no proof

Andrew is local to Columbus, Oh the city I call home. I met him via Instagram after he took home one of the meditation cards I created for a Dry January event earlier this year. He asked himself the questions, and answered them through a social media post revealing some things to himself out loud. It was great to hear Andrew's story, and to hear the ways he checks in with himself to keep feeling his best. Andrew Hash was a daily drinker whose whiskey "hobby" became an unhealthy coping mechanism for any inconvenience life presented.  Andrew has been a pharmacy purchaser for 10 years and an avid sports fan.  Sobriety has brought him back to his passions and allowed him to stop sleepwalking through life. Founded in 2016, the mission of Ben's Friends is to offer hope, fellowship, and a path forward to anyone who struggles with substance abuse or addiction. By coming together, starting a dialogue, and acknowledging that substance abuse cannot be overcome by isolation and willpower alone, Ben's Friends hopes to write a new chapter in the lives of food and beverage professionals across the country. To order my n/a enamel pin from Mover & Shaker, head to tinyurl.com/4fm6r9v6

Elizabeth is everything exciting with the n/a movement. She read a room, left it, and created a better one. In these rooms, you find excitement, noise, conversation, people enjoying themselves, and great non-alcoholic cocktails. I was thrilled to chat with Elizabeth, who recently took Absence of Proof full-time, and contributes more than just events to the community. Elizabeth Gascoigne is found and CEO of Absence of Proof- a non-acloholic event curation company and online bottle boutique. Elizabeth is passionate about creating social experiences for those taking a night, week, or lifetime off of drinking. Absence of Proof is rooted in wellness and community and focused on elevating an n/a nightlife for everyone. Founded in 2016, the mission of Ben's Friends is to offer hope, fellowship, and a path forward to anyone who struggles with substance abuse or addiction. By coming together, starting a dialogue, and acknowledging that substance abuse cannot be overcome by isolation and willpower alone, Ben's Friends hopes to write a new chapter in the lives of food and beverage professionals across the country. To order my n/a enamel pin from Mover & Shaker, head to tinyurl.com/4fm6r9v6

A chat with someone like Ian will always be refreshing. I was cooled by the way he spoke about his journey through sobriety, and held in a suspension in how exciting life can be when we reward ourselves with more time. Founded by two former French Laundry sommeliers—who quit drinking after they had kids—All The Bitter is a lineup of non-alcoholic cocktail bitters that lift the spirit. Made by hand from organic, wild-foraged, and functional botanicals in a process that takes nearly two months, our bitters elevate cocktails with and without alcohol, mixers like tonic and ginger beer, and are especially refreshing in sparkling water with a squeeze of citrus. Find us on social media @allthebitter and at allthebitter.com. Founded in 2016, the mission of Ben's Friends is to offer hope, fellowship, and a path forward to anyone who struggles with substance abuse or addiction. By coming together, starting a dialogue, and acknowledging that substance abuse cannot be overcome by isolation and willpower alone, Ben's Friends hopes to write a new chapter in the lives of food and beverage professionals across the country. To order my n/a enamel pin from Mover & Shaker, head to tinyurl.com/4fm6r9v6

I was looking forward to my conversation with Whitney not just because they were sent my way via our pal Laura Sanders, but because of what they contribute to the world. I'm fascinated by the humor and honesty that lies within their comics, and the way they play with the weight of the subject of sobriety. Please enjoy this conversation as much as I did. Whitney Wasson (they/them) is a multidisciplinary artist and performer, originally from Fort Smith, Arkansas who lives in Chicago. A standup comedian who produced a slew of shows, performed at dozens of comedy festivals across the country, and made thirties of dollars, Whitney got hit at a crosswalk by a distracted driver at the end of 2019. They then became a sitdown comedian and then a stay-at-home comedian during 2020. They're now mostly a cartoonist. They write and draw Sober Rabbit. Their art and comics have been featured in Chicago Reader, Weekly Humorist and various blogs and websites. They've created art for festivals, live events, feature films, comedy albums and even a few tattoos. FB: @soberrabbitcomic Twitter: @soberrabbit Instagram: @soberrabbit Founded in 2016, the mission of Ben's Friends is to offer hope, fellowship, and a path forward to anyone who struggles with substance abuse or addiction. By coming together, starting a dialogue, and acknowledging that substance abuse cannot be overcome by isolation and willpower alone, Ben's Friends hopes to write a new chapter in the lives of food and beverage professionals across the country. To order my n/a enamel pin from Mover & Shaker, head to tinyurl.com/4fm6r9v6

Chad and I share a few things: sobriety, running, a love for Jason Isbell, and our time at Eat Clean Run Dirty Magazine. I was excited to continue a conversation with Chad that we started during an editorial meeting recently. It was incredible to hear what it took to become honest, and begin a sober journey. We chat about the immense and supportive community that comes with ultra running, and how those in sobriety find their way to it. Chad Sullivan is a father, husband, writer, and ultra-runner living in suburban Chicago. He serves as the Executive Editor of Eat Clean, Run Dirty Magazine and is the creator of Hard Prairie, a website dedicated to the trail and ultra-running scene in Illinois. Having struggled with substance abuse for many years, Chad entered treatment in June 2020 and has remained sober since. Founded in 2016, the mission of Ben's Friends is to offer hope, fellowship, and a path forward to anyone who struggles with substance abuse or addiction. By coming together, starting a dialogue, and acknowledging that substance abuse cannot be overcome by isolation and willpower alone, Ben's Friends hopes to write a new chapter in the lives of food and beverage professionals across the country. To order my n/a enamel pin from Mover & Shaker, head to tinyurl.com/4fm6r9v6

A special thanks to Greg for being the final episode of no proof of 2022!  Such a great way to close out the year with a conversation about being hopeful, becoming your best self, and looking forward to bigger mountains and challenges. Greg is a Virginia resident who worked in the restaurant industry during college. After graduating from Boston University in 2019, he transitioned into working in the legal world as a paralegal/legal assistant. He is slated to attend law school in the near future. Founded in 2016, the mission of Ben's Friends is to offer hope, fellowship, and a path forward to anyone who struggles with substance abuse or addiction. By coming together, starting a dialogue, and acknowledging that substance abuse cannot be overcome by isolation and willpower alone, Ben's Friends hopes to write a new chapter in the lives of food and beverage professionals across the country. To order my n/a enamel pin from Mover & Shaker, head to tinyurl.com/4fm6r9v6

I was fortunate enough to meet Sarah through our mutual pal, and co-founder of focus on health, Alex Jump. Our conversation is an enlightening look at the journey many within the hospitality industry experience with alcohol, and sarah's efforts to change her path. I thank her for her honesty and for sharing her story. If ever in Chattanooga, stop in and say hello. Sarah Tuttle is an award-winning bartender who has been living sober for almost 6 years. She lives in Chattanooga, TN, where she is the lead bartender at the Rosecomb and runs an organic farm with her partner and their pittie. Founded in 2016, the mission of Ben's Friends is to offer hope, fellowship, and a path forward to anyone who struggles with substance abuse or addiction. By coming together, starting a dialogue, and acknowledging that substance abuse cannot be overcome by isolation and willpower alone, Ben's Friends hopes to write a new chapter in the lives of food and beverage professionals across the country. To order my n/a enamel pin from Mover & Shaker, head to tinyurl.com/4fm6r9v6

