Cousins By Blood
By Matt Duff
Cousins By BloodMay 23, 2023
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Cousins By Blood is a podcast investigation into a double homicide that took place in Dallas in the year 2000. Ivan Cantu was convicted of killing his cousin James and James's fiancé Amy, but Ivan has maintained his innocence. New evidence has been discovered and new suspects uncovered. With Ivan on death row, the clock is ticking to his execution day unless this new evidence is enough for Ivan to get a new trial.
Episode 1: If The Jeans Don't Fit
Episode 2: When Ivan Met Amy
Episode 3: Not His First Rodeo
While Ivan Cantu and Amy Boettcher were on their way to Arkansas to visit her parents and announce their engagement, the murdered bodies of James and Amy Kitchen were found in Dallas on November 4th 2000.In this episode, we will hear from Amy B's...
Episode 4: Under the Couch Cushion
Pre Episode 5 Recap
This is an 8 minute recap of the first 4 episodes.
Episode 5: The Trash Can Without a Lid
So far, we've been following Ivan and Amy and their trip to Arkansas. But, a lot was going on back in Dallas immediately following the murders.This episode we hear from Ivan's mother, Sylvia, and the revelation discovered about the evidence found in...
Episode 6: Put the Plastic Out
Episode 7: The Roommate
Episode 8: The Jailhouse Tapes
Episode 9: Let's Go to Cancun
This episode chronicles Ivan's time in jail and his court appointed attorneys. Sylvia and Penny share their accounts leading up to the 2001 trial.Did Ivan really confess to the murders or did his lawyer play his own mother against him?
Episode 10: What Happened to the Ring?
Episode 11: Ivan's Wife
Episode 12: The Rolex
In this episode, the rolex that Ivan was convicted of stealing, is located. This is proof that Amy committed perjury in her police statements. More is learned about about all of the families... the Kitchens, the Mosquedas, and the Cantus.
Episode 13: Finding Amy
This episode, Eichenberg and I head up to Minnesota in search of Amy. Ivan's lawyer discusses the discovery of the rolex. And there are more revelations about the bloody pair of jeans in the trashcan.
Episode 13 Bonus: Amy's 2nd Statement
Amy's 2nd Statement
Episode 14: What's Amy Been Up To?
This episode we hear from Amy's neighbor "TJ" and what she has witnessed over the past 3 years. We also hear the trial testimony from Amy's brother Jeff. Jeff and Amy were the only two to ever see Ivan with a gun. Ever.
Episode 15: The State's Star Witness
This episode Amy Boettcher is interviewed. She recounts what she says happened and reveals new information about the ring.
Pre Episode 16 - Case Update: Amy Boettcher Passed Away
On 2/2/21 Amy Boettcher passed away. TJ, Amy's former neighbor, discusses what she has heard about Amy's death.
Episode 16: One Single Shell Casing
In this episode, problems with the ballistics in this case are discussed. A shell casing found at the crime scene lead 2 ballistics experts to believe a second gun may have been used in the murders. Also, Eichenberg interviews Ivan and we hear if she finds him credible.
Episode 17: The Syndicate
In this episode, new information is discovered indicating that Amy B was wearing an engagement ring prior to the murders. Which would indicate, there would have been a second ring in play. Also, new revelations are uncovered about phone calls and a mysterious syndicate.
Episode 18: "Raina"
Ivan has said for 20 years, that the ring Amy B was wearing the night of the murders belonged to Raina. After 20 years, "Raina" has finally been located. In this episode, Sylvia goes over to Raina’s house to ask her about the ring. Also, the sub rosa hearing in Ivan’s trial is covered.
Episode 19: The DNA
The DNA is discussed in this episode. As well as, a call with Ivan from 2020 prior to his DNA hearing.
Episode 20: Bad Blood
This episode, the origin of the 34x32 Arizona brand jeans is explored and we hear from a close friend of James and Amy Kitchen.
Episode 21: Carlos and Anthony (part 1)
In Part 1 of Season 2 Finale, we hear Carlos and Anthony's side of the story, their account of Ivan and the time leading up to the murders.
