
The Ruins
By The Ruins
Welcome to The Ruins, a podcast about the journey of faith, hosted by Joseph and Nicole Peterson.
For more information, visit our website: www.thepetersons.cc.
For more information, visit our website: www.thepetersons.cc.

The Binary Breaking Transness of Jesus | with Avery Arden
The Binary Breaking Transness of Jesus | with Avery Arden
The RuinsDec 08, 2021
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51. Opposing Christo-Fascism In Christianity | with Dr. Joan Braune
51. Opposing Christo-Fascism In Christianity | with Dr. Joan Braune
In episode 51, we are joined by scholar, writer, and Gonzaga University professor, Dr. Joan Braune and talking with her about empathy and fascism. We’ll talk about how we can organize and oppose fascism in our every day lives, and how people of faith can live with integrity in the face of the ongoing threat of Christo-fascism.
SHOW NOTES
Dr. Braune Website
International Conference on Hate Studies
No Pasarán Book
ABOUT
The Ruins is a podcast about the journey of faith hosted by Joseph and Nicole Peterson. To find more about our story, visit www.thepetersons.cc.
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Mar 19, 202350:10

50. Voting, Elections, and Expanding Your Perspective | With Sarah Dixit
50. Voting, Elections, and Expanding Your Perspective | With Sarah Dixit
In episode 50, we are joined by Sarah Dixit, and talking with her about voting. We’ll also talk about evangelicalism, Democrats, abortion access, moving away from our inherited beliefs, and how we can love our neighbors well by voting to create a world where we all can flourish.
SHOW NOTES
Planned Parenthood Abortion Fund
vote.org
ABOUT
The Ruins is a podcast about the journey of faith hosted by Joseph and Nicole Peterson. To find more about our story, visit www.thepetersons.cc.
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Nov 07, 202249:02

49. Leaving Evangelicalism, Innovation From the Margins, And New Wine Collective | With Eugene Kim
49. Leaving Evangelicalism, Innovation From the Margins, And New Wine Collective | With Eugene Kim
In episode 49, we are joined by my dear friend and mentor, Eugene Kim, and talking with him about the future of Christianity. We’ll talk about his journey of quitting pastoral ministry, common themes he sees in his conversations with people leaving with evangelicalism, and how New Wine Collective might just change the world.
SHOW NOTES
Eugene Kim Twitter
Eugene Kim Facebook
Eugene Kim Instagram
New Wine Collective Newsletter
New Wine Collective Twitter
New Wine Collective Instagram
New Wine Collective Facebook
New Wine Collective Website
ABOUT
The Ruins is a podcast about the journey of faith hosted by Joseph and Nicole Peterson. To find more about our story, visit www.thepetersons.cc.
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Oct 05, 202247:26

48. Being Divisive, The Toxic Third Way, and How Jesus Takes A Side | With Jonny Rashid
48. Being Divisive, The Toxic Third Way, and How Jesus Takes A Side | With Jonny Rashid
In episode 48, we are joined by Jonny Rashid, and talking with him about his new book Jesus Takes A Side. We’ll also talk about the future of Christianity, Christian Nationalism, white supremacy, the harm of the third way, how much salt you need while cooking, and why bipartisanship in the church doesn’t work.
SHOW NOTES
Jesus Takes a Side Book
Jonny Rashid Twitter
Jonny Rashid Instagram
Johnny Rashid Website
Resist and Restore Podcast
Circle of Hope Church, Philly
Food Pastor Instagram
ABOUT
The Ruins is a podcast about the journey of faith hosted by Joseph and Nicole Peterson. To find more about our story, visit www.thepetersons.cc.
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Sep 07, 202245:59

47. Liberation, A Burning Police Precinct, And Taking Back The Radical Jesus | With Damon Garcia
47. Liberation, A Burning Police Precinct, And Taking Back The Radical Jesus | With Damon Garcia
In episode 47, we are joined by Damon Garcia, and talking with him about his new book The God Who Riots— Taking Back the Radical Jesus. We’ll also talk about liberation theology, capitalism in the church, abolition, forgiveness, marginalized communities, and how we can live into a better way forward, together.
SHOW NOTES
Damon's IG
Damon's Twitter
Damon's TikTok
Damon's Youtube
Damon's Patreon
Buy The God Who Riots Book
ABOUT
The Ruins is a podcast about the journey of faith hosted by Joseph and Nicole Peterson. To find more about our story, visit www.thepetersons.cc.
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Aug 09, 202258:06

46. White Homework, Neuroscience, and Why I Left Evangelicalism | With Tori Glass
46. White Homework, Neuroscience, and Why I Left Evangelicalism | With Tori Glass
In episode 46, we are joined by Tori Glass and talking with her about leaving Evangelicalism. We're also neuroscience, white supremacy, capitalism, bad theology, Christian Nationalism, and why Republican politics is inseparable from white evangelicalism.
Show Notes
Tori's Twitter
Tori's Instagram
White Homework
Tori Glass
About
The Ruins is a podcast about the journey of faith hosted by Joseph and Nicole Peterson. To find more about our story, visit www.thepetersons.cc.
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Jun 16, 202258:44

