MetaRadioAug 26, 2022
MetaView #32 -DAOs & Co-ops: 100 Years of Participatory Governance w/ Hugi
Hugi is an Icelandic entrepreneur & technologist involved in participatory political movements & decentralized organizations for over 15 years. He was a founding member of the Swedish Pirate Party, he helped build the participatory festival Borderland & currently works on open source platforms like Open Collective & Cobudget, empowering collaborative communities.
Hugi shares his early experience co-founding the Swedish Pirate Party, one of the first political movements organised as an online swarm. After that, he got involved with the Borderland festival. He saw it as an experimental sandbox for new coordination methods in decentralized decision-making.
Besides putting on the most decentralized festival for thousands of people, people of Borderland also built tools for doing so, one of which became Cobudget - an online tool for decentralized budgeting.
He hopes for more cross-pollination between DAOs & civil society organizations. DAOs can learn governance models from 100-years of experience. On the other hand, DAOs need to start interacting with & prove real-world impact before being taken seriously by the 99%. He suggests people build web3 solutions for civil society needs, as a bridge between the spaces.
“I realized that in a lot of these communities that are running open source software or DAOs, there's not a single person that has any experience from regular civil society organizations, because if they did, they would already have the blueprints in their heads of how this can look, because the blueprints are already there." - Hugi
Origins of the Swedish Pirate Party & swarm organizing
Borderland festival as a decentralized sandbox
Self-organization and emergent leadership
Advice process for decentralized decision-making
Participatory budgeting with Cobudget
Learning from historic worker cooperatives
Real-world impact and adoption challenges
Bridging web3 and mainstream communities
Technocratic elitism in web3 spaces
Hybridizing DAOs and traditional nonprofits
MetaView #31 - Multipolar Traps, Metacrisis & Web3 w/ Stephen Reid
This time we got Stephen Reid - a teacher, technologist and coach who is involved in a variety of projects related to web3, metacrisis, metamodernism, psychedelics & personal development. He has taught numerous courses including Tools for the Regenerative Renaissance, DAOs, Web3, and AI. Currently he is studying for a certificate in machine learning and artificial intelligence from UC Berkeley.
Steven starts by describing his background and interests. He first became interested in metamodernism and the metacrisis around 2016-2017 by listening to thinkers like Daniel Schmachtenberger and Jordan Hall. He sees himself as a bridge builder between different communities like web3 and psychedelics that have more in common philosophically than people realize.
Peth & Stephen discuss the concepts of metamodernism and the metacrisis. The metacrisis examines the common drivers behind global crises like climate change, inequality, and more. It's about systems thinking and understanding how everything is interconnected. Metamodernism focuses more on inner development of individuals with the idea that if more people are self-actualized, it will be easier to address systemic issues.
Stephen shares his insights and experiences, exploring the interconnectedness of global challenges and how understanding underlying generator functions can pave the way to solving multiple crises simultaneously.
Some key ideas covered:
- The multipolar trap - how even good people can be driven to bad things when coordination systems fail. For example, countries not wanting to be the first to decarbonize their economy out of fear they'll fall behind competitively.
- The importance of both inner development and compassion as well as designing better external coordination mechanisms. You need both personal growth and systemic solutions.- Concepts from integral theory & the book Reinventing Organizations - which distribute ownership and decision-making rather than having rigid hierarchies.
- Practices like authentic relating that help groups attune to collective intelligence and make decisions together.
They discuss the challenges of governance in DAOs. Having tokens be fully transferrable often leads to plutocracy, but more experiments are happening with reputation-based voting and other models. The goal is distributing power but avoiding the issues of both "one person one vote" and pure token-based control.
He emphasizes the need for people in the web3 space to focus on how their work really contributes to human thriving, especially with the urgency of interconnected crises. Overall it was a wide-ranging conversation about systemic issues and personal growth.
Metacrisis thinking is joined-up thinking, holistic, and systems thinking. It's about understanding the interventions in any domain and how they can affect other domains. We should create a culture where everyone is aware of the possibility of downstream consequences and takes responsibility for understanding and mitigating them - Steven Reed
- Systems thinking and the meta-crisis
- Coordination problems like multipolar traps
- Inner development, compassion, and practices
- Distributed ownership models for organizations
- Projects related to the meta-crisis
Frontiers Of Coordination #16 - Coordinaping Towards A Better Future w/Zakku
In this episode, we welcome Zakku of Coordinape, a platform for decentralized compensation where people acknowledge & reward each other's contributions.
An activist & a coordinator - Zach has a deep background in building, coordinating & advising networks for impact. His path took him to co-founding Converge before his interest in peer-to-peer collaboration led him to explore the potential of crypto, become an early contributor at Yearn & eventually start Coordinape.
Inspired by decentralized compensation on a round table at Converge - Coordinape allows people to write their contributions for evaluation by peers. Each member receives 100 GIVE tokens to allocate to other members based on their contributions, then the funds get divided based on % of total GIVEs each member received.
There’s a lot more to it & Zakku emphasizes the importance of communication & reflection throughout the whole process - but that’s it in a nutshell.
Zach & peth dived into the challenges & opportunities of decentralized collaboration, discussing trade-offs of decentralization & efficiency, highlighting the need for context & cohesive team dynamics before going into the potential of AI to assist us.
They brushed on the difficulties of founding software projects as non-technical people as well as other personal & interpersonal challenges inherent in online collaboration;
In conclusion, Zakku & peth share similar beliefs in the potential of Web3 to create new systems, build better organizations & address societal issues.
“Web3 offers the potential to create new systems rather than fighting against the old ones. We have the tools to do things better than default systems."
Some of the topics:
- The launch of CoSoul NFTs in Coorinape
- Experience in activism, coordination & Converge
- Using Coordinape for decentralized compensation
- Challenges & advantages of decentralized collaboration
- Importance of context & communication
- Potential of AI in assisting DAOs
- Future vision of Coordinape
- Potential of Web3 & projects that make Zakku bullish
"We're trying to use technology to solve what is fundamentally a social problem...difficulties in working this way require self-awareness, emotional intelligence & open communication."
MetaView #30 - The Power of Intent w/ Malcolm Ocean
Malcolm & Intentions
In this episode of the MetaView Podcast, we welcome Malcolm Ocean; a goal-setter, developer & a solopreneur who’s been building Intend for the better half of a decade.
Reflecting on his own experience of realizing the power of setting intentions & pursuing values-aligned projects, Malcolm shares his journey of exploring intentionality & his motivation behind starting Intend and how it helps people gain clarity & realize their goals.
His overall idea is that motivation is not something that needs to be forced but simply recognized & channeled, highlighting the importance of understanding what blocks or inhibits motivation.
He primarily built Intend for himself & his friends whom he was helping with goal-setting, but the thing quickly took off to become his primary source of income.
Malcom also explores the differences between Intend, habit-tracking, and to-do apps, noting how Intend focuses on long term goals & fresh daily intentions rather than backlogged tasks or recurring habits. Qualitative reflections instead of metrics.
Like most guests of MetaView, Malcolm emphasizes the importance of playing win-win games & creating collaborative cultures to maximize positive outcomes for everyone involved.
Win-win Games & Self-energizing Teams
Malcolm’s interest stretch far beyond Intend and into team dynamics, consciousness & culture. By showing people how to play better games, he believes that a shift towards collaborative cultures can lead to a more fulfilling and harmonious society.
They go on to explore the idea of self-energizing teams, where individuals find collaborations that align with their own goals & where the motivation becomes effortless.
Highlighting the importance of accountability & the role of financial stakes, the episode concludes with a reflection on the role of clearly set goals & the misconception that monetary incentives are the primary driver of motivation.
"The moment you think you might want to get yourself to do something, you already have motivation to do it. Instead, focus on how to allow yourself to do it."
Some of the topics
Power of intentions
Choosing goals & the importance of deciding what not to do
Recognizing and channeling motivation
Fractal reviews and the satisfaction of tracking progress
Leveraging strengths & collaborations
Self-energizing meta teams & effortless motivation
The role of stakes in goal commitment
The role of money in motivation
The Goal-Crafting Intensive - workshop, starting soon
MetaView #29 - Coordination Through Alignment w/ Rob Morris
In this MetaView episode, peth talked to Rob Morris; a metamodernist, a game b player & a serial entrepreneur since the dotcom era - currently running FunDAOmental & Prismatik as well as advising & investing in several other projects along the way. His passion for technology and people, cooperative coordination and the metacrisis led to a deep conversation on these topics & the role that technology plays for humanity to move towards more positive outcomes.
“At a very high level I think that the way that humans get things done reflects what's advantageous in the environment that we find ourselves in and also in a broad sense reflects a gradual evolution of the perspectives that we collectively hold and how we approach things”, he says.
Some of the topics:
Hierarchical coordination vs alignment based coordination
Coordination by control vs Coordination by alignment
SaaS software vs protocol style organizations
Network effect vs protectionism and monopoly, economy of scale
The Mathew effect
Metacrisis & ways to address it
Meeting people’s needs to enable collective action
MetaView #28 - Being a Friendly Ambitious Nerd & The Bigger Picture w/ Visakan Veerasamy
Visa Veerasamy is a prolific writer and creator. With a large list of followers on twitter, he is known for crafting a web of curious exploratory threads as well for being the author of the books Friendly Ambitious Nerd & Introspect. On a mission to spark curiosity, creativity, and prolificacy in the digital age, he is knitting a global network and encouraging other people to chase their curiosity & make friends.
