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ClimateGenn hosted by Nick BreezeSep 17, 2023
Dr Kaitlin Naughten - Antarctic Ice sheet Loss Acceleration - British Antarctic Survey
In this ClimateGenn episode I am speaking with Dr Kaitlin Naughten from the British Antarctic Survey about her new research looking at the unavoidable sea-level rise from west Antarctica.
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Although ending fossil fuels is still the main course to pursue, no amount of emissions reduction this century, can slow the melt of this region of Antarctica. We discuss the implications, such as abandoning coastal areas, as well as learning to accept and respond to the growing climate migrant crisis. We also discuss the psychological toll of processing this kind of scientific findings.In the next episode I will be speaking with author and psychoanalyst, Sally Weintrobe about her latest work.As policymakers meet in Dubai for the preCOP discussions, it is with great sadness that we note the death of Professor Saleemul Huq on the 28th October. Saleem has been a huge source of insight for my work over the last decade, giving me many interviews that provide the much needed perspective of the vulnerable nations in the global south. As mentioned before, my own book COPOUT is available for preorder and I am pleased to say that Saleem’s wise words inform the narrative, threading the way from Paris to this years COP in the UAE.Thank you to all Youtube and Patreon subscribers for supporting the channel - with ever more aspects to the climate and ecological crisis emerging, your support makes it a difference.
Professor Kevin Anderson - Climate Failures and Phantasies ahead of COP28
In this full climategenn episode I am speaking with Professor Kevin Anderson from the Universities of Manchester and Uppsala about how journalists and experts have failed the public by an over dependence on reductionist thinking, as opposed to systems thinking, much needed to avert disaster. [PREORDER: MY BOOK ‘COPOUT - HOW GOVERNMENTS HAVE FAILED THE PEOPLE ON CLIMATE’ (AD LIB BOOKS) IS AVAILABLE FOR PREORDER - https://copout.genn.cc ] Instead of making the space for envisioning a better world, perpetrators of the status quo instead construct fantasies as a way to deflect criticism and delay real action.
The Great Barrier Reef ahead of this summer - multi-year bleaching & the future- Prof. Terry Hughes
In this Climategenn episode I speak with Professor Terry Hughes, Director of the Australian Research Council (ARC) based at John Cook University in Australia. Join via Patreon (https://patreon.com/genncc) or Youtube to get access to full episodes weeks early. Full episode contents: 1. The role of coral reefs 2. State of reefs in the worlds oceans 3. Is it "game over" for the oceans? 4. Can reefs bounce back from multiyear bleaching events? 5. Australian government: climate rhetoric v's action 6. Should we try to intervene to save the reefs with geoengineering?
UN University Report on Risk Tipping Points, 'Interconnected Disaster Risks' with Dr Jack O'Connor
In this climateGenn episode I am speaking with Dr Jack O’Connor, at the UN University’s Institute for Environment and Human Security. Jack is the author of the Interconnected Disaster Risks Report that is looking at tipping points impacting human security and the Earth System. These so-called Risk Tipping Points are showing signs of tipping and in this interview we discuss how humanity can respond.
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The report is available for download below, as well as a link to the main website with detailed insights into a number of Risk Tipping Points.
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Dr Euan Nisbet - Methane: Wetlands are “turning on” - a feedback effect to human induced climate heating causing a Termination event.
1. Comparisons between methane and carbon dioxide in the atmosphere.
2. Working out the methane budget.
3. Atmosphere getting richer in Carbon 13 isotope from fossil fuel industry.
4. Something happened in 2006 as Carbon 12 started to rise.
5. Rising methane from biological sources.
6. Regional increases are spiking.
7. Different types of biological sources.
8. Feedbacks switching on.
9. Wetlands are “turning on”.
10. Historic precedent: “huge rapid change”
11. Events known as a “Terminations”
12. A rapidly changing planet.
13. Should we use geoengineering?
Is the COP process set up to fail? Joe Romm Interview PT3 - dodgy offsets, double accounting
In part 3 with Joe, we discuss how dodgy offsets and double accounting feed into COP28 and ask the question - is the COP process set-up to fail? A link to Joe’s in-depth paper on all of this is in the notes.To get full episodes much earlier, join via Youtube or Patreon: https://patreon.com/genncc
Link to Joe's paper on offsets: https://bpb-us-w2.wpmucdn.com/web.sas.upenn.edu/dist/0/896/files/2023/06/OffsetPaper7.0-6-27-23-FINAL2.pdf
Part 3 Content Guide
1. With so many nations trying to defraud the Paris Agreement carbon accounting mechanism, will we ever achieve our goals?
2. Denmark, the oil company and Microsoft - blending the real with the fake offsets for cash.3. UNFCCC Jargon: Authorised offsets, corresponding adjustments… agreed but not compulsory.
3. Where are the positives in all this?
4. Is the COP set-up to fail?
Dr Joe Romm Pt 2 - Double Accounting & Climate Colonialism
In Part 2, with Dr Joe Romm, we discuss how offsetting impacts the NDC accounting systems that underpin the Paris Agreement and expose much less well off countries to yet another form of what Joe calls Climate Imperialism
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Link to Joe Romm's paper on offsets: https://bpb-us-w2.wpmucdn.com/web.sas.upenn.edu/dist/0/896/files/2023/06/OffsetPaper7.0-6-27-23-FINAL2.pdf
In part 3 with Joe, we discuss how dodgy offsets and double accounting feed into COP28 and ask the question - is the COP process set-up to fail? A link to Joe’s in-depth paper on all of this is in the notes.
1. Switching from the voluntary market to the “compliance market”.
2. Defining emissions double accounting.
3. Who gets to count the emissions reduction and why.
4. Paris Agreement did not solve this issue.
5. Two solutions (aside from banning offsets): ‘Mitigation contributions’ and ‘corresponding adjustment’ (an authorised offset).
6. How authorised offsets backfire on developing nations.
7. COP26 made is easier for developed countries to skim off cheap emissions from developing nations who will have to pay later.
8. Climate colonialism or imperialism if the phoney (unregulated) offset price is used.
9. The price of offsets will rise.
10. Don’t believe the lies of abundant cheap emissions reduction.
11. They are cheap because they are meaningless.
12. Switzerland buying up cheap carbon offsets to pretend they are making an effort.
13. Don’t be a bad faith actor in good faith market.
14. It doesn’t cut $2 a tonne to go to zero!
Dr Joe Romm: Dodgy Offsets, Double Accounting plus why solving climate is not a $2 a tonne problem.
