
Love's Outer Limits
By Amy Marsh (Avnas Mars)

Love's Outer LimitsSep 04, 2020

Pronouns, Proximity, and Projects - Season 4, Ep. 1. 1/1/22
Put sexologist Amy Marsh (ze/zir) and erotica writer M. Christian (they/them) in the very same room to record a New Year's Day podcast and what have you got? Well, you've got an overly excited cat making background noise (because Chris is a cat loving visitor), Amy (aka Avnas) forgetting how to edit audio, and the slightly awkward excitement of sitting side by side wondering whether we should look at the mic or each other when we talk. In this episode, Dr. Marsh geeks out over zir prospects for spectrosexuality research and Chris talks about creative pursuits other than writing. It's a totally different experience than doing our podcast from afar, via Zoom. Perhaps we were a little shy... (and whose hand was on whose thigh anyway?)
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For more info re: Dr. Amy Marsh (ze/zir), go to https://amymarshsexologist.com & Twitter: @AmyMarshSexDr. For counseling sessions and interviews, write to dr.amymarshsexologist@gmail.com.
For information about The Guild of Ornamental Hermits fantasy novels, go to https://guild-of-ornamental-hermits.com.
For more info re: M.Christian (they/them) go to www.mchristian.com and Twitter: @MChristianzobop. Instagram@MChristianzobop.
Music credit from https://filmmusic.io: "Waltz of Treachery" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com). License: CC BY (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/).

Fandom Fantasies and Follies
Star Wars or Star Trek? Dragula or The Addams Family (why not both)? Do you prefer The Untamed--the live action version of the BL novel, Mo Dao Zu Shi (Grandmaster of Demonic Cultivation)--or its anime version? Are you more into Marvel Loki or Marvel Thor, or do you spurn them both in favor of fragments of actual Norse lore and reconstructive Heathenry? What is it about fandom that creates passions, raises hackles, gets us off, and also brings out some of the best and worst online human behavior?
Join Amy Marsh, sexologist, and M. Christian, erotica writer, in a personal, free-range discussion of the many facets of fandom. From pre-adolescence to the senior years, fandom can enrich our lives and imaginations, fill our homes with collectibles, and otherwise sweeten our existence. It can also inspired creativity--from sex dolls modelled after favorite characters to cos-play, fan fiction, and more.
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For more info re: Dr. Amy Marsh, go to https://amymarshsexologist.com & Twitter: @AmyMarshSexDr. For counseling sessions, write to dr.amymarshsexologist@gmail.com.
For more info re: M.Christian go to www.mchristian.com and Twitter: @MChristianzobop.
Music credit from https://filmmusic.io: "Waltz of Treachery" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com). License: CC BY (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/).

The Penis Episode
Amy Marsh, sexologist, and erotica and sexuality writer, M. Christian, talk about penises and all the expectations attached to them. Plus Dr. Marsh reads her penis "Slang and Invective" entry for The Cultural Encyclopedia of the Penis (editors: Kimmel, Milrod, & Kennedy). And Chris shares some basic ideas for bringing sex toys into partner sex.
Connect with us! https://www.facebook.com/LovesOuterLimits/
For more info re: Dr. Amy Marsh, go to https://amymarshsexologist.com & Twitter: @AmyMarshSexDr. For counseling sessions, write to dr.amymarshsexologist@gmail.com.
For more info re: M.Christian go to www.mchristian.com and Twitter: @MChristianzobop.
Signal boost to raise money for AIDS prevention and treatment: Disasterina's AIDS/Lifecycle sponsorship page. Send dollars!
Music credit from https://filmmusic.io: "Waltz of Treachery" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com). License: CC BY (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/).