Having grown up in libraries, he thinks of the internet as a grand one, a place with infinite possibilities where you can find people all over the world with the same interests and values. To find them he advises to create, share and dare to be bad at what you do when you’re starting, which will lead to form a cluster of great people thriving together.
It sounds simple because it is - but he has a whole vision around how individuals simply following their interests & making friends will lead to great positive outcomes for the society as a whole, not just individuals doing so.
Some of the topics:
Becoming a friendly ambitious nerd
Advice to younger people
Identity vs Anonimity
How to be a friendly ambitious nerd
Why become a friendly ambitious nerd
Frontiers Of Coordination #14 - Collaboration, Standardization & Biomimicry w/ Simona Pop
Simona Pop has been involved with the Ethereum community and DAOs since the early days and recalls the levels of enthusiasm and energy that made her get involved into many different projects in the ecosystem among which are co-founding Bounties Network and organizing Schelling Point, a unconference around coordination, regenerative economics and DeSci. She’s currently the Metagovernance Steward at ENS DAO - among other things.
Some of the topics:
Interoperability vs personal interest
Biggest lessons over the years
Creating initiation experiences
Schelling Point & lessons learned
DAOs’ biggest problems
Standardization & framework for DAOs
Her project, Bounties Network, was about building a bounties platform as a protocol - interoperable. It was also possibly the first Web3 project incentivizing regeneration in the real world by putting bounties on things like beach cleanups. One of the constraints she encountered was the mentality of ownership over collective interests, which complicates the move towards interoperability. A mindset that must go through a process of unlearning to prioritize collaboration, one of her key takeaways from her years in the space.
If you’ve been following Simona on twitter, you might have noticed she likes looking at collaboration & decentralization through the lens of biomimicry, which aims to emulate nature’s processes, forms and ecosystems from the awareness that we as humans are part of a greater network. In this sense she proposes standardization in DAO frameworks & communications, which would be a baseline and a soil ready for planting that also allows navigation easily and that would organize the circuit of information, resource and decision making.
Share What You’re Making #11 - Derrek Coleman On Buidling Community
In this episode of Share What You’re Making Chair & Bacon have a chat with Derrick Coleman, who is the community steward at Ethereum Denver as well as a regular contributor on Raid Guild, where his journey in Web3 began.
From there he would make the bridge to his current role, taking care of the health of the community. An appropriate role for him considering it has been precisely the sense of community what has kept him in Web3. “The reason I'm in the space is because there are these communities of people that care for each other and look out for each other because of some shared values or goals. I'm not here for the libertarian not-your-keys-not-your-coin-get-off-my-property vibes. I'm here for the let's make an internet co-op so we can work together and have less extractive value systems sucking out whatever value we create for the sake of the shareholders”.
With that in mind and a strong purpose on education, he’s been aligned with ETH Denver Ethos to buidl, to create the world we live in and shaping its tools and foundations; this is what excites him about bringing together the people and the technology in a cooperative of people that are incentivized to see each other succeed.
“I care first and foremost about the buidling. The only thing you can do with Bitcoin is hold it, so maxis turned that into a meme; you can Hodl aka not sell, but over on Ethereum, which has a smart contract layer, it gets more interesting because you can build code on top of the machine, so instead of Hodl we Buidl interesting projects using that technology, so our entire ecosystem of buidlers buidling their projects is the key thing and the part I'm excited about”.
Some of the topics:
How he was onboarded to Web3
How he got into Raid guild and Sporkdao and ETH Denver
His role on ETH Denver team
His take on onboarding
Code along with Derreck videos
Lens merch stolen?
ETH Denver reach
Some lessons learned and ETH Denver 2024
Path to ETH Denver 2024 with Infinity Keys
Projects that started at ETH Denver
Frontiers of Coordination #13 - Memetic Filters and Collective Imagineering in Web3 w/ Travis Wyche
On this episode of Frontiers of Coordination Peth welcomes artist, philosopher and researcher Travis Wyche. After a couple of years in the Web3 space he considers himself a more culturally focused contributor rather than a technical person even when he spends part of his time doing a variety of research on UXs and developing UI design. The fact is that the interweaving of his skills and interests led to Pluriverse, a transmedia lorecrafting experiment in collective imagineering.
Screaming at punk shows was his first approach to the Moloch meme. Later in life when he entered Web3 he would connect it to Allen Ginsberg’s poem Howl, an event that in a way funneled him down a rabbit hole of connecting these cultural influences with the technical game theory of coordination. That is what attracted him to the space in the first place: “I'm not really a Degen; I didn't get drawn into crypto through DeFi or anything like that, through the tokens really at all, but more of the high level philosophy, politics, the various kinds of connections to things in my own background as an artist, as a musician, as a community organizer, as an anarchist, as an aging punk. All those kinds of cultural affinities are what brought me in”.
It's from that perspective that he appreciates the meaning of the Moloch meme, known as the god of coordination failure while also associated with child sacrifice among other things. For him,it’s an image that serves as a “memetic filter” for people to understand the potency that image creates for a “community first” kind of orientation.
Some of the topics:
His origins in the space
The rise and fall of the Moloch meme
Moloch memetic filter
Individual mindshift for successful coordination
WTF is Pluriverse
Pluriverse current projects
Genres, themes and characters in Pluriverse
Regen in the space
Regen beyond crypto
Frontiers Of Coordination #12 - Mutual Aid & Community Currencies w/ Will Ruddick
Will Ruddick is an econo-optimist; in his words. A physicist that got into economics. Experiences such as being in the Peace Corps helped shape his vision around using technology for mutual credit on community groups coming together to produce mutual aid for each other. So he founded Grassroots Economics, a non-profit foundation developing economic empowerment to help communities realize and share their abundance. In this episode he shares with Peth his motivations and experiences with the project.
The proposal is to have communities form a type of agreement on their means of exchange, goods and services that are redeemable from vouchers that can be used in or out of the community. Through blockchain, these vouchers have an expiration built in and the contract holds the legal instruments for it. This type of exchange is actually similar with traditional systems, which in Kenya have not only a rich history but 42 different names to refer to.
For Ruddick this is a basic use case of blockchain that allows creating endogenous instruments in an association. However, in his opinion, for it to succeed there needs to be liability. “When I read the Bitcoin whitepaper and they talk about community currencies this is what I think they're talking about and historically if you look at a lot of the community currency research and all these examples over the years, the ones that were very successful had clear liability; it was clear who was backing this vouchers with what services”.
Some of the topics:
How he started Grassroots Economics
How does Grassroots Economics work
Adoption of the tech in these communities
Workshops for collective vision
Blockchain for accountability
Limited and trackable liability
Grassroots Economics spread and outreach
Toughest part on his journey
Hopes for the future
MetaView #27 - Enlightening Worldviews w/ Brandon Norgaard
Brandon Norgaard is a researcher, writer and founder of the Enlightened Worldview, a project described in short as a quest to promote peace through societal understanding and inner awareness. In this episode he shares with Peth about the perks of building an organization that will help people improve self-awareness and mindfulness.
Norgaard explains the project seeks to “promote a new enlightenment”, implementing the premises given in Hanzi Freinacht books The Listening Society and Nordic Ideology and based on Game B as well as “Bildung”, a concept that refers to how individuals and groups of people learn and thrive through education and personal development to cultivate skills, habits and values that contribute to society.
This would be made possible through software development to encourage people to come together, have leadership structures and coordinate local face-to-face events and networks structured to strengthen communities, improve their quality of life and add value. “There's a way to do it that is entertaining to people while they are also getting sense making and awareness capabilities and meeting spirituality by being a part of these communities and these circles”, he says.
“What gives me hope is looking at local Game Change, local developments of community circles, a deeper integration across aspects of public life and social experiments in that regard and using technology to benefit people's lives”. Timestamp for video: 32:42 - 33:55
Some of the topics:
What is Enlightened Worldview
Metamodern Hackers Collective
Adult lifelong learning
Enlightenment Worldview platform
WTF is Game B
WTF is Metamodernism
Relationship between Game B & Metamodernism
Downtown San Francisco homelessness issue
Local game change and development of communities and circles
His advice to MetaGame
Hanzi Feinacht books:
MetaView #26: Profit Maximalism & Game B w/ Jim Rutt
Jim Rutt remembers his days as a businessman, CEO of Network Solutions and CTO of Thomson-Reuters. When he retired in 2001 he went back to his original love: science. He then started working with the Santa Fe Institute as a researcher -where he met Jordan Hall- and eventually became the chairman. It was 2012 when he and some friends started the social movement and philosophical set of ideas known today as Game B.
In this episode Rutt and Peth dive deep into the movement that aims to create the social operating system for the future, from the early attempts as the Emancipation Party to the current state and possible scenarios.
Rutt recognizes the damage caused by Game A's exponential growth approach of the world while he also acknowledges the process of “bottom-up” culturalization that has to take place first for Game B to succeed. “The Game B turn is to do two things. One is to develop a way of living in the world that fully honors our natural world and actually helps it regenerate from some of the harm that's been done in the late stages of Game A, and does it in a way that is organized around increasing human well-being and puts human well-being central”.
