
Cover to Cover with Mary Elizabeth Jackson
By Mary Elizabeth Jackson
Cover to Cover is a podcast featuring author interviews from around the globe. Hostess Mary Elizabeth Jackson has lively conversations with authors about their books, journeys, tips, and tricks of the writing world. Mary is an award-winning, International Best Selling author, a certified special needs and disability advocate, live streamer, podcaster, ghostwriter, educator, and speaker. Everyone has a story and Mary loves to share those stories with others. Connect here
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Dr. Deji Ayoade-Underground: A Memoir of Hope, Faith, and the American Dream
Dr. Deji Ayoade-Underground: A Memoir of Hope, Faith, and the American Dream
Cover to Cover with Mary Elizabeth JacksonMar 28, 2023
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Dr. Deji Ayoade-Underground: A Memoir of Hope, Faith, and the American Dream
Dr. Deji Ayoade-Underground: A Memoir of Hope, Faith, and the American Dream
Dr. ‘Deji Ayoade is the first African immigrant to become a nuclear missile operator in the United States Air Force and serve in three U.S. military branches. He’s a trained veterinary surgeon, combat medic, Nuclear Weapon System SME, Senior Program Analyst, and U.S. Space Force Department of Defense Civilian at the Pentagon. He turned to storytelling as solace from an early life of poverty and loss. His new book is Underground: A Memoir of Hope, Faith, and the American Dream.
Learn more at: https://dejiayoade.com/
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Mar 28, 202331:36

Carol Schultz-Powered By People: How Talent-Centric Organizations Master Recruitment, Retention, and Revenue (and How to Build One)
Carol Schultz-Powered By People: How Talent-Centric Organizations Master Recruitment, Retention, and Revenue (and How to Build One)
CAROL SCHULTZ, founder and CEO of Vertical Elevation. She is a talent equity and leadership advisory expert. Recognized for her proficiency in corporate leadership, Carol has spent three decades helping executives gain clarity in their careers, make bold leadership moves, and create cultures of performance. Schultz and her team have helped hundreds of companies—from seed-stage pre-initial public offerings to publicly traded companies—transform their organizations and create sustainable, talent-centric cultures that run at maximum efficiency. She hosts the popular podcast Authentically Successful and author of the new book Powered By People: How Talent-Centric Organizations Master Recruitment, Retention, and Revenue (and How to Build One) (June 7, 2022). Learn more at verticalelevation.com.
GUEST WEBSITE: https://verticalelevation.com/
SOCIAL MEDIA:
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Mar 04, 202322:35

Paul M. White-Tales of the Great Outdoors
Paul M. White-Tales of the Great Outdoors
Paul Michael White is a professional speaker, mental health counselor, teacher, and avid fly-fisher. He is the author of "Fishing for Reality" as well as a contributor to his new book from Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada - "Tales of the Great Outdoors."
Learn more at www.paulwhite.ca.
Paul Michael White is ready to share his insights about personal development and fly fishing with people of all walks of life. These ideas will help listeners to achieve better health and wealth and improve their relationships, career, and life.
Feb 25, 202324:12

Elizabeth Lawless-Africa American Western Legends Yesterday
Elizabeth Lawless-Africa American Western Legends Yesterday
Elizabeth “Liz” Lawless
Creator • Author • Host • Entrepreneur
Multicultural Western Legends
Liz is the author of fifteen books the most recent one, “African American Western Legends: Yesterday.” She is host of Wild West Diversity Livestream/Podcast. For 30 years she has served as Publicist/Historian for Cowboys of Color Rodeos, the largest multicultural rodeo in the country. Liz also speaks about “The Economic Impact of Black Cowboys: Yesterday & Today” on livestreams as well as social studies conferences, schools and libraries.
African American Western Legends: Yesterday tells the story of 17 ordinary individuals who lived extraordinary lives during difficult times – because of their choices and actions. These are the rarely and untold stories of Historical Legends who contributed to the settling of the American Wild West that most people have never heard. They were trappers, midwives, horse trainers, Buffalo Soldiers, cowboys, cowgirls, musicians and more. Great role models for children (and adults) today. We hope you will share these stories with others.
www.LizLawless.com
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Feb 17, 202328:28

