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Hyde or PractiseJun 14, 2023

S7 Ep 6: Gallerist Carlye Packer!
If we told you how many jewels of knowledge Los Angeles based Gallerist Carlye Packer gives us in this episode, you would accuse us of exaggerating, but we aren't! She goes over her incredible career, from unsuspecting pop-ups and installations, to general advising, to finally setting up the eponymous space! We get into what her role is as a gallerist to her artists, how she finds artists, what she looks for in a practice and more!
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Carlye Packer - carlyepacker.xyz/, @carlyepacker
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com, Art/Practice: Creative prompts to develop your art practice
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Alexander Rossi: AlexanderRossi.me

S7 Ep 5: AI Fear Mongering
In short Alexis peer pressured Erika to talk to her about AI because she is getting very bored of all the fear mongering about it. There are real conversations to be had, but those headlines and stories are practical and a little boring and probably won't get as many clicks.
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Alexander Rossi alexanderrossi.me
DON'T FORGET
If you're an artist- sign up to be a beta tester for TPP https://topractisepractice.com/ !

S 7 Ep 4: Assistant Curator Sarah Mackay
From the hallowed halls of the Fine Arts Museums of San Francisco, Legion of Honor, Alexis and Erika are joined by the esteemed Assistant Curator of Prints, Drawings & Photographs, Sarah Mackay! After running into her at a studio visit during various trips to Los Angeles, she tells us the trajectory of her career, which started off rather differently than most: She was a classical ballet dancer! It's an incredible episode getting into the nitty gritty of hard work, dedication, being available and committing and the proof is in the pudding, it has gotten Mackay FAR!
Sarah RECOMMENDS
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Sarah Mackay: - @s.mackayfecit, famsf.org
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com, Art/Practice: Creative prompts to develop your art practice
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Alexander Rossi: AlexanderRossi.me

S 7 Ep 3: Gallery Director Andrea Bastug
Andrea Bastug is Director of Hamilton Selway and our hearts! She does us the MAJOR solid of starting from the very beginning! School, internships, moving, debt, cold emails, and more! She's an incredible resource and not only in regards to her career but also into the markets of editioned works and secondary markets- vital components of the Art World Ecosystem© (lol I made that up) and how they can be incorporated into any artist's practice and collector relations! We end talking about what is in her Artworld Survival Kit© (I'm on a roll) and this is not an ep to be missed!
ANDREA RECOMMENDS
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Andrea Bastug: - @dreabell, HamiltonSelway.com
HOP S 3 Ep 12: Vanessa Prager First Interview!
Vanessa Prager Portraits at Diane Rosenstein
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Alexander Rossi: AlexanderRossi.me

S 7 Ep 2: Mini Ep - Alexis Special Announcement!
Did y'all know Alexis runs an artist residency program in LA? Well, did you know it just announced it's expanding to New York and the call for artists is now open? Listen up because it's true and it's HAPPENING! Deadline is coming up so please share with all of your emerging artist friends in NY!
Details, FAQs, and how to apply all here!
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Quinn Emanuel Artist-in-Residence Program
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Alexander Rossi: AlexanderRossi.me

S 7 Ep 1: Artist Vanessa Prager Interview
Guess who is back!?!?! - VANESSA PRAGER - who is even more generous with her spirit and knowledge the second time around. Prager created her current show Diane Rosenstein, (seriously if you're not familiar click through so you know what kind of genius we are talking to) while pregnant and she talked to us VERY SOON after having a baby!?! And she's still painting?! She goes through her career, her practice, how things evolve, how her self-esteem has evolved and the amount of GENUINE GOLD she gives us is staggering.
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Vanessa Prager - vprager.com, @vanessaprager
HOP S 3 Ep 12: Vanessa Prager First Interview!
Vanessa Prager Portraits at Diane Rosenstein
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Alexander Rossi: AlexanderRossi.me

S 6 Ep 11: RAQS (recently asked questions!)
Trying to make RAQs a thing! People have been asking things like "who gets to show at a fair?" "should I put an art fair on my cv?" "how many pieces of works should I have before a gallery will be interested?" and we tackled them in today's episode
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Alexander Rossi alexanderrossi.me
DON'T FORGET
If you're an artist- sign up to be a beta tester for TPP https://topractisepractice.com/ !

S 6 Ep 10: How do sales commissions or finders fees work?
A lot of questions coming in for how art advisors or dealers work, how they make money, what's appropriate finders fees for getting gigs from recommendations and we decided to do a break down explainer! ENJOY!
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Alexander Rossi alexanderrossi.me
DON'T FORGET
If you're an artist- sign up to be a beta tester for TPP https://topractisepractice.com/ !