Some of the topics
Game A Background
WTF is Game B?
Mental Health crisis
Building growth inwards vs macro growth
Game B Communities
Face-to-face aspect of Game B
Consumption ratings in the western world
Failure modes of game B
Roles in the Game B community
Bad attractors or scenarios
Share What You're Makin' w/ Chair & Bacon #10: Remember ETHDenver
Chair & Bacon are back with a new episode! This time they take us into ETHDenver, with Chair telling us about his experience at the largest blockchain festival in the world.
The event, where he got to meet a lot of octos from MetaGame was a, was a good way to get both hyped about MetaFest2, the only MetaCartel event happening this year, from august 11th to 25th at Fort Punta Christo in Croatia.
Wait… WTF is MetaFest? A festival including everything you’d expect of a festival + everything you’d expect of a conference + an optional week-long trip. “I have no doubt that it would be a fun time, a very good bonding experience for a lot of friends that don’t get to see each other in person or very rarely”, Chair said. With the vast list of speakers and the epic adventures down the coast of Croatia, we think so too ;)
From texturePunx, Keyp onboarding platform, Sillicon Valley Bank going bankrupt, to the “spookiness” of Aavegotchi closing the $GHST bonding curve the exact day of DAI’s depeg, in this episode Chair and Bacon also talked about news and projects that have caught their attention these days as well as future guests for the show.
Some of the topics:
Chair’s twitter ban
Keyp Onboarding platform
SVB bankrupt news
Aavegotchi’s $GHST bonding curve tuned off
MetaView #25 - DAOs & The Global Economic Order w/ Patrick Rawson
Patrick Rawson discovered Ethereum in January of 2017 and it seemed to him like a game changer. By 2019 he quit his job in advertising and became a full-time DAOist and regen. He is a co-founder of Curve Labs & Kolektivo. In this episode he talks about his view on the evolution of crypto space and what he has learned so far.
From his perspective, which weighs the institutional framework, the crypto technology has to interface with the real world to build effective finance. “What we need is a new constellation of institutional actors operating from the bottom-up, with more of a community gaze than this top-down flow of money”, he says.
Ecotechnics was the term he once used to define what is now widely known as regenerative finance, a term with which he was trying to answer a question: “Money is a technology that is used to solve this trifecta problem of store value and medium of exchange and so forth; so understanding that, how can we create a bottom-up form of money which has a different set of outcomes? I use this term ecotechnics because I think those outcomes need to be particularly mindful of the closed ecological system that is the Earth".
He brings to the table the use of what he calls process assets, as a form of tokenization that could have enormous real-world benefits by taking different processes and turning them into abstractions of these to guarantee they happen. This is also without the need to subscribe to any particular agenda and thus decentralizing authority from institutions. “I find this all very very exciting from an institutional perspective as it's taking a historically monopolizable form of authority and giving it to regular people to do what they will with it”.
As for the future, his hope is that the distinction between Web3/Crypto and the real world dissolves. “There's sort of this underlying assumption that every time we say crypto we're referring to some virtual domain, some metaverse on the horizon that doesn't affect the real world and I would like to see that that distinction close over time. Where when we refer to crypto or refer to Web3, we are simultaneously referring to more than a predominantly virtual domain, that we are referring to entire communities”.
Some of the topics
- His biggest lessons in the space
- His posts series called ‘DAOs and the Global Economic Order’
- Ecotechnics & Refi
- Process assets & proof of impact
- Liquidity in impact formation
- Universalist politics
- The future of Web3/Crypto
DAOs and the Global Economic Order
MetaView #24: WTF Is Metamodernism? w/ Hanzi Freinacht
After writing the latest MetaGame Newsletter Metagame & Metadornism, pt.1, peth sat down to talk with Hanzi Freinacht, political philosopher, historian and sociologist, author of ‘The Listening Society’ and ‘Nordic Ideology’ to dive deep into foundations, views and mindset of Metamodernism.
“Metamodernism comes from the heart of postmodern thinking, it thrives on that critique, on seeing the cracks in the modern project, but it wants to find a direction of development which is going deeper into who we are as human beings and develop our relationships and our worldviews”, says Freinacht.
In his words, the metamodern project is to again believe in growth and development, going beyond critique and beyond just increasing GDP, producing more science papers, inventing new gadgets and medicines. Rather, Freinacht explains, “it's about increasing the sense of meaning and the quality of relationships and the scaffolds for our own personal and psychological development”.
Sustainability, alienation, inequality and lack of meaning are some of the fundamental problems of modernism that the metamodern mindset addresses as a result of a “proto-synthesis” for the kinds of life we would want. “Metamodernism tries to fulfill all of the promises of postmodern critique, all of those values, all of those injustices, but it does so by building a program for the future for what you can do”, he explains.
This Metamodern mindset is self transforming and a result of the interaction of four dimensions: cognitive complexity, symbolic code, subjective states and depth. These layers move between two extremes: “The metamodernist mindset re-enchants the world but does so at the same time explaining everything that can be explained with the best possible explanatory models; and that sense of creating meaning in a secular or rational world is in a sense the core of the metamodernist quest”.
Some of the topics covered:
- Fundamental problems of modernism
- Metamodern mindset
- The four dimensions of human development
- Demographic of the metamodernist community
- Nordic ideology and different types of politics
- Green Social Liberalism
- MetaGame & Metamodernism
- Metamodern cryptosphere
Jordan Peterson’s 12 rules for life
Hanzi Freinacht’s 12 Commandments: For Extraordinary People To Master Ordinary LifeRobert Kegan's Stages of Adult Development: Self-Transforming or Interindividual Knowers
Hanzi Feinacht books: 12 Commandments: For Extraordinary People To Master Ordinary Life
Frontiers Of Coordination #11 - 3 Years Of DAOing w/ Dekan Brown From DAOhaus & RaidGuild
In this episode Peth has a talk with one of his favorite people in the space to chat about the challenges and the future of DAOs and governance.
Dekan Brown is a developer and a Daoist. He’s one of the founders of DAOHaus, Raid Guild and Metacartel. His work has been focused in governance and community type experiments. This time he shares the lessons and perspectives he’s gained over the last three years working in the crypto space.
"We are basically trying to reinvent the system and get people to think about things differently," he states. In his opinion there’s the idea of digital organizations but the idea of decentralization, resiliency, robustness and anti-capture has been forgotten.
Reflecting on past experiences he shares that avoiding what he calls “operational overhead”, minimizing governance and having a high-level purpose are some of the areas for improvement in DAOs.
“What we should be going for is millions of different kinds of sovereign nations where every person is a citizen of maybe hundreds of thousands of other nations and, as an individual, you have the sovereignty to move wherever you want, to use your money however you want and to form in this groups and understand where the publics goods for this groups are and how are you funding them”.
Some of the topics:
· DAO narrative pushed in the wrong direction
· DAO Citizenship
· Digital corporations vs DAOs
· Token holders vs community
· Treasury less DAOs
· DAO governance
· Burocratic ingroups and “operational overhead”
· Setting a purpose and guiding principles
· Minimizing governance
· Seasonal leadership changes
· Periods of reflection and goal setting
· Voting periods and grace periods
· Retroactive reviews
· MolochDAO framework
· DAO purism vs pragmatism
· The future of DAOs
Frontiers Of Coordination #10 - The Real Decentralization and Regeneration w/ Grace Rachmany
Just days before starting her 6 week workshop, DAO consultant and co-founder of PricelessDAO Grace Rachmany, talked to Peth about her journey on team management and her perspectives on the ReFi space, decentralized organizations, independence, autonomy & much more..
As someone who has specialized in team management, leadership & governance, she raises a question: How to bring out the best in people and communities?
The structure of a DAO, adequate voting systems and the ability to track your reputation as well as hardware production are some of the proposals she highlights in order to create a self-sufficient system that does not operate by the same rules as the default.
“If it’s just a general movement then you’re missing something. If DAOs can offer us some structure where we could recognize one another, be united under some sort of federated protocol that allows us to communicate, then the question would be ``what do you want to communicate?”
For more nuggets of wisdom, listen to the full episode.
If you’re interested in learning more about what money really is, the rules of the game, how the existing economic system has become so unsustainable, commons practices, alternative economic models for a sustainable future and how cryptocurrencies & DAOs can be utilized for such ends, register for the workshop.
Some of the topics:
- Decentralized decision making
- Voting vs governance
- Decentralized organizations in the past vs DAOs
- Autonomous movements vs autonomous organizations
- Tracking reputation and expertise
- Centralization vs decentralization
- Delegated voting
- User-centric web and Self-sovereign identity
- Priceless DAO regenerative vision
- Priceless’ Women movement
- Measuring wellbeing
Frontiers Of Coordination #9 - Govrn, Governance & Autonomy w/ Aaron Soskin & Stefen Delev
From sunny Croatia to sunny Miami, Peth talks to Aaron Soskin and Stefen Delev from Govern friends with vibes of epic proportions, working on, an open platform that helps DAO contributors to track and record their own work, while enabling communities to value & reward such contributions.
The idea, as they explain, is to make sure that DAO contributors are as autonomous as possible and that the work that they do is owned by them with reputation verified & an option to fork their & other contributions into their own project, if the ideas diverge or contributions grow too much.