Christian Supremacy, Youtube Discipleship, and the Future of Christianity | With Kai Ngu
Christian Supremacy, Youtube Discipleship, and the Future of Christianity | With Kai Ngu
In episode 45, we are joined by Kai Ngu and talking with them about Christian Supremacy. We’ll also talk about hermeneutics, Youtube discipleship, and how we can live into the way of Jesus and usher in the next 500 years of Christianity. We experienced some technical difficulties with Kai’s audio near the end of the episode, so keep that in mind as you’re listening.
Show Notes
Kai's Twitter
Kai's Instagram
Kai's Website
Theology Thursday
Christian Supremacy Sermon
About
The Ruins is a podcast about the journey of faith hosted by Joseph and Nicole Peterson. To find more about our story, visit www.thepetersons.cc.
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Jun 09, 202236:56

Maverick City, Gospel Music, And Placating to White Audiences | With Kayla, Ariel, and Greg
Maverick City, Gospel Music, And Placating to White Audiences | With Kayla, Ariel, and Greg
In episode 44, we are joined by Greg, Ariel, and Kayla and talking with them about Maverick City Music. We’ll also talk about gospel music, Black artists placating to white audiences, respectability politics, capitalism, intersectionality, the white gaze, and what we do moving forward for worship music.
Show Notes
Kayla's Twitter
Kayla's Instagram
Kayla's Patreon
Greg's Twitter
Greg's Instagram
Greg's Facebook
About
The Ruins is a podcast about the journey of faith hosted by Joseph and Nicole Peterson. To find more about our story, visit www.thepetersons.cc.
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Jun 01, 202201:08:23

Purity Culture, Abolition, And Restorative Relationships in Community | With Camille Hernandez
Purity Culture, Abolition, And Restorative Relationships in Community | With Camille Hernandez
In episode 43, we are joined by Camille Hernandez and talking with her about purity culture in the church. We're also talking about trauma, militarization, the consent of Jesus, violence, decolonization, and how we can move forward in the way of Jesus and see restoration and healing in our communities.
Show Notes
Camille's Instagram
Camille's Twitter
Camille's TikTok
Camille's Substack
About
The Ruins is a podcast about the journey of faith hosted by Joseph and Nicole Peterson. To find more about our story, visit www.thepetersons.cc.
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May 25, 202242:14

Atonement Theories, Black Motherhood, and Jesus the Abolitionist | With Dr. Nikia Smith Robert
Atonement Theories, Black Motherhood, and Jesus the Abolitionist | With Dr. Nikia Smith Robert
In episode 42, we are joined by Dr. Nikia Smith Robert and talking with her about carceral logic and abolition. We’ll also talk about Womanist theology, her non-profit Abolition Sanctuary, Black motherhood, atonement theories, and the role that abolition has and will continue to play in the church in the years ahead.
Show Notes:
Dr. Nikia Website
Abolitionist Sanctuary Instagram
Abolitionist Sanctuary Twitter
Abolitionist Sanctuary Facebook
Penitence, Plantation, and the Penitentiary
About
The Ruins is a podcast about the journey of faith hosted by Joseph and Nicole Peterson. To find more about our story, visit www.thepetersons.cc.
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May 18, 202253:59

Please Stop Doing Mother's Day In Church | With Sena Hughes Lauer
Please Stop Doing Mother's Day In Church | With Sena Hughes Lauer
In (bonus!) episode 41 we are joined by Sena Hughes Lauer and talking with her about the harm of Mother's Day in the church. We'll also talk gender roles, God as Mother, and how we can create spaces where elevation women is an integral part of church life.
Show Notes
Sena's Instagram
Nicole's Instagram
Shannon's Post on Instagram
About
Joseph and Nicole are living as bi-vocational pastors and leaders in Spokane, Washington. To find more about our story, visit www.thepetersons.cc.
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May 08, 202255:39

Calvinism, Traveling Choirs, and Let's Give A Damn! | With Nick Laparra
Calvinism, Traveling Choirs, and Let's Give A Damn! | With Nick Laparra
In episode 40, we are joined by Nick Laparra, and talking with him about why and how he left evangelicalism. We’ll also talk about his podcast Let’s Give a Damn, Calvinist theology, smoking cigars, living in New York City, making people mad on social media, and what it looks like for us to be a damn-givers who care about seeing the world become a better place.
Show Notes
Nick's Instagram
Nick's Twitter
Let's Give A Damn Instagram
Let's Give A Damn Twitter
Let's Give A Damn Website
About
Joseph and Nicole are living as bi-vocational pastors and leaders in Spokane, Washington. To find more about our story, visit www.thepetersons.cc.
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May 04, 202201:23:16

