
The ID and the Ego
By Brandon Poulliot

The ID and the EgoJan 06, 2021

Episode 013: Interaction Exaction
This one has been a long time in the making (literally). We are so happy to welcome Dr. Barbara Lockee to The ID and the Ego to talk a bit about interaction. Instructional designers always ask faculty to account for and increase the interaction in their courses, but what does that really mean for instruction? From discussion boards to erm...sheep husbandry, we cover the gamut of interaction possibilities and why you might want to take a minute to think about your next course design or conversation with a faculty member. Please support our podcast with reviews and ratings, suggestions to our form (below) or email address, or by using our listener support link on our Anchor page.]
Show Notes
The ID and the Ego Form for All Your Needs (Comments, Suggestions, etc…)
Asynchronous Classes Must Be The Last Resort For Professors
Project Outbreak Slides and Description
Articles with/by Barb:
The Difference Between Emergency Remote Teaching and Online Learning
A couple of my fave articles about interaction that I’ve drawn from are:
Anderson, T. (2003). Getting the Mix Right Again: An Updated and Theoretical Rationale for Interaction. The International Review of Research in Open and Distributed Learning, 4(2). https://doi.org/10.19173/irrodl.v4i2.149
Gavora, M., & Hannafin, M. (1993). Interaction strategies and emerging technologies. ERIC Document ED363276. https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/ED363276.pdf
A few sources of inspiration for pedagogical interaction:
Shank, P. (2011). Ideas for synchronous and social learning. (Chapter 3). The online learning idea book (Vol. 2). O'Reilly Safari Learning Platform: Academic edition.
Cyrs, T. E., & Conway, E. D. (1997). Engaging students at field sites: Activities and exercises (pp. 143-177). In Teaching at a distance with the merging technologies: An instructional systems approach. Center for Educational Development.

Episode 012: Trust Issues
Hello again everyone! After an unplanned hiatus due to workload and personal events, we are BACK. This episode we're talking about trust. How do you define trust in a professional relationship as an ID? What does it mean to your work and the courses you build and design with subject matter experts and faculty members? Does it really matter that much? The editor of the new book The Learner-Centered Instructional Designer, Jerod Quinn, joins us to drop some knowledge on why trust is a cornerstone of any project you undertake in this field.
Show Notes
- The Learner-Centered Instructional Designer: https://styluspub.presswarehouse.com/browse/book/9781642670417/The-Learner-Centered-Instructional-Designer
- Discount Code for TIDE Listeners: LCID30 (30% off and free shipping)
- Intentional Futures, 2016: https://intentionalfutures.com/static/instructional-design-in-higher-education-report-5129d9d1e6c988c254567f91f3ab0d2c.pdf
- Most thoughtful (and inoffensive) summary on why learning styles are a myth: https://cft.vanderbilt.edu/guides-sub-pages/learning-styles-preferences/
- How to get hold of Jerod: quinnje@missouri.edu and @jquinnID

Episode 011: Building Relationships
For the first time in the history of this podcast, I am not running behind! In this episode, Rebecca sings and Brandon struggles to form a cohesive thought. We're talking about building relationships during your career! Our focus in this episode is the mentor/mentee relationship where Dr. Reese and I both have a little bit of experience (and a lot of that experience in common...). From seeking out a mentor to being one yourself and why mentoring is an important aspect of instructional design and technology, we cover as much as we can in our short time together. Listen, share, rate and review, and if you like what you hear, consider supporting our podcast so we can continue to make great content.
Recorded on Martin Luther King, Jr. Day 2021 - Martin Luther King, Jr. will always live in history as one of the most influential civil rights activists in the United States. He was a leader in the movement to end racial segregation and his achievements transcend time. On the day of this recording, we celebrate MLK day as a reminder to have gratitude for his accomplishments for our country and world. This day we are reminded once again of the struggles many Black Americans faced and continue to face today. It is seen as a day to promote equal rights for all Americans and should be celebrated every day.
Please read the open letter written by Theodosia Cook (University of Colorado's Chief Diversity Officer) to Dr. King.
Show Notes

Episode 010: Highlighting Communities of Practice
On this episode, Brandon says "uh" for the 100,000th time since starting the podcast! But really, we're talking communities of practice. I have four very special guests from Pedagome, a community of practice grown organically by some excellent women in the field of instructional design. On the podcast are Susannah Simmons, an Online Learning Experience Designer at Colorado School of Mines; Lainie Hoffman, a Senior Instructional Designer at University of Colorado; La Dawna Minnis, a Lead Instructional Designer at University of California Irvine; and Laura Widenor, an Instructional Designer at Kansas State University. All four have been integral to the growth and development of Pedagome and share their insight about the community itself as well as on communities of practice. Join us for the first panel discussion we've ever had and a truly interesting discussion!
If you're interested in joining the community, visit the Pedagome website and start your journey!