“We found that for DAOs to stay autonomous and as decentralized as possible, there needed to be a better way to coordinate work” – explains Soskin. As a response, they developed a protocol not only for tracking contributions but for assigning value.
Besides tracking & rewarding contributions, the whole point is for the contributors to be as autonomous as possible. There will even be measures put in place so organizations can cyclically go from diverging to converging & diverging to converging on a cyclical basis, allowing people to experiment on their own, together evaluate experiments & merge ideas back into strategic goals of the organization - or pursue separate paths if needed.
“This idea –says Delev– of having ownership of your contributions and having a contribution layer that interacts with reputation tools, identity tools or payment tools, etcetera; and combining all this within DAOs opens the doors of governance as based on contribution rather than based on the tokens you buy or the airdrop you got”.
Some of the topics:
- Why tracking contributions
- On-chain contributions
- Govrn protocol
- Layers of verification: records, attestations and assignments
- Experiences with Sourcecred
- Fungible contributions for autonomy and trust
- Autonomy vs alignment in DAOs
- Bootstrapping vs fundraising
- Challenges at Govrn
- Coordination challenges for DAOs
- Centralized vs decentralized governance
- Contribution-based governance
Frontiers Of Coordination #8 - Pioneers & Settlers; Going Fast & Far w/ Ven Gist
Ven is a designer and a general coordinator in several DAOs such as MetaCartel, DAOhaus and Raid Guild, among others. In this episode he shares his views and perspective on pioneering in DAOs and how to expand the frontiers of coordination.
“One thing the community have to do is sustain itself but the other thing is to explore the frontiers”, he shares. “currently there are DAOs that are very tight circles and when people want to pioneer, they have to go outside the circle to do it, which is necessary but also creates difficulty in coordinating”. For him, instead of DAOs being a rigid structure, there need to be protocols and mechanisms within the communities for pioneers to be empowered.
He believes that the future is oriented towards cross-DAO collaboration; however they need to figure out how to coordinate better before they can start coordinating across them.
“We need to be able to go fast and go far together and if DAOs can do that, we can actually start doing really effective governance”.
Some of the topics:
- What is a frontier of coordination in DAOs
- Pioneering in DAOs
- His key take-aways from his work within DAOs
- How to incentivize pioneering and coordination
- Growth vs sustainability
- His view on the future of DAOs: collaborative initiatives
- The use cases for protocols and platforms for DAOs and communities
Frontiers Of Coordination #7 - Stefen Delev On The Importance Of DAOs For Crypto Adoption
Back home in The Bahamas after doing several conferences at Austin, New York and Barcelona, Stefen Delev took time to have a casual conversation with Peth.
Stefen came up as being the president of the Caribbean Blockchain Alliance, a NGO that promotes the adoption of blockchain technology in the region mostly through education - eg. with a big event coming up. Other than that, working on projects like PrimeDAO, The DAOist & most recently Govrn, also known throughout the DAOsphere as a man of great vibes.
Some of the topics:
- Challenges for adoption
- His journey into DAOs
- Radical participation in DAOs
- Short term vs long term vision
- Cross-DAO collaboration
- GovrnDAO and contribution management
- The future of DAOs and governance
“I definitely see DAOs being the main point of access for the Caribbean because in a lot of places, pretty much the most part, exchanges are pretty difficult to get access to.” - DAOs making it possible to earn instead of buying.
He currently serves as Growth Leader in Govrn and believes in building cross-DAO collaboration from contributor work.
Share What You’re Making with Chair and Bacon #9: 0xDawg On Ocean Conservation, Ecosystem Restoration & Regenerative Action
Dawg is a freelance designer & token engineer that has been deep in the Web3 ecosystem since 2017. He is a founding member of Moonjelly DAO and Natix Network, both projects with the goal, among others, to “decentralize the entire aspect of ocean conservation and ocean ecosystem restoration”. In this episode he shares with Chair and Bacon more about the project's mission, regenerative action and how and why to verify impact through NFTs.
“The goal is to become a DAO where individuals can scientifically validate project proposals for conservation”, he says. “We’re trying to gather a living group of people that are trying to upgrade themselves as human beings and then become able to serve the ocean”.
Some of the topics:
- Mission of Moonjelly DAO
- Verified Impact
- Web3 oracle data feeds
- Natix Network
- Usecases for monitoring and impact verification
- Regenerative action meaning
- DeepWork Studios
- NFTs to gather information
Share what you’re making with Chair and Bacon #8: Texture On Success, Embracing Opportunities, The Genesis Of Ethereum & How Texture Punx Was Born
Anthony D’Onofrio, better known as Texture, started coding at a young age by learning BASIC on his grandma’s computer. From there, he became a full-stack developer and got involved in different projects that ultimately failed, but always with a mindset of embracing opportunities while developing himself, which led him to be one of the co-founders of Ethereum.
“As long as you can handle what most people might consider failure for an indetermined amount of time and not lose that drive, success is just a matter of time”, he says.
Sounds like a usual story to success but you’ll learn Texture is far from an ordinary person.
In this episode, he chats with Chair and Bacon about his personal journey, the ups & downs, his role on the genesis and early days of Ethereum, his NFT project Texture Punx which started as a joke, and his perspectives on Web3.
Some of the topics are:
- His origins as a developer
- The concept of success
- Contributing in Web3 vs extracting value
- Big corporations’ adoption of the technology
- The genesis and early days of Ethereum
- The importance of a good website
- The problem of scams and misinformation
- Future of Web3
- Texture Punx NFT project
Now he wants to start his own podcast, not exactly about Web 3 but instead as a way to make a bridge to other things that interest him in all areas of culture and keep adding to the future of the space. “I really want to see a world in which people can offer value, other people can be inspired by that system of value whether it be very small or something local (…) I would like to see people be able to take ownership of their world a bit more”.
Share What You're Makin' w/ Chair & Bacon #7: Penguin on NFTs, MUD gaming and Battle for Evermore
Chair and Bacon have their second episode with a first recurring guest: Penguin, a platinum member of MetaGame and CTO of Mud Games, among other titles.
Penguin started playing at the age of 12 and has a long journey in the gaming industry. In this episode he shares about Battle for Evermore, his new NFT gaming project, and his perspectives on the evolving industry of gaming.
“I started playing when I was 12 and really shaped who I became and gave me an outlet in all this fantasy stuff and becoming active in these virtual worlds and creating virtual worlds and interacting with people in a metaverse level that people are getting into now”. With Battle for Evermore he wanted to make text based games fun for everyone.
He recognizes that the NFT space is “suffering from the hype and oversaturation of projects” so that the projects that will remain successful are the ones with a team that's there to support and that keeps pushing no matter what. In the case of Mud Games, he says they strive to make all the characters fun to play and make it competitive. “The main thing is that the game is fun to play, the token price is secondary”.
He will be at MetaGame’s MetaFest with a presentation and a couple of workshops.
Some of the topics:
- Mud Games
- Status of the NFT and NFT game industry
- Evolution of gaming
- Game Modes
- Balancing games
- How to join
- Backstory of Battle for Evermore
- Future of the game
MetaView #23 : The Blockchain Socialist on Anarcho-Syndicalism & DAOs
It's been around two and a half years since The Blockchain Socialist started his website to explain Blockchain 101 from a socialist point of view, and although the name was just tentative, in time he got stuck with it and the project expanded to different analysis and, eventually, to a podcast.
He is currently working on a documentary called Crypto Futures to “hopefully distinguish what the different futures of crypto are and make a call to action for viewers to make a choice on which one they want to support”. Going on to explain how the crypto “community” is far from homogenous - how the perspective & philosophy of an average Bitcoin Miami & Crypto Commons Gathering conference-goer are vastly different.
In this episode he and Peth exchange some views and perspectives on anarcho capitalism, anarcho syndicalism, socialism, DAOs and the blockchain ecosystem.
Some of the topics are:
- Crypto Futures Documentary
- Crypto Commons Gathering
- Libertarian & hyper-capitalist crypto mindset
- Leftist critiques of crypto
- Anarcho Syndicalism and its relation to DAOs
- History of unions and decentralization
- Differences between anarcho communism and other strands of socialism
- Token governance???
- Universal basic income vs universal basic services
He addresses the importance of showing different people’s visions about crypto in the future to break the tendency of trying to define the entirety of it in a particular way. “It's a good thing that we don't try to impose those mental models onto this new thing because that would limit us in thinking about how we use crypto and blockchain for different goals than the libertarian ones”.
That is what in his opinion would allow people who are building to have an alternative mental model to what they’re developing and help them think thoroughly about their political and economic consequences and whether or not there are ways to build them that are more “progressive minded”.
Therefore his goal is to expose different alternatives socialist ideas and models that have an interesting history and that, in his opinion, are relevant for DAOs, such as anarcho syndicalism.
Share What You're Makin' w/ Chair & Bacon #6: CupOJoseph of HeroDAO on Decentralizing Comics & Web3 Onboarding
Back from a long hiatus since their last podcast, Chair and Bacon come back to catch up. In this episode, they welcome CupOJoseph from HeroDAO who shared about how they’re creating the first community owned superhero franchise, a very competitive field, which he views as a long term media franchise.
He also shared how he’s building for an easier onboarding experience to Web3 through TreasureChess. He compares this onboarding experience with a bicycle with training wheels that teaches users all the concepts to later allow them to download their wallets and make a progressive onboarding knowing a little bit more about how it works. “This is a learning experience for people. We’ve designed every aspect of this to be fun and teachable, not for speculation. We’re optimizing for user experience”.