Tessa Lynne Alburn-Accessing Intuition, Healing with Energy
Tessa Lynne Alburn-Accessing Intuition, Healing with Energy
Tessa Lynne Alburn believes everyone can live empowered lives with the right tools and guidance. A certified life and business coach for women, Tessa brings her extensive experience as a trainer-facilitator of live and virtual events, along with her background in healing and soul retrieval, to help women who are determined to express their true voice.
She guides you to access your intuition, make better decisions and live with great joy and confidence!.
Tessa is intuitive, compassionate and unexpected. Her favorite past-times include hiking, solo SCUBA diving, and star-gazing. Her top 4 values are beauty, variety, spirituality and compassion.
Feb 07, 202322:13

James Hipkin-Marketing and Business
James Hipkin-Marketing and Business
Over a 40-year career, James worked in marketing and advertising at a high level. Since 2010, he has built his clients’ businesses with digital marketing.
James is an accomplished, forward-thinking marketing professional. His clients included Sprint, Apple, Wells Fargo online bank, Nestlé, and Toyota. They appreciate his practical, no-nonsense approach. He has scars and many stories to share.
His stories are always valuable and entertaining. His humor and infectious good-natured approach to marketing are fun and practical. But he never loses track of what’s important. Marketing, done well, creates value for customers and the business.
Feb 04, 202313:13

Suzanne W. Guinn- Poems of Everyday Life
Suzanne W. Guinn- Poems of Everyday Life
About Poet Suzanne W. Guinn: Suzanne Guinn began writing poetry at the encouragement of her high school
English teacher, Mrs. Agnus Smith. She has expressed herself through many styles of poetry and on a variety of
subjects. She loves the creativity that poetry brings. Having a musical background in her education, the writing of
poetry is a natural step in using words with their rhythmic ways. She also expresses her creativity in fine art
paintings, jewelry design and photography. She also has been a family history researcher since 1984. She is a wife,
mother of 4 and grandmother of 6. Though a native of New York State she has lived in the Midwest or South since
the age of 8. She earned a bachelor’s degree in music/piano (B.S., Southeastern Bible College, Birmingham, AL), a
graduate degree in Library Science (MLS, Emporia State, Emporia, KS) and later retired in 2014 after almost 30
years in her field. In 2022, she earned her Master’s degree in Fine Art (MA-FA, Academy of Art University, San
Francisco, CA). She is a member of the Daughters of the American Revolution and Westphalia Lion’s Club,
International. She has composed original music and has arranged several hymns. She is accomplished in fine art
and has large collection of both fine art and poured paintings. Other books from Suzanne are forthcoming.
Author web site: www.crowningtouchartistry.weebly.com
Available for purchase at Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Poems-Everyday-Life-Suzanne-
Guinn/dp/B0BHKZFVG9/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3NCE7728I79KC&keywords=Poems+of+Everyday+Life%2C+suzanne+gui
nn&qid=1673910710&sprefix=poems+of+everyday+life%2C+suzanne+guin%2Caps%2C707&sr=8-1
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guinn/1140785705?ean=9781664248885
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Feb 01, 202324:30

Ora Nadrich- Time to Awaken: Changing the World with Conscious Awareness
Ora Nadrich- Time to Awaken: Changing the World with Conscious Awareness
ORA NADRICH is a pioneering Mindfulness expert, international keynote speaker and coach, and the founder and president of the Institute for Transformational Thinking. A sought-after expert in the fields of Mindfulness, transformational thinking, and self-discovery, she is the author of Says Who? How One Simple Question Can Change the Way You Think Forever, and Live True: A Mindfulness Guide to Authenticity, named “one of the 100 Best Mindfulness Books of All Time” by BookAuthority. Her new book is Time To Awaken: Changing the World with Conscious Awareness (IFTT, Nov. 18, 2022).
Learn more at oranadrich.com
https://www.oranadrich.com/11-11-21
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Jan 27, 202328:08

