Monday.com Wrote 1,000 SEO Articles in 12 Months (and then IPO'd) (Brad Smith, Codeless) [SEO Case Study]
Grab the full strategy guide here.
Leading up to their IPO in 2021, Monday.com went all-guns-blazing on content.
They built a huge moat of long-form content which sees them ranking for all their core product use cases and the surrounding pain points.
Now, Monday.com drives over 1.2M visitors to its site every month.
We were fortunate enough to have the engineer behind this strategy, Brad Smith, whose team created 1,000 articles for Monday in 12 months, on the podcast this week to talk strategy.
Brad and his team have mastered content operations and have scaled content for the likes of Robinhood, ActiveCampaign, and FreshWorks, too.
In the first 3 months, Brad’s work led to a 1,570% increase in Monday’s search traffic and significantly more over the next 12 months (now at 1.2M).
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How to Create Your First SaaS SEO Strategy (Brendan Hufford, Founder at Growth Sprints)
This week’s How the F*ck episode centers on a role-play between me and leading SaaS SEO strategist, Brendan Hufford.
Here’s the background. I’m a SaaS founder for a productivity software. Our go-to-market model is sales-led, which means our job is to generate quality leads and hand them off to sales who own the sales process.
The challenge I handed Brendan was that I have 2 people on my team, a head of marketing and a content writer, and we are starting from scratch, with zero content.
Brendan, where do we start?
We covered:
⚡ The alternative to 6-12 SEO retainers and why it’s so effective.
⚡ A four-part framework for SEO success. Brendan uses this to scale his clients from $10m to $100m in revenue.
⚡ How SEOs can use the I AM framework to create content that wins in search.
⚡ Why your product offer is so important, and it’s much more than your software.
⚡ Why copywriter Eugene Schwartz is an important part of great SEO.
⚡ How to create a content plan (our role play and how to ask the RIGHT questions before getting started).
⚡ 5-step revenue-focused content framework for early-stage startups
⚡ Gated vs Ungated content, Brendan weighs in.
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![How to Get £13 Million in Revenue With Local SEO (Tim Hanson, Founder at fivethreeoh) [SEO Case Study]](https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/production/podcast_uploaded_episode400/4891087/4891087-1668556509089-0146be2af3e14.jpg)
How to Get £13 Million in Revenue With Local SEO (Tim Hanson, Founder at fivethreeoh) [SEO Case Study]
Tim's a SaaS SEO specialist, known for his sprints approach and the super insightful strategies he shares on LinkedIn.
In the episode, Tim shared the details behind an extremely impressive growth story.
For one of his former clients, a premium child daycare, Tim helped them grow from barely ranking to earning £13.5 million in revenue via SEO.
That's what we call high-value search marketing. 🚀
We covered:
⚡ The story behind the growth of child daycare to £13m.
⚡ One quick website optimization that ranked the site top 10 (for tons of keywords) in just three weeks.
⚡ Why letting your SEO writers breathe and write content they enjoy writing benefits rankings.
⚡ Why you should just hit publish on content, even when it's 80% complete.
⚡ Why "money" keywords are important and how you can rank #1 for them.
⚡ Three ways to get in front of your target persona, even when there's zero search volume for products like yours.
⚡ The benefits of topic authority for winning trust and enabling your buyer.
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![How SEO Helped Supermetrics Grow to $50m ARR (Edward Ford, Demand Gen Director, Supermetrics) [SEO Case Study]](https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/production/podcast_uploaded_episode400/4891087/4891087-1667987517442-81775cdaec2b6.jpg)
How SEO Helped Supermetrics Grow to $50m ARR (Edward Ford, Demand Gen Director, Supermetrics) [SEO Case Study]
Supermetrics just hit $50m ARR. That's more than 5x since Edward Ford joined the team three years ago.
You know what's cool? Supermetrics earned their first $5m in revenue without a single salesperson.
With clever demand generation playbooks and a healthy focus on what actually works, they lead growth from the front. Now they have over 120 salespeople and 30 marketers and continue to grow quickly.
In this episode, we deep dive into their remarkable growth journey.
You'll hear: what channels make up their organic growth engine, the role of organic acquisition and how they captured intent, and product-led content, what is it and why does it work?
Don't like taking notes? Find the strategy written up at thefxck.com every week for £8 per month. You'll also get instant access to 20 SEO case study teardowns and more member-only content.