I'm fortunate to know someone like Derek Brown. His writing, books, and expertise have been influential in what shaped me as a bartender. I've learned recipes, techniques, and storytelling from someone like Derek, and now as I continue life without alcohol, he has found a new way to influence me. His own journey has afforded him the pause it took to look at the way his life was being lived and the decision to change it. It's incredible to see Derek take his new direction and do what he does best, understand the best he can for himself, and amplify his knowledge in the direction that helps others. Thank you for your time, path, journey, and willingness to share, Derek. I owe you so much. Derek is the founder of Positive Damage, Inc., a NASM-certified wellness coach, advocate for mindful drinking, and expert on no- and low-alcohol cocktails. He is also known as a cocktail pioneer, former owner of the prestigious Columbia Room in Washington, D.C. (2017 “Best American Cocktail Bar” at the Spirited Awards), and one of the nation’s top bartenders as Chief Spirits Advisor to the National Archives Foundation, which he jokes made him the highest-ranking bartender in the U.S. government. In 2017, Playboy magazine named Brown one of "The 10 Entertainers, Thought Leaders and Heroes Who'll Save Us in 2017." More recently, Brown was recognized as a leading beverage figure affecting positive change in the global bar industry by Drinks International in 2020 in their “Bar World 100” list. Brown changed his approach to drinking in 2018, realizing he had a problem with alcohol. At first, he wasn’t sure how to approach drinking with his new concerns. He subsequently released his first book, Spirits, Sugar, Water, Bitters: How the Cocktail Conquered the World in 2019. He then decided it was time to be open about his struggles with alcohol and addressed his new appreciation for mindful drinking in a 2020 Vox article entitled, “Becoming a ‘mindful drinker’ changed my life.” Shortly after, Brown published Mindful Mixology: a Comprehensive Guide to No- and Low-Alcohol Cocktails, pursued his certification in wellness through the National Association of Sports Medicine (NASM), and began to study positive psychology at the University of Pennsylvania. He wanted to understand how happiness and vitality affect our approach to drinking, and how simple interventions can improve our relationship with alcohol. Brown is now working to help foster a culture of mindful drinking and make room for everyone at the bar with delicious no- and low-alcohol drinks. He lives in Washington, D.C. with his family, skateboards and plays chess. Link: positivedamageinc.com Book: https://bookshop.org/p/books/mindful-mixology-a-comprehensive-guide-to-no-and-low-alcohol-cocktails-with-60-recipes-derek-brown/17384545?ean=9780847871278 Founded in 2016, the mission of Ben's Friends is to offer hope, fellowship, and a path forward to anyone who struggles with substance abuse or addiction. By coming together, starting a dialogue, and acknowledging that substance abuse cannot be overcome by isolation and willpower alone, Ben's Friends hopes to write a new chapter in the lives of food and beverage professionals across the country. To order my n/a enamel pin from Mover & Shaker, head to tinyurl.com/4fm6r9v6

Before I met Rudy, I had sipped both versions of Parch, a n/a canned cocktail, and quickly became a super fan. The mix gave me pause when I sipped, and unlike many citrus, sugar, and soda combinations I've had in the past, this cocktail built a picture in my mind. I had to know more. Meeting Rudy has been fulfilling in so many beautiful ways. I was thrilled to discover he's also a passionate runner, and that he too uses his trots as a form of meditation. I'm thankful for the time he spent telling his story in this episode, and I've included some great links for charitable donations that are associated with some of the things we touch on in our chat. I can't say enough good things about Rudy or about Parch, so please enjoy this episode, and please see for yourself how delicious the two cocktails are. Rudy Aldana is the Co-Founder & CEO for Parch non-alcoholic agave-based cocktails and spirits. A 14-year DIAGEO veteran, worked across multiple geographies (Canada, Europe, USA), and most recently was the Diageo North America Director for Agave Based Spirits based in New York City. As a health & wellness advocate and a Cancer survivor, Rudy firmly believes in offering premium and better-for-you alternatives for all adult drinking occasions. For more info and buy PARCH online, please visit www.drinkparch.com or PARCH at Amazon or get in touch: hello@drinkparch.com For information on the Mission Garden and its work on indigenous Tucsonian agriculture. https://www.missiongarden.org For some Non-Alc retailers supporters of PARCH: Curiosity SLC Spirited Away Alt Bar The Open Road Boisson Sechèy Umbrella Dry Drinks Free Spirits CLE The New Bar Dryspokes Minus Moonshine Beverly Dry Goods Soft Spirits For cancer research support, kindly follow this link to support the FRED’s Team, Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center Fundraising running team for the annual NYC Marathon Donate here: 100% of proceeds go to fund cancer research at MSKCC Founded in 2016, the mission of Ben's Friends is to offer hope, fellowship, and a path forward to anyone who struggles with substance abuse or addiction. By coming together, starting a dialogue, and acknowledging that substance abuse cannot be overcome by isolation and willpower alone, Ben's Friends hopes to write a new chapter in the lives of food and beverage professionals across the country. To order my n/a enamel pin from Mover & Shaker, head to tinyurl.com/4fm6r9v6

I was glad to have had this chat with Geo. We met at Camp Runamok where I got to see his personality on full display, a character, someone you like to be around. One day on social media I noticed Geo sharing updates from a hospital. It wasn't my business to pry, so I followed along and watched as a man hospitalized started his epic comeback. Now, his sharing is in the form of gym selfies, and positivity. This was my first time hearing of Geo's epic bounce back and the man he'd get to become. Thanks for your honesty, Geo. Geo Thompson, a Boston hospitality professional “lifer” having scraped the plates clean of the multitudes who have passed through his time serving and managing chain restaurants, music venues, and elite private clubs of this old city, now reflects on a long career of what ifs and what lays ahead through a new lens of sobriety, and a new lease on life after nearly losing it all. Founded in 2016, the mission of Ben's Friends is to offer hope, fellowship, and a path forward to anyone who struggles with substance abuse or addiction. By coming together, starting a dialogue, and acknowledging that substance abuse cannot be overcome by isolation and willpower alone, Ben's Friends hopes to write a new chapter in the lives of food and beverage professionals across the country. To order my n/a enamel pin from Mover & Shaker, head to tinyurl.com/4fm6r9v6

Jackie and I grew up relatively close to each other, but we didn't meet until we both lived in Columbus. It's almost strange to think now, that two people could live such parallel moments in their individual lives so close to each other without those moments ever meeting. Jackie is in her sixth year of sobriety, and I in my fifth, and this was the first time we chatted about it. It's truly great to chat through the growth that is possible, the revelation of a life that's right in front of your eyes, and how beautiful it is when you finally pay attention. Thanks for your time, Jackie. Jackie Mantey is a writer and artist who lives in Chicago. One month into sobriety, Jackie began a visual art practice that includes hand embroidery on found and historical photographs. Six years later, she’s still sober and still making embroidery art, which she exhibits around Chicago and sells in her online shop. Founded in 2016, the mission of Ben's Friends is to offer hope, fellowship, and a path forward to anyone who struggles with substance abuse or addiction. By coming together, starting a dialogue, and acknowledging that substance abuse cannot be overcome by isolation and willpower alone, Ben's Friends hopes to write a new chapter in the lives of food and beverage professionals across the country. To order my n/a enamel pin from Mover & Shaker, head to tinyurl.com/4fm6r9v6