Abuelita Faith, Cognitive Justice, and Why We Need To Center Women of Color | With Kat Armas
Abuelita Faith, Cognitive Justice, and Why We Need To Center Women of Color | With Kat Armas
In episode 39 we are joined by the amazing Kat Armas and talking with her about the unnamed and overlooked theologians of our faith. We’ll also talk about her book Abuelita Faith, hermeneutics, women in the Scripture, growing up in conversation church spaces, and what it looks like for us to center and learn from abuelita theologians and discover what liberation for all of us looks like.
Show Notes
Kat's Instagram
Kat's Twitter
Kat's Facebook
Abuelita Faith
The Protagonistas Podcast
Kat Armas Website
About
Joseph and Nicole are living as bi-vocational pastors and leaders in Spokane, Washington. To find more about our story, visit www.thepetersons.cc.
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Apr 28, 202237:10

3 Years Later: What I've Learned Since Getting Fired From Church
3 Years Later: What I've Learned Since Getting Fired From Church
In episode 38 we're talking spiritual abuse. It's been 3 years to the day since we were fired and excommunicated from our church in Vancouver, BC. Here are 5 lessons and a word of encouragement for anyone who's experienced spiritual abuse. If you don't have anyone to talk to about your experience, please reach out to us. We'd love to hold space alongside you for whatever you're feeling.
Show Notes
Episode 22: Spiritual Abuse
About
Joseph and Nicole are living as bi-vocational pastors and leaders in Spokane, Washington. To find more about our story, visit www.thepetersons.cc.
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Mar 12, 202218:10

Coming Out as Trans, Pastoral Ministry, And The Good Work of Co-Creation | With Rev. June Joplin
Coming Out as Trans, Pastoral Ministry, And The Good Work of Co-Creation | With Rev. June Joplin
In episode 37 we are joined by the amazing Rev. June Joplin and talking with her about gender binaries in the church. We’ll also talk about her journey of coming out, how patriarchy affects our our theology, how we can break down toxic and oppressive binaries, and how our trans/non-binary/gnc siblings help us know God better.
Show Notes
June's Twitter
June's Instagram
June's Website
MCC Toronto
June's Coming Out Sermon
June's Surgery GoFundMe
BBC World Service Feature on June
25 Women of Influence Feature
About
Joseph and Nicole are living as bi-vocational pastors and leaders in Spokane, Washington. To find more about our story, visit www.thepetersons.cc.
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Feb 16, 202253:01

The Whiteness of Deconstruction and Reclaiming Christianity On The Margins | With Rohadi
The Whiteness of Deconstruction and Reclaiming Christianity On The Margins | With Rohadi
In episode 36, we are joined by Rohadi, and talking with him about the whiteness of deconstruction. We’ll also talk about how his upcoming book When We Belong, pastoral ministry in Canada, and how we can move forward to reclaim Christianity on the Margins.
Show Notes
Rohadi Twitter
Rohadi Instagram
www.rohadi.com
When We Belong Book
Faith in a Fresh Vibe Podcast
Episode 41 Conversation with Omar Reyes
About
Joseph and Nicole are living as bi-vocational pastors and leaders in Spokane, Washington. To find more about our story, visit www.thepetersons.cc.
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Feb 09, 202259:52

Reclaiming Our Theology from Systems and Structures That Oppress | With Brandi Miller
Reclaiming Our Theology from Systems and Structures That Oppress | With Brandi Miller
In episode 35 we are joined by THE Brandi Miller and talking with her about white supremacy and spiritual formation. We’ll also talk about patriarchy, her podcast Reclaiming My Theology, and how we can create and form a community experience around faith deconstruction and reconstruction that isn’t led by white men.
Show Notes
Brandi's Instagram
Brandi's Twitter
Reclaiming My Theology Instagram
Reclaiming My Theology Podcast
reclaimingmytheology.com
About
Joseph and Nicole are living as bi-vocational pastors and leaders in Spokane, Washington. To find more about our story, visit www.thepetersons.cc.
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Jan 28, 202253:09

Sex Positivity, Pleasure, and What Abstinence Only Sex Education Gets Wrong | With Julia Feldman
Sex Positivity, Pleasure, and What Abstinence Only Sex Education Gets Wrong | With Julia Feldman
In episode 34, we are joined by Julia Feldman-DeCoudreaux and talking with them about what it looks like to be embody sex positivity and have access to helpful sex education. We’ll also talk about human development, what abstinence only sex ed gets wrong, and how we can learn to have more empowering, inclusive, medically accurate, and compassionate conversations about sex.
Show Notes
Julia's Instagram
Giving the Talk Website
About
Joseph and Nicole are living as bi-vocational pastors and leaders in Spokane, Washington. To find more about our story, visit www.thepetersons.cc.
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Jan 19, 202243:02