S6 Ep 9: Jupiter Contemporary Founder/Director Gabriel Kilongo
It's impossible to find a place to start when you're trying to describe a conversation with Gabriel Kilongo - the Founder and Director of Miami's hottest gallery, Jupiter Contemporary. Geographically his story starts in the Democratic Republic of Congo and career wise it is in the kitchen of Brice Marden's studio washing dishes. Don't believe us? Take a listen to hear this incredible journey where Kilongo reminds us that diligence, hard work, networking, good taste and perseverance can get you where you want to go - and that the experience you get along the way will serve you more than you know in your future!
GABE RECOMMENDS:
Watching: The Watcher, The White Lotus
Reading: A Visible Man: A Memoir by Edward Enninful
Listening: Nicolas Jaar
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Gabriel Kilongo - @jupitercontemporary, jupitercontemporary.com
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Alexander Rossi alexanderrossi.me
DON'T FORGET
If you're an artist- sign up to be a beta tester for TPP https://topractisepractice.com/ !

S6 Ep8: What is an Art Fair?
Everyone is pretty familiar with the difference between a gallery and a museum, but where do art fairs fit in? With everyone in Miami (at the time of recording) Erika and Alexis decided to break it down - what is an art fair? Who goes? Who participates? And why are people flying all over the world and spending quite a bit of money to do it?
REFERENCED:
Hyde or Practise: Verona Zheng, Art Basel's Global VIP Manager
Hyde or Practise: Daniel Cheng, Chambers Fine Art
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Alexander Rossi alexanderrossi.me
DON'T FORGET
If you're an artist- sign up to be a beta tester for TPP https://topractisepractice.com/ !

S6 Ep 7: What Surprised You Most About The Art World?
This is a fresh upload- sorry our last one was reported wonky!
Our hosts Alexis and Erika talk about what surprised them most about entering into the art world, the importance of soft skills, the difficulties in networking when you're an introvert, and training yourself to engage anyway!
ERIKA RECOMMENDS:
Algebra of Happiness by Scott Galloway
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Alexander Rossi alexanderrossi.me
DON'T FORGET
If you're an artist- sign up to be a beta tester for TPP https://topractisepractice.com/ !

S6 Ep 6: Artist Mira Dancy Interview
Mira Dancy, an incredible artist based in LA, just opened a show at Night Gallery and took the time to chat with us about SO MANY THINGS! We asked her about community and finding inputs and unpacking the male gaze and what did she think was going to be the THING to make her career, but turned out to not be? It is incredible! Enjoy!
MIRA RECOMMENDS:
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Mira Dancy - Night Gallery, Chapter NY
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Alexander Rossi alexanderrossi.me
DON'T FORGET
If you're an artist- sign up to be a beta tester for TPP https://topractisepractice.com/ !

S6: Mini Episode on Tools and Kindness
In the midst of back to school, and art world season starting up, and post panini life kicking back in - scheduling is tough! That's why Alexis and Erika will be doing a few mini episodes in between the longer form interviews to keep y'all updated and filled in with the latest and greatest!
DON'T FORGET
If you're an artist- sign up to be a beta tester for TPP https://topractisepractice.com/ !
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Alexander Rossi alexanderrossi.me

S 6 Ep 5: Gallerist Liz Lidgett Interview!
When we first heard about Liz Lidgett and her gallery (Liz Lidgett Gallery) we emailed her so fast so we could pick her brain about representing emerging artists! She answered ALL OF OUR QUESTIONS! From "What does a gallery even do for an artist?" to the ever important "How do I show a gallery my work?" with incredible knowledge and detail! How do you network, can you do it on instagram, in person? ALL OF THESE ANSWERED! It's golden and so excited to share with you!
LIZ RECOMMENDS:
Nonfiction: 4000 Weeks
Fiction: Lessons in Chemistry
TV: Only Murders in the Building
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Liz Lidgett - @lizlidgett, @lizlidgettgallery, lizlidgett.com
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/

S 6 Ep 4: Artist/Content Creator Brett Park (BrettPaint!) Interview!
=More questions about social media going in and we had to go to the source! Brett Park (AKA BRETTPAINT 500k followers on TikTok, NBD) talks about how he's balancing it all as a student, artist, and content creator across many platforms. What is natural, what's performative, how does he do it, and how LONG has he been doing it?! The 10-year overnight success thing is real y'all. He doles out incredible advice for artists, students, and aspiring content creators, it's so generous and wonderful! TUNE IN NOW!
BRETT RECOMMENDS:
Artist Sasha Gordon
Asking questions at galleries
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET Brett Park -
TT: @BrettPaint, Insta @BrettPaint, YT @BrettPaint
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com S
lack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com Music by Alexander Rossi: alexanderrossi.me

Quick Update!
Sorry for the absence, life happens, next week we will be back to our regularly scheduled programming!
In the meantime if you're an artist- sign up to be a beta tester for TPP https://topractisepractice.com/ !

