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In the Clinic with Camille

In the Clinic with Camille

By K. Camille Freeman

Short clinical tidbits with clinical herbalist and licensed nutritionist Camille Freeman, LDN. Learn more or submit question/topic requests: www.camillefreeman.com/intheclinic
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62 | Results from an Email List Experiment

In the Clinic with CamilleJun 04, 2023

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62 | Results from an Email List Experiment
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61 | Thoughts about Scarcity Marketing

61 | Thoughts about Scarcity Marketing

​If you're new to clinical practice, you might be tempted to investigate common marketing techniques to help you find more clients. 

Unfortunately, many of the strategies you'll hear about won't necessarily get you the kinds of results you're looking for.

​In this episode, I share a story about a marketing expert who recommended working scarcity into your marketing to fill up your one-on-one practice. In this case, someone I know wound up saying they had only have a limited number of spots available, even ​that wasn't the case. 

While this might seem like a ​reasonable way to encourage people to sign up, it's not a good foundation to build from.

​Starting a relationship with deception is never a good idea. You don't want to build your ​relationship with a new client on a lie, even if the client will never know the truth. 

Secondly, pushing people to sign up when they're not ready can cause a natural pushback, which can lead to them feeling manipulated or skeptical.

Even if they do decide to work with you, they're entering the relationship in a different position than if they had made the decision on their own.

Instead of pushing people, give them the space and let them know the options for working with you, including when and how they can sign up when they're ready.

​It might take longer to build your practice this way, but ​winding up with a practice build on solid values and strong relationships is worth it. 

​If you feel that deadlines are helpful for your clientele, ​play around with how you can incorporate them authentically, without making it feel like it's their last opportunity to work with you or that they'll be missing out if they don't sign up now.

​I hope these ideas are helpful as you plan out how to find new clients for your practice

Related episode: 47 | On Having Another Job


Helpful Links for Practitioners

Monday Mentoring 🌻 Camille's Weekly Practitioner Notes 💌 Herbal Observation Groups 🔍 2023 Hormone Deep Dive 🍒 Practitioner Resource page 🔦 Freebies 🎁


Transcript & notes for this episode available on the Bloom & Grow website.

May 22, 202310:26
60 | The Power of Showing Up

60 | The Power of Showing Up

Why bother to show up when you can watch the recording? 

Today, I'm sharing a simple yet often overlooked strategy for building your visibility and relationships within your community.

Finding clients and getting the word out about your practice can be a real challenge, especially when you're just starting out. It's easy to find yourself stressing over sending cold outreach emails to other practitioners or spending lots of time on social media in the hopes of building your referral network.

But there's another option that can make a huge difference: just show up for programs and classes that you're already interested in or signed up for.

What do I mean by "just show up"?

Here's an example:

If you sign up for a training or a webinar, don't just watch the recording later on at 2x speed. (Yes, I am guilty of this sometimes myself 😂).

Show up to the live sessions and participate actively in the chat or forum. Turn your camera on if you can. Engage with the presenter and/or the other attendees. Ask questions, share your thoughts and ideas, and be visible.

Instead of thinking of this merely as a way to obtain information or knowledge, understand that it is also an opportunity to build community. 

When you are actively present at these kinds of events, you start to become known as an individual. People can get a sense for who you are, how you engage with people, and what work you do. When they feel comfortable with you, they are more likely to work with you personally and to refer clients who are a good fit.  

But Camille, I'm too busy! I can't show up live. 

Of course. I get it. You can't show up to everything.

Here's my advice: choose wisely and don't sign up for 100 things.  

Only sign up for the things you're truly interested in and know you can make time for. Put them in your calendar and make them a priority. And when you do show up, be present and engaged. 

Here's something you can do even if you can't attend live (or when there isn't a live option):

This is an easy one that surprisingly few people do: follow-up.

After the session or training, send a thank-you email to the presenter or other attendees you connected with. Take the initiative to stay in touch periodically.

This same idea applies for non-event situations. If someone's newsletter is a bright spot in your day, hit reply and let them know. Podcast episode blew you away? Leave a 5-star review. Cool YouTube video that answered your question perfectly? Give it a thumbs up and leave a kind comment. Using what you learned from a specific teacher every day? Email them to say hi and thank them, even if it's been 15 years. 

