
MindFolk
By Brian Pagán
Host Brian Pagán talks with scientists, artists, philosophers, and designers about how to build a more compassionate world. We discuss topics like human experience (UX) design, empathy, storytelling, ethics, privacy, and creativity.

MindFolkOct 22, 2021

#12 Interview with Ghada Alaa Hamdy: Food for Soul
How can love help us create sustainable change? Ghada Alaa Hamdy shares how she does it, both in the humanitarian sector and at home.
"We're trying really to experience coexistence in a practical way."
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References TopicsCommunication, Love, Psychological Safety, Culture, Growth, Bahá'í, Service, Harassment, Gender, Social Justice, Change Management, Inclusion
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#11 Interview with Cíntia Taylor: Where are you really from?
Some of humanity's most creative works come from an 'outside' perspective. Cíntia Taylor is one of those talented outsiders who moves fluidly between worlds while examining the spaces between them.
"If you're not the default, you... need support."
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Cíntia Taylorcintiataylor.com | taylored.eu | LinkedIn | Instagram
ReferencesClinch (film)
Your Hair is Cute (film)
TopicsScreenwriting, Improv, Creative Process, Race, Identity, Home, Imposter Syndrome, Shame, Trauma, Vulnerability
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#10 Interview with The Upgrade Society: Do-Be-Do
At any given moment in life, we can either do (take action) or be (simply exist). And we're closest to our true purpose when we can move between those states mindfully. Let's practice this together!
"One of the foundations of [do-be-do] is actually taking the time and the silence to be for a moment and to connect."
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PeopleThe Upgrade Society
The Upgrade Society's Website
Thomas Swaak
The Essentialist Website
Sujith Ravindran
Sujith on LinkedIn
Rolf van Haren
Rolf van Haren @ LinkedIn
VUCA: volatility, uncertainty, complexity and ambiguity
TopicsCreativity, VUCA, Leadership, Mindfulness, Activism, Non-judgement, Meaningful Value, Ego
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#9 Interview with Sherin Wafaai: Bath Towels and Boundaries
It's not easy to sashay between two worlds, but it can be incredibly rewarding. Sherin Wafaai examines with us her practice for turning anger into compassion, the importance of our own boundaries, and transforming trauma into purpose.
⚠️ This one goes to a dark place not necessarily suitable for kids...
"Where there is no love, put love, and then there will be love."
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Sherin WafaaiInstagram | Sherin's LinkedIn Profile | Healers & Guides
ReferencesConscious Leadership with Jim Dethmer
TopicsCompassion, Leadership, Trauma, Healing, Love, Empathy, UX, Design, Creative Career, Shame, Grace, Boundaries
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#8 Interview with Goran Mrvoš: Fostering a Culture of Resilience & Empathy
No organization or company survives 19 years by accident. Goran Mrvoš opens up about how being in nature helps him nurture his own, and his company's, emotional intelligence, grit, and enthusiasm for experimentation.
"Being young in your soul is not a matter of age, but of mindset. "
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Goran MrvošInstagram | Goran's LinkedIn Profile | Infosit Website | Apprais.ly
TopicsRemote Work, Company Culture, Nature, Employee Assessment, Creativity, Empathy, App Engagement, Emotional Intelligence, Psychological Safety, Digital Detox, Barter Deals
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#7 Interview with Adedana Ashebir: It's Gonna Be OK
Within each of us resides at least one fundamental paradox: a contradiction that makes us who we uniquely are. Adedana Ashebir shares with us how her paradoxes fuel her journey toward self-compassion, her relationships with friends & family, and her career in venture capital, empowering overlooked entrepreneurs.
"The PhD-level [of empathy] is: how to have grace for other people, when they don't have grace for you ."
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Adedana AshebirInstagram | Twitter | @Afracanah on Insta | Afracanah on Twitter | Village Capital
TopicsGrace, Imposter Syndrome, Love, Empathy, Theater, Faith, Collective Trauma, Race, Investment Capital, Entrepreneurship, Stress
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#6 Interview with Abdalla Shaheen: Nature is the Best Teacher
The worst crisis inspires the most meaningful change. Abdalla Shaheen shares with Brian the story of his own crisis, finding love in the Sinai, getting married via Google Translate, and experiencing Bedouin superpowers first-hand.
"You are here on a training mission to learn how to tame your ego."
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Abdalla Shaheen ReferencesThe Purpose of Life by Jeffrey Lang
TopicsSpirituality, Religion, Transformation, Ego, Love, Natural Living, Compassion, Relationships, Sustainability
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#5 Interview with Karin Ackerholm: Design is Building Relationships
Interaction designers often transition into other creative roles, and Karin Ackerholm is no exception. She talks with Brian about having curiosity as a superpower, learning empathy from immigrants, and dedicating her career to making the world more sustainable for all of us.
"Should we spend our funding on things that make the world better or worse?"
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LinkedIn profile | University bio
Brainpickings: Paula Scher on Combinatorial Creativity
Topics
Sustainability, Innovation, Sustainable Business, Refugees, Comfort in Discomfort, Curiosity, Relationship-Building, Creative Career, Stress, Self-Care, Empathy
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#4 Interview with Joost MF Liebregts: Change & Innovation
We each face challenges differently, and no one has faced 2020's challenges like Joost MF Liebregts. He shares with Brian the story of how he successfully pivoted his business, and they discuss the happy intersection between sustainability and good business.
"It's an erosion of status quo that makes change happen."
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Joost MF LiebregtsJoost on LinkedIn | Purpose Design | Shots of Purpose
References TopicsGardening, Sustainability, Entrepreneurship, Creative Career, Experimentation, Inspiration, Privilege, Design Sprints, Digital Workshops, Barter Deals, Value-Based Pricing
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#3 Interview with Chiara Vercesi: Finding your Creative Voice
From romance novels to board games to The Washington Post, Chiara Vercesi's creative career is far from 'standard.' In this conversation, she takes Brian on a journey from introducing Grandma to homosexuality to having an agent in New York and co-founding Sail Ho Studio.
"I prefer harsh reality over comfortable lies."
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Chiara VercesiChiara's website | Behance | Instagram | Sail Ho Studio
TopicsIllustration, Empathy, Relationships, Creative Career, Rationality, Atheism, Homosexuality, Portfolio Advice, Listening, Diffusion, Creative Process
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#2 MindSnack: Privacy and Convenience
As we experiment with different formats, Brian presents our first MindSnack, a short monologue on a topic he finds interesting. This one is about privacy.
Rather than a limitation, Brian sees privacy as an opportunity to build a trusting, healthy relationship with our customers or audience. He outlines the GDPR's three most important concepts and lays out an ethical framework for Privacy by Design, all in less than 10 minutes.
"A healthy relationship between ourselves and our customers relies on fair value exchange."
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References TopicsPrivacy by Design, Privacy, Convenience, UX, eCommerce, GDPR, Data Protection, Ethical Design, Fair Value Exchange, Customer Experience
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#1 Interview with Melanja Palitta: Where Emotion and Creativity Live
In this wild interview, Brian speaks with Melanja Palitta: dancer, filmmaker, painter, photographer, yoga instructor, and all-around creative powerhouse. Their conversation about creativity quickly veers off into a thesis on Melanja's trifocal model of human emotion.
"The law of love is able to go beyond."
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Melanja PalittaBalanslab website | @melanjapalitta on Instagram
TopicsCreativity, Home, Relationships, Love vs Fear, Emotion, Energy, Spirituality, Logos, Painting, Dualism, Infinite Light, Gnosticism, Pina Bausch
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