
Nonprofit Lowdown
By Rhea Wong

Nonprofit LowdownOct 08, 2020

#254 - Being Fiscally SeCURE with Raj Thakkar
Hey friends and fellow nonprofit nerds! Get ready for a super fun and informative chat with my buddy Raj Thakkar.
You may know Raj as the founding genius behind FOREsight Financial Services for Good. But did you also know he's the author of a brand-new book called Fiscally Secure?! Raj knows his stuff when it comes to helping nonprofits get their financial ducks in a row. And let me tell you, it is WAY more interesting than it sounds. Who knew analytics could be so uplifting?
In this episode, we're talking all things budgeting, fundraising, and shaking that scarcity mindset! Raj shares his 10-step framework for getting – and staying – fiscally fit. I know it sounds intimidating but I promise it’s way more empowering than it is scary.
We also dive into creative ways to build revenue that don’t involve emptying your bank account. Hint: the answer isn’t always hiring expensive development pros! Sometimes the best solutions are right under our quirky nonprofit noses.
So pour yourself something fun (I’m drinking sparkling water with lime today!) and get ready to geek out on numbers. I promise you’ll be feeling inspired, not stressed, by the time our chat is done.
Sound like your kind of episode? Then click play! Let’s get fiscally secure together, friends.
“What I realized was there was actually a method to our madness and ended up calling it “The Fiscal Responsibility Method” where there's ten components to responsible financial management in the way we define it.” - Raj Thakkar
Important Links:
https://csbm.com/fiscally-secure/

#253 - Joy in Storytelling with Tara Dorabji
We all know storytelling is a powerful way to move people and effect change on the important issues of today. But in the fundraising world, storytelling has gotten a bad rap. Poverty porn, sensationalism, and negative storytelling practices have left a bad taste in our mouths and, at times, exposed the very people we want to help.
So how can we use the powerful language of storytelling to unify and empower communities rather than divide and conquer?
Join me today as I talk to Tara Dorabji, Vice President and Chief Strategy Officer for The Center for Cultural Power!
We talk about the need for value-aligned storytelling that is rooted in authenticity and how we can choose, gather, and elevate stories and storytellers to amplify and elevate diverse voices that can accelerate systemic cultural change.
We also dive into how to test and measure the impact of our influence so that our efforts don’t fall on deaf ears.
Tune in for an eye-opening discussion that just might put the joy back into your storytelling!
“It's not just about one messenger. … [D]ifferent Messengers speak to different groups, so it's important to have a multitude of stories and to continue to test and … learn. And as culture shifts and people shift, the storytelling will change too.” - Tara Dorabji, Vice President of The Center for Cultural Power
Important Links:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tara-dorabji-a364711/
The Border Report 2023: https://www.culturalpower.org/stories/the-border-report-2023/

#252 - Maximizing LinkedIn for your NPO with Tania Bhattacharyya
Social media is a modern-day jungle. If you don’t know who you are and what you want to say; the algorithms will eat you for breakfast. So what choice do non-profit folks have if we want to be heard above all the noise? Please, don’t tell me I have to dance... PLEASE don’t tell me I have to dance…
Not even a little, my non-profit fam!
For your sake and mine, today I’m joined by the marvelous Tania Bhattacharyya, founder of Lumos Marketing Co and host of Campfire Circle Podcast. She’ll tell us all about her experience in the non-profit world and her unmatched storytelling prowess on LinkedIn. Tania teaches underrecognized social impact leaders - coaches, consultants, service providers, and nonprofit execs - to build top of mind trust and community by sharing their stories on LinkedIn.
“What's beautiful about building a personal brand as a non-profit leader is you get to pick the audience that … lights you up and that you were put on this planet to make a difference for. And so often it is the person that you once were or still are. It's the person that you can become a guide for because you have trudged through that journey yourself and now you have some nuggets of expertise and advice and wisdom to pass on.” - Tania Bhattacharyya
Tania champions the idea that you can be consistent and “lazy on LinkedIn” and still gain traction with people you want to meet. It’s all about resonance versus reach, and I can’t wait for you to soak it all in!
Get ready to hear practical tips for building your brand and cultivating legit relationships on LinkedIn through thought leadership–without doing a song and dance or an endless stream of meaningless content.
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#251 - When a Black Founder Transitions with Cassie Haynes & Jean Friedman-Rudovsky
Succession planning. We all know it’s a possibility, but none of us wants to think about it. What processes do you have in place to protect your organization from losing funding? How will you manage the optics and let funders know your organization’s values and vision won’t change just because one person steps down?
Hint: Don’t make it all about you!
Join me today as I talk to Cassie Haynes and Jean Friedman-Rudovsky, the powerhouse co-founders of Resolve Philly, to get the lowdown on how they emerged from a leadership transition after Cassie, a black co-founder, stepped down from her position to be closer to her newly widowed mother.
Find out what strategies they used to mitigate damages, disperse responsibilities, and elevate staff members to positions of higher visibility so that the organization could continue affecting change to make Philidelphia’s journalism scene a more equitable and diverse playing field.
“We have always prioritized the storytelling around our work coming from those who are carrying out the work. More and more folks on our team are… showing up at conferences to talk about the work. […] When our funders think about who Resolve is, they should think about 25 people.” - Cassie Haynes, Resolve Philly Cofounder
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#250 - Philanthropy by the Numbers with Dr. Una Osili
I’ve said it before; if you want to get big contributions, you have to make big asks. But, for so many of us, our scarcity mindset holds us back. We wonder, can we really make big asks in an economic downturn? Does generosity still exist in America in 2023? Do donors of color give monetarily to the causes they care about?
The numbers say, yes, to all of the above! Data for the win!
Nerd out on numbers with me on today’s podcast as I get Dr. Una Osili’s thoughts on global philanthropy and giving trends in our complex philanthropic ecosystem.
Dr. Una Osili is the Director of Research at the Center on Philanthropy at Indiana University and the Associate Dean for Research and International Programs at the Indiana University, Lilly Family School of Philanthropy.
Listen to the full episode and subscribe for more data-based tips and tricks that will transform your mindset and help you niche down to find large givers and build trust as you can form a community of givers united under a common mission and vision.
“So donors now know that it's possible to give in an unrestricted way. This is not just a good time to be engaging donors, but it's also an important time to bring innovative and transformational opportunities to those donors and to ask for those transformational gifts because more donors are aware of the needs.” - Dr. Una Osili
Important Links:
Lilly Family School of Philanthropy - https://philanthropy.iupui.edu/index.html
The General Social Survey - https://gss.norc.org/
Mays Family Institute on Diverse Philanthropy - https://philanthropy.iupui.edu/institutes/mays-institute/about/index.html
Global Philanthropy Tracker - https://globalindices.iupui.edu/tracker/index.html
Global Philanthropy Indices - https://globalindices.iupui.edu/tracker/index.html
Global Philanthropy Environment Index - https://globalindices.iupui.edu/environment-index/index.html