I met Steven Gonzalez during a virtual portion of the Patrón Perfectionists cocktail competition. He was genuine, suave, had a good story, and a good drink. Many put on faces or fronts when competing, but when I met Steven in person I met the same, soft, personable person from the video. I didn't know at the time that he also didn't drink. I loved this opportunity to sit with Steven and chat about our decision to love an industry fully while removing what some would think is a crucial portion of it. We chat about the opportunity that life provides when you give yourself more space to grow, and more grace to act upon. We cover what it takes to live a life without alcohol and stand upon a global stage as yourself, with no liquid courage, just the things you've built. In this episode, we laugh about being met with clichés and learning to embrace them. Thanks for your passion, and your genuine approach to life, Steven. Steven Gonzalez is a Colombian-born bartender who moved to NYC in the early 2000s where he found his love for hospitality. After years of being part of the industry, he decided to make positive changes in his life for his health, finances, and family. He has been sober for almost three years and believes it has been the best decision he could have made. Founded in 2016, the mission of Ben's Friends is to offer hope, fellowship, and a path forward to anyone who struggles with substance abuse or addiction. By coming together, starting a dialogue, and acknowledging that substance abuse cannot be overcome by isolation and willpower alone, Ben's Friends hopes to write a new chapter in the lives of food and beverage professionals across the country. To order my n/a enamel pin from Mover & Shaker, head to tinyurl.com/4fm6r9v6

Jill is someone, like many of my guests that I met on the internet. Luckily, I got to meet Jill in real life and bask in her energy while we were both at Tales of the Cocktail. In this episode we chat about what it takes to become sober, and what a support system can look like. Jill and her husband decided to remove alcohol from their lives at the same time, and she talks about what it's like to have a co-pilot while making that transition. I loved this conversation. I'm so lucky to share in the change of others as they talk about the people they've become, what's possible now, and what they uncovered. Thanks for sharing, Jill, glad to know you. As a seasoned expert in pretty much every part of the beverage industry: years spent at distributors, suppliers, and even as an owner; Jill Sites still had one more area to taste: Non-Alcoholic. More recently, she has stepped into a National role with Betty Buzz, Blake Lively’s line of “Mix it or Fly Solo” non-alcoholic mixers. While this industry’s lifestyle is known to take its own toll, Jill has found her own path and as of this interview, celebrates more than 300 days of sobriety. Founded in 2016, the mission of Ben's Friends is to offer hope, fellowship, and a path forward to anyone who struggles with substance abuse or addiction. By coming together, starting a dialogue, and acknowledging that substance abuse cannot be overcome by isolation and willpower alone, Ben's Friends hopes to write a new chapter in the lives of food and beverage professionals across the country. To order my n/a enamel pin from Mover & Shaker, head to tinyurl.com/4fm6r9v6

Molly makes delicious n/a drinks in Seattle. With her history in coffee, she finds new and expressive ways of bringing creative drinks to people. It was so nice chatting with her about the importance of finding your own words as you forge your own path. It's fascinating to find similarities in these conversations, but I am equally as interested in the things that make our journeys unique. I enjoy the gentleness that Molly brings to the conversation about sobriety, I liked hearing about the way her partner has been supportive, and the person she's become since making that change over six years ago. I keep discovering the clichés within these talks, but they are clichés for a reason. Whatever we need to hear, however we need to say it until it makes sense to us. Thank you Molly for sharing the light you shine on your own path of sobriety, and for keeping it bright enough for others to see. Molly Flynn is a community organizer and sober home mixologist. She has a passion for giving folx access to non-alcoholic beverage options and believes these options serve as a valuable (and delicious!) tool for anyone choosing to reduce or omit alcohol from their diet. As a queer woman, Molly is particularly interested in supporting the LGBTQIA+ community, which is statistically more vulnerable to addiction and substance abuse. Founded in 2016, the mission of Ben's Friends is to offer hope, fellowship, and a path forward to anyone who struggles with substance abuse or addiction. By coming together, starting a dialogue, and acknowledging that substance abuse cannot be overcome by isolation and willpower alone, Ben's Friends hopes to write a new chapter in the lives of food and beverage professionals across the country. To order my n/a enamel pin from Mover & Shaker, head to tinyurl.com/4fm6r9v6

Dre is passionate about bartending. His work at Clavel in Baltimore brings a deep love and understanding for Mezcal, hospitality, and forward-thinking cocktails. The way he speaks of n/a drinks is one of inclusion and precision. It was exciting to chat about where the industry and the world are at with no proof offerings, how he's changed his mindset since giving up alcohol, and what's next all around. Thanks for your time and your story, Dre. Dre Levon is a New York-born Baltimore-raised bartender. He’s the Bar Director of Clavel Mezcaleria, where he has worked for the past 7 years since its inception. He and his team have been nominated for a pair of James Beard Nominations and are enthusiasts for the good mezcal, Mexican food, and their cultural/agricultural inroads. Founded in 2016, the mission of Ben's Friends is to offer hope, fellowship, and a path forward to anyone who struggles with substance abuse or addiction. By coming together, starting a dialogue, and acknowledging that substance abuse cannot be overcome by isolation and willpower alone, Ben's Friends hopes to write a new chapter in the lives of food and beverage professionals across the country. To order my n/a enamel pin from Mover & Shaker, head to tinyurl.com/4fm6r9v6

I'm lucky to know Dave Conway. We met when we were both working for a distillery, I, a bartender for the attached restaurant, and Dave one of the distillers. We hit it off with our similar sense of humor and quickly created a weekly Instagram show called 'Distilling with Dave!" that included brief bonehead check-ins that were hilarious albeit not helpful to actual distillers. One day in September Dave seemingly disappeared. When he returned he had stories of strokes, a heart attack, and the road to recovery. In this scare he found sobriety, and now we also share that. Check out my conversation with an old pal who went from not wanting to fall asleep for fear of not waking up, to celebrating each morning and being thankful for the day. I love you, Dave. I'm glad you're here. Dave is one of the former distillers at Watershed Distillery.  He is currently working on a degree in Psychology with the goal of helping those who have gone through life-changing events. Founded in 2016, the mission of Ben's Friends is to offer hope, fellowship, and a path forward to anyone who struggles with substance abuse or addiction. By coming together, starting a dialogue, and acknowledging that substance abuse cannot be overcome by isolation and willpower alone, Ben's Friends hopes to write a new chapter in the lives of food and beverage professionals across the country. To order my n/a enamel pin from Mover & Shaker, head to tinyurl.com/4fm6r9v6 Episode segments