Some of the topics:
- What is Hero DAO
- How Moon Girl series started
- The importance of having specific goals in DAOs
- NFTs as a funding mechanism
- Web3 onboarding obstacles
- TreassureChess as an onboarding experience different from play-to-earn
- Building Crypto Lite onboarding stack
- Web2 logins to Web3 and gasless L2 transactions
MetaView #22: Metaverse & NFTs Meet Regen Villages with Mike of Future Thinkers & Portal DAO
Mike Gilliland is the co-founder of Future Thinkers and The Portal DAO. At present-day, he is building a smart village in Canada along with his partner & family. In this episode, Peth and Mike talk about his vision of regenerative living and how to make bridges between the virtual and the physical realm.
Mike explained how they plan to use the village space as experimental ground, not only for regenerative experiments but for living. Therefore, the smart village will also be an experiment in governance and living in a healthy and holistic way. “We want to create a culture of willingness to fail and try things out. The Portal DAO will be responsible for suggesting a lot of these different experiments and participants will benefit”.
Some of the topics:
- The beginnings of the Future Thinkers podcast
- Shadow work as foundational work
- How the smart village project started
- Virtual reality as a replica of the physical world
- The Portal DAO?
- Funding experiments & cultural projects
- AI to enhance abilities for creativity and personal development
According to Mike, it all starts with facing your own demons and the dark parts of the world, looking at environmental and economic collapse. Then aligning yourself & taking action - not out of desperation, but duty.
Frontiers Of Coordination #6 Path of a DAOist, Life Meta & MetaHub(s?) with Felipe Duarte of The DAOist
Although their next event, Global Governance Gathering during Devconnect in Amsterdam will be their biggest yet highly experimental event to accelerate DAO creativity - The DAOist plans on going way beyond organizing conferences.
In this episode, Felipe shares his story, The DAOist’s story and some philosophical thoughts about life and DAOs.
Some of the topics are:
- The DAOist
- Global Governance Gathering
- The DAOist’s MetaHub in Lisbon
- Entrepreneurship metaphors
- Punching walls
- The ADHD of DAOs
- Metaphysics, poetry & pottery
Felipe is one of the DA-OGs that was involved in projects like DAOstack, DAOFest, Metafactory, and PrimeDAO. Then he gathered around himself a team of artists to form The DAOist. The DAOist is a story about people who want to think differently about events and organize more intentional gatherings.
Recently they created the MetaHub in Lisbon as a “plug-and-play creative retreat for the DAO space.” This hub for decentralized creativity attracts projects and groups to come together and focus on creative problems, as well as complex technological or political discussions. The MetaHub plans on providing every tool needed to catalyze thoughts and actions and, at the same time, feels like home.
Felipe promotes focusing on things that are immediately doable to us and set actionable steps, keeping us grounded, feeling achieved & on an upward spiral while always keeping in mind that thoughts are actions and can affect the outside world as well as ourselves.
"I don't think governance is like code, that you can just fork the system, and it works. I think governance depends on contextual navigation and hyper-aware practitioners."
MetaView #21 - Decentralized Space Mission & Minimizing Dystopia w/ Stellar Magnet
Star Trek and Star Wars both picture a future where space has become a geopolitical battleground for nations. Stellar Magnet wants to build the counterpart to that dystopian image.
Her goal with “Black Sky” is to create a decentralized and non-governmental organization that is a serious contributor to the future of humanity and space.
Some of the topics of this episode are:
- Large-scale cooperative DAOs
- DAO2DAO collaboration
- SubDAO design
- Decentralized space agency
- What else Black Sky wants to do
Huge aspirations require specific designs: Stellar wants to build a very large-scale cooperative DAO, where millions of people own a small part, and that stands opposed to DAOs where whales own most because they put the money.
A decentralized space agency is a project that needs billions of dollars to be successful. But if it is, then Stellar believes this project can make the world more connected and inspire future generations to think beyond nationality and race.
“If we have a more peaceful, united world that is no longer in constant war, then what the world would be doing is exploring space, understanding the cosmos, trying to find out where we come from. Finding answers about evolution and if there's extraterrestrial intelligent life out there.”
To get started on this great journey, Stellar is seeking for funding for two smaller projects. One is “Black Sky Nexus,” a zine and a wiki that wants to teach people with articles and guides about privacy and anonymity.
The other project is an artist's residency in New Mexico that wants to support women that create digital art to experiment with NFTs.
MetaView #20 - DAOfying Gitcoin & Greenpillin' The World
As you may already know, Owocki & the gang have been shifting Gitcoin into being a DAO. However, trying not to be the benevolent dictator anymore doesn’t mean he has less work to do. He wrote a book, he’s trying to figure out how impact DAOs can scale, and he and the Gitcoin team just announced Grants 2.0. While doing all this, the mission remains the same: funding public goods & greenpillin’ the world.
Some of this episode’s topics are:
- What Gitcoin DAO is up to these days
- bdfl to bdf5y (benevolent dictator for 5 years)
- What scares Kevin the most
- How to play the Green Pilled game
- Schelling points
- Regenerative crypto
Owocki and the Gitcoin community want to build “the Schelling point for building and funding public goods.” Grants 2.0 is an architecture to do exactly this with a pluralistic vision. It will be not only a decentralized protocol but also a list of projects and a grants registry to find the best ways to fund those projects.
Kevin’s vision is to build “more than decentralized casinos.” His book Green Pilled explains how to scale coordination to have a positive and regenerative impact on the world.
"Regenerative crypto is all about creating a world in which we can coordinate positive impact."
While Green Pilled describes the theoretical concepts, Kevin is working on a second book that will be an empirical resource of impact DAOs and their missions. The book’s title will be "The impact DAO cartography club."
MetaView #19 - Jordan Hall on Gameb & Incentive Landscapes
Jordan saw himself pulled into the technology milieu early on and lived a life as an archetypical west coast tech entrepreneur until seeing through the facade & carving another path, of digging into misaligned incentives & existential risks in the world at large. Years later, we see him as one of the originators of the GameB meme.
In this episode, Jordan explains to Peth that we are in the middle of a changing system, from an old parasitical system that needs to die. But this is good because it’s the chance for us to redesign every institution, all human infrastructure, and navigate the transition to something new.
Some of the topics:
- GameA & Game
- Crypto space
- One sentence on the Moloch problem
- Incentive landscapes
- The ecology and evolution of crypto
- Signals that tell you when a system is dying
The meme of GameB has two notions. Firstly, the notion of the game. The human world is constructed by humans, and we are making choices in the game of life. We need to realize that we can make different choices and change the game's rules.
The second notion is the movement from A to B. How do we go from Game A to Game B? What’s the right direction to take?
Sure is that every living thing & human-made system has a finite life span. Every system will eventually get parasites, so we have to gracefully put it to rest and make space for the birth of a new system. How do we know the time has come? "If it's shitheads everywhere then you know it's the end of the cycle."
MetaView #18 - Xavier and Leen on Active Citizenship & DAOs
DAOs should aim for local actions and reconnect citizens with nature, the city, and with their neighbors, say Xavier and Leen from DAO Brussels and All for Climate.
In this episode, they talk with Peth about the ability of DAOs to have their own economies and to reward people for community work.
Some of the topics are:
- Localism: starting the system’s change in front of your doorstep
- Community-owned economies
- Permissionless experimentation
- The concepts of liberating structures and artful participation
- Reasons to look more towards the east and less towards the west
- Active citizenship
Xavier is originally from Belgium and lived in San Fransisco for ten years, working on a start-up. He and Leen met in Brussels, and together, they want to contribute to solving the climate emergency. With DAO Brussels, they create an inclusive space to experiment with new coordination and build bridges between the crypto community and local citizens.
They say “doing is the new thinking,” and only experimenting can navigate us through the chaos we live in. However, speed is useless if you go in the wrong direction. "The fastest way to accelerate a systems change is to actually slow down and take a minute: Why are we working together? What is our goal? What is around us? What is right now right here needed to make a tiny change today?"
Frontiers Of Coordination #5 Keeping Web3 Real w/ Daniel Ospina
Daniel is a design facilitator and leadership nerd that started as a chef. From a restaurant where he learned about molecular cuisine and the intersection of science & cooking but got annoyed by hierarchy, to helping people build decentralized organizations & starting rnDAO.
His journey was anything but straight. From the food industry through consumer electronics, he played various roles before transitioning to creativity consultancy and organization design with a specialization in self management, a path that led him through systems thinking and cybernetics and finally into web3 and DAOs.
Some of the topics:
- Molecular cuisine???
- Governance and coordination in Web2 vs Web3
- Making innovation communities sustainable
- The tension between communities and investability
- Discipline & creativity
- The issues with VC funding
- The importance of communities
- Metrics and OKRs
"Hopefully with these new mechanisms we can create a more sustainable and
collaborative way to do these sorts of deep innovation that is happening to some degree in crypto and Web3, but really now take it to the next step and help bring DAOs mainstream. We need a lot of perspectives because governance, community-architecture and this whole new types of organizations and this better way of organizing are very complex.”