#249 - Women's Leadership Council
In this episode, we're joined by the inspiring voices of Alison Overseth, Gisele Castro, and Erica Hamilton at The Women's Leadership Council. Our discussion centers around the dynamic landscape of leadership, highlighting our personal experiences, insights, and the ever-important journey toward diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) efforts.
We’ll dive into topics that are pertinent for any woman pursuing a career in leadership, specifically current and future CEOs and EDs. Join us as we get answers to the following questions:
What’s the importance of defining a North Star to guide your decisions and actions?
How do you maintain and balance your peace and well-being in such a demanding job?
What mental shifts and practices are necessary for leading an organization?
What bright spots and challenges will we see as the next generation enters the workforce?
What are some hard-earned tips for recruiting, managing, and changing your board?
And how can we drive authentic change through cultural shifts and ongoing DEI efforts?
“[H]ow much are we pursuing excellence and how are we passing on what we have learned to another group of people? [...] As an organization that at one point was not so visible and now it is, it comes with different pressure points… I didn't know I signed up for that. I did, I actually did by being a women leader.” Gisele Castro, CEO of exalt
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#248 - Small Shop Strategies with Rachel Bearbower
Meet my friend and homegirl, the amazing Rachel Bearbower. She is the Founder of Small Shop Strategies, a nonprofit consultancy focused on teaching Executive Directors how to detangle their systems so they can focus their time + energy on building relationships and raising more for their causes.
This episode is perfect for those Executive Directors and fundraisers who are neurospicy, who struggle with consistent, boring action, and who need help prioritizing tasks that drive results.
Are you awkward when you’re fundraising? So are we! We talk about the importance of being a real human and not taking things personally when you hear the word “no.”
Hear our personal experiences and mistakes in fundraising as we discuss nurturing donor relationships, managing board expectations, capitalizing on your board member’s genius, and upgrading yourself, your systems, and your software for sustainable success.
“You can create all the systems, but at the end of the day, it’s just doing the damn thing. There’s not a silver bullet. It’s the consistent reps over and over and over that are going to get you the result that you want... It’s those little things, building in those little habits that are going to help you raise that million dollars… two million… five million.” -Rachel Bearbower
Links:
https://www.smallshopstrategies.com/
Additional Resources:
10x Is Easier Than 2x by Dan Sullivan and Benjamin Hardy
The Nuclear Effect by Scott Oldford
Getting Things Done: The Art of Stress-Free Productivity by David Allen

#247 - Root Causes of Burnout with Dr. Emily Bennett
In this episode, we’re joined by the mind-bending Dr. Emily Bennet, ND, CEO of Kindling who answers the question, “How can we take better personal responsibility for our own well-being in the midst of being devoted to this purpose-driven work?”
We talk about our personal experiences with workplace burnout and explore the internal and external pressures of wanting to “do more for the cause” at the expense of our mental and physical health. We dive into potential factors influencing our decisions to muscle through it despite all the warning signs. Are we influenced by hustle culture? Do we have generational baggage on board? Do Gen Zers have the answer to all our workplace woes? Join us to learn the three facets of burnout, practical tips for managers and execs to protect their teams and some of the common triggers of burnout. Spoiler alert! Your loneliness just might be killing you.
Also, listen for a quick self-evaluation to determine if you or your team are at risk for or are currently experiencing burnout.
“There are these structural pieces that play a part in influencing somebody to set themselves aside entirely and give too much, such that the energy they’re putting toward the cause is not going to be sustainable.” - Emily
Links:
https://www.dremilybennett.com/free-training
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#246 - Childfree by Choice with Therese Shechter
In this episode, we're joined by the fierce Therese Shechter, the brain behind "My So-Called Selfish Life," who's flipping the script on pronatalism and societal norms.
From tearing apart the underpinnings of pronatalism to exposing its ties with white supremacy and racism, we're setting the stage for an eye-opening conversation. We deep-dive into how our policies, driven by hidden pronatalist forces, shape our society and what it means to be a woman.
Next, we explore powerful real-world scenarios where pronatalist policies are taking center stage.
As we advocate for equitable policies, join us for a conversation about childfree living as a choice, and a right.
"I think that being able to make the decision that you don't want to be pregnant and then having a procedure where you're no longer pregnant is a basic human right." - Therese
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#245 - Funding Feminist Movements with Latanya Mapp Frett
In this insightful episode, I engage in a profound discussion with the esteemed Latanya Mapp Frett, Executive Director of Global Fund for Women, and author of 'The Everyday Feminist: The Key to Sustainable Social Impact - Driving Movements We Need Now More than Ever'.
Fun fact: Latanya was my boss over 20 years ago when I interned at UNICEF and we’re reconnecting!
We delve into the heart of influential feminist social movements, examining the leaders, art, and narratives that have propelled them to success. Mapp Frett shares her expertise, offering practical steps that organizations and individuals can implement to further their impact.
We discuss the significance of feminist funds, the role of men and boys in advancing a feminist future, and provide actionable advice to enact change globally.
'The Everyday Feminist' serves as a strategic blueprint for effecting social change. You can find the book in our show notes or click here to purchase. This episode is a crucial listen for anyone committed to making a difference. Tune in for a deep exploration of practical feminism in action.
"Women are the ones who are doing the work. So why are matching the resources not getting to them?" - Latanya