You can easily make someone's day by doing these things, and it really does go a long way toward building relationships and community, which are at the core of a thriving practice. 

The short version

Your presence matters. Signing up for classes, events, newsletters, videos, etc is not only about extracting information but also presents an opportunity to build relationships. Use it. 

Helpful Links for Practitioners

Monday Mentoring 🌻 Camille's Weekly Practitioner Notes 💌 Herbal Observation Groups 🔍 2023 Hormone Deep Dive 🍒 Practitioner Resource page 🔦 Freebies 🎁


Transcript & notes for this episode available on the Bloom & Grow website.

Apr 23, 202310:23
59 | Thoughts on an ashwagandha thyrotoxicosis case report

59 | Thoughts on an ashwagandha thyrotoxicosis case report

As I was preparing for a lecture on ashwagandha (Withania somnifera), I came across a case report sharing information about a women who went to the ER with tachycardia, palpitations and other symptoms of hyperthyroidism. Her TSH was almost absent, while T4 and T3 were within normal limits. The doctors there ruled out other causes and eventually determined that she had been taking ashwagandha root extract daily instead of her regular thyroid medication for approximately 2 years after a diagnosis of hypothyroidism. They suspected this might be causing her hyperthyroid symptoms. She was asked to discontinue the ashwagandha root, and at two follow-ups her TSH began to rise, while her T3 and T4 started dropping, suggesting a return to her hypothyroid state. The physicians suspected that she was in the early stages of hyperthyroidism when she presented in the ER, due to her T3 and T4 being WNL.

Here is a copy of the case (open access!) if you'd like to check it out: Kamal HI, Patel K, Brdak A, Heffernan J, Ahmad N. Ashwagandha as a Unique Cause of Thyrotoxicosis Presenting With Supraventricular Tachycardia. Cureus. 2022 Mar 25;14(3):e23494. doi: 10.7759/cureus.23494. PMID: 35475098; PMCID: PMC9035336.

In this episode, I discuss what we can learn from this case report, and what I wish the authors had included in their case presentation. I hope you find this discussion helpful. If you have thoughts or clinical observations regarding ashwagandha and thyroid disease, I'd love to hear them!

Helpful Links for Practitioners

Monday Mentoring 🌻 Camille's Weekly Practitioner Notes 💌 Herbal Observation Groups 🔍 2023 Hormone Deep Dive 🍒 Practitioner Resource page 🔦 Freebies 🎁

Transcript & notes for this episode available on the Bloom & Grow website.

Apr 02, 202311:22
58 | Spring Dreaming & Planning Workshop
Mar 20, 202330:02
57 | Books I Use in Clinical Practice

57 | Books I Use in Clinical Practice

This podcast episode is in response to a question from Phoebe, who asked if I could share the books I most often use in my clinical work. 

Here is a (likely incomplete!) list of the herbal books I've been calling on lately: 

The
Ultimate Herbal Compendium by Kerry Bone The Herbal Formularies for Health Professionals series by Jill Stansbury The Essential Guide to Western Botanical Medicine by Christa Sinadinos Principles and Practice of Phytotherapy, 2nd ed by Kerry Bone & Simon Mills Michael Moore's books (Medicinal Plants of the Mountain West, Pacific West, and Desert & Canyon West) Botanical Medicine for Women's Health by Aviva Romm Natural Approach to Gastroenterology by Eric Yarnell

Please do note that I've collected these over time. I don't recommend that new practitioners buy all of these, nor am I implying that these are all necessary for clinicians. I recommend instead starting with a few references books, working closely with those in your practice, and expanding to a few more texts as you have the time, energy, and finances to do so. 

I'd love to hear your favorites ❤️

Transcript

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Mar 10, 202312:06
56 | Is Vitex Contraindicated in PCOS with Jillian Bar-Av
Feb 19, 202319:30
55 | Ruth Shelton on creating and running the Sacred Ally program
Feb 12, 202327:26
54 | Oren Hercz on Creating an Intermediate Herbal Program
Feb 04, 202330:12
53 | The Pay from the Heart Pricing Model

53 | The Pay from the Heart Pricing Model

I've been using a "pay from the heart" pricing model for 2 years now. When people sign up for my Monday Mentoring program, they are offered three pricing levels and asked to chose based on which is most appropriate for their situation. All three pricing levels receive the same program. In this episode, I share a bit more about what I've learned from this model and why I plan on continuing it for the foreseeable future. 