Frontiers Of Coordination #4 Aaron Of Govrn On Governance Corruption & Transparency
It's never too late to talk about decentralized governance, says Aaron the founder of Govrn. So in this episode, Peth and Aaron discuss the question of "How do we turn politics from a negative-sum game (what it is right now) into a positive-sum game? How can we realign our incentives to be on the same team?"
Govrn builds bottom-up coordination tools for DAOs with the motto "For everything that governs you, you should be able to govern back." At Govrn, they see all types of contributions as governance; you are voting with every action you take.
Some of the topics are:
- Bottom-up incentive structures
- Bounties for politicians
- Outcome coalitions
- Staking your work
- Arguments for transparent bribery
- Putting check and balances on the leaders
- The importance of rewriting Manifestos
- How to keep organizations fluid
Growing up, Aaron was always interested and engaged in politics. He did a lot of work on incentive alignment to understand organizational behavior while doing management consulting for a large firm. This firm made him learn about blockchain and DAOs. When he realized the possible implications of DAOs on society, he became obsessed with it. So he quit his job and went full time into DAOs.
“I think a lot of people define themselves by the organization they're part of. But that's not it. The organization doesn't define you, you define the organization."
Frontiers of Coordination #3 Capture Resistant Organizations with Spencer from DAOhaus
The whole space is wrestling with the question, “What is a DAO?”. Spencer from DAOhaus has thought about this intensively and shares his definition and the reasons why he loves working for DAOs in this episode.
“I realized that the thing that DAOs are really great at, or what makes them so different from traditional organizations, is that they are resistant to capture. Their coordination mechanisms and the resources that they control are not capturable by bad actors.”
Some of the topics:
- How the broken health system pushed Spencer into the crypto rabbit hole
- Managing your commitment, time availability, and workload
- What it takes to be a DAO
- The problems of token governance and multi-sig solutions
- Integrating cultural values into technology
- The importance of decentralized executive power
Spencer has a background in economics and psychology. After working as a product manager in the healthcare industry, he started contributing to different crypto projects like Safe DAI, and Raid Guild, until DAOhaus became his main focus.
When he got into crypto, he thought this could revolutionize the healthcare system by giving patients control over their personal data that corporations, hospitals, and insurance companies have been fighting over for years.
But the hierarchy and dysfunctionality made it impossible for him to do anything & for these new solutions to work properly, so he left the healthcare industry and focused on DAO tooling and infrastructure to help enable a better way of working together.
Humans of MetaGame #6 - Misanth The Onboarding Wizard
Starting as a video editor, Misanth joined MetaGame in late October of 2020. Having never been a part of a DAO, he wasn’t sure what to expect and was sweating when needing to talk in the community calls. Since then, he grew into the role of the onboarding champion, which turned out to be a natural fit for Misanth.
In this episode, Peth talks with Misanth about his life before MetaGame, his journey from quitting IT studies, being a tourist guide for many years, and struggling to find a “normal” job due to lack of formal education until he joined MetGame where he is now shining as the Champion of Onboarding - making sure others are properly welcomed & find their spot as smoothly as possible.
Some of the topics are:
- The benefits of waking up early
- The Misanth before MetaGame
- Decentralized working opposed to classic hierarchical structures
- The clash and the crossovers between hype and getting things done
- The innovational technology behind NFTs, overshadowed by cash grabs
- Ideas for a web3 community tool
- Meta OS
“Honestly, I was looking for a way out of the loop. [...] In regular jobs, everybody knows their position in the company. And with that comes a lot of either ego or roleplaying. I didn’t like the attitude in general.”
Misanth came in hope of an opportunity to stop doing those jobs but stayed for the community and a sense of purpose. MG wants to build bridges between those enthusiastic about changing the current way of things and who want to improve and create things.
The episode concludes with Peth and Misanth saying that we’re all still figuring things out.
“All of this is really new. A formation of culture, I would say.”
“So, just jump in, don’t be afraid to try things, and give us feedback. And wait for the MetaOS!”
Share What You're Makin' w/ Chair & Bacon #5 - 0xJoshua from Opolis
In February, it’s time again for ETHDenver, which continuously has been the largest web3 event in the world with about 10.000 guests in person and 50.000 tuning in online. Projects like POAP and 1Inch came out of ETHDenver, and it’s the first event for many folks coming into the space.
Josh left Consensys in February 2020 and found his new job at ETHDenver, volunteering at the registration and merch table. He ended up with Opolis. Now, Josh is building the community at Opolis, he is the merch steward of ETH Denver, the treasurer at Spork DAO, the founder of RainbowRolls, a member of MetaCartel, and Patron of MetaGame.
In this episode, Chair & Bacon discuss with Josh the legal liability as a freelancer in the US working for a DAO, and Josh shares some ETHDenver alpha in February.
Some of the topics are:
- How Opolis helps with your payroll, taxes, health benefits, and more
- Spork token & benefits of the Bufficorn Buidl Brigade
- The Colorado cooperatives law and the legalization of DAOs
- A DeFi dev running for congress in Oregon
- Reading tips for web3 newbies
- What to look forward to at ETH Denver
“We are living in this wild, wild west. We don’t know how legislation is going to look like in the future & we don’t know what security will be there. So contributing to a DAO as an individual is incredibly risky.”
Opolis is a cooperative that wants to bring peace of mind to freelancers, not only those working in web3. The requirements to join are minimum wage income and having an employment entity in the US. Opolis helps with setting up a company, paying invoices in crypto, it takes care of your taxes, insurance, and even provides unemployment benefits.
The episode concludes with Josh sharing some highlights for ETH Denver. Check out ColoradoJam Incubator and Bufficorn Ventures from Spork DAO. And claim your Spork token, if you haven’t yet, for attending ETH Denver in 2018 or 19!
- 0xJoshua on Twitter
- Opolis website
- Opolis’ $WORK token
- ETH Denver 2022
- Sergio Ordonez Twitter
- Sergio Ordonez Instagram
- Spork DAO
- MetaCartel ecosystem
- The Defiant about Colorado’s cooperatives law
- Yearn developer Matt West
- Meditations & Moloch by Scott Alexander
- Rabbit Hole
- Pizza DAO
MetaView #17 - The Economy of GIVing
Lauren, aka karmaticacid, is a Giveth comms steward, GIVeconomy product manager, TEC steward & self-proclaimed hippie living in the jungles of Costa Rica. She usually lurks behind the scenes as a MetaGame Player writing shownotes for our podcast… like this one. She escaped her soulless 9-5 as a mechanical engineer some years ago to study permaculture & organic farming. She discovered Giveth & the DAO space through a friend from an intentional community and fell in love with the concept of saving the world with engineering.
Lauren explains Giveth as a group of value-aligned people revolutionizing giving, so it’s no longer a system of giving and losing, and exploiting the altruists so society wins and individuals lose. Giveth is a place where you can give and receive and in the future the platform will transform into a place where givers become investors in for-good projects, and projects are empowered to become their own DAOs. In this episode, Lauren & Peth discuss everything from the GIVeconomy to Ecovillages to DAOs - it’s one you don’t want to miss.
Some of the Topics
- What is “Revolutionizing Giving”?
- The GIVeconomy - 5 parts
- The history of the GIV token
- Eco Villages in Costa Rica
- Making building materials out of waste plastic
- Collaborative Economics
- Inspiring intrinsic motivation
- Teaching kids to be autonomous
- The meaning of decentralization
- Conflict management & community building
Lauren & Peth dive deep into the concept of bridging the metaspace with the meatspace. The long-term vision of Giveth is to bring the tools of web3 to on-the-ground projects, and to use tokenonics and DAO coordination on-the-ground. In this future “no longer do we rely on altruists & nonprofits to give of themselves to have clear water & clear air to breath, we can make everyone in the system be rewarded and benefit. We are creating collective universal abundance.”
The conversation flows from philosophical chats on conflict resolution, decentralization, intrinsic motivation & more. GIV’r a listen if you like fun, inspiration & abundance.
- karmaticacid Twitter
- GIVdrop claim
- Giveth Discord
- Giveth Twitter
- Diamante Bridge Collective
- Plastic Bottle Bricks
- 1hive Gardens framework
- Welcome to the GIVeconomy
- Commons Configuration Dashboard
- Augmented Bonding Curves
- Commons Stack
- Token Engineering Commons
- Gravity DAO
Frontiers of Coordination #2 with David Ehrlichman The Impact Networks Coordinator
Peth and David Ehrlichman, author of the new book Impact Networks discuss his background, experiences with social impact networks as well as the importance of leadership & collaboration between multiple sectors to tackle core systematic issues.
In a classical story of disillusionment with his corporate job, helping share holders grow more wealthy whilst living amongst such obvious systematic problems like homelessness, David went on to work for a nonprofit organization - where he noticed a broken system. People working towards their individual organizations and projects and looking to solve only a small piece of a much larger puzzle.
After his work with the nonprofit and realization of these real world problems, David continued his social impact journey by founding Converge and helping build over a dozen social impact networks, aiding more in their Journey. This ultimately is what led him to write Impact networks and down the rabbit hole that is Web3 and DAOs.Topics
- David’s background and inspiration behind Impact Networks
- How to solve core systematic issues through proper communication & collaboration
- Importance of leadership in a decentralized networks & communities
- Maintaining balance between self direction and convergence with the community
- The need to create opportunities for people to contribute and be rewarded for their effort
Leadership and collaboration are the fundamentals to success in this space. “Human communities organizing with technology is where a lot of potential and magic lies. Technology without humans is just tech, it can support coordination but ultimately comes down to people working with people and that presents a lot of challenges.”
