Internet of Humans, with Jillian York & Konstantinos Komaitis
By Konstantinos Komaitis
Internet of Humans, with Jillian York & Konstantinos KomaitisDec 20, 2022
In this episode, Jillian and Konstantinos talk to activist and musician Evan Greer about Elon Musk's Twitter acquisition and his first six weeks, content moderation all the way down the "Internet stack", antitrust and surveillance capitalism and punk rock. Evan is an active writer and you can find her body of work through her personal website: https://evangreer.org. Her latest piece on Twitter was for TIME magazine: https://time.com/6228045/elon-musk-twitter-free-speech-future/
In this episode, Jillian and I talk with Anriette Esterhuysen, former Chair of the Multistakeholder Advisory Group (MAG) of the Internet Governance Forum (IGF) and former executive director of the Association for Progressive Communications (APC). We discuss a variety of issues, including the future of the Internet Governance Forum, the upcoming World Summit on Information Society (WSIS) and what it means for the future of the Internet and the IGF, human rights and the role of civil society in Africa.
This episode is edited by Javier Pallero.
A Special Conversation about Alaa Abd El Fattah
There is nothing normal with the case of Alaa Abd El Fattah, arguably Egypt’s highest profile political prisoner. This episode is a special one - I chat with Jillian who has met Alaa and they are friends. In light of the upcoming United Nations Climate Change Conference, which starts on Sunday and is hosted by Egypt, it important that the case of Alaa remains front and centre.
In our conversation, Jillian remembers meeting Alaa, his role during the Arab Spring, his contribution to the Internet and what his current state is.
There is an ongoing campaign for Alaa -- #FreeAlaa! We can all help him by continuing to mention his name!
Mahsa Alimardani and Nima Fatemi
In this episode, Jillian and I talk to Mahsa Alimardani and Nima Fatemi. Mahsa is an Internet researcher, looking at the intersection of technology and human rights, particularly in Iran; Nima is an activist and security researcher as well as the founding director of Kandoo, a nonprofit organization dedicated to empowering civil society and vulnerable populations through educational and information security services.
In our discussion, Mahsa and Nima take us through the protests in Iran and what makes this movement different, both on the ground and digitally, the role of sanctions, how the Internet and social media have facilitated or prohibited people on the ground, how they understanding digital human rights, and the role technology companies, big and small, have been playing and can play in Iran.
This episode was edited by Javier Pallero.
Season 2 of the Internet of Humans podcast starts with Javier Pallero, Access Now's International Policy Director. We discuss about the future of the internet in a world of increasing internet shutdowns, internet infrastructure and content moderation, civil society and inclusion in the digital rights space.
In this episode, we talk to Chris Riley, a global internet policy and technology executive. We talked about disruption and the internet, user agency, platform moderation and competition policy. As Mozilla's former director for public policy, we also talked a bit about the fight for freedom and where things currently stand. Finally, we discussed a bit his concept of "modularity" in the context of platform accountability, which he is currently researching. You can see Chris writing: https://www.rstreet.org/team/chris-riley/
Episode 8: Amanda Bennett
After the United States Supreme Court overturned Roe v Wade, abortion rights have become centre in American politics. One of the main concerns is the role technology and, the internet in general, can play in this new world, especially when it comes to issues of privacy and security. In this episode, we talk with Amanda Bennett, who works at the Digital Defense Fund, an organisation established in 2017 in response to the increased need for security and technology resources in the abortion rights movement after the 2016 election.
Here are some of the links for organisations Amanda mentions:
Midwest Access Coalition: https://midwestaccesscoalition.org
Online Abortion Resource Squad: https://abortionsquad.org
Repro Legal Helpline: https://www.reprolegalhelpline.org
National Association for Pregnant Women: https://twitter.com/NAPW
Special Episode: Hello! My Name is the Internet...
In this special episode of the Internet of Human, Jillian York narrates what would the Internet say if it had a voice. The story is based on an oped by me, Konstantinos Komaitis for the Tech Policy Press, available https://techpolicy.press/my-name-is-the-internet/.
Episode 7: Heather Burns
In this episode, Konstantinos and Jillian speak with Heather Burns about the Online Safety Bill in the United Kingdom. The Bill, which has been promoted as the one to make the UK the safest place to be online, has received significant criticism about the way it undermines human rights as well as important security protocols. Heather elaborates on these issues as well as why she believes the Online Safety Bill is the UK's "Internet Brexit" moment, why she has called the bill the "Nick Clegg law" and what she believes the future of the UK will be after the passage of the Bill.
Episode 6: Dia Kayyali
In this episode, we talk with Dia Kayyali, a digital rights activist and researcher who currently serves as the Associate Director for Advocacy at Mnemonic. We touched on several issues, from extremism content online to community organising and, of course, Elon Musk and Twitter. Dia is an expert on content moderation focusing on marginalised communities and they have spent many years talking about the outsized impact that content moderation has on such communities.
Episode 5: Mike Masnick
Episode 4: David Kaye
In this episode, Jilian and Konstantinos talk to David Kaye, who was the United Nations special rapporteur on the Promotion and Protection of the Right to Freedom of Opinion and Expression between August 2014 and July 2020. He is clinical professor of law at the University of California, Irvine on public international law, international humanitarian law, human rights and international criminal justice. During our chat we discussed a wide range of issues, including encryption, content moderation, platform governance, democracy and the safety vs. security argument that is underlying currently the Internet regulation narrative.
Episode 3 Maria Farrell
In this episode, Konstantinos and Jillian are speaking with Maria Farrell. Maria is an Irish author and speaker working on how to change tech so it supports us as individuals and as a species, and helps us fix the huge challenges we collectively face. During our chat, we discussed the Facebook Papers and the role of whistleblowers and, in particular, that of Frances Haugen, internet regulation and her now famous piece on the "Prodigal Tech Bro". At some point, during the discussion we touched on James C Scott: "Seeing it like a State" and the need to organise and support the tech workers movement in the US.
Episode 2 Rebecca MacKinnon
In this episode, Jillian York and Konstantinos Komaitis talk to Rebecca MacKinnon. Rebecca, a long advocate of human rights who currently serves as Vice President for Advocacy at Wikimedia Foundation, talks about about how the convergence of unchecked government actions and unaccountable government practices is threatening the future of democracy and human rights around the world. Focusing on the way the Internet has evolved over the past years, Rebecca discusses the role platforms play in the exercise of human rights and how relevant her book, "The Consent of the Networked", still is 10 years later.
Episode 1: Introductions
In this first episode, Jillian and Konstantinos introduce themselves and have a conversation about their experiences, concerns and observations over a coffee and a smoothy. They remember when they discussed the idea of the podcast, they reminisce about the first time they interacted socially with the Internet, they touch on current events and they talk about some of the issues they want to address as part of this podcast series.