Terry Shepherd-Chasing Karma
Terry Shepherd-Chasing Karma
Terry Shepherd grew up in Michigan and began writing fiction in high school. After a long career in the corporate world, he took up the craft full time in 2018. He writes detective fiction for both adults and kids from his home on the Atlantic Ocean in Jacksonville, Florida.
Chasing Karma is the third in the Jessica Ramirez series. He brings back some of the lovable characters in the first two books. Terry is also releasing a new middle grade series.
Best place to connect is www.terryshepherd.com
Jan 24, 202338:18

Ettenig Sayam- Aren and Elise
Ettenig Sayam- Aren and Elise
Aren and Elise is a romantic story based on the Biblical story of Abraham and Sarah. A beautiful love story proving love has no boundaries. Ettenig Sayam is a second generation Haitian. Her parents came to the United States during the early days of the
Civil Rights movement. Ettenig Sayam grew up in New Jersey where she attended Catholic schools and later
attended Drew University, a Methodist College. She studied French and eventually did a year study in Tours, France
and later two years in Paris to pursue a Master’s Degree in French as well as teach.
Ettenig is married with two children and a dog. She lives in Massachusetts where she worked many years in the
financial services industry as a compliance professional. She practiced law and did pro bono work. She now divides
her time between learning chocolate making and bee keeping and taking on occasional legal assignments. Her author
website www.etttenigsayambooks.com
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Jan 23, 202329:58

William J. Carl-Assassin's Manuscript
William J. Carl-Assassin's Manuscript
William J. Carl, PhD, a Greek scholar, screenwriter, and playwright, is a former professor, seminary president, and pastor, who has spoken at Oxford, Cambridge, Princeton, Cornell, Boston University, Carnegie Mellon, and internationally in Russia, South Africa, India, China, South Korea, Taiwan, Rwanda, Canada, and is the author of eight nonfiction books. He also lectures on the Brain at medical schools and medical conferences and loves hiking in the mountains, which inspired key parts of the story.
You can find him here-www.lecontepublishing.com
grab his book here-https://a.co/d/iSWdMsJ
Jan 05, 202338:07

Lynda Sunshine West-Helping Five Million People Tell Their Stories and Get Published
Lynda Sunshine West-Helping Five Million People Tell Their Stories and Get Published
Meet Lynda Sunshine West¶
Book Publisher, Speaker, 17 times #1 International Bestselling Author, Executive Film Producer of Wish Man, Red Carpet Interviewer, and Philanthropist¶
Founder & CEO of Action Takers PublishingTM¶
She ran away at 5 years old and was gone an entire week. She came home riddled with fears and became a people-pleaser. At age 51, she decided to face one fear every day for an entire year. In doing so, she gained an exorbitant amount of confidence and now uses what she learned to fulfill her mission to empower 5 million women and men to share their stories with the world to make a greater impact on the planet. Lynda Sunshine West is the Founder and CEO of Action Takers Publishing, a Speaker, 16 Times #1 International Bestselling and Award-Winning Author, Executive Contributing Author at Brainz Magazine, Executive Film Producer, and Red Carpet, Interviewer.
She believes in cooperation and collaboration and loves connecting with like-minded people.
Having grown up in a volatile, physically, mentally and verbally abusive alcoholic household and marrying someone just like her dad, Lynda’s voice was stifled far too long. It left her feeling suppressed, ignored, and judged, which made her shut down.
At age 51, she found a life coach who helped her discover that she has value and that it was time for her to share her voice and speak out loud. In doing so, she was met with praise, recognition, and acknowledgment.
Lynda Sunshine no longer sits in the back of the room, but now speaks on stage, interviews stars on the red carpet, makes tv and podcast appearances, publishes books, and creates positive and uplifting communities for her clients.¶
She proudly donates a percentage of her profits to The Giving Angels, a 501(c)(3) nonprofit.
Email lynda@actiontakerspublishing.com
Phone 619-733-7393
Website https://www.actiontakerspublishing.com/ ⏎
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lyndasunshinewest
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LinkedIn www.linkedin.com/in/lyndasunshinewest ⏎
YouTube https://www.youtube.com/womenactiontakers
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Dec 19, 202232:58