Patriarchy, Interfaith Marriage, and Women in Church Planting | with Donna Burkland
Patriarchy, Interfaith Marriage, and Women in Church Planting | with Donna Burkland
In episode 33 we are joined by Donna Burkland, and talking with her about patriarchy and women in church planting. We’ll also talk about interfaith marriage, deconstruction, toxic theology, and how white faith leaders and can de-center themselves and help facilitate communities of liberation, anti-racism, and inclusion.
Show Notes:
becomingpastor.com
Donna's Instagram
Safe Harbor Orange Country (Their new church plant name!!!)
About
Joseph and Nicole are living as bi-vocational pastors and leaders in Spokane, Washington. To find more about our story, visit www.thepetersons.cc.
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Jan 13, 202201:01:16

Why We Changed Our Name
Why We Changed Our Name
EPISODE 32
Today we are sharing a little update about why we decided to change the name of our podcast. We'll read the recent statement we shared and talk about why we chose the name "The Ruins."
SHOW NOTES
Live Your Theology Out Loud by Rev. Dr. Wil Gafney
ABOUT
Joseph and Nicole are living as bi-vocational pastors and leaders in Spokane, Washington. To support us financially or find more info about our story, visit www.thepetersons.cc.
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Jan 01, 202212:57

The Binary Breaking Transness of Jesus | with Avery Arden
The Binary Breaking Transness of Jesus | with Avery Arden
EPISODE 31
Today, we are joined by Avery Arden, and talking with them about Trans Christianity. We’ll also talk about their podcast Blessed Are The Binary Breakers, the transness of Jesus, and how we can learn to center the perspective and experience of our trans siblings and see heaven come to earth.
SHOW NOTES
Blessed Are The Binary Breakers Podcast
Queer Nativity Podcast Episode
Avery’s Instagram
Avery’s Twitter
Avery’s Facebook
www.blessedarethebinarybreakers.com
www.binarybreakingliturgy.com
The Kin-dom in the Rubble, by Avery Arden
Church Clarity
Queer Grace - Online Community
ABOUT
Joseph and Nicole are living as bi-vocational pastors and leaders in Spokane, Washington. To support us financially or find more info about our story, visit www.thepetersons.cc.
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Dec 08, 202101:04:38

The Decolonized Christian | with Greg Mason
The Decolonized Christian | with Greg Mason
EPISODE 30
Today, I am joined by Greg Mason, and talking with him about how white supremacy shaped his view of God, faith, and theology. We’ll also talk about his podcast the Decolonized Christian podcast and how we can learn to do faith in a way that leads to the liberation of everyone.
SHOW NOTES
Greg's Twitter
Greg's Facebook
Greg's Instagram
The Decolonized Christian Podcast
The Decolonized Christian Facebook Group
Black Theology of Liberation by Dr. James Cone
Sexuality and the Black Church by Kelly Brown Douglas
If God Still Breathes, Why Can't I? by Angela Parker
Indigenous Black Theology by Jawanza Eric Clark
ABOUT
Joseph and Nicole are living as bi-vocational pastors and leaders in Spokane, Washington. To support us financially or find more info about our story, visit www.thepetersons.cc.
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Dec 01, 202153:04

Black Lives Matter and Biblical Authority | with Dr. Angela Parker
Black Lives Matter and Biblical Authority | with Dr. Angela Parker
EPISODE 29
Today, I am joined by Dr. Angela Parker, and talking with her about her new book, If God Still Breathes, Why Can’t I?: Black Lives Matter and Biblical Authority. We’ll also talk womanist theology, hermeneutics, and how inerrancy is a tool of white supremacy and authoritarianism used to oppress and control people.
SHOW NOTES
Dr. Parker's Twitter
Dr. Parker's Facebook
If God Still Breathes, Why Can't I? Book
One Womanist's View Of Racial Reconciliation in Galatians Article
McAfee School of Theology | Mercer University
ABOUT
Joseph and Nicole are living as bi-vocational pastors and leaders in Spokane, Washington. To support us financially or find more info about our story, visit www.thepetersons.cc.
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Nov 17, 202151:12

Womanist Theology, MAGA Hermeneutics, and Centering Women in the Church | with Sharifa Stevens
Womanist Theology, MAGA Hermeneutics, and Centering Women in the Church | with Sharifa Stevens
EPISODE 28
Today, I am joined by Sharifa Stevens, and talking with her about women in ministry, how we’ve mishandled Bible verses and used them to oppress women, and we as the church can reorient ourselves and learn to center women, specifically women of color, and build our theology from their perspective.
SHOW NOTES
Sharifa's Instagram
Sharifa's Twitter
www.sharifawrites.com
Abuelita Faith- Kat Armas
Dr. Wilda Gafney
The Protagonistas Podcast
ABOUT
Joseph and Nicole are living as bi-vocational pastors and leaders in Spokane, Washington. To support us financially or find more info about our story, visit www.thepetersons.cc.
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Aug 16, 202155:31