Sasha was open as she told me about her decision to leave alcohol behind. Getting to hear about her past, and how she came up as a chef was illuminating, but what really struck me was the way she talked about the future. The way she communicates with staff, the way conversations are changing, and the respect every individual gets along the way. I really appreciate her honesty, and for sharing her story as she navigated early stages, and what it felt like to decide to stop drinking in a pandemic. Chef Sasha Grumman is a Houston based Private Chef and Chef/Owner of her focaccia business, Sasha’s Focaccia. Most recently, she was a contestant on Bravo’s hit TV show, Top Chef Season 18, which filmed in Portland, Oregon. Her style of cooking is California inspired with Italian influences, all while using the best Texas products she can find! Founded in 2016, the mission of Ben's Friends is to offer hope, fellowship, and a path forward to anyone who struggles with substance abuse or addiction. By coming together, starting a dialogue, and acknowledging that substance abuse cannot be overcome by isolation and willpower alone, Ben's Friends hopes to write a new chapter in the lives of food and beverage professionals across the country. To order my n/a enamel pin from Mover & Shaker, head to tinyurl.com/4fm6r9v6

Chatting with Sarah was such a delight. She embodies physical and mental strength learned as she began her sober journey. There's also orchestrated poetry about her. The way she described finding her higher being or the importance of being who she is today is delivered with such honesty. Her story is fascinating to hear, and I really appreciate her taking the time to walk me back to the struggles she faced, and the person she got to become in sobriety. Sarah is an Oregon Pinot Noir winemaker who has been sober since 2/24/2016. She lives with her partner and two German Shepherds. Sarah spends her free time playing semi-pro women’s football, gardening, and hiking. Founded in 2016, the mission of Ben's Friends is to offer hope, fellowship, and a path forward to anyone who struggles with substance abuse or addiction. By coming together, starting a dialogue, and acknowledging that substance abuse cannot be overcome by isolation and willpower alone, Ben's Friends hopes to write a new chapter in the lives of food and beverage professionals across the country. To order my n/a enamel pin from Mover & Shaker, head to tinyurl.com/4fm6r9v6

about the guest: A wild gal turned sober-curious, Fay Behbehani is a London native living in Los Angeles, and a beverage entrepreneur in both the alcoholic and the non-alcoholic space. As former head of marketing for a California-based brain tech company, she discovered her passion for natural stimulants, plant medicine and their therapeutic properties for mental and physical optimization. This was catalyzed during her time as the co-founder of Uncle Ed’s Damn Good Vodka where she became sober-curious in 2018 on a meditation retreat in Northern California and realized that drinking culture needed a radical shift. Harnessing her breadth of experience, whilst indulging in her passion for all things beverage, wellness and plant medicine, she founded bonbuz, setting out to revive the spirits industry and what it means to drink together in the modern age. about the brand: from the first sip to the morning after - bonbuz brings you a deep sense of resonating nostalgia - that stress-free heart flutter you had before adult-xiety took over. where to get it: bonbuz.com what I slurped: I tried both the OG and the Slowburn! more info: bonbuz is a truly unique slurping experience with both bottles. They mix really well, and promote an exploratory fun personality in their branding and taste. Be on the lookout for what is coming down the pipeline from them!

about the guest: Jason founded Casamara Club back in 2018, because he was tired of non-alcoholic drinks that tasted like an afterthought. He grew up in New England, spent his 20s in New York City, and now lives in Detroit. about the brand: The project started in my kitchen, building up a collection of dozens of homemade botanical extracts; learning to blend and make bitters and amaro; and eventually creating the recipes for our original lineup of leisure sodas to remind me of Italian vacations and leisurely happy hours. Those kitchen recipes are the same recipes you can drink today. where to get it: https://www.casamaraclub.com/ what I slurped: I've tried the core four (alta, onda, como, sera) and recently tried the news cans (isla, and flora) They all have a special place and time for, and can often be found in my fridge! more info: I was a huge fan of bitter flavors when I was drinking, and was hard pressed to find them once I removed alcohol from my life. Casamara Club excited my palate and offerings from first sip!

about the guest: Alex developed a specialty in Hospitality, Food & Beverage - advising many of the UK’s leading brands. It was here - while working on a project for one of the UK’s largest bar chains - that he discovered the vast shortcomings in the mixer category and came up with the idea for AVEC. Growing up in the UK, but of Australian & Canadian heritage - he has always been obsessed with flavor. Always mobile and exploring new foods and cultures - Alex loves to cook and will talk excitedly about food and ingredients - especially those in AVEC. about the brand: Bored with the uninspired mixers they'd been using in their cocktails, Denetrias 'Dee' Charlemagne and Alex Doman decided to switch things up. A Bronx native, Harvard alum and former Ad Executive, the only mixology Dee had known was in the kitchen of her Harlem apartment. A former F&B strategy consultant, UK native Alex Doman was working for some of the UKs leading hospitality chains bored with the monotony of Gin + Tonics at any bar he frequented. After a lot of trial and error, the two brewed up something impressive: AVEC, mixers that are made with 80-90% less sugar, flavored with real juice and botanical extracts rather than so-called "natural flavors," and are just as tasty with alcohol as they are solo - in flavors like Jalapeño & Blood Orange, Hibiscus & Pomegranate, and Yuzu & Lime. where to get it: https://avecdrinks.com/ what I slurped: I loved the Hibiscus & Pomegranate, and the Grapefruit & Pomelo! more info: These drank really well on their own over ice with some citrus in the glass, and also added a great pop of flavor and effervescence to some n/a drinks I made for some friends!

Madison sent me a message on instagram following an article I was featured in on TheKitchn in January of 2020. That article was my first time speaking publicly about my journey with sobriety, so it felt strange that my story would resonate with someone. It’s been a privilege to ride along via social media on Madison’s journey as she’s such an inspiring voice and advocate for herself. I can’t thank you enough for opening up and sharing your story, and I’m excited to see what’s to come for you. After exiting the bar/service industry, Madison has reinvented herself professionally and otherwise. A creative at heart, she's working as an Account Executive at a Creative Agency, spending her free time writing & recording music, reconnecting with personal passions, and finding her purpose. Founded in 2016, the mission of Ben's Friends is to offer hope, fellowship, and a path forward to anyone who struggles with substance abuse or addiction. By coming together, starting a dialogue, and acknowledging that substance abuse cannot be overcome by isolation and willpower alone, Ben's Friends hopes to write a new chapter in the lives of food and beverage professionals across the country. To order my n/a enamel pin from Mover & Shaker, head to tinyurl.com/4fm6r9v6 The aforementioned kitchn article. https://www.thekitchn.com/no-drinking-alcohol-review-my-healthy-22978519

My chat with Andrew reveals what is possible in a kitchen with communication and understanding. Brought up through the old school kitchens, Andrew now leads a staff through positivity and creating a work environment people are excited to arrive to. Andrew recently celebrated 5 years sober, a milestone he's able to celebrate in Asheville, a place he calls home. I really appreciate him taking the time to chat with me about where he was when he decided to make the change, and the person he gets to be each day. Andrew McLeod is the Executive Chef at Avenue M in Asheville NC. The laid back approach to an elevated neighborhood restaurant is due to his extensive experience throughout some of the most exciting food markets in the U.S. He credits Joshua Skenes (Saison, Angler) Michael Tusk (Quince, Cotogna, Verjus), and Sean Brock (Joyland, Audrey, The Continental) as his mentors. He’s passionate about creating a fun, positive, and supportive kitchen culture as much as he’s passionate about good food. Founded in 2016, the mission of Ben's Friends is to offer hope, fellowship, and a path forward to anyone who struggles with substance abuse or addiction. By coming together, starting a dialogue, and acknowledging that substance abuse cannot be overcome by isolation and willpower alone, Ben's Friends hopes to write a new chapter in the lives of food and beverage professionals across the country. To order my n/a enamel pin from Mover & Shaker, head to tinyurl.com/4fm6r9v6

