
The Matburn Podcast
By Joshua Hinger

The Matburn PodcastJul 12, 2021

Matburn Episode 43

Matburn Episode 42: Apocalypse Now
Topics include: The ocean is on fire. How we can stop all the genocide. How much control an affiliation should have over the way academies conduct their business. Keenan argues that the future of the average practitioner jiu-jitsu community will evolve into something akin to the present-day yoga community, and the future of professional jiu-jitsu competition looks like present-day WWE. Lastly, the cross-utility of studying jiu-jitsu. Big shout out to JiuGo the Card game and Tap Cancer Out.

Matburn Episode 41
Posted up in La Casa de Cornelius, the guys talk about YouTube Edu-tainment, opening academies to spread jiu-jitsu, Master's Problems: Keenan's broken back vs Josh's busted elbow, Mica Galvao’s weekend of soul crushing competition dominance, and the what would it be like to wear a Gi for an ADCC match?

Matburn Episode 40: Brad "Quake" Riddell
Josh talks with undefeated UFC fighter Brad “Quake” Riddell. Brad has over 50 professional kickboxing fights, 10 professional MMA fights, and is quickly climbing the ranks of the UFC lightweight division. Brad is a New Zealand native who is currently stranded in the USA due to Covid-19 travel restrictions. He talks a bit about his time here in the USA, his interest in Wim Hof breathing exercises, and what it’s like training under world renowned MMA coach Eugene Bareman at the infamous City Kickboxing gym in Auckland. This episode is sponsored by Tap Cancer Out. Check out their upcoming World Grappling Day event on December 12th. You can get the details at tapcancerout.com. Also a huge thanks to JiuGo the card game. Check out JiuGoPlay.com to order your deck. It’s jiu-jitsu in your pocket.

Matburn Episode 39
The end of the hiatus. Brought to you by BJJLINK! The only jiu-jitsu-only social media app. The only Keenan admits that the hiatus is his fault. "What if" questions during class. Keenan still loves Tesla. How would we survive if the power grid was destroyed. Grappling hygiene and telling stinky people that they stink. Shout out to Jiu-JitsuX and the grappling legend JT Torres.

Matburn Episode 38: featuring Edwin Najmi
Episode 38 featuring The Kid, Edwin Najmi, Master of the Flying Triangle. The guys talk about the current state of the world, too many old and weird people in the government, why Edwin started taking training more serious, grappling with Mongolian judokas, dietary supplements, fights that break out in competitions and training, and Keenan's haunted gym.

Matburn Episode 37: featuring ADCC Champion Matheus Diniz
Josh and Keenis get a phone call from the 2019 ADCC 88kg Champion, Matheus Diniz. Both Keenis and Josh have competed against Matheus on multiple occasions with wins and loses exchanged in both directions. The guys catch up and share some old competition memories while also briefly discussing the current state of the jiu-jitsu community in the wake of the never ending Coronapocolypse. Keenan finally admits that he hates being called Keenis, and declares Josh the winner of the Fuck-Your-Name-Game. This episode is sponsored by SGPMedicoLegal.com, and JiuGo the card game.

Matburn Episode 36: Tanner the Ginger Rice
Hinjer and Keenis have a special call-in guest, Tanner the Ginger Rice. Also, known to the Shasta County Health Department as a public health terrorist. Tanner has recently become quite the legend in the small business world when he defied the governor's orders not to open his business until the governor sees fit. Tanner talks to us about some of the trials and tribulations that he has been encountering with the local authorities who, according to Tanner, would rather see Tanner and his family starve to death before allowing them to continue with their consensual combat hugging. The guys get into more general jiu-jitsu conversation in the second half of the episode. Huge thanks to our official sponsor, JiuGo the card game. It's jiu-jitsu in your pocket. Check them out at JiuGoPlay.com.

TGOF92/Matburn Episode 35
UFC veteran and Easton BJJ Blackbelt Eliot Marshall hosted Josh as a guest on The Gospel of Fire Podcast. We are making the episode available here on the Matburn Podcast, because why not?

Matburn Episode 34: Just J&K
Josh and Keenan discuss the potential reopening of jiu-jitsu academies as well as some ideas and strategies that academy owners could use when the time comes to open the doors. Keenan shows Josh the true origins of American Jiu-Jitsu dating back to the early 1900s. They talk a little bit about the economy, Mars, Tesla, and conspiracy theories.

Matburn Episode 33: Isolation webcast
Hinjer and Keenis do their first webcast from their respective isolation chambers during the Coronapocalypse.