Episode 009: Evil Big Brother
The first episode of the new year! Happy new year to everyone and we have a great conversation with Shea Swauger to start out 2021. We're covering the iniquities of proctoring and how those affect students and institutions. This is a long episode at around 90 minutes, but I tried to break it up into bite-size segments. This topic is insanely pertinent as we march toward the start of another semester that's likely to be remote learning for just about everyone, so have a listen and please, please share with your friends, colleagues, and faculty members who might benefit from a deep dive into why proctoring promotes discrimination. Show notes below!
Online proctoring is surging during COVID-19
Online proctoring platforms claim to prevent cheating. But at what cost?
But What If They Cheat? Giving Non-Proctored Online Assessments
The Best Ways to Prevent Cheating in College
Why Honor Codes Reduce Student Cheating
Exam Surveillance Tools Monitor, Record Students During Tests
The Best Algorithms Still Struggle to Recognize Black Faces
Facial-Recognition Software Might Have a Racial Bias Problem
Ed-Tech Specialist Fights Proctorio Lawsuit
Woman says she was subjected to hijab screening before exam
How to Assess Higher-Order Thinking Skills in Your Classroom
How to Make Authentic Research Experiences Widely Available
Authors:
Michelle Alexander
Safiya Noble
Ruha Benjamin
Anna Lauren Hoffmann

Episode 008: rm -rf 2020
In this episode, Rebecca gets impatient and Brandon thinks everything is interesting. I haven't entirely managed my commitment of bi-weekly episodes, but we're coming up on the end of the year and Rebecca wanted to provide a quick wrap on the year with some of our favorites. We cover IDT articles, books for work and pleasure, podcasts, movies, TV, and more. We have a lot of great shows lined up for the new year and we will be back in early January. Please rate and review our show and send us show ideas, feedback, guest connections, fan mail, hate mail, whatever you please. Happy Holidays!
Articles:
Burned Out: Stories of Compassion Fatigue - Patrice Prusko and Whitney Kilgore
The Emerging Story of Burnout in Educational Design
How to Be an Antiracist Educator: An Interview With Ibram X. Kendi
How Automated Test Proctoring Software Discriminates Against Disabled Students by Lydia X. Z. Brown
Designing Forward - Barbara Lockee
Authentic Language Learning through Telecollaboration in Online Courses - Crystal Marull and Swapna Kumar
Books:
Reach Everyone, Teach Everyone - Thomas J. Tobin and Kirsten T. Behling
Salt, Fat, Acid, Heat - Samin Nosrat
The Passion Paradox by Brad Stulberg
Hell Divers Series - Nicholas Sansbury Smith
A Wizard of Earthsea: The Earthsea Cycle Book 1 - Ursula K. LeGuin
Speech Sounds - Octavia Butler
Podcasts:
- Behind the Police - Robert Evans and Propaganda
- Ear Hustle - Nigel Poor and Earlonne Woods
- Cabinet of Curiosities - Aaron Mahnke
- It’s Been a Minute - Sam Sanders ('Model Minority' Stereotype ep)
Movies: Midsommar, Hereditary, The Call
TV/Web: Uncomfortable Conversations with a Black Man, The Midnight Gospel, Kingdom, Dark, The Expanse

Episode 007: Project (Mis)management
We're talking project management this week! There's a lot of ground to cover and this is a fairly long episode, but if you have ever had to deal with a project that seems never-ending or have looked at a contract that boggles the mind, this episode is for you! Check out the resources below for more information.
- Project Management Absolute Beginner’s Guide by Greg Horine
- Project Management for Instructional Designers
- PMI: What is Project Management?
- Wrike: The Top Project Management Methodologies
- Notion
- The Project Management Triangle