Chatting with Hope was a splash of effervescence. She brings such positivity to what is possible in a life without alcohol. Like me, she doesn't preach that everyone must become sober to enjoy life to the fullest, but that you should at least be looking at your relationship with alcohol. Hope lives in NYC and it was exciting to hear about the ways that she enjoys her city, and how she gets to show up in it. After becoming alcohol-free, Hope began doing open-mic stand-up comedy, that sentence was enough to give me chills when I heard it in this episode. If you've never performed stand-up comedy, it's an activity that many people will tell you can only be performed with some 'Liquid Courage.' It's so good to hear that Hope enjoys it, and is doing it authentically. Hope Woodard is a 25-year-old social media strategist and content creator based in Brooklyn, NY. When not working, she loves riding her bike around the city, practicing her comedy chops at an open mic, and taking walks around McCarren Park. She's been alcohol free since October 10, 2021, and hopes to continue down this path so that she can keep learning more about herself, experiencing life at full capacity, and investing in those around her with full authenticity. Founded in 2016, the mission of Ben's Friends is to offer hope, fellowship, and a path forward to anyone who struggles with substance abuse or addiction. By coming together, starting a dialogue, and acknowledging that substance abuse cannot be overcome by isolation and willpower alone, Ben's Friends hopes to write a new chapter in the lives of food and beverage professionals across the country. To order my n/a enamel pin from Mover & Shaker, head to tinyurl.com/4fm6r9v6

I was excited to chat with Josh because of all the buzz I've seen around him and his cafe in San Francisco. His reviews of n/a drinks on his youtube page brings a fresh voice, and a seasoned palate to some of the exciting items coming down the pipeline. He was a hoot to talk to when we chatted about the enrichment our lives possess in a life free of alcohol, and he was an inspiration in hearing about what is possible in the n/a drink space. This episode has great tips and talking points for those looking for what to drink now that they are not drinking, or how to start your journey in creating space on your menu for n/a drinks. Thanks for the time, Josh, excited to see what you do next. Check him out on Instagram: @joshthenonalcoholic @ocean.beach.cafe or on his youtube page: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCN-9g-8Tb-iD74qHtT-0nug Founded in 2016, the mission of Ben's Friends is to offer hope, fellowship, and a path forward to anyone who struggles with substance abuse or addiction. By coming together, starting a dialogue, and acknowledging that substance abuse cannot be overcome by isolation and willpower alone, Ben's Friends hopes to write a new chapter in the lives of food and beverage professionals across the country. To order my n/a enamel pin from Mover & Shaker, head to tinyurl.com/4fm6r9v6

I recently learned of Ashley Mac through an interview I read on https://drinkbaijiu.com/ where she spoke with such excitement about the category and the industry that it was inspiring to see someone thriving in the industry while sober. During our conversation I was floored to hear so many parts of my own story being told back to me. Starting life in the industry at 15 in a corporate restaurant, stopping drinking at 29, and the ways we're able to truly live life now that we're sober. I really can't thank her enough for sharing her story here, and I'm in awe of the growth she's able to experience. I'm so happy for you, Ashley. Ashley Mac or Amac is a Baltimore-based bartender. As the Bar Manager and AGM of NiHao, a modern, but traditional Chinese restaurant, Mac spends her time learning about and creating her Baijiu-centered bar program. Mac also prides herself with well thought out and cared for spirit-free options at her bar, as she is a sober bartender. Amac is also a Program Director of HEARD Baltimore, a non-profit organization for hospitality workers who are struggling with mental health or sobriety, and helps run HEARD Online, a weekly online mental health check-in for industry workers Monday nights via Zoom.  For more information check out iheardyou.org Founded in 2016, the mission of Ben's Friends is to offer hope, fellowship, and a path forward to anyone who struggles with substance abuse or addiction. By coming together, starting a dialogue, and acknowledging that substance abuse cannot be overcome by isolation and willpower alone, Ben's Friends hopes to write a new chapter in the lives of food and beverage professionals across the country. To order my n/a enamel pin from Mover & Shaker, head to tinyurl.com/4fm6r9v6

I had seen the label for Slow Luck begin showing up in feeds from some bartender friends but didn't know much about this new n/a spirit launched in Austin. I was excited to chat with owner Tacy Rowland to understand more about how this no-proof product borne of Austin with a bartender's flavor profile came to be. It's always exciting to see new products join the already delicious and inventive n/a space, and I can't wait to see what Slow Luck does next. Tacy Rowland has been a part of the Austin bar community since 2009. Inspired by the talented bar and restaurant community-based in Austin, she fell in love with the world of bartending and hasn’t looked back since. She has been awarded Austin’s Best Cocktail Bartender, traveled nationally and internationally representing her community in various cocktail competitions, was the winner of Speed Rack Denver, and has been mentioned in ​Forbes​, ​StarChefs​, ​Imbibe​, Southwest Airlines Magazine​, ​Beverage Media Group,​ and ​GQ​ in addition to local publications. Rowland served as the General Manager of the lauded speakeasy Midnight Cowboy in Austin from 2016-2018, and then as the Creative Bar Director for Alamo Drafthouse. While being furloughed due to Covid-19, Rowland and fellow bartender Sam Abdelfattah saw opportunities in the non-alcoholic beverage space and founded Slow Luck. Partnering with a local distiller, Mike Groener, after months of distilling, experimenting, and blending, Slow Luck became a reality. Slow Luck is Austin’s first distilled non-alcoholic spirit alternative. With notes of citrus, ginger, coriander, and a slightly spicy finish of Texas chilies, Slow Luck is easily substituted 1:1 for any clear spirit in traditional cocktails and provides the perfect starting palate for new cocktail creations. Follow them on Instagram @slowluckbev to see the latest, or check out their website https://slowluckbev.com/ Founded in 2016, the mission of Ben's Friends is to offer hope, fellowship, and a path forward to anyone who struggles with substance abuse or addiction. By coming together, starting a dialogue, and acknowledging that substance abuse cannot be overcome by isolation and willpower alone, Ben's Friends hopes to write a new chapter in the lives of food and beverage professionals across the country. To order my n/a enamel pin from Mover & Shaker, head to tinyurl.com/4fm6r9v6