Shiphrah and Puah Are Subversive Badasses
Shiphrah and Puah Are Subversive Badasses
EPISODE 27
Today we’re talking about how two Egyptian Midwives that set the stage for one of the most important moments in the entire Bible. We'll talk about Shiphrah and Puah, civil disobedience, and how we can model their subversive rebellion against violence and empire.
SHOW NOTES
Kat Armas- How Shiphrah and Puah Mock the Violence of Empire
Dr. Wil Gafney- Womanist Midrash
ABOUT
Joseph and Nicole are living as bi-vocational pastors and leaders in Spokane, Washington. To support us financially or find more info about our story, visit www.thepetersons.cc.
Jul 19, 202124:06

Why Mega-Church Evangelicalism Doesn't Work | with Nathanial Green
Why Mega-Church Evangelicalism Doesn't Work | with Nathanial Green
EPISODE 26
We are joined by Nathaniel Green and having a conversation about his experience in and around mega-church evangelicalism. We’ll talk about the pitfalls of the mega-church, why people are leaving it, and what progressive Christianity has to offer us as we move into healthier and more liberating ways of doing faith, community, and theology.
SHOW NOTES
Nathanial's Instagram
Nathanial's Twitter
Q Christian Fellowship
Gracepointe Church
What is Progressive Christianity Sermon Series
ABOUT
Joseph and Nicole are living as bi-vocational pastors and leaders in Spokane, Washington. To support us financially or find more info about our story, visit www.thepetersons.cc.
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Jul 12, 202152:38

A Quick Podcast Update!
A Quick Podcast Update!
EPISODE 25
Today, we're talking about a little shift happening on the Kings and Queens podcast! Tune in to hear more!
ABOUT
Joseph and Nicole are living as bi-vocational pastors and leaders in Spokane, Washington. To support us financially or find more info about our story, visit www.thepetersons.cc.
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Jun 28, 202105:52

Toxic vs. Healthy Youth Ministry | with Irene Cho
Toxic vs. Healthy Youth Ministry | with Irene Cho
EPISODE 24
Today, we are joined by the amazing Irene Cho to talk about her experience in Youth Ministry and how we, as the church, can move out of spaces of toxic theology and abusive patterns of discipleship with our young people and move into liberating, inclusive, and empowering spaces of hope and love. This is SUCH a helpful episode, specifically for those who are currently working with young people. Don't miss it!
SHOW NOTES
The In Between
Irene Cho Twitter | Instagram | Facebook
ABOUT
Joseph and Nicole are living as bi-vocational pastors and leaders in Spokane, Washington. To support us financially or find more info about our story, visit www.thepetersons.cc.
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Jun 21, 202101:19:46

Empathetic Accountability | with Kyle Cryan
Empathetic Accountability | with Kyle Cryan
EPISODE 23
I am joined by my friend Kyle Cryan to talk about his experience in Bible college and the way he’s using his social media to give voice to those who’ve experienced harassment, discrimination, and abuse at Clarks Summit University. We’ll also talk about empathy and how film and art help us learn the heart of God for ourselves and others.
SHOW NOTES
#BSConfessional
REAP LGBTQ+
The Critical Millennial
Kyle's Instagram
Kyle's Twitter
ABOUT
Joseph and Nicole are living as bi-vocational pastors and leaders in Spokane, Washington. To support us financially or find more info about our story, visit www.thepetersons.cc.
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Jun 14, 202146:30

Our Story of Spiritual Abuse
Our Story of Spiritual Abuse
EPISODE 22
Nicole and I share our story of spiritual abuse in Vancouver, Canada. If you have or are going through abuse of any kind, specifically in the church, know that we love you, you are not alone, and there is hope. The journey towards healing can be daunting, but we would love to be a friend and help you begin or continue that journey. Please feel free to reach out to us at: kqpodcast@gmail.com.
SHOW NOTES
Emotionally Healthy Discipleship
Transitions Podcast Episode
Our Move to Spokane Podcast Episode
Strahan Coleman (Prayer Course)
ABOUT
Joseph and Nicole are living as bi-vocational pastors and leaders in Spokane, Washington. To support us financially or find more info about our story, visit www.thepetersons.cc.
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New Community Church
Jun 07, 202147:55

White Evangelicalism and A Coalition for Racial Justice in PDX | with Dr. Eva Oriakhi
White Evangelicalism and A Coalition for Racial Justice in PDX | with Dr. Eva Oriakhi
EPISODE 21
We are joined by an incredible friend, pharmacist, and low-key pastor, Dr. Eva Oriakhi, to talk about her experience in and around white evangelicalism, and how she helped lead a Coalition of Racial Justice in Portland, Oregon. We’ll also hear her thoughts on how we, as the church, can move out of spaces of white supremacy, patriarchy, and oppression, and into spaces of liberation, inclusion, and love.
SHOW NOTES
Dr. Eva's Instagram
Coalition for Racial Justice
ABOUT
Joseph and Nicole are living as bi-vocational pastors and leaders in Spokane, Washington. To support us financially or find more info about our story, visit www.thepetersons.cc.
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New Community Church
Kings and Queens Podcast
May 10, 202101:10:39