S 6 Ep 3: The Art of Making It Producer Debi Wisch
Watching the trailer for the film, The Art of Making It, is like a trip into the FAQs hottest topic, HOW DO YOU MAKE IT?! Talking to Debi Wisch, we learned not only how she got into filmmaking, but what is interesting about this topic and why make this movie at all? Also, what did she learn making it (heh) and what can we learn from the swath of people they talked to - from artists like Jenna Gribbon to friend of the pod Stefan Simchowitz and internet sensation Jerry Gogosian! It's full of such great info for new and established artists and arts professionals alike!
STREAM THE ART OF MAKING IT NOW!
DEBI RECOMMENDS:
Talking to: Liz Plank about upcoming film “Not So Special"
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Debi Wisch - @debiwisch, theartofmakingitfilm.com
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/

S6 Ep2: Artist Marketing Consultant Alyssa Weyland
One of the #1 FAQs we get is "How do I market myself?" quickly followed by "How do I do social media?" so we went to the source! Alyssa Weyland is a freelance marketing consultant for ARTISTS! That is the specialty and the incredible info we get...it's so good! We go over the different platforms, how to adapt, mailing lists, conversion rates, even ads! No stone is left unturned and honestly, Alexis and Erika walked away with a few tips for their own social media engagements as well!
RECOMMENDATIONS
Book: Dostoyevsky The Devils
Pod: The Successful Artist Podcast
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Alyssa Weyland - insta: @alyssaweyland.consulting tt: @alyssa.w.consulting
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, https://topractisepractice.com/
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Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/

S6 Ep1: Content Creator and Artist Sara Alawadhi
Listen in real time as Alexis has her mind blown when Sara Alawadhi, aka @goldendinars on TikTok >75k followers, tells her she is only 17! Erika and Alexis both found her the usual way on TT - via the FYP page - and love her combination art, memes, art history, book reviews, and tutorials! Her wide-range approach has garnered her over 5.4 Billion (WITH A B!) views! We go over how she got started and advice for anyone who needs help getting started on social media! It's incredibly generous and thorough and you will also be surprised that she is only 17! She is wise and poised beyond her years and the advice is evergreen! Enjoy!
RECOMMENDATIONS
Shows: Peaky Blinders, Stranger Things
Podcast: Modern Art Notes
Book: Seeing is forgetting the name of the thing one sees by Lawrence Weschler
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Sara Alawadhi: tt: @goldendinars, insta: @goldendinars
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, https://topractisepractice.com/
sign up for the newsletter - click here!
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/

Re-release: Bronwyn Mauldin, Director of Research and Evaluation for Los Angeles County Dept of Arts and Culture
Always a good time to talk about artists and activism, hence the re-release with the incredible Bronwyn Mauldin!
THIS WEEK! ALL CAPS! We talk with Bronwyn Mauldin, Director of Research and Evaluation for Los Angeles County Department of Arts and Culture, who is also an artist and activist and writer and zine maker and all around woman of our hearts and dreams! We get into the impact of covid on LA's arts community, the economy, and more! Did y'all know that the arts and culture fields make up 8% of the GDP of CA? YOU DO NOW! Want to learn more incredible things like that to impress and stun your friends and family? OF COURSE YOU DO! Tune in!
BRONWYN REFS
BRONWYN RECOMMENDS
The Beak of the Finch by Jonathan Weiner
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Bronwyn Mauldin: LA County Arts, bronwynmauldin.com
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, https://topractisepractice.com/
sign up for the newsletter - click here!
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/
AFFILIATE LINKS:
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Tik Tok Live
Erika and Alexis hosted a Tik Tok live and recorded it! Answered questions from the audience nd covered everything from unionizing and Gallery Emailing to "what if I'm an introvert?" and advocating for yourself as an artist through goal identification!
EPISODES REFERENCED
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/
AFFILIATE LINKS:
Money Bootcamp program - Use Code HOP25 for $25 Off