#244 - Innovations in Board Management with Bill Ryan
Get ready for some board management wisdom! In this episode, I sat down with the brilliant Bill Ryan, a nonprofit board governance expert 🌟 We dove into the nitty-gritty of effective board management, covering everything from board culture to fundraising and the three modes of governance. 💼💰 Key Points: 🌟 Board Culture: Boards need to align their culture with the organization's mission. Bridging generational and ideological gaps through open dialogue and getting to know each other is key. 👥✨ 💪 Fundraising Challenges: Boards often struggle with fundraising due to unclear expectations, lack of training, and avoidance. But fear not! By providing the right tools, training, and support, we can empower board members to fulfill their fundraising responsibilities. 📈💰 🌟 Changing Board Culture: Boards must take ownership of their fundraising role and engage in honest discussions about goals, accountability, and individual contributions. Realistic expectations and meaningful work are the secret sauce to motivate board members. 🏆💼 💼 The Three Modes of Governance: We explored the fiduciary mode (oversight and compliance), the strategic mode (planning and decision-making), and the generative mode (generating insights and agreement). Engaging in generative work allows boards to shape the organization and drive effective governance. 📊🤝 💰 The Connection Between Governance and Fundraising: Effective governance, especially through generative work, boosts board members' motivation and generosity in fundraising. When boards take ownership and see the impact of their work, they become passionate fundraisers. 🙌💵 💬 Open Conversations about Money and Fundraising: Acknowledging board members' fears and concerns about money and fundraising is crucial. Honest dialogue and understanding help board members overcome anxieties and become rockstar fundraisers! 💪💸 Don't miss out on Bill Ryan's expertise! Connect with him: https://ryanconsultinggroup.com/ to take your board management to the next level. 📞🚀 "We can find questions to put to boards that are at the right altitude." -Bill

#243 - Gen Z staff, Gen X leaders with Darren Isom
My friend and repeat guest Darren Isom is down to speak some truth. In this fun episode, we talk about the generational and cultural shifts in the workplace as Boomers retire and millennials are taking up the mantle of leadership. We discuss the challenge of Gen X’ers being the sandwich generation, how we’re not setting BIPOC leaders up for success and why tights are not pants.
This episode is perfect for anyone who has felt confounded and whipsawed by the rapidly changing norms and shifting expectations of the workplace at the nexus of generational, cultural, racial, political and pandemic shifts. TL:DR: I’m tired, y’all and maybe you are too.
Don't miss the opportunity to connect with Darren on LinkedIn and check out his podcast, "Dreaming in Color," for more inspiring conversations.
Listen to Darren's Podcast: Dreaming in Color
Connect with Darren Isom on LinkedIn
"The easiest way to disrupt a broken narrative is to create one and tell one that is more compelling and more beautiful." - Darren

#242 - How to Use Chat GPT for Fundraising with Robby Fowler
In today's episode, we have a special guest joining us: Robby Fowler. Together, we'll explore the game-changing potential of ChatGPT in the world of fundraising. ChatGPT, powered by OpenAI, is an AI language model that's creating waves in the fundraising landscape. Nonprofits, listen up! Get ready to unlock the true power of ChatGPT and take your fundraising efforts to new heights. Picture this: 🖼️ Donors engage with your organization like never before. ChatGPT enables personalized interactions, where donors can ask questions and receive tailored responses in real-time. It's like having a 24/7 assistant at their fingertips. Campaign planning just got a major boost! ChatGPT becomes your brainstorming buddy, refining your strategies through interactive chats. Fresh ideas and concepts are just a conversation away, empowering you to create impactful campaigns. Prospecting made easy! 🎯 ChatGPT leverages its data-processing abilities to identify potential donors and provide valuable insights. It's like having a prospect research expert right by your side, guiding you towards fundraising success. Say goodbye to mundane tasks! ChatGPT automates routine activities such as follow-ups and acknowledgment emails. This time-saving feature allows you to focus on building meaningful relationships with donors, amplifying your fundraising efforts. Ready to revolutionize your fundraising efforts with AI? Don't miss out on my ChatGPT bundle, available at Chat GPT for fundraising: https://learn.rheawong.com/courses/ch... To connect with Robby and get his Chat GPT course, visit: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robbyfowler/ "The fact that you can just crank out mediocre content is not necessarily a win for fundraising, nor for your donor if you actually want to serve them" - Robby