Ted Clark-Buy and Build CEO: Leveraging Private Equity to Build a Winning Global Business
Ted Clark-Buy and Build CEO: Leveraging Private Equity to Build a Winning Global Business
Theodore (Ted) Clark is a businessman, entrepreneur, and investor with over 40 years of experience as a senior executive in both public and private equity-owned specialty chemicals companies. Starting as a shipping clerk, he rose through the ranks to become President & CEO of Products Research & Chemical Corporation (PRC), a global leader in aircraft and construction sealants and coatings. His new book, Buy and Build CEO: Leveraging Private Equity to Build a Winning Global Business (Dudley Court Press, Sept. 13, 2022), chronicles Clark’s 14-year adventure in the world of high-stakes, high-rewards business.
Learn more at www.tedclarkauthor.com
http://www.tedclarkauthor.com/
Twitter @TedClarkAuthor
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Dec 04, 202230:46

Bonnie MacBird-What Child is This?
Bonnie MacBird-What Child is This?
Bonnie MacBird is passionate about Victorian London and Sherlock Holmes. She lives in an 1890
building right off Baker Street, and fell in love with Holmes as a schoolgirl in her native California.
After many years in the entertainment industry as a film executive, Emmy-winning producer and
screenwriter – she wrote the original screenplay to TRON –she now writes the critically acclaimed
Sherlock Holmes Adventure Series for HarperCollins, bringing the much-loved detective back, in
traditional style, in full-length adventures. Meticulous research, a flair for deductions and a decided
sense of humor have turned these into fan favorites. Art in the Blood was translated into seventeen
languages and was followed by Unquiet Spirits; The Devil’s Due and a prequel, The Three Locks.
Bonnie is active in the Sherlockian community in both the US (where she is a BSI member) and the
UK, where she is a council member of The Sherlock Holmes Society of London. She is also the co-
convenor of the London CWA meetings, a member of the RSA, and lectures regularly on Sherlock
Holmes, writing, and creativity.
For further information about Bonnie MacBird visit: http://www.macbird.com
Twitter:@macbird / Instagram: bmacbird / Facebook: SherlockHolmesAdventureSeries
Get your copy here https://a.co/d/bPZ40wb
Dec 02, 202238:07

Ronni Tichenor and Jennie Weaver- Healing Begins with Us- Breaking the Cycle of Trauma and Abuse and Rebuilding the Sibling Bond
Ronni Tichenor and Jennie Weaver- Healing Begins with Us- Breaking the Cycle of Trauma and Abuse and Rebuilding the Sibling Bond
Two siblings Ronni Tichenor- Sociologist and Jennie Weaver-Nurse Practitioner share their journey of childhood trauma and abuse and how to heal themselves and their relationships and rebuild a sibling bond. Incredible ladies and story.
RONNI TICHENOR has a PhD in sociology, specializing in family studies, from the
University of Michigan. JENNIE WEAVER received her degree from the
Vanderbilt School of Nursing is a board-certified family nurse practitioner
with over 25 years of experience in family practice and mental health.
Their new book, Healing Begins with Us: Breaking the Cycle of Trauma and
Abuse and Rebuilding the Sibling Bond (Heart Wisdom LLC, April 5, 2022),
shares their inspiring and hopeful story of healing from their painful
upbringing.
You can find them
https://www.amazon.com/HEALING-BEGINS-US-Breaking-Rebuilding-ebook/dp/B09WM24GTK/ref=sr_1_1?crid=B6OCO0ADB3HM&keywords=healing+begins+with+u
Nov 04, 202235:50

