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MSLA PodcastMay 22, 2023

MSLA Conference '23
A bunch of us went to the conference in Amherst, MA on March 19th and 20th of this year. It was our organization’s first in-person conference in four years. Ella and I captured a few on-the-floor interviews during our time there, and then had Conference Committee Co-Chair Alix Woznick speak to some of the reactions members had to the conference, including about locations, days, keynote speakers, food, and next year’s planning schedule.
Get involved with the conference comm: awoznick@maschoolibraries.org
Conference Committees Final Report: in a Google Slides doc
Official Conference Page: https://www.maschoolibraries.org/conference.html
Reach out to the podcast: podcast@maschoolibraries.org

Project SLIDE: The School Librarian Investigation—Decline or Evolution?
“I think the dirty little secret here is that parents are assuming that kids have access to libraries and school librarians and districts are not telling them otherwise, but the data speaks for itself,” says Project SLIDE Director Debra E. Kachel, a faculty member at the School Library Media Endorsement Program at Antioch University Seattle. She joins us from Pennsylvania along with SLIDE Principal Investigator Dr. Keith Curry Lance, a consultant at the RSL Research Group, joining us from Colorado. Co-host Deeth Ellis is the Head Librarian at Boston Latin School and a doctoral student at Simmons University who volunteered on Project SLIDE. Deeth joins Luke for a look at data and possible avenues for addressing uneven development and equity around school librarians in Massachusetts. We begin with background and a discussion of the health of data reported to the National Center for Education Statistics, and move into Massachusetts-specific elements of the study and resources to access them, and, finally, possibilities for advocacy. We hope the episode provides some talking points for you in your district, and use the links below for additional context:
Project SLIDE Massachusetts Data
Deeth's Academic Column on SLIDE (MSLA Forum)
National Center for Education Statistics
Why school librarians matter: What years of research tell us: When schools have high-quality library programs and librarians who share their expertise with the entire school community, student achievement gets a boost Apr. 2018, Phi Delta Kappan (Vol. 99, Issue 7)
The Sower: Interview with Keith Curry Lance, 2007, SLJ

Triage: Libraries and School Refusal and Reluctance
School is stressful for kids and adults and the phenomenon of school refusal, which is often caused by that stress, is nothing new. But has it been kicking up more dust in our post-lock down educational rebound? What can libraries do? Well, we discuss relationships and collaboration as a way forward with Ariel Dagan, from Tri County Regional Vocational Technical High school in Franklin; Bonnie McBride, Fenway High School in Boston; and Laura Gardner, Dartmouth Middle School. What do we mean by triage? How can books help? How are libraries complicit in refusal? Listen and find the balance...
Discussed:
Sign up for the MSLA Conference here!
Sparks, Sarah D. "Addressing the Link Between Anxiety, Depression, and Student Attendance." Education Week, vol. 42, no. 11, 26 Oct. 2022, p. NA. Gale In Context: Biography, link.gale.com/apps/doc/A724329114/GPS?u=mlin_m_wil&sid=bookmark-GPS&xid=b949767b. Accessed 2 Feb. 2023.
Bridge for Resilient Youth in Transition program (BRYT)
Laura’s Little Green News and here is the link to the October 2022 issue.
Victory. Stand!: Raising My Fist for Justice by Tommie Smith, Derrick Barnes and Dawud Anyabwile.
The Great Escape: A True Story of Forced Labor and Immigrant Dreams in America by Saket Soni
Dead End Girls by Wendy Heard
Fall in Love with the Problem, Not the Solution by Uri Levine
24/6: Giving Up Screens One Day a Week to Get More Time, Creativity, and Connection by Tiffany Shlain
Tiffany Schlain “Dear Student” (YouTube video)
Moonflower by Kacen Callender
Tuesday Mooney Talks to Ghosts by Kate Racculia
A Heart That Works by Rob Delaney