Re-release: Hyperallergic Founder and EIC Hrag Vartanian!
One of our longer episodes, and every minute is FILLED TO THE BRIM!
Erika and Alexis talk to Hrag Vartanian, the founder and editor in chief of Hyperallergic. A continuation of our series on motivation, Hrag discusses journalism, the art world we need to be focusing on, why Hyperallergic exists, and who’s subsidizing who! We go through who got PPPs and Alexis’s Tumblr glory days. This is an instant classic. TUNE IN AND GAIN KNOWLEDGE! HRAG RECOMMENDS: Documentary: Manufacturing Consent (1992) Documentary: Camera Person (2016) LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET Hrag Vartanian - @hragv, hyperallergic.com Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractiseapractice, www.practise-practice.com Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/

Re-Release: Art trained Associate Marriage and Family Therapist (AMFT) Camille Bien interview!
Alexis and Erika speak with Camille Bien. Trained as an installation artist, Camille used her arts education and became an Associate Marriage and Family Therapist. We talk about the traumas of art school, the endless "why's" in crits, and how we found coping mechanisms. Which incidentally is being part of a community and sharing our feelings. This is an INCREDIBLE episode for the times but also forever. How we make our choices and how we support ourselves is so critical and Camille brings amazing insight into these processes.
CAMILLE IS WATCHING:
RESOURCES:
211
Dial 211 or 211.org
This is a comprehensive resource for local communities located in The United States and Canada. Resources include mental health services, emotional and domestic abuse, veterans, and many other services
National Alliance on Mental Health
Text 741741 Dial 1-800-950-6264 or nami.org
Association of over 500 affiliates who provide support and education about mental health. NAMI provides national resources for mental health needs
Mental Health America
mhanational.org
This site provides resources for various mental health needs at varying income levels
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Camille Bien- @lovehongmina
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/

Re-Release: Detroit Art Week's Amani Olu!
BUCKLE UP GUYS THIS IS A GOOD ONE! We talk to Amani Olu, of Olu Company, IMG SRVR and Detroit Art Week and his advice on failure and hustling and money should not be ignored, I mean, look how many hats he wears! It's really incredible to talk to Olu about interacting with other humans in life and how that translates to our lives and where we can go with those experiences. We talk about what burns him up and how to get some inner peace on how to get past that! Gold guys, pure gold. TUNE IN NOW!
AMANI RECOMMENDS
Go Ahead in the Rain: Notes to a Tribe Called Quest by Hanif Abdurraqib
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Amani Olu - @amaniolu, @olucompany, Olu Company, IMG SRVR, Detroit Art Week
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/

Re-Release: Collector/Dealer Stefan Simchowitz!
To honor Stefan's new space just opened in downtown LA - here is a refresher on who this man about town is!
Erika and Alexis talk to Los Angeles dealer/collector/man of many hats Stefan Simchowitz. Tune in and find out! A continuation of our series around motives and motivations! Why does Stefan do what he does and where does he think things are going? We talk about supporting artist, broken structures that lead to inequality and in his words "bad Simco mythology"!
Stefan recommends:
The Red Scare Podcast
Brad Troemel Instagram
The Deficit Myth by Stephanie Kelton
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Stefan Simchowitz - @stefansimchowitz, Simcos Club
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/

Trailer: Season 6 FAQS!
Next season is all about answering your questions! Enter in the form above and we will find the guests to answer them the best!
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractiseapractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Feedback: https://topractisepractice.com/research-sign-up/
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/

S 5 Ep 14: Arts Journalist Reena Devi!
We actually recorded this episode with the incomparable Reena Devi back in Christmas 2020 but, the audio was misplaced! Reena is busy! We couldn't get her back! We mourned! THEN Alexis did some digital spring cleaning and found it - so here we go! In this INCREDIBLY nourishing episode, Reena talks about the importance of research, comprehensive context and why she is like the Hulk...but not in the way you think!
REENA REFERENCES:
Hyperallergic: What an Art Fair in Jakarta Could Mean for the Southeast Asia Art Scene
The Ink: The Sacklers' Group Chat of Pain
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Reena Devi - Reena Devi Writes, @reena_meets_world
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractiseapractice, www.practise-practice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/

Re-Release: Artist/Educator Natasha Caruana!
No joke, Natasha changed the way Alexis approaches networking. A full shift in the way she looks and approaches it, she also has a THRIVING artist community on insta called @workshowgrow where resources and advice from artists and professionals ABOUND! Tune in!
NETWORKING! Erika and Alexis talk to Natasha Caruana, an incredible artist and educator out of London! Caruana has been utilizing the internet and her network for years and shares that experience with you! Her insight and advice is invaluable and she honestly changed the way Alexis views reaching out. She is also the reason Alexis and Erika met! Kismet! What could she do for you? Now is the time, no matter what line of work/passion you are in to gain some great tools!
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Natasha Caruana - @natashacaruana @workshowgrow, natashacaruana.com
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractiseapractice, www.practise-practice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/