#241 - Non-boring Events for Nonprofits with Joey Goone
Welcome to a captivating conversation with Joey Goone, an expert in creating connective fundraising events for nonprofits. With a unique blend of event planning and neuroscience, Joey reveals the remarkable role our brains play in designing transformative experiences. Get ready to be inspired as we explore the power of emotional connections and the art of crafting unforgettable events.
Key Points:
- Power of Connective Fundraising Events:
Unleash the potential of fundraising events that go beyond raising funds. Joey Goone emphasizes the importance of fostering a sense of community and emotional bonding. These events create lasting connections and drive increased donor retention and support. - Neuroscience and Event Design:
Discover the science behind impactful event design. Joey Goone leverages neuroscience to elicit positive emotions, shaping experiences that resonate deeply with attendees. Through storytelling, sensory engagement, and personalization, events become transformative moments. - Storytelling and Emotional Engagement:
Stories have the power to inspire empathy and forge strong emotional connections. Joey emphasizes authentic storytelling, sharing personal narratives of beneficiaries and supporters. Crafting a narrative arc ensures active engagement and emotional investment. - Sensory Engagement and Memory:
Immerse attendees in a world of sensory richness. Joey reveals how engaging multiple senses creates unforgettable experiences. By incorporating music, lighting, and interactive elements, events leave a lasting imprint on memory and emotion.
Joey Goone's expertise in connective fundraising events is a game-changer. Neuroscience-driven design creates events that ignite deep connections and drive support. Join us as we explore the transformative potential of events that leave a lasting impact.
Contact:
Joey Goone
Email: joey@utopiaexperience.com
LinkedIn: Joey Goone - https://www.linkedin.com/in/joey-goone-58225758/
Resource:
"You're Invited" by John Levy - https://a.co/d/0q223vy
"When the mind stops speaking, the heart starts listening" - Joey

Special Scaling Series #3: Secrets to Unlocking Donors
Join me and Brooke Richie-Babbage on an electrifying podcast episode as we spill the beans on how to discover new donors, create ideal donor avatars , unleash the power of your board in fundraising , and craft a compelling donor message!
We share insider tips and tricks for unlocking the secret to finding passionate supporters who align with your mission and are ready to fuel your organization's success . From donor profiling to engaging your board, we got you covered!
But wait, there's more! Take our exclusive quiz to uncover your ultimate ideal donor match and get ready to amplify your fundraising game! Just click here to find out: https://quiz.tryinteract.com/#/64500527cd8e2a001492799d
Plus, don't forget to check out our "Fund Your Strategic Vision" resource, where you'll discover innovative strategies and tools to turn your dreams into a reality. Get started on your fundraising journey today by clicking here: https://resources.brookerichiebabbage.com/fund-your-strategic-vision2023/
Get your headphones ready, your pens poised, and let us ignite your fundraising prowess like never before!

#240 - Unlocking Performance with David Meltzer
In this episode, I interviewed David Meltzer, co-founder of Sports One Marketing and bestselling author. We talked about shifting from scarcity to abundance. David emphasized the importance of embracing abundance, conquering fears, and appreciating what we have. He shared practical strategies like focusing on what we want, surrounding ourselves with like-minded individuals, and adding value first when fundraising. If you're interested, reach out to David at david@davidmeltzer.com to join his community and learn more.
Stay tuned for more insightful episodes of Nonprofit Lowdown! 🎧✨
"Be Kind To Your Future Self" - David

Special Scale Episode #2: Unleashing Nonprofit Growth: Internal Pillars & Infrastructure Secrets! 💥💼
Join me and Brooke Richie Babbage as we reveal the 🔑 to nonprofit growth. Get ready for an enlightening discussion on strategic vision 🌟, strong teams 💪, efficient systems 📊, and optimized fundraising workflows 📈.
🔍 Discover the power of a crystal-clear mission and vision statement. Set the course for success!
💪 Build a robust team and embrace strong governance. It's not just about hiring!
📊 Streamline your systems for maximum efficiency and effectiveness. Automate, measure, and refine!
💼 Optimize fundraising workflows and harness the potential of CRM tools. Maximize donor engagement and revenue!
Unlock the hidden potential within your nonprofit. 🚀
Take this quiz to see how to take it to the next level: https://quiz.tryinteract.com/#/64500527cd8e2a001492799d
Get ready to scale your nonprofit to new heights! Hit that play button now and embark on a transformative journey. 💥💼

Special Scaling Episode #1: Personal Mindset Shifts to Scale
Join me and my biz bestie Brooke Richie-Babbage 🤝 in a transformative episode as we reveal the secret connection between leader 🌟 and money 💸 mindsets. ⏳ This is the first of a special three part series on scaling
Ready to propel your nonprofit's growth to new heights? 🚀 Discover game-changing strategies and mindset shifts to break free from limitations! Take our exclusive online quiz 📝🔗 for personalized recommendations: richiebabbage.com/fysv
Empower yourself with the tools, strategies, and motivation needed to transform your nonprofit's future. 🌟 Don't miss out! Hit that play button and unlock your true potential today! ⚡
Link to the quiz: richiebabbage.com/fysv
Scale your nonprofit and make a lasting impact! 🌍💥 Unleash your organization's full potential now! 💪💰

#239 - How to find more donor prospects with Andrew Olsen
How many times have you asked where to find new donors?
Maybe that’s the wrong question.
Today, Andrew Olsen joins us to discuss acquiring donors through inbound strategies. Did you know your potential donor's attention span is only 8 seconds? Let's make those seconds count!
🎯 Inbound Strategies: Create valuable content, optimize your website, and engage on social media to attract donors organically.
⚡ The 8-Second Challenge: Capture attention with captivating headlines, visuals, and concise messaging.
💡 Crafting Irresistible Content: Use storytelling to connect with donors' emotions and motivations.
🌐 Optimizing Your Online Presence: Optimize your website and ensure it's mobile-friendly.
📣 Social Media Magic: Leverage social media platforms for authentic connections and storytelling.
For more insights, connect with Andrew Olsen on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewolsen/
"If we don't have thoughtful experiences for our supporters that mirror the way that they like to buy in the rest of their lives, we are going to end up losing out" - Andrew