Supporting Independent Reading
For 2023’s first episode, we discuss independent reading and school library support. Joining the pod are Nancy Stenberg, who is the librarian at Dorman Elementary School in Springfield; Sarah Murphy, Kennedy Middle School librarian in Natick; and Laura Harrington, the high school librarian in North Andover. Independent reading and school libraries is a vast topic, connecting to many things we all do everyday, yet the culmination of Emily Hanford’s reporting into the Sold a Story podcast and Wayne D'Orio's recent SLJ article, which outlines the scope of the problem and how some libraries are responding, has put it back into the spotlight.
Media discussed:
Brian Selznick Wonderstruck Brian Selnick The Invention of Hugo Cabret Pam Smy, Thornhill Lincoln Peirce, Big Nate series Elizabeth Acevedo, The Poet X Jason Reynolds & Jason Griffin, Ain’t Burned all the Bright Jason Reynolds, Long Way Down Jason Reynolds & Danica Novgorodoff, Long Way Down: The Graphic Novel Laura's Article "Independent Reading: One Town's Process to Support Choice" Brenna Maloney, Buzzkill: A Wild Wander Through the Weird and Threatened World of Bugs Pierre Bayard, How to Talk About Books You Haven’t Read Deborah Moyer, The Readers’ Advisory HandbookLaura is Reading:
Carolyn Hays, A Girlhood: A Letter to My Transgender Daughter Book by Carolyn Hays Tracy Deonn, BloodmarkedNancy is reading:
Kwame Alexander, illus. by Dare Coulter, An American StorySarah is reading:
Rebecca Caprara, Worst-Case Collin Christina Lauren, The Honey-Don't List
“How can we build this culture every day:” Ariel Dagan and Vocational Media Literacy
Ariel Dagan asks his students: “What are you gonna access next?” as part of his lessons on mobile phone addictions, where he colalborates with the health department; and with gamifying discovery of the various career departments offered at Tri County Regional Vocational Technical High school in Franklin. He was awarded the first annual Carolyn Markuson School Library Innovation Grant Fund from the New England Library Association. Ariel talks about TC PRIDE and the school's motto, “Work Hard, Today Counts'; also his philosophy around collaboration and the role the various media available in the library has in that collaboration.
Tri-County Regional website and the media center’s Healthy You Libguide
Digital and Media Literacy: A white paper, by Renee Hobbs
NE Library Association and the Carolyn Markuson School Library Innovation Grant Fund
AASL National Conference, Salt Lake City, Utah, Oct. 21-23, 2021
Grit: the power and passion of perseverance, Angela Duckworth
24/6: The power of unplugging one day a week, Tiffany Shlain

MCTBA Minicast 5: Friendship
Suzanne Larson and Felicia O’Keefe discuss two other MA Teen choice Book Award nominees, books which rewire the heist genre and the self-help genre and teach us a lot about friendship.
Visit https://www.mateenchoicebook.org/ or email the 'cast at podcast@mascholibraries.org
Titles discussed:
The Girls I’ve Been by Tess Sharpe
Not My Problem by Ciara Smyth

“The space they deserve:” PA Shaw’s Summer Makespace
Morgan Keohane secured a maker space for her library at PA Shaw Elementary in Dorchester. Heart of America provided the grant and the volunteer-led upgrades went in this June. Before it happened, Morgan came on to discuss the grant process, how she plans to apply the new resources to her Guided Inquiry Design curriculum next year, and what the maker space means for a culturally responsive educational institution.
Heart of America on Facebook (check the photos)
Books Discussed:
The Promise of Access, Daniel Greene
The Wild Robot, Peter Brown
Violet the Pilot, by Steve Breen
The Girl With a Mind for Math: The Story of Raye Montague, by Julia Finley Mosca, illus. by Daniel Rieley
How to Code a Sandcastle, by Josh Funk
Tek the Modern Caveboy, by Patrick McDonnell
Doll-E 2.0, by Shanda McCloskey
Unplugged, by Steve Antony
Minx, HBO comedy
The Sopranos, HBO drama
Normal People, Sally Rooney

MCTBA Minicast 4: Social Justice
Titles Discussed:
Stamped: Racism, Antiracism and You, by Ibram X. Kendi & Jason Reynolds
Punching the Air, by Ibi Zoboi & Yusef Salaam

MTCBA Minicast 3: Culturally Responsive History
Ella and Westwood Public Library Teen Services Librarian Felicia O’Keefe discuss two culturally relevant, timely books dealing with the mid-20th century.
Visit https://www.mateenchoicebook.org/ or email the 'cast at podcast@mascholibraries.org
Titles Discussed:
Fallout: Spies, Superbombs, and the Ultimate Cold War Showdown, by Steve Sheinkin
We Are Not Free, by Traci Chee

MTCBA MiniCast 2: Family Culture
Our second installment of the MA Teen Choice Book Award hype: Reba talks Elizabteth Acevedo and Bonnie, Jennifer de Leon. The theme of this ep is family culture. Enjoy!
Titles Discussed:
Clap When You Land, by Elizabeth Acevedo
Don’t Ask Me Where I’m From, by Jennifer de Leon