Matburn Episode 32: Andre and Angelica Galvao
Josh is joined by his professor, 5-time Blackbelt World Champion and reigning ADCC Superfight Champion, Andre Galvao, along with his better half Angelica Galvao who is the 2015 Blackbelt Nogi World Champion and 2018 Abu Dhabi World Pro Champion. They discuss whether Prof. Andre will appear at the 2021 ADCC World Championships, Kaynan Duarte's USADA suspension, as well as the decision for the AOJ academy to no longer represent Team Atos in the IBJJF competition circuit. This episode is sponsored by JIUGO the card game. It's jiu-jitsu in your pocket. Check them out at www.jiugoplay.com and follow them on Instagram @jiugoplay. Use promo code MATBURN for 10% off your order.

Matburn Episode 31: Josh and Keenan
After some travel, these two are back at it. They talk about the evolution of jiu-jitsu and how that fact is difficult for some people to accept. Keenan continues to wage verbal war with FloGrappling. Bullying and the Aussie kid who divided the world with his mom's viral video. Losing is an important part of the jiu-jitsu journey. They both demonstrate their inability to accurately speak about the physics of the universe. The Mikey Musumeci challenge. This episode is sponsored by MANSCAPED. Use the MATBURN code for 20% off.

Matburn Episode 30: Israel Adesanya

Matburn Episode 29: 2019 MMA Coach of the Year Eugene Bareman
2019 MMA Coach of the Year, Eugene Bareman, joins the podcast and talks about the rise of current UFC Middleweight Champions, Israel Adasanya (@stylebender) and UFC Featherweight Champion, Alexander Volkanovski, and many other things BJJ and MMA related. It’s rare to get Eugene on the record because he notoriously never does interviews or podcasts. He talked about how @citykickboxing was a struggling gym that didn’t turn a profit for years, to what is now a rapidly expanding hotbed for MMA fighters and kickboxing enthusiasts, home to 6 contracted UFC fighters and 2 UFC world champions. This episode was sponsored by LINETAX Services and TAPCANCEROUT. Check them out at www.linetax.net, and @tapcancerout.

Matburn Episode 28: Lachlan and Livia Giles
Lachlan Giles explains to us what its like to be rocketed into jiu-jitsu superstardom via his epic ADCC open class performance. We talked about academy class structures, training schedules, and which Aussie has the best leglocks. We discussed a potential fight-to-the-death bracket with the entire population of Australia. Livia tells us what really annoys Lachlan. This episode is sponsored by bjjlink.com.

Matburn Episode 27: Nogi Worlds Part 4: Rodrigo Comprido Medeiros, Luiz Panza, and Renato Canuto
The final edition of the 2019 IBJJF Nogi Worlds Mishmosh. First up was the legendary Rodrigo "Comprido" Medeiros who is a 2-time IBJJF Worlds Open Class Champion and the head of the Brasa Team. He shared some stories about his most memorable match, the Viking and his brother Valdo, as well as a quick shout out to his up and coming super student, Jessica Buchman. Next we talked to Leglock Machine Luiz Panza who shared some thoughts on getting pumped up before competitions. Last but not least, one of the most exciting competitors in the world, Renato Canuto. He talked about his experience at the UAEJJF King of the Mats, his matches at ADCC, and we talked about the old Hinger/Matheus Competition Saga. This episode is sponsored by Tap Cancer Out.

Matburn Episode 26: Nogi Worlds 2019 with Gesias “JZ” Cavalcante, Tom DeBlass, and Rico Bastos
Part 3 of the non-live broadcast from the Nogi Jiu-Jitsu World Championships. Old school MMA legend Gesias “JZ” Cavalcante joined us and talked about his first day of MMA, his experience in lute livre and vale tudo fighting. We also touched on the topic of no contest fights, poking eyes, and crushing testicles. Next up we had Cannon-Arms Tom DeBlass, who shared some thoughts on feeling old and beat up, the training grind, and his transition from being an active competitor to focusing 100% of his energy on coaching and mentoring his students. Lastly, senior IBJJF referee Rico Bastos sat down for a very interesting chat about life as a full time jiu-jitsu competition referee.