Contents - Part 1 (of 3):
Download Joes Paper here.
1 - A license to pollute
2 - Offsets relationship to “net zero”
3 - “Carbon neutral” claims = greenwash
4 - Pay to pollute
5 - 94% of offsets are worthless
6 - Quantifying deforestation is tricky
7 - 2 types of lawsuit
8 - Disputing claims of carbon neutrality
9 - Unregulated markets
10 - Solving the climate problem for a few bucks a tonne (?)
11 - European Carbon Trading System
12 - Unregulated Markets
In this first of three part interview with Dr Joe Romm, we discuss how dodgy off-sets and double accounting are plaguing climate progress at a time when the world urgently needs to get serious about climate change.
Joe Romm was the acting assistant secretary for energy efficiency and renewables in the US Department of Energy, back in the 1990’s and also the founder of the now ceased Climate Progress blog. Today Joe is a senior research fellow at the University of Pennsylvania Centre for Science, Sustainability and Media.
Part 1 focuses on the how offsets are misused by big brand names and nations in unregulated markets to peddle lies to the public.
In Part 2 we discuss how this impacts the NDC accounting systems that underpin the Paris Agreement and expose much less well off countries to yet another form of what Joe calls Climate Imperialism.
In Part 3 we discuss how COP28 does not bode well having an oil boss as the president and how all these strands come together to reinforce the notion that the UNFCCC process is set-up to fail.
Professor Jason Box - Atmospheric River Rapids + why next year will be worse
- What are atmospheric river rapids?
- what do these teach us about extreme deluge events around the world that we are seeing now?
- What is driving it?
- Why next year will be worse
- What do we have to do?
Summary Version: A Treaty To End Fossil Fuels - Tzeporah Berman Interview Summary with Nick Breeze
A fossil fuel non-proliferation treaty is exactly what is needed to switch off the fossil fuel pipelines that are driving crazily hot temperatures, flash flooding, and droughts that directly threaten the global food production system.
In this ClimateGenn episode I speak with the Chair of the Fossil Fuel Non-Proliferation Treaty, Tzepora Berman. Tzepora and her colleagues are designing the framework by which we can begin to switch off the fossil fuel supply that is the root cause of what is a real-time climate emergency.
Dr Julia Steinberger - The Hour Before Dawn Is Always The Darkest
Episode full contents:
1. Fossil fuel companies were never a partner is solving climate change.
2. The possible world that we see emerging around us.
3. How do we face the strength of the fossil fuel industry?
4. COP28 is symbolic of political failure.
5. Fossil fuel companies are trying to take over key structural processes.
6. We must all use our collective agency.
7. The Energy Charter Treaty (ETC), and why it must be ended.
8. The fossil fuel industry is fragile; don’t be duped into inaction.
9. There is another world we can create from this.
10. Become the mainstream by better articulating the mission.
Dr Alice Hill: The Insurance industry is the retreating canary in the CLIMATE coal mine
Full 25 min version: [members link: https://youtu.be/NSdk6BwsSQA or https://genn.cc/dr-alice-hill-insurance/ ] Welcome to the ClimateGenn podcast. This summary version is edited from the full interview. Included are the key points from the discussion and the full version can be accessed by all Youtube and Patreon members. Overview of topics covered: US politicians debate the causes of extreme weather, stymying effective longterm policy. “California is the 4th largest insurance market in the world… so to pull out of that is big news!” State run back-up plan - but back-up plans are ballooning as concentrated risk discourages insurers. Extensive wildfires in 2017 and 2018 wiped out quarter of a century (25yrs) of profits in California. Insurers in California are not allowed to use models that account for the growing risk of climate change. Insurance policies evaluate 1 year of risk but climate is a long-term issue. AXA: At some point the world becomes uninsurable with climate change. Can the risk be spread across the nation? How do we build national resilience (fortresses?)? Too much infrastructure already at great risk. Post Covid, many Americans moved into areas “destined to burn”. East coast of America is subsiding and has one of the worst rates of sea-level rise in the world - “A bad combination!” “A profound risk to the stability of our real estate markets. We are watching the problem but there is a reluctance to address the problem… because it is so large!” What do we need to do? We will see large movements of people and devaluation of assets over time.
Sir David King - Antarctic Warming and the COP28 Nightmare [13 min summary version]
Full 26 min members version Contents:
- Antarctica Sea Ice Decline
- Antarctic versus Arctic differences
- Greenland can change the global map
- Arctic methane release and potential warming
- Have we crossed a global threshold?
- Can we repair climate?
- Interventions - climate repair?
- Climate is only one of our challenges
- We need new economic models
- UN COPs and broken promises
- Climate is a today problem from Bangladesh to Vietnam
- Loss & Damage is the insurance of the future
- Can we save Antarctic Ice Sheets?
- COP28 nightmare
Dr Chad Briggs - Integrating disaster risk and national security with climate policy
(Full Episode 27 mins - members: https://youtu.be/xZ7i5_m7udE or https://genn.cc/dr-chad-briggs-risk/) Contents: Military lens - military objectives requires enemies. A hammer in search of a nail. US Air Force - largest user of fuel in the world. Mitigation inevitably leads to less flight hours. Not an option. All military, governmental and even social responses have a technology bias. “Reducing emissions” is unpalatable. In Washington, Trump era impacts on EPA, hangover into Biden Administration. EPA not responding to disinformation, which has a negative impact on policymaking. Biden has already approved more oil and gas projects than the entire Trump presidency. Willow Project and LNG projects with 1200km pipelines across thawing permafrost. Huge cost - what benefit? Persistent belief that magical techno-fixes will remove pollution from the atmosphere. SRM - Can’t be controlled once aerosols are up in the stratosphere. Issues with deployment - companies attached to smaller countries sidestepping regulation. Conspiracies kill rational discussion. The Pentagon won’t even discuss it. New paradigm of disaster era present need for integrating disaster risk with climate policy. Companies still seeking to profit off climate destruction with business models projecting out 10-20 years into the future.
Dr Jennifer Francis - 2023’s symptoms of climate chaos, El Niño, Ocean Heatwaves, and Arctic Sea Ice lows
In this ClimateGenn episode I am speaking with Dr Jennifer Francis, a senior scientist at the Woods Hole Climate Research Center, in the US. 2023 has already seen record breaking temperatures in the atmosphere, land and oceans, with horrific impacts to human life, communities and ecology.