4 Thought Leadership Frameworks to Create Expert Content for SEO (Ryan Law, VP of Content at Animalz)
This week on the How the F*ck podcast, I have the pleasure of welcoming Ryan Law, VP of Content at Animalz onto the podcast.
Ryan and Animalz have helped shift the way marketers approach content again and again with their thought leadership.
From articles on the latest SEO trends through to frameworks, models, and predictions for better content, their thought leadership just hits the nail on the head every time.
In this episode, we take a look under the hood of Animalz own content strategy before going through four frameworks that SEOS can use to inject thought leadership into every new article you write.
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![How to Get 2m Clicks in 16 Months in a Tough-to-Win Niche (Ryan Darani, SEO Consultant and YMYL expert) [SEO Case Study]](https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/production/podcast_uploaded_episode400/4891087/4891087-1666647045621-2cff792bcb771.jpg)
How to Get 2m Clicks in 16 Months in a Tough-to-Win Niche (Ryan Darani, SEO Consultant and YMYL expert) [SEO Case Study]
This week I’m joined by Ryan Darani, an expert SEO consultant in the Your Money Your Life (YMYL) space.
Ryan grew the website of an eCommerce at-home blog testing kit company from 30,000 to 195,000 monthly clicks in 16 months (a total of 2m clicks and counting).
The content is healthcare focused, which makes it particularly difficult to rank. YMYL content is the type that features on healthcare, financial and government blogs. It’s difficult to rank by design, because if it contains inaccurate, untruthful or deceptive information it could directly influence the reader’s happiness, health, safety or financial stability. In short, Google doesn’t want anybody to win it.
We’ll hear the strategy from start to finish. Including how to understand search intent, how to win difficult keywords, how to infuse quality into your content, where to get expert-level insight from, and how to signal E-A-T.
Don't like taking notes? Find the strategy written up at thefxck.com every week for £8 per month. You'll also get instant access to 20 SEO case study teardowns and more member-only content.
![How Operto 4x revenue in 12 months with SEO (Maeva Cifuentes, CEO at Flying Cat Marketing) [SEO Case Study]](https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/production/podcast_uploaded_episode400/4891087/4891087-1665772319909-0c76940eaae72.jpg)
How Operto 4x revenue in 12 months with SEO (Maeva Cifuentes, CEO at Flying Cat Marketing) [SEO Case Study]
In this episode, Maeva shares with me how she and her fast-growing team quadrupled the revenue of property automation software company, Operto in just 12 months.
You'll learn the fundamentals of Maeva's Foundation-Growth-Scale SEO framework which you can take away, copy and apply at your startup.
Don't like taking notes? Find the strategy written up at thefxck.com every week for £8 per month. You'll also get instant access to 20 SEO case study teardowns and more member-only content.