Matburn Episode 25: Part 2 of the Nogi Worlds Mishmosh with Talita Alencar, Kit Dale, JT Torres, and Weiss Sakhizada
Part 2 of the non-live broadcast from Nogi Worlds in Anaheim, California, brought to you by our friends at Tap Cancer Out. With us today, we have multiple-time world champion and ultra savage competitor Talita Alencar. Then super celebrity and Aussie BJJ representative Kit Dale sat down and shared some stories about his acting career. He even gave us a little sample of his American accents. Then the legendary JT Torres joined us with one of his blackbelts, Weiss “Kimura Trapstar” Sakhizada. We talked about cross-training politics, wrestlers who use jiu-jitsu techniques in wrestling matches, oil-checking in the wrestling world, and eventually we got to chattin’ about the haunted houses, and spooky vibes in the basement at Sucker Free Jiu-Jitsu in Long Island, NY. Also, lots of helpful information through out the episode from Hywel Teague. Huge thanks to Tap Cancer Out for sponsoring the episode. Check them out at www.tapcancerout.org. Also, big thanks to FloGrappling for allowing us to set up shop on their tables.

Matburn Episode 24: Jackson Sousa, Robert Drysdale, Keenis, Nisar Loynab, Kristian Woodmansee at the 2019 IBJJF Nogi Worlds
Recording from the FloGrappling table at IBJJF Nogi Worlds in Anaheim, CA, Josh put together a mish-mosh of short interviews with pretty much whoever was walking by the table at the right moment. Guests include the legendary Jackson Sousa, Robert Drysdale, Keenis Cornelius, Kristian Woodmansee, Nisar “Persian Papi” Loynab, as well as Hywel Teague. Jackson and Hywel gave us some very interesting insight on what it’s like to grow up in the Favela and how Jackson built a successful life and a career that allowed him to become one of the most recognized and well-respected names in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. Kristian also gave us some parallel insights on his troubled childhood here in the USA. Both Jackson and Kristian now own their own academies in London and Philadelphia, respectively. These two guys are both great examples of success through hard work and perseverance. Robert Drysdale also drops some knowledge on us as well. Photo provided by FloGrappling. Huge thanks to the FloGrappling Crew for sharing their table space and power source with us.

Matburn Episode 23: Kade and Tye Ruotolo
Coming off a couple big wins in the UK, the legendary Ruotolo Twins joined us in the studio to talk about their meteoric rise in the professional level jiu-jitsu circuit. The boys talked about what they like to do outside of jiu-jitsu, and how they avoid burning out after having put in over a decade of time on the mats. They talked about Tye's match with Vagner at Fight2Win and Kade's coaching strategy, as well as what it feels like to break Paulo Miyao's knee. We talked about the actual technical level of juvenile blue belts and how it's not the same as the adult blue belt division. We attempted a little Spyder Invitational recap, but got side-tracked, as usual.

Matburn After Dark: Episode 22
Hinjer and Keenis tee up the mics late at night. They tell their jiu-jitsu genesis stories. Keenis used to get beat up by his sister. They did a breakdown of the Spyder Invitational brackets. They explain some of the funny things that beginners do when they start training. Hinjer talks about Jiu-jitsu con-artists who are alive and well in Hermosa Beach, CA and Waco, Texas. Students should leave the instructing to the instructors. The last 30 seconds of the match are the most important.

Matburn Episode 21: Ilima-Lei Macfarlane

Matburn Episode 20
We talked about quite the variety of topics including: the UFC, No Meat November, the upcoming Spyder Invitational, the leading causes of death in the USA, Josh’s new competition prep mentoring program, we took our first listener call-in from Bruce who asked about blue and purple belts teaching jiu-jitsu, we attempted to call @matheusdinizjj but apparently the ADCC champ is too cool for us now, Keenis asks about the differences between liberals and conservatives, and we talked about 27 other things that may or may not interest you. Shout out to Alan for being a badass audio tech assistant. This episode was sponsored by @tapcancerout compliments of @themikeyrod who didn’t ask to be named, I just wanted to do it because he’s an awesome guy who supports the podcast and supports the fight against cancer. Check out @tapcancerout and the @wedefyfoundation and support these amazing Jiu-Jitsu based charities.

Matburn Episode 19: Geo Martinez
This episode is difficult to recap because the conversation was all over the place. The guys talked about anything and everything. They started off talking about their favorite video games. Training blind and grabbing junk. Jiu-jitsu in Hawaii. Standing up for yourself against bullies. The culture of positive vibes at 10th Planet. Breakdancing culture. American Jiu-Jitsu. The haters who never spread their hate in person. The way accomplishments help build confidence. Awkward handshakes. Rubbing noses to say hello. The tricky art of dating within a hierarchical system. Keenan inquires about why murderers receive a variety of different sentences. Jiu-Jitsu in movies. Copying moves and biters in the breakdancing world. Korea and their dominance over the video game world. Geo talks about how Eddie Bravo changed his life. This episode is brought to you by VHTS.EUROPE.