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Here we focus on three factors in the climate system that drive these extremes and are still set to break more records, creating a great deal more destruction this year. We focus on the forming El Niño climate phenomenon, as well as ocean heatwaves, impacting the Atlantic and the North Pacific.
Finally, we also discuss the role of the thinning sea ice that is accelerating change in the Arctic region. These changes drive up heat in the Arctic faster, impacting ecosystems and altering the jet stream, these latter impacts being the focus of Dr Francis’s research for over a decade.
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Sources of Water In A Drier World | Aquaseek | Marco Simonetti (Intro with Al Gore speaking at COP21)
Southern Europe is gripped by drought that could last indefinitely, representing a collapse in the sources of water that we have relied on for drinking water, industrial and agricultural purposes. In this episode we discuss the potential for using atmospheric moisture harvesting as a source for agricultural irrigation. Aquaseek have already piloted their technology in the desert in the USA and with vineyard irrigation in southern Italy. How scaleable is this technology and can we really rely on it to avert a crisis that has brought down previous civilisations?
Leave Africa Alone - Solidarity With The Voices Of The Voiceless – Ina-Maria Shikongo
In they climate Genn episode I am speaking with Namibian Activist, Ina-Maria Shikongo (Twitter: @IMariashikongo). Ina Maria has been speaking out about the unlawful exploitation of the Okavango Delta in Africa, calling on the Canadian oil company, Recon Africa, to leave Namibia.
This conversation highlights the plight of countries like Namibia in Africa and beyond, where consumption in the west creates misery and destruction elsewhere. It is absolutely critical that we understand that wider destruction is accelerating back towards us and, if we don’t take radical action to change course and consume much less, as Ina-Maria points out, the future will be bleak for us too.
Capture6 - Scaling Carbon Removal - Interview with Dr Ethan Cohen Cole CEO.
In this ClimateGenn episode I am speaking with California Climate Tech CEO, Dr Ethan Cohen-Cole, about the impact the collapse of Silicon Valley Bank had on his business and the niche climate tech sector as a whole.
Far from a 2008 financial domino effect, Ethan says this is a case of ‘one particularly mismanaged institution’, highlighting an unforeseen upside.
In any conversation of this kind, it is critical to state clearly, that all of this is waste of time if anthropogenic carbon emissions are not drastically reduced to zero in the shortest possible time. That is something that is clearly not happening now and something we all need to push for.
What piqued my interest in Capture6 is the potential coupling with existing large-scale technology such as desalination of seawater. In a drier world, we urgently need to make sure we can supply water without further damaging ecosystems.
The atmospheric burden of greenhouse gases is now so high that we are starting breach critical thresholds in the earth system. We don’t just need to stop burning fossil fuels, we need to accelerate the reduction of atmospheric carbon, down from the current levels of around 420 parts per million to well below 350 parts per million. Policymakers are currently not making the structural changes necessary for a system-wide downward shift of the emissions curve.
David Spratt: [Articulating And] Reclaiming the Climate Emergency
That was Professor James Hansen speaking during an interview I recorded in Vienna at the European Geophysical Union Conference, in 2012. In this ClimateGenn episode I speak with David Spratt, Research Director, Breakthrough National Centre for Climate Restoration in Australia, about his recent article, ‘Reclaiming the Climate Emergency’ - the links to the article are in the notes.
We discuss the origins, treatment and what next? Aspect of how do we reclaim and respond appropriately in a real Climate Emergency - much like the one we are irrefutably in.
I have also inserted a segment from this first interview with Professor Hansen in the interview with David, to better highlight how perilous the lack of action over the last decade has really been.
Patreon and Youtube ‘Water Tier’ members can watch the whole unedited 26 minutes interview with Professor Hansen that I have just uploaded. Given the lack off any progress on tackling climate change, much of what Jim said in 2012 is entirely relevant today.
Thank you for listening. I am currently working on the interview and article with Professor Jingfang Fan at the University of Beijing and also Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research. We discuss his research on teleconnections between Earth system tipping points and the identification of possible cascade mechanisms.
Reclaiming 'climate emergency’”, today published in English in the Slovenian journal Filozofski vestnik.
The article is also available at:
The whole issue is at:
Jojo Mehta, Ecocide: EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT PROPOSES INCLUDING “ECOCIDE” IN EU LAW
In this ClimateGenn episode I am speaking with Jojo Mehta, Executive Director of Stop Ecocide International about the positive news that the European Parliament is proposing to include Ecocide in EU Law, an important development in the course to have this vital legislation enshrined in international law.
For those that are not familiar with Ecocide it has this simple definition: Ecocide means unlawful or wanton acts, committed with knowledge that there is a substantial likelihood of severe and either widespread or longterm damage to the environment, being caused by those acts.
A law of Ecocide was first proposed by the late Polly Higgins and it is fantastic to see the progress the organisation is making in fulfilling its objectives. Outlawing environmental destruction is a critical part of how we as a species, reassess our relationship with nature, in the face of climate and ecological breakdown.
In the next episode I am speaking with David Spratt, Research Director, Breakthrough National Centre for Climate Restoration, in Australia about his new article on reclaiming the Climate Emergency.
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Italys Creeping Disaster - crossing the drought threshold
Discussing the critical drought situation in Europe with a focus on Italy. Visit https://genn.cc for more information. View more in the water series by backing this channel on Patreon or by becoming a Youtube member.
Quote by Dr Francesco Avanzi:
“Droughts are often called the creeping disaster because at the very beginning, you don't realise that it's coming up. And when you realise that it's often too late. And in that the dynamic is somehow similar to how the COVID pandemic played out in the early months. That awareness came when somehow it was already too late.”
“what we also see is a shift towards earlier snow seasons. So a later start, earlier melt out date. There are data from some colleagues of ours from CIMA, that have just showed that the duration of the snow season right now is unprecedented over the last 600 years in the Alps. So that's also part of the problem. So this means that, on the one hand, we have to cope with less water from snow, coming earlier than usual during spring. This means that we will have to rethink, to some extent, some of our practice in terms of where and when we store water, and when and how we use it. Last year gave us already quite a lot of lessons and I think to some extent it raised our awareness of changes that are happening. We will have to continue that adaptation and mitigation.”