Kevin Indig's 5 Key Lessons From a 10-year Career in SEO (ex-Director at Shopify, Atlassian, G2, DailyMotion)
Reflecting on a 10-year career, Kevin Indig shares five important lessons he's learned in his SEO career about management, influence, and execution. The career lessons come alongside fascinating stories from his time as an SEO Director at companies like Atlassian, Shopify, G2, and DailyMotion.
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![How Topical Authority Helped Respona Grow from 0 to ~100K Monthly Organic Visitors (George Chasiotis, Managing Director at Minuttia) [SEO Case Study]](https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/production/podcast_uploaded_episode400/4891087/4891087-1664536092593-86ab800549b43.jpg)
How Topical Authority Helped Respona Grow from 0 to ~100K Monthly Organic Visitors (George Chasiotis, Managing Director at Minuttia) [SEO Case Study]
This week's episode deep dives the organic growth journey of product-led SaaS tool, Respona.
George and his team wrote close to 100 blog posts, driving 20,000 organic keywords—1,500 of which were in position 1-3.
We'll look at how to choose keywords that drive revenue growth, but also build enough authority in the eyes of Google to win them. We'll look at query types and which to go for.
And, we'll end with George's secret sauce: are links required? What's the future of SEO? What's a good client?
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![Three PR-Driven Strategies That'll Earn You 100s of SEO Backlinks in One Weekend (Fery Kaszoni, Search Intelligence) [SEO Case Study]](https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/production/podcast_uploaded_episode400/4891087/4891087-1662307136256-52f97259135aa.jpg)
Three PR-Driven Strategies That'll Earn You 100s of SEO Backlinks in One Weekend (Fery Kaszoni, Search Intelligence) [SEO Case Study]
In this week's How the F*ck episode, I caught up with the expert in PR-based link building: Fery Kaszoni, the founder of the fast-growing link building agency, Search Intelligence.
Together, we'll walk you through three PR campaign strategies that Fery has used to, at one point, drive +100 backlinks from famous newspapers in one weekend.
Expect a whirlwind ride through these key points:
- How the PR link building approach works
- A 'reactive PR' campaign that got 100 links in one weekend
- An 'expert-commentary' PR campaign that got 50 links
- A 'data-driven' PR campaign that got 50 links
- And how YOU can do the above yourself easily
If you've written lots of great SEO content and aren't quite seeing the results you expected...this is the episode for you.
Don't like taking notes? Find the strategy written up at thefxck.com every week for £8 per month. You'll also get instant access to 20 SEO case study teardowns and more member-only content.
![How to Grow From 0 to 2.3M Organic Traffic in 12 Months (Dimitris Drakatos, Head of SEO at Paired, ex-Peanut, ex-Revolut) [SEO Case Study]](https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/production/podcast_uploaded_episode400/4891087/4891087-1662307086426-20fcb5d3727c7.jpg)
How to Grow From 0 to 2.3M Organic Traffic in 12 Months (Dimitris Drakatos, Head of SEO at Paired, ex-Peanut, ex-Revolut) [SEO Case Study]
How the F*ck SEO kicks off with an interview with the awe-striking Dimitris Drakatos. After stints at leading tech companies like Workable and Revolut, Dimitris joined Peanut to build their organic growth engine.
And, what a wild ride it’s been. In 12 short months, the Peanut blog has exploded from 400 monthly visitors to 2.3M. This kind of growth is extraordinary even in the world of exponential SEO graphs.
So, what types of content was written? How much? Who was involved? What were the secrets behind the success? In this episode we answer these and many more.
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Ep. 36: How to create an inbound lead engine your sales team doesn't hate (Feat. Jennifer Montague, Director of Marketing @ Dixa)
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This week's guest is Jen Montague, Director of Marketing at Dixa (the Europe-based customer service platform that just raised their $105m series C round).
We dig into Dixa's lead gen process, from content creation; distribution process; paid advertising best practice; audience segmentation; and most importantly, the process of taking an inbound lead and turning it into something that your sales team can't WAIT to receive.
Enjoy the episode. Drop us a note on LinkedIn with your feedback, I'd love to hear from you.

Ep. 35: How to use customer calls to create content that drives revenue (Feat. Yaagneshwaran Ganesh, Director of Marketing at Avoma)
“I don’t believe in creating lots of top of funnel content. When you are part of a startup or a mid-market company, everything that you do needs to map to a result.”
In this episode, we catch up with Yaag Ganesh, Director of Marketing at Avoma, to hear about some of the content that he and his team have been creating to drive the startup's growth.
We deep dive into a couple of blog post examples to understand the philosophy and process behind them—and find out a ton of best practices for writing content that *actually* resonates with a reader.