5.13: Nathalie Quagliotto of The Art List
Have you ever looked at those round ups of grants or residency or other artist opportunities and think "this isn't a lot of opportunities" or "these are all kind of whack"? So did Nathalie Quagliotto and she decided to do something about it! She started an email list (you can sign up here!) and puts together and sends out REGULARLY hundreds of opportunities, culled, curated, sifted, and color coded so everyone can see how many, where, and not a dud among them! It's an incredible service, she's an incredible human, and we are ALL VERY LUCKY that she decided to take this on for us! Listen in and FREAK OUT!
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Nathalie Quagliotto - NathalieQuagliotto.com, @pilotartlist
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractiseapractice, www.practise-practice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/

Re-Release: Executive Director Sue Bell Yank!
The incomparable Sue Bell Yank has just started as the Executive Director of Clockshop, an arts and culture organization that seeks to generate social change through the transformation of public space. And while there is never a bad time to revisit this great convo, we couldn't think of a better one than now!
Erika and Alexis speak with Sue Bell Yank, Deputy Director of 18th Street Arts, formerly of OWN and the Hammer, and an all around awesome smart lady with very soothing voice. We talk about the importance of arts education from a young age, funding, civil projects, community engagement and LARPing. She also has an incredible podcast, Paved Paradise, about the history of housing disparity in Los Angeles that we discuss, and it's a treat to hear about the behind the scenes! This is an exceptionally inspiring one! I mean look below and bask in the RANGE!
SUE REFERENCED:
Minneapolis - Feminist Strip Club/Sex Workers Organizing Project
SUE RECOMMENDS:
Podcast: Imaginary Worlds
Podcast: Rude Tales of Magic
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Sue Bell Yank - SueBellYank.com, PavedParadisePodcast.com, @clockshopla
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractiseapractice, www.practise-practice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/

5.12: Deputy Director of Exhibitions and Collections Paul Loya
This week we talk with Long Beach Museum's Paul Loya! He's a curator, with an incredible multifaceted history across LA and the US and it is so wonderful to pick his brain about all things art, museums, programming, curating for your community and more! We also really get into the power of just ONE exhibition that can change your life and how important it is to get kids into museums, how to consume as much art as efficiently as possible and how vital it is to take care of ourselves while maintaining necessary relationships! Tune in!!
PAUL REFERENCES:
Jasper Johns to Jeff Koons: Four Decades of Art From The Broad Collection
Book: Chaos: Charles Manson, The CIA, and the Secret History of the Sixties
Filmage: The Story of Descendents/ALL
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Paul Loya - @paulloya, lbma.org
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/
AFFILIATE LINKS:
Money Bootcamp program - Use Code HOP25 for $25 Off

Re-Release: Art World Recruiter Sarah Murkett interview!
Alexis and Erika speak with Art World Recruiter Sarah Murkett, founder of Murk & Co, this week. Sarah is super generous with her knowledge! Going over what she does, what she looks for, what her clients look for and how to get your best foot through the door! We cover everything from references to resumes and professionalism to learning curves! What do you need to have prepared for your job search? Sarah tells us! Join us for a great episode full of incredible information and FUN HYPOTHETICALS! AND TAROT! Enjoy!!
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS/GUESTS UPON THE INTERNET
Sarah Murkett - Murk & Co
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/

5.11: Director of Education and Public Programs Melissa Lee!
We have an INCREDIBLE episode for you! Melissa Lee, Director of Education and Public Programs at Vancouver Art Gallery, is here to talk to us about all things programming during a pandemic, the difference between Hong Kong and Vancouver, cooking in the museum and what is a Social Practice Curator! What is that? We didn't know and we get into it, it's incredible!
MELISSA REFERENCES:
Algorithms of Oppression by Safiya Noble
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Melissa Lee - Vancouver Art Gallery , @VanArtGallery
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/
AFFILIATE LINKS:
Money Bootcamp program - Use Code HOP25 for $25 Off

Re-Release: Art Litigator Luke Nikas Interview!
ENCORE EPISODE! We get so many questions re: legal art stuff so we thought it was a good idea to release this ep with, no joke, one of the world's preeminent art ligitagors! Don't believe us? Google him.
Erika and Alexis speak with Luke Nikas, a partner at Quinn Emanuel's NY office and Co-Chair of the firm's Art Litigation and Disputes Practice. He takes us through the evolution of Art Litigation over the last 20 years and why it has exploded in the way it has. Also, what is litigation? What is litigatable?* What are your rights to your images and works as an artist and how can you protect yourself before and after the creation of your work? It's an INCREDIBLY educational episode regarding the tangential legal issues that surround the art world and everyone should listen, because it's more than either of the host's knew about and you're probably more protected than you thought. Bookmark this one, because if you don't need it now, you will in the future!
*Did Alexis make up the word litigatable? The autocorrect on this typing says no, but her enthusiasm in the episode says yes!
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS/GUESTS UPON THE INTERNET
Luke Nikas - Quinn Emanuel - Luke Nikas
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractiseapractice, www.practise-practice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com