It is amazing that people wish to come together to collaborate on common goals of any kind, however, organization and communication are crucial to ensure everyone is moving forward in alignment. Decision making becomes more difficult as groups grow larger, meaning, it's better to start small and expand thoughtfully and intentionally. In conclusion, Peth and David fully explored the complexities around collaborating and the importance of creating leadership roles in decentralized networks while solving real world problems in the process!Quotes of the day
“Leadership always matters its just a different type of leadership that we see in hierarchical environments.”
“Community without a boundary sometimes is not a community at all”Resources
- David Ehrlichman’s LinkedIn
- David Ehrlichman’s Twitter
- Book: Impact Networks
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Frontiers of Coordination #1 with Richard D. Bartlett The Pre-DAO DAO OG
Richard D. Bartlett, aka “Rich dB”, has been working in pre-blockchain “DAOs” since the 2011 Occupy Wallstreet Movement. An engineer by training, Rich has merged his problem solving skills with his passion for compassionate, intelligent and inclusive ways of being together. He is the co-founder of Loomio and The Hum, and a director and longstanding member of Enspiral. Rich is rich with thoughts about “small-scale, high-trust cooperative organizing” and is now on a mission to fill in his knowledge gaps about what is happening at the cutting edge of DAO tech in web3.
In this episode, Peth picks Rich’s brain about pros and cons of decentralized orgs, pros and cons of hierarchical orgs, DAO benefits and drawbacks, common DAO misconceptions and... Wtf even are DAOs?! There is a huge focus on the core values and needs of members within decentralized groups, and how we can use these to create and scale projects.
Some of the Topics:
- Occupy Wallstreet movement
- Pros/Cons of Hierarchy
- Scaling of leadership within armies
- Leadership within decentralized orgs
- Conflict Transformation & Reflection
- Trusteless Orgs
- Voting & Decision Making Processes
- What makes a DAO?
- How to create meaningful change
Peth & Rich explore a wide range of DAO concepts and perspectives. Rich explains some critical lessons learned from his experiences with decentralized orgs, in particular, the necessity of building and maintaining trust. When conflicts arise, there needs to be a process to resolve them and, better yet, reflect upon them to make organized change for the future.
The episode concludes Rich’s advice to metagamers to consider “the microscale”. Before completely redesigning society, consider the relationship between just two people: How can you increase mutual trust and support within that relationship?. “Organizations are just a big stack of human relationships,” so what you learn about trust and coordination between individuals can teach you a lot about organizing as a decentralized team.
Humans of MetaGame #5 - Alec The Game B Builder
Alec is an experienced software developer, a parent and passionate about building a world on more resilient foundations. He currently lives in Salt Lake City and is a proud builder of MetaGame.
Alec had had a very successful career as a software developer for 15 years and worked on various challenging projects, but yearned for something more fulfilling. His experience as a developer however enabled him to set up a well-balanced life and have time for adventure and self-exploration. Growing older and wiser, he realized the value of "setting the ground for a more resilient future" which eventually led him to MetaGame. Alec is one of the few people that wasn't led to MetaGame by the usual crypto route. He came because he resonated with Game B values that MetaGame espoused.
He explains that Game B is a thought framework which takes a radical departure from the current socio-economic system and its predicaments, prioritizing meaning-making and impactful work. However, Alec expresses his frustration with Game B resources which are often too vague and offer no practical roadmap. Alec then reminds us that these revolutionary potentials of crypto are ultimately dependent to an infrastructure that the current failing system has made possible. In his words, "crypto is not the solution to everything."
Some of the topics that were discussed:
- Collective Trauma, healing and the importance of mental health.
- Non-specialized work, freelancing and UBI as stress relief.
- Game B
- The Metaverse as escapism from real world problems.
- The challenges of intentional communities.
- The problems of relying on investors in financing a cause
Finishing it off, the discussion turns to MetaGame, its evolution and its relationship to other DAOs. Peth and Alec agree on its goal of addressing crypto-newbies and functioning as a curator of web3 knowledge.
Alec is in it for the long run; his hopes and ambitions for the world are about long-term sustainability. He thinks that the degradation that the current system is bringing to the world to the world will only continue but a transition to an alternative need not be violent. This is where block-chain can shine! MetaGame is on the right path.
Share What You're Makin' w/ Chair & Bacon #4 - Dekan Brown
Dekan is a Solidity developer & web3 shadowy super coder extraordinaire. He’s a lead at DAOhaus, a project dedicated to giving people the functionality to make DAOs run. In this episode Chair, unfortunately with no side of pork, catches Dekan in the wake of MCON and the two discuss reflections on web3’s past, and expectations for the next 2 years.
Dekan is a beacon of knowledge and experience in web3 development. He’s been building since days when every app had its own wallet, and DAO memberships & ephemeral keys were kept in local storage. He watched as web3 development moved from a nerdy space of devs passionate about privacy, encryption & decentralization to the land of UI/UX design, NFTs, defi opportunities and expansive communities. Short & sweet, this conversation w Chair & Dekan dives into assessments of this evolution and the importance of preserving early web3 values.
Some of the topics:
- Web3 app hiccups in 2018
- DAO cultural shifts as UX designers & artists entering the space
- Defi & apeing in
- Spam NFT phishing
- Non-technical roles
- Encryption and privacy
- Cross-DAO integration
As a well sought-after Solidity dev, Dekan emphasizes that the foundation of web3 is decentralization, encryption & privacy. We’re trying to build more than just “web2.5”, and he recognizes that “non-technical people still have to make a cognitive leap into this world of thinking about things using the blockchain and smart contracts”.
The conversation concludes with a discussion of DAO collaboration projects and awesome tech. They touch on instances of using sidechain vote logic and DAO membership to control mainnet funds and take advantage of massive liquidity. It’s an episode you don’t want to miss! Keep listening at the end for a DAO-for-beginners back-and-forth with Chair & Bacon.
MetaView #16 - Liminal Village with Roberto and Laura
Roberto and Laura are co-founders of Liminal Village - a living and co-creating space in the center of Italy. In part inspired by Jacques Fresco’s idea of a Resource Based Economy, Liminal, meaning “a place of transition” or “a place that occupies both sides”, aims to bring value-aligned people together to build networks and co-create the future. They aim to support people to create value for the world, heal themselves and heal the collective, emphasizing the balance of personal, local and global needs.
In September, Roberto & Laura have hosted the first MetaGame worktreat & Liminal Village has recently been onboarded as the first physical guild in MetaGame. In this episode, we get into the details of Roberto & Laura’s origin stories, the beginnings of Liminal Village and details and philosophies of the village hubs.
Some of the Topics:
- Providing free access to networks
- Personal, local and global needs
- Emotions manifesting as physical disease
- Syncing work with lunar and solar cycles
- Cons of Hackathons
- Upgrading society’s OS
- Resource mapping & sharing
Peth, Roberto & Laura discuss using natural cycles to guide progress, and focus on the need to “upgrade the operating system of society”; transitioning from money-driven industry to community-driven resource sharing. They dive deep into the importance of cultivating personal growth and community support, and the profound impacts these philosophies can have on the build in web3.
Share What You're Makin' w/ Chair & Bacon #3 - Ross From LexDAO
Ross Campbell is the self-described “summoner” of LexDAO - a group of “shadowy super lawyers” on a mission to “research, develop and evangelize first-class legal methods and blockchain protocols that secure rules and promises with code rather than trust”. He’s a corporate lawyer turned crypto enthusiast who found web3 through his job (of all places) when clients started asking questions about the legal status of bitcoin. In this episode, Chair & Bacon interview Ross about all things legal & crypto, from smart contracts to e-residency to questionable characters in web3.
Some of the Topics:
- Working online and legal system compatibility
- Improving the efficiency of financial agreements w Blockchain
- Onboarding lawyers into web3
- LexDAO offerings & support
- Connecting politics & DAOs
- The legal future of crypto
- Revamping citizenship
In a conversation that is both technical and fun, they dive into questions about how to integrate law into web3, how much longer to expect the “crypto wild west”, and the pros & cons of geographically-tethered nations. They also touch on Indian tag-wrestling pro sports, questionable politicians and Satoshi impersonators. Ross is a beacon of legal knowledge in a space of grey areas, and this is an episode you don’t want to miss!
Share What You're Makin' w/ Chair & Bacon #2 - Rambling w Yalor
Chair and Bacon are back! But not for long as they’re going on the roooad!! The road to MCON!
With them on this journey is one of the mangers of MCON, Yalor! Except…they don’t talk about MCON at all… Instead they have an interesting talk where they ramble through various topics surrounding governance and DAOs. Listen in for new insights and their opinions on the future of DAOs!
MetaView #15 - Collaboration and Regenerativity with LuukDAO
Luuk is a Curaçao-born, Netherlands-dwelling, self-proclaimed “DAOist”. Starting his career learning administrative philosophy, he quickly fell down the DAO rabbit hole looking for ways to put abstract concepts into action. He is passionate about building organizations that leverage the efficiency, transparency and decentralization of web3 infrastructure and apply them to real-world problems.