In the episode, I mentioned learning about Pay from the Heart from Mark Silver. Here is a link to his Heart of Business Community site, where you can see how he explains and thinks about this pricing model (scroll down!). 

If you have any questions about Pay from the Heart or pricing in general, I'd love to address them on a future episode. Feel free to send your question by clicking "+message" on the podcast homepage or by sending me a message through my website

⭐Caveat: Immediately after publishing this episode, I remembered that:

1) I have been using this model for 2 years, not 3. The pandemic has warped my sense of time, and

2) I *kind of* raised the price of Monday Mentoring recently, in that I used to offer a $50/month option for the noon group, which is no longer available. We've restructured and included quite a bit more in the membership for the price, and still, it is a bit of a price increase in some ways. My apologies for the lack of clarity. Maybe I'll do another episode about all of this at some point! 

Transcript of episode

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Jan 29, 202313:40
52 | Throwing (some) courses into the sea
Oct 11, 202209:22
51 | Are you ready to start a clinical practice?

51 | Are you ready to start a clinical practice?

Today, we're talking about how to know whether you're ready to start a clinical practice. As part of New Practitioner Week, I've been asking people about the hardest part of getting a clinical practice started. "Knowing if I'm ready" has been a top answer. In this episode, I share some info about how to know if you're ready and how to know if you're in the "bull in a china shop" phase 😮. If you're in the "I'm ready!" phase, come join us for New Practitioner Week. 

Oh, and if you need help with the basics of getting your practice ready to open (website, insurance, forms, etc), check out the Roots course.

Helpful Links for Practitioners

Monday Mentoring 🌻 Herbal Observation Groups 🔍 2022 GI Deep Dive 🍒 Practitioner Resource page 🔦 Freebies 🎁

Transcript

Sep 08, 202208:57
50 | No one knows what they're doing

50 | No one knows what they're doing

It's episode 50! Thanks so much for your support 💓

Today, we're talking about how there is no playbook for you to follow when creating your own practice. You build your own path, which is terrifying and also freeing. Please don't wait to get started until you know what you're doing. No one knows what they're doing. Start by taking steps forward, even if they might be wrong. Get an accountability group. Find a mentor. (Monday Mentoring is opening soon!). Join the Grow course

You won't know what to do until you try some things. You'll find out what works for you, and what doesn't work for you. Do more of what works. Keep moving forward, and the next step will become clear. 

Oh, and if you need help with the basics of getting your practice ready to open (website, insurance, forms, etc), check out the Roots course.

Helpful Links for Practitioners

Monday Mentoring 🌻 Herbal Observation Groups 🔍 2022 GI Deep Dive 🍒 Practitioner Resource page 🔦 Freebies 🎁

Transcript

Aug 13, 202212:04
49 | A follow-up visit experiment
Aug 07, 202208:20
48 | The Summer Slowdown
Jul 11, 202206:54
47 | On having another job
Jul 07, 202207:55
46 | Why I use a practice notebook
Jul 06, 202207:45
45 | The creepiness factor when you use email newsletters
Jul 05, 202209:16
44 | Hibiscus and Peanut Allergy
Jun 29, 202205:18
43 | How to eat more veggies 🥕
Jun 28, 202206:23
42 | Having your own practitioner
Jun 27, 202208:06
41 | Why you won't find negative reviews of many online courses and programs
Jun 23, 202208:31
40 | Balancing creativity and consumption
May 25, 202209:17
39 | Why You Shouldn't Create an Online Course
Apr 12, 202212:52
38 | Why I'm Not on Social Media
Mar 22, 202210:33
37 | A February Pep Talk
Feb 22, 202207:46
36 | Interview with Oren Hercz on Offering Herb Walks and Classes to Build your Practice
Feb 08, 202220:38
35 | How to Stay Calm(er) When You're Giving a Presentation with Megan Hamilton
Jan 25, 202218:44
34 | When Your Own Health Makes You Doubt Your Ability to Work with Others
Jan 13, 202208:34
33 | Why I Don't Do Annual Planning in December
Dec 13, 202107:15
32 | Do You Need to Prune Your Offers?
Nov 22, 202107:50
31 | When It Doesn't Help to Compare
Nov 08, 202107:10
30 | Grounding and Centering before a Client with Very Little Time
Oct 18, 202107:55
29 | Thoughts on the COVID Vaccine and Pregnancy/Fertility
Oct 11, 202110:13
28 | Thoughts on Quarterly Taxes

28 | Thoughts on Quarterly Taxes

In this teeny-tiny episode, I discuss how to think about quarterly taxes so that it's not quite so painful to send in those checks every few months. 