James Stokes-A.K.A Jason Voorhees
James Stokes-A.K.A Jason Voorhees
James Stokes began his acting career while taking drama class at Hopkinsville High school. He performed in Alice in Wonderland and Grease. He rediscovered his passion for acting in 2015 when he appeared in a short film The Switch. His credits now include The Silent Natural, the international action film Adrenaline, and TV shows such as Snapped, Mark of a killer and Stranger Things and recently has taken on the role of Jason Voorhees in Voorhees Night of the Beast. Two "Jason" movies are out on YouTube.
James has broadened his horizons by working as a Producer on several films over the last few years. His Producer credits include Louisa, Reunion from Hell, Reunion from Hell 2 and Grievance. James rode professionally with the International Pro Rodeo Association for 3 years and was a disc jockey for 5 years, and a license EMT for 13 years. James is also with N2Books Publishing Company.
Connect with him here-
https://linktr.ee/ActorJamesStokes
Oct 27, 202229:54

Thornton Cline-Who's Teaching Who
Thornton Cline-Who's Teaching Who
Thornton Cline has written over 1,500 published songs, 150 recorded songs, 38 adult and children’s traditionally published books, and has been nominated multiple times for Grammy and Dove Awards. Cline has been honored with “Songwriter of the Year” twice in a row and received a platinum certification for sales of over one million album units in Europe. Cline has had his songs recorded by Engelbert Humperdinck, Gloria Gaynor, Rebecca Holden, Gary Puckett, Tim Murphy, Ray Peterson, Billy and Sarah Gaines, Tammy Trent, Matt Newton, Tommy Gardner, Luckie Boy, JoZie among others. Thornton Cline has had his original songs appear in TV and major films. Cline has had ten number one and three top 5 charted songs on the Billboard, Euro Indie Network Hot 100 charts, and World Indie Music Top 100 charts. In 2017, Cline was awarded first place for the Maxy Literary Award for “Children’s Book of the Year” with Mary Elizabeth Jackson. Cline’s books have charted into the top 10 Amazon charts. Cline was inducted into the Tennessee Songwriters Association International Songwriters Hall of Fame in April of 2021. This year, Cline was elected as a new board member of the Stars Foundation, an international non-profit, celebrity humanitarian aid organization designed to aid orphan children around the planet.
You can connect with Thornton Cline at
http://www.thorntoncline.com/
https://www.facebook.com/thornton.cline
https://www.instagram.com/thorntoncline/
purchase book here https://www.amazon.com/Whos-Teaching-Who-Thornton-Cline/dp/B0BCD5C7CT/ref=sr_1_1?crid=12JZDH2Z1NEOO&keywords=thornton+cline&qid=1665155211&qu=eyJxc2
Oct 07, 202229:58

Dr. Natalie Forest-Revolutionize Your Life Your Way, Unlocking the Hidden Power of Patterns
Dr. Natalie Forest-Revolutionize Your Life Your Way, Unlocking the Hidden Power of Patterns
Dr. Natalie is a Revolutionary Rule Breaker! A different kind of Bi-lingual Intuitive Transformation Mentor, Spiritual Confidence and Self-Love Coach, International Best-Selling Author & International Keynote Speaker. She is a TV host, Event Producer, and first and foremost a Humanitarian. Through her unique process “The Hidden Power of Patterns” she has enabled thousands of people to find their mission and create the life they desire. Dr. Natalie firmly believes that everyone is happy and successful with great relationships and as little stress as possible. How? On a personal, transformational journey, Natalie assists you in re-connecting with YOU and understanding your Purpose, embracing your Potential, and achieving your Dreams. Natalie uses her spiritual assets and modalities in tandem with coaching and analytical strategies to get you where you can be – as your amazing self.
You can find Dr. Natalie Forest at https://www.facebook.com/natalie.forest
Oct 07, 202231:32