"We're NOT Thinking About Sex"
We're back! Did you miss us? We've taken a break since our last podcast in January but spring has sprung and here we are, perky as can be but with no place to go and no one to go with us. But life is not without its interesting moments and so we touch on topics such as Lil Nas X and his brilliant song and video Montero (Call My By Your Name) (we're fans!); Transgender Day of Visibility (3/31) and our own non-binary discoveries; and life in these pandemic times. So listen as we try to avoid the topic of sex but just can't help ourselves anyway.
Support Lil Nas X by purchasing his newest hit via https://lilnasx.lnk.to/Montero/itunes and other outlets.
Read "My Nonbinary Coming Out Story" by Dr. Amy Marsh.
Connect with us! https://www.facebook.com/LovesOuterLimits/
For more info re: Dr. Amy Marsh, go to https://amymarshsexologist.com & Twitter: @AmyMarshSexDr. For counseling sessions, write to dr.amymarshsexologist@gmail.com.
For more info re: M.Christian, go to www.mchristian.com and Twitter: @MChristianzobop.
Music credit from https://filmmusic.io: "Waltz of Treachery" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com). License: CC BY (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/).
(Season 3/Episode 1)

Endurance: The Theme for 2021
With a burgeoning pandemic still claiming thousands of lives each day, and with white supermacists seemingly determined to loot, maim, and even kill those who disagree with them about the 2020 presdidential election, Dr. Amy Marsh, sexologist, and M. Christian, erotica writer, are tired. Each co-host has been sheltering in place in two different regions since mid-March, absolutely alone except for feline companionship, and so they wonder how much more can they take and WHAT is it going to take to get through the next several months? In this episode, they share their own personal strategies as well as some stress-busting ideas from positive psychology and other sources.
Please note: recommendations for personal self-care are not intended as a subsitute or a "band-aid" for widespread, systemic, social justice change.

Have Yourself a Merry Little Saturnalia
Sexologist Amy Marsh and erotica writer M. Christian discuss Covid-19 pandemic precautions, Chris's new roommate, and the celebration of all things Saturnalia--pandemic style!
Here is the link to the Max Miller Tasting History video featuring a recipe for Golbi, Cato the Elder's deep fried cheese balls.
Shout Outs: Why not support independent artists when you shop for seasonal gifts? Be sure to check out MarvelsInMotion.com for Ave Rose's exquisite sculpture and jewelry. This online gift shop supports the creation of the proposed Marvels In Motion Museum of Automata and Related Arts, to be located in Los Angeles. You can also find amazing art, including portraits of Dragula stars, and other amusing goodies at Disaterina's Etsy Store.
Disaterina and Ave will be performing 'Tis the Sleazon--an interactive story telling session of Christmas smut-- December 28th (7 PM PST, 11 PM EST) on The Satanic Temple's streaming video. Get tickets at TSTVHQ.com. If you aren't quite sure what that means, check out Disasterina's newest video, Hollandaise Sleazon.
You can also support independent writers! Consider giving one of M.Christian's books as a gift!
Correction: The term "Judeo-Christian" was mistakenly used in a sentence about Christmas. We apologize for this mistake and for any distress this may cause listeners. We do know that Christmas is not associated with Judaism and that the term itself is problematic and has become something of an alt.right dogwhistle.

Trick or Treat with Love's Outer Limits (Get Out and Vote!)
What do Dame Edith Sitwell, the Hellfire Club, Goetic demons, the 2020 election, and a review of Disasterina and Ave Rose's performance at The Satanic Temple Virtual Mansion all have in common? Why, they're part of our show! Join us for a quirky take on the Halloween/Samhain season as we trick or treat through a very unusual neighborhood!
And if you want to catch Disasterina and Ave Rose's second TST performance on Thurs., Oct. 29, buy tickets here. Only $6.66. Show is at 6 PM PSDT.
Halloween interlude music. Seventh Seal by Kevin MacLeod. Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/4340-seventh-seal. License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
Image: Colour-shift deliberately applied on the image of a burning candle in order to enhance the visibility of the colour-zones. Picture taken (on 25 Feb 2006), processed, and uploaded by Roger McLassus.Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 Unported license.

M. Christian Erotica and Science Fiction
Love's Outer Limits co-host M. Christian (aka Chris) opens up about his long career as a writer of erotica, science fiction, horror, and so much more! He reads from two stories, "How Much?" and "Koi No Yokan," the tender story of two AI falling in love. Links to his most recent books, Horrorsexual, Hard Drive, and an anthology, Nine to Eternity, may be found on his website or via his twitter feed @MChristianzobop.
Listeners will want a reminder that our Episode 3 guests, Disasterina and Ave Rose, are presenting some of their new art at The Satanic Temple virtual event on Oct. 28th and 29th. Day tickets are only $6.66 each. Please support these amazing artists and performers!