#238 - AAPI Leadership with Ronald Rapatalo
Friends, join me and my brother from another mother Ron Rapatalo to talk all about the Asian things.
In this riveting podcast episode, the incredible Ron Rapatalo chats about being a leading advocate for AAPI representation, allyship, and girl dadhood. Ron, a visionary author of "Leverage People: What I Know About People to Personally and Professionally Win," shared his enlightening views on AAPI invisibility, collaborating with other BIPOC leaders, embracing fatherhood, and finding inspiration in Elsa. Join us as we delve into Ron's powerful insights and connect with him on LinkedIn at Ron Rapatalo LinkedIn and grab a copy of his book on Amazon.
"People have to earn the full dimensionality and vulnerability of who you are" - Ronald

(ENCORE) #99-Decolonizing Philanthropy with Jenn Ching
In honor of AAPI Heritage month, I’m replaying some of my favorite episodes from AAPI leaders. This episode with North Star Fund’s Jennifer Ching is a personal fave. Enjoy!
Join me and Northstar Fund's Executive Director Jennifer Ching to discuss decolonizing philanthropy. In this hugely important conversation, Jen shares how the work of the Northstar Fund is actively working towards dismantling white supremacy and power and centering the work and decision-making of BIPOC activists. By recasting our own relationship and assumptions about money, we can engage in becoming resource mobilizers, not "fundraisers." We also touch on the nonprofit and philanthropic industrial complex that is predicated on power, control and lack of transparency. What does it mean to be a community-led, community-centered philanthropist? How can we meet this moment at the intersection of race, power, money and action in our own lives and as leaders of organizations? This is a thought-provoking and high-octane conversation with one of my faves!
For more about NorthStar Fund: https://northstarfund.org/
For more about Decolonizing Wealth: https://www.decolonizingwealth.com/

#237 - Ask Me Anything (AMA) with Me
In honor of AAPI heritage month, we’re featuring AAPI guests. This week’s guest is…me! I’m trying out a new monthly feature called Ask Me Anything (AMA) to answer your fundraising queries. Let me know what you think (hello@rheawong.com).
In this week’s episode, I discuss how to know when to hire a Development Director, ways to get started with an individual fundraising program and how to do first approaches to foundations.
Enjoy!
"Development Directors are not magical fairies who fart gold out of their butts." - Rhea

#236 - Money Mindset with Yulin Ling
Friends, I am OBSESSED with this episode with Yulin Ling. As a long-time nonprofit executive and social change warrior, we talk about the importance of money mindset in raising money for the cause. Yulin discusses her own background as a daughter of immigrants and how we tune into what is possible and how to flood ourselves with the messages that we want. In a world that feels like it’s full of despair, Yulin teaches us how to harness the power of our minds and mindsets to be the light and the bridges that the world needs. Do yourself a favor and listen to this one a few times!
For more about Yulin: Home
"Our one and only job in the world is providing hope to everyone else" - Yulin

#235 - Real Estate Opportunities for Nonprofits with Stephen Powers and Amy Lawrence
Join us for a fascinating conversation with Stephen Powers, co-founder of Open Impact Real Estate, and Amy Lawrence, managing director, as they share their expertise on the intersection of real estate and social impact.
In today’s turbulent real estate market, it can be hard to know what to do, especially with big-ticket real estate decisions. Join me, Stephen Powers and Amy Lawrence to learn how nonprofits can be opportunistic with commercial real estate, how to take advantage of this moment and how to access special financing. This is a fascinating conversation about an intimidating topic.
This episode is sponsored by Open Impact Real Estate: https://openregroup.com/
Connect with Stephen Powers: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stephen-powers-9a158b8/
Connect with Amy Lawrence: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amy-lawrence-5009552/
“Take advantage of this environment and dream big.” - Stephen Powers

#234 - How to Use Video to Amplify Your Work with Aron Murch
Aron also stressed the importance of producing high-quality videos that showcase the organization's mission and impact. His tips and tricks for creating compelling video content are sure to be useful for nonprofits looking to take their fundraising to the next level.
If you're interested in learning more about how Aron and 2H Media can help your nonprofit leverage the power of video, don't hesitate to drop him an email at aron@2h.media.
"Human storytelling will set you apart" - Aron

#233 - 4 Social Ads all Nonprofits Should Have with Dana Snyder
In our chat with Dana Snyder, she shared four paid ads that nonprofits should run. Here they are: Reach, Video Views, Lead Generation, and Conversions.
Reach is all about getting more eyes on your cause. Video Views means creating great video content to engage supporters. Lead Generation is for collecting contact information from potential donors, and Conversions is all about getting people to take specific actions, like donating or volunteering.
Want to learn more about these ad types? Check out Dana's website at
Dana Snyder | Positive Equation - Digital Marketing for Nonprofits for tips and tricks to help your nonprofit succeed!
"What's an exchange of value you can offer?" - Dana

#232 - Starting a Planned Giving Program with Tony Martignetti
In this episode, we chat with Tony Martignetti, an expert in planned giving programs. Planned giving is a way for everyday people to make a big impact on their favorite nonprofits by giving a gift through their will or estate. Tony shares his insights on what makes a successful planned giving program and how organizations can get started without a lot of resources or technical expertise. He also recommends the Planned Giving Accelerator, an online course that offers a step-by-step guide to creating a successful program.
Check out the Planned Giving Accelerator at plannedgivingaccelerator.com
"Don't think that planned giving is only for your wealthy donors." - Tony

#231 - Should You Do a Capital Campaign in an Uncertain Economy with Amy Eisenstein
My guest, Amy Eisenstein, a fundraising consultant, author, and speaker, shares her expertise on why you SHOULD consider a capital campaign during uncertain times.
Amy explains that a capital campaign is a focused fundraising effort to raise a significant amount of money for a specific project or initiative, and it's crucial for nonprofits to achieve their long-term goals and expand their impact. She then goes on to explain that launching a capital campaign during economic uncertainty, like the current pandemic, may seem counterintuitive, but it can actually be a strategic move. Amy explains how nonprofits can use this time to build stronger relationships with donors and demonstrate their resilience.
To learn more about capital campaigns and how to launch one for your nonprofit, visit the Capital Campaign Pro website: https://capitalcampaignpro.com/
"When there's a will, there's a way." - Amy