Matburn Episode 18: The Return of Keenis (featuring Lucas Barbosa)
Keenis returns. We make fun of his ugly swollen eye. We talk about EKC and how horrible it is. Lucas Barbosa drops in half way through the episode. We mostly talk about ADCC.

Matburn Episode 17: JT Torres and KP Kimpo
This episode was recorded just days before JT claimed his 2nd consecutive ADCC World Championship title at 77kg. As you can imagine, him and I were crazy busy getting ready for our trip to Anaheim. We managed to squeeze in an episode just using the laptop internal microphone... So the audio is a little distant. Janky level 4 on a 10 point scale with 10 being the most janky. We talked about JT's beginnings in martial arts. We talked about his academy in Hartsdale, NY. KP's experience in the medical field when it comes to people shoving things in their butts. Hard ass training and random asthma attacks from pushing too hard. The proper mindset and etiquette during comp training. Training camp grumpiness. And of course we talked about ADCC and JT's historic battles with Lucas Lepri.

Matburn Episode 16: Stuart Cooper

Matburn Episode 15: Story Time Sunday with Crystal Gaxiola

Matburn Episode 14: Mo Jassim
Head ADCC organizer Mo Jassim talks with Josh and drops some serious knowledge about all things related to ADCC. While many jiu-jitsu fans may not know who Mo Jassim is, every jiu-jitsu competitor on the planet knows Mo as "the ADCC gatekeeper." Topics include the actual administrative hierarchy of ADCC: Sheikh Tahnoun, Guy Neivins, and Peter Baltaliyski. Why the Sheikh founded ADCC. Mo's first time as the head organizer of the ADCC World Championships. His first run as a head organizer at the 2017 ADCC West Coast Trials. His epic new production team: himself, Seth Daniels, and Shawn Fowler and their enormous efforts to give ADCC a new look and feel that is equivalent to its prestige. Whether ADCC will ever start testing for PEDs. The guy who told Mo to suck his dingaling because he couldn't get an invitation. The possibility of altering the weight classes for the female divisions, increasing the prize money, and whether the ADCC rules will ever change. Personal note: the is the best audio quality the Matburn Podcast has ever had.

Matburn Episode 13: Seth Daniels
Episode 13 with Fight2Win President Seth Daniels. A quick disclaimer, the first 30 minutes is super shitty sounding because the janky ass T-shirt mic had a loose connection and wasn’t recording properly. And because we didn’t have headsets, we couldn’t hear how shitty it was until we took a break 30 minutes into the episode. Feel free to skip ahead. We talked about all sorts of shit including unsustainable jiu-jitsu events, Seth’s bling-bling lifestyle before his eventual bankruptcy when the housing market crashed in 2008, and why he got away from hosting MMA events and musical concerts. After the 30 min mark, we fixed the mic and talked about F2W eventually going international. Steroids in BJJ. The best and worst cities for F2W. How much Seth loves Easton BJJ in Colorado. Why he has so many random tattoos. Of course, ADCC and the new style of production for the event. He also talked about finding some of the shit talking internet trolls who might attending ADCC and maybe letting a few athletes beat their asses in the back alley. But like I said before, The Matburn Podcast does not condone the use of violence to solve disagreements... however, Seth Daniels is gonna whatever he wants.

Matburn Episode 12: Lucas Barbosa - The Hulk
Josh brought in multiple-time black belt world champion @lucasbarbosajj. We talked about ADCC, coaching styles at competition, and we spent some time making fun of Keenan and his temporary administrative suspension and his ayahuasca retreat in the mountains of West Virginia. We discussed gun violence in the U.S. and Brazil, the Amazon fires, grappling for chickens in Turkmenistan, and fighting teammates in tournaments. We did some reminiscing of the past and how Lucas ended up coming to Atos from Brazil. And, in between all of these topics we might have talked about Jiu-Jitsu. Big thanks to our sponsor @tapcancerout Be sure to checkout their upcoming events and their online store - Store.tapcancerout.org