I was thrilled to chat with JdB after the monumental years he had with 2020 and 2021. More than that, I've always found him to have such an inclusive outlook on the industry, and a fascination with that his voice brings to the overall conversation. Interviewing someone with the number of accolades his bio holds is always intimidating, but his warmth, grace, and hospitality made for a great conversation. In this episode, I chat with JdB about his decision to not drink alcohol in 2020, why he chose to create Proteau, and the future on the n/a space. John deBary is a 10-plus year veteran of New York City’s bar and hospitality industry, starting out as a bartender at PDT before going on to become the Momofuku restaurant group’s first corporate bar director. In 2018 he left Momofuku to write a cocktail book, Drink What You Want, founded Proteau, a zero-proof botanical drinks company, as well as co-founded Restaurant Workers’ Community Foundation, a nonprofit dedicated to improving quality of life for laborers in the hospitality industry. He’s also Food52’s first resident drinks expert where he hosts a monthly YouTube show.  As a freelance journalist, he has bylines in Bon Appetit, Thrillist, GQ, Food & Wine, and PUNCH, and he occasionally moonlights as a drinks and hospitality consultant for private and corporate clients. Founded in 2016, the mission of Ben's Friends is to offer hope, fellowship, and a path forward to anyone who struggles with substance abuse or addiction. By coming together, starting a dialogue, and acknowledging that substance abuse cannot be overcome by isolation and willpower alone, Ben's Friends hopes to write a new chapter in the lives of food and beverage professionals across the country. To order my n/a enamel pin from Mover & Shaker, head to tinyurl.com/4fm6r9v6

Like all good discoveries, I found Al's NA Beer on Instagram. The logo, the white can, it all beckoned to be drank in a dive bar. Learning more about the founder Alban, a European who worked in music and nightlife I discovered our passion for the dive bar and the feeling of finding quiet and resolve in yourself. Alban's alcohol-free lifestyle began similarly to mine, it was a pause met with an inventory of the self and how living life without it would ultimately be better in every way except for maybe going to bed earlier. I was happy to learn that Alban is also a runner, and I look forward to the day that we can run in Central Park, and crack an Al's after. Alban spent almost 20 years working in the Arts & Music industries in London and New York. It included a stint as Art Ambassador for Absolut Vodka, one of the world's largest spirit companies. A few years ago, he decided to see what life could be without drinking and he hasn't looked back. This led him to launch AL's; a classic American non-alcoholic craft beer to enjoy all of life's social and celebratory moments without alcohol. Founded in 2016, the mission of Ben's Friends is to offer hope, fellowship, and a path forward to anyone who struggles with substance abuse or addiction. By coming together, starting a dialogue, and acknowledging that substance abuse cannot be overcome by isolation and willpower alone, Ben's Friends hopes to write a new chapter in the lives of food and beverage professionals across the country. To order my n/a enamel pin from Mover & Shaker, head to tinyurl.com/4fm6r9v6

My friend Ru sent me a message that said "Hey dude. I don't know this guy personally but he's THE pizza guy on the beach in Queens" about Sean so I was immediately intrigued. I sent a message soon after and immediately connected with Sean's positivity. Join us for this uplifting chat about sobriety within the industry, how being kind to yourself will lead to kindness elsewhere, and find out what Sean's favorite slice and sip combo is. Born and raised in Rockaway Beach, NY Sean Aiken has recently returned home with his wife and their young child, bringing a passion for creating pizza and a desire to help build community. Follow him on Instagram @seanypizza or head to www.seanyslices.com Founded in 2016, the mission of Ben's Friends is to offer hope, fellowship, and a path forward to anyone who struggles with substance abuse or addiction. By coming together, starting a dialogue, and acknowledging that substance abuse cannot be overcome by isolation and willpower alone, Ben's Friends hopes to write a new chapter in the lives of food and beverage professionals across the country. To order my n/a enamel pin from Mover & Shaker, head to tinyurl.com/4fm6r9v6

I spent a couple of years on the Columbus comedy circuit as a stand-up before I discovered my love for performing video and sketch comedy (which find their way into my life in small doses these days.) While in this scene I learned of Sumukh. His mild-mannered delivery drew me in, and he quickly became one of my local favorites. He always carried an air of distinction and charm; he struck me as the level-headed deeper thinking comedian in a room full of cheap beer-pounding knuckleheads. Since leaving comedy I've followed along with Sumukh's journey on social media where I read his essays on his sobriety and the changes that could be made to the comedy scene. Sumukh takes comedy seriously which is why he's been good at it for so long. While I'm no longer in the back hall during an open mic cracking jokes with Sumukh I'm lucky to have him in running, sobriety, and light-hearted conversation. Thank you, Sumukh! Sumukh Torgalkar is a stand-up comedian who resides in the mountains of Northern Colorado after having lived in Columbus and Los Angeles. He performs anywhere from independent stages to comedy clubs to colleges to corporate events. Tracks from his album are played regularly on SiriusXM's Laugh USA and subscribe to his YouTube channel (youtube.com/SumukhTorgalkar) to help grow his mild popularity. Founded in 2016, the mission of Ben's Friends is to offer hope, fellowship, and a path forward to anyone who struggles with substance abuse or addiction. By coming together, starting a dialogue, and acknowledging that substance abuse cannot be overcome by isolation and willpower alone, Ben's Friends hopes to write a new chapter in the lives of food and beverage professionals across the country. To order my n/a enamel pin from Mover & Shaker, head to tinyurl.com/4fm6r9v6

I was so excited to learn of Becca and to hear more about what she was doing in the n/a distilling world. She has such a compelling story, and an energy for the future that I found inviting and intriguing. Becca brought an intentionality toward bartender communication efforts to the conversation that was fascinating and respectful toward those pouring and those enjoying. In this conversation we chat about Becca's own journey with sobriety, the changes she'd like to see made in the way we order n/a drinks, and what is in her future through distilling and product development. Thanks for your time, energy, and eye on positive change, Becca! Becca grew up on a farm in rural Kentucky, then moved to New York where she spent the first 10 years of her career in strategy consulting. Two years ago, she left her job to create better and more inclusive options for individuals who don't drink alcohol (always or occasionally). When not working on ALT Distilling, Becca is making art, taking on overly ambitious home projects, or hanging out with her parti-poodle, Charlie. Follow along on Instagram @nkdldy Founded in 2016, the mission of Ben's Friends is to offer hope, fellowship, and a path forward to anyone who struggles with substance abuse or addiction. By coming together, starting a dialogue, and acknowledging that substance abuse cannot be overcome by isolation and willpower alone, Ben's Friends hopes to write a new chapter in the lives of food and beverage professionals across the country. To order my n/a enamel pin from Mover & Shaker, head to tinyurl.com/4fm6r9v6

Nick entered my life through marriage. He became my cousin through that, but through the changes we were both applying to our lives he became my brother. Nick is a symbol of strength both mentally and physically for myself, for others, and for his family. I'm thrilled that he was able to take the time to tell his story and to unravel some of the tools he uses to set himself up for success. He strives to be a little bit better each day, and his enthusiasm for crushing goals makes me want to be better every time I see what he's doing. Follow his story and workouts on Instagram @thenickmundy Nick Mundy is from Cincinnati, OH— 31, married, and has three sons.  He has an insatiable appetite for challenging himself and is currently on a vulnerable journey of holistic self improvement.  Professionally, he works for a Fortune 500 company in a leadership position.  His tolerance for adversity is elite as he is a survivor of Autoimmune Disease, Heart Disease, Cancer, and Addiction/Alcoholism.  Nick believes with the right mindset and hard work, anything you dream of can be accomplished. Founded in 2016, the mission of Ben's Friends is to offer hope, fellowship, and a path forward to anyone who struggles with substance abuse or addiction. By coming together, starting a dialogue, and acknowledging that substance abuse cannot be overcome by isolation and willpower alone, Ben's Friends hopes to write a new chapter in the lives of food and beverage professionals across the country. To order my n/a enamel pin from Mover & Shaker, head to tinyurl.com/4fm6r9v6