“They Don’t Call It The Library”: On Decentralization
Colleen Simpson teaches at a decentralized library in the Lester J. Gates Middle School in Scituate. She wrote an article describing the layout and process of her day, but we dug further and discussed her involvement in the design and implementation of that space, through media literacy and research curricula. The sets of skills and hacks Colleen has gleaned from this decentralized space and responsibility get into areas of circulation, programming and administration.
The Gates Middle School 'Open Concept' Library on ScituateCommunityTV YouTube
Rem KoolHaus, Seattle, and the History of the Central Library
Audiobook Listening Copy (ACL) on Libro.fm
Last Night at the Telegraph Club, by Malinda Lo
I Am Not Your Perfect Mexican Daghter, by Erika Sánchez

MTCBA MiniCast 1: “Books like this can be such a lifeline…”
Episode one of our MA Teen Choice Book Award previews features Suzanne Larson, committee chair and Seekonk High School Librarian; Joanna Correa, Haverhill Public Library Youth Services Department Head; and Wendy MacArthur, a recent SLIS Grad. The theme is "LGBTQ kids figuring out who they are" and each episode (there will be NINE more!) will focus on a different theme. Listen up, put em’ hold, and encourage your students to VOTE.
Visit the MA Teen Choice Book Award Site here.
Titles Discussed:
Cemetery Boys, by Aiden Thomas
The Magic Fish, by Trung Le Nguyen
Flamer, by Mike Curato

The Patsy-Cast: A Conversation With a Legend!
Patsy Divver, Millis Middle School-High School Library Teacher, who was awarded the Judy Paradis Memorial Service Grant this year, talks about her beginnings in libraries, her philosophies and approach, and what she’s leaving behind for the students at her school. Anyone who has talked to Patsy knows she's a dedicated, empathetic colleague, and Ella and I had a good time talking with her.
Books mentioned:
Things You Save in a Fire: A Novel by Katherine Center
Out of My Mind, Out of My Heart, and Blended by Sharon Draper
Other Words for Home, Jasmine Warga
You Should See Me in a Crown Novel by Leah Johnson
With the Fire on High by Elizabeth Acevedo
Firekeeper's Daughter by Angeline Boulley
Fighting Words by Kimberly Brubaker Bradley
When You Trap a Tiger by Tae Keller
Genesis Begins Again by Alicia D. Williams
Harbor Me by Jacqueline Woodson
Unnatural Resources by Mindy Uhrlaub

Live at the MSLA Conference, 2022
with Rachel Bouhanda.

MASS Teen Choice Book Award
Suzanne Larsen (Seekonk High School Library Media Specialist) and Barb Fecteau (Barb) lay out the stakes of the newest game in town: the MA Teen Choice Book Award. Listen up for how to get involved and get excited about this new statewide program. The MTCBA book list will be unveiled at the conference at the end of this month! We have a great discussion about the ins and outs, what to expect as we roll into April with this program, and what perspectives the work on this committee have given them.
Sign up for the conference here RI Teen Book Award (Our own site is forthcoming) Ross Cannon's New Librarian Q&A (Ross is on the reading committee!) Val Diggs on Leveling Books Steve Sheinkin's newest book, Fallout Seriously... have you signed up for the conference yet?
“We’re the Only Us”: Year Two of the Virtual Conference
We talk to Alix Woznick, school librarian at Beverly Middle School, about her role as the chair of the conference committee. If you still haven't regiestered, here's the link:
https://whova.com/portal/registration/msla_202203/
We mentioned a bunch of different previews for conference events to get hyped. Here are a few:
Pablo Cartaya: https://www.pablocartaya.com/
KC Boyd: http://www.kcboyd.com/about-kc.html
Disabled Activists and online meetings: https://prismreports.org/2021/12/28/a-return-to-normal-threatens-gains-disabled-activists-made-in-expanding-accessibility-through-virtual-and-hybrid-events/
L’anomalie by Hervé Le Tellier (The Anomaly)
While I Was Away by Waka T. Brown

Discussing Dewey
MSLA's Jennifer Mason Stott, librarian at Graham & Parks School in Cambridge; Gillian Bartoo, a cataloger from CPS, and Maya Bery, librarian from Carlisle Public Schools join a conversation about the Dewey Decimal System.
Relevant links:
Maya's post on hacking: https://msberyslibrarysite.squarespace.com/writings/why-i-hacked-dewey-and-what-i-learned
METIS: https://schoollibrarycatologing.weebly.com/metis.html
Sex Education on Netflix: https://www.netflix.com/title/80197526
Dress Codes: How the Laws of Fashion Made History, by Richard Thompson Ford: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/54303114-dress-codes?ac=1&from_search=true&qid=CQkZeLWwJ8&rank=5
Finding Junie Kim, Ellen Oh: https://www.netflix.com/title/80197526