Matburn Episode 11: Robert Drysdale

Matburn Episode 10: Craig Jones

Matburn Episode 9
Josh and Keenan finally did the breakdown of the Meregali match from Worlds. They talked about “mat justice” and how much (if ever) of a mat beating is it okay to give someone if they are bullying other people. And a brief discussion occurred regarding people who try to demote themselves when they feel their skills are inadequate. Keenan also may have suggested a new business model for FloGrappling. Huge thanks to our new sponsor Tap Cancer Out, our OG sponsor Sam The Tax Guy, and World Series of Jiu-Jitsu. Check them out and support those who support the Matburn Podcast.
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Matburn Episode 8
Josh and Keenan talk in depth about skin infections and proper etiquette when it comes to training while you have some funk growing on your body. Ringworm, impetigo, staph, mat herps, etc... don't train when you have shit on yourself. They talked about the legend that is Kyle Maynard, congenital quadriplegic super hero who can do anything that any other full-able-bodied person. From there, they talked about the challenge of trying to control Kyle in training and some of Kyle's unique jiu-jitsu attacks based on his body type. They talked a little bit about how to recover from injuries, as well as the ideal class structure regarding warm-ups, technique, and sparring time. Huge thanks to our sponsors Mariana's Open, the World Series of Jiu-Jitsu, and Sam the Tax Guy (Line Tax Services) www.linetax.net, 913-353-4300. Matburn listeners get 50% off their initial tax service.

Matburn Episode 7: Andre Galvao

Matburn Episode 6
On episode 6, we talked about the good old penny-pinching travel days when we would try to get to tournaments by the cheapest and most uncomfortable means possible. Arm-rest battles on airplanes. We talked about scam artists and the most recent scam artist story which claimed adcc competitor @pichaelmerez as a victim. We briefly touched on the gi vs nogi debate and whether it’s optimal to specialize in one or the other, or to do both. We took a moment to remind everyone what a badass JT Torres is as he is preparing to face off against one of the most savage competitors on the planet, Vagnar Rocha. Lastly, we talked about the implosion of nogi jiu-jitsu and whether it is devolving into a game of wrestling with leg locks. Oh, and we talked about the failure of Mantis Guard. Big thanks to our sponsors @marianasopen, @worldseriesofjiujitsu, and Line Tax Services.

Matburn Episode 5
Josh and Keenan finally got their shit together and managed a semi-decent audio recording. They talked about Josh's last corporate job and education, and Keenan's 3 days of college before going into full-time jiu-jitsu. Keenan getting kicked out of a jiu-jitsu academy in Hawaii. They talked a little bit about the 10th Planet victory at the F2W/Subversive. Other topics include, the amazing Miyao-Miyaos, blackbelt degree promotions based on time vs effort, big guys who no one roots for just because they're big, Sensei Louis the weinersnitchel king of San Diego, nut stomping in training, and guys who think its cool to train 100% with girls with excessive dominance.

Matburn Episode 4.5 (Tesla's B-day Episode)
*Explicit Language* Josh and Keenan record this episode in Keenan's new Tesla (because today is Nikola Tesla's Birthday) while it's on its self-drive mode. They talk about sandbagging in jiu-jitsu competition and whether it's actually a thing or not. Also, they discuss competition mindset and whether its important to go into a match believing you will win versus using a more humble and conservative mindset. They breakdown the Disneyland brawl video and what is acceptable behavior when a female knocks out someone's mother. This leads to a discussion about sport bjj vs self-defense bjj. The best part about the episode is centered around the infamous "Luca Judo."

Matburn Episode 4
Josh and Keenan talk/argue about the very tricky topic of dating/hooking up with people at your academy, particularly the higher belt ranks pursuing the lower belt ranks, and whether jiu-jitsu rank even matters. Keenan's "Tinder trolling" days comes up briefly. They talk a little but about their long lost and very short-lived MMA aspirations. They explored some of the hateful YouTube comments from previous episodes, and Keenan goes off on a tangent about inner ear crystals and balance.

Matburn Episode 3
Host Josh Hinger and Sometimes Maybe Co-Host Keenan Cornelius talk about a wide variety of stuff including some jiu-jitsu stuff, such as ADCC and the failed Metamoris experiment,1 and some non-jiu-jitsu stuff, such as Teslas and the death penalty.

Matburn Episode 2
The Matburn Podcast: Episode 2. Topics include: climate change, jiu-jitsu insecurities, my own insecurities (according to Keenan), social media toxicity, and about a half dozen random topics. The audio should be better than episode 1. And we have a fireplace, so that’s cool.

Matburn Episode 1
Josh Hinger and Keenan Cornelius discuss and argue about various issues regarding the jiu-jitsu community including training room bullshit, competition strategies, why Keenan had to leave Atos, and they breakdown a few of the mat battles they've had in competition.