Nick Breeze: This reminds us, as Francesco said at the outset, that drought is a creeping disaster. The water is stored as snow in the mountains. It runs down into rivers, into the soils and is stored beneath as groundwater. It is a mechanism that we regard as an infinite cycle. Human made climate change is interrupting the cycle by erasing the source of the water.
Dr Francesco Avanzi
“…snow that is not accumulating in a mountain during winter is water that we are not going to have during summer. That's when we need water the most for agriculture, for freshwater supply, and that translated into significant streamflow deficit…
“Groundwater is a savings account. We can take from that to cope with a single dry year. But then when we look at several dry years in a row, that reserve may dry up.”
2023 - The Dawning Era Of Overshoot & Intervention (Climate Engineering)
The UN Climate COP’s are not succeeding in solving the longterm problem of overshooting our Paris climate commitments. This episode focuses on the emerging voices that are defining the overshoot agenda. Full transcript at: https://genn.cc/2023-overshoot/ You can support this work on Patreon: https://patreon.com/genncc
Prof. Dan Bodansky - The Rise The Mega-COP's and the gap between expectation and reality
In this ClimateGenn episode, recorded on the last night of the extended COP in Sharm El Sheikh, Egypt, I am speaking with US COP veteran and legal expert, Professor Dan Bodansky from Arizona State University.
Dan has extensive experience working with the US negotiating team over the years and shares his insights as to what motivates negotiators and how the nature pot the COP’s themselves are changing from bureaucratic conferences to mega-COP jamborees where the circus atmosphere leeches into the proceedings and influences the outcomes.
However, none of this appears to be stemming the rise of global emissions to below 1.5ºC, the scientific red line that is commonly used to measure the effectiveness of climate policy.
As the breakdown of trust between Global North and South countries continues to haunt the talks, a new think tank appeared at COP27 called The Overshoot Commission tasking itself with looking at navigating a climatically unstable world.
With geoengineering in the form of carbon dioxide removal and solar radiation management firmly back on the table, Dan highlights that these investigations are currently about the exclusion of technologies that will not deliver, rather than the selection of technologies for deployment.
The clock ticks and the world is moving into new territory on multiple fronts.
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The Long Game on Loss And Damage With Dr Saleemul Huq
In this COP27 interview with Dr Saleemul Huq we discuss the arrival of Loss & Damage into the negotiations. We also discuss the need to urgently reduce emissions, first in the wealthy nations that have caused, and are causing, so much suffering and destruction, and then with assistance, across the Earth.
Saleem has been involved in the negotiations here since day 1 so is well placed to discuss the function and dysfunction of the COP process whilst keeping in mind that this is the only forum in the world where poorer vulnerable nations have a seat at the table, even if, as he says, they are not listened to.
All this must change, and fast if we are going to survive the onslaught of accelerating extreme climate impacts like fires, floods, and droughts.
Here at the COP, in the wake of incredible destructive flooding that took lives and destroyed heritage, the nation of Pakistan offers this portentous warning: “What happened in Pakistan won’t stay in Pakistan
At COP27 with Professor Katharine Hayhoe Asking, Are These The Shifting Sands of Climate Policy?
Recorded in week 2 of COP27 in Sharm El Sheikh, Egypt.
Professor Hayhoe is a Canadian climate scientist and communicator at the Nature Conservancy and Texas Tech University on the United States.
I this episode we discuss the shifting momentum away from 1.5ºC as a boundary for climate heating, as well as the new arrival of Loss & Damage into the negotiations.
Are the public becoming too cynical and are we all, on the outside, powerless to have any impact? Katharine gives her take on all these issues.
Greenland: Zombie Ice or One Foot In The Grave - Professor Jason Box
In this ClimateGenn episode, I speak with Professor Jason Box about his recent research that identifies the amount of Greenland’s ice sheet that is committed to melting in the coming decades.
This so-called Zombie Ice is not included in the mainstream models, and when added to other sources such as glaciers and even the Sleeping Giant, Antarctica, then sea level rises will far exceed current forecasts.
You can find out more on Jason’s dedicated Faster Than Forecast Youtube Channel that I have linked to in the text.
Next week I will be reporting from COP27 in Egypt. It is widely assumed that the conference can deliver nothing in the way of meaningful change in global emissions. Many are shunning the conference and it is easy to see why.
It is worth stating that for billions of people in the Global South, the COP is the only forum they have to make a case for climate justice and seek help as they try to adapt to the catastrophic impacts they are facing today because of our continued sustained burning of coal, oil, and gas.
On the flip side, many global south communities are pushing forward with adaptation strategies and becoming as resilient as possible. As climate chaos spreads, we will need their expertise in order to respond to climate extremes that are now arriving in the Global North.
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Dr Nathalie Hilmi - “We Need to Protect, Restore and Regenerate the Ocean Ecosystem”
In this ClimateGenn episode, I am speaking with Dr Nathalie Hilmi at the Centre Scientifique in Monaco about the need to invest in research, restoration and regeneration of the world's oceans.
By protecting and restoring ocean ecosystems we can start to create resilience in an area we know is in decline but yet we know so little about.
We have much of the technology and we have the intelligence but we still lack the political will and the investment to protect the world's fast-declining marine ecosystems that our lives are codependent up on.
In the next pre-COP episode I am also speaking with Professor Jason Box to highlight his new work around the Zombie ice on Greenlands ice sheet that is already committed to rising global sea levels this century and is not included in any of the climate models that we depend on for policymaking.
I’ll be catching up with both Nathalie and Jason among many others during week 2 at COP27 in Sharm El-Shiek. This is being dubbed the African COP to draw attention to the world's most vulnerable societies in the global south.
We are striving too for a global loss and damage fund that even you and I may be in need of, in the rapidly advancing onset of extreme climate impacts.
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Action And Activism - Is it time to mobilise the moderate masses?
Recent activism in the UK has made worldwide headlines. By bringing cultural treasures into the discussion, it raises new anxieties, and questions about what is at stake.
The visual impact of the soup hitting the van Gogh painting was viscerally shocking to many, including me. On reflection, it reminded me of when the painter Francis Bacon was asked what he would save in a burning house if the choice was between a Rembrandt self-portrait and a cat. Without hesitation Bacon said the cat, emphasising the value of life over art.
With that in mind, the Living Planet Report, shows that animal populations have declined by 70% since 1970. This is mass extinction territory and it is the world that these protestors are trying to draw the wider public attention to.