I learned of Yellowbird Foodshed at the beginning of lockdown when I went from cooking maybe twice a week to cooking 2-3 times a day. Their local features and respect they show toward Ohio farmers was intriguing enough to bring me in, and the quality and focus on food changed the way I eat. When I learned of the owner, Benji, his sobriety story and focus on wellness was something that really resonated with me. His outlook on self-improvement was one of the conversations that reignited my own passions in taking care of myself. I hope you find this chat as invigorating as I did. Benji Ballmer founded Yellowbird Foodshed in 2013 and has been fighting to decentralize the food system ever since. He's the father of 4, husband of 1, and is addicted to self-improvement. Right now he lives by 2 quotes... 1.  "Let them that see the need, consider themselves the ones called to meet that need." and 2.  "The cave you fear to enter, holds the treasure you seek." Founded in 2016, the mission of Ben's Friends is to offer hope, fellowship, and a path forward to anyone who struggles with substance abuse or addiction. By coming together, starting a dialogue, and acknowledging that substance abuse cannot be overcome by isolation and willpower alone, Ben's Friends hopes to write a new chapter in the lives of food and beverage professionals across the country. To order my n/a enamel pin from Mover & Shaker, head to tinyurl.com/4fm6r9v6

I learned of Jenn through our mutual friend and previous No Proof guest Heidi B. Since following her on social media, and even participating in her weekly Happier Hour, I learned of one of the strongest people I've ever met. In this episode, we chat about coaching, physical fitness, and how you can't fully achieve your goals unless you stop to listen to yourself.  Jenn Linck, owner of SoberFIT Wellness, LLC, is a certified personal trainer, healthy habit coach, and nutrition strategist who made the life-changing decision to live alcohol-free in January 2020.  Jenn believes strongly that alcohol does not belong in fitness and that we can have just as much, if not more, fun and freedom when we decide to ditch the drinks. To learn more about Jenn, check out here website https://soberfitwellness.com/ Founded in 2016, the mission of Ben's Friends is to offer hope, fellowship, and a path forward to anyone who struggles with substance abuse or addiction. By coming together, starting a dialogue, and acknowledging that substance abuse cannot be overcome by isolation and willpower alone, Ben's Friends hopes to write a new chapter in the lives of food and beverage professionals across the country. to order my n/a enamel pin from Mover & Shaker, head to tinyurl.com/4fm6r9v6

For the twentieth episode of No Proof, I am joined by Nick Hogan and Michael Toscano to chat about brand work. A commitment and position within the restaurant industry that has, in my experience, drawn the most jeers. I've heard more often than not that being a face of a brand cannot be done as a sober person. Nick and Michael are shining examples that it is possible, and it can be done well. Nick represents Angel's Envy, and until recently, Michael represented Woodford Reserve. In this episode, you'll hear about how their mindsets change in their roles as they became sober, how the companies they represented supported them, and the advice they have for those who are curious. Founded in 2016, the mission of Ben's Friends is to offer hope, fellowship, and a path forward to anyone who struggles with substance abuse or addiction. By coming together, starting a dialogue, and acknowledging that substance abuse cannot be overcome by isolation and willpower alone, Ben's Friends hopes to write a new chapter in the lives of food and beverage professionals across the country. to order my n/a enamel pin from Mover & Shaker, head to tinyurl.com/4fm6r9v6

I have been lucky enough to call Megan Leigh Barnard a friend for over a decade now. She's a talented photographer who has captured many transitions/characters/ and times in my life. When I received the text that she was considering getting sober I couldn't reply fast enough. This is a caring, special, and wonderful conversation between two friends as I learn what it took for her to make the decision to stop being and what she's discovered along the way. Thank you for your time, your passion, and your story Megan Leigh. Megan Leigh Barnard is a Queer, nature-loving, Lifestyle Portrait Photographer. Photographing people, exploring the natural world and finding ways to connect to her higher self are amongst her biggest passions. She is also the Co-Founder of Creative Babes, which exists to explore the human experience through intimate, themed quarterly events. Founded in 2016, the mission of Ben's Friends is to offer hope, fellowship, and a path forward to anyone who struggles with substance abuse or addiction. By coming together, starting a dialogue, and acknowledging that substance abuse cannot be overcome by isolation and willpower alone, Ben's Friends hopes to write a new chapter in the lives of food and beverage professionals across the country. to order my n/a enamel pin from Mover & Shaker, head to tinyurl.com/4fm6r9v6

My chat with Heidi was a thrilling look into how sobriety is taken into account in a relationship. We chat about what it takes to focus on yourself to become Relationship Ready. "Relationship Ready is a candid and unabashedly human portrayal of my journey from broken to better and in it, I provide an outline for other women to embark on their own journeys.  It’s a must-read for any woman out there who wants more." -Heidi Your path of sobriety will often include others, and talking to people like Heidi I learn the importance of staying true to self and fostering the best possible you that gets to shine within your relationships. Founded in 2016, the mission of Ben's Friends is to offer hope, fellowship, and a path forward to anyone who struggles with substance abuse or addiction. By coming together, starting a dialogue, and acknowledging that substance abuse cannot be overcome by isolation and willpower alone, Ben's Friends hopes to write a new chapter in the lives of food and beverage professionals across the country. to order my n/a enamel pin from Mover & Shaker, head to tinyurl.com/4fm6r9v6 For more info on the book/the podcast/private coaching & more head to heidibcoaching.com

Chatting with Hailey was a great reminder of what we get to keep when we give up alcohol. We chatted about the worrisome moments of wondering what you're going to lose when you quit drinking, and how we flipped the script to be about what we get to keep. Hailey talks about being a party girl at heart, and her closet full of costume, and how none of that high energy, fun, igniting personality was tied to alcohol. Hailey is fun all on her own and gets to be every day. Thank you for the reminder Hailey, that we get to be who we really are, and work on that best version of ourselves daily when we give up alcohol. Life is something we get to do. Founded in 2016, the mission of Ben's Friends is to offer hope, fellowship, and a path forward to anyone who struggles with substance abuse or addiction. By coming together, starting a dialogue, and acknowledging that substance abuse cannot be overcome by isolation and willpower alone, Ben's Friends hopes to write a new chapter in the lives of food and beverage professionals across the country. to order my n/a enamel pin from Mover & Shaker, head to tinyurl.com/4fm6r9v6