Stewart Pearce- Diana The Voice of Change
Stewart Pearce- Diana The Voice of Change
Stewart Pearce is the voice of a generation. Using his gifts to help others find their authenticity, he has helped people like Princess Diana and Margaret Thatcher among many. He shares his intimate life tales with the late Queen Elizabeth II and Princess Diana and gives us a glimpse into royal life. Stewart is a champion of women, helping to empower them to find their true voice.
Legendary Master of Voice, Voice Alchemist & Angelic Emissary – STEWART PEARCE was the Head of Voice at the Webber Douglas Academy London from 1980-1997, helped pioneer Shakespeare’s Globe Theatre for Mark Rylance between 1997-2010, and has coached luminaries such as Eddie Redmayne, Matthew Goode, Hugh Bonneville, Emilia Clarke, Margaret Thatcher, Mo Mowlem, Benazir Bhutto, Diana Princess of Wales, & Anita Roddick.
Stewart has also been an Angelic Emissary for thirty-five years and has published “Angels and the Keys to Paradise”, “The Angels of Atlantis” Book & Oracle, the “Angelic Heart Sigils Oracle”, “The Hearts Note” and “The Alchemy of Voice”, alongside several award-winning Sonic Meditation recordings. Stewart’s current publication is “DIANA THE VOICE OF CHANGE” – revelations about Diana’s life principles and the essence that ignited her radiance.
You can connect with him here-
http://www.dianathevoiceofchange.com/
http://www.stewartpearce.com/
Sep 27, 202250:18

Michele-Chynoweth- The Wise Man
Michele-Chynoweth- The Wise Man
Best-selling, award-winning author Author Michele Chynoweth shares her latest ripped from the headlines suspense thriller The Wise Man. She feels compelled to take stories from the Bible and write them in modern-day fiction thrillers. Hoping to entertain both believers and non-believers alike and maybe bring people back to the Bible. You can connect with Michele and get a copy of her books here.
https://www.amazon.com/Wise-Man-Michele-Chynoweth-ebook/dp/B0B19PW3XR/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1AZXHO0XU1UP9&keywords=michele+chynoweth&qid=1663461185&sprefix=Mic
https://www.facebook.com/ModernDayBibleStories
https://www.instagram.com/michelechynoweth/
https://michelechynoweth.com/
https://www.youtube.com/c/michelechynoweth
https://twitter.com/AuthorMichele
https://www.linkedin.com/in/michelechynoweth/
Sep 18, 202232:37

Ed Davis-The Last Professional
Ed Davis-The Last Professional
Author Ed Davis shares his newest book The Last Professional. He has taken his adventurous life living on the railways all over America and Canada, hanging with the carneys, and hobos, and written an incredible adventure story. He teaches us about the Hobo code of Ethics and tells us how his travels taught him so much about our country and mankind.
You can find out more about Ed, purchase his book, and connect with him here.
https://www.facebook.com/ed.davis.5686a
https://www.amazon.com/Last-Professional-Ed-Davis/dp/1951122259/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1663459978&sr=8-1
https://www.instagram.com/eddavisauthor/
Sep 18, 202229:43

Ashley Davis Bush-Light After Loss A Spiritual Guide for Comfort, Hope, and Healing
Ashley Davis Bush-Light After Loss A Spiritual Guide for Comfort, Hope, and Healing
On this episode of Cover to Cover Mary E Jackson talks with licensed psychotherapist Ashley Davis Bush about her new book release called Light After Loss- A Spiritual Guide for Comfort, Hope, and Healing. Ashley shares with us her light shift perspectives and how we can apply them starting today in our lives for grief, loss, and everyday challenges.
Sep 14, 202225:28