Regardless of what we think of their action, the post-war boomer generation and my own that have succeeded it, have partaken in this destruction both of the complex web of life on Earth and also the dreams and aspirations of the next and every successive generation.
In this ClimateGenn episode, recorded a few weeks ago with, author, philosopher, and former XR spokesperson, Professor Rupert Read, and his colleague 'Systems and culture change strategist’ Paddy Loughman, we discuss the urgent need for a mobilisation of the moderate masses in what they define as a Moderate Flank.
Social tipping points occur when enough when the force of change can no longer be held back. But what does a Moderate Flank actually look like?
Bill McGuire's Hot House Earth [Book] - Reflections on our current trajectory
In this ClimateGenn episode, I speak with climate scientist & author Professor Bill McGuire about his recent book titled Hot House Earth. Bill discusses the necessity to discuss worse-case climate outcomes at a time when emissions are still rising and political leaders are looking the other way.
We discuss the absence of global leadership in the fight to hold temperature rise to within the boundaries that humanity has thrived for the last 11 thousand years. The rate of change means that the next 100 years, let alone the next ten thousand, really require global leadership and collective action from everyone on Earth who has the ability and agency to act.
In the next episode, I speak with former XR spokesman, author, and philosopher, Professor Rupert Read, and Systems and culture change strategist, Paddy Loughman, who have been working towards establishing a new inclusive cross-societal paradigm of action to tackle climate breakdown, that they call the Moderate Flank.
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Ep. 08: Creating a Sustainable Wine Region - João Barroso
In this final Sustainability in Alentejo episode, I speak with João Barroso, manager of the Wines of Alentejo Sustainability Programme (WASP).
We discuss how the programme evolved from a need to respond to worsening climatic conditions, into a solid certification programme to help communicate the measured results of producers who take sustainability seriously. João also discusses how the programme consciously developed a knowledge-sharing network to accelerate the uptake of best practices.
Some of these best practices include the use of regenerative farming which, in a drought-prone region like Alentejo, is showing very positive results. The difference here, as João says, is between trying to survive in a desert, or, thriving in a garden of Eden. Either way, viticulture at higher temperatures has to mean working with nature, as Professor Kimberly Nicholas has said earlier in the series.
The last point, as Dr Gregory Jones mentioned earlier, is about finding ways to expand these best practices beyond the regional level to the national and international levels. This is where the wine producers and journalists and communicators interface to tell those stories. It seems to me that it is up to all of us to try and decode what is behind the certification labels. We do this best by telling the stories of contemporary viticulture that respects nature, promotes stewardship of the land, and ultimately inspires trust in consumers that the wine industry is on a sustainable pathway.
Dr Shaun Fitzgerald OBE - Can Kelp Forests Capture a billion tonnes of carbon?
In this ClimateGenn Episode, Dr Shaun Fitzgerald OBE, Director of the Centre for Climate Repair in Cambridge, discusses new research to build resilient and scaleable kelp growing platforms, asking the key question of whether kelp forests can capture and store a billion tonnes of carbon?
As the Centre for Climate Repair forges ahead with its 3 R’s strategy of reducing emissions, removing carbon from the atmosphere and repairing essential climate systems such as the Arctic, Shaun has high hopes for large scale ocean sequestration but does not stop short of stating the need for urgent research into engineering methods for reflecting sunlight away from the Earth.
These are controversial proposals for many people and yet the climate problem keeps getting worse, with many governments only making tiny incremental commitments that maintain the status quo of a fossil fuel driven economy and society.
The truth is, as Professor Kevin Anderson has stated, that if we rely on the current ambition our political leaders, we really “are going to hell in a handcart”.
I am interested to hear feedback from listeners and gauge your thoughts on these kinds of proposals.
Ep. 07: Regenerative, Resilient, Balanced - Luis Patrão at Herdade de Coelheiros
In this episode, I am speaking with Luis Patrão, director of enology and viticulture at Coelheiros, a stunning 800 hectare, historic estate, north of Evora, in the centre of Alentejo.
When I visited the estate, Luis gave me a guided tour to demonstrate how the 600+ hectare cork oak forest, 50 hectares of vines, and the 40 hectare walnut orchard are being transformed into a regenerated resilient, and balanced ecosystem that is simply glorious.
It wasn’t always like this. The estate had more of a focus on hunting, running all the way back to 1467. It was only at the end of the last century, that Coelheiros started to be transformed into what is now a buzz of biodiversity.
Luis explains how their biggest challenge has been small birds and bugs, that eat everything from the plants themselves to the fruit they produce.
Wetland restoration and ending centuries of hunting have seen the return of birds of prey such as eagles and falcons. These in return have driven away the small birds that eat the fruit, and the introduction of bats is proving effective at balancing the bug population.
Luis also talks about the increased use of grapes more suited to the climate. Alicant Bouschet is again a favourite for this purpose, where the berries have proven to be more resilient to heatwaves, as well as having a later ripening period.
A feature of this conversation is that Luis talks about the positive impact this process of ‘working with nature’ has had on the wine quality, which he describes as being “ more pure and with greater richness on the palate”.
This kind of readiness for the new cycles of hotter and intense climatic conditions mean that Coelheiros is one of the leaders in Alentejo in starting out on the pilgrimage towards a truly sustainable viticulture.
The AMOC – Is a shut down faster than models forecast? Dr Levke Caeser.
In this ClimateGenn episode, I am speaking to Dr Levke Caesar about the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation, or AMOC, about what would happen if this vital piece of the climate system either slowed dramatically or even shut down altogether.
To date the models have been poor anticipators of the speed of localised climate changes. Levke gives an insightful and sincere perspective on the importance of the AMOC as a critical piece of the climate system jigsaw.
In the next episode, we stay in the oceans and speak with Dr Shaun Fitzgerald, Director of the Centre for Climate Repair in Cambridge, about the collaborative effort they are involved with to develop kelp seaweed for both carbon sequestration and the benefit of marine ecosystems and more.
Subscribers via Patreon can also access another episode with Professor Bill McGuire discussing his new book Hothouse Earth and, very shortly, a new interview from my visit to the Monaco Scientific Centre to interview Dr Nathalie Hilmi about the centre's work in ocean research and conservation with corals and whales among other marine ecosystems on the agenda.
Please also check out the Sustainability in Alentejo wine series that I have been posting. The latest episode features an interview with Professor Kimberly Nicholas at the University of Lund about regenerative practices that underscore the critical importance of learning to work with nature rather than against nature.