S5 Ep 10: Co-founder of The Honey Pump Suzana Poghosyan
Heads up, a few little audio glitches but that is the price to pay for podding on the internet! Thanks for your patience and understanding!
Suzana Poghosyan looked at the art world and thought, "some of this is broken", and instead of moving on decided to do something about it! She co-founded The Honey Pump, a visual arts agency that would connect artists with projects and they are making things happen. Trained as an artist and and arts admin (MFA during a pandemic, no bigs) and cutting her teeth in Leo Villareal's studio, who better to take on the art world? Literally no one if you ask us! Listen in for incredible inspiration and info on how to get going through struggles and taking on systemic problems head on!
SUZANA RECOMMENDS:
Lady Gaga - You just need that one person!
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Suzana Poghosyan - @thehoneypump_, @suzanapoghosyan
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/
AFFILIATE LINKS:
Money Bootcamp program - Use Code HOP25 for $25 Off

Re-Release: Interview with Artist and Disability Activist Sharona Franklin!
Strap in guys, we have an incredible interview with multimedia artist and disability activist Sharona Franklin! We'll get it out of the way and say yes, we do talk about how she (one artist, disabled body, in Canada) is taking on Gucci! We also talk about community, support, teachers, education in general, access and a whole mess of incredible topics. When you get to the end you'll see how we had to pull the cord b/c we could keep talking to her forever. She is frank and honest and smart and candid about the realities of her life and work and I (alexis) can guarantee listening to this will galvanize something in you for the better. Honestly. Also, Sharona is moving and as you'll hear everything is more difficult for her so if you have a few bucks you could throw her way, it would be much appreciated. RISING TIDE LIFTS ALL BOATS Y'ALL!
Donate to Sharona: paypal.me/starseeded
SHARONA RECOMMENDS:
Don't Worry, He Won't Get Far on Foot
The Invisible Rainbow: A History of Electricity and Life
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Sharona Franklin - @star_seeded, @paid.technologies, @hot.crip, @disabled_personals
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/
AFFILIATE LINKS:
Money Bootcamp program - Use Code HOP25 for $25 Off

S 5 Ep 9: Verona Zeng, Art Basel's Global VIP Manager
This week Alexis and Erika speak with Verona Zeng the Global VIP Manager from Art Basel! Fresh off Art Basel Miami, she generously shares with us the importance of pivoting and being nimble in the face of adjustments, the constant nature of the art fair business and how instagram impacts her mental health! A truly global participant in the art world, her perspective is invaluable and her introspection is aspirational!
VERONA RECOMMENDS:
Nature
Astrology
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Verona Zeng - @veronazeng, Art Basel
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/
AFFILIATE LINKS:
Money Bootcamp program - Use Code HOP25 for $25 Off

Re-release: Arts Professional Jane McCarthy Interview!
This week Alexis and Erika speak with Arts Professional Jane McCarthy and it is a PLEASURE! Jane has a Masters, has worked with museums, galleries, artists, now at UCLA, like...could you ask for a more well-rounded and seasoned interviewee to round out Season 3? It would be a TOUGH JOB! She is eloquent and her advice is SOUND and she is in Hawaii right now riding out the quarantimes so she obviously has incredible decision making skills! Seriously though, her wisdom for biz side of art is invaluable and honestly, this is a MUST LISTEN! OK, until next season!
JANE RECOMMENDS:
Book: Sharks in the Time of Saviors by Kawai Strong Washburn
Netflix: Lupin
Podcast: Works In Progress Podcast UCLA Arts
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Jane McCarthy: @janepmc
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/
AFFILIATE LINKS:
Money Bootcamp program - Use Code HOP25 for $25 Off

S 5 Ep 8: Chambers Fine Art Daniel Chen Interview!
Daniel Chen, co-owner of Chambers Fine Art, spoke to Alexis and Erika about all things gallery/art/music in times of cov!d! Trained as a musician and owning a gallery gives Chen incredible insight into both sides of the art world: as a creator and the infrastructure for sales. The gallery had some interesting and productive changes and Daniel was able to have the time and space to make some great decisions about how he would be operating the gallery on the most fundamental levels going forward. Alexis may have convinced everyone to move to LA.
DAN REFERENCES:
Ai WeiWei 1000 Years of Joy and Sorrows
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Daniel Chen - @Shaolun, Chambers Fine Art,
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/art world conference