Resources Mentioned

Happy Money by Ken Honda My Roots course just re-opened. If you're getting started & need help setting up your practice (insurance, forms, scheduling, etc), come and join us!

Not sure how much you should be setting aside for taxes? Check out Episode 14 | How to Handle Income from your Practice

Transcript & notes available on my website.

Sep 21, 202105:17
27 | Why I Spend Money Every Month on a Business Mentor
Aug 06, 202108:33
26 | Thoughts on the New OpenNotes Rules for Licensed Practitioners
Jul 02, 202110:16
25 | Making Peace with Not Running an Apothecary
Jun 01, 202107:03
24 | Do You Need a Business Plan?
May 05, 202106:22
23 | Why Having Your Clients Buy Herbs on Amazon May Not be a Good Idea
Apr 23, 202132:02
22 | Should You Charge Extra for Payment Plans?
Apr 20, 202106:42
21 | Questions to Ask Before You Buy that Program or Course
Mar 21, 202113:25
20 | Don't Overlook This Simple Way to Find New Clients
Mar 17, 202107:25
19 | The Ovaries Need the Uterus
Mar 12, 202109:32
18 | Be Mindful About Going Over Time During Your Consults
Mar 03, 202109:31
17 | Reflections on Publishing Research

17 | Reflections on Publishing Research

A paper I've been working on for years (!) has finally been published. Hear more about the research/publication process in this episode, and check out the abstract on PubMed. 

Here's the full citation: 

Cherpak-Castagna,  C. E., Gafton, E. N., Nault, D., Van Lare, S. J., & Freeman, K. C.  (2021). Cross-Sectional Survey of Graduate Clinical Nutrition Students Describing Dietary Choices and Recommendations. Journal of the American College of Nutrition, 1–10. Advance online publication. https://doi.org/10.1080/07315724.2020.1863282

Transcript and show notes available on my website.

Feb 24, 202113:57
16 | On Keeping Things Simple
Feb 16, 202107:11
15 | Identifying Your Target Market and Niche
Feb 09, 202109:10
14 | How to Handle Income from your Practice
Feb 01, 202110:27
13 | Accountability Groups for Practitioners
Dec 13, 202009:22
12 | Why You Need a Referral List and Who to Add
Nov 04, 202007:40
11 | Website Perfectionism
Oct 22, 202007:32
10 | Safety of Probiotics in Infants
Oct 03, 202013:16
9 | Thoughts on Working and Homeschooling
Sep 27, 202011:34
8 | Identifying your Core Values
Sep 05, 202007:57
7 | How to Name your Herbal or Nutrition Practice

7 | How to Name your Herbal or Nutrition Practice

If you're on the cusp of starting a new practice (congrats!), one of the first things you'll need to do is come up with a name. In this episode, I share a few things to consider as you make your decision. Find the show notes here, and feel free to submit your questions, comments, or the story of how you chose your practice name in the comment section. 

If you're looking for a guided process as you work through getting your practice up and running, come join me in the 10-week Roots: Foundations of Clinical Practice online course. Each week you'll have a few simple tasks to complete, and by the end of the course you'll be ready to open your doors. Early bird enrollment is now open! 

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6 | Using Inclusive Language in the Clinic
Jul 24, 202010:29
5 | How to Not Panic When You Have a Complicated Case
Jul 02, 202007:26
4 | Should You Use Testimonials to Market your Integrative Practice?
Jun 07, 202009:59
3 | Making Violet Syrup
Apr 23, 202008:57
2 | Tips for Taking your Practice Online
Mar 16, 202010:15
1 | Is Fennel Safe during Pregnancy?
Mar 08, 202014:00
Trailer: What to Expect

Trailer: What to Expect

Look for the first episode in March, 2020. Until then, check out this short trailer to find out what you can expect from this podcast. My hope is that the podcast will provide support, encouragement, food for thought, and ongoing education for herbalists and nutritionists. If you have feedback, topic requests, or questions, please submit them: https://www.camillefreeman.com/contact


 

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