The Guild of Ornamental Hermits: A Queer & Magic-Saturated Fantasy Series
Co-host M. Christian graciously interviews co-host Dr. Amy about her Guild of Ornamental Hermits novels, a fantasy series focused on the magical adventures of "the Hermits," aging denizens of funky Hermitville, a farm and arts collective located in the Puna district of Hawai'i Island. The books feature clown-obsessed Elves, wicked real estate speculators, supernatural bad guys, a determined documentary film crew, and a dimension-hopping giant salamander, among other things. A majority of the characters are LGBTQIA and not everyone is white. The books are called (1) The Dire Deeds of the Guild of Ornamental Hermits, (2) The Witching Work of the Guild of Ornamental Hermits, (3) The Queerest Quest of the Guild of Ornamental Hermits, and (4) The Perilous Past of the Guild of Ornamental Hermits. The third book is nearing completion and the fourth is in planning stages..
Dr. Amy read excerpts from Chapters Eight and Nine of The Dire Deeds during the show (ze got the chapter numbers wrong in the podcast). A recording of Dr. Amy reading the first chapter of Dire Deeds may be found here: https://guild-of-ornamental-hermits.com
The Dire Deeds is due to be published in the near future by FuturesPastEditions.com.
Correction: The Tolkien elf language is "Quenya," not "Quenta."

Interview: Disasterina Dragkwene & Ave Rose
Disasterina--"LA's most Disasterous Dragkwene"--and Ave Rose--artist, writer, designer, singer, and performer extraordinaire--share a bit of their lives, love, activism, and art with us in this interview recorded Oct. 5, 2020. Disasterina is known to fans as a "final five" star of Dragula Season 2, with a cameo in Season 3. In addition to alternative drag, Disasterina is a musician, writer, visual artist, and probably "all kinds of other things" as we like to say here on Love's Outer Limits.
We enjoyed conversing with this multi-talented duo as their disembodied voices reached us from their bedroom in Culver City.
Disasterina and Ave's most spectacular co-creation to date is SadoPsychiatrist, a witty and wacky horror comedy show found on Amazon Prime. Disasterina plays Dr. Sado, a thrill-killing therapist with more than an axe to grind. Ave Rose plays a variety of roles, including her dueling drag king persona, Sleazy Mancini. SadoPsychiatrist also features several other Dragula stars, including Biqtch Puddin', Foxie Adjuia, Felony Dodger, Abhora, Xochi Mochi, and Meatball.
You can find Disasterina and Ave Rose on YouTube, Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook. (Check out the Cybernetic Circus with Disasterina as a whip-smart Ringmistress!). And don't miss their Oct. 28th and 29th appearances, showing demon sculptures and reading demon stories, at The Satanic Estate virtual openhouse [Oct.9th-31st] on TSTVHQ.com (daily tickets, a monthly pass, and gala Halloween tickets available here).
Love's Outer Limits was deeply honored and pleased to have this time with Disasterina and Ave and we look forward to more!

Lonely for Touch
In this episode, Dr. Amy Marsh and M. Christian address the damaging experiences of loneliness and touch deprivation, especially during this pandemic. This episode features a 12-minute Hypnosis for Touch Nourishment recording at the end of the show. Please don't drive while listening to the hypnotic portion.
Show Notes:
M. Christian's Future of Sex article on Lonely Lovers Turning to Sex Dolls.
Loneliness Resources:
Senior Friendship Line (800)971-0016
SAGE National LGBT Elder Hotline (877)360-5428
All the Lonely People - documentary film in progress
Touch Resources:
For weighted blankets and other touch stimulus products: www.therapyshoppe.com

What We Did on Our Summer Vacation
In the first episode of LOL Season 2, Dr. Amy Marsh and M. Christian share details about their busy but isolated creative lives, diss catastrophic gender reveal parties, and discuss comfort measures and self-care in these trying times. CW: foul language mixed with dry wit.
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Love's Outer Limits - Announcing Season Two!
Sexologist Dr. Amy Marsh (ze, zir) and sex writer and futurist M. Christian (he, him) share some of their thrilling plans for the Season Two of Love's Outer Limits, now on Anchor.FM.
The first full episode will be posted on Saturday, September 12th!
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