Re-release: Curator AJ Girard Interview!
This week we look back on our interview with curator AJ Girard! If you missed his debut exhibition Shattered Glass In LA or in Miami, don't worry! The New York Times covered it here!
Alexis and Erika spoke with curator AJ Girard this week about finding a place in the art world and what that means to him and how that journey is continuing. Why is it important to him to always be a student? What does he mean when he says "your perspective is perfect"? We are people worrying about other people forgetting Rembrandt? No one is forgetting Rembrandt! Tune in and EXPAND YOUR MIND! The generosity of his journey is definitely worth your time! Heads up - Alexis swears a lot in this one and we didn't beep it out!
AJ IS READING:
Black Futures by Kimberly Drew and Jenna Wortham
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
AJ Girard - @_AJGirard
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/art world conference

S 5 Ep 7: Political Theorist Cissie Fu!
This one is a little different for us, but the applicable thoughts Cissie Fu drops on us are the the types of gems we will be revisiting for years. Erika told Alexis Cissie is one of the smartest person she has ever met, and was she ever right! She goes over the learnings of covid and the processing And internalization and you know what...you have to listen b/c it’s honestly a disservice to try and blurb her.
CISSIE REFERENCES
Book: The History of White People - Nell Irvin Painter
On a New Years Eve - June Jordan
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/

Re-Release: We interview Creative Accountant Nick Maynard!
It's time to start thinking about getting an accountant for your 2021 taxes so it's a GOOD TIME to have a refresher on what that can look like for you as an artist/creative!
We are hitting y'all up with some more EXCITING ACCOUNTING INFO! Why? Because you can never have enough, and that isn't an exaggeration. This week we talk to Nick Maynard, who founded We Are Practice, a full service accounting firm for creatives. When is the best time to start getting your finances together for your practice/business? 10 years ago. Second best time? TODAY! How do you do it? WELL DEAR LISTENERS NICK TELLS US! Like in detail. It's incredible. Money talk around creative practices is daunting and weird and we are trying to get y'all the info you need so you can be fully protected and funded to do YOUR THING! Listen in, it's more fun than it should be and Nick answers ALL of our hypotheticals. Also talks about how to find an accountant for you!
NICK RECOMMENDATIONS: Tom Hanks
Book: Dune by Frank Herbert
Music: Adrianne Lenker
Magazine: Courier
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Nick Maynard - @wearepractice, wearepractice.com
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/
AFFILIATE LINKS: Money Bootcamp program - Use Code HOP25 for $25 Off

S5 Ep 6: The Elise Barclay Interview!
After a minor hiatus of Thanksgiving and NY Times hecticness - WE ARE BACK! Boy are we ever! We talk to Elise Barclay this week who not only curates a corporate collection (too cool) but also is a few hoops away from being a certified functional health coach and we get INTO IT! Alexis cries. In a good way, but like, we take it there! Our bodies and practices are all intertwined and it behooves us to treat it holistically and Elise is here to give us some tools and we are GRATEFUL! CAPSLOCK! EXCLAMATION POINTS!
ELISE REFERENCES
Tate Modern Anicka Yi Hyundai Commission
Book: Tiny Habits: The Small Changes That Change Everything by BJ Fogg
Book: Braiding Sweetgrass by Robin Wall Kimmerer
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Elise Barclay -@ebarcles
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/

S 5 Ep 5: The Hall Rockefeller Interview!
Y'ALL!!! We chatted with the incredible Hall Rockefeller, founder of Less Than Half, about expanding our knowledge, learnings from COVID times, and confidently pivoting! We all know how hard it is to get going on a project only to find something new and think "Oh no, do I have to change direction?" well, that is a feeling Rockefeller knows ALL TOO WELL, and she navigates them not only with confidence, but EXCITED! Join us as we dive in to learn more of that magic so we can swerve with verve too!
HALL REFERENCES
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Hall Rockefeller - @all.the.lady.artists , lessthanhalf.org
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/

Season 3 Episode 7: Public Relations Maven Jessie Cohen Interview!
Alexis and Erika speak with PR wiz Jessie Cohen about how PR works in the arts/creative industries! What does it mean to be resilient, can you become more resilient (spoiler alert: yes!), how to pitch your projects and how to write an email! Understanding the big, bad, media machine we are all working around or within is vital to your practice and Jessie is generous with her insight and wisdom! Tune in and get ready to level your PR game up in 2021!
JESSIE RECOMMENDATIONS:
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Jessie Cohen - jessieiscohen.com, info@jessieiscohen.com
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/art world conference

