
Our Navy Life
By Naval Services FamilyLine

Our Navy LifeNov 28, 2023

S3 E4 Navigating TRICARE
Navigating TRICARE
Zelly Zim is a Health System Specialist in the Policy & Program Section for TRICARE Health Plan, Defense Health Agency. Her primary role is as the senior analyst for the TRICARE Select program. She serves as a subject matter expert, which involves the promulgation of federal statutes into Regulation and Policy for the Department of Defense’s 9.6 million healthcare beneficiaries.
Links from Zelly :
https://www.tricare.mil/Plans/Enroll/OpenSeason
https://www.tricare.mil/Plans/HealthPlans
https://www.tricare.mil/LifeEvents/QLE
https://www.tricare.mil/FAQs/General/GEN_TOL_GENESIS
https://www.tricare.mil/GettingCare
https://www.tricare.mil/subscriptions
https://www.tricare.mil/publications
https://tricare.mil/CoveredServices/Mental
Episode Take-Aways:
● Despite its challenges, TRICARE is one of the premier health benefit networks in the nation -- it is an immeasurable benefit we receive as military families.
● What are the basic TRICARE terms and dates every military family should know?
● How does care/coverage change if you receive OCONUS orders?
● If a family is experiencing sub-par care, how can they advocate for themselves?
● What are the big takeaways Navy families should know with the transition to the Genesis
system that is taking place throughout the fleet?
Let’s Connect:

S3 E3 Stories of Resileince: Mrs. Annie Rae Payne
Stories of Resilience: Mrs. Annie Rae Payne
Annie Rae Payne is a Navy Veteran who previously worked for the state of Washington as the Education Coordinator at a state-funded early childhood education and assistance program. She is the Life Skills and Family Advocacy Program Educator at the Fleet and Family Support Center at NAS Whidbey Island. In addition to being the NASWI Ombudsman Coordinator, she has been an Ombudsman for 13 years and is presently appointed to the World Famous Rooks of VAQ-137.
She and her husband, Eric, are about to embark on their 15th deployment together. Eric and Annie share three children, a son and daughter-in-law, two Grandchildren, and their German Shepherd Harley. Annie enjoys reading, camping, game nights, and entertaining in her free time.
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Show Takeaways:
Ask yourself Annie's big question:
How can I help someone feel safe and seen?
- Inclusion means creating connections, building relationships, and supporting others to do the same.
- To be inclusive in this Navy life means including those outside of the Navy to support our families.
- Values of diversity and inclusion ultimately benefit everyone.
- It sometimes takes grit to ensure inclusive programs persist amidst financial, institutional, and other challenges.
Let’s Connect:

S3 E2 Stories of Resilience: Dr. Rosie Ortiz-Torres
Stories of Resilience: Dr. Rosie Ortiz-Torres
Dr. Rosie Ortiz-Torres obtained her Doctoral degree while also living overseas the last 10 years, raising two teenagers, navigating deployments and volunteering with the military community as well. She’ll share her personal experience in leaving active duty and leveraging resources such as the Red Cross, Fleet and Family Support Centers and the Navy Marine Corp Relief Society.
Show Links:
- https://www.nsfamilyline.org/compass
- https://www.redcross.org/volunteer/become-a-volunteer.html
- https://www.nmcrs.org/
- https://ffr.cnic.navy.mil/Family-Readiness/Fleet-And-Family-Support-Program/
Show Takeaways:
Ask yourself Dr. Rosie's big question--Why not?
● Spouses’ dreams and goals are important too
● Be gentle and respectful with yourself in meeting those goals and aspirations
● Use all of the Navy and military resources to your full advantage.
● Use volunteering to help clarify goals
Let’s Connect:

S3 E1 Stories of Resilience: Meg Graves
Stories of Resilience: Meg Graves
As a proud Navy military wife of 12 years, Meg is no stranger to the hardships of being married in the military. Their three children, two of whom are EFM, and her own EFM status as a Breast Cancer survivor have given her first-hand experience in advocating for their unique needs. Breast cancer has taught her that we all have our own version of hard. She has empowered, led, and encouraged other military families as their needs and families grow and change. Her role as a Navy ombudsman (& Air Force key spouse) at joint commands has given her insights into how EFMP differs between service branches.
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Show Takeaways:
Meg embodies FamilyLine’s core value of Compassion with GRIT. Specifically, Meg highlights the G of GRIT with the importance of being genuine in all circumstances.
As an advocate for your children, being genuine is a strength that brings clarity and purpose to the daily grind.
As an advocate for your personal health journey, living in a genuine manner emboldens you to face your own version of hard.
As a Navy spouse, exemplifying a genuine nature helps you meet the challenges of navigating this military lifestyle.
Let’s Connect:

S2 E10 Honoring Pride Month: Live Your Navy Life Authentically and With Pride!
Honoring Pride Month: Live Your Navy Life Authentically and With Pride!
In honor of Pride Month, today’s episode chats with Ashley and Julie Harper. Julie and Ashley are a same-sex couple married for 6 years, both from Jacksonville, FL. Julie serves on Active Duty in the Navy and Ashley works full time at the Naval Academy. They welcomed their first child, Avery, in April this year. Ashley and Julie’s journey as a gay Navy family is not unlike that of other Navy families. In this interview, we talk about how to be more inclusive of our LGBTQ+ Navy families, demonstrate allyship, and how we can encourage others to live their Navy life authentically.
Show Links:
Statement by Secretary of Defense Lloyd J. Austin III on Pride Month
PRIDE in All Who Serve: Statement by Secretary of the Navy, Carlos Del Toro
DoD Pride: The DoD Association of Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender Employees and Allies
Show Takeaways:
The Navy spouse community is rich with diverse backgrounds, experiences, and likes/dislikes.
We can all work to uplift, encourage, and highlight that diversity.
Navy spouses can be their authentic selves while also supporting the Navy family community.
The use of language, such as “spouse” instead of “wife or husband,” demonstrates inclusivity of all Navy families.
Save judgment and assumptions until you have the opportunity to get to know someone beyond an initial introduction.
Let’s Connect:

S2 E9 Navigating the Exceptional Family Member Program: A Spouse’s Journey to Advocate for Her Daughter and Other Navy Families
Navigating the Exceptional Family Member Program: A Spouse’s Journey to Advocate for Her Daughter and Other Navy Families
The Exceptional Family Member Program (EFMP) can often be overwhelming and challenging to navigate. Join us for today’s episode as we chat with Michelle Norman, mother of a 19-year-old daughter with cerebral palsy and 21 other disabilities. After years of successfully advocating and winning multiple legal cases to ensure her daughter receives the minimum education required by law, she was contacted by military families across the country dealing with similar problems in public schools. Out of her passion for advocating, she launched Partners in PROMISE to ensure no other military family had to experience what they did so that their family could receive the support it needed.
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Show Takeaways:
There is no bigger advocate for your family than you.
The Exceptional Family Member Program can be a challenging system that many Navy families struggle to understand.
Partners in PROMISE can help you navigate the system and advocate for the best resources for you and your family.
Supporting EFMP families can simply be showing up with a listening ear, a non judgemental attitude and a willingness to help where needed.
Let’s Connect:

S2 E8 Military Spouse Appreciation: Living the Navy Life as Colorfully as You Can with Katie Kortman
One of our missions with “Our Navy Life” is to share the incredible stories of what Navy spouses are doing in their communities and how they’re choosing to live this Navy life. In honor of Military Spouse Appreciation Month, today’s episode is a conversation with Katie Kortman, Navy spouse and mother of four kids. Katie is a fashion and textile designer, painter, teacher, and dancing queen. In 2021, Katie was a designer on season 19 of Bravo’s Project Runway. Today, she lives with her husband, a Navy obstetrician and gynecologist, and their four children and they are stationed in Yokosuka, Japan.
Show Links:
@katiekortmanart
@katiekortmanclothing
Show Takeaways:
Spouses have dreams and goals too and flexing to accomplish those while living the Navy life often looks different.
Building community is a vital element to Navy life and can help us achieve the things we set out to do.
Sometimes you need to pour into the Navy spouse community in order to have the community pour into you.
Let’s Connect:

S2 E7 Mental Toughness: On the brink of a breakdown (Heidi Dindial)
Mental Toughness
DISCLAIMER: The next three episodes are part of a series on Mental Toughness and the discussions will share very vulnerable stories and resources about suicide. If hearing about and discussing suicide is triggering, we encourage you to come back and listen at a time that is right for you. Talking about suicide doesn’t lead to suicide, but we know that people are scared to talk about it.
May is Mental Health Awareness Month and Our Navy Life is digging in to talk about suicide, suicide prevention, and how we can support our service members, spouses, and children as we navigate the challenges of Navy life. Today’s episode is a discussion with Heidi Dindial, whose family’s story is the epitome of how the stress and challenges of Navy life can impact our service members and their families. There are some issues with the audio quality in this episode, but we promise that if you stick with us through the end, you’ll be grateful for Heidi’s vulnerability and sharing her story.
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Show Takeaways:
When your Sailor can’t advocate for him/herself, YOU (the spouse) are your his/her biggest advocate.
Navy life is HARD! Be sure to check in with your Sailor during those stressful times. Compartmentalizing the stress and challenges takes its toll.
Support can be found in leadership, Fleet and Family Support Center, MWR, Chaplain, and medical.
Ask, Care, Treat: This has been taught to Sailors for the past 5 years. It’s simple, ASK the person if they’re thinking of suicide. Listen and CARE. You don’t have to be a professional, just care. And lastly, TREAT, take them to a professional or chaplain who can continue helping.
Let’s Connect:

S2 E6 Mental Toughness: Navigating the mental health crisis in the Navy (Featuring Lt Dale Hirsch)
Mental Toughness: Navigating the mental health crisis in the Navy (Lt Dale Hirsch)
Mental Toughness
DISCLAIMER: The next three episodes are part of a series on Mental Toughness and the discussions will share very vulnerable stories and resources about suicide. If hearing about and discussing suicide is triggering, we encourage you to come back and listen at a time that is right for you. Talking about suicide doesn’t lead to suicide, but we know that people are scared to talk about it.
May is Mental Health Awareness Month and Our Navy Life is digging in to talk about suicide, suicide prevention, and how we can support our service members, spouses, and children as we navigate the challenges of Navy life. Today’s episode is a discussion with Lt Dale Hirsch, a Research Psychologist of the Navy Leadership and Ethics Center to discuss more about the mental health crisis in the Navy and how we can work towards developing mentally tough sailors and families. As a disclaimer, the thoughts, opinions and ideas discussed in this episode are solely from the purview of Lt Hirsch and not of the Department of Defense.
Show Links:
Show Takeaways:
One of the most protective factors in suicide prevention is connectedness.
Mental health is almost too de-stigmatized.
Toughness is what the Navy is working towards to create resilient Sailors and families. Many people seek specialty care when they are really in need of a friend, mentor, or non-medical counseling.
Support can be found in leadership, Fleet and Family Support Center, MWR, Chaplain, and medical.
Ask, Care, Treat: This has been taught to Sailors for the past 5 years. It’s simple, ASK the person if they’re thinking of suicide. Listen and CARE. You don’t have to be a professional, just care. And lastly, TREAT, take them to a professional or chaplain who can continue helping.
Let’s Connect:

S2 E5 Mental Toughness: When there are no warning signs
Season 2 Episode 5 Mental Toughness: When there are no warning signs
DISCLAIMER: The next three episodes are part of a series on Mental Toughness and the discussions will share very vulnerable stories and resources about suicide. If hearing about and discussing suicide is triggering, we encourage you to come back and listen at a time that is right for you. Talking about suicide doesn’t lead to suicide, but we know that people are scared to talk about it.
May is Mental Health Awareness Month and Our Navy Life is digging in to talk about suicide, suicide prevention, and how we can support our service members, spouses, and children as we navigate the challenges of Navy life. Our first episode in this series chats with Shelly Bohner, Navy spouse of 29 years and a mother surviving the loss of her only son to suicide. Her story is vulnerable and compelling and we are honored to share it so that others may find solace in it and learn from it.
Show Links:
https://www.franciscanmedia.org/franciscan-spirit-blog/7-things-to-know-about-suicide/
https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/08/health/suicide-no-signs-grief/index.html
Show Takeaways:
Suicide can sometimes occur without indicating any warning signs.
Friends and family close to someone who commits suicide increase their chances of committing suicide.
The Navy family and community provides an incredible network of those who showed up to be with the Bohners during the darkest time in their family’s life.
Support for dealing with suicide can be found Fleet and Family Support Center, MWR, Chaplain, and medical.
If you are impacted by someone close you committing suicide, please seek help.
Let’s Connect:

S2 E4 Purple Up! Celebrating Military-Connected Youth
Purple Up! Celebrating Military-Connected Youth
Ahsha Bass, 2022-2023 National Military Youth of the Year
Ahsha Bass (@elisabeth.bass03) • Instagram photos and videos
Look out for Chat with Asha B on Spotify– coming soon!
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Show Takeaways:
Who are military kids and how many of them are there?
Why is it important to celebrate Month of the Military Child and military children?
What goodness do military kids bring to their schools and communities?
What challenges do our military kids face?
How can parents, families, friends, and the community support Navy children?
Let’s Connect:

S2 E3 Happy Birthday Chiefs!
Happy Birthday Chiefs!
Today’s discussion dives into what it means to be a Chief Petty Officer and how that impacts Navy families.
Crystal Bennet is an educator, an advocate, a survivor and a self-proclaimed thriver! For the past 25 years she has been driven by her personal experiences of trauma to elevate and amplify the voices of individuals and communities in order to promote healing and opportunities to move from surviving to thriving.
As a mother to four children and a Navy spouse she has had to exhibit great flexibility but has also learned the importance of taking control in order to create the path that allows herself and her family to thrive.
Mike Stevens is currently serving as the Chief Executive Officer for the Navy League of the United States. He retired from the U.S. Navy in September 2016 after serving as the 13th Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy.
Show Links:
Show Takeaways:
Why are Chiefs an important part of Navy culture
What does it take to be a Chief?
How can spouses support their Chiefs?
Navy League is a massive supporter of Navy families
Let’s Connect:

S2 E2 Get to Know Sergio and Kaleisha!
Get to Know Sergio and Kaleisha!
Sergio Rodriguez, Host of Naval Services FamilyLine “Our Navy Life”, Housing Advocate, Volunteer, 2022 Navy Spouse of The Year
Kaleisha Hatchin, Co-host of Naval Services FamilyLine “Our Navy Life” Podcast, entrepreneur and 9 year military spouse.
Show Links:
- NSFL Website
- COMPASS
- Naval Services FamilyLine Facebook
- NsfamilyLine Instagram
- Please contact Jennifer Kiser, our volunteer manager, if you are interested in volunteering with FamilyLine volunteer manager@nsfamilyline.org
Show Takeaways:
- Which community are they part of?
- What was their favorite duty station?
- Learn the hardest moments Sergio and Kaleisha have had in Our Navy Life
- Find out why they said yes to being your hosts!
Let’s Connect:

S2 E1 Welcome to FamilyLine!
Welcome to FamilyLine! Today's guest is Beth Weber, the chairman of Naval Services FamilyLine. Beth Weber is an entrusted leader & mentor who strives to impact the personal & professional journeys of others. You can contact Beth Weber, Naval Services FamilyLine Chairman, at chairman@nsfamilyline.org
Show Links:
- NSFL Website
- Anchors Aweigh
- COMPASS
- CORE
- Naval Spouse Leadership Courses
- Publications
- Naval Services FamilyLine Facebook
- NsfamilyLine Instagram
- Mustang Spouse Symposium on Youtube
- Please contact Jennifer Kiser, our volunteer manager, if you are interested in volunteering with FamilyLine volunteermanager@nsfamilyline.org
- Check out the Navy's MyNavyFamilyApp Over 300,000 downloads last year. Great for spouses, parents, family members, girlfriends, and boyfriends.
Show Takeaways:
- Learn the history of Naval Services FamilyLine
- FamilyLine is here for your transitions wherever you are in the world or your sailor's career
- Volunteers are the backbone of FamilyLine (Send an email to: volunteermanager@nsfamilyline.org)
Let’s Connect:

S1 E8 Spouse Interview: Chat with Mrs. Evelyn Honea, wife of Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy (MCPON)
Show Notes: Join host, Sergio Rodriguez, and co-host, Cherry King, as they chat with Mrs. Evelyn Honea, wife of the Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy. In this discussion, Evelyn shares her experiences as an entrepreneur and Navy spouse, while maintaining her own identity as an involved spouse and parent.
Show Links:
- MySECO
- Military Spouse Entrepreneur Guide
- Naval Services FamilyLine Compass
- Naval Services FamilyLine CORE
Show Takeaways:
- Get plugged into your community to feel settled in new duty stations.
- Lean into service opportunities that align with your passions.
Let’s Connect:

S1 E7 Spouse Interview: Hot Topic: Housing for Navy Families
Welcome back to the show! Today we are talking about a very important topic for all military families: Housing. Host Sergio Rodriguez and co-host Abigail McCracken, the 2022 Armed Forces Insurance Coast Guard Spouse of the Year, are joined by our guest Kate Needham, who co-founded the nonprofit, Armed Forces Housing Advocates in 2021. Kate has been on the front lines fighting for military families to have clean and safe homes.
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Show Takeaways:
- Listen in to hear some ways to advocate for yourself and your family when it comes to Military Housing
- Hear Kate’s tips for protecting yourself when looking for housing
- Understand your rights as a military family
Let’s Connect:

S1 E6 Spouse Interview: Military Life: Navigating the Holidays during a Deployment
It’s not uncommon for a Navy family to go through the holiday season with a deployed Service member. Join host, Sergio Rodriguez, and co-host Kaleshia Hatchin, as they chat with Brenda Spencer. Brenda is a volunteer navy spouse, a mother, and also a veteran. Hear Brenda’s tips to get through the holidays by creating traditions and doing what works best for you and your family.
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Show Takeaways:
- Recognize when it’s important to you to celebrate a holiday and how you will celebrate it.
- How to take advantage of resources that your community offers.
- Lean into your community to develop new holiday traditions and memories.
- Connect with your Navy family community through Naval Services FamilyLine: Compass and CORE.
Let’s Connect:

S1 E5 Veterans Day: Chat with Navy spouses who have served
Welcome back to Our Navy Life, today’s episode is a very special episode because we are honoring the stories of our Navy spouses who are also veterans. In this episode, we have several wonderful guests to chat with us about their time serving. We are better together, and the rich experiences that Veterans bring to our community only make us that much better and stronger as a Navy family community.
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Show Takeaways:
Listen in as we hear from several veterans and current military spouses as they share:
- Why they joined the military
- Their decision to get out and how they made that decision
- Their transition from active duty to supporting their spouse still on active duty
Let’s Connect:

S1 E4 Spouse Interview: Military Life: Managing the emotional cycle of deployment
Join host, Sergio Rodriguez, and co-host, Kaleshia Hatchin, as they chat with Samantha Hatch, Navy Reserve chaplain and Navy spouse about the emotional cycle of deployment. As Navy families, we endure deployments as a regular part of our lifestyle. But just because we experience them frequently doesn’t mean we are deployment experts. As Sam explains, each deployment is different and knowing where you are in the cycle is important to better understand and support yourselves and your family.
Show Takeaways:
- Communication is key before, during, and after deployment.
- Lean on the resources in your community (FRG, ombudsman, spouse groups) in times of need.
- Find your local Naval Services FamilyLine chapter and register for the next Compass session.
Let’s Connect:

S1 E3 Spouse Interview: Chat with Mrs. Linda Gilday, wife of Chief of Naval Operations
Join host, Sergio Rodriguez, and co-host, Ali Maruca, as they chat with the spouse of the Chief of Naval Operations, Mrs. Linda Gilday. From military spouse employment to managing dual careers to how to lean on your village, Mrs. Gilday talks about her experience as a Navy spouse and how integral the Navy family community is in supporting one another.
Show Takeaways:
- Managing a career as a military spouse
- Surviving and thriving in a dual-career military household
- Supporting fellow Navy spouses and families
Let’s Connect:

S1 E2 Spouse Interview: Hot Topic: Food Insecurity Among Navy Families
With rising costs of living across the nation and around the world, the challenges of military spouse employment and childcare, and the unanticipated challenges of military life, it’s no surprise that food insecurity is on the rise among Navy families. Join host Sergio Rodriguez, and co-host Ali Maruca, as they chat with Delia Johnson, program director of the Combat Hunger initiative with the Military Family Advisory Network. You’ll also hear from guest Cat Gehry, Navy Veteran and spouse, and mother of four, and her experience to struggle to put food on the table for her family.
Show Links:
- White House Conference on Hunger, Nutrition, and Health
- MILITARY LEADERS ECONOMIC SECURITY TOOLKIT
- Strengthening Food Security in the Force: Strategy and Roadmap
- Combat Military Hunger
- MFAN 2021 Report: Military Family Support Programming Survey Results
- MFAN Food Assistance
Show Takeaways:
- Food insecurity is a growing concern among Navy families
- Asking for help/support does not negatively impact a service member’s career
- If you think you are experiencing food insecurity, contact your local Fleet and Family Support Center to inquire about assistance programs in your area
Let’s Connect:

S1 E1 Healthy Communication with Your Sailor: Tips from Dr. Lindsay
Dr. Lindsay Cavanagh is a military spouse and psychologist who serves military families as a Military Marriage Coach. With her podcast, Married to the Military, and her unique coaching platform, she works with spouses and service members to improve communication techniques and takes into account the unique challenges of the military lifestyle. This episode with host Sergio Rodriguez and co-host Christy Thomas dives into healthy communication techniques that can help military members and their spouses thrive.
Show Links:
- www.lindsaycavanagh.com
- www.instagram.com/marriedtomilitary
- Free call: https://marriedtomilitary.satoriapp.com/offers/236651-military-marriage-breakthrough-call
- Listen to Christy's Show: Keep Calm and Mother On!
Show Takeaways:
- Discuss the challenges in the military environment that can be a communication barrier.
- Establish communication expectations between the service member and spouse.
- Talking about communication doesn’t mean there’s a problem. It sets the military member and spouse up for future success.
Let’s Connect:

Welcome to Our Navy Life Podcast
Our journey as a Navy family can be exciting and fulfilling. It can also be confusing and stressful.
For all your challenges and triumphs — from how to thrive during deployments to navigating Tricare — Naval Services FamilyLine has been your go-to resource since 1965. If you're living the Navy Life, this podcast is for you.
Join us as we discuss ways to navigate this Navy life together and define what it means to be a modern Navy family. In each episode, we’ll explore topics intended to help you on your Navy journey. Whether we dive into Navy life, great resources, or connecting with Navy spouses, there’s something here for everyone. No matter if you’re just starting out, at the halfway point, or approaching the end, we know one thing is certain: we are better together. Come along for the ride.