Climate Prep Week
In sharing our conversation with Gardner, Ella and I hope to dispel some of the anxiety you might be feeling about... well... climate anxiety. But also, anxiety about scheduling something around Climate Preparedness Week, which runs annually from Sept. 24th to 30th. Gardner is a tireless advocate for this issue, and she discusses resources, programming ideas, and how climate change is, for some, still discussed as an abstract concept. With her students at Dartmouth Middle School, Gardner uses the curriculum to move past concepts into action and service.
Initiatives discussed:
CREW and Climate Prep Week, https://www.climatecrew.org/climate_prep_week_2021 Climate Reality, https://www.climaterealitysouthcoast.com/ 10 Questions for Young Changemakers, the Democratic Knowledge Project, https://yppactionframe.fas.harvard.edu/home Climate Cafes, https://climatecafes.org/ Break Free from Plastic, https://www.breakfreefromplastic.org/ Sunrise Movement, https://www.sunrisemovement.org/ Cli-Fi, https://www.science.smith.edu/climatelit/cli-fi/ “State AG settles with New Bedford bus company over allegations of excessive idling at schools” https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/state-ag-settles-with-new-bedford-bus-company-over-allegations-of-excessive-idling-at-schools/ar-AAOg7t2Books discussed:
How to Change Everything: A Young Human's Guide to Protecting the Planet and Each Other, Naomi Klein Tracking Trash: Flotsam, Jetsam, and the Science of Ocean Motion (Scientists in the Field Series), Loree Griffin Burns The Wisdom of Tress, Lita Judge One Small Hop, Madelyn Rosenberg Life As We Knew It, Susan Beth Pfeffer Dry by Neal Shusterman, Jarrod Shusterman The Marrow Thieves, Cherie Dimaline Ashfall, Mike Mullin Good Neighbors, Sarah Langan Lights out in Lincoln Woods, Geoff Rodkey The Dispossessed, Ursula K. Le Guin Octavia Butler
Getting Graphic with Liza
Liza Halley is Library Teacher at Plympton Elementary School in Waltham, MA, who not only believes graphic novels are great-- but essential. In collaboration with Plympton Elementary’s visual art teachers, Liza is developing an “Art of the Comic'' class. Join us for a conversation about how literacy is-- crucially-- more than just about words on the page.
Liza on Twitter: @LizaLitDiva
Liza on Insta: lizahalley08
Media discussed:
Shirley and Jamila Save Their Summer by Gillian Goerz Go with the Flow by Lily Williams, Karen Schneemann Understanding Comics by Scott McCloud When Stars Are Scattered by Victoria Jamieson and Omar Mohamed Run: Book One (Run #1) by John Lewis, Andrew Aydin, Nate Powell, L. Fury Beowulf by Santiago García, David Rubín, Javier Olivares The Tempest by William Shakespeare Erin Hunter’s Warriors series adaptations of Clifford the Big Red Dog and The Magic Treehouse Wrinkle in Time: The Graphic Novel by Margarita Engle Gareth Hinds The Flintstones by Mark Russell Howard the Duck by Chip Zdarsky Naruto by Masashi Kishimoto Yotsuba by Kiyohiko Azuma Yuzu the Pet Vet by Mingo Ito Under the Cottonwood Tree: El Susto de la Curandera by Paul Meyer, Carlos Meyer, Margaret Hardy Factory Summers by Guy DeLisle Vanni: A Family's Struggle Through the Sri Lankan Conflict by Benjamin Dix, Lindsay Pollock Agatha Christie's Poirot (ITV show) One Last Stop by Casey McQuiston How the Word is Passed by Clint Hill The Runaway Princess by Johan Troïanowski Pity Party by Kathleen Lane
Hey Barb.
In this episode, we talk to Barb Fecteau, librarian at Beverly High School. Barb is Barb. She wrote a great column in the last forum issue about one of her favorite subjects, Fun (https://www.maschoolibraries.org/newsletter/conference-fun-committee). Ella and I had fun talking to her, too.
Mentioned texts and hubub:
A Tree Grows in Brooklyn, by Betty Smith
Are You My Mother? by PD Eastman
Almost American Girl, Robin Ha

In Conversation: MSLA President Elect Jen Varney
For our debut episode, we invite MSLA President Elect Jen Varney for a conversation about her start in cataloging and academic librarianship and her move to schools in and around Boston. Jen's term begins in July. She charts her involvement in MSLA and plans for the future of the organization.
Episode resources:
Massachusetts School Library Study: Equity and Access for Students in the Commonwealth
School Libraries Are the Bedrock of Freedom from Publisher's Weekly, May 07, 2021
Jen's email: jvarney@mascholibraries.org
Cambridge PS Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/cps.schools
Podcast email: podcast@maschoolibraries.org