XXX Church and Purity Culture | with PJ Gal-Szabo
XXX Church and Purity Culture | with PJ Gal-Szabo
EPISODE 20
I had the opportunity to sit down with filmmaker, father-to-be, and former XXX Church employee, PJ Gal-Szabo, to have a conversation about the harmful and toxic narratives of purity culture. This was a really healing and restorative conversation for both of us and PJ has so much wisdom and insight to offer throughout the episode.
Note: This is a very honest and vulnerable conversation around some pretty sensitive issues. So for those of you who have trauma around purity culture, be advised and please listen with discretion.
SHOW NOTES
PJ's Twitter
PJ's Instagram
Vimeo.com/psz
ABOUT
Joseph and Nicole are living as bi-vocational pastors and leaders in Spokane, Washington. To support us financially or find more info about our story, visit www.thepetersons.cc.
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New Community Church
Kings and Queens Podcast
Apr 21, 202146:55

Lil Nas X, Hell, and Homophobia | with Darren Calhoun
Lil Nas X, Hell, and Homophobia | with Darren Calhoun
EPISODE 19
I recently got the chance to sit down with the incredible Darren Calhoun to talk about the recent Montero (Call Me By Your Name) music video by Lil Nas X that is making white evangelicals SO MAD, and hear his thoughts on how the future of the church can be one of liberation, inclusion, freedom, and celebration.
SHOW NOTES
DarrenCalhoun.com
TheManyAreHere.com
Love Greater than Fear by The Many
The Trevor Project (suicide prevention and LGBTQ youth resource)
A resource from Q Christian Fellowship on conversion/change efforts and their harm
Darren's Twitter
Darren's IG
ABOUT
Joseph and Nicole are living as bi-vocational pastors and leaders in Spokane, Washington. To support us financially or find more info about our story, visit www.thepetersons.cc.
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New Community Church
Kings and Queens Podcast
Apr 14, 202101:06:11

Where Does Your Support Money Go?
Where Does Your Support Money Go?
In our 18th episode, we’re talking about a few of the non-profits and partnerships that we support and are involved with here in Spokane. Since we are bivocational (only work at a church part time), we raise support to supplement our income. We thought we'd give our listeners a little glimpse into our vision for support raising and some of the organizations we love to partner with in our city.
SHOW NOTES
YWCA Spokane:
The Black Lens:
NAACP Spokane
NAOMI
Shalom Ministries
Lumen
90+
Feast
Rakab
Knight Lights
ABOUT
Joseph, Nicole, Haddon, and Ivy are living as bi-vocational pastors and leaders in Spokane, Washington. We are learning what it means to follow Jesus and host His presence in our home and city. To support us financially or find more info about our story, visit our website.
Patreon
Kings and Queens Podcast
Instagram
New Community Church
Mar 31, 202141:33

Grief and Joy | In Honor of Grandma Mavis
Grief and Joy | In Honor of Grandma Mavis
In our 17th episode, we’re talking about grief in death, joy in celebration, and the importance of the work of racial justice. This episode was recorded in response to the recent passing of our Grammy Mavis. We love you, Grammy!!
ABOUT
Joseph and Nicole are living as bi-vocational pastors and leaders in Spokane, Washington. We are learning to embody the love of Jesus and host His presence in our home and city. To support us or find more info about our story, visit our website.
Patreon
Nicole's Instagram
New Community Church
Mar 22, 202117:04

Power, Privilege, and Toxic Theology
Power, Privilege, and Toxic Theology
In our 16th episode, we’re talking about how our power and privilege can often lead to toxic theology and bad Bible reading. We'll look at how Jesus leveraged his power and privilege for the inclusion, affirmation, freedom, healing, salvation, and liberation for the people who were most marginalized, oppressed, abused, and rejected by society. Joseph shares a little bit about his journey with toxic theology and offers a few questions for those who might still currently hold to various forms of toxic theology, doctrine, or hermeneutics.
SHOW NOTES
Jo Luehmann Twitter
Jo Luehmann Instagram
Jo Luehmann Resources/Patreon
About us: Joseph and Nicole are living as bi-vocational pastors and leaders in Spokane, Washington. We are learning to embody the love of Jesus and host His presence in our home and city. To support us or find more info about our story, visit our website.
Patreon
Nicole's Instagram
Joseph's Twitter
New Community Church
Feb 09, 202118:32

