
Credentialing Insights: An I.C.E. Podcast
By Institute for Credentialing Excellence

Credentialing Insights: An I.C.E. PodcastMay 31, 2023

Certificate vs. Certification: Considerations for the Final Decision
Episode Number: 9
Episode Description:
Cynthia Allen, ICE-CCP, Jennifer Naughton, MEd, CAE, ICE-CCP, SPHR, and Rachel Roberts, MPH, CHES, weigh in on the strategic decision-making involved in developing a stackable assessment-based credential versus a certification, specifically using the Institute for Healthcare Advancement’s (IHA’s) Health Literacy Specialist Program as s case study.
Speakers:
Cynthia Allen, ICE-CCP, SeaCrest Jennifer Naughton, MEd, CAE, ICE-CCP, SPHR, Naughton Consulting, LLC Rachel Roberts, MPH, CHES, Institute for Healthcare AdvancementRelated Resources: Find additional resources on stackable credentials here: https://www.credentialinginsights.org/Article/5-things-you-should-know-about-stackable-credentials-1
Series Description:
Credentialing Insights: An I.C.E. Podcast dives in to thought-provoking discussions with subject matter experts on the topics that matter most to the credentialing community.

Diversity, Equity & Inclusion in Credentialing
Episode Number: 8
Episode Description:
Learn about diversity, equity and inclusion (DE&I) initiatives that I.C.E. has recently engaged in, such as the I.C.E. DE&I Statement and the I.C.E. Coffee Chat series. Also hear from two I.C.E. members and how their organizations have approached DE&I, the programs they've implemented and the impact it's had so far on their DE&I journey.
Speakers:
Mark C. Franco, ICE-CCP; Whiteford Taylor & Preston LLP; Vice Chair, I.C.E. DE&I Committee (Host) Todd Galati, MA; American Council on Exercise JoAnne Konick-McMahan, MSN, RN, PCCN-K; ACN Certification Corporation Tracy Lofty, MSA, CAE; International Board of Heart Rhythm Examiners; Chair, I.C.E. DE&I Committee (Host)Related Resources:
Find additional I.C.E. DE&I resources here: https://www.credentialingexcellence.org/About/Diversity-Equity-and-Inclusion
Series Description:
Credentialing Insights: An I.C.E. Podcast dives in to thought-provoking discussions with subject matter experts on the topics that matter most to the credentialing community.

A Discussion With the Authors of Credentialing Understanding the Problems. Identify the Opportunities. Create the Solutions.
Episode Number: 7
Episode Description:
Take a deep dive into the book “Credentialing: Understanding the Problems. Identify the Opportunities. Create the Solutions.” I.C.E. member Carla Caro, MA, chats with authors Michelle Van Noy, PhD, and Paul Gaston, PhD, on topics highlighted in their book, including how credentialing organizations can more effectively partner with academic programs, how community colleges are using credentialing and how apprenticeship programs are gaining in popularity.
Speakers:
Carla Caro, MA, Program Director, Credentialing Services, ACT (Host)
Paul Gaston, PhD, Higher Education Consultant
Michelle Van Noy, PhD, Director, Education and Employment Research Center, School of Management and Labor Relations, Rutgers University
Related Resources:
Credentialing: Understanding the Problems. Identify the Opportunities. Create the SolutionsSeries Description:
Credentialing Insights: An I.C.E. Podcast dives in to thought-provoking discussions with subject matter experts on the topics that matter most to the credentialing community.

Assessment-based Certificate Accreditation
Episode Number: 6
Episode Description:
What is an assessment-based certificate program and why should it be accredited? Hear from three members of I.C.E.’s Assessment-based Certificate Accreditation Council (ACAC) as they discuss accreditation programs, why it’s a good idea to get accredited and what the pitfalls are for many applicants.
Speakers:
Bobbi Losee Vernon, MA, ICE-CCP, Senior Learning Architect, Global Skills X-Change
Fae Mellichamp, Psychometrician, Mellichamp Consulting
Heather Rich, MPA, ICE-CCP, Executive Director, American Board of Certification for Gastroenterology Nurses (host)
Series Description:
Credentialing Insights: An I.C.E. Podcast dives in to thought-provoking discussions with subject matter experts on the topics that matter most to the credentialing community.

Credential As You Go Initiative
Episode Number: 5
Episode Description:
What is the Credential As You Go (CAYG) movement? What does it mean to have a lifelong learning orientation to credentialing? What are incremental credentialing concepts? CAYG expert leaders Nan Travers and Holly Zanville answer these questions and chat with I.C.E. Board Member Bill West about what credentialing bodies need to understand about this game changing perspective.
Speakers:
Nan Travers, PhD, Director for the Center for Leadership in Credentialing Learning, SUNY Empire State College
Bill West, MBA, I.C.E. Board Member (host)
Holly Zanville, PhD, Research Professor and Co-director of the Program on Skills, Credentials & Workforce Policy, George Washington University
Series Description:
Credentialing Insights: An I.C.E. Podcast dives in to thought-provoking discussions with subject matter experts on the topics that matter most to the credentialing community.