My chat with Kate(@cascadiacowgirl)was rich and fulfilling. Her career in the industry has spanned many roles pathways and cities. Her lifestyle changed from NYC to Seattle and in this conversation, we talk about those changes that impacted her life, and the decisions she made to get to where she is now. It was so nice to hear of the intention of place, and presence that she places herself in. Over and over I find in these conversations that those that are placed in a hospitality role bring care and kindness to others, and are sometimes late to do the same for themselves (myself included.) It is never too late to bring the same energy and caring demeanor that you reserve for others into your own space. Kate, thank you for sharing your time and your story. Founded in 2016, the mission of Ben's Friends is to offer hope, fellowship, and a path forward to anyone who struggles with substance abuse or addiction. By coming together, starting a dialogue, and acknowledging that substance abuse cannot be overcome by isolation and willpower alone, Ben's Friends hopes to write a new chapter in the lives of food and beverage professionals across the country. to order my n/a enamel pin from Mover & Shaker, head to tinyurl.com/4fm6r9v6

Chatting with Bjorn was as refreshing and effervescent as seeing the drinks he posts on his Instagram. (@kingbjornce) A common theme I come across in these conversations is the pause that those in the industry face when they make the decision to become sober in hospitality. Learning a little bit more about the mindset, and the pathway of thinking about what it means to turn and face the industry instead of cutting and running further amplifies the importance of being a beacon for those having similar feelings. Seeing those in the industry who were sober at the time when I needed it made me twist my feet, stick it out, and learn ways to give back to hopefully contribute to a growing and healthy hospitality industry. Founded in 2016, the mission of Ben's Friends is to offer hope, fellowship, and a path forward to anyone who struggles with substance abuse or addiction. By coming together, starting a dialogue, and acknowledging that substance abuse cannot be overcome by isolation and willpower alone, Ben's Friends hopes to write a new chapter in the lives of food and beverage professionals across the country. to order my n/a enamel pin from Mover & Shaker, head to tinyurl.com/4fm6r9v6

I was excited to chat with Jim because his excitement and knowledge of wine were used to set the discipline in himself for becoming sober. As the owner of Ça Va in Kansas City, Jim is surrounded by wine yet has found a way to continue sharing in his passion without partaking. Founded in 2016, the mission of Ben's Friends is to offer hope, fellowship, and a path forward to anyone who struggles with substance abuse or addiction. By coming together, starting a dialogue, and acknowledging that substance abuse cannot be overcome by isolation and willpower alone, Ben's Friends hopes to write a new chapter in the lives of food and beverage professionals across the country. to order my n/a enamel pin from Mover & Shaker, head to tinyurl.com/4fm6r9v6

Chef Philip Speer has a background of awards, dishes, and accolades that span his lengthy tenure in the kitchen, but it is what he does in the streets of Austin, TX that really inspires me. The Comedor Run Club named after his restaurant is reinventing the way the industry can look at time spent together, the post-shift, and the pre-shift. Pumping out the miles has brought his team closer together and even attracts the attention of runners both in and out of the industry from around the country. To learn more, check out their website or follow them on Instagram. @comedorrunclub https://comedorrunclub.com/ to order my n/a enamel pin from Mover & Shaker, head to tinyurl.com/4fm6r9v6

I've known Andy Smith for some time due to us both working in restaurants in Columbus. In the time that I've gotten to know Andy, I've discovered how lucky we are to have him in our city. In this frank, heavy, curse-ridden conversation we chat about working programs, going it alone, and how to access help along the way. Andy founded the Columbus chapter of Ben's Friends and is always available. https://www.bensfriendshope.com andy@sobrietyshaken.com

I came across an article written by Lucie via Tracksmith x METER about her track to sobriety and the importance of running. I was quickly inspired by the strength applied to running, the mental toughness it takes to navigate the past self while running with the present, and the compassion she displayed for herself. In this episode, Lucie and I chat about the difference between running to your future self and running away from the old self. I appreciate Lucie sharing her story with me, and I hope all of you enjoy it as much as I did. I've included the mentioned article for further reading. https://journal.tracksmith.com/sober-in-the-city

Michael Toscano was my first guest. Since our first recording, I've learned a lot more about putting together a podcast, and the two of us have learned a lot more about our sobriety. Join me as we catch each other up on our growth, as well as our stumbling blocks. Thanks for spending time with me Michael, looking forward to the next time. Reach out to Michael via Instagram @themichaeltoscano

In this episode, I have a conversation with Rachel DelRocco Terrazas, who has just recently celebrated one year of sobriety. Through her story I was able to relive some of my more difficult moments as we chat about what outgrowing your old self can feel like. I thank Rachel for spending time with me to tell her story and congratulate her just the same.

I'm joined in this episode by Alex Langille by way of the U.K. who I met after he had listened to my conversation with Jack McGarry. It was a pleasure chatting with Alex who is currently re-embarking on a journey of obtaining his Master's in Clinical Psychology, reading, and running in the English countryside. This conversation was a first for No Proof as after extensive meditations, and the use of therapy; Alex has been able to integrate alcohol back into his lifestyle with intention. It is my goal to have conversations with individuals from every corner of the world of sobriety and to not speak in absolutes. I thank Alex for sharing his story, and for adding a new perspective to the journey that is No Proof. Books mentioned in this episode: 1) Susan Cain - Quiet - The Power of Introverts In A World That Can’t Stop Talking. 2) Brene Brown - Daring Greatly 3) Jordan Peterson - 12 Rule for Life - An Anecdote to Chaos

In this episode, I'm joined by Jack McGarry from his bar the Dead Rabbit in New York City. As an avid runner himself, we chat about how running helped to develop discipline and a learning mind. Jack chats about his story of sobriety and recovery as we both look back on the clarity we've gained during our journey. Mentioned in this episode is Atomic Habits by James Clear and I Swear I'll Make It Up To You by Mishka Shubaly.

For this episode, I had a conversation with Laura Lashley, the National Education Manager for Seedlip. Seedlip was the first non-alcoholic distillate I found, and I've been enjoying it ever since! We chat about Dry January, how to continue those efforts beyond the month, and the state of the restaurant industry as far as consumption is concerned. For recipes, and up to date happenings with the seedlip brand make sure to follow Laura, and the brand accounts on Instagram. Laura: @liquid_lash Seedlip North America: @seedlip_na Seedlip UK: @seedlipdrinks

As part of a special Mindfulness Matters episode presented by Perrier, I have a chat with my friend Brandon Bir who is the director of sustainability for Crimson Cup here in Columbus, Oh. We talk about sobriety, the importance of coffee to a community, and options for Dry January.

After completing her 300hr Yoga Teacher Training, I chat with Ashley about the importance of the self, focusing on your breath, and how discovering yourself can lead to many more enlightening revelations. This episode focuses on the physicality of sobriety, and what moving your body and listening to yourself can uncover.

In this episode, I have a fun and lively conversation with Nick and Shannon of Mover & Shaker. Their pins, shirts, and barware can be found wherever there's a bartender making delicious drinks. The two of them have navigated bar management, brand ambassadorship, and the day to day dealings of owning a business all while sober, listen along to hear their story.

In this episode, I share a phone call with Josh Harris of San Francisco. We discuss his path of sobriety, the leader of the industry he's become since then, and his advice for someone looking to take that first step. Josh is a titan of the industry, and it was my privilege to speak with him.

In this episode, I share a phone call with Michael Toscano, a husband, and brand ambassador who is now 14 months sober. We talk about our experiences in the industry, and how the fast paced world behind the bar offers little chances to stop and reflect.