Episode 22: Carlos and Anthony (part 2)
In Part 2 of Season 2 Finale, more is uncovered about James's drug business and mortgage business. It is disclosed if there is any hard evidence tying Carlos and Anthony to the murders or setting up Ivan. And the upcoming investigation is established...
Episode 23: The Thumbprint
In this Season 3 opener, the most significant piece of evidence tying Ivan to the murders is investigated -- the thumbprint found on the magazine of the murder weapon.
A video presentation and excerpt images of the fingerprint report is available at
Episode 24: The Murder Weapon
In this episode, the origin of the murder weapon is investigated.
Episode 25: Gambino
The investigation into the origin of the murder weapon continues, as a previous interview with Gambino is analyzed.
Episode 26: Frank, the Roommate (Part 1)
At the time of James and Amy Kitchen's murders, there was another person living in their home. This episode begins the 2 part investigation of Frank, the roommate.
Episode 27: Frank, the Roommate (Part 2)
Frank's actions and whereabouts on November 4th 2000 are investigated.
Episode 28: Oak Cliff
In this episode, the anonymous tip that someone else killed James and Amy Kitchen is investigated, as well as other Oak Cliff connections are explored.
Episode 29: The Pizza Man
In this episode, a witness comes forward who says he saw a man driving a similar vehicle and had a similar appearance, as Ivan described "the Pizza Man." Ivan said a man, dressed as a Dominos Pizza Man, came into his apartment, put a gun to his head and told him James owed them 250,000 dollars for drugs. Ivan said the Pizza Man fired at the wall, to show him he meant business. Ivan said the Pizza Man is the reason he went over to James's house the following evening, to warn James.
Episode 30: The Bloody Shirt
In this episode three new elements of the case are discussed; an upstairs neighbor's testimony, witness statements about Ivan asking James for money before the murders, and a bloody shirt.
Episode 31: Mark or Marty
Ivan was incarcerated in Collin County Jail after his arrest, awaiting his trial. In this episode, another inmate comes forward with a story that puts a whole new spin on the Jail House Tapes.
Episode 32: Loose Ends
In this episode, new information comes to light about Ivan considering fleeing to Mexico after the murders and the mysterious call from inside the apartment while Ivan was in Arkansas. Also, Gambino is interviewed for a second time.
Episode 33: Dirty Pool
There was a third person in Ivan and Amy's apartment the night of November 3rd 2000. She left just minutes before when Amy says Ivan committed the murders. In this episode, you'll hear her account of the time leading up to the murders and her experience at Ivan's trial.
Episode 34: The Night
This episode is the deep dive into the main hours in question and additional witnesses are interviewed.
Episode 35: The Forensics
This episode will provide a comprehensive look at the forensic psychology, pathology, finger prints, ballistics, blood spatter, DNA and crime scene analysis
Cantu Print Comparison on The Double Loop Podcast
Episode 36: Ivan's Final Interview
Ivan discusses the other main players, the evidence against him, and Amy Boettcher.
Episode 37: The Twenty Year Timeline - Part 1
This episode begins the chronicle of the case over the past 20 plus years.
Episode 38: The Twenty Year Timeline - Part 2
The episode chronicles 2002 to 2008; Ivan's Direct Appeal, State and Federal Writ of Habeas Corpus. Additionally, Goeller's affidavit on Ivan's confession and the bloody shirt are discussed.
Episode 39: The Twenty Year Timeline - Part 3
Finishing up the 20 Year Timeline, this episode chronicles 2008 to current day; which includes a 2010 Oral Argument Hearing, 2012 interview with Amy Boettcher, and the origin of the bloody shirt saga.
Episode 40: The Closing Arguments
In this episode the investigation is concluded, the closing arguments are given and we wait on the outcome.
Episode 41: The Clemency Petition
Ivan's Clemency Petition was filed on April 4th, and in it was a bombshell... about Jeff Boettcher.
Episode 42: The Jeff Boettcher Interview
Collin County takes a trip up to Minnesota. In this episode we hear the 2022 interview between the Collin County Assistant DA, a DA investigator and Jeff Boettcher.
Episode 43: The First Subsequent Application for Writ of Habeas Corpus
In this episode we review the claims in Ivan's Application for Writ of Habeas Corpus... and the possible outcomes.