#230 - Unlocking Social Progress by Addressing Structural Racism with Britt Savage
In this episode, we are joined by Britt Savage, a diversity, equity, and inclusion consultant who shares insights on the report "Unlocking Social Progress by Addressing Structural Racism" by Bridgespan Group. We discuss the findings of the report, its implications, and how organizations can address structural racism to unlock social progress.
Key Takeaways:
-The report identifies how structural racism hinders social progress and the need to address it.
-Structural racism operates within systems and institutions and can be invisible to those who are not directly impacted by it.
-Organizations need to acknowledge their role in perpetuating structural racism and take steps to address it.
-The report highlights specific actions organizations can take to address structural racism, including hiring practices, organizational culture, and community engagement.
-Organizations need to commit to long-term, sustained efforts to address structural racism and create meaningful change.
"Unlocking Social Progress by Addressing Structural Racism" report: Unlocking Social Progress by Addressing Structural Racism
Britt Savage's LinkedIn page: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brittsavage/
"What if we really gave people the capital they needed?" - Britt Savage

#229 -How to learn through interviews - Pooya Pourak
In this episode, Pooya Pourak, a design strategist, shares how human-centered design principles can be used to create meaningful connections with donors during the interview process. By focusing on curiosity and connection, nonprofits can build trust and rapport with donors, uncover their motivations, and create customized engagement plans that align with their values. Pooya also shares tips for making the donor interview process more engaging and enjoyable. Overall, this episode emphasizes the importance of using human-centered design to build deeper relationships with donors and create more effective fundraising strategies. To connect with Pooya: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pooyapourak/ "It's not research, it's engagement" - Pooya Pourak

#228 - Sustaining Happiness with Dr Ellen Wong
I had the pleasure of interviewing Dr. Ellen Wong, a naturopathic doctor and happiness expert.
During our conversation, Dr. Wong emphasized the importance of understanding that happiness is not a destination, but rather something you create. We also discussed the importance of self-care and self-compassion in achieving happiness. Dr. Wong stressed that taking care of yourself, both physically and emotionally, is crucial for your overall well-being. She also emphasized the importance of being kind to yourself and treating yourself with the same compassion and understanding that you would offer to a close friend.
Finally, Dr. Wong offered some practical tips for cultivating happiness in your everyday life. These included:
✅ Making time for hobbies and activities that bring you joy.
✅ Surround yourself with positive and supportive people.
✅ Practicing mindfulness and meditation to help you stay present at the moment.
✅ Setting realistic goals and celebrating your accomplishments, no matter how small they may seem.
To learn more about Dr. Wong and her upcoming Happiness Summit, visit her website at Dr. Ellen Wong, ND - Chief Happiness & Well-Being Officer. https://drellenwong.com/
"Productivity is not about doing more things" - Dr. Ellen Wong
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#227 - So you want to consult with Tom Pyun
Welcome to the podcast where we talk to successful consultants in various industries. Today we are joined by Tom Pyun, a former nonprofit leader who transitioned to consulting. Tom is here to share his experience on why he decided to become a consultant, how he got his clients, and how he dealt with imposter syndrome.
He shares his strategies for getting clients, including networking, leveraging social media, and creating a personal brand. He shares his thoughts on who is best suited to consulting, highlighting the importance of diverse skills, adaptability, communication, and a strong work ethic.
To learn more about Tom and his consulting services, you can visit his website at www.tompyunconsulting.com or connect with him on LinkedIn at www.linkedin.com/in/tompyun/. If you enjoyed this podcast, please subscribe and leave a review.
"Work to live, not live to work" - Tom Pyun

#226 - GRIT (Getting Results in Transition) Program with Suzi Epstein and Kim DiPalo
Calling all New York based nonprofits!
In this episode, we speak with Suzi Epstein, Senior Program Officer at the Robin Hood Foundation, and Kim DiPalo, Director of Development and Communications at Drive Change, about the GRIT program. Applications due March 15!
Listen and learn about:
- What is the GRIT program?
- How does the GRIT program work?
- What impact has the GRIT program had?
- How can you, the listeners apply to the GRIT program!
GRIT Program: https://www.robinhood.org/program/grit/
Robin Hood Foundation: https://www.robinhood.org/
Drive Change: https://www.drivechangenyc.org/
Quote: "Everything old is new again"

#225 - Afrofuturism and Fundraising with Miranda Ling
In this episode, we talk to Miranda Ling, Director of Advancement for 826 Valencia, about how they use Afrofuturism to help raise funds. Miranda explains what Afrofuturism is and how it can be used as a tool to challenge mainstream narratives and inspire new ways of thinking about the future. They share their experiences incorporating Afrofuturism into their fundraising strategies and how it has helped them engage with donors in a meaningful way. If you're interested in innovative fundraising techniques and the power of Afrofuturism, this episode is a must-listen!
To connect with Miranda: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mirandashepherd/
To watch Miranda's afrofuturist film-noir: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dry8z6UhZtU&feature=youtu.be (The Lavender Files | Ep. 1 From Dusk)
Some of Miranda's author recommendations:
Octavia Butler
NK Jemisin
Tomi Adeyemi
Quote from Miranda "It's not what we're fighting against, it's what we're fighting for"

#224 - Why Major Donor Processes Suck and What to Do Instead with Greg Warner
Join me and one of my favorite repeat guests Greg Warner, CEO of Marketsmart. In this episode, we unpack so much of what is wrong with so-called "best practices" in fundraising and why administrators make fundraisers' lives so difficult. We talk about ways to talk with donors when they are ready and have indicated their willingness to talk to us and how to structure investment-level conversations. Get your pens out to take some serious notes.
To connect with Greg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gregmarketsmart/
To download Greg's invitation samples, visit: https://go.rheawong.com/invitation
QUOTE from Greg "When thinking about a cause, the area of the brain that lights up is the same one when we think about family or love."