Ep. 34: The power of events in B2B marketing (Feat. Anthony Kennada, CMO at Hopin, ex-Gainsight CMO)
This week's How the Fxck interview is with the incredible Anthony Kennada, CMO at Hopin.
Anthony was the first marketer and founding CMO at Gainsight, which grew to $100m ARR and sold for over $1bn to Vista in 2020.
At the time of recording this episode, Anthony had just joined Hopin, the explosively fast-growth hybrid events management platform.
(Hopin is the fastest growing SaaS business ever with a valuation of $5.6bn in under 2 years.)
So, safe to say, he knows his stuff and had a ton of tactics to share.
The episode focuses on the demand gen and content tactics that Anthony has used along the way.
In particular, we focus on events.
The Gainsight team is well known for creating the category of customer success, and a big part of that journey was championing the profession through events.
You’ll hear the story of how Anthony and his team created a conference of 300 like-minded people and grew it to +6,000 yearly attendees.
"I started breaking it apart and saying, 'what do I love about my career? What do I love about marketing?' And at the atomic level, I realized it was connection between people, whether digitally or in person, and events are the channel by which that happens. Some of the most inspired work we had at Gainsight was there."
We discuss why most startups should not create a category and the difficulties and common mistakes of those who do.
Towards the middle-end of the interview, we dive into Anthony’s first three weeks at Hopin.
We chat about:
- Why Hopin is not just a natural fit for Anthony, but a brand mission that aligns with his own.
- What growth strategies are underway already.
- What will be prioritised at Hopin? And how will marketing contribute to Hopin’s continued fast growth?
Visit www.thefxck.com for the breakdown, video and timstamps.

Ep. 33: How I attract big name clients with content (Xenia, Founder of Planable)
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In this week's podcast, we talked to the founder of Planable, Xenia Muntean.
Planable is a social media collaboration and management used by marketers to plan, collaborate, approve and schedule their social media posts.
Planable boasts clients like Social Chain and the United Nations. So, in this episode, we deep dive into the content strategy used to win those customers.

Ep. 31: How I grew from 0 to +500,000 organic monthly visitors in 16 months (zero backlinks or dirty tricks)
This one is better seen on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyZWuEG3sFQ
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Ep. 32: How I grew AWW App (acquired by Miro) to 1.5m MAU
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In this episode of the How the Fxck podcast, I chatted to Zvonimir Sabljić, founder of AWW App.
Zvonimir and his team built a powerfully engaging customer experience, which they leveraged to rank #1 in Google for some highly competitive keywords.
In this episode, you'll learn how they grew to 1.5 million monthly users, what marketing techniques they used, how they built a competitive advantage, and eventually sold to their biggest competitor, Miro.
What's in the episode:
00:00: Brief summary and intro to the podcast
01:00: Welcome
1:56: Discussion of SEO success on Google
1:43: How did SEO and Google help with the growth of AWW App
3:32: How customer experience helped with the success of AWW
4:26: Discussion of AWW’s customer experience principles
5:06: How simplicity can be used as a tool for success
5:55: Demonstration of how AWW works
10:23: How customer success and speed of engagement of AWW helped them have a low bounce rate
12:06: How does focusing on the user and prioritising their experience by giving them relative content help with ranking on Google
13:20: How many monthly active users is AWW attracting?
13:44: What are the main things you can rank on one page for?
15:00: How did Miro and AWW join forces?
15:30: At what point in AWW’s journey did they start to convert customers to paid?
17:40: How did AWW attract paid users?

Ep. 30: How to start a successful marketing agency, Nemanja Zivkovic
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It was an absolute pleasure to interview one of my favourite marketers: Nemanja Zivkovic.
In the episode, we dig into the Funky Marketing success story.
Funky Marketing started in 2019 and Nemanja & co. closed 33 deals in 2020 alone.
If you want to replicate his success on one of your projects, startups or marketing campaigns, this is a must-watch episode.