In collaboration with DAOstack, Luuk started CuraDAO, a community-driven, blockchain-powered social impact project that provides financial resources, support and knowledge to the community of Curaçao. He’s heavily involved with Kolectivo, PrimeDAO and the DAOist and is constantly looking for better ways to use blockchain to create regenerative systems that empower people and change the world. In this episode, Peth & Luuk discuss all things DAO, sustainable, regenerative and economic.
Some of the topics:
- CuraDAI and token engineering
- Regenerative economics
- Tokenizing physical spaces
- Stimulating and incentivizing environmental regeneration
- Challenges associated with using crypto in Curaçao
- Contributor compensation
- Scaling technology
- DAO-to-DAO collaboration
Peth & Luuk get in-depth on the origin story of PrimeDAO and its evolution as a collaborative project of DAOs sharing resources and working together to advance Open Finance. Luuk remarks that, “it’s the embodiment of this positive sum game mindset. We don’t try to build much from scratch but try to connect the pieces that otherwise wouldn’t be connected.”
The episode concludes emphasizing the value of working together to build the infrastructure that ultimately provides the opportunity to regenerate the Earth and create more space for us all to live freely and apply ourselves to our passions.
Share What You're Makin' w/ Chair & Bacon #1 - Penguin on Never Touch Fiat Again
Welcome to the inaugural episode of a new MetaGame Series called “Share What You’re Making” where our hosts, Chair and Bacon interview web3 people with innovative ideas and projects. In this episode, the benevolent flightless bird Penguin makes an appearance introducing his latest endeavour: NTFA.io.
NFTA, “Never Touch Fiat Again” is an exciting project that bridges crypto markets and traditional financial markets by creating and selling NFTs that actually own gold. When you buy an NFT from NTFA, you can connect to a local vault management application and request that your physical gold be delivered to you securely. When the gold is claimed and shipped, the NFT actually evolves - encouraging NFT owners to get their hands on that shiny metal.
Some of the Topics
- Getting NTFA NFTs and claiming your gold
- Dystopian Future NFTs
- Wearables and bonuses
- The efficacy of other precious metals
- Supporting more artists
- Why the name “Never Touch Fiat Again”
- The power of gold
Penguin excitedly introduces three epic NFTs created with support from artists LKH, Mlibty and Misanth - all transformable, complete with music and 3D graphics, and featuring dystopian future themes. He talks about the future of NTFA, dreaming of streamlining the process of onboarding new artists and getting their work backed by real world assets.
When asked where the name NTFA came from, Penguin confesses that he loves the name. “The idea is that banks have a phobia of crypto, but they’re never going to close your account for selling gold.” Penguin is a revolutionary and has been consistently burning fiat and moving towards all-crypto over the last several years. With NTFA, there’s a way to exit crypto to gold without any off ramps or contact with the USD. Check it out today: https://ntfa.io/
Humans of MetaGame #4 - Dan The Ram
Dan is a software developer, born and raised in Bangalore, India, who jumped into MetaGame in the summer of 2020. In his former life, he studied mathematics and computing, and went on to join Flipkart as a full stack developer. Two years of working on the security team brought some interesting and valuable learning experiences, and a bit of an ominous forecast of what his future might look like - sitting in traffic for hours to suffer through corporate arguments while working on someone else’s ideas.
After a backpacking trek throughout India and a psychedelic adventure, Dan decided to live radically and commit to blockchain! He learned Solidity, joined a Gitcoin hack-a-thon and started making a living with his work in the cryptospace before discovering MetaGame & Raid Guild and fully immersing. In this episode, get up close and personal with Dan to learn all about his journey down the MetaGame rabbit hole and his perspectives on governments, DAOs, and the future.
Some of the Topics
- Life in corporate India (spoiler: same as corporate anywhere)
- Perspectives of Indian parents on work in the blockchain
- Gamification and building operating systems for societies
- Stabilizing Seed price
- London hard fork
- DAppNode and decentralized hardware
- Avoiding burnout
Dan talks about how yes, the current global system isn’t working anymore but “there’s no point in saying that unless you are coming up with a new system. MetaGame may be an experiment, but it is building something new and that’s very exciting”. They discuss exciting projects within MetaGame and look to the future - working with Raidguild to combine Skill Trees and the content of Playbooks.
Finally, Peth and Dan talk about the passion and enthusiasm of contributors in the space - talking about great Players like Luxumbra and Penguin, and the inspiring and welcoming way of people in MetaGame. The episode closes with a reminder to take good care of yourself to avoid burnout, and not hesitate to reach out for support.
MetaView #14 - Building Decentralized Systems & Impact Pirates with Sebnem of TokenEngineeringCommons
Sebnem is a researcher, entrepreneur, computer scientist, systems thinker and all-around superstar who has been deep in the token engineering space since 2016. Before jumping into the space, she specialized in peer-to-peer energy sharing systems, and was interested in decentralized business models that would make these systems viable. Token Engineering offered the potential to build the infrastructure and tooling to manage decentralized organizations and provide resiliency to inherently complex and dynamic systems.
In this episode, Peth and Sebnem talk about some of the nitty-gritty elements of token engineering - cadCAD, systems modelling, incentivization, governance structures, etc. - with an emphasis on using this technology to create a better world for us all. They talk about using the cryptospace for value creation that can be shared globally to support a wide range of initiatives and communities.
Some of the Topics
- A Hitchhiker’s Guide to Token Engineering
- Impact Pirates bridging ecovillages & tech tools
- MetaGame and the focus on community well-being
- Benefits of being an early adopter
- Game-based learning and systems thinking
The conversation covers a wide range of interesting resources (below!), ultimately focusing on the paradigm shift that we are bringing about through the technological build on the blockchain. “We should use all these technologies and capabilities to have more human space, to connect more with nature, to live more.”
There, she goes into her latest project called Impact Pirates which is all about connecting, cross-pollinating & supporting physical self-sustainable eco-villages & communities in a digital world.
Sebnem’s advice to MetaGamers is to acknowledge the speed of movement in the crypto space, know that there are many “low hanging fruits to be had” in the form of opportunity for profit, search for balance and resonance. As we collaborate to build out this infrastructure, keep doing what you are doing to excite participants into an awareness of what is possible for the world.
Autonomous B2 - Nelson Melina & Diana Morret on Rebuilding Rural Areas
The Autonomous Podcast B series explores the ideas of “fixing the world” through Grassroots movements and non-profits. In this episode, our host Nelson interviews Diana Morret, creator of Pandora Hub, Civic Hub, and other changemaking projects.
Diana comes from rural Spanish roots. Her Father’s family was forced to abandon their village because of the miscalculation of a dam that was built next to the riverside. Diana’s history and the history of villages in Spain inspired her to start Pandora hub as a passion project. She wanted to rebuild rural villages by creating bridges between sophisticated technology and rural changemaking movements.
In this episode Diana walks us through ins and outs of the programs offered by Pandora hub and Civic Hub. We explore the challenges and opportunities that arise from creating collaboration opportunities between experienced developers and rural villagers.
Some of the topics
- Programs offered by Civic Hub and Pandora Hub
- Bridging the gap between local need and technology
- Connection and collaboration in times of COVID
- “Rural Shakers” leveraging local positive transformation
- Rural Co-living and Intentional Communities
Diana and Nelson discuss some of the hurdles that must be overcome by radical-thinking social activists who really want to make a difference. Diana recognizes the laws that govern rural communities and the potential obstacles this creates for free-thinkers interested in regeneration. The solution? Diana believes in large-scale group collaboration: “A massive structural change needs to be done, and I believe collectivization is the way to do it.”
Humans of Metagame #3 - Luxumbra the Swiss Knife
Luxumbra is a manual-laborer-turned-developer-turned-cat-herder that found MetaGame initially as DAO newbie researching Bitcoin use cases. In his crypto research, he stumbled upon Aragon and communities powered by Aragon. From there it was a classic story of falling into the rabbit hole and falling in love with communities that are genuinely more interested in creating value than extracting value. In his past lives, Luxumbra has been a developer, a construction worker, an educator, a traveller, and an artist. Today, he is a Human of MetaGame.
In this episode, Luxumbra and Peth discuss MetaGame and the world of DAOs: exploring Luxumbra’s personal history in tandem with an exploration of pros and cons of work life in the web3 space, opportunities for devs and non-devs alike and different perspectives of the cryptoverse.
Some of the topics
- Meaningful web3 value creation
- The silent revolution in crypto happening beneath the profit-chasing surface
- Burnout and the importance of taking care of yourself
- Taking ownership of your work & self-direction
- The growth of MetaGame from its humble beginnings
Luxumbra and Peth discuss the force that is MetaGame, recognizing the strength of a dedicated community to “pull off” amazing offerings like MetaFest. They forecast the steady forward movement of MetaGame that will persist up to and throughout the next bull market as well as the bear market. They chat excitedly about the upcoming gathering in Italy and the novelty of meeting pseudonymous, faceless coworkers who became close friends.
The episode concludes with a very relatable discussion about the anxiety that often comes up for new folks in the DAO space trying to find their voice, and a heartfelt thank you from Luxumbra to the key Players that made MetaGame feel like home as well as a big thank you from peth to Luxumbra for all the support he has provided him & MetaGame. As for a final word of advice, to anyone interested in getting more involved: “Find something you align with and get DAO-ing it!”