Re-release: We interview PR Maven Jessie Cohen!!!
Alexis and Erika speak with PR wiz Jessie Cohen about how PR works in the arts/creative industries! What does it mean to be resilient, can you become more resilient (spoiler alert: yes!), how to pitch your projects and how to write an email! Understanding the big, bad, media machine we are all working around or within is vital to your practice and Jessie is generous with her insight and wisdom! Tune in and get ready to level your PR game up in 2021!
JESSIE RECOMMENDATIONS:
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Jessie Cohen - jessieiscohen.com, info@jessieiscohen.com
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/art world conference

S 5 Ep 4: Arts Social Media Strategist Hollie Hilton interview!
This week we get the download from Hollie Hilton - Social Media Strategist EXTRAORDINAIRE - about graduating during the pandemic, creating a space for herself, and helping EVERYONE navigate the potential trenches of social media. She works with everyone from artists, to galleries, to larger institutions on what their strategies should be and how to maximize their presence while also STAYING TRUE TO THEIR MISSIONS/PRACTICES! Have you ever heard of anything so radical? She says you don't have to be on FB or Tik Tok if you don't want! It's great! Learn these tricks and more covid learnings nowwww!
HOLLIE REFERENCES
Frankly Green Web - https://www.franklygreenwebb.com/who-we-are/
Birmingham Museum - https://www.birminghammuseums.org.uk/bmag
Black Country Living Museum - https://bclm.com/
Reddit GLAM (galleries libraries art museum)
Squid Game
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Hollie Hilton - @freelancehollie, freelancehollie.com
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/
Sponsorships: off for this episode

Re-release: Artist Kennedy Yanko Interview!
If you've been following Kennedy since before our interview or after you'll know she is doing incredible things! More shows! NFTs! Curating! Going to take this opportunity to brag on her brilliant brain and share this episode again in case you haven't listened OR in case you need a refresher!
Alexis and Erika speak with artist Kennedy Yanko. If you're like many of us who are looking for some grounded and cathartic convo during this time of uncertainty, this episode is TLC for the creative mind. Have you ever wondered what is it like to have two shows on two different continents in the fall of 2020? How about tips on how to start your day in the studio? Or what her best advice is for a younger self? What got her through tough times? You're in such luck, because we have the answers to these AND MORE! Enjoy!
KENNEDY RECOMMENDS
Podcast: MOMUS
Podcast: How I Built This
Book: Intimacy
Documentary: The Social Dilemma
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Kennedy Yanko - @kennedyyanko, kennedyyanko.com
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractisepractice, www.topractisepractice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/

S 5 Ep 3: The Dana Kopel Interview!
Minutes after reading Dana Kopel's incredible article for The Baffler Against Artsploitation we knew we had to talk to her, see how she's doing, what she's learned, and if she would share with us these thoughts and we were lucky enough that she said YES! If you haven't read the article, click through and do a quick read, it is an incredible breakdown of what is happening at New Museum specifically, but also in the art world in general in regards to labor practices. Then, listen to her share more, THEN READ MORE FROM HER - link below - she's fantastic! Enjoy!
Dana Recommends:
Book: The cultural front by Michael Denning
TV Show: Love Island
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Dana Kopel - @decafdana, danakopel.com
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractiseapractice, www.practise-practice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/

BONUS EPISODE: Season 2 Episode 1: Exhibition Designer/Project Manager Stephanie Willsey Interview!
To celebrate the opening of the Academy Museum here in LA we are putting out our incredible episode with Stephanie Willsey, who is the Exhibition Designer/Project Manager!
Welcome to Season 2 Episode 1! Erika and Alexis speak with Stephanie Willsey, currently a project manager at the soon to be opened Academy Museum, also an artist and a designer for Doug Aitken Workshop. Stephanie is one of the people who makes things happen behind the curtains! She sheds light on the economy of art and the environments and communities built, how limitations can be opportunities and how looking around in your own neighborhood can open your mind to new things! Season 2 is starting off with a BANG! She's incredibly generous with her journey and her experiences, enjoy!!
STEPHANIE RECOMMENDS:
Book: So You Want to Talk About Race by Ijeoma Oluo
LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET
Stephanie Willsey - Instagram: @will_sea, Twitter: @s_willsey
Alexis Hyde - @hydeordie, alexishyde.com
Dr. Erika Wong; - @topractiseapractice, www.practise-practice.com
Slack channel: topractiseapractice.slack.com
Email us: hydeorpractise@gmail.com
Music by Cheap TV - @cheaptv_official, https://cheaptvmusic.com/