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EP. 06: Prof. Kimberly Nicholas, “Working with Nature” – Sustainability In Alentejo Series
In this interview with climate and wine scientist, Professor Kimberly Nicholas, we discuss the urgency of the climate crisis and the need to scale up mitigation and adaptation in the wine industry and beyond to avoid catastrophic impacts of climate heating.
Kimberly is originally from Sonoma in California’s wine country and is currently based in Sweden at the University of Lund. She has also recently published a book titled ‘Under The Sky We Make’ highlighting the agency available to all of us to contribute toward a better world. Kimberly also produces a monthly advice column called We Can Fix It sharing thoughts and engaging in broader discussion on this complex subject.
With the lens focussed primarily on wine, we look at the benefits of using a wider range of grape varieties, as well as the growing trend towards regenerative agriculture, to restore soil carbon and build resilience.
To give some context to why there is an emphasis on words like urgency, catastrophe, and resilience, is because the Intergovernmental Panel On Climate Change (IPCC), a scientist-led division of the United Nations, have in 2022 stated that we need to reduce our emissions in developed nations by 10-12% per year, in order to have a 50% chance of holding warming from rising above 1.5ºC global mean average.
Reducing emissions this fast is a colossal task and is why so many people now agree we are in a climate emergency. Action must start now across our society if we are going to stand a chance of succeeding in sustaining a liveable climate.
The world of wine may only be a tiny percentage of global agriculture but it is also a very sensitive crop and widely regarded as a cultural and luxury product. It is also greatly exposed to the risks of a changing climate and is widely seen as a leader in taking the actions required to transition towards true sustainability.
Ep 5: Alentejo Wine Series Herdade do Esporão, João Roquette - Leaders in Sustainability
In this episode of Sustainability in Alentejo Wine Series, I am speaking with João Roquette, CEO and Chairman of the Esporão group about the company’s transformation to organic and resilient production.
Esporão is one of the most famous brand names in Portuguese wine and especially in Alentejo. João has played a leading role driving the company’s move towards organic viticulture.
During my visit I saw huge amounts of effort going into researching indigenous varieties for adaptability to the new climate conditions which are extreme today but will rapidly become normal tomorrow.
The extent of this work has made Esporão a phenomenal success. The company owns 623ha of organic vineyards – the biggest ownership in Portugal, representing about 18% of total organic production in the country.
Here João talks us through how the company reoriented itself as a pioneer towards sustainability goals before the WASP programme was established.
He also says, the Alentejo region as a whole should be proudly waving the flag as leaders in Portugal in taking bold environmental action.
… the situation is a little bit frightening! Kelly Wanser, Silver Lining Institute: climate modelling, interventions, and unlocking global south talent “quickly”
In this ClimateGenn episode I speak to Silver Lining Institute Executive Director, Kelly Wanser about the urgent need to invest billions of dollars into expanding our global coverage of climate modelling capacity.
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The worsening risks we face mean climate interventions to cool the planet are back in discussion in the corridors of power. We discuss the hold ups and the necessity for research that could give all of us a clear idea as to whether such schemes should be deployed or not.
We also discuss how engaging the talents of global south scientists beyond the current superficial level could be a game changer in advancing our ability to respond, and to intervene, in order to counter the catastrophic impacts of warming we are seeing accelerating all around us.
“We are in the far end of what looks like a really bad place for climate change.”
“The media is telling us the math doesn’t add up and the situation is getting a little bit frightening.”
On climate interventions: “Looking at the system where it is and the dangers to people… and the dangers to natural systems, ecology and biodiversity, we are now seeing there is more openness in those communities who were extremely opposed to this than they were in the past… and that’s new!”
“Ultimately, in the United States, and we’ll make this call to the rest of the world, we think there needs to be a step function, a real multi-billion dollar increase in investing against our observations and out model improvements. Separate from climate intervention, just to do the problems, we are not investing enough.”
“We quickly need money and this technical access for researchers in the global south if we want to say that their participation is meaningful… I’ll speak bluntly, I think their participation is more superficial than it should be because they don’t have the capacity to actually do the science.”
Excerpts from interview with Kelly Wanser, Exec Director of SilverLining Institute.
Ep 04 - Helena Ferreira | Adega De Borba, where Sustainability equals survival
During my trip across Alentejo, it was a pleasure to visit the cooperative Adega de Borba. Winemaking in and around Borba has a long pedigree and is even mentioned in ‘Murray’s handbook to Travels in Portugal’, published in 1864, with reference to ‘A considerable quantity of wine is produced at Borba..’
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And so it is to this day with Borba producing around 10 million bottles per year.
The co-op is also renowned for its quality with their very popular Adega de Borba Reserva being a top seller with its iconic label printed on cork.
During my visit I was given a tour of the winery and the cellars by Helena Ferreira, the director in charge of production and quality control. Helena has been implementing an impressive suite of sustainability protocols right across the organisation.
These include training the 300 growers, covering over 2200 hectares of vineyards, to improving energy, water, and waste management. All of this work is to ensure that the one thousand families who rely on Adega de Borba for their living, have confidence that they will be producing wine there in the years and decades yet to come.
This is episode 4 of 8 in a special series on sustainability in Alentejo in Southern Portugal - one of the most vulnerable wine regions in the world.
Maladaptation - Dr Lisa Schipper - Perils of Bad Climate Adaptation
In this ClimateGenn episode, we are discussing the risk of maladaptation that can seriously undermine our efforts to tackle the climate challenges we know are coming towards us.
Dr Lisa Schipper is an Environmental Social Science Research Fellow at the Environmental Change Institute at the University of Oxford whose work focuses on adaptation to climate change in developing countries, looking at factors that include gender, religion, and culture, to understand what drives vulnerability.
As vulnerability and suffering increase, it is critical we are able to engage as many people as possible to help shape the solutions that benefit us all and avoid critical errors that can have long-lasting detrimental effects.
In the next episode, I am speaking with Kelly Wanser from the Silver Lining Institute in Washington about their work in trying to counter near-term Earth system destabilisation by a combination of advanced supercomputer situations and interventions that might include marine cloud brightening.
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Ep 3: Herdade de Mouchão, Biodiversity, Terroir, A Scorching Climate And Struggle for Sustainability
In this Alentejo Wines episode, I am speaking to Iain Richardson, from the wine estate, Mouchão.