Episode 006: The Prison to School Pipeline
We're back again! This week I'm excited to share a conversation with our friend Shea Swauger about the prison to school pipeline of ed tech. We delve into a few topics surrounding the two-way commerce of discrimination in education, from the intentional to the unintentional. The idea of the school to prison pipeline, a concept of how certain policies (see: zero tolerance) interfere with the education of students of color and put them on the path to incarceration, but schools also import technology and policies developed or perfected in prisons into their classrooms and courses. This is a difficult -- but extremely important -- topic that Shea was kind enough to discuss with us. The show notes this week are copious with an amazing amount of resources, so please, dive in!
Show Notes
- Shea Swauger | libraries | technology | equity | education
- Shea Swauger Presentation: The Prison to School Pipeline of EdTech
- Michel Foucault (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)
- National Conference of State Legislatures: Felon Voting Rights
- NPR: Florida Republicans Target Efforts To Help Felons Vote
- Executive Order on Combating Race and Sex Stereotyping
- EdSurge: New Ownership for an LMS Giant: Private Equity Firm to Buy Instructure for $2 Billion
- The New York Times: The 1619 Project
- The New York Times: Why American Prisons Owe Their Cruelty to Slavery
- Adam Ruins Everything: Episode 16: The Failure of the War on Drugs
- Netflix: I Am Not Your Negro
- The OWL at Purdue: Critical Race Theory in Writing and Literature
- Vox: Intersectionality, Explained
- For more information on Critical Race Theory and Intersectionality, Kimberlé Williams Crenshaw is a prominent author with several works available on these topics.
- UC Davis: Privacy Considerations for Remote Proctoring Technology
- Temple University: Proctorio Best Practices for a Smooth Final Exam
- Inside Higher Ed: Drowned Bunnies: Part 2

Episode 005: Proctor All the Things!
We're back! This episode we're talking about proctoring, from simple programs that lock down a student's browser to the windowless room where you can't talk and get mean-mugged while you furiously scribble down your answers. We cover the different types of proctoring, some of our views on how proctoring affects students, and why you should consider redesigning multiple choice exams. I say "so" about fifty times and Rebecca finds her new plan to strike it rich.

Episode 004: Objectively Terrible
Thank you for listening! This week we broadcast from a tin can! (Sorry about the audio quality.) We're talking about learning objectives! As we head toward fall and more remote and online learning for our learners, these objectives play an insanely crucial role to defining learning for students. We answer the question: what should your students be able to do after they complete a module, your entire course, or even a program. For education, this is equivalent to "What is the meaning of life?" except the answer isn't "42". Pick a verb, a subject, and a context, and join our learning outcome sing-a-long. Seems like Thursday works better for me, but I'll work on that!
Well crap, I almost forgot the actual show notes. This is harder than it seems! Check out the links below more for more information. It's great. I promise.
Amazing video on how a programmer looks at making a PBJ with instructions from his children

Episode 003: Just a Little Needy
Holy cow, summer gets away from you sometimes (read: I'm swamped and my 4-week intensive just started plus contract work just rolled in at the same time)! I'm a little late on the draw this week, but this is a very special episode of The ID and the Ego. Today we have our very first guest, Dr. Jill Stefaniak! Rebecca, Dr. Stefaniak, and I discuss needs assessment in theory and practice in instructional design as well as how we prepare instructional design students for practicing in the real world from corporate to consulting to higher education. Dr. Stefaniak has extensive experience in the field of instructional design and is currently an Assistant Professor in the Learning, Design, and Technology program at the University of Georgia. Plus, I finally get through an episode without swearing a single time.
Dr. Stefaniak's book "Needs Assessment for Learning and Performance"

Episode 002: Apples and Oranges
We're looking at Emergency Remote Teaching vs. Online Learning this week. Still relevant as we look toward fall semesters and how we can tackle this paradigm moving forward. As campuses start to re-open, how do teacher, designers, and technologists support students in learning? How do we improve upon these new and developing models? How are these teaching models different? We address the pandemic as an impetus for changes in funding and operational models for education.
If you have questions, comments, episode ideas, or just want to reach out, email idandegopod@gmail.com.
Notes:
The Difference Between Emergency Remote Teaching and Online Learning
Dual Coding Theory: Paivio, A. (1991). Dual coding theory: Retrospect and current status. Canadian Journal of Psychology/Revue canadienne de psychologie, 45(3), 255-287. http://dx.doi.org/10.1037/h0084295
Since recording, many institutions have furthered conversations about layoffs and furloughs. Unfortunately, my institution has had to take the hard step of furloughing many employees and laying off those whose salaries were funded by revenues reduced or preempted by the pandemic.

Episode 001: Emergency Remote Teaching
A little late to the party, but we talk a bit about the impact on instructional design and technology with the closing of most, if not all, institutions of higher education. We started this podcast at the end of April and we (read: I) have been behind the 8-ball for my full-time gig. So much has happened, but I'm glad we were able to capture our thoughts and experiences. Reach out at IDandEgoPod@gmail.com if you have episode suggestions, feedback, or subjects you'd like us to talk about!