#223 - Negotiating like a Hostage Negotiator with Troy Smith
Today, we're talking about a really cool topic - using hostage negotiation tactics in fundraising. Our guest today is none other than Troy Smith, a seasoned hostage negotiator who's going to share his expertise with us.
We'll dive into what hostage negotiation is, how the principles of it can be applied to fundraising, and the key takeaways that fundraisers need to keep in mind when using these techniques. Troy even gives us some practical tips to get started, so you won't want to miss this one!
Trust us, this episode 🎙 is packed with actionable advice and insider knowledge from someone who knows how to get what they want in high-pressure situations. So, grab a pen and paper and get ready to take some notes.
To learn more about the Black Swan Group: https://www.blackswanltd.com/
To connect with Troy: https://www.linkedin.com/in/troy-smith-6375298/
QUOTE from Troy "Be curious, not judgemental"

#222 - DAFs and Crypto Donations with Alexis Miller
In this interview, I talk about Donor-Advised Funds or DAFs and crypto donations with Alexis Miller, who is the donor engagement and strategic partnerships lead at Endaoment.
Listen to this entire podcast episode if you want to know more about NFTs, DAOs, and a lot more interesting topics of cryptocurrencies in the nonprofit space. Alexis will help everyone understand these concepts related to crypto, how they work, and how you can help those who are interested in crypto to get involved in supporting what you do in the nonprofit community. On top of that, Alexis also shares her thoughts about the controversy of DAFs and payouts.
A lot more of this in this episode, so tune in!
To connect with Alexis: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexis-miller-880b2160/
To learn more about EnDAOment: https://endaoment.org/
QUOTES from Alexis "Crypto donors aren't reading newsletters"

#221 - East Coast vs. West Coast fundraising with Adam Michael and Marvin Vilma
In this episode, Adam Michael Royston and Marvin Vilma are back and they're diving into the hot topic of East Coast vs. West Coast fundraising. These two fundraising experts have a wealth of experience between them, and they're bringing their unique perspectives to the table to give listeners a deeper understanding of the differences and similarities between fundraising on opposite coasts.
From the fast-paced hustle of New York City to the tech-heavy vibe of San Francisco, Adam Michael and Marvin will take listeners on a journey through the fundraising landscape of the East and West Coasts. They'll share their own personal experiences, as well as insights and actionable tips for listeners looking to raise money in either region. Whether you're a seasoned fundraiser or just starting out, this episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in the world of fundraising and all its vagaries.
To connect with Adam Michael: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adam-michael-royston-cfre-/
To connect with Marvin Vilma: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mvilma/
QUOTE "I know nonprofit fundraisers who put Burning Man in their budget"

#220 - Exponential Growth with Yamilee Toussaint Beach
In this delightful podcast episode, Yamilee Toussaint Beach shares her wealth of knowledge and experience in scaling up her nonprofit STEM from Dance. She explains how having a clear mission and vision, strong leadership, and a dedicated team are essential for any nonprofit looking to grow.
One of the key takeaways from the episode is the importance of investment in skills building for leaders.
Yamilee's personal experience of scaling up STEM from Dance will help you to think about how to invest your resources, how to manage your time and what not to sacrifice as you grow.
To learn more about STEM from Dance, visit: https://stemfromdance.org/
To connect with Yamilee: https://www.linkedin.com/in/yamilee-toussaint-beach/
QUOTE FROM Yamilee "I don't want to sacrifice the culture for the growth."

#219 - Listening + Speaking with Intent with Jason Frazell
In this interview with Jason Frazell, we discuss the three levels of listening and how they can impact our ability to connect with others, particularly in the context of fundraising.
Listen in to find out the difference between pretend listening, active listening, and energetic listening.
We also discuss how the need to be right or how operating in scarcity can keep us in a transactional, not relational state.
To learn more about Jason Frazell and his work on listening and connection, visit his website at https://www.jasonfrazell.com/
QUOTE FROM JASON "Pay attention when the words do not align with a person's energy"

#218 - Stop the Nonprofit Blame Game with Hardy Smith
Happy 2023 everyone! 🎇
To start off our year right, join me and Hardy Smith to discuss his book Stop the Nonprofit Blame Game. Hardy and I touch on some of the hot-button 🔴 issues like why board members don't do what they're supposed to do (i.e. fundraising), what the role of the governance and fundraising committees are and how board chairs manage (or don't) in real life. This is an eye-opening interview and I hope it inspires us all to go forth and manage our boards better.
To check out Hardy's book and other work: https://www.hardysmith.com/
Quote from Hardy "Board members tell me that they don't feel listened to"

#217 - Top 10 Fundraising Trends in 2023 with Rhea Wong
We are in our very last week of 2022 and I think we can all agree, it has been a lot. After the upheaval of the pandemic, I feel like life is back to normal-ish. And what I've been hearing from a lot of you is that you are feeling really tired and so that you find some time at the end of the year to enjoy it with your friends and family.
Here's a fun way to wrap up our year, I have decided to put on my prognostication hat and discuss some of the Top 10 trends that I see for fundraising in 2023, listen now!
Have a happy, healthy, safe and restful, joyful time and I will see you in 2023! Take care 🐶 Happy holidays 🎄