Mouchão is a great example of an integrated estate in Alentejo where different flora and fauna are interwoven to create the whole.
The Sobreiro, or cork oak trees, are an integral part of the history of this region and yet, as Iain tells us, climate is one of the drivers that is causing a substantial die-off against which he and his team are fighting.
For reference, the Arroba, mentioned in this recording is actually a measure used for weighing cork, equivalent to 15 kilograms.
The story of Mouchao is one that really marries the past with the present in terms of identifying the moment where history and tradition are faced with the need for non-linear responses in order to achieve sustainability.
It is the story that really connects the glass of wine, or jug of olive oil, to the seemingly infinite physical and chemical interactions within the biosphere.
It is also the great human challenge to adapt to these changes, regenerate our soils, and build resilience while learning to live in a different world.
This feeds back into the importance of what programmes like WASP can achieve when they provide the framework for measuring change and disseminating knowledge.
IS US CONGRESS A GLOBAL CLIMATE SECURITY THREAT? Interview with Lieutenant General Norman Seip (Ret)
In this ClimateGenn episode, I speak with Lieutenant General Norman Seip, the President of the American Security Project, about the urgency for the US Senate to stop playing dice with the global climate and vote through policy that will steer America back on course to being a nation worthy of respect. Ever since President George Bush Senior declared the American Way of Life is not up for negotiation, the United States has stood in the way of global efforts to limit the impacts of climate destruction.
We are now unnecessarily gambling our collective futures away because US politicians put wealth and ideology above the endless warnings of climate scientists, ecologists, among many others now screaming for change to avert disaster. It is late in the day and we are all now at risk from business as usual policy and investment that prolongs the use of fossil fuels. Changing now could avert some suffering and, as we discuss here, the United States must grow up and face its responsibility as the world's largest emitter.
Episode 2 - DR Greg Jones, Climate Science And Wine
Nick Breeze, Dr Greg V Jones
In the second episode of the Alentejo climate and sustainability series, I'm speaking with winemaker and climate scientist Dr. Greg Jones, who has co-authored climate and wine research papers looking at the vulnerability of certain regions to climate change. One, in particular, that is relevant to this series titled 'Climate Change & Global Wine Quality', published in 2005 states, "Other regions currently with warmer growing seasons, i.e. southern Portugal may become too warm for the existing varieties grown there and hot climate maturity regions may become too warm to produce high-quality wines of any type."
A couple of factors that are important in responding to this deduction are as follows. Mitigation is still essential. Every one of us, every business, every wine business, must play a part in the decarbonisation of human systems. Doing so is a collective responsibility that runs all the way through the wine business, from the vineyards, to how wine is communicated and consumed. But this alone is not enough wine producers have to go further in building resilience, regenerating soils, and ecosystems. This is as much about stewardship as it is about survival.
The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, the IPCC recently released a report that states adaptation is critical, because climate impacts due to human-caused global warming, are now unavoidable. Here, Dr. Jones outlines some of the impacts we can expect in regions such as Alentejo, which are among the world's most vulnerable to heat increases and drought conditions. He also gives us his view on why regional certification programs such as the Wines of Alentejo Sustainability Programme play a crucial role in the sharing of knowledge, as well as providing the framework by which actions and progress can be measured. This second episode represents a broader view before we zoom in and meet the producers in Alentejo and hear their fascinating stories about the actions they are taking to boost resilience and protect the quality and reputation of the region.
Exposing London's Dirty Business | Fossil Free London
In this ClimateGenn episode I speak with Fossil Free London activist Nuri Syed Corser about their focussed activism targeting the biggest polluters operating in the UK’s capital.
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At a time when the UK is reeling from extreme heatwaves, the government are holding back on renewable energy projects and backing fossil fuel investments that will please their backers and make the climate problem much, much worse. They are also using the Russian invasion of Ukraine as an excuse to increase coal, oil and gas extraction across the British Isles.
Activist groups like Fossil Free London help to highlight who the polluters are and bring public attention to their careless and destructive activities. As has been said in previous interviews, the activists and civil society groups are more inline with what the science tells us we need to do than the policymakers entrusted to protect us. This has to stop.
Thanks for listening to Climate Genn. In the next episode I am speaking with a retired US General Norman Seip who is now President of the American Security Project and who agrees with me that as much as Climate Change is a US National Security Threat, US climate policy is itself a security threat to the rest of the world.
Sustainability And Wine In Alentejo, S Portugal - Episode 1, an introduction
As Part of the Climate Genn podcast, I am publishing concurrently with my normal interviews, a series within a series every week for the next 8 weeks called Sustainability & Wine in Alentejo, Portugal’s largest and most climate vulnerable region. This series is part of a larger project commissioned by the Wines of Alentejo Sustainability Programme with whom I have been collaborating for the past year.
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Alentejo Episodes to be released 1 per week for 8 weeks:
EP. 1 Sustainability & Wine in Alentejo An Introduction - Alentejo, a climate-vulnerable region
EP. 2 Dr Greg Jones - we need regional schemes that build into broader framework at a global level
EP. 3 Herdade do Mouchão, Iain Richardson - 600 mature cork oak trees a year lost, it was tragic!
EP. 4 Adega de Borba, Helena Ferriera - 1000 families depend on this business
EP. 5 Herdade do Esporão, João Roquette - Leaders In Portugal
EP. 6 Professor Kimberly Nicholas, Working With Nature
EP. 7 Herdade de Coelheiros, Luis Patrão - If we don’t adapt we are finished
EP. 8 Wines of Alentejo Sustainability Programme (WASP) João Barroso
Why are climate scientists getting arrested? Dr Stuart Capstick discusses the upside and downside of direct action.
In this ClimateGenn episode, I am speaking to climate psychologist and Deputy Director and theme lead for the Centre for Climate Change and Social Transformation (CAST Centre) Dr Stuart Capstick from Cardiff University about why scientists who research aspects of climate change are deciding to protest in public, and in some cases getting arrested.
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We discuss the role of scientists in society as a group that have for many years played a key role in informing policy - but what happens when policymakers are not listening and the consequences mean risking the lives and well beings of citizens, which of course, includes their own family and friends.
Stuart is a researcher looking at many aspects of civil disobedience and the publics response to it and has a lot to say that implies to me that more and more people with positions of authority are saying that is enough is enough - the risks to our own existence are now too high.