2021 Rule of Life
2021 Rule of Life
In our 15th episode, we’re talking about our 2021 Rule of Life and answering the question “who am I becoming by what I am doing.” Our rule of life is a schedule and set of habits and relational rhythms that help us create space to be present to ourselves, God, and others, as we learn to abide in Jesus and become the best version of ourself. Essentially, it helps us dismantle my destructive rhythms and routines that prohibit us from pursuing life to the full and helps us live in alignment with our deepest passions, desires, and priorities In this episode, we both share a few of our goals for 2021 and give some tips on how to develop your own rule of life.
If you're interested in making your own, we've created an easy template for you! Click either of the links below, listen in, and
SHOW NOTES
2021 Rule of Life Template – Single
2021 Rule of Life Template – Married
ABOUT
Joseph and Nicole are living as bi-vocational pastors and leaders in Spokane, Washington. We are learning what it means to follow Jesus and host His presence in our home and city. To support us financially or find more info about our story, visit our website.
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New Community Church
Feb 03, 202149:13

White Church and Justice | Part 1
White Church and Justice | Part 1
EPISODE 14
In this episode, we’re starting a series of episodes centered around the topics of justice, white supremacy, white Evangelicalism, and how they all impact every area of our lives. We'll talk about what it's like to navigate these topics/conversations in majority white spaces and how we can begin the journey of justice in our own lives.
SHOW NOTES
Sarah Ngu's sermon "Quit Being An Ally"
Nicole's IG Post on Who To Follow
ABOUT
Joseph and Nicole are living as bi-vocational pastors and leaders in Spokane, Washington. We are learning what it means to follow Jesus and host His presence in our home and city. To support us financially or find more info about our story, visit our website.
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New Community Church
Jan 08, 202152:45

Interview with Dr. Dwight
Interview with Dr. Dwight
EPISODE 13
In this episode, we’re excited to be joined by our dad/father-in-law Dr. Dwight Peterson, as we talk about spiritual formation and what it’s like to still be in ministry in your 60’s.
We'll discuss the challenges of growing up in a white evangelical culture and how millennials and boomers (and others) can co-exist and learn from one another.
ABOUT
Joseph, Nicole, Haddon, and Ivy are living as bi-vocational pastors and leaders in Spokane, Washington. We are learning what it means to follow Jesus and host His presence in our home and city. To support us financially or find more info about our story, visit our website.
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Website
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New Community Church
Dec 21, 202054:22

Thin Spaces
Thin Spaces
We’re talking about what we call “thin spaces.” These are times and places where Heaven and Earth seem uniquely close and God manifests Himself in a tangible and profound way. Nicole will share about her experience on Girl Trip where God met her in an incredible way.
SHOW NOTES:
Bible Project Video on Heaven and Earth
Find out more about Girl Trip
ABOUT:
Joseph, Nicole, Haddon, and Ivy are living as bi-vocational pastors and leaders in Spokane, Washington. We are learning what it means to follow Jesus and host His presence in our home and city. To support us financially or find more info about our story, visit our website.
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Website
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New Community Church
Nov 03, 202051:12

We're Moving!!!
We're Moving!!!
We are moving!! Goodbye Portland, hello... Washington?!
In our 11th and final episode of Season 1, we’re going to give a little update on our life, talk about the next chapter in our ministry journey, and share how you can support us over the next few years!
Visit www.thepetersons.cc for more info on where we're going and what we're doing.
Visit www.patreon.com/thepetersons to find out more about supporting us financially.
Sep 08, 202030:05

Naming and Praying Through Disappointment: Becoming
Naming and Praying Through Disappointment: Becoming
We are taking a short break from our regular episodes and we're doing a mini series talking about Naming and Praying through Disappointment. In these 5 episodes, our goal is not to “free” ourselves from disappointment, but rather to learn how to process our disappointment before God in an emotionally healthy way that leads to our formation into the image of Jesus.
If you’ve been experiencing any kind of disappointment, grief, or frustration with the circumstances of your life as it currently is, join us as we process our emotions before God and find rest for our disappointment souls.
For more info about this podcast and our life and ministry here in Portland, visit our website at www.thepetersons.cc.
Jun 26, 202013:47

Naming and Praying Through Disappointment: Stuck
Naming and Praying Through Disappointment: Stuck
We are taking a short break from our regular episodes and we're doing a mini series talking about Naming and Praying through Disappointment. In these 5 episodes, our goal is not to “free” ourselves from disappointment, but rather to learn how to process our disappointment before God in an emotionally healthy way that leads to our formation into the image of Jesus.
If you’ve been experiencing any kind of disappointment, grief, or frustration with the circumstances of your life as it currently is, join us as we process our emotions before God and find rest for our disappointment souls.
For more info about this podcast and our life and ministry here in Portland, visit our website at www.thepetersons.cc.
Jun 25, 202012:34