#216 -Coaching for BIPOC leaders with Glasa Gottschalk
Happy holidays, friends. As we wind down, I wanted to give you the gift of this podcast episode with my dear friend Glasa Gottschalk. Glasa is a coach who specializes in working with women of color. We talk about Glasa's own professional journey, how coaching is different than therapy, how coaching can help you progress in your career and in life and how to make the case to hire a coach.
Glasa is thoughtful, wise and brings a healing energy to the conversation. This was such a delight and I hope it brings you much joy and wisdom in the final days of 2022.
To connect with Glasa, check out: https://www.gotogii.com/
Quote from Glasa "Coaching is a space where you want to be able to be 100, there's no sugarcoating here"

#215 - Doing Board DEIAB Work Right with Christal Cherry and Renee Rubin Ross
Join me and my guests Christal Cherry and Renee Rubin Ross to talk about doing DEIAB work right. Often our boards lag behind the efforts of the staff and this dynamic duo helps to bring your board up to speed on issues of equity and inclusion. We talk about the myth of diversity vs. wealth, how to work with folks who don't think they have a problem and their tactics to start boards on this work. We get into the nitty gritty of time commitment, cost and eventual transformation. We left no stone unturned!
To learn more about Christal: www.theboardpro.com
To learn more about Renee: www.therosscollective.com
To learn more about their framework: equityinthecenter.org/aww
Fund Your Strategic Vision: https://brookerichie-babbage.lpages.co/fund-your-strategic-vision/?ck_subscriber_id=1199983809&utm_source=convertkit&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Not+for+me...%20-%209617030#featuresservices-1
Quote from Christal "This whole myth about people of color not having the money to serve on boards or not having the resources or the connections needs to go"

#214 - Tips for Community Building with Mitch Stein
Join me and co-founder of Pond, Mitch Stein, to talk about the power of community building, the role of trust in doing business with nonprofits and what pink sherbert has to do with marketing.
Mitch is the founder of the online platform Pond that helps nonprofits and consultants connect. Part of his journey was building trusting and authentic relationships when trust was not a given. Join us to hear what he's learned about building community and how you can apply it to your work.
To connect with Mitch: Pond
To connect with Mitch: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mitchsteinpond/
Quote from Mitch: "Brand IS happening whether you're intentional about it or not"
To find the Mom Test: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hla1jzhan78
To sign up for Fund Your Strategic Vision visit: https://brookerichie-babbage.lpages.co/fund-your-strategic-vision/

#213 - Tapping into the Power of Gen Z with Meghana Gunturi
When I get depressed about the future and the state of the world, I want you to listen to this podcast episode. Meghana Gunturi is an enterprising 16-year-old who runs four clubs, is a full-time student, and has successfully launched an international nonprofit. Join me and Meghana as we talk about how to leverage the power of Gen Z, how nonprofits can start to work with Gen Z, and what the heck you do with influencers.
This was a delightful episode and it made me a little less anxious if the future is in the hand of Meghana and her generation.
To learn more about Meghana's nonprofit: www.neurodiversityhorizons.com/
Follow on Instagram: www.instagram.com/neurodiversity_horizons
Quote from Meghana: "We genuinely believe that there is a lot to be changed in the world, and that age is really just the number"

#212 - Asking Styles with Brian Saber
Man oh man, do I love a good quiz. Chalk it up to my being of the YM generation 📣 (shout out to my Gen X'ers!)
Join me and Brian Saber to deconstruct your Asking Style. Did you know that there are four kinds and that you have a primary and secondary style? Learn more about your strengths and how to partner with others to compensate for your weaknesses. This is a really fun conversation that helps to demystify some of the dynamics of asking.
To take the quiz, visit: quiz.askingmatters.com
To connect with Brian: briansaber.com
Quote from Brian: "I ask permission to ask"

#211 - Monthly Giving Programs and Donor Retention with Erika Carley
Join me and my friend Erika Carley, AKA Queen of Monthly Giving to learn about Chive Charities and their incredible monthly giving program. 4K monthly donors, 98% month-over-month retention rate. Need I say more?
Erika shares how to design, manage and grow a monthly giving program. We talk about her best strategies, what she's learned, and how there is no silver bullet to making people feel cared for.
To connect with Erika, visit: https://www.linkedin.com/in/erika-carley123/
To visit Chive Charities to see the storytelling in action: https://chivecharities.org/
Quote from Erika: " When starting offering monthly giving levels, start small but don't end small."

#210 - How to be grant ready with Gauri Manglik
The world of obtaining funds through grants can be so confusing and time-consuming. Between prospect research, developing relationships, grant writing, and stewardship, it can feel overwhelming. Join me in today's session with Gauri Manglik, Co-Founder of Instrumentl, to discuss trends she's seeing, how to be grant-ready and how her platform might help streamline the process.
For my listeners, Instrumentl is offering a special three-week trial and $50 off your first month. Visit instrumentl.com, code: LOWDOWN50
Quote from Gauri: "We recommend trying to submit at least two grants a month"
Connect with Gauri
Linkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/gaurimanglik

#209 - Surviving To Thriving As A Leader with Emily Frieze-Kemeny
For all my peeps in the nonprofit world, leadership in the last few years has been...a lot.
Between the pandemic, national racial reckoning, economic turbulence, remote working, and staff feelings, it ain't easy out here in these streets.
Join me and organizational consultant and healer Emily Frieze-Kemeny to talk about how we progress without losing our minds and our well-being. We discuss the challenges of leading in the last couple of years, how to draw healthy boundaries with our teams, and simple strategies to ground yourselves.
This interview 🎙 is like a therapy session for the soul.
Visit her website 🌐 www.arosegroup.com
Connect with her 🔗 www.linkedin.com/in/emily-frieze-kemeny
Quote from Emily: "The only reason we'd be scared to be vulnerable is if we think we're not good enough."