In the next episode I speak with Nuri Syed Corser from Fossil Free London, a group of activists specifically targeting the fossil fuel industry, their backers and enablers, by, for example, disrupting shareholder events and other tactics.
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Sunny Morgan: Cancel the debt... take your knee off the neck of the Global South!
In this ClimateGenn episode, I am speaking with Sunny Morgan in South Africa about the Debt for Climate Campaign that is calling for the global north to cancel the debts of the global south, which are both crippling the economies in developing nations and financing huge fossil fuel projects that we desperately need to get rid of.
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Sunny outlines how these institutions work with corporations to lock in hugely destructive projects that are destroying natural ecology, trashing the climate, and ruining people's lives.
This is a system of corruption that must be stopped as part of the just transition to a fairer and cleaner world. There simply is no place for what equates to a contemporary form of colonialism and the campaign will be making its case at the G7 meeting later this month in Germany and again at COP27 in Egypt in November. Check out their website at debtforclimate.org
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Dr John B Cobb | Living Earth Movement to unite China and the US for climate and ecology
In this ClimateGenn episode, I am speaking with the theologian, environmentalist and philosopher, and author of over 50 books, Dr John B Cobb, about his efforts to bring into being a Living Earth Movement.
The Living Earth Movement asks us all to look at how we can reshape humanity to act as part of the ecosphere and not against it. A major part of John’s mission is to call on the US and China to stop competing and start working together as leaders in the change we need to end the destruction of our planet.
John implores all of us as individuals to think about the way we live and not take anything for granted, especially now that we are committed to devastating impacts from the ecological destruction we are bringing on ourselves.
The Living Earth Movement (livingearthmovement.eco) was founded in February, this year at the same time that John turned 97 years old, clearly demonstrating that it is never too late to take action to strive for a better world for all ecology.
Action and activism are hot topics at the moment and in the next episode I am speaking Sunny Morgan in South Africa about a new campaign called Cancel The Debt - a call from thousands of activists in the global south demanding the global north cancel the very debts that are preventing them rising out of poverty and accelerating a green transition.
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Prof Kevin Anderson |Worst of both worlds - dire impacts + less carbon budget
In this ClimateGenn episode, I am speaking with professor Kevin Anderson from the Tyndall Centre at Manchester University.
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This is a longer interview with many, I believe, crucial points for consideration.
We discuss our current usage of the available carbon budget for 1.5ºCelsius at just under 1% per month.
Also the dangerous and foolish behaviour of UK Secretary of State for Energy, Kwasi Kwarteng, in trying to reclassify natural gas (methane), as a green gas in order to increase investment.
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Kevin Anderson Quotes:
“Practically and morally, we are obliged to help [poorer nations] leapfrog over their fossil fuel period.”
“Every month we are using just under 1% of the carbon budget.”
“Senior academics are the new climate skeptics in my view!”
“Natural gas - Methane is a transition fuel… to 4ºC”
“We all paint a picture that fits with our world view but as we reassess that world view repeatedly, eventually it doesn’t sit with our world view.”
“It is disturbing and interesting in the law that we will protect things that are causing incredible damage and we will prosecute things that are trying to stop that incredible damage being caused.”
“Particularly academics, we are paid to be honest and direct about our research and we will sweeten the pill, hugely sweeten the pill in public and I think that is deeply arrogant, of often very decent people, fast we think the public can’t deal with it”
“The policymakers are simply not up to the job.”
In March, Kevin and colleagues at the Tyndall Centre released a research paper titled: Phaseout Pathways for Fossil Fuel Production within Paris-compliant Carbon Budgets. I begin by asking Kevin to clarify the critical points of this paper as he can do this much more clearly than I can!
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No. 1 Climate vulnerable wine region, Alentejo in S Portugal, focuses on true sustainability & regenerative agriculture
In this ClimateGenn episode, I am introducing Alentejo in Southern Portugal, declared in 2005 as one of the most climate-vulnerable wine regions in the world. The Alentejo region has been seeing temperatures rise and drought conditions intensify as rain patterns become more erratic and extreme.
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In June I will be releasing a series of 9 recordings from my visit and interviews with producers and members of the Wines of Alentejo Sustainability Programme, looking at how they are responding to the emergent climate challenges.
In the next ClimateGenn episode out this week, I am speaking with Professor Kevin Anderson about his recent research paper on phasing out fossil fuels to stay within the 1.5ºC obligation that governments set in Paris in 2015. This is a detailed conversation where Kevin talks about our current predicament being ‘The worst of both worlds with dire consequences and less carbon budget available to transition to clean energy’.
What follows is the narration of the typescript of my overall response to the presentation given in London by the Wines of Alentejo producers.
Sir David King on Heatwaves, Action, and Activism: "No one will escape.."
The current heatwave in India and Pakistan sets the scene for this ClimateGenn episode, speaking with Climate Crisis Advisory Group Chair, Professor Sir David King about their new report on what we must do to have the best chance of averting climate and ecological collapse.
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Sir David makes it very clear that nobody will escape these impacts as the climate emergency worsens and what we are seeing in India continues to spread around the world.
Sir David emphasises the need for solidarity and pulling together to meet the challenges at the global level. He also highlights that wealthier countries must pay-up on adaptation costs for vulnerable and poorer nations.
As someone with first hand experience of the climate negotiations, Sir David points the finger at the United States for its lack of global leadership on appropriate climate action at the political level.
Activism around the world is stepping up as people realise the failures of governments to take appropriate action. Even the UN Secretary General is calling out the failures of world leaders, declaring that activists are rational actors compared to those entrusted with power.
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Dr Delton Chen | Ministry For A Living System Economy
In this ClimateGenn episode I speak with Dr Delton Chen, the originator of the ‘Chen Paper’ concept made famous by Kim Stanley Robinson in his book, Ministry For The Future. Delton is an engineer by training but has take almost a decade out to study economics to see if his Carbon Reward Coin concept, the idea of a reward for mitigating carbon, could provide the missing link needed to rebalance the human economy.
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The Global Reward Coin would be backed by central banks around the world in order to provide stability and a mechanism to account for what he calls, The Living Systems Economy.
By making a comparative analysis of this concept with other economic proposals, Delton asserts that de-growth and circular economy proposals are inadequate to solve the climate emergency when placed in the context of the current paradigm of human civilisation. Please do comment or send feedback as I will be interested to hear what people think.
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