Naming and Praying Through Disappointment: Comparison
Naming and Praying Through Disappointment: Comparison
We are taking a short break from our regular episodes and we're doing a mini series talking about Naming and Praying through Disappointment. In these 5 episodes, our goal is not to “free” ourselves from disappointment, but rather to learn how to process our disappointment before God in an emotionally healthy way that leads to our formation into the image of Jesus.
If you’ve been experiencing any kind of disappointment, grief, or frustration with the circumstances of your life as it currently is, join us as we process our emotions before God and find rest for our disappointment souls.
For more info about this podcast and our life and ministry here in Portland, visit our website at www.thepetersons.cc.
Jun 24, 202011:37

Naming and Praying Through Disappointment: Why?!
Naming and Praying Through Disappointment: Why?!
We are taking a short break from our regular episodes and we're doing a mini series talking about Naming and Praying through Disappointment. In these 5 episodes, our goal is not to “free” ourselves from disappointment, but rather to learn how to process our disappointment before God in an emotionally healthy way that leads to our formation into the image of Jesus.
If you’ve been experiencing any kind of disappointment, grief, or frustration with the circumstances of your life as it currently is, join us as we process our emotions before God and find rest for our disappointment souls.
For more info about this podcast and our life and ministry here in Portland, visit our website at www.thepetersons.cc.
Jun 23, 202013:50

Naming and Praying Through Disappointment: God
Naming and Praying Through Disappointment: God
We are taking a short break from our regular episodes and we're doing a mini series talking about Naming and Praying through Disappointment. In these 5 episodes, our goal is not to “free” ourselves from disappointment, but rather to learn how to process our disappointment before God in an emotionally healthy way that leads to our formation into the image of Jesus.
If you’ve been experiencing any kind of disappointment, grief, or frustration with the circumstances of your life as it currently is, join us as we process our emotions before God and find rest for our disappointment souls.
For more info about this podcast and our life and ministry here in Portland, visit our website at www.thepetersons.cc.
Jun 22, 202011:26

Can Parents and Children Sabbath?
Can Parents and Children Sabbath?
In our fifth episode, we’re going to talk about how we Sabbath as a family. We’ll share our journey of Sabbath, talk about how to rest with young children, and offer some insight into starting your own Sabbath journey.
Apr 29, 202051:15

Dating While Married
Dating While Married
In our fourth episode, we’re going to talk about how we approach dating being married. We’ll share some of our successes and struggles and offer a few suggestions on what we’ve learned over the last 7 years of marriage.
Depending on your life circumstances, living situation, finances, and family dynamics, dating while married can either be the easiest aspect of marriage or the hardest. In this podcast, we'll look at 3 insights we've gained over the years. None of these insights are revolutionary or groundbreaking but they do offer a unique perspective on dating in the Kingdom of God.
Singles, don't skip ahead! There's plenty to glean from this episode even if you're single. You're vital to the Kingdom of God!
The Petersons are bi-vocational missionaries living in Portland, OR and are learning what it means to follow Jesus and host His presence in our home and city. If you're not a Patreon supporter or you'd like to find more information on what we’re doing, feel free to visit our website at www.thepetersons.cc.
Mar 05, 202035:52

2020 Formation Goals
2020 Formation Goals
In our third episode, we’re going to share our individual and family goals for 2020. We’ll dive deep into the topic of Family Formation and answer our yearly question of “Who are we becoming by what we are doing?”
We frame our year with 2 Vision Statements each then talk about the 8 categories that frame how we set out to become more like Jesus. Each goal is specific and relates to our whole person- mind, body, spirit, soul. Those categories are: Spiritual, Marriage, Parenting, Health, Career, Finance, Time, and Relationships.
We end the episode by sharing how you can create your own 2020 Formation Goals! We've put together a worksheet filled with questions that will help you think about each category of your life and how you want to be formed into the image of Jesus through them!
For more info, visit www.thepetersons.cc
Jan 28, 202001:06:26

Transitions in Life
Transitions in Life
In our second episode, we’re going to talk about this past year of transition for our family and share a few thoughts on how we have transitioned in each stage of life.
Joseph and Nicole will share how the transition to Portland has been for them and they'll each share a few insights on how to transition well regardless of your age, relationship status, emotional state, or context.
To support us or find out more information about who we are and what we do, visit www.thepetersons.cc
Dec 27, 201945:41

Origins
Origins
In our first episode, we’re going to talk a little bit about each of our stories, our family of origin, and how we ended up here in Portland!
We start off by talking about the Format of how we'll approach each episode. Then we each share 3 words that describe our family of origin. We'll wrap up by sharing a bit into our story as a couple/family and what our life looks like right now.
To support us or find out more information about who we are and what we do, visit www.thepetersons.cc
Oct 26, 201942:06

Intro
Intro
In this our Introduction episode, we’re going to talk briefly about why we’re doing this podcast and share a bit behind the name “Kings and Queens.”
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Oct 25, 201909:41