Ep.29, Tom Bangay, 1,200+ organic downloads from this revenue-focused eBook strategy
This week, I had an extremely insightful and in-depth chat with Tom Bangay, the Director of Content at the Series A stage contract automation startup for lawyers, Juro.
We got to the heart of some of the biggest conversation going on in the marketing world right now: brand vs lead gen; gated vs ungated; inbound vs outbound.
But the main topic of this week's podcast is Tom's extraordinarily successful ebook building strategy.
Using the techniques in the playbook we're about to discuss, Tom and his team consistently get over 1,000 organic downloads on their eBooks.
You'll learn:
• How to get influential people from top brands to contribute to your content (even if you've got no brand yourself)
• How to design content that people want to read
• How to decide what to write about: should it be product related or designed for persona fit?
• How to decide WHO should contribute to your eBook
• The secret sauce for getting so many downloads
• So, you've got 1,000 downloads. We also go through what to do with all those contact details to get REVENUE!
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Ep.28. Tim Soulo, CMO at Ahrefs, How to design SEO content that converts readers and drives tangible business growth
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Kicking off season two with a bang, we've got Tim Soulo, CMO of Ahrefs.com.
In this episode, we cover:
• Growing the Ahrefs blog to 1.5 million monthly visitors
• Why traffic doesn't matter (and why Ahrefs has never used Google Analytics or retargeting pixels)
• How to design content that drives sign-ups (and why you shouldn't waste your time on anything else)
• How to rank #1 in Google (like Ahrefs does for everything)
• What type of content Ahrefs writes and why it works so well
• How to make 'you' focused content that also adds a lot of value
• What are the limitations to this approach?
• How do Ahrefs promote their content? How do they build backlinks?
• What are the six ways content marketing at Ahrefs contributes to revenue growth?
• Are backlinks really important? If so, why?
Join the How the Fxck community to get instant access to this episode summarised into a PDF playbook. Download here.
"You can be successful with a few simple fundamentals and by getting rid of non-essential stuff. Create a product that's genuinely useful to people. Forget growth hacks, make your product indispensable."
Ep. 27: Andy Culligan CMO, How to generate 15,000 webinar for
This week's marketing leader is Andy Culligan, the CMO of LeadFeeder.
Andy joined LeadFeeder in 2020 and took on the task of creating fresh pipeline and growing revenue through marketing.
In this podcast, he tells the story of cutting the marketing campaign budget to a third (by reducing paid and agency fees) but still getting the same volume of leads.
We learn how Andy and his team put on multiple webinars over the year that more than 15,000 people attended.
Interweaved with the story of webinar success we learn:
- Andy's secret to success (i.e. scaling Exponia from $4m ARR to $16m ARR)
- Why SDRs under marketing works can be vital to growth
- Why you need to make sure leads actually trickle down to a sale. Matching lead gen to revenue outcomes.
- How to design content around your what's keeping your customers up at night
- How to get 1,000s of webinar attendees even if you don't have a big email list
- How to score your leads to only push the best ones to your sales development team
- Why you must immediately follow up on demo requests
- Advice on whether an 'eBook download' should be called immediately, nurtured or just wait for them to have higher intent
- How to get from SEO to a lead
- Why actionable content is king (or queen)
- Why you shouldn't overcomplicate things (which marketers so often do)
Next week, I'll release a playbook. Subscribe on thefxck.com to get it.

Ep. 26: Eddie Shleyner, How to write copy like a pro
Here's a man who needs no introduction: Eddie Shleyner.
I've been wildly excited to release this episode since I recorded it over a month ago.
I was hanging off of every word the first time and the second time I listened to it back during editing.
Eddie displays his deep knowledge of copywriting in this episode.
Having studied the greats, he seamlessly draws on their experience to deliver an explosive number of tips and tricks for anyone aspiring to copywriting excellence.
Eddie's the ex-copywriting lead at G2, copywriting consultant at HelpScout and Drift, and the +7 year founder of VeryGoodCopy.
VeryGoodCopy is vividly useful and educational copywriting blog, newsletter and premium community. The blog hosts more than 250 lessons and interviews and four valuable micro-courses.
He brings all those years of dedicated practice to the interview in which we cover these points:
(1) Eddie's copywriting journey. How can you learn and master the skill of copywriting like Eddie?
(2) VeryGoodCopy's growth journey. Learn the tips & tricks Eddie used to gain 15k subscribers, making this his full-time career, and growing his LinkedIn audience to 32k+ followers.
(3) Why Eddie's process for writing helps him be such a prolific high-quality content producer.
(4) There are 5 elements to every email. Learn what they are and how you can leverage them to grow your business.
(5) 5 high-value pieces of advice for aspiring copywriters that will either kick off your career or take all of your marketing to the next level.
(6) Eddie tells us the strongest human incentive and you can use in your copywriting to consistently drive action.
(7) Eddie gives me a lesson that boosted the conversion rate on my latest eBook.
(8) Learn why the skill of copywriting isn't necessarily your mastery of English. Which copywriter made $200m in sales despite it being his second language.
(9) Towards the very end, Eddie gives us one actionable tip to help generate creative connections that will boost your copywriting conversions.
If any of this blog post convinced you to listen...that's because I've listened to the podcast TWICE. It's that valuable.
Listen here.