Connecting With Employers on the Value of Certification
Episode Number: 4
Episode Description:
Do you know how to talk with your employer audience on the importance and value of your certification? Join members of the I.C.E. External Stakeholders Working Group (ESWG) as they share how several credentialing organizations are working with employers to promote the value of certification as well as highlights from the group's 2021 Value of Certification report (case studies on working with employer audiences).
Speakers:
Stephanie Dille, Chief Marketing Officer, Meazure Learning (host)
Danielle Sadighi, BFA, Vice President of Marketing and Sales, American Medical Certification Association
Shelby Williamson, MBA, ICE-CCP, Exam Development Manager, National Strength and Conditioning Association
Related Resource:
The ESWG was charged with creating a resource for the credentialing community that highlighted the attempts (successful or not) by organizations reaching out to the profession’s employer stakeholder audience. This task force worked diligently to produce the 2021 Value of Certification report, which consists of case studies on working with employer audiences.
Series Description:
Credentialing Insights: An I.C.E. Podcast dives in to thought-provoking discussions with subject matter experts on the topics that matter most to the credentialing community.

Modernizing the Credentialing Model
Episode Number: 3
Episode Description:
Technology, the shifting workforce and customer demographics are fueling innovation and altering business conditions. Join Shannon Carter, EdD, CAE, and Dale. R. Cyr, MBA, CAE, in a conversation on how these factors are changing the landscape of credentialing and what we can do to meet the challenges and opportunities they present.
Speakers:
Shannon Carter, EdD, CAE, Chief Strategy Officer, American College of Veterinary Internal Medicine (host)
Dale R. Cyr, MBA, CAE, CEO and Executive Director, Inteleos
Series Description:
Credentialing Insights: An I.C.E. Podcast dives in to thought-provoking discussions with subject matter experts on the topics that matter most to the credentialing community.
This podcast episode transcript can be accessed on the Credentialing Insights page here: https://www.credentialinginsights.org/Article/ice-podcast-episode-3-modernizing-the-credentialing-model-1

Competency-Based Credentialing: An Alternative to Job Analysis
Episode Number: 2
Episode Description:
Compared to a job analysis, which mainly focuses on developing specifications for an examination, a competency-based program provides a purpose for a credential and describes the level of performance expected. In episode two of Credentialing Insights: An I.C.E. Podcast, Terri Hinkley, EdD, MBA, BScN, RN, CAE (Medical-Surgical Nursing Certification Board), and John Wickett, PhD (Wickett Measurement Services), take a deep dive into competency-based programs, discussing what they can do for your organization and industries as a whole.
Speakers:
Terri Hinkley, EdD, MBA, BScN, RN, CAE, CEO, Medical-Surgical Nursing Certification Board (moderator)
John Wickett, PhD, Principal, Wickett Measurement Services
Series Description:
Credentialing Insights: An I.C.E. Podcast dives in to thought-provoking discussions with subject matter experts on the topics that matter most to the credentialing community.
This podcast episode transcript can be accessed on the Credentialing Insights page here: https://www.credentialinginsights.org/Article/ice-podcast-episode-2-competency-based-credentialing-an-alternative-to-job-analysis-1

Demystifying Psychometrics
Episode Number: 1
Episode Description:
Psychometrics spans a wide range of fields — from education and licensure to certifications and certificates. In this episode of Credentialing Insights: An I.C.E. Podcast, Chad Buckendahl, PhD (ACS Ventures), Isabelle Gonthier, PhD (PSI Services) and Amin Saiar, PhD (Board of Pharmacy Specialties) discuss psychometrics from both program and consultant/vender viewpoints, giving insights into what it is, how it can be implemented and how psychometricians can effectively work with stakeholders.
Speakers:
Chad Buckendahl, PhD, Partner, ACS Ventures (moderator)
Isabelle Gonthier, PhD, Senior Vice President, PSI Services LLC
Amin Saiar, PhD, Senior Director, Board of Pharmacy Specialties
Series Description:
Credentialing Insights: An I.C.E. Podcast dives in to thought-provoking discussions with subject matter experts on the topics that matter most to the credentialing community.
This podcast episode transcript can be accessed on the Credentialing Insights page here: https://www.credentialinginsights.org/Article/ice-podcast-episode-1-demystifying-psychometrics-1